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"content": "Unfortunately ",
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"content": "It’s gonna be 65-70 degrees on Election Day where I am (NH).",
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"content": "Its supposed to be 81 here. In Ohio. I was gardening in shorts and a sports bra yesterday and *still* sweating. Fuck me we're so cooked.",
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"content": "Bah, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Ask a geologist sometime. Our planet is still currently in an \"icehouse earth\" state, wherein we still have polar ice caps. That is very much not a given. There were periods where the earth was several degrees centigrade hotter, in which there were no ice caps, sea levels were about 150 meters higher, and continents became vast, fetid mangrove swamps and lagoons from the shallow inland seas that formed.",
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"content": "Biden endorsed Kamala ",
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"content": "Was this the right decision? I thought they didn’t have a plan or something?",
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"content": "The dems didn’t have a plan. Obviously Biden did",
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"content": "It does appear that he was succumb to pressure and dropped out. Not really what he wanted.",
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"content": "Honestly, I gotta disagree with Vaush community in a rare occurrence. Joe dropping out would be suicidal for the Dems. All the talk of \"we will get more coverage with the dems debating each other\" is pure cope. \n\nJoe Biden is established in the minds of independents and HE IS THE INCUMBENT!!! Y'all have lost site of how important those 2 factors are.\n\nThis is a victory and should be celebrated.",
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"content": "Fucking finally, a sane person talking about this, remember the last time the Dems tried this, when LBG stepped down, we got fucking Nixon",
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"content": "Did you sleep through the part of history class where the Dem front runners for that race, one of which was anti-war and depised by the DNC and the other, Bobby Kennedy was assassinated?",
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"content": "That doesn't exactly change the fact that the incumbent stepped down and the Democrats proceeded to get shit stomped by the Republicans",
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"content": "Because of two major factors: open conscription started that year and that gave people an axe to grind with the incumbent party. And 2nd the delegates for Kennedy all swapped out for Hubert Humphreys, the most unpopular candidate in the race against even the democratic bases wishes.",
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"content": "And even then LBJ probably would have lost by a bigger margin.",
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"content": "\"Aftermath\" - how realistic is that? ",
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"content": "For the first half I was going \"This is just a description of the rise of Hitler with the names swapped, isn't it?\"\n\nThis is roughly what I'd expect to happen, except I'd expect a bunch of \"tried and failed\" around the stuff stopping protests and resistance.",
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"content": "Hitler wasn't stopped by \"protests and resistance\" but a global war that ended in millions of people dead and many more lives in ruins.\n\nI don't really know or give a fuck if \"protests\" or \"resistance\" is the kind of thing that make your activist brain feel alive, but the best way stop history from repeating itself is to never let it happen in the first place.",
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"content": "I think you misunderstand me.\n\nI expect Trump's regime to fail to stop protests and resistance, not for protests and resistance to stop Trump's regime.\n\nI expect Trump's regime to fall when Trump dies, because there's no way he will have lined up a successor. The heirs' infighting is the opportunity to restore the republic.",
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"content": "Considering his massively poor performance latley and general disapproval by voters, do you think there is a chance the DNC decides to throw him out? I've seen liberal \"blue no matter who\" type friends of mine say they are considering voting green or even abstaining. His most obvious replacement would be Kamala ofcourse. \n\nEither way I'm not excited to be voting for a former prosecutor or a block of wood with a racist history. It doesn't seem like many dems want to take a run this year and are pretty complicit with risking another trump presidency for the sake of ego and not backpedaling on their mistake of picking Biden to run in the first place.\n\nI know it's technically possible for the dems to replace Biden but do you think they'd even bother trying?",
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"content": "I'll go with what Vaush has said, the most likely outcome is that Biden's gonna be the nominee and then Trump is probably gonna win.\n\n*Don't downvote Me please, I'm just being a realist.",
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"content": "The thing is, Biden’s debate performance affected the polls for like a week but now he’s back to his pre debate numbers. If Biden can keep hammering down project 2025, he could win.",
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"content": "Exactly it’s not a forgone conclusion. Democrats across the country are worried. We are also quiet and mousey. And Biden still may be replaced.",
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"content": "I don't know what's happening on this sub but I've seen 3 post of Macron apologia.\n\nWHAT THE HELL!!!\n\nHe's partly the reason my country is teetering on the edge of fascism but oh no he didn't do the absolute worst choice imaginable.\n\nNo! We're coming out of a grueling month and a half of brutal campaigning to barely scrape by a partial win and I come here and see fucking liberal apologia ?",
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"content": "I am happier with the French left actually getting more power as a result of this than I am with Labour's sweep. Labour sweep has no guarantee they won't continue Tory austerity, meanwhile being the largest bloc in France the left parties can actually do some shit. Its the UK that made no real leftist progress, but you guys over in France I think did a good ass job. Always could be better, but I'm proud.",
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"content": "From what I understand about the failing country that is the Isle of TERF: The Tory Party is dying and Labour is about to take their place. My guesstimate is that the LibDems will be the new center-left party while Labour slowly becomes the BNP.",
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"content": "Well from this comment it’s clear you understand fuck all about the UK. Probs best to keep your mouth shut before you reveal the extent of your ignorance.",
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"content": "Uh oh *^-^*",
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"content": "Go read more thicko. Reform is the new BNP, not labour but what can you expect from a thicko yank.",
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"content": "\"Labour isnt moving to the far right. Sure they're going after immigrants and minorities, but they're gonna make the trains run on time by nationalizing the railways! That makes them not far right. You couldn't POSSIBLY understand the nuances of British politics.\" \n\n *^-^*",
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"content": "labour isn't moving to the far right because that implies they actually believe in something",
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"content": "Jumping into the 2025 platform. They even have an application lmao. Point being: Everybody left of nazi sees it as a big bad. Few can break down why. Even like Mr. twitterelli hasn’t looked into it and just calls Trumps platform nonexistent, and it infuriates me. It’s like a manifesto BEFORE the shooting.\n\nEither that or “social fascism” and the KPDs valiantly attempts to stop the rise of Hitler. Feels topical. Also allows for more second thought shittjng, which is always a good thing.",
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"content": "> Everybody left of nazi sees it as a big bad. Few can break down why.\n\nSuris is reading the whole thing on stream.",
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"content": "When Kamala HQ is watching Adin stream with Trump, we really live in a simulation",
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"content": "I guess Lauren Southern will have to find another boogeyman now that Trump has endorsed Venezuela as a place we should emulate.",
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"content": "Is she still relevant? I thought she was trying to be against be a trad wife?",
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"content": "Yeah…but she just realized she not into that kink like she thought. The rest of the fascist ideology hasn’t come crashing down on her though so she’s fine still supporting it.",
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"content": "Most 3rd Parties in this Election are PSYOP’s For Donald Trump or Grifts. 1/4 \n\nMost",
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"content": "The Major third party candidates this cycle with the exemption of Libertarian Chase Oliver are all propped up with GOP money and GOP ballot access firms. They’re not even hiding the ball about playing the role of spoiler at this point\n\nThis has been a decades-long GOP strategy. Long a tactic of sleazy local operatives, first elevated to the national GOP scene in 1971 by Nixon & Reagan adviser Pat Buchanan\n\nAs we’re seeking currently with RFK Jr Dropping out\n\nWow It’s Almost Like More than half of the main RFK political action committee’s revenue came from a bunch of Conservative Trump mega donors , who & That he was recruited by Republican powerhouses Steve Bannon, Roger Stone & Tucker Carlson. Kennedy is a financed Republican stooge.\n\nWho lazily assumed that a Kennedy on the ballot would appeal to Dems, siphon off a bunch of Democrat voters because his last name was Kennedy\n\nBut instead During Kennedy’s campaign, donors who gave at least $200 or more in aggregate were far more likely to have a history of giving to Trump or Republicans than to Democratic candidates. Roughly 5,000 of Kennedy’s approximately 35,000 donors through the end of July also made itemized donations to the Trump campaign, while less than 50 of his donors also gave to the Biden-Harris operation this cycle.\n\n& now polling confirms he’s actually siphoning off Trump voters , cuz of the conspiratorial stuff, the policy incoherence, the anti vax stuff, & covid related rhetoric, that Trump & Kennedy Share. so the donors are pulling the plug.\n\nIt’s clear now: This Loon’s campaign has been nothing more than a stalking horse and a grift to help Trump\n\n& in the Short-Term: RFK Jr dropping out will probably help increase Trump’s share in the polls\n\nAfter all Robert F. Kennedy Jr. much like Trump has always had many personal features in common with him .\n\nAn entitled playboy son of northeastern wealth; (in Michelle Obama’s words) “afforded the grace of failing forward” as a misbehaving individual admitted to Ivy League colleges thanks to “the affirmative action of generational wealth”; reckless lifelong adolescent, attention-craving philanderer, liar & a jerk.\n\nSpeeches nearly as meandering, incoherent and filled with lies as any average hour of Trump.\n\nRFK JR: We need to end polarization so I’m dropping out to support the most divisive figure in decades.\n\nRFK Jr: , I love free speech but I’m getting behind the guy who wants to jail flag burners & lock up protesters . RFK Jr: I’m worried about corporate capture so vote for the party owned by big oil.\n\nRFK Jr is a stain on his father’s—and his family’s—legacy.\n\nPeople who gave RFK Jr the time of day were never serious people\n\nIncluding Media Personalities, that should know better\n\nA prime example of Votes Based on Vibes , look no Further then The Young Turks\n\nCenk and Ana: We won’t vote for Biden under any circumstances because of Gaza. We need better candidates.\n\nCenk and Ana: We need better candidates such as RFK JR ( omit his Pro Israeli Fanaticism)\n\nGuys If you don’t want an anti-vax loon making federal health policy under a second Trump administration, vote for Kamala Harris\n\nBut it’s not only him\n\nFor instance, Republicans are central in an effort to rescue Cornel West’s ballot hopes in Arizona\n\nTo qualify for the ballot, Arizona law requires independent presidential candidates to put forward a slate of electors who would cast Electoral College votes for them. If you can’t do a simple Task like that, You’re a Spoiler.\n\nOf course it was reported in June that West’s campaign is broke. According to his last campaign filing, he spent more on graphic design than on petition gathering.\n\nGOP Operatives connected to Various GOP firms are also attempting to help him with North Carolina, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania ballot access\n\nIn fact, Trump recently said the quiet part out loud at a rally, saying, “Cornel West—he’s one of my favorite candidates,” and that West “takes 100%” of the vote from Biden/Harris .\n\nLikewise with Jill Stein,\n\nWhich isn’t really new. The GOP has funded Green Party sock puppet candidates before.\n\nWho’s current campaign is called “Abandon Harris” its quite clear that you got no problem with people sticking by Trump, lol. In fact, your message isn’t even “Vote Stein!”\n\nthe political equivalent of a wet napkin, who shows up every year wanting the top job, but has no history actually doing any of the work, working on policy ,\n\nBesides Running for Office, Multiple times ,From 2002-2010. Where she won twice. for the Lexington Town Meeting, a representative town meeting, the local legislative body in Lexington, Massachusetts, being elected to one of seven seats in Precinct 2. The first with 539 total votes in 2005. Then being reelected with 194 votes in 2008 , finishing second of 13 vying for 8 seats.\n\nEver since, she has demand to be king and failed .\n\nNotice How all These Third Parties are pandering to anti-vax nutcases, Just Like Trump.\n\nNotice, for Some Unexplained Reason, They’re All Pro Russian\n\nRussia wants Trump to get Trump elected, after all.\n\nNotice, How we didn’t hear much from Third parties, in 2020\n\nOh because a Republican was running for re election\n\nNotice, How These Third Parties Never Mention ,that’s there’s only one party making access to voting a challenge for millions of Americans. 2/4",
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"content": "These sorts of tactics are not new for GOP operatives btw\n\nMinnesota Republicans for years recruited, funded & used pro-marijuana third party candidates to gain control of the state legislature, making marijuana legalization for years , until Minnesota elected a democratic trifecta\n\n& let’s not forget the orchestrated effort by Republicans to get third parties like No Labels and Andrew Yang’s new third party earlier in this election cycle , which was made up of...groups of Republicans including literal former members of the Trump administration\n\nBut The Harris swap really took The Sail out of third party vote & In RFK’s Case , it backfired\n\nLong-Term: Trump’s 2016 victory depended in large part on an increase in third-party votes that isn’t materializing anymore in 2024\n\nEven so, Even with Biden Dropping out & Harris getting in , The race for the White House remains in a dead heat with just months to go before Election Day.\n\nA vote for any of these candidates was never about a conscience vote- it was a vote based on Vibes, it was a de facto vote for Trump. 3/4",
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"content": "The fact that third parties only ever run for president every 4 years, especially When The GOP is not in office ,and never during off years & midterms is Sus\n\nInstead of actually trying to build a coalition or power at the local or state level or even trying to organize the basic party structure and candidates needed for a Third Party to be successful nationally , it’s just a Hail Mary run every 4 years\n\nAt least Win some Congressional seats first! Let alone a School Board Race & build up\n\nAlso If there was that much dystopian dissatisfaction with the 2 party system it should be really easy to take over local governments with a small but dedicated coordinated campaign. But they don’t because it’s against their agenda or they are too stupid and incompetent\n\nDo any of these 3rd Partes running explain how they plan to actually implement their agenda?\n\nDo any of these 3rd Partes extensively Vet their candidates to make certain their personal and professional lives could withstand the scrutiny prominent candidates have received, without exposing serious flaws?\n\nYou know the answer\n\nAll of this should make it pretty obvious it’s a grift bare minimum, liable to be Used by Republicans\n\nit’s a privilege to even be able to think about casting a protest vote\n\nNobody ever asks republican constituents to seriously vote third party and throw away their votes\n\nAnd fuck the whole “don’t vote shame people” narrative. I changed my mind because of shame. It can work. Sometimes people need it.\n\nAfter all ask for instance , how disabled people lives will improve with Trump in office\n\nIt’s Funny how all of the third party people’s theory of change is just to let republicans win. You know one of the two parties in the duopoly.\n\nIt’s Simlar, To How A lot of Never Trump Republicans claim to be against Trump, but will vote for him or a third party anyway, knowing that they’re doing absolutely nothing to stop him.\n\nThe ONLY way to be against Trump is to vote FOR Harris. Anything else is just bullshit.\n\nAlso Honorable Mention to Right Wing Propagandists media personalities , Such as Joe Rogan & Jimmy Dore , acting all discreet ,with their support of Trump .\n\nAs if we’re not noticing the framing of their stories , that they report on.\n\nI Recently saw Christian Smalls co-founder and the former president of the Amazon Labor Union , saying he’s not voting Democrat, But Third Party .\n\nAmazon strikes or Amazon union formation would have been illegal under Trump’s NLRB period .\n\nAt some point it isn’t a matter of having a lack of political instinct . But just being an Idiot .\n\nWhich you will be , if you’re not Democrat this election\n\nLook Of course, no party is entitled to votes and some Democrats have boosted Libertarians or Far Right Candidates in GOP primaries .& States must expand ranked choice voting and prosecute ringer candidates\n\nBut Voting is public transit. If there’s a route to where you need to be, you make connections to get there as soon as possible. You Don’t just sit & not move Or take an unnecessary longer route\n\n4/4\n\nPS: Donald Trump’s failed 2020 campaign operation was heavily involved in the fake candidate business by running a nationwide network to get Kanye West, a Trump supporter, ballot access as a third party candidate., to Sipon Black Votes\n\nJared Kushner advised him and West acknowledged he wasn’t a real candidate.",
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"content": "I'm genuinely deeply disappointed in Vaush here. I caught the Squidtips' video right when it was uploaded, and though I agree the name drops of Contra and Prof. Flowers was a needless detraction; tuning into stream just now to find Vaush actually looking at the video only for him to then watch less than a fifth of it by jumping to random points coupled with his doubling down on being an ignorant shithead was pretty disheartening to see.\n\nAnd don't get me wrong; I knew full well given his attitude the last few years that there was a strong chance I was going to be let down here, but I was none the less hopeful this could've been a constructive heart warming learning opportunity for him to have in front of his community, recanting his initial idiot-carbrain take on motorcycles. It hurts to watch him be so confidently wrong about something he seriously knows nothing about, only to then see him double down without even substantively addressing the totality of the video.\n\nI just really have a hard time reconciling that this is the same person that made the very thoughtful and thorough video addressing his own bad faith allegations, then in turn engaging in bad faith and really ridiculous hyperbole when faced with genuine criticism.\n\nIdk, this pretty suddenly let the air out of my tires; the combo move of all the recent Kamala hopium + hearing all my brain-rotten conservative coworkers coping over being called weird + potentially getting Vaush on a motorcycle, had me feeling genuinely positive for the first time in a while. This fucking sucks guys.",
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"content": "Why do you give a shit about Vaush not liking motorcycles? An opinion he literally stated to have based on his personal experiences with them.",
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"content": "This is just the weed thing over again man",
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"content": "I remember a few days back when the news of the strike first came out, all over reddit hordes of libs parroting the same anti labor shit, the workers are lazy, the union boss is paid too much, Trump actually orchestrated this for Harris to lose the election, the whole shebang. The strike lasted 3 days. The moment that labor even slightly threatened them, they rushed to attack it. And it was all for nothing, incredibly funny. ",
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"content": "I think the biggest sticking point wasn’t the wage increases or even the bosses salary. If he is able to get better working conditions for his crew, he’s probably worth the money in their eyes.\n\nThe main point of contention by far, was the ban on automation in critical key infrastructure being our ports. 1. Seems like a pointless fight, 2. that cost is past onto consumers hitting poorer people hardest, and 3. makes conditions less safe for the workers. From what I read, we’re at 1980s level of tech and automation for critical infrastructure, it’s insane. \n\nThat, and the union boss’ rhetoric came off as he did not care about the impact of his actions as it squares with the American people, a strike would again, impact the poorest Americans hardest and I think that decision should not be taken lightly.",
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"content": "Points about the automation, I used to agree with that but I have changed my mind, as vaush argues, automation doesnt actually mean prices will go down, if the ports have zero incentive to lower prices, only their profits go up. Also the conditions being less safe doesnt matter if the workers dont have the job in the first place. And automation is gonna axe a lot of jobs. \n\nAnd for the second point, this logic shuts down all important strikes. Its not the job of the union to think about how the economy will be impacted. The whole point of a strike like this is that it will make the economy stop. If poor people being impacted is enough of a concern to stop strikes, then you are ruling out all large scale industrial action, and throwing out all your leverage as the working class.",
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"content": "I want to ask you a question in earnest, because automation isn’t exclusive to just 2000s+ computer automation, it’s been happening since the Industrial Revolution. At what point should we stop automation in the service of preserving jobs? Should we have stopped telecom companies from automating operators? Typists? Even since the 1800s we have automated jobs in service of greater economic output. As the swede unions say, protect the worker not the job. Without key automations we do not get the society we have today of unprecented comfort and wealth.\n\nFrom my understanding americas ports are not owned by 1-2 companies. As someone who has imported goods into the country, both LA ports are so much more competitive in their pricing. They are largely automated or at least more so than these southern and coastal ports. Even in market socialism, automating a sector would allow a firm to be more competitive and lower prices. When you have labor bloat - ie some dude who’s job is to manage a ledger or open a gate - you are not able to be as competitive as other firms.\n\nLike, negotiate for like 2 years severance for jobs lost to automation, you can not fight this pressure successfully without pushing the cost down stream.",
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"content": "We get out of the way of automation when the dividends of automation are passed down to the people whose jobs were eradicated. If *everything* can be automated then *everyone* must benefit from it economically for it to be made worthwhile. This frees people from the need of labour and lets them pursue their goals. \n \nSo far, the goal of automation is to destroy jobs and force people into destitution. The guy who worked 20 years operating a crane is worse off after all cranes are automated, even after he re-trains for another job and starts at the bottom of that job's income range.",
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"content": "If what you’re saying is the case, that automation forces people into destitution, then why haven’t we seen it play out in the 100+ years labor has been automated? We are the most wealthy we’ve ever been and every single rung of society is doing better even 20-30 years ago? \n\nI just don’t think we have to enact socialism for us to allow ourselves to automate. I think on a micro level it sucks that a crane operator loses his job, but even in market socialism, no one is obligated to a $100k salary doing outdated labor.\n\nA hypothetical for you in a transitory state in between capitalism and socialism. A private firm port vs a worker co-opt port. Do you not think the worker co-opt needs to automate to be competitive with the private port? Does keeping job bloat around hinder its ability to provide services at a competitive rate? Is the coop more or less equipped to reduce head count at the service of the firm?\n\nIn reality, it sucks that someone loses a job, and we should federally give them as much assistance as needed to rebound, retrain or relocate, but again it’s a little ridiculous to think it’s the morally correct position in all instances to prevent automation of menial labor, especially in the case where the increased cost is past to the companies who own the product who in turn pass the cost directly to the consumer, making 100000x more harm than the handful of jobs lost.",
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"content": "There's no way such a rightward shift could just be the result of 4 years of mediocrity under Biden, it has to be indicative of a long-term trend. My current (entirely uninformed) theory is that the rot that has lead to [a nearly universal rightward shift in every state](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/678493467768520704/1303582059041652807/image.png?ex=672c46e6&is=672af566&hm=8012c191ca6bf58e4179d526518cf5ea6e437ee741d24eb93f05f61d1685775a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=486&height=350) has been ongoing since 2012, with 2020 being an outlier because the COVID backlash that Trump faced temporarily depressed the steadily rising conservative tide. It's grim to think about, but I genuinely don't think that it can be explained any other way.",
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"content": "Covid caused Trump to lose in 2020. \nAnd it caused Kamala to lose in 2024. \nIt's poetic.",
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"content": "> And it caused Kamala to lose in 2024.\n> \n\nhowso?",
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"content": "Caused massive inflation which raised prices on essential goods by 30-50%.",
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"content": "Clooney has fallen, I repeat Clooney has fallen",
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"content": "CLOOOONEY!!!!!?????????????? GEORGE. CLOONEY.????????????\n\nBiden, Biden baby pleaseeeeeeeeee see the writing on the **FUCKING WALL**",
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"content": "Not one viable alternative has been presented. (No, California cop and hollow corporate husk Kamala doesn't have a chance.)",
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"content": "Present an anime character or a pet, might as well 🤷🏻♀️",
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"content": "What matters is how people are going to vote.",
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"content": "anyone who wants to vote for biden will almost certainly vote for kamala",
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"content": "No they won't. She is that unlikable.",
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"content": "she is certainly more electable than someone who can’t even string sentences together",
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"content": "Why don't polls reflect a significantly better chance for her to win, then?",
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"content": "do polls matter or not matter, because many many polls say voters explicitly want Biden to drop out?",
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"content": "I know there's about to be a US election but it's a very rare occasion where the LDP (green) lost their majority. This is a major L for the LDP and their new prime minister. I think it's only happened like once before. It's going to be very hard for the LDP to form a ruling coalition.",
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"content": "whats the other big party? might they be able to from a government?",
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"content": "Its the constetutional democrats. Theyre a bit more left leaning than the ldp, but they recently moved \"to the center\" to \"gain ldp votes\". \n\nSo you know... nothing new under the sun, except theyre still better on social policy than the ldp. Maybe also on economics, but its hard to tell on that one, since almost anything would make the japanese labor market less psycotic at this point.",
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"content": "but they’d form a coalition with the communist party which would be the first time the jcp has ever been a part of a government formation and that’s pretty cool in my opinion",
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"content": "Well after they shifted right, the communists have said this was a betrayel of their potential coalition... so.... \n\nNot sure if that'd last, even if the constetutionalists wanted to form an opposistion coalition.",
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"content": "It'd be a very diverse coalition that would easily fall apart if the CDU tried to form a government",
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"content": "Theyd have to walk back their rightward shift, which would be great, unless defecting ldp voters would see that as them lying to get their vote. \n\nWe can hope. If nothing else, Japans far right losing its grip might genuinly save them from extinction.",
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"content": "We can do little more than hope. Still it's a small victory just to break the majority.",
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"content": "I do admittedly give her the benefit of the doubt because she's Black. It's against my better judgment and she continues to evaporate any remaining trust, but I just don't have it in me to think a Black woman could be as much of a white supremacist as she continues to prove herself as being.",
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"content": "Progressives uniting behind Biden and the centrists rebelling is actually unbelievable. Leftists are terrible at strategy, as usual. ",
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"content": "It's progressive politicans doing that because they would be attacked if they suggested Biden leave. \n\nProgressive/leftie voters are most out spoken for getting rid of Biden. The distinction is important.",
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"content": "I mean, are they? It's the squad that supports Biden, and now it's the biggest dem donors and party operatives that are trying to sway him out of the race. \n\nMost of the statements calling for him to drop out have been from centrists in good faith.",
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"content": "I was making the distinction between progressive politicians and non politicians. Non politican progressives want him gone and are outspoken about. For progressive politicians tho there would be a huge political price to pay if they outwardly call for Biden to leave. In fact progressive dem politicians asking Biden to leave would probably make it less likely to happen just cause how hostile the party is towards them.",
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"content": "Tim Walz isn't actually vaushpilled as it turns out :( ",
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"content": "wtf is that website",
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"content": "Idk but it's trending hoax. Can't believe what kind of childish bs are conservatives coming up with.",
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"content": "They're SOOOO MAD because they are used to being the scary boogeyman and now everyone just sees them as embarrassing little freaks. Real pennywise energy",
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"content": "so i've been educating myself on the capitalist and socialist death count debate and this is what i came up with.\n\nso first the definition of capitalism: capitalism is the mode of production of which the ownership of the means of production is privately owned by the few/capitalist. the capitalist utilize the ownership of the means of production to get people to work for them. the worker doesn't own the means of production and has no say in the control of the means of production.\n\nthe definition of state planned socialism (historically most socialist countries): socialism is the mode of production of which the means of production is owned communally/publicly/by the workers. the workers communally selects what they want to produce/ how they want to produce it. the workers communally selects what state plans they want for the economy. all wealth and resources is equally distributed to all workers. socialism is based on need. if people do not need something it will not be produced or at least not produced that much.\n\nso how do we know if capitalism caused or ignored a preventable death: capitalism is private ownership of the means of production. if the private owners of the means of production kills somebody or ignores a preventable death that they can save it is added to the capitalist death toll.\n\nso how do we know if socialism caused or ignored a preventable death: socialism is public ownership of the means of production. if the public/working class owners of the means of production collectively kills somebody or collectively ignores a preventable death that they can save it is added to the socialist death toll.\n\nwhy the black book of communism is silly:\n\nnazi deaths are counted as victims of communism. nazis weren't socialist. the nazis killied and imprisoned socialist/communist. in fact they privatize industry that used to be public.\ncounting non births as deaths. so what this book does is if in a country that used to 4 children birth rate and dropped to 2 children birth rate after a socialist revolution and those 2 other children that wouldve been born is now considered a \"victim of communism\" this is silly you can't be a victim of anything if you don't exist because you can't experience anything to be a victim.\ntwo of the authors admit to having lower estimates\npulling numbers out of thin air\ncounting pragmatists as \"victims of communism\"\nmain author being obsessed with reaching 100 million\nnoam chomsky stated that if we were to say the same about india. 1917 through 1979 already 100 million people would have died. an argument to this is that india's constitution calls itself socialist. my counter argument is this wiki paragraph\n\nSocialism in India is a political movement founded early in the 20th century, as a part of the broader movement to gain Indian independence from colonial rule. The movement grew quickly in popularity as it espoused the causes of India's farmers and labourers against the zamindars, the princely class and the landed gentry. After independence and until the early 1990s, socialism shaped some economic and social policies of the Indian government, although they mostly followed the principles of dirigisme.\\1])\\2]) After this period, India moved towards a more market-based economy. Though, India is officially declared a socialist state as per the constitution.\n\nso they half assed socialism and instead just practiced dirigisme. which if you don't know what is dirigisme. dirigisme is a form of capitalism but just lots of state intervention(it's a bit more complicated than that but you catch my drift). just because someone calls themselves something it doesn't mean they are. india wasn't socialist. so the 100 million people that died was do to capitalism.\n\nalso 41 million people dies from preventable diseases a year. every 10 years 410,000,000 people dies from a preventable death. from 1950 to 2024 we could've saved 3 billion people. we can 100% prevent these deaths. but the rich chose not to. because it isn't profitable.\n\nwhile the cuban government is going out their way to help people from covid for free or nearly for free.\n\nhere are some videos:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClLKm8Q8Pns\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5LMxXC8qWg&t\n\nEdit: I was being gracious here the real tally exceeds 10 billion",
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"content": "All of these discussions just lead to adding gray area shit to the count. Is all of British colonialism the fault of capitalism? Are all political assassinations in the USSR because of socialism? \n\nThe better thing would be to look at specific causes. Looking at such specific things like kill count during a famine or something like that and just blaming a whole system (from which socialism isn't even strictly defined) just leads to misinformation.\n\nIf you like making such sweeping statements I think the only thing around that topic you can say with certainty is that the biggest killer when it comes to ideologies and systems is colonialism. But even that's kind of reductive in my opinion.",
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"content": "Also the data inevitably gets skewed because populations grow. Hard to gauge a per cap death rate for each system, while you’d also have to somehow gauge the net benefits of each system too and weight against it. Don’t tankies like to bring up how many people were lifted out of starvation initially with the Soviet revolution?",
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"content": "Yeah, wars in China way before capitalism adjusted for population back then would have to be regarded as the worst thing on history. And what ideology or system is the killer there? Feudalism? \n\nI think it's better to look at it that way: \nPeople can be extremely greedy and lust for power. All hierarchical structures of governance inevitably lead to some bad outcomes because of that. Capitalism is very efficient at spreading that power and influence so it helps but it's a tool, not a cause. If it was a cause, then how is colonisation of America by Spain basically the same thing. If it was caused by capitalism then it wouldn't happen back when Columbus was sailing, there was no capitalism back then.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Why not talk about the legislation and policies passed. Way more than Trump. This is how we will lose if we keep this Biden is old talking point going.",
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"content": "Because we aren't a cult like republicans.",
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"content": "Maybe we need to be a cult until election day atleast.",
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"content": "quite the opposite if the party had been more self critical we could have avoided the situation we are in where Biden's senility is self evident and dragging the party down with itself.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I love this man. ",
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"content": "Nah fuck corbyn, I cannot take any so called “anti-war” and “anti-imperialist” seriously when they say we shouldn’t arm Ukraine and that Ukraine should just surrender to the Russian, he’s just another leftist who never forgave the people of Eastern Europe for killing the Soviet Union",
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"content": "You got anyone better buddy? Doing a lot of complaining and everything you’re saying applies to Biden but even more considering the full blown genocide in Gaza and him ACTIVELY ENGAGING IN IT. He is giving the Nazis the chambers. Corbyn had absolutely dumb ass lefty foreign policy takes but he objectively is better than any other politician in the UK bar none.",
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"content": "If a genocide denier is the best your the UK can do when it comes to politicians than it deserves its fate",
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"content": "I’m curious because this is the same shit moronic lefties do with Biden. I hate Biden and he deserves Genocide Joe but he’s better than Trump. You are able to realize that 99% Hitler is better than Hitler 100% right?",
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"content": "Question isn't whether Corbyn is better than his opponent or whether it is good he won his constituency. He is and it is. Fuck him anyway.",
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"content": "Shapirbros in Shambles. Walz Warriors stay winning. ",
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"content": "Donors coping and seething writing their check",
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"content": "AIPAC IN SHAMBLES, ITS JOEVER ITS NEVER BEEN MORE JOEVER",
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"content": "“You big meanies! Here is another check, we going to go back to spend multi 10s millions to oust one representative”",
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"content": "Whitmer Declines Potential VP Nomination",
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"content": "Whitmer/Newsom are 100% not doing it, they'll wait for a clean 2028 slate",
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"content": "Unfortunately, as misogynistic as this country is, there's no real chance of a double-woman ticket winning. Not yet at this point in history. Especially in this climate when Fascism is on the rise and a huge chunk of men, including young men, have gone into the Manosphere and Manosphere-adjacent thinking. Some men have regressed over the past 10-12 years compared to how they were before. Economic downturn, unavailability of affordable housing, and rising equality of women and women increasingly becoming job competition in the job market, while men of all races are experiencing higher unemployment and completing/attending college at lower and lower rates, has led to a bunch of men regressing into gender-based tribalism. Especially as their male privilege is shriveling during economic uncertainty and hard times. Some people regress to bigotries during hard times, especially as other groups are making gains of some sort (even if those gains are just human rights they were entitled to) around the time of the downturn. Bigotries are an outgrowth of tribalism, and tribalism to many humans is like an adult security blanket or a childhood comfort food being returned to as an adult when the chips are down. Kamala being a nonwhite woman adds to making a double-woman ticket being an uphill climb in this current climate.",
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"content": "The only issue I have with this is a double woman ticket doesn't change the vote for the type of people you're talking about, Andrew Tate manosphere types wouldn't vote Dem even if it was two white men",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Why not talk about the legislation and policies passed. Way more than Trump. This is how we will lose if we keep this Biden is old talking point going.",
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"content": "It’s funny that the one time liberals think of copying strategies from the GOP, it’s their cult like and “no questions asked” behavior and not constructing better narratives and going out of our way to appeal to moderate voters",
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"content": "Nope, just pointing out Biden is old but has a better record then Trumps record and accusations is what should be talked about",
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"content": "Biden is incapable of messaging. If people don’t know about his accomplishments, that’s *his* fault. He gets a question about abortion, *the* winningest issue, and starts talking about Mexican rapists and murderers.",
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"content": "When RFK inevitably drops out and endorses trump (because he’s a right wing plant), are his voters actually going right or is there conspiratorial live out there that will go to coconut island? I ask because s lot of the comment sections I see are so lib pilled and all they care about is that Rfk can “speak so well and answer all the questions!!!",
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"content": "I don’t look at polls or anything I really don’t know what rfks voterbase is like, they’re all insane in there own little ways but is it the leftist 4chan types or the average Republican dipshit",
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"content": "I think a lot of these people just won't vote. RFK has tapped into a group of people who are so distrustful of the government that even Trump isn't enough of a 'fuck you' to the system.",
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"content": "He's got that dog eater demographic on lock. That's like.. tens of people.",
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"content": "Wes Streeting to agree with Tory ruling on powerful drugs for under 18s as his party toughens stance on trans issues",
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"content": "In a rare case, on *this* very specific issue, perhaps the Tories were *less bad* and genocidal then the labour party is huh",
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"content": "Labour are continuing Tory policy here and they’re still significantly better in most areas. Still though this is disgusting policy obviously.",
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"content": "What areas in regards trans care are they better about? I have only heard negatives so if there are positives im all ears",
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"content": "I meant other areas as in not on trans care",
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"content": "Electoral College Polling predictions",
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"content": "This doesn't make sense to me given Biden being at best like 2 points behind Trump on every poll I've seen. I know that's within the margin of error but given how consistent it is shouldn't that put Trump ahead? Not familiar with poll methodology.",
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"content": "538 is being run by a guy that has no idea what he's doing. He is weighting polling at like 10% importance vs 90% weight of goofy made up shit. When you actually just analyze the polling Biden is doing horrific odds.",
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"content": "Daylight savings time this year ends on Nov 3. Two days before Election Day. \n\nIf Trump wins, every single goddamn Liberal Hot Take Artist on Twitter is going to spam some variation of \"this year we set our clocks back 400 years!\" It's already starting and the election isn't even over yet!\n\nKamala winning could help retire this incredibly played out joke. \n\nThat's it, that's my closing argument ",
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"content": "We CANNOT allow four more years of Covfefe jokes #I'mWithHer",
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"content": "Drumpf 😤",
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"content": "Make Donald Drumpf Again\n\nDamn, I can't believe we lost in 2016 with winner slogans like this one",
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"content": "But the media is significantly helping Trump in this election cycle. I know the debate was bad for Biden, but most media outlets are hyper focusing on this, while actually either ignoring or deliberately covering up Trump's crimes against LITERAL CHILDREN (I find it funny that ONLY Hindustan times references Trump's Epstein involvement.)\n\nA lot of the MSM is still liberal leaning fortunately, but that large elements have been infected by Trumpism (mostly CNN), and it'll only get worse, even after the election.\n\nI've noticed a drastic shift in media in general over the past few years, online journalism is a lot more left wing today, despite the far right still having a significant (yet quite reduced presence), while the MSM is actively becoming far right every passing day. \n\nIt's like 2016, but the MSM is NOW ACTUALLY trying to facilitate turning our country in to an autocracy. TURN OFF THE DAMN TV. It isn't a joke anymore, this is some 1984 type crap.",
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"content": "I wonder why \"Trump killed Epstein\" theory never gained traction on the left. They only talk about \"elites\" killing him and whatnot, but no other elite had the kind of power at that time as Trump did.",
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"content": "I always figured it was the British Royals.",
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"content": "Through 007",
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"content": "Some good news: In this poll Trump saw no polling bump from the assassination attempt.",
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"content": "You know, I kind of called that Trump and his allies with squander all the sympathy the assassination attempt would generate. I am a bit surprised that they appear to have squandered all of it already.",
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"content": "It is only one poll so far, but I had thought he'd see a 5 point swing minimum and if this holds true for other polls I think it establishes that this is Trump's ceiling.",
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"content": "He's actually had a few polls, both show barely any movement",
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"content": "I’m sorry, but with the debate performance, you just don’t make mistakes like calling Zelensky Putin. Or saying Vice President Trump. Can’t keep his shit together for a few minutes. ",
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"content": "His campaign is in a death spiral. The debate highlighted his massive decline over the last few years. Dems panic. The only way to combat this is to get him in front of people to reassure them. When he's in front of people his gaffs are under more scrutiny and hurt him more than before. Dems panic further. They throw him in front of a larger audience. He has gaffs, loses more support, and Dems panic....he is unable to use his charisma to save himself because he has lost it. \n\nThe only thing that saves his candidacy at this point is some sudden and major world event that he handles well.",
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"content": "Oh yeah? Like what? A major world event like an ongoing ethnic cleansing in Gaza, or perhaps threatening a trade war with China to protect the Big 3 and Tesla? What about the migrant crisis caused by worsening material, socio-political, and environmental conditions, and his willingness to deny human rights to asylum by adopting Trump's policy \" but without Trump's rhetoric\". Even when he caves to far-right framing, messaging and policy he is STILL UNLIKEABLE.",
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"content": "lol I agree with you. He's not handling any of those well. I think he's doomed.",
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"content": "https://wapo.st/3ZTJVl0\n\n",
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"content": "I hope Kamala is better on labor I stuck with Biden even when he was doing the genocide because he was our best president on domestic policy since FDR if Harris is just a return to Obama era neo liberalism that would be disappointing",
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"content": "Yes very disappointing. But lots of unions at the DNC so fingers crossed",
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"content": "Of course He'd choose J.D. Vance, the Guy is a virtueless bootlicker.",
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"content": "Actually a bit surprised he didn't pick a woman. They're basically conceding the abortion issue. That might cost them",
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"content": "Kari Lake is devastated",
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"content": "Kristi Noem consoling herself by visiting a kennel",
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"content": "I think she’s being fair, but there’s a reason why people are giving Biden praise while saying he should drop out.\n\nIf you don’t come off as well meaning, then Biden will just dig his heels, his team will call you a hater and bed wetter, and you’ll be ignored. That’s why Biden allies couch their suggestions with praise.\n\nThe “honey rather than vinegar” strategy. They’re not doing it just because they think Joe is the bees knees. They think that’s the best way to convince Joe.",
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"content": "I agree. He's a crotchety 80 year old white man. Sad but true-hes fragile a f",
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"content": "Dude had shit aim",
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"content": "Dude came millimeters from killing the president in a pressure situation from over a football field away with no scope. Please stop revealing how ignorant you are.",
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"content": "I'd like to see exactly what optics he had if any but that is normally an extremely easy shot from that distance",
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"content": "Iron sights with a cross-wind under pressure. A cop trying to get up on the roof and snipers looking straight at him. Please stop this.",
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"content": "I mean I get that he was under a lot of pressure so I get it but seriously under any other circumstances that would be an exceptionally easy shot for any somewhat competent shooter",
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"content": "Absolutely delusional take. From 400 feet away you can barely make out who is who under non-stressful circumstances with no optical aid. Now add a crowd behind the person. This isn’t a fucking gun range, it’s real life.",
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"content": "Bro the marines used to use iron sights and could hit a bullseye at 500 meters, they don't even train at less than 200 meters because it's too close",
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"content": "#1 the marines are highly trained soldiers\n\n#2 you’re talking about a fucking gun range again",
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"content": "No I'm talking about actual combat dingus, and most marines aren't highly trained when they first go to the range, still a pretty easy shot",
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"content": "It’s not comparable. The marines in combat have been trained. This was just some dumbass kid, and if Trump hadn’t turned his head, he would be dead. You’re making a fool of yourself.",
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"content": "This article is definitely preaching to the choir in this sub, but it’s a decent piece nonetheless. The Trotsky quote at the end feels pretty relevant.",
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"content": "The takeaway at the end sums it up: “Leon Trotsky himself urged the German Communists to reconsider their foolish pride in 1931. “Should fascism come to power, it will ride over your skulls and spines like a terrific tank,” he declared, accurately. “Your salvation lies in merciless struggle. And only a fighting unity with the Social Democratic workers can bring victory. Make haste, worker-Communists, you have very little time left!”\n\nOnce again, the hour grows late. This November, leftist apathy can only bring disaster. Workers of the world, unite with your liberal foes; if you do not, you have everything to lose.” — Vote you insufferable bastards, it ain’t that hard.",
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"content": "Biden could keep the left and still lose though.. normie voters not chronically online are concerned over his debate and gaffes \n\n2 the courts are already fascist and actively overturning personal rights/protections this call/post article are about 12 years too late",
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"content": "One candidate wants to continue democratic tradition, the other doesn’t. That wasn’t really the case 12 years ago. Don’t be an insufferable bastard, just vote. We deal with the consequences after that.",
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"content": "Rep. Adam Smith - \"Joe Biden was not picked in 2020 because he was the only person that could beat Donald Trump. He was picked because he was the only person that could beat Bernie Sanders.\"",
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"content": "In 2020 I phone banked for Bernie and almost everyone I spoke to was ridin' with Biden. Keep in mind the younger generations don't answer cold calls.\n\n Anyway , most of the boomers who were registered Democrats I spoke to had nothing negative to say about Bernie, but Biden was their guy. Bernie did very well in a few key states and it was very close - I was disappointed but not surprised when Biden won the primaries.\n\nBut of course, I was relieved when Biden won over Trump and pre October 7, Biden was doing a surprisingly good job\n\n\nAt this point, people need to move on and talk about something else. It's a completely different era in politics now and bodily autonomy is on the line. Project 2025 had more Google searches today than Taylor Swift. When it comes down to it people who are smart and compassionate enough to understand the stakes won't go down without a fight\n\n\nFor that reason, an obviously very diminished Biden still has a decent shot once women and marginalized people rise up to vote, and if it ends up being Harris, which seems to be more likely by the day, then the dems will win the presidency, Senate and house in a landslide. We all need to stay hydrated and stop living in the past so we can secure the future with that KHive🐝",
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"content": "Bernie did better than anyone could have expected considering his policy positions compared to the average American. I wish people had more hands-on experience like this, interacting with real people. Leftists get confused and assume we're already at the part where our beliefs are the majority, so when Bernie loses, it can't be because Biden was basically the most respected, known, and experienced dem running for president. Because of that, we skip the step where we actually have to build our position and advocate for our candidates.",
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"content": "Thank you! It felt super validating to read your encouragement in a sea of hot takes and noise! (Though this subreddit has been relatively grounded on this issue)\n\nTbh the left should take it as a win how very competitive Bernie was in that primary, a thought that would have been impossible to imagine 15 or even 10 years ago. \n\nAfter all, not a single person I spoke to scoffed at me as though Bernie was a completely ridiculous option. I feel like that should say something considering how stagnant and neoliberal us politics was for so long, and how boomers can be so sure of their opinions (lol)\n\nDon't people remember how Biden took a lot of Bernie's platform and turned it into policy?? Why would he have done that if Bernie didn't have very popular ideas??\n\nIt drives me crazy when people listen to pundits over analyzing material conditions. \n\nTouching grass has never steered me wrong in terms of understanding where people are actually at. \n\nWe are closer than we have ever been in my lifetime, I feel that the working class is already over halfway there in terms of understanding what needs to happen! In my opinion, we should see that as a victory and keep up the hard work",
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"content": "Just hours after Biden stepped down, his campaign has officially filed the paperwork to hand it over to Harris for President, and she is raking it in from grassroots donos. CocoMomala is unburdened ",
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"content": "Who’s got the link?",
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"content": "https://secure.actblue.com/donate/p2p-240721-jbau?refcode=d20_1_fl",
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"content": "$50 to comrade Kamala",
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"content": "I have NEVER in my entire life seen the Democratic Party as united and lockstep as today. Harris fundraising numbers are astronomical.\n\nTrumps campaign fucked up with Vance and anti-old angle. \n\nWith abortion as an issue, Harris might not be as encumbered electorally by being a woman, and tbh she’s been killing it in speeches. \n\nRepublicans malding. Thank you Joe. We can do this. ",
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"content": "Vaush and other left pundits have been saying versions of my theory for a while: \n\nThe vast majority of Americans are sick of Donald Trump's annoying shit and want to not have to think about politics again (and, of course, there's the 30ish percent of weirdos like us who make it a point to vote).. Kamala, as a functional adult, represents the ability to make politics boring and not annoying anymore. That alone is a monstrous boon; add the post-Dobbs anger, Trump's deteriorating brain and ever-inscrutable web of conspiracies, his Peter Thiel-sponsored Homunclous VP, Kamala's demographic edges and relatively difficult-to-smear history and there's a really good chance we snatched victory from defeat on Sunday. \n\nI feel excited about electoral politics for the first time since...2012, maybe? I've forgotten what hope feels like. I think a lot of you guys might have too.",
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"content": "I agree with what you're saying, but what about the other left pundits and communities who now think AOC and Bernie are traitors and sellouts to the DNC elite, and because Gaza is the only issue they seem to care about, they won't vote for anyone who has been in or around the Biden administration.",
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"content": "Dems won without them before. Lets move liberals into the left, and not worry so much about the.... \"leftists.\"",
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"content": "The time you spent on fucking Biden is time not spent on fucking old criminal Trump.",
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"content": "Ew. I mean point taken but I delegating this task to someone else.",
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"content": "Is the gas leak in TYT ever gonna get solved? Because I think they went across a point of no return...",
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"content": "This is a rare TYT W through the gas leak. Cenk is actually not wrong here, the Trump campaign got handed an incredible propaganda tool.",
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"content": "test foolish straight zesty shrill sable detail drunk practice telephone\n\n *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*",
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"content": "Where have I seen this again? Hmm 🤔",
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"content": "> brands \n\nLike, with branding irons?! Or was that euphemistic?",
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"content": "Branding in this context is a synonym to marking, in this case they used a permanent marker.",
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"content": "I feel like \"branding\" is a pretty poor choice of words here, even if it's technically correct. My initial assumption was that they were being marked with a branding iron, like cattle. Not a great headline.",
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"content": "They are being marked like cattle, they are being dehumanized, reduced to numbers and meat rather than names and faces. Just because they aren’t being burned with glowing hot metal before being led to concentration camps doesn’t mean they aren’t being branded.",
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"content": "I don't disagree-- that *is* what's happening. I just think the article title could've said something like \"branded with markers,\" if only because the current title's ambiguity gives people an excuse to write it off as biased or dishonest.",
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"content": "Headlines are designed to grab the reader’s attention, it needs to be succinct and descriptive at the same time. This is Journalism 101, “branded with markers” is not succinct and makes the headline less attention grabbing.",
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"content": ">it needs to be succinct and descriptive at the same time.\n\nThat's my issue with the headline: It isn't descriptive. The person you initially responded to assumed it was done with a branding iron, as did I, and presumably, other people. It's an attention-grabbing headline, sure, in part because it evokes extremely visceral imagery. But it's imagery of something that didn't actually happen, and that creates a situation where somebody can read the article and think, \"Oh, it isn't as bad as I thought,\" which isn't really the reaction you want someone to have when they read an article about a horrifying atrocity.",
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"content": "Yeah but at least someone read it.\n\nIf that is the reader’s reaction to the article and not disgust at what is happening to the Palestinian people, then I don’t think that reader was an ally/ or was willing to have their mind changed by an article.",
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"content": "No, in fact we don't need to give people false impressions in order to grab attention. People are already against what is happening over there. As a matter of fact if you lie to people they will see it as \"crying wolf\" and tune out more often.",
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"content": "Me after reading about what's happening in Gaza right now",
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"content": "Can I ask you a serious question; how did you feel or what were your thoughts at the time about the last 10+ years of civil war in Syria? \n\nI’m not trying to make a “what aboutism” argument or any argument at all, I’m just curious about what people who are aware and upset by the horrors happening in Gaza felt about Syria over the previous decade.",
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"content": "I think the death of 16,000 kids in one year is very unique and upsetting for any normal person",
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"content": "I'm from a rural area. I can't name one policy a Republican has talked about that would help my home town.\n\nIt was barely talked about but expanded broadband internet was something good dems have done. Also the ACA did disproportionately help rural folk even if there is a misconception of it out there.\n\nSo to dominate elections moving forward it seems they should brand a good amount of their policy on how to help rural areas. Idk why they haven't tried something like that.",
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"content": "Most of the IRA and Chips Act money has gone to [red states and red areas](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/business/manufacturing-jobs-biden/index.html). Policy and facts and real outcomes no longer matter. Only what the right-wing propaganda machine tells them.",
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"content": "This is the actual answer. Its more important to tell them we helped than to actually help. Which is pathetic, but it is what it is.",
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"content": "Not just to tell them \"we helped\". In fact, I'm not even sure that is necessary.\n\n\nConservative media keeps their voters by assuaging the their ego and manipulating their insecurities.\n\n\n\"*You* are the real Americans.\"\n\n\n\"Your gut feelings about things (that we planted) are more factual than what experts say. You are smart and know everything you need to know.\"\n\n\n\"You have been victimized. All your problems can be pinned on groups you already don't like and which we will help you to hate more.\"\n\n\nWe are in a post-fact world, and likely now a post-fact, post-democracy country.",
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"content": "Daylight savings time this year ends on Nov 3. Two days before Election Day. \n\nIf Trump wins, every single goddamn Liberal Hot Take Artist on Twitter is going to spam some variation of \"this year we set our clocks back 400 years!\" It's already starting and the election isn't even over yet!\n\nKamala winning could help retire this incredibly played out joke. \n\nThat's it, that's my closing argument ",
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"content": "We CANNOT allow four more years of Covfefe jokes #I'mWithHer",
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"content": "Drumpf 😤",
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"content": "NGL John Oliver doesn't miss often but when he does, he does hard. The elements are there in the abstract, especially with it being proven that only petty bullshit sticks to Trump while actually serious shit slides right off (compare the devastating effect of \"his crowd sizes are small\" to what \"he's literally, no exaggeration, a repeat rapist\" managed), but it was just such a sweaty forced meme that it's embarrassing that people even picked it up and tried to make everyone PokemonGoWithIt.",
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"content": "I've noticed among my friends who fit such a category and some Leftist streamers, a profound lack of fear for the potential of a Trump presidency. I even saw Xanderhal state that he'd consider Trump over Newsom - \"Here's the thing though Trump would take your rights away, Newsom would take my rights away\" \n \nIt felt surprising to me the lack of concern for the danger Trump poses and is making me question whether the fear i've seen online is just from all other demographics and that maybe Leftist white male Allies are just simply not personally worried about it.",
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"content": "I'm not American and I don't know who newsom is. I googled him and had a quick glance but what makes him anti leftist straight white cis males? No snarky responses please just tell me what he's actually being accused of I'm not watching a fucking xanderhal video",
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"content": "Newsom isn't in my view, he's just a Lib who is apparently somewhat anti Gun. I just think the some Straight white Cis males don't fear Trump because they're under the false assumption that under a Trump presidency their rights wouldn't be affected or something",
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"content": "then why tf would xanderhal say that then, isn't he a leftie or something as well",
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"content": "Any terminally online zoomer whining about “sex positivity going too far in our society” has some required reading to do",
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"content": "The existence of the porn industry has only led to the proliferation of immigrant woman subjugated to years in the porn industry as a form of repayment to coyotes. And that’s only one form of coercion the legalization of porn has allowed for.\n\nWomen in the industry are also bound by contract to endure the most degrading treatment in order to keep the studio competitive.",
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"content": "I don't doubt that the mainstream porn industry is filled with exploitation and abuse, but I don't think making the industry fully black market will improve the situation. Stronger regulations and workers rights seems like the better way to go to me.",
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"content": "I’d rather have a smaller “black market” than a much larger legal one. Pretty much everything should be done to combat its mere existence.",
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"content": "A new wave of Bernie or Busters",
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"content": "I actually ran into 4 people in front of my grocery store collecting signatures for Cornel West to get on the ballot.\n\nI said \"fuck no\".\n\nAt least they ain't getting my signature.",
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"content": "IT HAS NEVER BEEN THIS JOEVER - Vaush",
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"content": "MSNBC had some good points [here](https://youtu.be/SctGLf35HLw?si=pR-0_gA_OsYTFu9n) post-press conference.\n\nThey theorized that Biden's set himself up for a graceful stepdown. There's rumours that [dozens of Democrats](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/potentially-dozens-of-democrats-expected-to-call-on-biden-to-step-aside-after-nato-conference/) are going to be calling on Biden to step down post-NATO conference. Biden said he was staying in the race, but was also heavily praising Kamala as a replacement. He said that he was the best to beat Trump, but said others could be better. For the first time he gave conditions to a theoretical step-down, if polls showed he couldn't beat Trump and if he had his close advisors all come to him and tell him so.\n\nI think there's a real chance we see Biden step down as nominee by the end of the month, potentially in the next week or two.\n\n>House Democratic leadership has indicated to members that they should speak their minds, multiple sources told CBS News. One of those well-placed sources predicted that the next three to four days will be \"brutal,\" and that it may become untenable by sometime next week for the president to continue in the race. ",
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"content": "Yeah, I’ve been arguing with people a bunch on this platform about Biden stepping down. A lot of them are deluded thinking that Biden is a really good candidate who gave a really good speech to NATO",
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"content": ">A lot of them are deluded thinking that Biden is a really good candidate who gave a really good speech to NATO\n\nThe only people believe that he's a \"really good candidate\" are the primary voters that picked him in 2020. He however has been a good president and has gotten things done, BUT the results of his actions are slower to see than the flubs. \n\nNo he didn't give a really good speech. He's an old man and he sounds like it. He did sound coherent with his typical gaffes. \n\nPete Buttigieg with a career in the Navy is probably the best the Dems have to offer as a Biden replacement. A Harris and Buttigieg ticket might be the the only viable alternative. \n\nOr just vote for Biden. He resigns a year into his second term and we get a President Harris and VP Pete anyways.",
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"content": "Yeah, apart from the Zionism and the weakness with that Abbot razor wire situation, he has been a pretty good president. That being said, I don’t think he has it in him for another 4 years, especially if this is what he’s currently like",
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"content": "Don’t forget the railroad union, not packing the court to avoid the horrific recent SCOTUS decisions, proposing the most right-wing legislation on immigration I’ve ever heard a Democrat support, and not stepping aside for a younger generation after his first term like he promised.",
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"content": "Didn't he get the railroad union everything they wanted three weeks after that?",
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"content": "Maybe? Do you have a source for that? I don’t remember hearing anything about it.",
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"content": "[Here's](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute) the wiki for that event",
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"content": "Did Biden help facilitate that? I didn’t see that in there",
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"content": "I guess he took the memo about his wanna be assassin possibly being a republican ",
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"content": "This is good though because it damages a lot of the sympathy he would've otherwise received. \n\nDude LOVES to go on the attack but the shooter allegedly being on his side of the aisle prevents a lot of the tactics they could typically use to generate \"positive\" build for himself. Trump hates unity talk, but this was his only move since he can't attack Democrats over it now.",
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"content": "> Trump hates unity talk\n\nSo does his base, they want nothing more than to be told its open season on anybody they don't like.",
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"content": "Oh believe me I know. I heard what my neighbors talking last night while I was walking my dog. \n\nThey were saying ANY Democratic voter is responsible for what's taking place.",
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"content": "Kyle is just wrong. People can have bad takes without automatically becoming grifters.",
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"content": "Words don't mean anything anymore.",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "Conspiracy brained nonsense. It'll still be Kamala, they just want more appearance of proper democracy and protocol than a coronation.",
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"content": "It is not \"conspiracy brained nonsense\" - we don´t know what candidate the Pelosi-ites want, and we have no indication it´s Kamala.",
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"content": "The whole reason for the push is concern that Biden can't win. They want to win. Kamala is the only candidate with a prayer this late in the game, the only candidate without campaign finance concerns, the only candidate that the GOP has no shot to sue for ballot hijinx.\n\nThere's \"no indication\" who it would be because they don't want it to look like party elites choosing, but we all know who it is.\n\nNot to mention that it is ONLY Biden's choice, as he \"won\" the \"primary\", and he'll make sure it's his VP.\n\nY'all gotta stop working yourselves up over nothing. It's out of our control regardless so dumb thing to worry about imo.\n\nBut you do you.",
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"content": "Inshallah",
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"content": "They shouldn't do it because Hilary ran a bad campaign but it'd be great if they just reused the exact same slogans and everything and it worked this time",
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"content": "If they do that, Hillary would pull a Budd Dwyer.",
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"content": "Hey Bud, nice shot",
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"content": "Im unsure in my opinion on it replacing most jobs I keep going back and forth on if it will or won’t in the next couple years to decades what do you all think? ",
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"content": "It might affect the tech sector pretty badly, but ultimately a lot of labor is well... Labor. AI is a workaround/cheat for computing power, trying to make it not need human direction.",
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"content": "What about doctors and lawyers?",
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"content": "It's likely that there will be attempts to start \"auto arbitrating\" some cases, but I think it'll be a minimal impact on the profession in general. Doctors, I think it'll do a lot of \"online medical clinics\" where it'll just try to be a juiced up version of WebMD. End of the day though you're gonna need a person to actually see that scratchy bit on your throat.",
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"content": "Source: https://x.com/ryanobles/status/1810444530120003818?t=pli0VpBG6Ld9CDdzatsv3Q&s=19",
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"content": "Okay, we will vote for geriatric Joe, but the main question is can he beat Trump?",
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"content": "Every vote for biden is a vote against Trump, people just gotta understand that biden has done well and that all this stupid drama is just that, drama. If all this doubt ends he definetly can, more so if the Epstein and project 2025 things are pushed more and more towards the general public.",
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"content": "Will he win over independents / undecideds?\n\n**Can't believe people are undecided about criminal rapist Trump**",
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"content": "He probably cannot win them on merit alone, thats why we need to push harder on the Bad of project 2025 and the new info on trump-epstein, to at least keep them undecided and turn regular republicans into undecided/non-voters.",
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"content": "If undecided voters cared about policy, there would have been a Blue Wave in 2022 after Roe v Wade. Instead, the GOP won House seats in New York and California - of all places. Meanwhile, the former swing state of Florida is now a deeper Red state after Roe v. Wade was overturned. \n\nI'm still voting for Biden. I'm having a hard time believing he'll do better this year given how he barely won agaisnt Trump in '20 in spite of the fact he completely fucked us during COVID. He had at least a 9/11 amount of people dying every single day for nearly 7 months; and 3 states and 44k votes separated Trump and Biden from a tie. If this is the best The Dems can do, then I'm definitely voting but I'm also gonna help my friends get their passports ready. If that makes my behavior \"doomer\" because all you liberals still dont know how to use words correctly, then what does that make your behavior? At least I have a plan no matter what happens. \n\nWatch: the liberals first plan is to attack what is left of the non-existent left in this country like somehow this is 1932 Weimar Germany and the leftists make up the 2nd largest political party in the country.",
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"content": "Thing is 4 years have passed, tons of young people Will get to vote for the first time (actually an interesting situation for me as I got to vote on México and Will get to vote in the usa), and this drama and doubt i'm sure doesnt help them get less nervous about voting.\n\nI don't think its doomer to be ready if anything happens. Great on You for voting but still being prepared for anything that happens actually.",
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"content": "My biggest fear is that other countries are just as cooked as the US is. The US media conglomerates have been pushing transphobia in nearby countries SO HARD.",
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"content": "Let me put this into perspective. I am a teacher, and back in the first year I was teaching the Kids engaged in a meme called \"Devious Lick\" where they destroyed the bathrooms and other belongings of the school. When I warned them against this behavior I told them \"There is no bottom limit to how miserable we can make school for you guys.\"\n\nWell, the kids didnt listen, and one student stole a soap dispenser and another jumped on a Sink until it broke off. The school went full survielance state. Kids had to schedule their bathroom breaks, and only see-through backpacks were allowed. Now I think this is miserable, but it proves a point.\n\n\"Just do a Revolution bro\" Leftists have no fucking clue what they are talking about. Internet being monitored for words like \"Organize, Community, Mutual-aid\". Gatherings of more than 5 people being banned. Cameras in front of your doors. VPNs being a crime to use. Secret Police informants, deputized Proud boys. Sword Rockets mailed directly to your car. \n\nIt can be unbelivably bad and these Leftist Coffee and Book Clubs that meet on Tuesday arent gonna be able to do shit. There will not be a revolution. We will be waiting for years for the American Glasnost. \n\nEDIT: I wanna mention the specific attitude im seeing is accelerationist Lefties claiming that Project 2025 openly fascist America will trigger a revolution. Ask the Russian Federation how that's going for them. ",
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"content": "I think this is because you disengage with the fact that homelessness is rising and that online commentators are getting tired of it. You'll hear more of this as times get even more tough with Trump becoming president and more people perceive this as being more harmful than a liberal president in power.",
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"content": "Homelessness is rising (possibly) because of NIMBY policies that many leftists in blue cities support because the alternative is developers will make a profit. Rent dropped by 8-10% in the past year in Austin not because of socialism and public housing coming to the Lone Star state, but because of pretty libertarian policy I don't think is enough, but is sure doing a lot.",
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"content": "Pretty much all quality of life metrics, health education crime rate violence/domestic etc- are better per capita in blue cities in blue states vs comparable blue cities in red states, in red cities in blue states vs comparable red cities in red states, and finally in blue states vs red states.\n\nInvesting heavily infrastructure is always better 100 percent of the time, and it even shows itself in the corrupt ass US lol.",
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"content": "Oh sure, blue cities are better, which is in part why housing there is more expensive, because lots of people want to live there, because they're nice places to live. \n\nBut, part of the Democratic shift in places like Texas is partly aging, but also partly a bunch of people moving to Texas not because their wildly conservative, but because housing in Houston is half the price of housing in Los Angeles.",
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"content": "Interestingly enough, when looking at median expenses, pay, etc etc , you have money more after bills+utilities+etc in Cali than Texas.\n\nAlso- it's deeper than just blue>red in cities---- red cities in blue states are better than comparable red cities in red states.",
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"content": "We introduced odor to gas years ago, why haven’t they fixed the leak yet?",
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"content": "The leak was fixed, the problem is that they have a taste for it now, a yearning that no ambient leak could possibly provide. Anna and Cenk have traded in their reasonable cars they had before for Hummers, and just suck in the exhaust through a hose. Whenever they aren't on camera? They're hitting the hose. Camera's on Anna? Cenk is hitting the hose. Camera's on Cenk? Anna is sucking in that sweet sweet monoxide. Then they just drop the hose behind the desk.",
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"content": "I am never washing this hand ever again ",
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"content": "Why'd they remove your hand",
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"content": "Secret service are just kinda intense like that. Probably have a rule about only holding for so long. \n\nAlso, I'm a skinhead. I'm a S.H.A.R.P. (Skinheads against racial prejudice) but still. I get profiled sometimes. At the last rally when I was on the corner right next to Mark Kelly and Ruben and Giffords and all of them. The secret service were STARING ME DOWN hardcore. They didn't glare at anyone else but they made the most intense eye contact with me the whole time. \n\nSo like, from the agents perspective. This skinhead is holding onto his hand too long, could be trouble, better remove his hand and keep Walz moving through the crowd. \n\nSo like, I get it. To be entirly honest I wasnt even aware I was still holding on I just got lost in the moment 😅",
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"content": "Ooh, I must join this SHARP club. I've been shaving my head for 2 decades lol. Less of a skinhead look because of facial hair but I'm sure a lot of ppl assume I'm a Maga type.",
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"content": "Litterally part of why i started making my bleach shirts is because I got fucking sick of people assuming I was a nazi so I wanted to indicate which side I'm on.",
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"content": "100%. I personally love defying expectations. I got the MAGA red t-shirt that says TRUMP IS A SCAB to go with the camo and blaze orange \"Harris/walz hat lol. So I look like a total MAGA head until you actually read em.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Potential VP pick Josh Shapiro covered up the murder of a school teacher in Philadelphia and ruled it a suicide. The state Supreme Court recently overturned his ruling.",
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"content": "I really hope Dems don’t pull another DNC moment and shoot themselves in the foot by choosing him.",
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"content": "He would be as bad if not worse than vance\n\nI'm very confident she won't pick him\n\nHowever one caveat, she's known him for over 20 years\n\nIf she did pick him I would assume it's because of some sort of blackmail, he has something on her.\n\nThis is known as the Lieberman trap\n\nIf she can avoid the pressure of the media trying to force her to pick Shapiro she will win\n\nIf she falls for the Lieberman trap it's all over",
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"content": "Never dismiss the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory",
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"content": "Queen AOC saying the truth. ",
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"content": "She is absolutely right. We need to cut off those offensive arms shipments and immediately stop the atrocities in Gaza and also Lebanon. Netanyahu needs a firm reality check for all of the horrifying shit he has done.",
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"content": "Three weeks. I believe in there being a time and a place for things, so three weeks. I expect the day after the election some people in Kamala world had better start talking about shutting this shit down. At that point, the die will be cast. I don’t expect her to lay out a full plan especially since we don’t know if she will win. But I do expect her team to acknowledge the atrocities. The American people will be paying attention.",
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"content": ">The American people will be paying attention.\n\nLmao, no, they really won’t be. The vast majority of citizens here either don’t care at all about Gaza or Lebanon, or they are siding with Israel; even those on the left. \n\nI know it’s a small sample but every person I know IRL who’s voting for Kamala don’t care about foreign policy. I was literally told by one of my roommates that Israel could turn Gaza into a parking lot and it would mean basically nothing to what happens here.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I love this man. ",
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"content": "Corbyns domestic policies would have been great for the UK. But his opposition to the EU, and general foreign policy (like with Ukraine) was not great. It's also kind of like how Trump received a record number of votes in 2020 but still lost. The UK media has run such a scare campaign against Corbyn that lots of people will vote against him rather than for the other candidate. So overall I think Labour was right in dropping Corbyn tbh. It's better to win with Starmer than to lose with Corbyn. That's not to say that picking the more center candidate is always the right choice. I think Sanders would have won handily in 2016 for example. Every case is different and there are many differences between Sanders and Corbyn and between the UK and US election system, media and electorate and all that that make the differences here imo.",
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"content": "> So overall I think Labour was right in dropping Corbyn tbh.\n\nLabour MPs are the ones who ran the scare campaign.",
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"content": "As in the US centrists (Liberals) would do almost anything to avoid the left taking power. Often including handing power to the right.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Something’s cooking. ",
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"content": "Is this an official message, or just a random poll taker?",
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"content": "The website linked says that it is not authorized by any candidate or committee",
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"content": "All that means is it’s not a candidate’s internal poll.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I've noticed among my friends who fit such a category and some Leftist streamers, a profound lack of fear for the potential of a Trump presidency. I even saw Xanderhal state that he'd consider Trump over Newsom - \"Here's the thing though Trump would take your rights away, Newsom would take my rights away\" \n \nIt felt surprising to me the lack of concern for the danger Trump poses and is making me question whether the fear i've seen online is just from all other demographics and that maybe Leftist white male Allies are just simply not personally worried about it.",
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"content": "Small potatoes, but I’m gonna be pretty pissed if this banning porn thing takes off.\n\nAlso, common Xan L.",
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"content": "Do people dislike Xanderhal now? I stopped watching him a while ago because he just didn't have any interesting analysis to contribute, but I didn't think of him as problematic.",
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"content": "Xan is the kind of Vaushite to say he misses 2019 Vaush. Of course, my perception of him is colored by the fact that I’ve seen little of his content. I mostly hear about him from posts like the above. I don’t know if he’s a *bad guy*, I just think he frequently has bad takes.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Anti trans stuff is already insanely unpopular him coming out against HRT for all ages looks terrible and will motivate people to vote for the dem even if it’s Biden. ",
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"content": "That’s Trump for you. He knows how to keep his base energized but he has no effing clue how to expand it.",
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"content": "He jingles the keys in front of MAGA like no one else while almost all of the former McCain and Romney voters flee to vote blue. If Trump loses this year and dies before 2028, MAGA will be in deep trouble.",
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"content": ">If Trump loses this year and dies before 2028\n\nDear God, baby Jesus, and the Unholy Underloard Satan please make this come true.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "It's all Joever. But like, in a good way I think. Permission granted to overdose on hopium. ",
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"content": "Seeing all the Conservatives and republicans freak out is enough to keep me going for days. That alone shows this was the right move. They are scared and fumbling, and they have *nothing*",
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"content": "*And Trump is the old geezer now! Hmmmm! How the tables have turned!*",
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"content": "You're extremely optimistic if you think Trump's age is suddenly going to matter.",
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"content": "It’s more of a joke. *An Uno reverse card, if you will.*",
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"content": "Well, I suppose that's better than crying, I'll take that joke.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Sorry I stopped reading right after GeNoCiDe JoE. If you want to be taken seriously stop deploying these dumbshit nicknames. She sounds like a republican.",
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"content": "agree. it's a dogshit take. zero nuance, zero uncertainty. not a serious person",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Karlyn Borysenko now openly embracing fascism",
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"content": "The anti-woke liberal to fascist pipeline in action",
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"content": "Not so much a pipeline as it is a dot.",
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"content": "The Venn diagram is just a circle",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "“But Iran” is the new thought-terminating cliche",
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"content": "Iran likes oranges, so oranges must be bad",
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"content": "Iran sponsors Russian genocide in Ukraine",
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"content": "I'm not saying \"Iran good\", I'm saying \"not literally everything that Iran participates in / endorses is inherently bad\"",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "Could be. I think its just them trying to not look like they are just appointing Kamala. If its open and then Kamala easily wins (and wins quickly) then it would look democratic and make the party look united. ",
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"content": "I am *very* skeptical of anything being driven to this extent by donors. For all we know they could be trying to push the American equivalent of Keir Starmer on us",
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"content": "Joe Biden is \"the American equivilent of Kier Starmer\"",
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"content": "Me when I don’t care about trans rights at all",
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"content": "The only reason that Starmer is worse on trans rights is the power that TERF's have in the Labour Party which they largely don't in the Democrats",
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"content": "Ehhh Dem elites have a lot of dumb and privileged David Shor-esque contrarians who think constantly making concessions to social conservatives will stop the bleeding with WWC voters",
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"content": "That's true, but they don't have the same level of power \n\nThe political environment is just different in the UK, thats why Biden is pro trans while starmer is not, its not because Biden is much more \"progressive\" than starmer",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Oh its super Joever now",
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"content": "Could only read the title. Fuck pay walls, Obama to the rescue?",
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"content": "Fuck paywalls. [Archived article](https://archive.ph/sSKnj). \n\n> Obama has spoken with Biden only once since the debate, and he has been clear in his conversations with others that the future of Biden’s candidacy is a decision for the president to make. He has emphasized that his concern is protecting Biden and his legacy, and has pushed back against the idea that he alone can influence Biden’s decision-making process.\n\n> Behind the scenes, Obama has been deeply engaged in conversations about the future of Biden’s campaign, taking calls from many anxious Democrats, including former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and has shared his views about the president’s challenges, according to people with knowledge of the calls, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.",
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"content": "> He has emphasized that his concern is protecting Biden and his legacy\n\nIs part of that legacy at all concerned with being the last president of a democratic America?\n\n...\n\nFuck. He might actually want to get that title?",
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"content": "What a prestigious honor. Everyone remembers and loves Kurt von Schleicher.",
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"content": "No, but everyone remembers Hindenburg.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Seems a bit extreme to just cancel the whole tour",
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"content": "Apologizing isn’t metal",
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"content": "Tenacious D isn't metal. It's pop comedy. I know that will probably piss people off, but it's the truth.",
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"content": "It’s definitely not pop. It’s comedy metal, but not pop.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I really am having a hard time understanding this. I know there's the optics issue of the progressive wing attacking Biden from the outside, but if that were it, why wouldn't they just mostly stay out of the conversation?",
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"content": "no idea, but now with a new candidate we might get 2 more Dem terms, hopefully this time they reverse things the Reps did instead of just letting them be.",
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"content": "Whatever hopium you're smoking, I want a cut. This just seems like going from a weak position to an infinitely worse one.",
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"content": "Kamala has all of the advantages of Joe with few of the downsides. What is bad about her beyond her being somewhat charismatic (Joe’s Charisma was lost after 2020).",
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"content": "What advantages? She's a dark-skinned woman with a foreign name, I don't see how that's more electable in every one of those swing states this sub has been freaking out over.",
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"content": "America voted for a man named BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA twice, and won states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Indiana, and Iowa. Cocanutcels in shambles, burdened by what was and afraid of what can be.",
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"content": "Maybe talk like a real person if you want to convey an actual point.\n\nThis isn't 2008 anymore, America *barely* voted in the most well-spoken black man one could find, and Kamala is not Obama.",
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"content": "Your right it's not the same country, America isn't more racist than it was in 2008, but the right is more mask off racist now. They wont resist calling her the most racist shit they can, screaming about \"woke\" and \"dei\", they will Butcher their own talking points just to be racist, this puts off most American independents and takes time away from their winning talking points",
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"content": "It's nice that you have so much faith in American independents.",
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"content": "I do actually",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Some good news: In this poll Trump saw no polling bump from the assassination attempt.",
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"content": "In a [comment over the weekend](https://old.reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/1e323xs/biden_campaign_pausing_communications_in/ld5gm35/) I had mentioned what the maximum polling boost Trump could see from this based on the Reagan shooting was around 10 points. In the first poll since the shooting, Trump has seen no bump at all, while Reagan saw a 14 point boost. Trump picking JD Vance killed his chance for a sympathy boost because Vance immediately blamed Biden for the shooting. It's entirely possible Trump is going to go down in the polls as a result of the convention because of the violent rhetoric they've continued to spew in a time they needed to shut that shit down. \n\nRemember, polls aren't predictive, they're an invention of the devil, and no matter what they say, we must vote against Trump. But it's still good news that Trump shat the bed on gaining sympathy here.",
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"content": "> Trump picking JD Vance killed his chance for a sympathy boost because Vance immediately blamed Biden for the shooting.\n\nI genuinely have no words here, this is amazing.",
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"content": "Which is extremely funny, as that's probably one of the reasons why Trump decided to choose Vance",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "They don't have a plan outside of trying to push Biden out. It's ridiculous.",
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"content": "Yeah that’s not a good strategy. If I was managing the DNC, my optimal strategy would be convincing Biden to step down, put Kamala in, and help find a good, appealing VP.",
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"content": "To Nobody’s Surprise Netanyahu is Extremely Happy Right Now",
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"content": "I hope anyone who wanted to stop the bloodshed but sat out is thrilled with their epic owning of the libs. RIP rest of Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, maybe major chunks of Iran at this point... And Ukrainians. And more..",
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"content": "For what little it's worth, it seems like the Stein voters have been completely irrelevant.",
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"content": "Yeah. I think the bigger issue was left leaning voters who just abstained.",
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"content": "Not just left leaning. With how much fewer votes Harris got than Biden, I don't think it's just leftists being morons here.",
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"content": "I wonder how much turnout dropped. Trump won the popular vote but I feel like we are going to see a lower turnout overall from 2020. Hell.. I wonder how 2022 compared to 2024.",
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"content": "RBG all over again.",
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"content": "I remember how everyone praised her as a woman of strength and determination before and when she died… turns out risking everything at that age and holding onto personal power puts the entire country at risk.",
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"content": "I am seriously concerned that if Biden drops out the replacement will not be on the ballot in several swing states",
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"content": "Yes, but Biden is so old, he could die before the election. Have you thought about that? The replacement (whomever it may be) is less likely to die.",
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"content": "I mean, that's why there is a VP if he dies he is gonna replaced by Kamala anyways so it makes no sense to me to replace him now. This whole situation is just fucking stupid to me. Like what I am most concerned about is that Kamala is not that much more popular than Biden and unfortunately a fact is that she is a black woman which you might think we are over this type of racism but it does affect elections. That is an unfortunate reality of racism and sexism. Biden appeals to the white old male vote who are the most likely to vote since old people have the highest turnout. Also, I would hope undecides/moderates/independents would vote for a corpse over Trump he is morally a horrible person but I don't know until the election happens to be sure. Maybe they are horrible enough to vote for a literal fascist.",
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"content": "Idk I think if they don’t replace him and run the corpse turnout won’t be enough and we will end up with trump. I’m worried about enthusiasm and turnout and keeping him in doesn’t raise either of those. This would be a big Hail Mary and dominate the media’s election coverage and in a more positive light. The racists were already voting for Trump and they don’t outnumber the youth and left leaning voters. Honestly, Biden shouldn’t have run again and a lot of these people knew he wasn’t capable years ago. But from a personal experience, my dad is the most centrist voter out there he literally watches bill maher for funzies and he has been wanting Biden to drop since the debate. That debate performance really showed people that Biden just can’t do it.",
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"content": "I know this is a niche subject but for any fellow vaush gym heads you might want to know Dr. Mike from Renaissance periodization is a race realist and dog whistled his views to his audience. Here is the original video https://youtu.be/WBZGgrgMwvU?si=jyfRW-pNmq1ke8JH",
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"content": "Not surprised. Bodybuilding has a pretty pervasive conservative right wing problem unfortunately. I cant tell if its a product of the influencers influencing their viewers to become more right leaning or if their audiences are making them pander to them, but it's a problem non the less",
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"content": "I wish more libs got into weightlifting. \n\nI'm not that strong, but it feels so good whenever I'm able to push myself and lift more",
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"content": "I think its more that right wingers tend to do it because of insecure masculinity so they are often loud about it.",
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"content": "Biden tests positive for Covid-19",
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"content": "Could the writers of this season hire a story editor. This is getting ridiculous.\nI mean there's more unfinished plot threads then the Game of Thrones Finale. Who starts new subplots NOW?",
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"content": "Ironically, George RR Martin.",
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"content": "Biden's going to be used to get someone else to run with their promised consort. Anyone more familiar with the lore who might be able to say who that would be?",
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"content": "Yeah this one was an L for Vaush. His reaction was knee jerk and transparent.",
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"content": "So I am one of those who thinks Biden should step aside. Plenty of people seem to agree on that. But there seems to be far less agreement about who should replace him. \n\nKamala seems the orthodox choice but she has a likability problem, especially among the left, and there’s of course some bigotry-related obstacles for her overall. \n\nPeople put up a whole host of Governors as alternatives, and we certainly can’t afford to lose any Senate seats, so this seems a better route. But a lot of these people have their own issues. \n\nThe way I see it, there’s only two real options. Either we want to hold on to some of the incumbency advantage (if there is any) and go with Harris. Or we make a total break and pick a Governor, and I think out of all those Newsom is the best bet. He’s got problems but to my mind they’re far more manageable than the others. Whitmer, I think will be dragged by the left for her statements regarding Gaza and it’ll snowball from there the more she’s in the spotlight. \n\nBut what are your thoughts?",
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"content": "No way, their Israel stance would tank them among the base",
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"content": "What is there stance on Israel?",
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"content": "Whitmer waffles and Shapiro is a full on Israel supporter",
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"content": "Is this any different than the rest of the potential candidates?",
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"content": "Just hours after Biden stepped down, his campaign has officially filed the paperwork to hand it over to Harris for President, and she is raking it in from grassroots donos. CocoMomala is unburdened ",
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"content": "I haven’t been as politically engaged this election since everything has been so fucking awful lately, but hearing about the dems putting pressure on Biden to step down gave me hope. Then he actually fuckin did it. I chipped in $25 as soon as I saw Biden’s endorsement post. I was never going to donate to genocide Joe. It’s a new day and there’s no doubt in my mind she will be a marked improvement for the people of Gaza than the previous candidates we were dealing with.",
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"content": "I am not American and I am not nearly as familiar with her politics as I am with Biden's. So is she more pro-Palestine or at least less Zionist than Biden?",
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"content": "Iirc she tried to push for pro Palestinian policies behind closed doors",
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"content": "She's walking on eggshells, not wanting to leak DMs so to speak, but the general vibe I'm getting is that if Biden drops out, we're not getting Harris, there's no unified plan, and everyone in the party is gonna be pushing for their own interests, culminating in an open convention and it's going to be a shitshow.\n\nNow maybe she really is out of the loop and there is a plan being developed, but if that's the case I can't exactly criticize her for being kept in the dark. I know I have zero faith in the Dem leadership to get shit done, why should I expect this time to be different.\n\nI would love to get a Harris/Buttigieg or Harris/Shapiro ticket come November, but if the Dems don't want Harris on the ticket for whatever reason then honestly I think we would be better off with Biden.",
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"content": "I agree its gotta be either biden or Harris. NO on open convention. i think that would be a disaster for us!",
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"content": "I disagree actually. Not only do I think there’s much better candidates than Kamala. I think the open convention is a perfect way to get the media attention and the candidate a little battle hardened for the final push to November. Candidates like Whitmer poll higher better than Kamala and she gives a guaranteed Michigan win.",
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"content": "I just see a huge fight and power grab in that setting. maybe im wrong and that wouldn't happen. but i don't think it will help us win. i really reallly don't want a repeat of 1968!\n\nSo If biden has to step down, im fully on the coconut train here!",
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"content": "The Democrats Released An 80 Page Document Listing their Plans for 2025 and Beyond",
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"content": "Public safety and guns sections predictably dumb af",
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"content": "What’s wrong with universal background checks and banning assault rifles?",
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"content": "Universal background checks? Nothing. Good, I'm onboard.\n\nAssault weapons ban? Losing topic. Turns away single issue voters, basically just feel good legislation that doesn't do anything.",
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"content": "I have NEVER in my entire life seen the Democratic Party as united and lockstep as today. Harris fundraising numbers are astronomical.\n\nTrumps campaign fucked up with Vance and anti-old angle. \n\nWith abortion as an issue, Harris might not be as encumbered electorally by being a woman, and tbh she’s been killing it in speeches. \n\nRepublicans malding. Thank you Joe. We can do this. ",
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"content": "I'm jopeful but I still worry that the assassination attempt brings undecided people to vote trump.",
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"content": "Now that I'm thinking about it, there's some concordance on the thought of \"I wish he didn't miss\" in a way I've never seen before, even among independents. Not even bolsonaro had this reaction when he got knifed. Maybe it's because he wasn't that hurt afterwards, maybe it's because republicans are not using that leverage enough, idk what it is. I really don't know how apoliticals will vote this election, but I think we have a really good shot",
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"content": "I think it’s because Trump is insufferable to most non-MAGA types, even those who will vote for him. No hard evidence to back that statement up. But anecdotally, I definitely heard from some Libertarian Conservatives at the gym “Fuck. He’s never going to shut up about this now.” Or stuff similar to that. \n\nMost people outside of the cult know he’s a conman. Just a useful conman for their own interests.",
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"content": "Clooney gave Obama a heads-up on his damning Biden op-ed — and he ‘didn’t object to it’",
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"content": "Everything Biden says sounds so ironic in this current context. \n\nHe mentions the \"urgency\" to address climate/guns/economy and I'm like, \"Well what's stopping your pokey ass?\"",
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"content": "Well he can’t fix everything by himself even if he was dictator(he’s not)",
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"content": "The supreme court just granted him immunity for everything that could be argued to be related to his presidential duties. Will he use this power?\n\nEdit: I’m getting downvoted but I stand by the fact that it would be funny",
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"content": "Will Biden stay the nominee or will Vice President Kamala Harris become the presidential nominee for the democrats? Will she be able to beat Donald Trump and save democracy? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z",
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"content": ">And anyone who right now wants to prevent Trump from winning, the best thing to do is to stop talking about replacing Biden until an actual fucking PLAN develops\n\nThis makes no sense. If there is a plan or not, or whenever there is a plan we won't be privy to it. Why should the engagement be limited by something no one will know until it happens? If everyone all suddenly stops talking about how much biden sucks then you run the risk of them thinking everyone folded and fell in line behind him, something that is disastrous \n\n>so what good is it to talk about it as if there is?\n\nIf this is the attitude everyone holds then shit wont ever get done. \"Shit sucks suck it up\"? Fuck that jesus Christ\n\nBiden ***isn't*** the nominee yet. Why are people acting like he is. There is no benefit to shutting up for 3 weeks until the convention when this is the *closest* he's ever gotten to maybe, just maybe droping out. If you operate under the thought that Biden sucks, why fall in line before the convention???",
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"content": "I disagree. I want a plan or at least a few people that are open to being nominated. I keep seeing list of \"contenders\" none of which have even said they would try for the nomination and the list include Michelle Obama. What if they push him to finally step down and no one on the list opts to run. Michelle Obama has only stated she explicitly will not ever run, but I'm suppose to just trust this \"plan\". Hard pass.",
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"content": "Why are you entitled to know a plan, a plan that runs the gambit of destroying the democrat party if certain elements are revealed? I swear you guys are more concerned about your anxiety being lightened then actual seeing action taking place",
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"content": "I just read that Newsome, Whitmire and someone else on the list going around have told senior members of the party that they would not run as Harris' VP. Now it was an article about who potential VP would be for Harris, so idk if that means the would accept the presidential. \n\nListen, it's not too much to ask who would actually be trying for the nomination if Biden steps down, especially if the list of options includes a person how has consistently stated they will never run for political office. Yeah, I have some anxiety. Everyone will look really dumb if none of the people this wonder list people are pushing around were even willing to step up. Until I know that, I'm sticking with Biden fully accepting that Harris will take his place if he doesn't make. This isn't a decision to jump into without some known viable options.",
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"content": "The option is Harris, that has been what the reports are saying, that is what the polling is saying, that what laws to keep the funding are saying. The convention is literally create a illusion of democracy \n\nhttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893",
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"content": "There are plenty of reports that party leaders want Harris to step aside to. The article you linked has Pelosi explicitly saying she wants an open convention if Biden steps aside. \n\nThere is also plenty of polling that shows Harris does not perform as well against Trump as Biden does. If the party leaders want to come out and endorse Harris, then they should do that.",
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"content": "What reports?\n\nhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/07/20/politics/democratic-consensus-harris-should-biden-step-aside/index.html\n\nWhat polls?",
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"content": "Why are you giving me articles on the Democratic consensus when I specifically complain about the lack of leadership support??\n\nForbes put together a nice list. Some Harris does better than Biden, some tied, some Biden is up.\n\n[https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/18/heres-how-kamala-harris-performs-in-polls-against-trump-as-she-emerges-as-most-likely-biden-replacement/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/18/heres-how-kamala-harris-performs-in-polls-against-trump-as-she-emerges-as-most-likely-biden-replacement/)",
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"content": "Kamala Harris not even half a month ago would’ve been a terrible presidential candidate. No one knows who they are, they are attitude, comes they are attitude and she comes extremely annoyed off extremely annoying to the American Public.\n\nI’ve seen a lot of people ask why is Kamala Harris now viable and that is because if one thing. \n\nThe first presidential debates.\n\nBesides, making Biden look terrible, the secondary effect was it showed the American pubic how old the candidates were. I’ve seen several people fed up with the fact that there are no new candidates. \n\nThis is where Kamala Harris comes in. That annoying energy when compared to the Dinosaurs, actually looks good.\n\nCombine that with the fact that woman would vote for her in droves and the potential of good VP pics and you have a good potential candidate.\n\nI might be wrong on this, but that’s at least my take on it.",
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"content": "Man I feel like literally any generic Democrat besides Biden and Harris would wipe the floor with trump\n\nHarris is really unpopular so it just scares me, but my money is on her being the nominee",
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"content": "> Harris is really unpopular \n\nIs she though? She was mostly absent and mocked for some memetic appearances here and there, but idk if many people really cared.\n\nI think there is material to work on, with a good team and full dem support. She is not an idiot, she has the energy and she has a politician's flexibility. She would also inherint Biden's successes while being able to distance herself from at least some of the failures. Not ideal or preferable, but there is some potential there.",
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"content": "Keep in mind the \"K hive\" was a thing. For real. She had/has a motivated fan base. Not at Bernie's level, but it is a good sign.",
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"content": "This is why we shouldn’t trust polling. ",
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"content": "Biased polls can be shady in terms of being push polls that are just using their funding as an excuse for covert canvassing, e.g. knocking on thousands of doors to ask \"Would you, hypothetically, still vote for Biden if he were a pedophile?\"\n\nBut with regular election intent questions, they are not stuffing the results with fake data, and even sample biases are more likely to be the result of incompetence than malice.\n\nE.g. Fox News polling is one of the more reliable.\n\nThey do actually use the same professional standards, the candidates themselves do want to know how they are standing for real.",
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"content": "To be fair I have problems with the current standards. Polls consistently underestimate or flat out ignore how left leaning young people are. Pew research put out a poll claiming 18 to 29 year olds are majority republicans. An over 20 point shift from 2022.",
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"content": "Do not look at cross tabs. They are are political dorks astrology.\n\nSeriously the margins of error for a couple dozen people can be can is way more massive, it’s important to look at broad consistent trends.",
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"content": "Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/13/2024-election-campaign-updates-biden-trump-rally/#link-E6S6KETYXZGRBPKBRXNMAL3RAU\n\nYes I know Vaush is talking about it on stream. I want to open up third chat.",
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"content": "Well if he's a Republican like the registration says then this might not do much political harm to the Left/Liberal as thought. Sure the MAGAs won't believe it but the independent and undecided voters will be appalled that someone like Trump has caused so much division that his own supporters are willing to kill him.",
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"content": "Best case scenario is this doesn't hurt Biden, but it still galvanizes MAGA. They're already calling Trump a martyr. I wouldn't say for sure this will affect the actual election, though, Teddy Roosevelt was shot during his \"Bull moose\" speech and still lost his campaign.",
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"content": "Teddy was actually shot AND finished his speech. \n\nHow can he be a martyr if one of his own tried to kill him? The right keep going on about CiViL wAr but didn’t realise that civil war was the friends they made along the way.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "The Democrats Released An 80 Page Document Listing their Plans for 2025 and Beyond",
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"content": "Public safety and guns sections predictably dumb af",
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"content": "What’s wrong with universal background checks and banning assault rifles?",
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"content": "Define \"assault rifle\" by anything other than vibes.",
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"content": "is it joever? (seems like obama isnt endorsing harris)",
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"content": "I'll wait for it. Give it a week or two tops. It just happened and we are still adjusting to a very different political climate.",
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"content": "Every time I see you comment I'm like, \"Yeah. That guy knows how to keep calm under pressure.\" And you are right. The only emotion I feel right now is some optimistic relief that Biden has done a good job and he's willing to hand the keys to the car over. I didn't have it in me to demand it of him, but I think this is for the best. Despite advocating for many bad things over his tenure in public office, I think he has done more to redeem himself than I could've hoped for.\n\nAnd if rumors are true, Kamala has been sharpening her presentation and delivery skills so she might be ready for prime time. If she can roast Trump on abortion a few times and hold her ground against his barrage of lies and fear mongering, I sense the tides of opinion and rhetoric could start to shift dramatically.",
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"content": "I have RES on, which allows me to see how many times I've upvoted somebody's comment. Whenever I see somebody like OP with 30+ upvotes, they tend to have pretty reasonable takes.",
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"content": "BREAKING: Someone just shot at Trump at a rally and grazed his ear. It’s all over the news ",
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"content": "Fuck this could seal Trump's victory.",
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"content": "Not just that, now all the insane militias and far-right paramilitary groups will see this as war.",
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"content": "Yeah this is fucked. Update your passports, shit’s about to get real.",
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"content": "I would argue no where is safe look at international politics",
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"content": "That’s fair and I do understand what you mean, but there are still plenty of places in the world that didn’t just have an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate with a largely armed supporter base.",
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"content": "An open convention can only mean that Pelosi and co. want to push their own candidate, they dont want Kamala, they never did, they dont agree with the majority of his barely progressive policies and they see kamala as an extension of those policies. They are going to push someone to the right of Joe. All of this has been a manufactured ploy by the DNC to screw Biden out of the nomination, this is on par with what was done to Bernie in 2016 and 2020.\n\nEdit: these link didnt post for some[ reason](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/pelosi-support-open-nomination-biden-drop-out-00169893)\n\nEdit 2: The vaush clip i wanted to include isnt working so yeaaaaaah . . .",
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"content": "Or... maybe AOC is out of the loop and doesn't know what she's talking about. We leftists need to get our head out the gutter with this conspiracy thinking. They want biden out because he's old and no one likes him, not because he's secretly a socialist or too left leaning or some bs. \n\nShe's playing the political game just as much as every else here is",
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"content": "Bad take it's hen. Bad take",
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"content": "I disagree. We leftists need to get our head out of the gutter and stop thinking everything is some grand conspiracy. They don't want biden out because they are afraid of how left leaning he is or some bullshit, they are afraid he's going to lose because he's a walking talking corpse, and they are afraid of picking Kamala because she has negative charisma. That's it.",
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"content": "Gas Leak",
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"content": "Sam Seder has more integrity and political instincts than all of TYT combined and it’s not close.",
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"content": "Let’s be honest. Sam Seder has better political instincts than the entire “left” combined. He rarely misses.",
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"content": "Other leftists would've fallen for Tim Pool's 'Thanos' strat, Chad Sam however pushed him over and called it stupid",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "[deleted]\n\n[View Poll](https://www.reddit.com/poll/1e4fhi0)",
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"content": "Would he want to? Yeah, for sure. Being president and/or remaining president is the only way he stays out of jail and can maintain his lifestyle. However, he cannot run for a third term due to a Constitutional Amendment. That would need to be changed by 2/3rds of congress voting to do so...and there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of happening in the next four years. Maybe ever, divided as we are. \n\nNow, I guess...guess...he could take it to the Supreme Court? and yes, they are partisan hacks, etc., but them even entertaining overturning the 22nd amendment (like how could you even argue he has standing? what?) would literally be the end of the republic and a flashpoint to actual capital I insurrection and civil war.\n\nTrump sucks and is a dangerous, dangerous candidate due to his destruction of norms and emboldening of bigots, but as much as he may want to and as bad as Project 2025 sounds, there exist robust challenges towards him actually ending democracy as we know it.",
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"content": "That’s my take. It would be virtually impossible to create a new amendment so the only way to do it would be an outright coup. \n\nAt that point we would be looking at an outright civil war and many people trying very hard to remove Trump from office by any means necessary.\n\nThis isn’t to say he doesn’t pose a threat but I think this specific outcome is unlikely.",
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"content": "And again, it bears repeating that big Capital does not like chaos. They favor ghoulish wealth hording and are all very bad people, but the last thing they want is for the US to have some sort of Irish Troubles period or find Y'all Quaeda barricading off all highways out of Atlanta because Roger Stone told them to. \n\nI find it really, really hard to believe that anyone, even RNC sycophants, would be willing to go along with some full-on coup. The more realistic fear is a second Trump presidency would create thousand cuts to the bureaucracy and judicial system that pushes policy to the right and puts a generations-long damper on the ability of Democrats to succeed at a federal level. So, not a coup per se but an institutional shift towards minority rule.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I heard he told Harris he had no presidential ambitions and he wants to help her which is how he got the job do you think he will change his mind and run in 2032?",
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"content": "I hope he does tbh",
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"content": "There are younger more exciting candidates I would like to see run in 2032",
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"content": "Who?",
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"content": "Buttigieg, newsome, Shapiro, AOC, whitmer. Happy to see walz run if he’s up for it tho!",
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"content": "Not Buttigieg or Shapiro and Newsom isn’t that progressive sadly Whitmer would be great and I think I would rather have AOC as speaker of the house than president",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Wife of dead rally-goer says she hasn’t heard from Trump",
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"content": "[Widow of ex-chief killed in Trump rally shooting reveals his final words – and passed on phone call with Biden](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/corey-comperatore-trump-rally-widow-speaks-b2580299.html)\n\nFrom the article - She also revealed that she had turned down the offer of a condolatory phone call from Joe Biden, saying: \"I didn’t want to talk to him. My husband was a devout Republican and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.\"",
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"content": "You cannot write irony that dramatic. The whole situation is extremely tragic in the classical sense where he died rallying support for a man who wouldn't care enough to spit on his grave but his widow rejects a call from someone actually showing the bare minimum concern. That said these people are clearly scum and I don't pity them even slightly",
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"content": "Her husband's Twitter feed was full of posts talking about killing immigrants and activists.. not shedding tears over him",
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"content": "Sounds like the shooter did the world a favor.",
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"content": "Could have made us two favors 😔",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Electoral College Polling predictions",
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"content": "When Biden wins again, let’s just say we’re gonna be dodging a bullet when that happens",
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"content": "IF he wins, he'll win like Trump survived - by a single inch.",
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"content": "That's how it was always going to be, though. Even in 2020, it was a question of whether Biden or Trump would generate more negative voter turnout. That hasn't changed in the last four years.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "While the average voter is pretty tolerant of coded racism even if they recognize it open stuff like this still makes them uncomfortable and would make right wing independents and moderate republicans less likely to vote. ",
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"content": "This is why I believe the best bet would a Kamala/Buttigieg ticket, because in my heart of hearts I do not think republicans would be able to resist calling Buttigieg a f*ggot",
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"content": "Except Kamala is a charisma void and Pete is the blandest white guy ever. If you think Biden got rolled by Trump, wait to see Harris trying her weak, memorised lines on him. She got stomped by Tulsi Gabbard in the primary ffs, Trump will obliterate her.",
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"content": "Democrats love their bland white guys, so that's a benefit.",
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"content": "They tolerate them. Obama they loved and in 2008 he was not bland",
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"content": "Obama had an aura of charisma and the whole CHANGE // HOPE campaign behind him. That barely counteracted the shrieking racism.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Biden tests positive for Covid-19",
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"content": "- Tests Positive For Covid\n- Covid Worsens\n- Biden Calls He's Dropping Out Due to Health\n- Legacy Salvaged as it was for health reasons and not pride",
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"content": "The good timeline",
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"content": "Now here’s the actual timeline we’re gonna get \n\n> Joevid croaks \n\n> Trump loses the election by one vote but the Supreme Court hands it to him \n\n> the democrats concede and all flee the country \n\n> Bernie gets ass cancer and dies\n\n> Lula gets CIA’d\n\n> Trump tested with immortality drug allowing him to live and rule indefinitely \n\n> Putin wins\n\n> Kate Bush dies\n\n> Clarence Thomas takes immortality drug and clones himself becoming the only judge on the Supreme Court \n\n> Americans are forced to watch prager U with their eyes held open clockwork orange style \n\n> David Lynch and Dolly Parton die in a firey helicopter/motorcycle head on collision \n\n> LGBTQ genocide, pandemic 2.0 inflation, starvation. US enters world war 3 allied with Russia\n\n> Israel, led by Gvir, nukes itself and entire Middle East because Torah prophecy or something",
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