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"content": "Donald Trump suffers shock poll in Florida",
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"content": "\" Voters prefer presidential candidates who don't get shot\"...",
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"content": "You see, Trump can't pull a Reagan and win due to nearly being assassinated, because in order to pull a Reagan, you need to actually be hit and almost die",
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"content": "The reality is that the assassination attempt didn’t actually help Reagan that much either.",
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"content": "True, because it happened in 1981, two months after his inauguration, so it was almost four years until the next presidential election.",
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"content": "He did get a huge bump in 1981, but my understanding is that his polling in 1984 was actually not that great (the economic boom hadn't really taken of yet), although he did eventually win and win big in November.\n\n \nGetting a bump in the polls doesn't always guarantee victory anyway. His Vice President George H.W. Bush went on to win the election in 1988. He got a MASSIVE bump after the Gulf War inn 1991, yet lost the election in 1992 due to the recession and Perot's 3rd party candidacy.",
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"content": "I never understood the \"muh turd party\" libs when Perot came *that* close to being second.\n\nI wish Dems were as daring and principled as pre-Iraq reps, because I think Ajamu would get equally close if that was the case. Maybe he has a true shot now that \"the mystique\" of Israel being \"the most moral army\" is finally broken",
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"content": ">... Perot came that close to being second.\n\n\nRoss Perot actually won second place in the state of Maine for 1992.",
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"content": "\"Wait muh talking point!\"",
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"content": "Last week a guy I know was talking about how he doesn't like Trump but prefers him to Biden because Biden is just too senile to run the country. He said \"I would support basically anyone else over Trump.\"\n\nShockingly, he now says that he doesn't like Harris and still supports Trump.",
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"content": "That guy liked Trump buy doesn't want to deal with the baggage of being a Trump supporter. \n\nTbh, most of us do the same thing with Vaush.",
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"content": "Tbh if trump’s people told me that if I didn’t become openly MAGA they’d tell my loved ones I post on the vaush subreddit, I’d put the red hat on.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "i haven’t watched it in years but I remember fondly the time I did as a kid but it does have some political messaging and some clips are shared by chuds online but i wouldn’t say that the show is by any means conservative in my opinion , the basic politics of the show is basically “everyone is dumb , give up” but I’m curious if maybe I’m losing some nuance , it’s just a silly discussion by the end of the day , I don’t really care what a silly cartoon blorbo has to say about politics but I wanna hear what other people have to say ",
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"content": "Extremely pro lgbetc and anti racist. But also willing to make a movie length episode about Disney and other studios using \"inclusivity\" as an excuse to defend shitty movies and TV and name their only black character Token.\n\n\nI mean they made an entire episode based on preexisting yaoi fan art that was really about hypocrisy amongst liberals and adults in general.\n\n\nReally their over arching ideological point of view seems to me to be \"anti hypocrisy\" and anti stupid. They are very realistic and seem to be anti tribalist.\n\n\n\nAlso everyone is dumb and lazy rather than everyone is evil, but we should keep trying anyway is closer to a message they seem to have.",
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"content": "Pro LGBT? I mean maybe pro gay but I can think of at least 2 episodes that are pretty unambiguously transphobic.",
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"content": "At the beginning definitely wether it was from simply sophomoric humor or genuine transphobia or ignorance it doesnt matter. The dolphin episode for example. But they took over a year off from mentioning Trans anything and that culminated with their Cissies episode which came down very very very pro trans. But I have heard criticism about the episode that it was more about \"this is confusing for children\" rather than about providing a character confused kids can look up to.\n\n\nSome say that the character Heather Swanson in a later episode was problematic but was really about people abusing the system. The character chose to self identify as a woman to win a women's competition.",
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"content": "Eh even after garrisons transition there are a bunch of moments where garrisons \"I am a woman\" talk is meant to generate eyerolls. Take the \"lesbos\" episode for example where garrison defends a lesbian bar from Persians or the \"I'm not gay, I'm a woman\" moment.",
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"content": "The garrison transition cycle ended quite a while ago. I think the Cissies episode happened in 2019.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Electoral College Polling predictions",
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"content": "When Biden wins again, let’s just say we’re gonna be dodging a bullet when that happens",
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"content": "Dems will hate me cause I'll be spending the following four years screaming Whitmer's name. Get her out there in Feb 2025 and start giving her an opportunity to shine - and work out the kinks in her style and presentation on the national stage.",
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"content": "Really, Whitmer? You're not going to wait and see if a progressive rises up for 2028? Like, you know, what Sanders did in 2015?\n\nCan someone explain to me what's wrong with this sub, do people just come here and never watch Vaush??",
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"content": "Whitmer feels like an establishment politician, and she kind of is, but she's ALMOST progressive, in terms of the policy outcomes she's probably more progressive. She's fairly protectionist, like the parks systems and views them as economic engines, wants to invest in education (Snyder before her cut budgets by 15%, so she's rebuilding a system that's been defaced for 8 years), wants to invest in transit infrastructure and I think she likes rail but knows there aren't enough urbanists to make it policy. You should look into her before you say she's a milktoast lib like hillary. Hillary was awful, god awful, Michigan remembers NAFTA and the dem's absolutely F'ed up monumentally pushing a Clinton with a new international trade deal. Whitmer as the governor of MI is not going to be like the Clintons and Obama, I expect her to be just a little to the left of Biden with 10x the energy, and being the first woman president would help her mobilize female voters, which I expect to give her more than 1% boost in public opinion for pretty much all policy proposals. She's the perfect candidate if she gets some foreign policy experience.",
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"content": ">You should look into her before you say she's a milktoast lib like hillary\n\nI listened to her speeches and she sounds just like her lol, boring and full of platitudes, like a mix of Hillary and Buttigieg. Maybe if she switches speechwriters, and there's no progressive alternative come 2028, I would consider supporting her.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "There's no way such a rightward shift could just be the result of 4 years of mediocrity under Biden, it has to be indicative of a long-term trend. My current (entirely uninformed) theory is that the rot that has lead to [a nearly universal rightward shift in every state](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/678493467768520704/1303582059041652807/image.png?ex=672c46e6&is=672af566&hm=8012c191ca6bf58e4179d526518cf5ea6e437ee741d24eb93f05f61d1685775a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=486&height=350) has been ongoing since 2012, with 2020 being an outlier because the COVID backlash that Trump faced temporarily depressed the steadily rising conservative tide. It's grim to think about, but I genuinely don't think that it can be explained any other way.",
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"content": "It’s a lot about vibes:\n\nVibes about the economy \n\nVibes about immigration \n\nVibes about culture war issues\n\nCombined with people not liking Kamala because “woman bad”.",
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"content": "I don’t think Kamala’s sex or race are really an issue. I think it’s just fear mongering over immigrants and misinformation about the economy.",
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"content": "I don’t think so. Considering she is doing worse than Biden did 2020 who even back then was seen as very old and kinda senile did comparative better than Kamala (granted Covid probably did weird things to voter numbers, but considering both factors I say it evens out)\n\nIf Kamala was a straight white guy named Karl Harris, I feel like she would not be doing as badly in Pennsylvania and Georgia. I think that casual sexism broadly impacts men. A man who may be willing to vote for a male Dem but not a female Dem exists.",
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"content": "i haven’t watched it in years but I remember fondly the time I did as a kid but it does have some political messaging and some clips are shared by chuds online but i wouldn’t say that the show is by any means conservative in my opinion , the basic politics of the show is basically “everyone is dumb , give up” but I’m curious if maybe I’m losing some nuance , it’s just a silly discussion by the end of the day , I don’t really care what a silly cartoon blorbo has to say about politics but I wanna hear what other people have to say ",
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"content": "it's hard to pin down their politics based on the show because of how hard they rip on everything. i know lots of people roll their eyes or think SP is cringe, but damn that cartoon has had me in tears from laughter more times than i can count over the years. \n\nwould guess they are socially progressive centrists? not sure, that sort of thing usually doesn't cross my mind during cartoon time",
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"content": "Don't get me wrong I love SP and still think it's funny, but holy hell is the political commentary of it insufferable. The constant need to do the enlightened centrist bit does not come from actual centrist princicples, it actually comes from a very lazy and apathetic desire to appear smarter than politics. Trey and Parker don't have centrist principles, they just want to seem smart by dunking on both sides with edgy early 2000's humour, they've said it themselves. \nThe result is them making fun of the right's obssesion with immigrants and making a good point, but then simultaniously making fun of Al Gore for trying to bring awareness to climate change. The result isn't equal and the political commentary suffers due to a lack of knowlidge and a desire to dunk on both sides.",
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"content": "that's totally fair, haven't read any interviews with them but see what you're taking about. the reckoning they had was nice to see but yeah as a stinky tree hugging ~~hippy~~ environmentalist, i had to let go of the irk from undermining climate change. feels like only they could make me swallow such a thing because of how absurdly funny i found the dialogue and plot in related episodes.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I love this man. ",
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"content": "Nah fuck corbyn, I cannot take any so called “anti-war” and “anti-imperialist” seriously when they say we shouldn’t arm Ukraine and that Ukraine should just surrender to the Russian, he’s just another leftist who never forgave the people of Eastern Europe for killing the Soviet Union",
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"content": "He's bad on one issue he no longer is in any position to influence, boo hoo. Like yeah he has dumb takes on foreign policy like 90% of leftists but it seems dumb to judge him solely on that",
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"content": "He wants to leave a nation of 38 million to die and allow Russia to commit a genocide of the Ukrainian people and you expect me to just ignore that? Make no mistake what Russia wants to do in Ukraine is genocide, that’s why they’re stealing their children and giving them Russian birth certificates.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Bernie is backing Biden 🤦🏻♂️",
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"content": "No, I see the logic.\n\nIf Biden stays, it’s either back him fully or we get Trump.\n\nIf Biden goes, he has to do it entirely voluntarily and his successor has to have his full blessing to the point of being allowed to use his funding and ground game infrastructure - otherwise they’re gonna be utterly fucked just by the logistics of running a campaign.\n\nEither way, the best tactical choice is to play nice with the old man.",
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"content": "This is something that seems so painfully obviously and makes me roll my eyes when I see people just refuse to accept that calling your candidate unfit to rule and the worst person for the job is a terrible idea, even with the goal of them stepping down. Even if that person does step down, thr amount of negative associations you've put to your party will absolutely poison the perception with independents.",
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"content": "Normally that sort of talk is for the primaries, but dems kinda skipped the primaries and now they're eating shit for it.\n\nGod we're so cooked.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "\"Beau of The Fifth Column\" video on the issue of replacing Biden",
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"content": "Legitimately do you guys actually think this guy has a deeper understanding of electoral politics then Barrack Obama",
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"content": "Beau is one of the people whose opinion about politics (electoral or no) which I take the most seriously. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a deeper understanding of electoral politics than Obama.",
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"content": "That is actually an insane statement to say",
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"content": "Obama is a great charismatic front figure and a smart guy, I'm not aware of any reason in particular to think he's some electoral politics master mind.",
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"content": "He attended Harvard law and became its first black president of review. He was civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law. He won state and federal senate races. He was the president of the United States and won two elections, with the name Barrack Hussein Obama in the 2000s. And you are comparing him to a YouTuber.",
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"content": "I respect your right to disagree with me.",
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"content": "I assume we agree genuinely on may things, you guys are reaching for the sun on this one",
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"content": "I don't know who \"we guys\" are. I am simply giving you my honest opinion: Beau has given me very good reason to trust his political instincts and thought process, while I don't know enough about Obama to know what part of his success is due to his own personal excellent electoral-political instincts and which are other factors.\n\nThe fact that the idea that there may be people who are better at electoral politics than Obama is somehow controversial in your mind tells me enough about you. I don't feel the need to continue this conversation.",
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"content": "It’s not possible to look at all that history put charisma in a serious percentile",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Damn, i was certain it was a Russian account",
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"content": "Blue anon",
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"content": "?",
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"content": "In 2017, there was a large scandal over the possibility of Russian state collusion with the Trump campaign. Muller’s investigation ultimately concluded that, while Russian assets acted in ways beneficial to the Trump campaign, there was not enough evidence that they actually worked together to seek prosecution. \n\nSome verysmart people heard this, watched commentators like Rachel Maddow go crazy over the alleged conspiracy, and decided that believing in Russian intelligence ops is actually cringe and embarrassing. \n\nIt’s just negative polarization against liberals and you’re a dumbass if you think “Russiagate” was nothing.",
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"content": "You're forgetting about the extent the shit libs take this and apply it to EVERYONE and EVERYTHING they don't like or disagree with. Tankies do this shit with Vaush and accuse him of being paid by the DoD or State Department; and liberals accuse anyone who disagrees with them and happens to have a grammatical or spelling error in their comment of being an agent of the GRU. Maddow even went as far to fear-monger about Russia attacking our power grid. Little did all of us know - if you applied the same level of conspiratorial thinking she did - you could argue Maddow was deflecting attention away from the very real threat of home-grown fascist extremism targeting infrastructure like what happened in North Carolina last year. \n\nSo yes. Democrats are getting fucking crazy. Not fucking crazy like The GOP is. At least their kind of crazy still gets ALOT of people to vote for them. Liberals somehow found a way to be unhinged while also repelling away ANYONE and EVERYONE.\n\nLiberal smugness and brow-beating - combined with the same level of social alienation and isolation caused by the sprawl of suburbia - has limited the ability of liberals to network effectively to swing state voters. \n\nOh, and the reason why Biden won by 44k votes in 3 states was because Trump was responsible for the shitty pandemic response that killed almost 400k people in 9 months. \n\nThe fact The Liberal can barely win against an incompetent fascist proves how cooked the electorate is. This is primarily caused by the fact that liberals fell asleep at the wheel 30 fucking years ago. As Voosh put it: Liberals have enabled fascism. I also think they're actively trying to blame hypothetical leftists who simultaneously cause them to lose elections while also not being a significant political entity to make concessions with.",
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"content": "Lol you complain about liberals enabling fascism while having little to no chance to do anything about it (you need to look up filibuster and supermajority clearly) then complain about liberals doing the exact same thing you’re doing. \n\nAlso social isolation and suburbia is a result of Republican policies as well.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I have NEVER in my entire life seen the Democratic Party as united and lockstep as today. Harris fundraising numbers are astronomical.\n\nTrumps campaign fucked up with Vance and anti-old angle. \n\nWith abortion as an issue, Harris might not be as encumbered electorally by being a woman, and tbh she’s been killing it in speeches. \n\nRepublicans malding. Thank you Joe. We can do this. ",
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"content": "Vaush and other left pundits have been saying versions of my theory for a while: \n\nThe vast majority of Americans are sick of Donald Trump's annoying shit and want to not have to think about politics again (and, of course, there's the 30ish percent of weirdos like us who make it a point to vote).. Kamala, as a functional adult, represents the ability to make politics boring and not annoying anymore. That alone is a monstrous boon; add the post-Dobbs anger, Trump's deteriorating brain and ever-inscrutable web of conspiracies, his Peter Thiel-sponsored Homunclous VP, Kamala's demographic edges and relatively difficult-to-smear history and there's a really good chance we snatched victory from defeat on Sunday. \n\nI feel excited about electoral politics for the first time since...2012, maybe? I've forgotten what hope feels like. I think a lot of you guys might have too.",
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"content": "I agree with what you're saying, but what about the other left pundits and communities who now think AOC and Bernie are traitors and sellouts to the DNC elite, and because Gaza is the only issue they seem to care about, they won't vote for anyone who has been in or around the Biden administration.",
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"content": "Did they not already say that?",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "They thought they had this election in the bag. Now they're complaining.",
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"content": "I think the \"you guys have to refund us our money\" that they spent on - $47 million for someone's cousin to print out fliers or some other standard Republican corruption bullshit - takes the cake for the most pathetic display SO FAR.",
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"content": "I love how Trump thinks the fact that he spent a bunch of money against Biden and that money ended up going to waste should be of concern to anyone but himself. Like, are we going to reimburse Hillary Clinton for the money her campaign spent in 2016? It's so ridiculous, but it's because Trump is a pathological narcissist who thinks the world owes him everything.",
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"content": "The easiest counter is \"maybe you should have spent your campaign talking about what you are planning to do, instead of attacking someone else?\"",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Looks like it’s happening.",
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"content": "I'm looking forward to watching American leftists refuse every possible substitute. The general unwillingness to compromise will possibly lead to an absolute bloodbath that will do nothing but help the traitor get back into the White House.\n\nUs Europeans have to prepare for the worst : full-scale American betrayal of NATO and other US allies, and possible active intel collaboration aiming to aid the ongoing russian invasion of our continent. This will get very very ugly, and a lot of people are going to die as a result. We might lose the Baltic states with massive casualties.\n\nAs for the American side, you guys have barely experienced what russian hybrid attacks can do to your population. So far the kremlin has been rather limited in its ability to wreck havoc within your borders, and despite this they have managed to help put a puppet in the White House, possibly twice. But if this traitor wins again, oh boy, get ready for all the valves to open 200 fucking percent and experience total digital warfare the likes of which Ukraine has endured for the 10 years that preceeded the full-scale invasion. Some of your people have just no clue what's hanging over their heads.\n\nI hope opponents of Biden are happy with themselves. Now they will own this, and a lot of us will never forget, nor forgive this.\n\nFor the love of democracy and freedom, you people need to unite and compromise. The M4A pipe-dream ([please educate yourself on the topic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TaL7OhveM)) isn't a hill worth dying on in the short term when the outcome is the end of the rule of law and the rebirth of the soviet death machine.",
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"content": "Biden did this to himself. He knew he was weak at debating due to his age, and went ahead to try and do it anyway. He then crashed and burned, and instead of rebounding has just been going more and more down. Biden could have just refused to debate trump, and it would have swayed no one against biden, nor would it have pushed anyone else to Trump as he would have continued spiraling out of control while refused fuel for his fire.\n\nBut no, biden fucked that up bad and has been fucking up ever since. Man won't even let Harris speak at all as his VP. There needs to be a shot in the arm to actually motivate people beyond \"Don't let the traitor in\" when the president cannot even articulate why we shouldn't do that, and gets mad everyone else isn't doing it for him.",
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"content": "Biden is the best US president in my lifetime at the very least. He's the best ally Europe could have ever asked for in a time like this because he knows everything about the hottest issues and appoints the right people to deal with them.\n\nI will never understand how people cannot see this. It's absolutely insane. I don't give a shit that Biden had a bad debate. I care that he knows his shit and knows what buttons need to be pressed.\n\nThe American public is deeply uneducated and uninterested about the functioning of their own government, it's horrifying.",
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"content": "They didn’t think \"voted by family affiliation\" was dishonest enough bc I've found this with (family association) cropped out from the bottom",
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"content": "This is not a picture of him.",
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"content": "And he's not old enough to have voted for Hillary or biden",
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"content": "Oh it's (family affiliation)",
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"content": "Cons: You can tell his parents voted for democrats because that fits my narrative. Evidence? What do you mean? I just told you the evidence.",
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"content": "Dad was a libertarian apparently. Mom was a democrat. Something tells me it was the libertarian in him that day lol.",
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"content": "From a leftist perspective, who would be the best and most realistic VP choice for Kamala despite what you think of her?",
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"content": "I don't know really, would be funny if she picked Jamaal Bowman tho",
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"content": "Dude, PV just tried to canvas for him in the primaries, he lost but he is good, especially on being anti-zionist",
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"content": "\"how you doing fellow Blacks\" - trump tomorrow \n\nFucking racist ass title",
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"content": "Trump is gonna start playing \"Many Men\" by 50 Cent at his rallies, won't he? 50 would allow it too because he's a Trump supporter. 🤦🏾♂️\n\n\nThe fact so many young and middle-aged black men are influenced by rappers and pro athletes and their opinions is honestly embarrassing to me as a black man.",
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"content": "Hello, I have to ask what everyone thinks of the fashion arc?",
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"content": "As a proletariat guy, it's horrible and comes off as very champagne socialisty.\n\nIt's hardly advice. It's just showing off expensive shit that he buys online from niche clothing stores.",
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"content": "Nah it’s mostly advice",
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"content": "Okay its advice for other champagne bougie socialists",
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"content": "Not really, mostly what he says is applicable to whatever budget you have. People get caught up in his personal purchases rather than what he says, which is applicable to whoever. ",
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"content": "really how explain this to me",
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"content": "Somebody fact check this! Please tell me it's true! \n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/8eyy75l1mxdd1.png?width=601&format=png&auto=webp&s=e11024e1d1b5288b3706f7432b9d6337a41119c6\n\n[https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1815120287093924341](https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1815120287093924341)",
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"content": "Third result down from the [top](https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=donald+trump&order=desc&page=4&sort=D)",
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"content": "There's a few more on down the page as well. Quite a few D's on that list. Not surprising, but definitely interesting. Makes me wonder what he was getting out of it though. I know why he donated to the Clinton's, that made sense. But why kamala or Gillibrand or the others? Maybe God told him to.🤣🤣",
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"content": "I don't claim to know what was going through Drumpfs head almost 10 years ago.",
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"content": "Damn, i was certain it was a Russian account",
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"content": "Blue anon",
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"content": "In 2017, there was a large scandal over the possibility of Russian state collusion with the Trump campaign. Muller’s investigation ultimately concluded that, while Russian assets acted in ways beneficial to the Trump campaign, there was not enough evidence that they actually worked together to seek prosecution. \n\nSome verysmart people heard this, watched commentators like Rachel Maddow go crazy over the alleged conspiracy, and decided that believing in Russian intelligence ops is actually cringe and embarrassing. \n\nIt’s just negative polarization against liberals and you’re a dumbass if you think “Russiagate” was nothing.",
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"content": "Putin is also acting in ways beneficial to the Biden campaign and any other candidate who wants to continue to push Ukraine and Russia to stay at war. I don't see see why you're trying to still egg on the notion that there was meaningful collusion of any kind when we have literally not been able to find any evidence of it.",
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"content": "> the Biden campaign and any other candidate who wants to continue to push Ukraine and Russia to stay at war. \n\nHow is the Biden campaign doing this?",
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"content": "Very good news from France. The Left is now the biggest group in the Parliament while the Far Right has come third place ",
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"content": "does that mean macrons party will be in a coalition with nfp? Will they make melencholon the president or will it be macron",
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"content": "The NFP doesn’t have an already named candidate for Prime Minister (it former like a month ago in reaction to the snap election.) It likely won’t be Melenchon anyway cause Macron hates him and he says too many stupid things for the Socialist Party’s liking. ",
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"content": "NFP is half LFI half socialist, there need to be someone who represent the most people in these two formations so certainly not Mélenchon",
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"content": "If You or Someone you know are currently serving In The Military or Served before. Trump Holds you in Utter Contempt. 1/4",
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"content": "According to Mary Trump’s book Too Much and Never Enough, the contempt/disrespect that Trump has for military Veterans was passed down from Trump’s dad, who threatened to disown or disinherit any kids who joined. (Fred Trump Jr., Mary’s dad, was belittled for joined the Air National Guard.) I’m guessing Trump’s dad’s ideas about the military came from his dad (the draft dodger). So. The circle of life.\n\nInteresting info, btw Trump degraded his Older brother Fred Trump Jr for wanting to become a pilot - a high earning and very respected job. He called it a glorified taxi driver. A Reminder , When Trump is seeking to Connect With The Working Class With his Recent Bizarre McDonalds Photo-Op Stunt\n\nAnyhow As We Saw over The Years with Cadet Bone Spurs ( Recall He Faked a disability 5 times to avoid a war he didn’t oppose -So possibly 5 non-rich guys went to Vietnam in his place & died ) has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and once even asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, along with Calling Americans Who Died in War 1 as ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ According to John Kelly A Retired General & His Former Chief of Staff.\n\nTrump’s hatred of veterans goes back long before his presidency. In 1991 & 2004 , he successfully fought to have disabled veterans who operated vending carts kicked off Fifth Avenue because he felt they were a “detriment” & “eye sore “ to the neighborhood and Trump Tower.\n\nThis is a man who for years from 1993-1998 on The Howard Stern Show compared avoiding STDs like Vietnam , his “personal Vietnam”: “I feel like a great and very brave soldier”\n\nThis is a man who in 2020 compared the “invisible wounds” of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans A brain injury to Just a “headache,”\n\nThis is a man who said his experience at his expensive prep school growing up , gave him “more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military.”\n\nThis is a man who In 2016 instead of being a billionaire with a habit of secretly buying houses and donating the houses to veterans. , Trump instead looted his own charitable foundation focused on Military Veterans for his own benefit In fact when his campaign was supposed to send funds to help homeless vets, he sent something else. Which was a Make America Great Again Bumper Sticker, individuals without a home , let alone a vehicle\n\nIn Fact Trump From 2004-2011 Specifically Targeted Veterans , Returning home From Afghanistan/Iraq, When it Came to Trump University\n\nThis is a man who -Fired Lt Col Vindman for doing his duty, as the primary witness to Donald Trump’s Lawlessness, that began his first impeachment trial. -He also fired Vindman’s brother for being Vindman’s brother, who was a lead ethics attorney and a deputy legal advisor\n\nThis is man who Had military pit stops in Ireland & Scotland go hours out of their way to stay at his properties so our tax$ would be pumped into his Pockets\n\nThis is a man who forced West Point cadets to travel back for graduation during The Covid plague, endangering their health & the health of their families, for a photo-op intended for him\n\nThis is a man who Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be ‘expected’ bc America lets women serve ( Yes Really)\n\nThis is a man, Trump that Desires The Military for his personal use , to inflict on the American People\n\nAfter all , ask yourself has there ever been a President , who’s pardoned as Many War Criminals as Trump has ?\n\nThis is man who exploited veterans by filming a campaign commercial at Arlington National Cemetery.\n\nThis a man along with Jared Kushner that worked together to deregulate the military electronic healthcare records system in an attempt to sell VA medical records of service members to private businesses and foreign entities.\n\nThis is a man that has a habit of defending the Confederacy & portraying the efforts of Union Civil War Casualties as a waste.\n\nNot only that Donald Trump Recently Praised Pro Israeli billionaire Republican donor Miriam Adelson, whom he awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian award,once Trump said she fared “much better” than receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor because recipients of that award are often badly injured or dead.\n\n& Worse he has matched his language & personal actions with policies. 2/4",
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"content": "During his First Presidency: Trump took credit for the Obama administration’s policies for veterans while failing to deliver on his own promises. In Fact \n\nTrump Decided to Target Food Stamps & Medicaid, When Veterans are disproportionately Homeless , On Top of Pushing For Government Shutdowns Constantly \nWhich actively hurts Current Military Personnel & their families\n\nIn 2019 Trump Froze pay for all Fed agencies via Executive Order - Fed workforce is 31% veteran, approx 623k vets\n\nIn 2018, the Trump CFPB announced it would no longer supervise lenders for violations of the Military Lending Act, which caps interest rates on loans to servicemembers and their families at 36%. & Undid regulations on predatory lenders who target military members \n\nBut that’s just the beginning, of what he has in mind for Current Military Members & Veterens \n\nThe Heritage Foundation/ The GOP has laid out Project 2025 which details \n\ngutting military retirement & VA disability benefits, also separating that concurrent receipt , so as to not be allowed to receive both payments simultaneously\n\n\nAlso trying to cut basic housing allowance, Secondary education benefits , & privatizing Tricare As well.\n\nAlso wants to scrap that “concurrent receipt” to save money. And even though (or perhaps \nbecause\n\nAlso they want to slap an arbitrary 10-year time limit on when veterans can apply for disability compensation at all\n\n\nRecall issues like cancer from exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam or burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan can take decades to develop. \n\nOn the other side, you got The Democratic Party & progressive veterans like Walz, Ruben Gallego, that have a shot this year. \n\n ¾",
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"content": "Tim Walz, who Republicans Tried to Swift-Boat like John Kerry. \n\nTim Walz is a Moderate, a Heartland of America Democrat, Small Town. \n\nHe served in Both The Nebraska National Guard & The Minnesota National Guard From 1981-2005 to reach the rank of Command Sergeant Major, and when elected to office was the the highest ranking military official to serve in Congress.\n\nHe used The G.I Bill to get a degree to become a public school teacher \n\nAfter winning the first of six House races, before becoming governor of Minnesota, Walz joined the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee (HVAC) — a low-status committee assignment spurned by many aspiring politician\nWhere he was the ranking Dem From 2017-2019,. and while he started privatization-curious, he came to realize that the Trump VA’s goal was “to force unprecedented numbers of veterans into the private sector for their care\nIn 2018, he joined just sixty-nine other House Democrats in opposing the VA MISSION Act, one of Trump’s proudest legislative achievements and the basis for his 2024 campaign pledge to make VA “patient choice” more widely available.\nWalz warned, accurately, that MISSION Act outsourcing would force the VA to “cannibalize itself” by diverting billions of dollars from direct care delivery to reimbursement of private sector providers. This incremental defunding of VHA hospitals and clinics now threatens to leave them in what Walz called a “can’t-function situation.”\nHe made tremendous gains for Veterans, working with Folks on the appropriation committee. He became advocate for fellow veterans with service-related conditions. \n\nHis own hearing damage resulted from repeated exposure to artillery blasts during 2 Decades + National Guard training exercises. He won applause for cosponsoring a bill focused on suicide prevention services; it was named after a Marine veteran who killed himself in 2011 after long struggles with PTSD and depression.\n\nHe Brings The Security Credential, The Rural Credential, The Veterans Credential \n\nBut you got Republicans & a Guy like Vance Accusing Walz of “ Stolen Valor” \n\nGiving Tim Walz crap for not being in combat in Afghanistan which Walz never omitted. , Walz has always made it clear he was in a COMBAT ZONE, , versus being IN COMBAT, all of it dumb\n\n\nCuz J.D Vance was never a combat veteran. He was in Iraq for 6 months as a Commentary Reporter.\n\n\n90% of all military personnel will never see or be in combat or ever have to fire their weapon. You can be in a combat zone but never have to be in combat. I think Vance is relying on the stupidity of his MAGA supporters to not know any better. Pathetic.\n\n\nThis Election , Veterans should Be Voting Democratic Down Ballot as well . Particularly in Senate Races \n \nYou got Jon Tester , who has made the Miltary & Veterans issues in particular, a focus of his career. Montana, has \n\none of the highest proportions of veterans of any state in the U.S., & Tester Secured funding for new V.A. clinics and expanded access to mental-health care there ;& Helped Pass with The Biden Administration \n.\n\nThe PACT Act of 2022, which has helped nearly a million post-9/11 vets file more successful disability claims based on their past exposure & The Fallout to exposure of burn pits & other Toxic Substances in Iraq and Afghanistan. Over the next decade, the PACT Act authorizes hundreds of billions of dollars for effective delivery of their medical care and financial benefits — but all of that is dependent on a well-functioning VA.\n\n\nThat’s Not happening with Trump. \nCuz He Shares the same sentiment about Veterans as Henry Kissinger Former United States Secretary of State from 1974-1977 & National Security Advisor from 1969-1975, Who Allegedly once said \n\n\n“Military Men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawn”. \n\n\n\n\nThat’s how Trump views Veterans , That’s how he views \n313,912 Veterans living in Minnesota, how he views the Nearly 100 individuals with some connection to Minnesota , who were killed in combat during Iraq/Afghanistan \n\n\n& Most importantly how he views that Old Vietnam vet who recently presented Trump during a town hall event in Fayetteville, North Carolina, with a Purple Heart he received for his service there \n\n\nDespite Trump famously dodging service there, simply Cuz He Was Rich \n\n\nThe Irony of Donald accusing Colin Kaepernick of Hating our Military . 4/4",
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"content": "Is it really Joever?",
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"content": "Finally, a serious person",
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"content": "This article is definitely preaching to the choir in this sub, but it’s a decent piece nonetheless. The Trotsky quote at the end feels pretty relevant.",
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"content": "Listen, I get the frustration with Biden. His record on state violence, abortion, trans rights, and Palestine is far from stellar. But let’s cut to the chase: politics isn’t about finding a flawless candidate. It’s about choosing someone who can be pressured and influenced. Biden, for all his flaws, has shown some responsiveness to leftist demands. And if an alternative is selected, I'm sure they would be too. Now, imagine the catastrophe of another Trump presidency: intensified fascist policies, further marginalization of vulnerable communities, and a colossal setback for progressive causes.\n\nThe stakes here are monumental. Elections have real, consequential impacts. Sitting this one out due to disillusionment or frustration is simply not an option. We CANNOT let apathy or ideological purity pave the way for another Trump term. Voting is a critical weapon in our arsenal to fight for a better future. The ballot box alone won’t save us, but it’s a vital part of the struggle. We need to apply pressure every single day, not just during elections. Get serious, get strategic, and let’s fight smart.",
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"content": "I agree with your points, but you're definitely using too soft of a language. Flawless and far from stellar would not be my choice of words for a person funding a genocide.",
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"content": "It's literally half of the US' modern history to fund unjust wars and all the horrid shit that entails",
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"content": "https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4773262-vance-trump-running-mate-front-runner/",
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"content": "Imo, terrible strategic decision. Vance has many of the same weaknesses as Trump, with few unique strengths. This is a pick that will energize his base, but do little to interest anyone else. The negative media coverage I’ve seen about Vance has preempted this nicely, which is why I assumed Trump wouldn’t pick him… I guess Haley and Lake just didn’t have the gas.",
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"content": "Negative media coverage is a dime a dozen nowadays and has lost its power. JD Vance is an all american boy with a sympathetic back story. I think from a strategic point of view it was a good choice.",
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"content": "Maybe, but now you have people saying \"If I don't show up to vote against their ticket we might have a President JD Vance in the White House.\" I can't see that being a good decision.",
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"content": "Most people didn't know who Hawk Tuah girl was three weeks ago.",
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"content": "and?",
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"content": "Previously unknown people can quickly rise to prominence.",
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"content": "An open convention can only mean that Pelosi and co. want to push their own candidate, they dont want Kamala, they never did, they dont agree with the majority of his barely progressive policies and they see kamala as an extension of those policies. They are going to push someone to the right of Joe. All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nEdit: these link didnt post for some[ reason](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893)\n\nEdit 2: The vaush clip i wanted to include isnt working so yeaaaaaah . . .",
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"content": "Or... maybe AOC is out of the loop and doesn't know what she's talking about. We leftists need to get our head out the gutter with this conspiracy thinking. They want biden out because he's old and no one likes him, not because he's secretly a socialist or too left leaning or some bs. \n\nShe's playing the political game just as much as every else here is",
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"content": "I think she makes some valid points, she’s in the loop more than any of us. I still disagree with her but she knows what’s she talking about.",
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"content": "Even of shes right that Nancy and Jeffries and whoever want both Biden and Kamala gone i still think even an open convention (even though Kamala would be the infinitely better option based on the arguments both she and vaush have made) will do less harm than running with Biden, especially after these 4 weeks of intense media grilling",
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"content": "I have NEVER in my entire life seen the Democratic Party as united and lockstep as today. Harris fundraising numbers are astronomical.\n\nTrumps campaign fucked up with Vance and anti-old angle. \n\nWith abortion as an issue, Harris might not be as encumbered electorally by being a woman, and tbh she’s been killing it in speeches. \n\nRepublicans malding. Thank you Joe. We can do this. ",
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"content": "im sooo looking forward to the DNC now.",
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"content": "Given the majority of delegates are already pledged, the DNC should be fun. \n\nGoing to be wild to see the contrast between it and the RNC.",
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"content": "Well, RNC was also fully united behind Trump, just, well, completely evil and insane.\n\n\"Mass deportation now\" signs. Jesus christ. How is this at all tolerated. Jesus.",
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"content": "It's what most of their supporters have always wanted to say out loud. They've finally boiled the frog.",
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"content": "To me it seems that most actually didn't want this, specifically. They were peddled abstract fear and hate for years but I bet many did not realize where it actually leads.\n\nThat's probably that pipeline thing. People will gradually be groomed into ever more extreme views, even if they started from simple ignorance and fear of the world.",
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"content": "Dems if they maintain control of the senate and win the house back and have the white house they must make DC a state like every 2 years the control of the senate is decided by a few raises if we add Washington that’s two solid blue dems it will make a Republican majority harder ",
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"content": "There is zero chance they will have the votes for that, unfortunately. If they did, they should also abolish the electoral college.",
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"content": "Well they can if they abolish the filibuster which Schumer wants to do so as long as we have 51 votes dems are all on board and no filibuster it could be done",
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"content": "I don’t think they could get enough democrats to do this. But who knows? Also, it would require both the house and the senate to satisfy the Admissions Clause… which reminds me, I have no idea who is projected to win the house. lol.",
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"content": "Oh the house will be the democrats without a doubt the senate is the real question",
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"content": "That’s really good news! It limits the damage another Trump administration could do for at least a couple of years.",
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"content": "Oh no project 2025 they could implement without either houses if trump wins which I highly doubt we are fucked",
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"content": "I wish I could share in that confidence. And yeah, I just meant holding at least one branch of congress will limit some of the damage… certainly not all, and not the worst of it.",
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"content": "Some good news",
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"content": "Also NC went blue across the board; Dem Governor, Dem Lt Governor, Dem school superintendent, Dem AG, and 2 dem reps. Everything except president….🤦🏻♂️",
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"content": "That says everything to me..this was an anti Biden election. Undoubtedly, Biden has flopped as president.",
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"content": "I think its also mixed with Trumpism without Trump just not being viable.",
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"content": "If the Dems change candidates, it'll be to Harris. The deadline for filing other candidates has passed and the standard procedure is for the second person on the ticket to step up if the first person dies/retires/otherwise leaves the race. So voting early or voting late doesn't matter unless you'd vote for Harris but not for Biden or vice versa.\n\nEdit: Of course, voting for the Presidency is way more complicated. You aren't actually casting a vote, you're advising a group of electors who you'd like them to vote for unless you're in one of those states that mandates electors vote according to the population's wishes. Here's a site explaining it in greater detail. But TL;DR is that the timing of your vote only matters if further information you can gain will change it. If you're Voting Blue No Matter Who, then the timing doesn't matter. [https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic\\_National\\_Convention,\\_2024#cite\\_ref-politifact\\_6-0](https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_National_Convention,_2024#cite_ref-politifact_6-0)",
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"content": "This is misinformation. The earliest deadline for filling a candidate for your party is before August 27th in Ohio. Democrats don't even have an official candidate until the convention.",
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"content": "Dude had shit aim",
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"content": "Why kick him out, as opposed to teaching him the proper way to shoot?",
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"content": "Well the club member said “it was like dangerous” how poor this guys shooting was. Probably didn’t properly handle the gun safely either.",
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"content": "So then teach him how to properly handle the gun then. It’s not rocket science. They probably could have taught in in about 30 minutes to an hour 🤷🏼♂️",
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"content": "Some people are a lost cause when it comes to certain skills",
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"content": "True enough",
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"content": "Just hours after Biden stepped down, his campaign has officially filed the paperwork to hand it over to Harris for President, and she is raking it in from grassroots donos. CocoMomala is unburdened ",
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"content": "I think this is a solid demonstration of the grassroots hunger for a fresh face, despite coping Biden stans claiming this was purely driven by “elites.”",
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"content": "AOC herself was pretty clear that there was a huge donor push behind this. This isn't a conspiracy theory.",
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"content": "Except it wasn’t just donors, it was normal everyday voters wanting and pushing for this too.",
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"content": "Based on unreliable polls and jingoistic headlines whose funding is dubious to say the least. All of that in a climate of heated social media battles plagued by botfarms and astroturfing.\n\nNone of this sounded sane and it was nowhere enough for me to see any credibility in it.",
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"content": "No, based on using our eyes and ears and watching Biden being barely able to function for the majority of the campaign, let alone his debate performance. He called Zelensky Putin and called Kamala “VP Trump” during the recent NATO meeting for fucks sake!",
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"content": "Hey buddy, calm down. I'm not your enemy here. I'm not denying Biden had his share of problematic oopsies. My issue is with how sudden and coordinated it looked. Isn't this sub supposed to be against big political donors fucking over the voters?",
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"content": "Yes this sub is against big political donors fucking over the voters. What I’m saying is that Biden stepping down isn’t an example of that. This is Biden acceding to the will of the people, including big donors, but also including most voters. We didn’t get an actual primary (hell, three states just straight up didn’t have primaries). Biden wasn’t the candidate the voters chose, he was crowned by the powers that be. When his decline became so obvious to everyone, the big donors had to cave to popular pressure that he just wasn’t a viable candidate and then they pressured him out. This isn’t “sudden”, it’s something people have been saying since the beginning of the campaign: he’s got cognitive decline and he’s too old to run again. I just think you’re being either obtuse or willfully ignorant in attempting to frame this as some sort of exclusively back-room deal made by the elites when it very clearly was not.",
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"content": "All I'm saying is, it's going to take much more than what I've seen up until now to convince me that what swayed the Democratic party is tangible evidence that voters overwhelmingly wanted Biden out and not backroom talk with big donors.\n\nAgain, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying there is a lot of smoke in the air and I cannot just accept a \"trust me bro\" when it comes to that. Sorry.\n\nBut regardless, if Harris is the nominee, I'll be happy. What matters to me first and foremost is that Ukraine, Taiwan and NATO are not betrayed by the US President in 2025. My worry with the donors issue is that it could extend to Harris as well, in which case we would be in huge trouble.",
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"content": "It was BOTH donors and voters- donors specifically responding to polls showing overwhelming discontent with Biden. Donors have proven they’re willing to push through candidates who are largely (but not insurmountably) unpopular (see Biden vs Bernie 2020 primary). They were perfectly willing to do so again with Biden until it became unfeasible mathematically. So, again, it was BOTH",
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"content": "AOC was right lol. ",
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"content": "I'm not sure if an open convention is a good idea. I’ve been hearing that they want to allegedly get rid of Harris and I think that is a horrible idea. She is not charismatic, yes, but she is the only realistic replacement.\n\nWe cannot let 1968 happen again.",
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"content": "Biden dropping out is already bad enough, given how unprepared the people proposing it seem to be, an open convention is political suicide.",
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"content": "Just because they aren't telling the media doesn't mean they are unprepared. Pelosi is a fucking shark. Chances are high she's been in the batcave working up all options since 3 minutes into the debate.",
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"content": "For all you not watching the speech rn, Biden is not stepping down, and he referred to Kamala as “vice president trump”",
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"content": "And as Zelensky as Putin...\n\nWe are so JoBack? Idk man this is a disaster. I cant believe the dnc looked at this man and though \"Now hes out guy, 4 more years baby\"",
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"content": "Real tired boss 🫠",
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"content": "This is a disaster lol, sounds like hes filibustering for time",
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"content": "Exactly. This is just elder abuse at this point. I was genuinely worried he might drop his little sheet of paper and bend over to pick it up, then fall over and break something. Every sentence is a new opportunity to gaffe again. This is a nightmare.",
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"content": "He also got weirdly angry at points too, bad look",
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"content": "He's honestly devolving into Donald Trump in weird ways.\n\n* Now has an orange spray-on tan\n* Going on and on about his golf game\n* Insisted that ABC change their transcript of him saying \"goodest\" to \"good as\", insisting that he didn't make a mistake\n* Calls into Morning Joe to do angry rants over the phone\n* Has a massive chip on his shoulder about \"the elites\" and going on self-pitying rants about how \"The Elite\" were always against him\n* Low-key hitting at Obama and Hillary Clinton by ranting about \"elites\" calling on him to drop out\n* Can't remember anybody's name\n* Beefing with celebrities - insisting that he has better physical amd mental stamina than George Clooney \n* Having his surrogates to attack President Obama - like Mika Brzezinski defending Biden by claiming that Obama is behind George Clooney asking Biden to step down\n* Calling down-ballot Democrats names for questioning him\n* Implying that he wants to be President to sate his ego by making it all about him, not for the good of the country ",
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"content": "He really is isnt he. Sad to see, you think hes doing it on purpose to draw trump voters or just his ego taking over him ?",
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"content": "Not his ego, just dementia.",
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"content": "¿Porque no los dos?",
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"content": "The culture war is hardly a new thing. You can go back a bit to the religious right shitting themselves over Harry Potter's witchcraft. You can go back further than that to the late 80s and the PMRC's war on music. And of course, you can go back even further than that to the satanic panic. \n\nThe avenues and targets of the war may change, but the war never changes.",
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"content": "Go back much further: “should it be allowable to own Black people?”",
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"content": "I've noticed among my friends who fit such a category and some Leftist streamers, a profound lack of fear for the potential of a Trump presidency. I even saw Xanderhal state that he'd consider Trump over Newsom - \"Here's the thing though Trump would take your rights away, Newsom would take my rights away\" \n \nIt felt surprising to me the lack of concern for the danger Trump poses and is making me question whether the fear i've seen online is just from all other demographics and that maybe Leftist white male Allies are just simply not personally worried about it.",
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"content": "Where did Xan say this? Gonna need actual proof before I believe he made such a stupid comment",
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"content": "Yeah glad someone is at least asking for proof instead of taking it at face value here from some internet randos say so. \n\nThe anti-Xan attitudes in Vaush's community is getting irksome now. Honestly think it's just sour grapes at this point that he was proven right about Keffels and some can't let the spite go.",
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"content": "Just watched the clip, do think his being a tad hyperbolic here. However, if the day did come he breaks his 'blue no matter who' because or being NIMBY for 'meh guns 'then yeah this beyond moronic. \n\nI do agree with him that Gavins anti-gun CA policy probably make him a bad presidential replacement or even VP pick. It's honestly one of the biggest things lib politicians do to scare away people from the democratic party. Be great to take away from conservatives ironicly the talking point 'we want to take away all guns from you.' \n\nStill, thank you for pointing me for the clip and sorry I said you didn't provide one. My bad and on me for that one.",
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"content": "Newsom is also poised to sign an \"age verification\" porn ban/info gathering bill into law, which is not a great look.",
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"content": "Biden tests positive for Covid-19",
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"content": "Please for the love of god if Biden dies dont let Kamala run, I am unironically going to shit my pants and die.",
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"content": "I hate to say it but I think that copmala \"she's a woman soyyyyy\" Harris would actually be a hit with the absolutely insufferable majority of liberals who actually have sway in the elections",
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"content": "You'd like it until Trump gets elected.\n\nKamala has litteraly no chances of winning. Even worst the others candidates are nobodies.\n\nIt's Biden or Trump. As much as I hate to say it, Only Biden can beat Trump at this stage.",
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"content": "Kamala is a much better choice than Biden and can appeal to various demographics unlike Biden. She’s also extremely qualified and not old. She’d make history as the first women president.",
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"content": "Kamala is a woman, with no track record as a president and a negative charisma that makes her obnoxious.\n\n4 and a half months before election day...\n\nDo you want to repeat 2016 ? Because that's exactly what would happen.\n\nIt's not an odds game, it's a win conditions game",
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"content": "Did Obama or trump have a track record as a president? Biden had the same track record as Kamala when he ran in 2020. Kamala is more charismatic than Biden and guess what she doesn’t look like a corpse. Kamala would put too rest the “two old white men, is this the best we got?” narrative",
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"content": "We said the same with Hillary and look what happened... \n\nKamala is obnoxious and her popularity is even lower than Joe Biden. She has a negative charisma that make people want to vote for anyone but her.\n\nYes one old white man is the best we got. There is no alternative and it's the only one that has key points that allow us to win. Kamala has none of them",
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"content": "Were trying to yeet a corpse against Trump hoping he'll win on pure \"anyone but trump\" vibes. How would Kamala be any worse than Biden?",
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"content": "Because there was no serious competition against Biden and he is the incumbent.\n\nKamala is just black Hillary and we know she will lose",
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"content": "Looks like it’s happening.",
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"content": "I'm so fucking sick of politics",
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"content": "People checking out is what got us here. That's what your opponents want.",
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"content": "And that's what's going to happen with Biden replaced with some other person that no one has an affinity for. Thanks Dems once again we are going to lose and it's going to be because another subpar candidate was picked. ",
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"content": "An open convention can only mean that Pelosi and co. want to push their own candidate, they dont want Kamala, they never did, they dont agree with the majority of his barely progressive policies and they see kamala as an extension of those policies. They are going to push someone to the right of Joe. All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nEdit: these link didnt post for some[ reason](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893)\n\nEdit 2: The vaush clip i wanted to include isnt working so yeaaaaaah . . .",
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"content": ">All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nDid everyone on this subreddit suddenly become a Joe Biden superfan?? What the hell is this comparison lmao\n\nBiden's old as shit, and he's lost confidence of the majority of Dems because he cannot speak beyond what's on a teleprompter. Good President /=/ good candidate.\n\nKamala's the only logical pick, and if it goes to an open convention it's gonna be a nominal contest where Kamala sweeps and projects party unity.",
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"content": "when did everyone become a Kamala Harris superfan? Are we just wanting her because she's not Biden and she can use all of Biden's campaign money? If so, that's the fucking wrong call. This feels like it's been astroturfed to all hell and I'm losing my mind that this how the left is trying to move. It's too late to change, it really is.",
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"content": "It's not about being a super fan. At this point, supporting Harris is the only pragmatic option. I feel like anybody saying otherwise is going to have pie on their face in the near future.",
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"content": "She's walking on eggshells, not wanting to leak DMs so to speak, but the general vibe I'm getting is that if Biden drops out, we're not getting Harris, there's no unified plan, and everyone in the party is gonna be pushing for their own interests, culminating in an open convention and it's going to be a shitshow.\n\nNow maybe she really is out of the loop and there is a plan being developed, but if that's the case I can't exactly criticize her for being kept in the dark. I know I have zero faith in the Dem leadership to get shit done, why should I expect this time to be different.\n\nI would love to get a Harris/Buttigieg or Harris/Shapiro ticket come November, but if the Dems don't want Harris on the ticket for whatever reason then honestly I think we would be better off with Biden.",
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"content": "I agree its gotta be either biden or Harris. NO on open convention. i think that would be a disaster for us!",
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"content": "I disagree actually. Not only do I think there’s much better candidates than Kamala. I think the open convention is a perfect way to get the media attention and the candidate a little battle hardened for the final push to November. Candidates like Whitmer poll higher better than Kamala and she gives a guaranteed Michigan win.",
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"content": "I just see a huge fight and power grab in that setting. maybe im wrong and that wouldn't happen. but i don't think it will help us win. i really reallly don't want a repeat of 1968!\n\nSo If biden has to step down, im fully on the coconut train here!",
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"content": "I agree. Anyone selected by an open convention will have been voted in by the electors only. Brandon, and by extension, Coconut Mother , were at last picked by voters in 2020 and more closely reflect the will of the people",
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"content": "in no way did the 2020 democratic primary reflect the will of the people – laughable...",
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"content": "Oh yeah? Did you phone bank for Bernie? Because I did, and the majority of swing state boomers I spoke to were ridin with Biden. \n\nI didn't agree with them, of course, because I was phone banking for Bernie, but those are the facts. And people like that are the bulk of primary voters. \n\nWere there shenanigans from the DNC? Probably. But the popular online narratives never tell the whole truth.\n\n Bernie did very well. He came in second place. He represented the youth vote and that's why Biden worked with him to get progressive policy concessions.",
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"content": "i have phone banked numerous times and there is no way you came close to calling enough, let alone *speaking* to enough people to have a sample size worth a damn – stopped reading after that...",
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"content": "Why would they do that? \n\nBecause Mengela was a psychopath. That's why.",
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"content": "Please don't use the term psychopath, dehumanize him in a way that doesn't contribute to the negative stigma surrounding the mentally ill.",
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"content": "Granted, I am not a psychologist, but he clearly fits most of the 20 criteria for the diagnosis. \n\nMost psychopaths will never hurt anyone. But most psychopaths aren't put in charge of a massive labor/death camp. With essentially no oversite. Not that anyone in charge would care what was done to the prisoners.",
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"content": "Still not great to do the armchair psychologist bit, especially since regular people can be just as cruel if not more than psychopaths. \n\nContrary to popular belief, psychopaths actually aren't sadistic and are indifferent to the suffering of others. Sure they don't feel empathy, but that's not the same as being a sadist.\n\nSo a psychopath in charge of a massive death camp would likely just follow the instructions they were given. Psychopaths are generally indifferent to the pain of others, they don't go out of their way to hurt others because why would they? How would it benefit them? \n\nAnd I really hate to be the guy that has to correct people on this but come on. Pop culture has already done a shit ton of damage to the public's perception of psychopaths, we don't need to continue with this ableist myth that all cruel people must be psychopaths because it misses the point. \n\nThe point is that all humans are capable of cruelty, so to point at someone like Mengele and call him a psychopath is actually detrimental to actual psychopaths trying to live their lives and deflects from the fact that \"normal\" people in general can be unfathomably cruel to one another.",
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"content": "*”Why aren’t people” my bad for the typo",
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"content": "It’s pointing out that everything that’s wrong with Biden is wrong with Trump so focusing on Biden being unfit to hold office when Trump is equally incoherent is sus",
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"content": "We’ve already been focusing on Trumps cognitive decline for the past 8 years. Are we not allowed to voice a valid criticism of Joe Biden and the Democratic Party??",
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"content": "Straw man. No one is saying you're not allowed.",
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"content": "Very good news from France. The Left is now the biggest group in the Parliament while the Far Right has come third place ",
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"content": "I love my French neighbours! Now I hope we Germans can at least be half as based as you! Love ya all",
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"content": "2024 Germans: [Ze Fourth Reich] 👀........I wish I knew how to quit you....",
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"content": "How to quit me? What does that mean?",
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"content": "A reference to a line from Brokeback Mountain. One man said that to another man because they were both in a secret gay relationship and were trying to break up/stop it. They gave in because neither one had the willpower to stop having secret sex meet-ups with the other. \"I wish I knew how to quit you\" means you wish you had the wisdom or willpower to stop returning to indulging a bad habit or a vice/guilty pleasure.",
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"content": "I see",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Source: https://x.com/ryanobles/status/1810444530120003818?t=pli0VpBG6Ld9CDdzatsv3Q&s=19",
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"content": "She's a realist, so she's acknowledging reality, instead of picking a fight she'd lose.",
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"content": "I think it’s the realization that he’s not stepping down. I’m pretty sure most Dems want him to back down for someone younger and more gusto. But he’s refusing to leave and he’s still better than Trump because a literal corpse is. It’s Biden or a dictatorship.",
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"content": ">It’s Biden or a dictatorship.\n\nIsn't it ironic that anti Biden people would rather have an annointed nominee rather than the elected one?\n\nMost people would want a younger nominee. However most Dem voters picked Biden. The Liberal Boomers picked Biden and that's who we're stuck with.",
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"content": "I would rather another Democratic Nominee. The people who voted for Biden in the primary’s are usually the “vote blue no matter who crowed”. The only thing that may stop them is a progressive. Which almost none of the other candidates are. \n\nBiden is cooked. It’s bad PR, there’s a very good chance he’s gonna fuck up again. But if he ain’t stepping down he’s our best shot.",
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"content": ">who voted for Biden in the primary’s are usually the “vote blue no matter who crowed”.\n\nYeah they picked Clinton too and are the majority of the party, especially for the primaries. They didn't want a progressive, so we don't have one.\n\nNo one tried to primary Biden. Biden actually has good policy like making narcan OTC, or reducing medication costs. Biden was cooked 4 years ago. Nothing has changed in four years except the Supreme Court has shows it's true colors. \n\nI personally believe if Trump wasn't running, Biden would have stepped down.",
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"content": "If you agree they’re “vote blue no matter who”. Then what exactly is your argument? \n\nThey will vote for whoever is the front runner. Sure they picked Biden before his mental decline. But that doesn’t mean they won’t vote for another front runner. \n\nEspecially when the polls are so split on whether or not he should stay in the race. Sure polls are the demon but even institutional Democrats are saying he should make room for a younger candidate. \n\nI care about beating Trump and that’s it at the moment. And polls are not looking good for Biden if he keeps on running like he is.",
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"content": ">They will vote for whoever is the front runner. Sure they picked Biden before his mental decline. \n\nWhy are you talking like he wasn't already in decline in 2020?\n\nI campaigned for someone else then. I followed the primaries.\n\n>But that doesn’t mean they won’t vote for another front runner.\n\nWhy are you talking like it's January 2024 and there is a primary?\n\n>even institutional Democrats are saying he should make room for a younger candidate\n\nNope, it's the progressives. The institutional dems are Newsom and Buttigieg, even Sanders was on CNN rallying around the President. Isn't this OP claiming that even AOC supporting Biden?\n\nThere's a media campaign to dissuade young voters because young voters lean towards Democrats.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "In the name of the Galactic Senate of the Republic, you're under arrest, Biden.",
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"content": "Apart of me is really not buying the idea that none of them knew how bad he was getting and all this is a theatre to remove the party from this clownish attempt to run the country via elderly abuse",
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"content": "The USA is not a parliamentary system and I don't think they're used to toppling party leaders.\n\nNobody realised that it's something they should have been thinking about until they were forced to.",
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"content": "All these people have had access to Biden for decades, they knew how bad he was getting, they are pretending to be shocked and surprised to justify waiting to do this now instead of a year ago. I blame them far more then Biden honestly",
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"content": "BASED",
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"content": "Any details you can share?",
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"content": "There are literally 5 different articles you can read depicted right here. Go google them and read them",
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"content": "Why can't OP post any of them? Why the screenshot?",
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"content": "Clooney has fallen, I repeat Clooney has fallen",
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"content": "Also, George Stephanopoulos said he doesn’t think Biden can serve four years. Not a good look.\n\nSource: [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna161054](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna161054)",
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"content": "I don't need him to serve another 4 years. I just need him to serve another 7 months",
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"content": "I'll take 4.5 months and a swift refill of the VP seat with another Dem (so Mike Johnson doesn't stand a chance).",
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"content": "I predict the first few polls for Kamala are gonna be ugly, probably not Biden Bad, but not the landslide we are currently feeling with our hopium high. Do not worry. Her numbers are gonna bump Big after the DNC and just in general there are a *LOT* of good signs right now. ",
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"content": "“Bad initial polling” I mean she made 100 million in what like 2 days? I’m extremely doubtful of that. Americans are not as racist as people in leftist spaces think they are. Even most Republicans don’t wanna see black people in chains again. Not to mention almost 50% of voters are women.",
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"content": "The point of this post is that the bad initial polls are fake my guy. Part of the whole reason this election was going how it was is a soul crushing propaganda war using heavily manipulated polls. Im willing to bet she still gets crushed in polls despite the energy",
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"content": "It was going this way because Biden was old and nobody was excited for this election. Kamala still pulled better and I haven’t seen energy like this in a long time for a DNC candidate. Even Gen Z has been pretty open their voting for Kamala.\n\nI’m not saying either there’s a definite chance the polls are going to be amazing either. I’m just saying I’m hopeful. But either way the polls are the devil and the energy behind this campaign makes me very hopeful for this election.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Look, the election is going to do what it's going to do. You're still going to have work in the morning, or school, or whatever. Your life. Staying strong means staying rested, so go to sleep. Take some melatonin if you have to, just go to sleep. It will make everything easier, whether that's celebrating a victory, or navigating a loss. Take care of yourself, chat.",
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"content": "The only positive to this if you can even draw one, is that the Republican Party will either go full Nazi and turn off a lot of voters for the next election, or they will go back on the rhetoric as to not alienate new 2024 voters and it will just be another mild 2016 presidency.",
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"content": "There won't be an election in 2028. At least not one without massive voter disenfranchisement. It is completely irrelevant how bad republicans will govern, there won't be a chance to correct this mistake.",
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"content": "Really just depends on what happens. Trump will be too old to run again and even if they get one of his sons to replace him, nobody will carry his charisma.\n\nIt’s like if Kim Jong Un died right now. Who would even replace his stature among his base, even under a dictatorial regime?",
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"content": "Don't have to. The Heritage Foundation will simply control the state directly. There will not be elections. Dissent against the state will be met with violence. You will obey or you will go to the camp.",
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"content": "I think it’s a bit early to 100% predict how extreme the right will be because we simply don’t know. It will be very bad but to what extent? I could really see Trump calming down and just ignoring the people around him. The only thing he cares about is power, not oppressing people. The only time he cares about talking about oppressing people is when it gets him into office.",
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"content": "Sean O'Brien endorses article blaming trans people and “diversity” for factory closures",
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"content": "There are a lot of bad folks in unions. Unions are important, but just being in one doesn’t make you good. Every blue-collar union guy I know is a hardcore trumper. And if he wins and fucks them over, they’ll blame democrats and keep voting for republicans. 🤷♂️",
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"content": "\"How could the Democrats have let Republicans do this?!\"",
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"content": "The ACLU is trying to gut the NLRB like a carp using DEI as an excuse",
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"content": "Unfortunately ",
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"content": "It will be worse, when it's undeniable, it will turn into a religious end times cult. Purity fetish, flagellation and the whole caboodle.",
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"content": "I predict it’ll ecofascism. “We have limited resources as is, we cannot allow these illegals coming here n hogging that shit, we only have enough for our own people”. And the citizens will agree and there’ll be regular mass murders of climate refugees at the borders.",
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"content": "If it goes that way it'll be internal too, all political opposition will be in \"re-education camps\" for free slave labor and thanks to FB and Google they're going to get all of us instantly. So let's not let them take power or hold power.",
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"content": "[Article](https://www.npr.org/2024/07/08/nx-s1-5032737/biden-tells-democrats-stop-speculation)",
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"content": "Don't know why some dipshit downvoted you for this btw, the sub makes no sense.",
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"content": "> the sub makes no sense\n\nliberals, liberals everywhere",
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"content": "Jon Tester may be in better shape than what you’re hearing",
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"content": "I’ve done a lot of phone banking for tester, it’s hard to gauge off something like that of course because it’s not a representative list but there are more trump tester voters than I’d have expected.",
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"content": "Good sign I still think he had a chance he might be the Susan Collin of this cycle",
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"content": "Yea that’s the thing with all these races is the polls have predictive value but because of margins of error there’s a lot of possibilities",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "All this panic over Biden shows just how jumpy we all are. And honestly the polls aren't very good for alternative candidates unless you look at certain ones only.",
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"content": "To be honest we aren't being jumpy enough. The Supreme Court has given the President absolute immunity for 'official acts'. Republicans are openly plotting for a fascist state through 'Project 2025'. And the candidate we rely on is incapable of articulating the threats we face. The stakes are so high, we need a leader who isn't believed to be mentally unfit by [72% of registered voters](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-debate-should-biden-be-running-mental-abilities/).",
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"content": "That’s last weeks news. This weeks news is that changing the candidate could backfire and cost the election potentially. We all heard many different interpretations of the polls but if you actually look at them it’s not like Harris is beating Biden against Trump.",
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"content": "In some of them she is doing precisely that ([July 5-9, 2024, Ipsos Poll](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oLv3PqktVHZ1bKWZJzGct7ADi9qTqJZWpNALJsD_ZiA/edit?gid=1892265243#gid=1892265243)). Kamala Harris would be much better at coherently stating the threat that Trump and the Republicans are to democracy. The remaining debates will be crucial. With Biden as the nominee they will only reinforce how voters already feel about him. That he's not capable of completing another 4-year term.",
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"content": "Thoughts? Some of these are mind-blowing.",
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"content": "I feel like Louisiana, Mississippi and West Virginia are in a neverending competition for overall worst state in the US. Whenever I hear about them it's always for some ridiculously bad reason which makes me think the only people who live there are boomers who don't need to do anything in their lives anymore or people who have no other choice but to live there",
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"content": "Generally accurate. Everyone here is on average old, poor, and talks frequently about \"gettin off du bayou.\" It's like a never-ending mission of trying to escape before you die.",
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"content": "It's like Hades but somehow more hellish",
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"content": "For those of you who think ai art is real art, do you get as much satisfaction killing bots in fortnite as if you kill a real player?",
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"content": "AI is just the latest form of anti-art.\n\nAI using data scraped from the internet it has no rights to use is bad. Everything else is just subjective.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s how I look at it. Companies using it so save money and not hire actual artists is scummy, but if someone is hosting a dnd campaign and wants some cool art, they can use ai to their hearts content. My opinions on the subject really vary on a case by case basis",
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"content": "Yeah that's not morally wrong, but its not art. \n \nGenerative images are never art, but they are products. And you are allowed to like a product.",
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"content": "Do you think photography is art? \n\nPhotography is widely considered a sub genre of art. Its also closely analogous to using AI, even ignoring that a lot of the professional editing tools use AI. \n\nThe \"artist\" uses a tool to capture an image of something they didn't create, they pick the best from a volume, then further manipulate in various ways until they get the correct outcome. \n\nI honestly don't think I care either way or have much of an opinion. I just don't think the answer is definitely no when people can tape bananas to walls and sell it as an art instillation. Art by definition is always subjective, and the most I feel comfortable saying is what isn't art to me might be art to you. So surely it is art in some form?",
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"content": "\n>Do you think photography is art? \n\nAbsolutely. Art requires intent, which is what goes into actual photography. There's framing, shutter speed, exposure, the actual type of lens, or whether or not you even want color. There are a lot of decisions that actually go into taking a photograph with artistic intent.\n\nWhat are the artistic decisions of all those self proclaimed AI artists?",
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"content": "Response to Trump’s pledge to end democracy",
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"content": "how is she instantly so so much better than Biden on stuff like this?? does she have a better and younger team „managing“ her?",
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"content": "She's been working for Biden for 3.5 years now. If I had to guess, she has had plenty of situations to be frustrated about how he wanted to handle things. I'm pretty sure she has a pretty good idea of how she can be a better president.",
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"content": "That and she no doubt knows that Republicans are going to attack her regardless. These guys talk so much, yet older Dems like Biden have tried to keep using the high ground. It doesn't work. Trump broke civility by most means, so why not use their own words? The gift that keeps giving.",
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"content": "No matter what you think about the Biden stuff, the media has been absolutely useless to downright malicious.\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/06/us/trump-felon-definition.html?searchResultPosition=1",
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"content": "Since the debate, it seems clear there is some sort of conspiracy to get Trump elected that goes beyond normal campaign puff and hit pieces. When the NYT is writing apologetic pieces for a literal fascist running for President there has to be something more to it than ratings. Even the people at the NYT have to realize they will be the first sent to the death camps when Trump's in office. Any normal person should be able to look at the two candidates/administrations and see Trump is an existential threat to the world, yet all the NYT, CNN, and other mainstream news agencies are doing is talking about Biden being old. It's like the oligarchs flipped the switch and decided it's time we go fascist.",
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"content": "Or maybe….Biden shat the bed during the debate and all the people who are rightfully afraid of Trump winning…freaked out, and the media are writing about what people are talking about. \n\nDon’t assign malicious intent to what can be assigned to pure incompetence.",
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"content": "It's neither incompetent nor malice, it's simply capitalism. News sites usually do better when they're doing election year coverage. The only thing they were able to cover for the first half of the year was \"Democrats stomp Republicans in special elections\" and \"Trump is on trial/now a felon\". Unfortunately for the American public, special elections don't happen every day/week and there's only so much profit to be made from running \"Donny's a felon, what now?\" headlines. So when Biden corners Trump into doing a very early general election debate and then shits the bed during the debate, the media now has something to cover. Why would Biden convince Trump to have a debate so early if he knew he was going to perform that badly? The media now gets to speculate for a few weeks about Biden's mental health because age does objectively slow down one's mental faculties and there's nothing that the Biden team can credibly say that will completely shut down the speculation without also hurting his campaign. Because the scenarios are:\n\n1. Biden doesn't address the speculation at all. This festers and dooms him at the polls.\n\n2. Biden addresses the speculation by doing a whole lot of events (live, recorded, and with and without teleprompters). This can offset the speculation, but as a whole lot of folks on this subreddit have said, the only way for him to completely eliminate it is to do several live, multi-hour events, without the use of a teleprompter and take questions. For a guy who has an actual full time job (the whole president thing is still a job he has to do), this isn't realistic and any single misspeak, stutter, or redirection is a whole new chance for renewed speculation.\n\n3. Biden takes the cognitive test, setting the whole media into a greater frenzy than ever before. \"Why would you take the cognitive test if you weren't worried?\", \"Are you telling the truth about the results?\", \"Why didn't you have x, y, or z administer the test?\" and all of that is only if the test shows no significant cognitive decline. If it does show cognitive decline the coverage now becomes, \"How could Democrats have elected a senile old man as president in the first place?\", \"Why didn't anyone tell him to step down sooner?\", \"Can we trust the next Democrat to be sound of mind?\"\n\nBiden has opted for the middle path, but the media being what it is, is refusing to give air to any appearance where Biden does not fuck up, because that's what drives engagement and engagement drives profit.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "DON'T LET THEM CHANGE THE NARRATIVE - Vaush",
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"content": "I don't think spending the first part of the video bashing the victim of a gunshot wound helps the narrative that we're better than the right. \n\nI have a pretty dim view of Republicans, especially MAGA heads. But I don't see the point of shit slinging at a murdered bystander. Like what are we trying to say? He deserved it? He was a human being.\n\nEdit: Apparently he was a [retired firefighter who was trying to shield his family from gunfire. ](https://apnews.com/article/trump-rally-victim-fire-chief-11e1aa65e6e45584f49577686d38766e). But yeah, he had an edgy post history so he deserved to have his brains blown out over his family. You guys need to touch grass.",
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"content": "While I sympathize with what you're saying, if someone is going to a Trump rally and supporting Trump, at the very least, if we believe in how dangerous Trump is to US democracy, the level of sympathy you'd feel over their death is lower than someone who doesn't support Trump.",
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"content": "There's a difference between lack of sympathy and justification of murder. The latter of which I'm seeing in these comments. I'm even being called a fascist sympathizer for lightly pushing back against the victim bashing. \n\nIt was fucked up when conservatives dug up George Floyd's history to justify his murder. I think it is kind of hypocritical for the left to do the same here. It's literally what D is doing.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "That is never ever, ever, ever gonna happen. Not in a thousand years. The DNC is far too arrogant and hate you way too much to ever consider doing such a thing. How dare you, plebeian, ever tell them what to do. They know better than you and always will, according to them. \n\nY'all need to start making peace with the idea of a second Trump administration, because that's most likely what we're gonna get. You have the Biden administration and Democratic establishment to thank for that. It's because of them we lost everything. ",
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"content": "It’s crazy how you think the DNC would never consider it while they have been publicly considering it.\n\nWho do you think the DNC is exactly?",
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"content": "Two words: Hillary Clinton",
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"content": "You think the DNC is Hillary Clinton?",
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"content": "No. I was trying to remind you of 2016.",
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"content": "And again I ask, who do you think the DNC is?\n\nIts members are not a secret.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "LET US BE UNBURDENED BY WHAT HAS BEEN",
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"content": "Have an ice cream jack...",
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"content": "Like I said elsewhere, let’s give Joe Biden a train and he can tour America promoting transit. We can call it rail force one.",
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"content": "Man unironically deserves a break. Let him retire in peace, jack!",
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"content": "Clooney has fallen, I repeat Clooney has fallen",
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"content": "I honestly wondering how much pull he has because this is not first time I heard him being upset with Biden becoming national news",
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"content": "iirc he's a pretty big donor",
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"content": "It be fucking hilarious if the DNC we butch about putting neo liberals in power is just George Clooney, like imagine going into a dark cave to find the master mind and the man that spins the chair around is just George Clooney",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-documents-case-dismissed-by-federal-judge/",
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"content": "So tired boss......\n\n\n.....so is Biden gonna do anything about the Courts if he gets back in or nah? ",
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"content": ">so is Biden gonna do anything\n\nNope. Not if it means rocking the boat or taking a risk. That's the problem with only having elitist bourgeoisie representing the lower class: they know they'll be fine as long as they get to stay wealthy. They'll be the last in line for the internment camps so they can comfortably gamble that if things get too scary they can buy their way out and run. But if they make things too equal, they lose their advantage.",
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"content": "That's what I figured 😭\n\n\nI'm dog tired, boss",
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"content": "Trump's 'body odor' leaves people 'gagging' as Republican says 'you need a mask'",
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"content": "Laura must not have agreed to take over diaper duty",
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"content": "Who needs a bidet amiright\n\nI'm so sorry",
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"content": "Wait, so Trump hasn't been talking about how much he misses Biden but his bidet??",
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"content": "When republicans bitch about how making Kamala the nominee is anti democratic they seem to forget that we did vote for her when we voted for Biden. Also it’s massive cope. Republicans are scared. ",
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"content": "Trump is in shambles. No one remembers the shooting, and his legacy will forever be: the only man in American history who could lose the presidency to a biracial woman from California.",
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"content": "Also the only guy to win a term then lose twice",
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"content": "a better legacy to have than Henry Clay tho tbh",
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"content": "A momentary break from the political doomerism. Sydney (my city) is just about to open the next stage of its new metro train network, something that will seriously improve the livability of this city. It's something im genuinely proud to see my country accomplish.",
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"content": "This is huge. Even though Australia has many of the same problems as the US when it comes to car dependency, since it only has a few major cities, it will only take a few major improvements such as this to have a huge impact on the country's transit development.",
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"content": "Everything is so damn isolated in Australia, maybe you could reasonably claim that it's actually worse in that regard than the US.",
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"content": "Yeah, well Australia has the population of California spread across a continent. They do have like 5 cities though that make up a big portion of the population, so if only those cities improve the average urban planning improves significantly.",
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"content": "Shapirbros in Shambles. Walz Warriors stay winning. ",
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"content": "THE GOOD TIMELINE",
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"content": "DID HE GET CHOSEN? IS IT OFFICIAL??",
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"content": "Yes!",
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"content": "[https://youtu.be/Q7i9Z-veBd4?si=ngRq-Cl2GbBeHBCf](https://youtu.be/Q7i9Z-veBd4?si=ngRq-Cl2GbBeHBCf)\n\n \nHe basically says it wasn't bad at all and thinks maybe Biden is a bit sharper than people think he is right now. He puts him in the same league as Mitch McConnel who, despite how much we all dislike him, knows how politics works better than most.\n\n \nThoughts?",
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"content": "The reason Biden's age is such a massive liability, isn't because of the Media but because most of the Electorate find it to be self-evident and irrefutable.\n\nIt's really disheartening how many Liberals are incapable of wrapping Their minds around this.",
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"content": "Self evident? Fox news and other news sources like CNN and such have been creating the narrative for years. It's the only thing they talk about, creating the narrative that Biden is too old. After the debate, how many stories have you seen about the Epstein files that confirmed trump's name was in it? Almost none.\n\nThe New York times let an opinion writer publish an article about not voting: he's a Christian nationalist working with maga, and voted in both 2020 and 2022. Their own journalists have come forward that there is pressure from higher up to write negative stories about Biden because one of the higher ups is being a petty lil bitch the NYT didn't get an interview with the president",
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"content": "This is why Biden shouldn't have ran again because there was no outcome where this wasn't gonna happen.",
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"content": "CAIR poll on Muslim vote",
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"content": "They are making the wrong choice, but come on. You have to have A LITTLE sympathy for them. Joe Biden’s actions caused him to lose their vote. \n\nIt’s the sociological imagination, like Vaush talks about.",
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"content": "Literally, blaming Muslim voters is incredibly idiotic",
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"content": "Blaming Muslims, Arabs, progressives, and leftists is exactly what the democratic party and a swath of liberal concern trolls plan to do if the election is lost. Anything but take responsibility",
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"content": "They probably going to do that regardless win or loss , and mention nothing at all of the white male demographic",
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"content": "Liberals make the same mistake conservatives do in assuming everyone shares their shit sentiments. It's a complete myth that the Democratic base is just as racist as Biden is and won't vote for Kamala if they were to stop unconditionally supporting Israel in genocide. But of course they get all smug and condescending and insist ignoring the genocide until after the election *must* be done to secure the election\n\nI'm so ready for the election to be over so I can go back to bagging on Democrat policy without having some dweeb lecture me about the imminent threat of fascism as if the Democrats didn't help march us to this situation in the first place",
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"content": "I have seen people NOW use Arab voting patterns as a justification to back ethnic cleansing, a thing that when polled the general party is against. I genuinely think some people look at voters as means to their ends instead of the politicians",
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"content": "Classic cult behavior. I mean they'll even say it out loud: \"if you aren't with us, you're against us\"",
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"content": "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ik5oVv9ug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ik5oVv9ug) \n\n[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4757918-joe-biden-donald-trump-swing-states-bloomberg-morning-consult-survey/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4757918-joe-biden-donald-trump-swing-states-bloomberg-morning-consult-survey/)\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/a63q7js44zad1.png?width=628&format=png&auto=webp&s=647b3e1c6e2e3ee9886785133017fdb24c96823d\n\nCan anyone comment as to the authenticity and tract record of this particular poll? I'll take the good news regardless",
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"content": "It’s one poll. The net aggregate still has him well down in all of those states. None of this is good news lol. Even here’s he’s only ahead in Michigan and Wisconsin",
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"content": "ok what if he continues to poll better from here on out? what would you think?",
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"content": "Polls are evil and unreliable individually. If the trend keeps up, though, then I’d put some weight on it.",
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"content": "Disclaimer: I am not advocating for violence against Donald Trump nor am I saying that Donald Trump “deserves harm”, or advocate for any type of political violence. I am rather discussing a hypothetical scenario.\n\nI think if Trump had died, Republicans would actually be in a pretty bad place.\n\nSure on one hand, Trump’s death would have turned him into a martyr but one has to consider the fact that Trump has been for the last eight years been the glue keep the Republican Party united between the more establishment old guard and the radical populists. \n\nIf Trump died, Republicans would be forced to have a convention and unlike in a scenario where Biden drops out (where Kamala is the likely candidate as Biden’s successor) it is unknown who exactly it should be who succeeds Trump. Republicans would be faced with a leadership crisis.\n\n\n",
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"content": "Pretty much. To quote myself from earlier, *”Martyr for sure, but a body can’t run.”*\n\nThe over-reliance on Trump would backfire as there isn’t really an established successor. \n\nDoes he even have a VP candidate? I know Pence fucked off and put distance between them, but just like Biden’s, it’s like one doesn’t exist.\n\nAnyway, without that glue holding things together because it’s All In on this one guy, it likely wouldn’t look good on their chances.",
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"content": "Granted Trump being martyred would greatly help Republicans in House and Senate races.",
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"content": "Best they could do is invoke his name like “it’s what he would’ve wanted.” I suppose. Just slap his name on stuff and hope his base buys it and votes for you.\n\nBut if multiple people are invoking that ideal from clearly different angles, grasping for clout and power? Who knows lol",
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"content": "Who do you think they would run in 2024. If I had to guess, they would have pushed Nikki Haley since she polled second behind Trump and has the best chance of uniting both factions.",
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"content": "20 people have died in the strike",
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"content": "what even is the point of a strike like this? To make the Ukrainian people even more sure in their belief that there can be no peace with Russia?\n\nLike, who the fuck still thinks morale bombing works in the 21st century?",
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"content": "Fascists are bad at war. Constantly waste resource to genocide people rather than winning because they care way more about killing then winning.\n\n \nLike Israel should've conquered all of Gaza by now, they are moving slower than Russia against an enemy far far weaker than Ukraine. \n\n\n\nThey haven't because they spend all their bombs killing civilians.",
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"content": "Tbf, I think we need to consider how different war is now. With the advent of the internet and various means of improvised weapons, controlling a rebellious populace is nearly impossible now. You pretty much have to remove people from the territory you want to take before you can take it. Otherwise you’ll be dealing with ‘terrorist’ attacks in that region for the next 20 years, or longer. Especially if you have global enemies, which basically every imperialist power does.",
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"content": "An open convention can only mean that Pelosi and co. want to push their own candidate, they dont want Kamala, they never did, they dont agree with the majority of his barely progressive policies and they see kamala as an extension of those policies. They are going to push someone to the right of Joe. All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nEdit: these link didnt post for some[ reason](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893)\n\nEdit 2: The vaush clip i wanted to include isnt working so yeaaaaaah . . .",
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"content": ">All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nDid everyone on this subreddit suddenly become a Joe Biden superfan?? What the hell is this comparison lmao\n\nBiden's old as shit, and he's lost confidence of the majority of Dems because he cannot speak beyond what's on a teleprompter. Good President /=/ good candidate.\n\nKamala's the only logical pick, and if it goes to an open convention it's gonna be a nominal contest where Kamala sweeps and projects party unity.",
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"content": " the article linked proves that you’re wrong, if they wanted Kamala they would have started pushing for her to replace Joe not for a new roster of candidates in an open convention",
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"content": "I think you need to re-read the article, because it's stating exactly what I said.\n\n>The discussion in that meeting of the California delegation, which includes 40 members, took place in the Capitol on July 10, at least partly focused on the complicated next steps for the Democratic Party if Biden left the ticket. **And they specifically talked about the potential political downsides of party elites quickly crowning the vice president as the next nominee**, according to four people familiar with the discussion, granted anonymity to discuss private conversations.\n\n>**Pelosi was one of several California Democrats who stressed that an uncompetitive process would turn off voters,** according to those four people.\n\n>The concern wasn’t about Harris’ strengths as a candidate — and in fact, **several people made clear Harris needed to be the party’s next pick — but instead centered on worries that party bosses were choosing the president, rather than the party’s base.**\n\nHarris is the very clear and presumptive nominee, but outright stating that or assuming it looks bad.\n\nIt'll be an open convention but it's gonna be a landslide Harris, there's no indication in the article or anywhere else that there's a more preferable option. They're doing it because it is optically a democratic thing to do, and looks better than outright annointing Harris, despite both paths ultimately ending up with her as nominee.",
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"content": "If we believe the Dems that their base is black women, Kamala is the overwhelming favorite. And I seem to remember her being very impressive until she had to cuck out for Biden and not appear like an angry black woman in the Pence VP debate.",
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"content": "Do black women even support Kamala? Because Kamala is a (half-)black woman doesn't mean black women automatically support Kamala. ",
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"content": "1) in America, half black is black. Ask Obama\n2) look at Obama's black vote percentage",
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"content": "Is Obama the example to use here? Why not Corey Booker or Harris herself who lost to their non-white counterparts AMONG BLACK VOTERS. I and my family are Black Obama voters. None of us supported either candidate. We aren't the exception, that was the trend. \n\nI'm not saying Black voters won't pick her over Trump but Black candidates =/= Black votes. I'm sure you weren't surprised by the lack Black support for Ben Carson.",
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"content": "Look, the election is going to do what it's going to do. You're still going to have work in the morning, or school, or whatever. Your life. Staying strong means staying rested, so go to sleep. Take some melatonin if you have to, just go to sleep. It will make everything easier, whether that's celebrating a victory, or navigating a loss. Take care of yourself, chat.",
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"content": "Trump won but you Americans shouldn't give up. Fight him every step of the fucking way. Don't give him a second of calm. Every attempt to repeal your democracy should be resisted. As a South African I hope you guys make it out okay.",
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"content": "There doesn't even seem to be a popular vote win. Who should fight? Seems like it is the majority's wish..... This is so fucked up.",
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"content": "No. Fuck that. Fuck *everything* about that. \n\nWe are not going gently into this situation. We have to thrash, and scream, and fight at *every* corner. \n\nWe give them **NOTHING**.",
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"content": "For all you not watching the speech rn, Biden is not stepping down, and he referred to Kamala as “vice president trump”",
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"content": "Every one is gonna focus on that now instead of every thing else he said 🤦♂️",
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"content": "Yes. This is how politics works. Howard Dean was denied a shot at the white House because he made a funny shout once.",
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"content": "I think he was already doomed at that point. He was a progressive insurgent struggling after moderates had coalesced around a more mainstream candidate. We’ve seen that story before and since.",
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"content": "[https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/contest-for-president-still-up-for-grabs/](https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/contest-for-president-still-up-for-grabs/)\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/tbqabbfp45cd1.png?width=470&format=png&auto=webp&s=202a4e6fc24438a55efde3614f3c790e0848e4c7\n\n>With just days to go before the start of the Republican National Convention, President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump continue to be closely matched among registered voters in both a head-to-head matchup and a multicandidate field. **Biden’s support remains relatively unchanged from last month despite the view of many Americans that he lacks the mental fitness to serve as president. However, Biden outperforms Trump on whether either candidate has the character to be President of the United States, and by more than two to one, Americans are more concerned about a president who lies than they are about someone who is too old to serve. Both candidates remain flawed in the eyes of Americans, and majorities say neither should be on the ballot. Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Gretchen Whitmer do not improve the Democrats’ chances against Trump.**\n\n>\n\n>Among registered voters nationally including leaners, Biden receives 50% to 48% in the two-way presidential matchup. Two percent are undecided. Biden and Trump were tied (49% to 49%) in last month’s pre-debate NPR/PBS News/Marist survey.\n\n>Among voters who have an unfavorable impression of both candidates, four percentage points separate Trump (47%) and Biden (43%). Trump was previously +7 percentage points over Biden among voters who dislike both Biden and Trump.\n\n>Trump (43%) and Biden (42%) are competitive among registered voters in a multicandidate field which includes Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (8%), Cornel West (3%), Jill Stein (2%), and Chase Oliver (<1%). Two percent are undecided. In June, Trump (42%) was also +1 percentage point against Biden (41%) with Kennedy (11%) as the only other candidate with support in double digits.\n\n>Among those who say they definitely plan to vote in November’s election, Biden (45%) and Trump (45%) are tied in this multicandidate field.\n\nThoughts? polls are the devil still?",
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"content": "They both still have plenty of time to fuck things up worse",
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"content": "or make things better....",
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"content": "Fingers crossed!",
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"content": "I predict the first few polls for Kamala are gonna be ugly, probably not Biden Bad, but not the landslide we are currently feeling with our hopium high. Do not worry. Her numbers are gonna bump Big after the DNC and just in general there are a *LOT* of good signs right now. ",
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"content": "Very true.\n\n \ni know people here don't like Allan Lichtman but i will put it out there that although we just lost the incumbency key, we still got the no contest key and thats likely to remain in our favor at this point. So we can still win this according to his model. \n\n \nI think Biden with his last remaining time should try as hard as he can to broker a ceasefire in Gaza. if he manages that then.... wow.",
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"content": "I did not watch Litchman's video after Biden dropped out, but based on his previous streams, I believe we do actually have the incumbency key according to Lichtman because Kamala is the incumbent VP. His words, not mine. \n\nSecondly, don't treat the keys like gospel like Lichtman. The keys are a useful model, but like any scientific model it doesn't reflect reality perfectly. Litchman, despite being a scientist, pretends like his model is a flawless gift from the election gods. Easily his biggest flaw as a commentator: unbridled arrogance.",
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"content": "i don't treat it like gospel but just one more arrow in our quiver of things telling us information about how the election may go lets say. and eh i don't see him as that arrogant, he will take criticisms and explore them adequately.",
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"content": "I agree that we should pay attention to the keys, it is valuable information. The keys indicate an open convention is a bad idea (contest key) and we should rally around Kamala. Professor Lichtman himself has been saying this for a while now since everyone was discussing Biden dropping out. I agree with this take.\n\nWhere I disagree is him being so obstinate about Biden's \"debate performance\" not mattering in the grand scheme of things. I still can't wrap my head around how a guy who is a smart freaking historian would be unable to realize how catastrophic Biden was",
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"content": "Lichtman is a joke.\n\nHe's been pounding the table telling everyone that Biden was the best candidate just because his shitty model favors an incumbent. He's clueless.",
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"content": "To be fair, people on this sub were also saying Biden was the best candidate and they're blowing him hard right now because \"he put his ego aside\". We all know he was forced out, but I guess some people on here like fellating ghouls.",
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"content": "yeah, i really don't understand all the people that are so resistant to criticizing a political candidate, especially when you have a chance to replace him with a better one and give yourself a chance to win the election. Maybe they're just in denial, I don't know.\n\nto be fair to the people on this sub, they aren't professionals whose entire brand is based around understanding and predicting presidential elections like Lichtman. He's an arrogant hack. Even now that Biden stepped down and it's plain for everyone to see how wrong he was, he's still appearing on TV trying to tell people what to do. If it were up to this guy, old man Biden would still be the candidate.",
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"content": "IT HAS NEVER BEEN THIS JOEVER - Vaush",
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"content": "The DNC will only be remembered for rolling the red carpet out for fascism and Blue MAGA BNMW cultists are just as complicit.",
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"content": "blue no matter who",
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"content": "This is actually insane. I actually don’t know what the goal is here other than hurt the dems. \n",
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"content": "I'm surprised to see Biden ride or dies on Vaush's subreddit. He'd ban you immidiately from chat for saything the stupid stuff you're saying on here.",
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"content": "as if everyone wasn’t shouting down the people who had a problem with biden’s age before",
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"content": "Do you think FPTP might secretly be a good voting system after all? Reform UK got 14.3% of the vote and only got a few seats.",
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"content": "Nope, it's still a bad system. The way to combat Reform isn't to have an undemocratic voting system, you combat Reform by actually improving the lives of the economically disadvantaged people who primarily vote for them - thoe vast majority of those people will have once been Labour voters under the New Labour government. Just look at the places Reform won; Ashfield, Boston and Skegness, Clacton. Those places are, for lack of a better term, absolute shit holes. Reform has given those people an easy answer, - the cause of their situation is immigrants.",
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"content": ">Just look at the places Reform won; Ashfield, Boston and Skegness, Clacton. Those places are, for lack of a better term, absolute shit holes.\n\nYep, this is undoubtedly the case. Clacton is the poster child of British deprived areas. If you want to see poverty tourism videos in Britain, Clacton usually comes up. It's a 96% white constituency, so it's no real surprise they elected Nigel Farage to be their MP. When Nigel Farage stood as a candidate there, I knew him being elected was a foregone conclusion, *of course they would elect him!* \n\nWhile Nigel Farage gave those people a boogeyman - immigrants; What immigrant wants to move to Clacton of all places? It's 96% white! What immigrant is there? When most immigrants move to the UK, they typically move to big cities such as London, Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle, Edinburgh etc. They don't move to Clacton, they've never even heard of it! The region is chronically underfunded and needs heavy investment. And it has only been made worse by Tory austerity. It wasn't Labour's fault Clacton wasn't doing well these past 14 years, because the past 14 years the UK was ruled by a Conservative government. It has yet to be seen what Labour's government would entail, and whether or not they will make the effort to invest in these places (they should btw). It's still extremely early days.",
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"content": "Clacton is what Vaush thinks 90% of the UK is like the poverty levels there are equivalent to Detroit (in reality, Clacton is just… Clacton…)",
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"content": "Donald Trump suffers shock poll in Florida",
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"content": "At least in North Carolina, this kind of swing isn't really going to matter. Our districts are so gerrymandered and there is so much fuckery at the polls that Democrats need a significant lead to actually pull enough votes that Dems could win in the general.\n\nThat being said, I have noticed quite a few people who were galvanized by the recent events. The Trumpers are more sure than ever to vote, but also so are the Democrats I know, and many Independents like me have also seen these events as more evidence they need to get the hell off their ass and vote.",
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"content": "You can’t gerrymander statewide races. The governor in NC has been a shield to protect what’s left of public schools. He has also been able to prevent some pretty extreme legislation and finally got Medicaid expansion. His leadership saved a lot of lives during COVID as well. Hopefully everyone gets to the polls in November and keeps maniac Mark Robinson out of power.\n\nThe problem for Biden is he needs to start pulling ahead in some polling. I’m concerned that he can’t seem to reach 50% in anything. It’s looking like yes, Trump may have a ceiling, but Biden’s ceiling may be even lower due to the cognitive failures and inability to campaign. It isn’t enough to lose a close race to Trump and do your goodest. This is a winner take all kind of year.",
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"content": "> You can’t gerrymander statewide races.\n\nI'd argue that the state borders are a rather clean example of gerrymandering, but I think people would get upset at that.",
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"content": "BREAKING: Someone just shot at Trump at a rally and grazed his ear. It’s all over the news ",
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"content": "Vaush on Vacation and this fucking happens",
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"content": "That man is not allowed any vacations anymore.\n\nIt was funny the first time world shaking events happened, but this is the fourth or fifth time, and it's getting really scary now.",
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"content": "https://youtu.be/E0-10Rj_XcM?si=yy5j1FqgaLyx7Pg0\n\nSome big names among the dems are concocting a secret plan to hopefully counter trump and his project 2025 should he win.\n\nOf course we should still get out and vote to stop him but it looks like they are cooking something jic. ",
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"content": "Haha. Democrats have no answer to MAGA taking action other than \"vote blue no matter who,\" and \"DNC needs you to donate $5 before the end of today\" emails. If Trump wins I have no faith in the Democratic party being able to effectively put up a fight for any length of time. Voting for Biden is important don't get me wrong, but the Democrats are nothing but a necessary stop gap to give this country time to sort its shit out before the fascists takeover.",
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"content": "The fact that Nancy pelosi is still running the show says it all",
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"content": "Isn’t Hakeem Jeffries the house leader now?",
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"content": "I don’t want to get my hopes up but I just want the current will he drop discussions to end",
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"content": "god I hate the online left. Biden is the most effective lefty president of the last 50 years. He stopped our wars, got inflation and the economy back on track, made a big turn towards better climate change policy and united the west militarily. But we cannot unite behind him, because he isn't a good speaker.\n\nIt reminds me of Al Gore. Saving the world? No, let's vote for the corrupt warlord drunkard whose tax slashes for the rich we're still paying back. Because he is a better speaker.\n\nMeanwhile, the right unites behind Trump.\n\nYou guys suck ass and you're the reason we can't have good governance.",
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"content": "Don't forget that the last two elections the left screamed and yelled about how the DNC rig the primary but now it's okay to not even have a primary and just appoint somebody as the nominee.",
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"content": "Huh? Appointing Biden as the nominee is what the DNC did this year and most voices I've heard talking about it from the left aren't very happy about it",
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"content": "This sub needs another liberal purge holy shit.",
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"content": "People don't share my opinion so we need to purge them",
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"content": "Hi, I posted like 2 days ago about how I was at the service desk working with my older coworker when a psycho Trumper came up and started recording her, yelling at her, doxxing her, etc, and claiming he would make her famous. I was, unfortunately, with a customer at another register so I couldn't go over to see what was going on. Well, because of him, there were very famous videos making the rounds on reddit, tiktok, and twitter, and libsoftiktok made a post about her which reached millions of views. Our store got so many calls harassing our coworkers and managers. Today, she got fired, the official statement on twitter is that she “didn't represent Home Depot's values”. \n\nYou mean your political values? Your doxxing, harassment, and stalking values?\n\nI'm honestly not comfortable working somewhere that is more okay with firing an employee for a political opinion that they didn't care that a presidential candidate got shot than protecting her from actual crimes against her. But unfortunately with my husband being out of work, I can't just quit with the reason being that they fired someone when they were a victim of a crime.\n\nShe is, in fact, getting legal help for this, but I won't post the proof in case someone tracks down that posts and harasses THAT person, too.\n\nFuck Trumpers. No one thinks it was necessary to do this when she did nothing to that customer at her job. I am so over having to walk on eggshells to not get literally stalked. ",
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"content": "I say she should sue that MAGA Asshole for Slander or Defamation",
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"content": "Ya I guess wishing the shooter was a better shot is a great thing to say. That's the same as saying you wish the guy that hit Nancy Pelosi's Husband in the head with a hammer had a stronger arm. It's not okay to say these things. But hypocrites will be hypocrites. ",
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"content": "thank you obvious burner account for posting the same thing over and over, for sure that'll work",
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"content": "‘Not acceptable in a democracy’: UN expert condemns lengthy Just Stop Oil sentences",
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"content": "5 years in prison. Jesus Christ. And I thought the 12 months in prison a German protestor recently received was extreme.",
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"content": "In many European countries authorities cracked down on climate protesters using laws adopted to fight fucking organized crime.\n\n>Germany has increasingly cracked down on climate protests as they have grown more disruptive, with police using laws designed to fight organised crime to tap phones, raid homes, freeze bank accounts and place activists in preventive detention. \n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/12/threats-to-germanys-climate-campaigners-fuelled-by-politicians-rhetoric-says-activist\n\nLike what the fuck. Not really beating the allegations of how state will use any security powers it gets to do evil.",
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"content": "It’s like the RICO charges against the stop cop city protesters in GA",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "These numbers are dogshit. \n\nSource https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1813620217614069929?t=S_51lm4MCMBHAQMNAnzdhQ&s=19 ",
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"content": "Never stop dooming. Not even for a second.",
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"content": "As long as you're using that doom as motivation to get to the voting booth we're cool\n\nThis shit ain't over 'til it's over and I'm going down swinging damnit",
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"content": "Going off the vibes from doomers on the left, they are doomering themselves into apathy and mental breakdowns. We have objectively good news that reflects the reality that a majority of people hate Trump and the attempt did basically nothing for him, but we still have people twisting it into a negative.\n\nIt's insane that the random subs that end up the front page of R/ all are doing better work than lefty subs. What a 180 compared to 2016 discourse.",
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"content": "Is the gas leak in TYT ever gonna get solved? Because I think they went across a point of no return...",
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"content": "No you don’t actually have to ever hand it to the nazis",
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"content": "there's a difference between \"handing it to them\" and Acknowledging the the obvious optics of a situation. Normies see Trump looking Heroic and they love it. Biden wouldn't have had the sauce to take that picture.",
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"content": "There is indeed a difference. Saying \"one more credit to Trump\" is *literally* handing it to him, though.",
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"content": "Dude's aim was \"dangerously\" bad. \"Terrible.\"",
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"content": "I don’t think someone who is so bad at shooting it’s dangerous could make the shot he did.",
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"content": "I mean he did kill someone, presumably unintentionally.",
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"content": "[Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch](https://youtu.be/hLpgxry542M?si=8X00siQFFkE-MHCq)",
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"content": "Well to be fair it was a very clip-worthy moment. It's really funny he played it up like that",
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"content": "He's gotta do these bits on purpose, right?",
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"content": "Of course. I mean as opposed to what, right? Either he does it on purpose because he intuits the irony of what he’s saying and the obvious ways in which it’s untrue (the only conclusion imo), or he’s like, accidentally going “mask off” for a second and suddenly speaking in a way that’s deeply internally inconsistent (the silly conclusion)\n\nDoubt the guy who reposted (I’m not familiar) even thought it was the second one. More likely that he gets that it’s intended as the first one but sees a different irony in it, i.e. that Vaush has kind of sold his activist soul to the establishment Dems",
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"content": "Committed to the bit.",
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"content": "It’s Joever for Biden. It’s never been more Joever. Trump’s gotten exactly what he wanted.",
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"content": "And he also got to save money getting piercings for when he declared himself Emperor in 6 years and starts hanging jewelry from himself like Xerxes. Everythings coming up Donny",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Me after reading about what's happening in Gaza right now",
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"content": "Can I ask you a serious question; how did you feel or what were your thoughts at the time about the last 10+ years of civil war in Syria? \n\nI’m not trying to make a “what aboutism” argument or any argument at all, I’m just curious about what people who are aware and upset by the horrors happening in Gaza felt about Syria over the previous decade.",
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"content": "I think the death of 16,000 kids in one year is very unique and upsetting for any normal person",
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"content": "Absolutely.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "We are so fucking back",
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"content": "And you too can be drinking Right Wing Fascist tears if you suck it up and vote to not put a Dictator back in the white house this November. \n \nThe alternative is life getting even more suck than it is now.",
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"content": "Oh, it's not so much Leftists not voting you gotta worry about over here. It's the normies, Independents and swing voters who will sit out and not vote for Biden. 72-80% of Americans think Biden shouldn't be running and isn't mentally competent to be President according to post-debate polling*. I guarantee you most of those Americans aren't Leftists or Tankies. We Leftists aren't THAT big. The Charlie White type American citizens will be the main ones sitting out.\n\n\n*Even before the debate around 2/5 of Americans questioned Biden’s mental competence to run for a second term for about the past year.",
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"content": "While I agree with you, then it’s up to us to get the word out about him so we can get more independents to the polls. I just signed up for a phone bank this weekend with a local nonprofit. Can’t wait to talk to a bunch of “independents” about why anarchoBidenism is the way to go. lol (j/k but not about signing up to phone bank for Biden).",
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"content": "I know all the talk right now is focused on Biden's mental faculties, but let's not forget that on the other side there's a 78-year-old fat guy.\n\nWhat happens if he croaks? What does the GOP do? What do the Dems do? Does this encourage the Dems to drop Buden since both sides would then have a new candidate?\n",
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"content": "The republicans lose badly. While the dems have viable Biden replacements the runner ups to trumps primary were all terrible. He doesn’t even have a hand picked Vp to replace him.",
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"content": "Nah. Haley would beat Biden easily. The polls are dated by if there were a debate the 2 of them it would be ugly. \n\nhttps://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/haley-vs-biden",
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"content": "🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢",
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"content": "The \"DEI expert\" in the byline is icing on the cake lmao",
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"content": "NO FUCKING way is this real. lmfaooo\n\nEdit: It is indeed real, but they already deleted it. It was that bad. But how'd it pass a first lookover with that headline!?!? \n[https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaunharper/2024/07/13/will-surviving-gunfire-be-donald-trumps-next-appeal-to-black-voters/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaunharper/2024/07/13/will-surviving-gunfire-be-donald-trumps-next-appeal-to-black-voters/)",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "\"At least 70 pro-Trump conspiracists are election officials in key battleground counties — and they are poised to make a giant mess on Election Day\"",
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"content": "What can be done regarding these 70?",
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"content": "Big Rock tm",
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"content": "so i've been educating myself on the capitalist and socialist death count debate and this is what i came up with.\n\nso first the definition of capitalism: capitalism is the mode of production of which the ownership of the means of production is privately owned by the few/capitalist. the capitalist utilize the ownership of the means of production to get people to work for them. the worker doesn't own the means of production and has no say in the control of the means of production.\n\nthe definition of state planned socialism (historically most socialist countries): socialism is the mode of production of which the means of production is owned communally/publicly/by the workers. the workers communally selects what they want to produce/ how they want to produce it. the workers communally selects what state plans they want for the economy. all wealth and resources is equally distributed to all workers. socialism is based on need. if people do not need something it will not be produced or at least not produced that much.\n\nso how do we know if capitalism caused or ignored a preventable death: capitalism is private ownership of the means of production. if the private owners of the means of production kills somebody or ignores a preventable death that they can save it is added to the capitalist death toll.\n\nso how do we know if socialism caused or ignored a preventable death: socialism is public ownership of the means of production. if the public/working class owners of the means of production collectively kills somebody or collectively ignores a preventable death that they can save it is added to the socialist death toll.\n\nwhy the black book of communism is silly:\n\nnazi deaths are counted as victims of communism. nazis weren't socialist. the nazis killied and imprisoned socialist/communist. in fact they privatize industry that used to be public.\ncounting non births as deaths. so what this book does is if in a country that used to 4 children birth rate and dropped to 2 children birth rate after a socialist revolution and those 2 other children that wouldve been born is now considered a \"victim of communism\" this is silly you can't be a victim of anything if you don't exist because you can't experience anything to be a victim.\ntwo of the authors admit to having lower estimates\npulling numbers out of thin air\ncounting pragmatists as \"victims of communism\"\nmain author being obsessed with reaching 100 million\nnoam chomsky stated that if we were to say the same about india. 1917 through 1979 already 100 million people would have died. an argument to this is that india's constitution calls itself socialist. my counter argument is this wiki paragraph\n\nSocialism in India is a political movement founded early in the 20th century, as a part of the broader movement to gain Indian independence from colonial rule. The movement grew quickly in popularity as it espoused the causes of India's farmers and labourers against the zamindars, the princely class and the landed gentry. After independence and until the early 1990s, socialism shaped some economic and social policies of the Indian government, although they mostly followed the principles of dirigisme.\\1])\\2]) After this period, India moved towards a more market-based economy. Though, India is officially declared a socialist state as per the constitution.\n\nso they half assed socialism and instead just practiced dirigisme. which if you don't know what is dirigisme. dirigisme is a form of capitalism but just lots of state intervention(it's a bit more complicated than that but you catch my drift). just because someone calls themselves something it doesn't mean they are. india wasn't socialist. so the 100 million people that died was do to capitalism.\n\nalso 41 million people dies from preventable diseases a year. every 10 years 410,000,000 people dies from a preventable death. from 1950 to 2024 we could've saved 3 billion people. we can 100% prevent these deaths. but the rich chose not to. because it isn't profitable.\n\nwhile the cuban government is going out their way to help people from covid for free or nearly for free.\n\nhere are some videos:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClLKm8Q8Pns\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5LMxXC8qWg&t\n\nEdit: I was being gracious here the real tally exceeds 10 billion",
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"content": "I feel like nothing useful comes out of the \"Capitalism/Communism has killed more\" discourse.",
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"content": "Yeah like its kind of impossible to argue, like any fact you present about the current capitalist reality doesn't imply anything valid for how your hypothetical socialist reality would behave.",
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"content": ">Yeah like its kind of impossible to argue, like any fact you present about the current capitalist reality doesn't imply anything valid for how your hypothetical socialist reality would behave.\n\nWhy there are so many rightists here socialism is for the greater good problems are solved for the benefits of everyone else not profit",
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"content": "Oh sweet christ you may actually be a teenager holy shit. Look so I don't know how to break it to you, but once things exist in the real world and not just theory land they suddenly stop working perfectly with no flaws or issues.\n\nJust because the exceedingly vague idea of socialism you've conjured in your head perfectly solves all social issues with no negative externalities doesn't necessarily mean it would in the real world.",
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"content": ">Oh sweet christ you may actually be a teenager holy shit. Look so I don't know how to break it to you, but once things exist in the real world and not just theory land they suddenly stop working perfectly with no flaws or issues.\n\nNope graduating this year already have a part time job and hoping to quit it to join a co op. Speaking of Co ops this leads greatly onto our next subject.\n\n>Just because the exceedingly vague idea of socialism you've conjured in your head perfectly solves all social issues with no negative externalities doesn't necessarily mean it would in the real world.\n\n1. Worker co ops in real life already perform better than traditional capitalist firms handles external problems better has a happier workforce and overall a fairer and more democratic workplace. That's why I plan to quit my part time for a co op because this part time job is authoritarian hell.\n\n2. Even though I acknowledge that the past experiments are state capitalism rather than any kind of leftism. (I just want to emphasize I am playing devils advocate here) those nations were still able to provide a better quality of life than capitalist ones evidenced by several peer reviewed studies. So even the so called \"failed communism\" was better than this hell hole we find ourselves in.",
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"content": "Oh my god your real this is so fucking funny please keep going.",
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"content": "TIL people dying under an oppressive system is funny",
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"content": "Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/13/2024-election-campaign-updates-biden-trump-rally/#link-E6S6KETYXZGRBPKBRXNMAL3RAU\n\nYes I know Vaush is talking about it on stream. I want to open up third chat.",
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"content": "This is just the worst, worst timeline we're all in, truly, someone bring that picture of Vaush back from the first few minutes of the Biden-Trump 2024 debate here.",
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"content": "Not *the* worst tbf\n\nThe worst would be if Trump kicked the bucket. If that happened an orgy of violence for months would be all but inevitable",
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"content": "When it comes to the election itself though, wouldn't Trump being absent be advantageous? The Republicans would have a hard time fielding someone with Trump's hardline support.",
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"content": "There wouldn't *be* an election. It would be outright anarchy, and not the good kind. The country would implode.",
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"content": "I disagree.\n\n\nShort term, yes. There would be riots and violence. It would be awful.\n\n\nThe election would go to the dems because there isn't anyone with Trump's rizz that could assemble fast enough.\n\n\nThen a bit more riots and violence. \n\n\nBut long term, it would cut off the head of the snake and MAGAts would slowly disperse into 90% normies and 10% militia psychos, as it was before 2016.",
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"content": "> But long term, it would cut off the head of the snake and MAGAts would slowly disperse into 90% normies and 10% militia psychos, as it was before 2016.\n\nEh. You would have a large section of the population permanently infected with brainrot/conspiracy pilled. That's not going away. It's not going away if Trump dies, or if he loses this year.\n\nAgree re: MAGA dies off after a while & dem win",
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"content": "They’re already too far gone",
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"content": "“Damn bro the dems decided to roll with their incumbent vice president literally 2nd in line during this breakneck presidential race with a primary already over - that’s basically like project 2025” \n\nThat’s it, they gotta be getting paid. Paid opposition.",
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"content": "They aren’t getting paid. That’s nonsensical and gives them too much credit. They’re just really really stupid. This is not the TYT of 2016 and before. They’re really dumb idiots who cater to the lowest form of progressive, the tankie adjacent crowd.",
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"content": "Some good news: In this poll Trump saw no polling bump from the assassination attempt.",
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"content": "You know, I kind of called that Trump and his allies with squander all the sympathy the assassination attempt would generate. I am a bit surprised that they appear to have squandered all of it already.",
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"content": "Exactly this. For a moment I worried Trump and his campaign were going to pull the “just act presidential and you win” line from 2016. And then after the first day of the RNC, J. D. Vance, and the right’s overall response it definitely seems less likely.",
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"content": "Every time Trump’s had the “just act presidential and you win” card, he tosses it in his golden toilet and pisses on it. COVID was the ultimate example, that could have guaranteed his reelection if he was just *normal* about it, but he just can’t do it. I don’t think it’s possible for him",
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