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"content": "They asked 10,000+ people nationally, before and after the debate.\n\n>What the report finds is that Biden held on to 94% of the people who said they would support him before the debate. For Trump, 86% of people who said they would support him before the debate said they would do so after the debate. \n\n>“What we see is that there is some churn –– maybe 10 percent or so of people change what they answer –– but that the net result is not a movement away from Biden,” Lazer says. “If anything, it seems that Biden is holding on to his people somewhat better than Trump.”\n\n>There were very minor shifts between the candidates: 1% of people who said they would vote for Biden before the debate, switched to preferring Trump, while 3% switched from Trump to Biden. Similarly, respondents who said they were unsure who they would vote for before the debate were slightly more likely to switch to preferring Biden after the debate.",
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"content": "This is one poll. The aggregate shows a 2 point drop in support for Biden. [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/)\n\nKeep in mind that 2 points down is really 4 points down because Biden needs to be up by about 2% to have a decent shot at winning. Also 2 points is a massive shift for less than 2 weeks, and I have very good reason to think the decline will continue as more people watch clips of the debate and Biden's age keeps showing (he is only getting older). This is why it is completely obvious that Biden needs to drop out for us to win. He isn't capable of running the campaign necessary to get out of this polling hole.",
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"content": "> Keep in mind that 2 points down is really 4 points down because Biden needs to be up by about 2% to have a decent shot at winning. \n\nThis is not necessarily true. The electoral college advantage changes in election after election.",
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"content": "Trump is already ahead in the electoral college if the election were held today. This is only going to get worse from here on out",
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"content": "> Trump is already ahead in the electoral college if the election were held today\n\nThis is meaningless. If the election were held today, it's possible that voters would've started to pay attention a few months ago, leading to different polling. Changing the date of the election also influences how people interact with the election, making such hypotheticals meaningless.\n\nTrump isn't ahead in anything because the election hasn't happened. In 1988, you would've said that Michael Dukakis will be President because he was polling massively ahead of Bush in July.\n\n> This is only going to get worse from here on out\n\nHow do you know this?",
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"content": "Look Biden will not get better with time and the concerns surrounding his age and ability to run his campaign will continue to come into question and worse people will start questioning his ability to be president. He needs to drop PERIOD anyone saying he should stay in is completely delusional",
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"content": "> Look Biden will not get better with time\n\nThis is true, but also quite possibly meaningless if it turns out the election comes down to fundamentals. The way people are 100% confident one way or the other is a problem. Just accept that you don't know what will happen.\n\nI don't have much of an opinion on whether or not Biden staying in would be good.",
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"content": "Pretty sure based off the aggregate Biden will cost us the house, senate, and presidency if he stays in. He needs to go end of story. Dem voters will vote for whoever the fuck the nominee is. It’s the independents we need to turn out and at this rate they may not even show up. Biden is too weak to convey the message he needs to. Not only that but after the convention the ad blitz the super pac has ready to air in swing states will all be about his age and his flubs. Idk why this is even up in the air the writing is on the wall he needs to go",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "LET US BE UNBURDENED BY WHAT HAS BEEN",
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"content": "It’s so Joever",
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"content": "It's not Joever.\n\nIt has Joenly just begun.",
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"content": ">It has Joenly just begun\n\nIt is Joenly Kamancing.",
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"content": "LET US BE UNBURDENED BY WHAT HAS BEEN",
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"content": "He chose the right thing, good job biden! Now we just gotta get Kamala chosen so all that money wont be frozen up for long and we can go back to bash the fash",
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"content": "All they need to do is NOT run Gavin Newsom and we might have a chance of winning",
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"content": "I want Newsom 'cause he's hot",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "These numbers are dogshit. \n\nSource https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1813620217614069929?t=S_51lm4MCMBHAQMNAnzdhQ&s=19 ",
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"content": "Its very possible once Biden steps aside the potential replacements actually get a boost in polls.",
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"content": "Majority Report is incessantly asking for Biden to step aside, what do y'all think of that?\n\nI can go either way, I just want Trump/Vance to not win if at all possible.",
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"content": "Majority report is out of their freaking mind if they think we can change horses now. That needed to come years ago. 😂 You have to actually build a base for a candidate.",
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"content": "KAMALA NEEDS TO HIT TRUMP ON BEING AN EPSTEIN PEDOPHILE",
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"content": "Not Kamala. This is Biden’s job for the rest of his term now that he’s a lame duck. Attack-dog mode activate!",
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"content": "Did- did you forget who's the one running for president..? Vaush really, *really* needs to do another purge...",
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"content": "Kamala needs to stay above the dirt. Joe can be as nasty as he wants to be BECAUSE HE ISNT THE CANDIDATE. I think maybe YOU need to be purged.",
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"content": "https://youtu.be/d8uMKY_hhtY?si=IDGMUW6QJ67iydGI\n\nSeriously this needs to be talked about ad naseum on every major network. \n\nBut msnbc is a good start",
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"content": "It’s so funny that Trump keeps saying he doesn’t know about Project 2025 but is very clearly lying lol.\n\n“I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for you voters and your phones with a working internet connection!”",
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"content": "Fascists know their policies are unpopular, on Twitter the rightoids are spinning it as if it's \"just a thinktank\" and \"it's conspiratorial to believe it's actual policy\"",
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"content": "When I see them, I am responding to those people with [this link ](https://www.project2025.org/about/advisory-board/)saying 'Oh, hey, look at the official website for this crazy conspiracy listing the 100 conservative groups actively supporting them'.",
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"content": "LET US BE UNBURDENED BY WHAT HAS BEEN",
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"content": "Vaush is probably still sleeping and will be late to steaming this.",
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"content": "This only happened because he was unconscious",
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"content": "Vaush causing chaos by being on vacation or asleep as always... SMH",
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"content": "https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4773262-vance-trump-running-mate-front-runner/",
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"content": "Imo, terrible strategic decision. Vance has many of the same weaknesses as Trump, with few unique strengths. This is a pick that will energize his base, but do little to interest anyone else. The negative media coverage I’ve seen about Vance has preempted this nicely, which is why I assumed Trump wouldn’t pick him… I guess Haley and Lake just didn’t have the gas.",
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"content": "Theory: Vance is going to be Trump's attack dog so Trump can attempt to be more Statesman like and capitalize on the assassination attempt. I don't think this will work, because Trump is Trump, but it is a strategy I guess.",
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"content": ">so Trump can attempt to be more Statesman like\n\nTrump doesn’t have the discipline for this. Even recently his calls for post-assassination-attempt “unity” were clearly insincere.",
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"content": "We are so fucking back",
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"content": "this is tangential but i really despise the \"rapidly conquered\" and prone to surrender stereotypes you see about France. All of these are, at least as far as i know, only referring to what happened in WWII. You think America would be such hot stuff in WWII if we suffered 6 MILLION CASUALTIES just a couple decades prior? Those are the casualties France suffered in WWI. And if you adjust for population size it would've been more than twice as bad for us, as France's population in WWI was 40 million and ours was over 100 million. And its not like they just rolled over for the Nazis, the french resistance is famous. idk its just always irked me like cut em some slack",
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"content": "It also only popped up after France was unwilling to join the war in Iraq. That's where you got Freedom Fries for a while. \n \nLike everything bad in the world, anti-France rhetoric is a right-wing invention.",
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"content": ">That's where you got Freedom Fries for a while.\n\nMeanwhile in France: Those imbeciles don't even know the fries are Belgian.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I love this man. ",
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"content": "I am still impressed by the Lib-Dem's campaign as well. They knew their limits and chose their battles accordingly, picking seats they knew they had a chance to win\n\n\nAlso I wonder if Corbyn could capitalise on the alienated labour votes. Starmer doesn't seem particularly popular among the traditional labour voting base after all",
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"content": "There was a huge grassroots campaign for tactical voting and a non-aggression pact between Labour and the Lib Dems. It wasn't just Lib-Dem brilliance. In big part the Lib Dems did so well because of tactical voting in areas where they were bigger than Labour but the Conservatives were bigger than either. \n\n>Also I wonder if Corbyn could capitalise on the alienated labour votes\n\nIn this election afaik he was only running as an independent in his own seat. He wasn't leading a new party or anything. The risk in general in a FPTP system is that he would only end up splitting the left vote thus handing the Conservatives the victory.\n\nWith some luck Labour will push for proportional representation though (or electoral reform of some kind at least) which would enable Corbyn to start a new Leftist party without the risk of splitting the vote.",
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"content": "> With some luck Labour will push for proportional representation though\n\nNot going to happen while they're one of the two biggest parties.",
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"content": "I disagree, but we'll have to wait and see.",
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"content": "Labour is incentivised to keep the current electoral system because it just handed them a massive majority despite only getting about 35% (I could be wrong on this number) of the vote",
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"content": "Yeah, no shit. But it has also given them 14 uninterrupted years of Tory rule. And they may not even have won this time if it wasn't for tactical voting. Plus people feel that the system is unfair and there's a movement to change it. We'll have to see if they follow through or if party elites are too allured by occasionally gaining complete power and the argument that the conservative (small c) British people don't want change.",
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"content": "Like the Stamarites give a shit about public opinion. They're basically Tories themselves at this stage. They're petty authoritarians that have retreated on their substantial policy goals and have just given ground to the right on immigration, on austerity, on trans rights, on anti-protest legislation, on anything vaguely progressive. Starmar just wanted power, and now he has it. He won't want to risk letting it go",
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"content": "Wes Streeting to agree with Tory ruling on powerful drugs for under 18s as his party toughens stance on trans issues",
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"content": "I’m American so excuse my ignorance but why does the UK try sooo hard to be transphobic assholes. Like I know some of our states are doing equally horrific things, but in the wider cultural conversation transgender issues has lost its electoral salience",
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"content": "Low key because of JK Rowling. She's a massive figure in the UK and has huge influence amongst liberal elites. No question in my mind she's the primary driver of terf island.",
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"content": "I know that's Voosh's theory, but I genuinely don't think it's true.\n\nLook at the difference in the way David Tennant, (or Daniel Radcliffe, or Emma Watson) gets platformed on this issue, and he's a public figure on at least the same level. Plus the TERF stuff started kicking off a couple years before JKR got involved.\n\nJKR gets listened to because the media already wants to be transphobic, not the other way around.",
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"content": "Doesn’t JKR have a lot more money?",
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"content": "And personal friends in Labour.",
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"content": "There are a number of online leftist communities claiming that fascism has never been defeated electorally by liberal democracies. They are saying this now for a few reasons: first, because it looks like Trump will win and the Democratic Party is half-assing their chances with Biden as the nominee. Second, it provides them with an excuse not to vote: if fascists can't be defeated at the ballot box, why vote at all? Third, liberals and fascists are exactly the same, blah blah blah. Fourth, they may be right-wing trolls pretending to be leftists. Watch out for this.\n\nBut their claim is simply not true. In fact, several European countries were on the verge of becoming fascist but resisted by voting the fascists out. In the 1920s fascism was on the rise in France, but a left-liberal coalition called the Popular Front won the 1924 and 1936 elections. The Prime Minister, Léon Blum, banned right-wing paramilitary groups. In fact, the fascists lost so much ground by WWII that Vichy France was run by the traditional right and not the fascist right. Fast forward 100 years and France is doing the exact same thing: Defeating fascism at the ballot box. National Rally just failed to win a majority in the latest election.\n\nSimilar electoral failures happened in Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway and Great Britain. Oswald Mosley failed to win even a single parliamentary seat in 1931, and BUF rabble-rousing was legally curtailed by Public Order Act 1936.\n\nFurthermore, the defeat of fascism was not just due to the left or liberals! In the case of Belgium, a stable conservative coalition defeated the comparatively more extreme Léon Degrelle. Let me be clear: this is in no way an endorsement of conservatism! But it does prove one thing: a conservative wing *can* also help to stop fascists from coming to power. In the US, conservatives who reject Trump could sway the upcoming election significantly.\n\nI understand the leftist contempt for Biden and the failures of liberalism, and I share the same sentiment. But leftists should NOT go around repeating falsehoods such as this! You are giving ground to Trump, and I sure hope you have a plan for whatever happens after your pathetic, misinformed, limp-dick brand of armchair anti-activism fails to stop fascism in the US.\n\nTL;DR: Some leftists are saying that fascism has never been defeated electorally. This is simply not true. There are at least five countries that defeated fascism electorally, and fascists are being defeated electorally to this day.\n\nAll of my sources come from chapter 3 of Robert Paxton's *The Anatomy of Fascism*.",
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"content": "You know how you beat populists? Actually do something for the people. Anyone actually see what France's left is fighting for? Lower retirement age and increased minimum wage. Things we could use, but never get or even talked about by the DNC. Keep doing nothing for the people and see who wins.",
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"content": "Democrats have absolutely been talking about increasing the minimum wage, Biden even *did it* federally. What are you smoking?",
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"content": "Are you talking about the squad? Is raising minimum wage apart of Biden's agenda? There are 300+ million people in this country, raising the minimum wage for 300K people isn't going to help the majority of American's, you know the people you want to vote for you. It's not even given as a first step, it's more of a \"this is all I can do, aren't I great\". Go ahead and show me the commercial Joe Biden or DNC has put out stating how they're going to raise the national minimum wage. \n \nIt's weird how Republican's can pass bill after bill even though the senate and president wouldn't sign it. Democrat's it just a promise to do \"something\", once you get them elected, and then of course do nothing. Do we have the universal healthcare? Is Joe campaigning on it? Are we getting lowered retirement age? I can hear Republican's talk all day about raising it, weird how I can't find prominent Democrat's talking about lowering it. Democrat's strategy is still the old method of Republican's are bad, vote for us so we can do nothing.",
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"content": "Wes Streeting, 7 years ago, saying trans people should be talked to when talking about trans issues. 7 years later, he refuses to talk with trans people whilst he takes away their healthcare.",
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"content": "Now, where are all those people saying \"Vote Labour, they'll move left after they're elected\"?",
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"content": "they could be identical to the tories in every other way except what they've done the past week and it still would've been a worthwhile vote already just to stop the Rwanda bullshit alone",
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"content": "This is easily the worst reason to vote Labour over Tory. \n\nYou do realise the Rwanda policy would only affect a couple hundred people and was going to instantly fail? More people die each year crossing the channel than would have been deported to Rwanda. It was not going to work as a deterrent. \n\nIf Labour was identically to Conservatives in every way except Rwanda you should have voted Conservative. At least Rwanda failing gets us to have a grown up conversation about migration and asylum and takes air away from the far right Reform lot. \n\nAs stupid and inhumane as the Rwanda policy is its not even in the top ten significant changes Labour have made already (and I am a huge critic of Labour).",
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"content": "1. [This is false](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3091223/ohio-dewine-scape-goat-dnc-roll-call-vote/). \n\n2. Yeah, I think he may have gone a bit hard on AOC. \n\n3. The donors are partially behind this move. Remember what AOC was saying herself? They’re not going to be pissed that their idea is working. \n\n4. I think this is a charitable read of her stream, and it’s what I came away with more than anything else. I dislike her pessimism about moving away from Biden, but I agree with her frustration about the timing. It *is* the same people who locked Biden in who are leading this push. Dumb fucks. Fix it. \n\n5. See 1.",
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"content": "> This is false. \n\n[It's actually not] (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4775689-dnc-chair-nate-silver-ohio-ballot-deadline/).",
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"content": "> In his response, Harrison said that under the Ohio Constitution, the law DeWine signed doesn’t take effect until 90 days, which would be Sept. 1.\n\nThen how does Biden get on the ballot? This bill was expressly for that purpose, no? Here, [this article](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3091223/ohio-dewine-scape-goat-dnc-roll-call-vote/) has some comments from after that one.",
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"content": "He doesn't unless he's nominated early. That's why the Ohio law is a trap, designed by Republicans who want to kill you. It's a trap to send it to the conservative SCOTUS to have another 2000.",
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"content": "Inshallah",
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"content": "Not even the most die hard trump supporter can resist this argument. Like moth to Scheiße",
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"content": "There's gotta be a non-zero amount of Trump voters who care about owning Hillary more than Trump actually winning, and could conceivably be convinced to vote Kamala purely on the basis that it would be more devastating to Hillary than a 2nd Trump term.",
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"content": "Yes those people and also normies who despise Hillary and wouldn't normally vote. Or people who voted Trump in 2016 solely for the entertainment value of it.",
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"content": "Yep… worry about the nuclear fallout later says the idiot. ",
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"content": "Very cool, I'm sure the idiots who circlejerk to the idea of Trump being some kind of peacenik while Biden/Harris are genocidal warmongers will have a sane a response to this.",
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"content": "Some idiot I went to high school with has been sharing posts on Facebook on how Harris would start WW3 while Trump “is just the idiot, but not evil” while ignoring shit like this from Trump, she also claims to really care about reproductive rights and how divided the country is 😂 \n\nGeez I wonder who’s to blame for that division.",
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"content": "Oh boy that's another type of person I can't stand, the \"both sides are equally bad but boo-hoo look at how divided the country is why can't we all just come together and join hands\" drone. Trump's whole thing is antagonism, grievance, and \"you either support me or you're the enemy\" type shit. If you look at the tenor of both campaigns and can't tell the difference then something is wrong with you.\n\nThe part in quotations is such a smooth brained take. I mean yeah let's just take it for granted that Trump is merely an idiot and not evil (he's definitely evil for the record). If he's a moron, but he's surrounded and being advised by evil people, then what is the outcome? Does an idiot being advised by evil people go in one end and somehow not-evil stuff comes out the other? That's nonsense.",
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"content": "She’s not even saying Trump is evil but that Kamala is lol, so she’s not even making it a both sides issue, she thinks he is just an idiot and therefore preferable and also said she would’ve voted for RFK.. \n\nShe is just like a few other classmates I had, they weren’t like this before 2020 but something about the post 2020 world broke their minds, nonstop Covid conspiracies sharing on social media and this idea that the government was controlling them and all that nonsense for simple masks mandates inside businesses… I know many people who got their minds broken by that, obviously social media conspiracy theories didn’t help but I have a very low opinion of people my age (mid 20s at the time) who fall for bullshit on the internet, it’s one thing for old people but young people should know better.\n\nTo give you a little bit of backstory on this particular woman, she was far more left leaning 4 years ago, she attended a BLM march after the George Floyd murder and has attended several LGBTQ events and even a few months ago was still sharing mostly left leaning posts on Facebook, lately it’s been all clear anti Harris stuff and “They both suck but obviously Trump isn’t as bad, he is actually good” bullshit which is very transparent.\n\nI don’t know how this happens to people but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me.",
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"content": "Well shit that's even worse. The way I read it I figured she was making a \"both sides\" argument which, even if it's completely sincere, structurally favors Trump because of the way the electorate is set up. \n\nI'm an elder millennial and it's been disheartening to see people in my cohort and younger get sucked into that vortex. Yeah COVID sucked, the lockdowns ruined a lot of people's lives, and it was a scary and traumatic time. but the fuckos on the right don't have answers or better alternatives and they never did. \n\nIt seems like a lot of people have forgotten who was in charge until late January 2021. Trump had disassembled the pandemic response apparatus including pulling assets out of China basically out of spite, downplayed and denied until it was obvious there was a serious problem, and then basically just went \"fuck it we're going to have a vaccine soon anyway\". That's not even considering the political maneuvering to deny aid and supplies to Democratic-voting areas because they figured it would be politically advantageous for them. That was fucking criminal and it's been completely swept under the rug.",
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"content": "This is actually insane. I actually don’t know what the goal is here other than hurt the dems. \n",
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"content": "The narrative right now is ‘biden is old and dems think he should step down’ and so they must make everyone fall in line with that for the clicks and views. \n\nAlso i heard from others wanting stuff on Trumps lies and they were told ‘Trump lying is not news’\n\nSo yeah thats what’s going on in mainstream media right now.",
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"content": "Yeah like ‘Biden old’ should also not be news. Sure I was shocked that he was that old sounding, but what he did manage to say was generally reasonable. \n\nTrump said incoherent and what I understood among his lies was extremely dangerous proposals. \n\nPretty sure everyone knew trump was an insane liar and Biden was ancient before and after that debate lol",
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"content": "It’s less “Biden Old” and more “HOLY SHIT THE PRESIDENT HAS GONE SENILE”",
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"content": "I don’t think he’s senile. The actual words he said were (mostly) fair and reasonable. If given enough time to concoct an answer I’m sure he’d come to a well thought out response or decision. \n\nThe more time you give trump the more likely it is to be batshit insane. \n\nHe is absolutely too old and I wish he would’ve announced he wasn’t running again right after midterms btw. He’s too old to effectively communicate on the spot and has a really good chance of dying before the next term ends. \n\nBut I knew he was too old a month ago… and that same 70-80% of Americans that say that now also said that before the debate",
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"content": "The issue is that this isn’y the first time Biden has had what I will refer to with the neutral term “senior citizen moments” \n\nBut I do agree, I think the fact that this isn’t the first time Biden has had moments like this has made the impact of the debate far less than what most people online and pundits were predicting.",
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"content": "I know all the talk right now is focused on Biden's mental faculties, but let's not forget that on the other side there's a 78-year-old fat guy.\n\nWhat happens if he croaks? What does the GOP do? What do the Dems do? Does this encourage the Dems to drop Buden since both sides would then have a new candidate?\n",
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"content": "The republicans lose badly. While the dems have viable Biden replacements the runner ups to trumps primary were all terrible. He doesn’t even have a hand picked Vp to replace him.",
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"content": "I disagree. A younger Republican candidate like Nikki Haley could do a lot of damage against Biden. Literally all Biden has going for him is that he’s not Trump.",
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"content": "None of them have the support of the core base. Especially not Nicki Haley.",
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"content": "Not in a primary, but they’ll show up for the general. Last polls in January - March actually show Haley with a sizable national lead over Biden.\n\nhttps://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/haley-vs-biden\n\nThat’s more than Trump is beating Biden by.",
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"content": "Yeah but she’s not going to be picked by the party. She wasn’t even invited to the convention",
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"content": "81 million in small dollar donors, and 120 million pledged from a dem donor that was withholding it until Biden left ",
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"content": "I bet he’s not losing any sleep about the decision. He knows he gets to retire on his own terms and gets to head back to Delaware to spend his last days with Jill and do whatever he wants.\n\nI feel like whatever legacy he has, this can only help it, and he’s probably perfectly fine with not having to make the decisions anymore.",
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"content": "Especially if Kamala does hopefully win against Trump! He will feel incredibly happy that his passing of the torch helped genuinely improve the lives of people in the U.S and saved the country from Trump's fascism.",
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"content": "Well said, hundred percent 💯",
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"content": "I have NEVER in my entire life seen the Democratic Party as united and lockstep as today. Harris fundraising numbers are astronomical.\n\nTrumps campaign fucked up with Vance and anti-old angle. \n\nWith abortion as an issue, Harris might not be as encumbered electorally by being a woman, and tbh she’s been killing it in speeches. \n\nRepublicans malding. Thank you Joe. We can do this. ",
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"content": "Vaush and other left pundits have been saying versions of my theory for a while: \n\nThe vast majority of Americans are sick of Donald Trump's annoying shit and want to not have to think about politics again (and, of course, there's the 30ish percent of weirdos like us who make it a point to vote).. Kamala, as a functional adult, represents the ability to make politics boring and not annoying anymore. That alone is a monstrous boon; add the post-Dobbs anger, Trump's deteriorating brain and ever-inscrutable web of conspiracies, his Peter Thiel-sponsored Homunclous VP, Kamala's demographic edges and relatively difficult-to-smear history and there's a really good chance we snatched victory from defeat on Sunday. \n\nI feel excited about electoral politics for the first time since...2012, maybe? I've forgotten what hope feels like. I think a lot of you guys might have too.",
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"content": "I agree with what you're saying, but what about the other left pundits and communities who now think AOC and Bernie are traitors and sellouts to the DNC elite, and because Gaza is the only issue they seem to care about, they won't vote for anyone who has been in or around the Biden administration.",
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"content": "This is part of the reason they continue to be irrelevant. They are, at their core, funded by ragebait. They act like they don’t understand why people don’t just immediately adopt their positions and do exactly what they want because moral high ground pays the bills.",
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"content": "Chungus",
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"content": "What is the context for this picture? It looks so funny",
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"content": "Some dude at the RNC brought his dog for no reason and I'm not sure context helps really lol",
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"content": "Of course it's the RNC. That is all the context I need",
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"content": "They asked 10,000+ people nationally, before and after the debate.\n\n>What the report finds is that Biden held on to 94% of the people who said they would support him before the debate. For Trump, 86% of people who said they would support him before the debate said they would do so after the debate. \n\n>“What we see is that there is some churn –– maybe 10 percent or so of people change what they answer –– but that the net result is not a movement away from Biden,” Lazer says. “If anything, it seems that Biden is holding on to his people somewhat better than Trump.”\n\n>There were very minor shifts between the candidates: 1% of people who said they would vote for Biden before the debate, switched to preferring Trump, while 3% switched from Trump to Biden. Similarly, respondents who said they were unsure who they would vote for before the debate were slightly more likely to switch to preferring Biden after the debate.",
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"content": "Go ahead and keep ignoring independents",
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"content": "Are they siding more with Trump?",
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"content": "No the fear is that they will side with 3rd parties, or not be bothered to vote at all",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris to win 2024 presidential election",
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"content": "I still can't fully grasp how bad this is. His economic policies are objectively destructive and worse or all, he's putting people like Elon in charge of our country.\n\nThis would only go two ways, either the Cristo-Bros win and begin their project 2025, or they mellow out like other fascists and become a stagnant establishment.\n\nBut I don't have much hope, everything is looking good for them and it seems the country will tolerate the ethnic cleansing.",
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"content": "My only hope now is that an accerlationism moment happens and the economy crashes horribly, and also voters are smart enough to respond to that and vote republicans out",
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"content": "Bold of you to assume we'll ever get another election",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "And unsurprising it's Ryan McBeth putting the word out.",
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"content": "Dude hates misinformation",
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"content": "I know the guy does good work sometimes, but him dismissing that the IDF has a habit of shooting people in Gaza just because they’re bored is kinda disgusting to me. Plus there is evidence for this from Israeli sources. But I guess he can pull a good one sometimes.",
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"content": "I am not at the same point as you are with the conflict there. I have many feelings about it but that is a topic i am very conflicted about",
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"content": "Curious where we stand, I haven't been too online nor do I trust any polls (some polls gave Biden a BUMP a day after the debate??^(wtf)) - but curious what do y'all think? Do we think he'll drop out within a week, by the convention in mid-August, after, not at all? etc.\n\nAnd any input regarding this yall think of (who we think is the best replacement, but might END up being the replacement etc.) - I try not to be a doomer but I think this is the most doomy I've felt about politics in a while\n\n",
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"content": "Probably won't drop out since the polling didn't show a dramatic drop for him.",
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"content": "What? The leaked internal polling showed him losing blue states and cook political report showed several states flipping towards trump",
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"content": "Something tells me that actual strategists looked at “red wave new york” and laughed, acknowledging there’s a methodological error, and someone unfamiliar leaked it to foment more panic.",
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"content": "The Young Turks are upset that the replacement candidate is not as progressive as they want, and are lashing out against the Democrat party.\n\nI would go as far (cringe possibly) to say that they genuinely do not care if Trump wins because if Trump wins they can make content about how bad everything is.",
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"content": "I dont really who they want to replace kamala with, as all the other potential candidates are distinctively less progressive",
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"content": "I dont think they have a person they want to replace her with at all frankly. They want to just sow division and get leftist to not vote for her",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I don’t want to get my hopes up but I just want the current will he drop discussions to end",
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"content": "god I hate the online left. Biden is the most effective lefty president of the last 50 years. He stopped our wars, got inflation and the economy back on track, made a big turn towards better climate change policy and united the west militarily. But we cannot unite behind him, because he isn't a good speaker.\n\nIt reminds me of Al Gore. Saving the world? No, let's vote for the corrupt warlord drunkard whose tax slashes for the rich we're still paying back. Because he is a better speaker.\n\nMeanwhile, the right unites behind Trump.\n\nYou guys suck ass and you're the reason we can't have good governance.",
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"content": "I don't understand your grievance. Do you think that Vaushites won't unite behind Biden if it comes to that? Do you think that the left have been the only voices advocating for replacing Biden lately and that liberal media has been consistently pro running Biden?",
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"content": "I think the message is ultimately harmful. What good is your vote for Biden if you've convinced two fence-sitters that they should give RFK Jr. a try?\n\nWe can all acknowledge Biden's faults without talking about him like he'd be just as bad as Trump. A fucking rock would be a better president than Trump quite frankly. And if we were literally talking about an electoral race between Donald Trump and a rock, it would be equally bad optics to trash both of them if you wanted the rock to win.\n\nAgain, the message here should be \"lesser evil.\" Plenty of lefties are trashing Biden for his stance on Israel, and while I can agree with the sentiment, I will never think Trump would be better suited for \\*his\\* stance on Israel or anything else for that matter. I didn't think so in 2016, because I didn't know Donald Trump, but now I believe it fully: this election is going to single-handedly determine the future of America and I'm not about to fuck it up by telling everyone how bad Biden is.\n\nPeople need to leave fairyland and come back to the hard reality of it. These are our options. Pick the \\*lesser\\* of two evils for fuck's sake.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Westerners trying really hard not to call Russians subhuman",
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"content": "A lot of Russian soldiers don't want to be there.\n\nPrisoners (perhaps political opponents, protesters, or random criminals) who were forced to be there.\n\nMinorities in different oblast/regions which doesn't influence the main opinion on the russian government.\n\nSome of them even were lured by Ukrainian drones to desert the Russians and come to the Ukrainian side to be free, but treason is deadly, they can be executed for that.\n\nA meatgrinder of poorer people for rich officers/ oligarchs.",
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"content": "The majority of them at this point are volunteers who signed up due to promises of very large signing bonuses and salaries.",
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"content": "Despair of the poor",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Seems a bit extreme to just cancel the whole tour",
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"content": "Apologizing isn’t metal",
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"content": "Tenacious D isn't metal. It's pop comedy. I know that will probably piss people off, but it's the truth.",
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"content": "It’s definitely not pop. It’s comedy metal, but not pop.",
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"content": "it's pop in the same way everything from the beatles to nirvana to rage against the machine is pop. maybe \"pop\" isn't the first thing you'd call it, and if you wanted to be specific you absolutely might say comedy metal or comedy folk metal or some other combination of funny words, but to claim that it's \"definitely not pop\" is very silly IMO.\n\nsystem of a down for example is progressive thrash nu metal and every other hyper specific thing you want to call it, but it is all of those things while simultaneously borrowing many features from pop music, especially structurally. toxicity for example has hooky cuts all over it, you can't tell me chop suey isn't at least partially a pop song.\n\nit's really not a lot of music made since the advent of recorded music that doesn't have elements of pop written in its DNA, at least to some degree. even if you wanna pick something stereotypically experimental and left field, you can't tell me The Money Store by Death Grips is completely void of pop influence. \n\nthis is perhaps more of a semantic disagreement though, so your mileage may vary. genres are, after all, social constructs, man-made categories with no set boundaries that constantly evolve and shift over time.\n\nedit: cleaned up some phrasing to make it easier to read",
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"content": "I like the D. But it shares more with pop than metal. And that's fine! It's made to be accessible, which works well for its comedy mission. That's why I think of it more as pop art with an ironic facade of metal on top of it, imo. But here I am, risking more exposure of the downvote button.",
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"content": "Seems a bit extreme to just cancel the whole tour",
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"content": "Jfc, why apologize to these turds, they don’t care about some joke",
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"content": "Right Wingers: Says the most unhinged violent shit\n\nKyle: *serves back 1% of their vitrol*\n\nRW: Omg these leftists are violent. \n\nThere’s a double standard in how violence and hatred is treated by the media.",
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"content": "It's wild when Paul Pelosi was attacked they laughed and joked about it openly. If it was biden who was almost shot, Conservatives would be doing the same thing to bigger crowds and getting full standing ovations for it.",
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"content": "This is like the least bad thing he has ever said.",
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"content": "The guy wasn't out at the time, it was pretty fucked up actually",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "I think they [Pelosi et al.] don't care. I think they're going to go the Mondale/ Dukakis route, accept the loud voices and polling saying Biden can't win, know that anyone they put in his place will probably lose as well, and they're already writing 2024 off as a loss and looking to 2028. They're going to trot out their 2028 darlings at the convention, nominate a sacrificial lamb, and spend the next 4 years of Trump's presidency building their rebellious cred. They play the long game.",
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"content": "This. The Dems have no interest in winning. They're much more interested in gaining traction for next time. \n\nThe problem is, with Trump, there may not be a next time.",
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"content": "Yeah it's a shit situation all around, IMO. And while it's definitely not the first time, I fear you're right that it might be the last.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "So much divide rhetoric coming from both sides ",
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"content": "Conservatives never cared about this, but they will posture like crazy about it now. Trump surviving the attempt probably won't win him the election, but dnc and liberals will capitulate every single aggressive anti trump talking point they have, and *that* might win trump the election \n\nAny trump project 2025 talk will be fridged\n\nAny \"felony trump \" talk will be iced \n\nNo more rapist trump, or pedo Trump talk either \n\nAnd the right will continue just as they always have. Because they simply don't care, they will live to incite violence another day",
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"content": "Yeap.\n\nThey get to give it a couple of days, then they have to turn it all back on.",
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"content": "I'd wager good money they won't. Dnc liberals are fucking terrified of confrontation, any \"trump is going to destroy out democracy\" talk ls *done* they will treat him with kid gloves",
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"content": "They already are on r/VaushV",
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"content": "They'll try to run Clyburn in 2028. Anyone who dares to point out that he's older than Yoda will be met with screams of \"RACISM\".",
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"content": "If this is true and she gets rid of Lina khan we know what type of president Harris will be ",
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"content": "The baller move would be to fire Lina Khan and replace her with an even more hawkish trustbuster",
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"content": "lol replaces her with Karl Marx’s ghost",
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"content": "***Me becoming a lich to use the power of necromancy to resurrect Theodore Roosevelt and William Taft***\n\n \nSoon, our enemies shall tremble before the power of the Bull Moose.",
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"content": "Joe Biden will be dead soon. probably(hopefully before the convention unlikely as we are in hell).\nJill and Hunter were significant in his decision to stay on. If that proves disastrous they need to be reviled for pushing Biden to keep going instead gracefully stepping aside to allow a proper primary going into 2024.\n",
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"content": "We won't need to.\n\nTrump will have them both executed.",
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"content": "People really should and that point to trump-Biden. Trump will target biden’s family. ",
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"content": "I think you misunderstood me.\n\nEither Biden steps down, so we don't need to ostracise them; Biden wins, so we don't need to ostracise them; or Biden loses, so they're dead and we can't ostracise them.\n\nThere's no situation where ostracising them would be both possible and useful.",
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"content": "Biden endorsed Kamala ",
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"content": "I’m glad he’s endorsed Kamala only because it’ll be harder for the donors to ratfuck us and vote for someone even more “moderate” and right wing to Biden, and because Kamala has more or less been untainted by the Gaza conflict so it’d good chance to recapture youth voters who are abstaining from voting due to Israel",
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"content": "The few times I've seen her speak regarding Gaza is far better than others. Given that she isn't an open Zionist like Biden and how that has impacted Biden, it's way easier for her to retract aid to Israel and make that a promise.",
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"content": ">it's way easier for her to retract aid to Israel \n\nYou'll be disappointed about that one I'm afraid",
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"content": "Yeah Israel and American politics are very closely entwined, anyone who didn't openly oppose the Gaza genocide now at the very least will continue to fund the iron dome \n\nNow if Momala would continue to give the IDF more leway as they push the envelope more and more remains to be seen",
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"content": "I wouldn't hold my breath. Harris is the same old ghoul in different package. She's not a progressive or a firebrand - she's a career politician.",
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"content": "Seems a bit extreme to just cancel the whole tour",
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"content": "Jfc, why apologize to these turds, they don’t care about some joke",
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"content": "It probably has to do with the manner in which they were asked to leave Australia. It could be a thing that makes the difference between get out for now vs. a permanent ban.",
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"content": "Oh was it an Australian tour and the government asked that they leave after the comment? That makes more sense",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Pathetic",
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"content": "We should be encouraged by the fact that Tim Walz is part of the agenda and that’s a serious gift to the left. We also should not be delusional and think that Kamala is some break from the “reach across the aisle” centrist nonsense that Biden has represented forever when she was literally a part of his ticket. The benefits vs Biden on policy are going to be marginal from her",
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"content": "Do you understand most of the electorate, including most or all independents, are tired of partisanship? It's a national tv interview, and you apparently wanted partisan, leftist answers. Bad strategy.",
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"content": "I’m not gonna apologize for wanting politicians to say correct things and only work with people who actually want good outcomes",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-documents-case-dismissed-by-federal-judge/",
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"content": "But... he wasn't President any more when he had those documents.",
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"content": "No, you don't understand. He has always been the President. We have always been at war with Eurasia.\n\n\n These things have always been true and will be true forever.",
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"content": "Literally 1984.",
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"content": "I wonder what George Orwell would have to say these days",
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"content": "\"I told you so.\"",
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"content": "Honestly, I am really happy that she is doing this. They are incredibly important to win over and help boost her chances against Trump even higher. This is an actual good move and I am glad Tim Walz has done it as well. \n",
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"content": "More of this is precisely what we need most. Their support is vital and their voices need to be heard. This alone is absolutely a welcome break from Biden.",
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"content": "Yes and are we going to finally admit that Harris may not have no or little say in how the Biden administration handles the I/P conflict. People fought that the VP doesn’t hold much power and not as much duties as the president. ",
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"content": "Biden essentially acted as Netanyahu's point man in the Obama Administration. As VP Biden stabbed his own boss in the back by going behind Obama's back and having an unsanctioned phone call to tell Netanyahu that Obama is full of shit and that Bibi will always have a friend in him. He mid-key disobeyed Obama, who was his own boss, and even fumed when Obama made public statements criticizing Israel. Biden STILL holds a bit of a grudge towards Obama for not being 100% loyal to Israel and Netanyahu.\n\n\nNo way in hell could Harris influence Biden on this issue. It's like trying to convince a Young Earth Creationist or a Flat Earther that they're wrong. He was willing to risk his own job by backstabbing the President over this foreign country as VP. Why would he listen to his VP when he as VP didn't listen to his own boss?",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "They are doing it, those beautiful idiots. This shit right here is a big reason why Harris is the most viable candidate. ",
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"content": "This is disgusting but I do think it should be someone like Whitmer or newsome…I just can stand CopMala’s lack of rizz",
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"content": "Pete has rizz? lol",
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"content": "Much more than Ms. Coconut Tree, yes 🌴",
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"content": "The coconut tree is used in support of Harris. What viral memes as Pete created? None.",
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"content": "No….no, it’s…not",
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"content": "Yes....yes, it...is\n\nYou are making great arguments for how Pete Buttigieg is great /s Have fun. No point in talking to you, you are barely able to string together a full sentence.",
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"content": "Look, I even took his name out my comment because that seems to be the only thing you libs single out of my argument because you know you can’t argue the fact that there’s at least a handful of better candidates than her…",
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"content": "Teflon Don will be his rap name",
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"content": "\"Dirty D\" Don\n\nD as in diaper.",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "This whole thing has been a Revolt of the Centrists. Led by people who wouldn’t *really* struggle under Trump. I never trusted this shit",
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"content": "Yes, because as we all know, nobody is more progressive than Joe \"The enlightened centrist\" Biden. Give me a fucking break.",
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"content": "Biden the man is a centrist, but Biden the president enacted some of the most progressive policies of any president in my lifetime",
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"content": "If Trump wins, it's the fault of everyone who didn't vote for Joe.\n\nThat's how it works.\n\nReal leftists will vote for Joe because we oppose fascism. \"Leftists\" who don't vote for Biden, will share the blame.",
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"content": "This take is fucking *enlightened*",
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"content": "Wife of dead rally-goer says she hasn’t heard from Trump",
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"content": "[Widow of ex-chief killed in Trump rally shooting reveals his final words – and passed on phone call with Biden](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/corey-comperatore-trump-rally-widow-speaks-b2580299.html)\n\nFrom the article - She also revealed that she had turned down the offer of a condolatory phone call from Joe Biden, saying: \"I didn’t want to talk to him. My husband was a devout Republican and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.\"",
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"content": "Thoughts and prayers. Womp womp.",
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"content": "I'm sure she's doing fine, given all the bountiful thoughts and prayers she's getting these days.",
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"content": "Better option; Mick Foley.\n\nThe guys a worker who rose grinding through the WWF/WWE to become the champ and put his ass on the line getting injured for his craft.\n\nAlso, last i checked he was liberal.",
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"content": "Hell, he actually*lost* an ear. Not had one grazed.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "The cope has already begun ",
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"content": "This looks ai generated",
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"content": "Ai slop and conservatism is an iconic duo at this point",
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"content": "Name something more iconic than fascists and their first love: ai art",
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"content": "Curious where we stand, I haven't been too online nor do I trust any polls (some polls gave Biden a BUMP a day after the debate??^(wtf)) - but curious what do y'all think? Do we think he'll drop out within a week, by the convention in mid-August, after, not at all? etc.\n\nAnd any input regarding this yall think of (who we think is the best replacement, but might END up being the replacement etc.) - I try not to be a doomer but I think this is the most doomy I've felt about politics in a while\n\n",
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"content": "Probably won't drop out since the polling didn't show a dramatic drop for him.",
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"content": "What? The leaked internal polling showed him losing blue states and cook political report showed several states flipping towards trump",
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"content": "The newest polling puts Trump and Biden in essentially the same spot as before the debate.",
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"content": "Electoral College Polling predictions",
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"content": "The Doom/Bloom cycle continues",
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"content": "Everyone wants to doom or bloom while I'm here just wanting to coom",
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"content": "Find a vacant room and open up incognito on your phone browser no one can stop you",
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"content": "She's right and I m sick of Biden apologists.",
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"content": "Be mad, but it would still be worse to switch:\n\n1. How can a candidate simply appointed by party leadership champion \"supporting democracy\"\n2. Dem leadership is NOT gonna give you an awesome progressive unifier\n3. Nobody has Biden's name recognition (even Newsom), among purple state ultra-normies\n4. Trump could simply refuse to debate whoever comes next, without political consequence\n\nSo tell me a way out, that wins the election.\n\nAnd keep it realistic.\n\nNo fantasizing about a candidate that's popular online but not deeply connected with the top doners.",
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"content": "This is hilarious.",
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"content": "I thought better of him. A man of science should not be picking an anti-vaccer to head the department of health. It's easy to forget how much this cult has impacted every day Americans.",
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"content": "Tbf, early astronauts were selected from test pilots in the Air Force; interest in science wasn’t necessarily a criteria.",
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"content": "The first spacecraft had very similar interior layouts to fighter jets for this reason. They were picked primarily for their flying skills and ability to adapt in harsh environments.",
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"content": "Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/13/2024-election-campaign-updates-biden-trump-rally/#link-E6S6KETYXZGRBPKBRXNMAL3RAU\n\nYes I know Vaush is talking about it on stream. I want to open up third chat.",
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"content": "The shirt the shooter was wearing was also merch for a gun YouTube channel: Demolition Ranch",
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"content": "The other tidbit floating around is a $15 ActBlue donation from a \"Thomas Crooks\" in the same town.\n\n\nBut that donation doesn't include a dob or even a middle name so it could be from a different Thomas Crooks.",
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"content": "Sure, another interesting thing is that he apparently registered as a republican months after this donation took place. And that the donation took place on biden’s inauguration. \n\n[https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1812365265935499637](https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1812365265935499637)",
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"content": "I've noticed among my friends who fit such a category and some Leftist streamers, a profound lack of fear for the potential of a Trump presidency. I even saw Xanderhal state that he'd consider Trump over Newsom - \"Here's the thing though Trump would take your rights away, Newsom would take my rights away\" \n \nIt felt surprising to me the lack of concern for the danger Trump poses and is making me question whether the fear i've seen online is just from all other demographics and that maybe Leftist white male Allies are just simply not personally worried about it.",
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"content": "As a forty year-old, pansexual, cis-het presenting male, y’all gotta stop with this. Quit with identity baiting. This is the most toxic shit I’ve seen. If Xanderhal says something stupid, call him out and call out his dumb statement. Don’t attach it to whatever you assume or perceive their identity is. Most normal people ARE concerned with this shit. \n\nBut even if they weren’t, literally everyone’s life will get worse with another Trump term. When you isolate demographics and present questions this way, it comes off as if a cis white male leftist and you aren’t even in the same frame of reference. Or as if the “cis white male leftists” don’t have the same stakes. Individuals who identify with things can still be wrong, stupid, or bad faith.\n\nMy slant on leftist politics always skews towards class analysis, simply because a lot of identity shot is solvable that way. And to be clear, this does not mean O don’t support civil rights agendas and such, but that isn’t the way this is framed.\n\nXanderhal in particular I’ve seen advocate for LBGTQ issues regularly, so I find using him as a proxy for this based off of one (giving the benefit of the doubt because I don’t watch his content often) dumb remark is kind of odious. He is a twenty year old. Young people say and do dumb shit all the time The left is so willing to through out the baby with the bath water.",
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"content": "Sorry, yes, if you're a 20 year old saying something dumb in a Discord or at a convo at a party, OK.\n\nBut Xanderhal is putting himself and his beliefs out there, and if he's acting like a moron, I don't care if he's 20, 30, 50, or whatever.",
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"content": "That’s not at all the point of what I said. I said hold him accountable for the incident, don’t extrapolate it into “cis-white leftist men” or Xan doesn’t care about LGBTQ issues. Not every “cis-white leftist man” agrees with that take. It is unnuanced rage bait.",
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"content": "I've noticed among my friends who fit such a category and some Leftist streamers, a profound lack of fear for the potential of a Trump presidency. I even saw Xanderhal state that he'd consider Trump over Newsom - \"Here's the thing though Trump would take your rights away, Newsom would take my rights away\" \n \nIt felt surprising to me the lack of concern for the danger Trump poses and is making me question whether the fear i've seen online is just from all other demographics and that maybe Leftist white male Allies are just simply not personally worried about it.",
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"content": "I'm not American and I don't know who newsom is. I googled him and had a quick glance but what makes him anti leftist straight white cis males? No snarky responses please just tell me what he's actually being accused of I'm not watching a fucking xanderhal video",
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"content": "Newsom isn't in my view, he's just a Lib who is apparently somewhat anti Gun. I just think the some Straight white Cis males don't fear Trump because they're under the false assumption that under a Trump presidency their rights wouldn't be affected or something",
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"content": "then why tf would xanderhal say that then, isn't he a leftie or something as well",
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"content": "i don't know. I think he might just highly value gun rights above everything else. Might be one of those people who think gun rights are all that matters because they ensure you can keep your other rights? I'm just guessing though.",
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"content": "I watched the vid you linked in another comment thread and yeah he does actually seem to be that fucking dumb, either in his genuine beliefs or in his attempt at hyperboly. Fair enough my bad. I still don't think this has anything to do with race, sexuality or gender though, he's just a larping revolutionary.",
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"content": "I don't know how to describe this",
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"content": "It's a shame bad faith actors have clipped out what she said right before that to those demonstrators where she was much more sympathetic and agreeable \n\nEven worse when apparently she met with the committee in Michigan and talked to them and listened to their demands. These protesters apparently weren't even associated with them",
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"content": "Very well said, yes. Also, she is still pretty new with how to handle crowds on a presidential nominee level so I can expect a few bumps along the way. I do think that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz will be better than Biden and will definitely beat Donald Trump. This was a bit rough but I think it will most likely be up from here.",
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"content": "They definitely will be. I think this was a massive blunder, and she should have expected this, and been briefed about this possibility, and trained for it. All I can hope is she will be better next time it happens \n\nI seriously doubt this will have any effect on the election though. If anyone was seriously swayed from voting for her for this they would have found something else objectionable before the election anyways, when she lays out her policy. Might as well get those off the train now anyways, while the election is still far away",
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"content": "I have no idea what Candace's tweet even means. Who is killing Christians in Russia?",
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"content": "No one, and I am Orthodox Christian myself.\n\nAlso we do not say \"Christ is king\".",
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"content": "What is happening? ",
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"content": "https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/bidens-family-starts-discussing-exit-plan-2024-race-rcna162658\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/19/election-2024-biden-trump-campaign-updates/\n\nreal sources\n\n\nalso the whole \"he's getting his exit statement written by Meacham\" is apparently Newsmax garbage, saw that circulating around on Twitter and here\n\nhttps://www.rawstory.com/biden-speechwriter-debunks-newsmax-exit-report/",
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"content": "So Nothing Ever Happens?",
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"content": "It's still fairly likely he drops out, but the people closest to him wouldn't say it until he says it, however if the weekend statement isn't addressing it then I feel like he stays in",
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"content": "He's told the public at his rallies he's staying in a few times already? I don't understand all this stupid yapping about it. Like if he says he's staying in. I feel a lot is manufactured consent (consensus?) by the media and donors forcing congressmen and senators in swing seats to bow to rich donors' pressure to get extra calls for him to drop out. I have no idea what it's going to be, but there's a shitton of noise out there, trying to sow distrust and chaos. I'm just gonna listen to to Biden campaign, expecting him to be the nominee",
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"content": "The majority of democrats now don’t think he should be nominee. Framing them as the “elites” is insulting and more importantly dumb for Biden’s campaign.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Early mail-in ballots show Democrats leading by a very significant margin especially in swing states. Do you think this is a good sign?",
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"content": "This is generally to be expected. It is more common for Democrats to vote by mail or other early voting methods\n\nI would be interested to see it in comparison to other years. Can you provide a link to the data you’re referencing I can’t find a reliable total on my search?",
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"content": "I'd recommend looking at these. The elect project has 2020 VBM statistics and information, the NBC link has information about this year.\n\n[https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html](https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html)\n\n[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote)",
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"content": "That beefy Pennsylvania vote lead is looking nice. +46 is incredible.",
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"content": "Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/13/2024-election-campaign-updates-biden-trump-rally/#link-E6S6KETYXZGRBPKBRXNMAL3RAU\n\nYes I know Vaush is talking about it on stream. I want to open up third chat.",
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"content": "This is just the worst, worst timeline we're all in, truly, someone bring that picture of Vaush back from the first few minutes of the Biden-Trump 2024 debate here.",
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"content": "Not *the* worst tbf\n\nThe worst would be if Trump kicked the bucket. If that happened an orgy of violence for months would be all but inevitable",
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"content": "We could also be invaded by aliens and all get abducted and tortured and artificially kept alive while being tortured for the next 12 centuries",
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"content": "Donny donated $6,000 USD to kamala in 2011 as attorney general. \n\nSource: \n\n\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-harris-campaign-donations/2020/08/12/06eb1f0e-dcdb-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html",
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"content": "Could this be a good jab in an upcoming debate?",
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"content": "Is kamala gonna debate him in September in place of Biden?",
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"content": "Whoever the Democratic nominee is will, unless some even more crazy shit happens. So probably Kamala, yeah.",
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"content": "Handy guide for today",
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"content": "Might wanna run by the people of Palestine whether Joe doesn't fit the Hitler category",
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"content": "I think they're more concerned with Bibi's Hitler-ness, honestly.",
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"content": "Probably, but if you're the one supplying Hitler the zyklon B then you're as much a Hitler as him",
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"content": "I'm a leftie from Vietnam, glorious land of \"communism\", who has to unfortunately share the same land with Luna Oi, this damn election has been causing headache for most progressives ik.\n\nY'know for all the shit i give to the gov, we have quite free access to info, and that ofc info from the election in America and international stuff in general, and this stuff has me worry.\n\nYou Americans have politics that reverbarate globally, much to my chagrin, and the US culture war has worked it's way here, ofc, you won't hear it mentioned on the news or anything like that, but the people here are very nationalistic, hates China, Trump's anti-China rhetorics has caused the people here to become pro-Trump while adopting his more fascistic position by proxy, you won't see it in the old, but the (male) youth i've seen has been repeating \"edgy\" stuff, make casual racist jokes, it's not hard to find some young guys, specially the ones who know English to talk about \"reverse racism\" or something about Hollywood pandering to *slur*, i know they aren't doing anything exceptionally fucked up, but Vietnam has strong nationalistoc sentiments alongside a socially conservative society with a government reinforcing nationalism while taking hands-off approach on other stuff, i fear a Trump presidency may escalate the worrying trend of right-wing talking point here from something casual to something more intense.\n\nThat is not to mention policies, ik Biden isn't committing to a Green New Deal, but if Donald \"climate change is a hoax\" Trump get elected, i fear for my country, the heatwaves in Hanoi and Saigon is already fucking insane enough as is, but the central regions of Vietnam is really really susceptible to floods, and floods have already happened there so many times, it's become normalize to have a donation run every now and then to the flooded central provinces, the people there are suffering, i know my gov is also to blame but these people suffered enough already, i don't want them to suffer more climate catastrophes, they deserve to live a good life as much as anybody.\n\nAlso the Dems and there foreign policy are dogshit, they helped my people tremendously, Clinton ended the sanctions, Obama and Biden were both big help, Trump has done no good except for giving nationalists here red meat.\n\nI am aware that there's a 70% chance i'm talking to the void here, but if any of you guys read this, please, PLEASE cast your ballot for the Democratic nominee, i am aware of how fucking frustrating the Dems are, of how they ratfucked us, but your decision won't just affect you, it'll affect me and my community as well, i have LGBT friends and i want them to have the most inclusive society possible, they already suffer so much as it, and i also want the poor people of the rural central provinces to suffer as little as possible, lord knows they've gone through enough.\n\nI know it feels like shit right now, working against a system that constantly fuck you over, but you guys have the privelage to have a say, no matter how small, in your gov, i don't, my ballot goes to one and one party only, you guys can help and/or condemn so many people, the difference between a centrist and a Republican could change lives.\n\nSo i guess this is a long way of saying remember to go and fucking vote, extra credit if you volunteer/donate.\n\nPS: Also it's been nice here, seeing lefties who aren't tankies even if we do sometime have some libs.",
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"content": "My wife is from Saigon. I’ve talked to a few people in Vietnam and Vietnamese in the States. I agree that nationalism is a very strong trait among both groups, but I think the Vietnamese Diaspora in the states has got to be worse. They are reactionary anti-communists similar to many Cuban-Americans. I saw a lot of South Vietnam flags during January 6th. They tend to be way more misinformed than your average republican in my experience. What’s worse is it seems a lot of Vietnamese get their info about US politics from these people in the US. \n\nWe had to tell my wife’s mom to not believe anything about US politics that her friends told her. She’s better informed knowing nothing than listening to the news sources available. My question is for a Vietnamese person whose doesn’t speak English are there any “normal” sources in Vietnamese? Seems like close to an impossibility to have normal opinions on US politics if you only spoke Vietnamese.",
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"content": "Oh and yeah, the diaspora is also insanely reactionary, honestly, the two groups are more similar then they'd like to admit, and the \"three stripes\" (old south vn flag) people remain one of the favourite punching bag.",
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"content": "I think Vaush said on stream that diasporas have the largest concentration of Hitler Particles.",
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"content": "The cope has already begun ",
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"content": "This looks ai generated",
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"content": "Ai slop and conservatism is an iconic duo at this point",
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"content": "\"ChatGPT, generate an image of Elon Musk blowing up migrant ships with a laser cannon\"",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Time for everyone to chill about the green party then. ",
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"content": "I swear, the scrounging around for good news in advance of the election is what I imagine it would be like to stand, starving, with spoon in hand among tens of millions of others waiting for the chef to finish defecating in the poorridge they're about to serve us... as we all watch. Half the country is shit. Smile if you must, butt there's no news that makes that any less true or any less horrible, regardless of who wins this.",
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"content": "Whatever",
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"content": "Scrounge on, but I'm right.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "LET US BE UNBURDENED BY WHAT HAS BEEN",
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"content": "He chose the right thing, good job biden! Now we just gotta get Kamala chosen so all that money wont be frozen up for long and we can go back to bash the fash",
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"content": "All they need to do is NOT run Gavin Newsom and we might have a chance of winning",
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"content": "Eh, i think he would have won against trump, but i would prefer almost anyone else",
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"content": "Biden factually would have been at a huge disadvantage. The right has so much dirt and rhetoric against him that they are running laps around the DNC. Not to mention over half of the Democratic voter base doesn’t even want him and was only committing to Biden because they hate Trump. \n\nIf we get a new candidate in now, the right will be struggling to launch attack ads and shape up the rhetoric in this short amount of time. They have had over 4 years to break down Biden’s reputation. Now they only have 4 months to get dirt on a mystery candidate.",
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"content": "It was smart to drop out after the rnc, they wasted all that money and time bashing biden for nothing",
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"content": "So smart that it genuinely wouldn't shock me if later on it comes out that this decision was made long ago and they held on this long precisely to undercut the republicans.",
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"content": "Imagine if they did have a plan after all lol",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "DSA National Committee withdraws endorsement of AOC",
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"content": "Why??",
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"content": "The endorsement was only if she refused to fund the Iron Dome, which she has done.",
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"content": "That's much more reasonable than I expected if true tbh. If you support someone for a specific issue and then they back down on it, it makes sense to withdraw your support.",
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"content": "Single issue politics are a plague.",
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"content": "I agree. I said it was more reasonable than expected for the DSA, meaning I can understand why they would do that in their position, not that I think it's good.",
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"content": "If any org wants to build a winning coalition they must support Israel’s defense (not even offensive stuff). Israel has way too much support to oppose giving them air defense. \n\nThey should have air defense frankly. I would be suspicious of someone who vehemently opposes that. The vinn diagram of people opposed to it is a lot of Nazis and some good meaning people",
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"content": "Lol. Israel is using all their funding to slaughter Palestinians, but sure, they should be given more money and resources for \"defense\".\n\nIsrael not being a genocidal apartheid ethnostate should be a prerequisite to them getting funding for defense. Otherwise you're just giving them money to kill more Palestinians. \n\nCalling everyone who thinks Israel shouldn't get more weapons a Nazi is not the winning strategy you think it is.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I've been fiening for a stream the past week",
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"content": "Vaush was assassinated in Khazakstan by IDF high command while en-route via train to meet with Xi Jinping to discuss Vaushist leninism\n\nIt happened like, 18 hours ago, didn’t you hear?",
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"content": "I thought that was a found to be deepstate body double.",
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"content": "How do you know they’re not lying and the Vaush we will see in the few days will just be the body double who has had their memory erased and undergone extensive induced hypnagogia to have the same personality and mind as the old Vaush?",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Holy shit based!\n\nThis will bring attention to the Supreme Court justices and so Project 2025 and the threat of fascism and so would help us win the election.",
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"content": "This is fine. When Republicans block the impeachment, they are making their entire party responsible for the corruption on the court. This will make it a lot easier to do things like \"expanding the court\" or even \"officially acting against them\" if Biden grows a spine.",
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"content": "Personally, I think that Biden should take action against the Republican party with the maximum amount of force that the constitution allows for, as defined by Supreme Court rulings...",
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"content": "tomahawk missiles",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Hearing AOC on her live got me thinking about the election and what would happen if Biden decided to step down. And It got me thinking that the delegates and super delegates would ultimately decide who's getting the nominee without any pressure from voters\n\nWe can talk about and speculate whoever we want from Harris to Witmer to Newsome to Buttigieg, but at the end of the day no one except for the delegates are going to decide who will be the nominee. And this is the democratic party we could see them nominate Adam Schiff. And then we could absolutely lose.\n\nIDK what to think. On one hand the idea of Biden stepping down sounds great because the more I look at him the more I'm reminded of my grandfather his last months before passing. But on the other hand we could end up with a worst ticket that completely guarantees the Democrats losing. The more I think about it the more I feel like AOC and Bernie might have the right idea in keeping Biden on the top of the ticket.",
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"content": "I watched Vaush reaction to the livestream. At first, I thought he was just going to attack a woman of color like he normally does because that is one of his favorite pastimes (joke). However, he and all the left-wing political commentators (Kyle Kulinski, Hasan, David Doel, Mike Figueredo) are right and AOC, The Squad and Bernie are wrong on this issue.\n\nThe latter have not factored in that people far more influential and politically savvier that them -Obama, Pelosi, Schumer- have thought about all the issues and possibilities beforehand about what could happen if Biden drops out. They know what they are doing and the best you could do for your health and sanity is trust the process.\n\nIdeally Biden should step down and Kamala should be the nominee. However, if it will be a brokered convention, it is likely that they will nominate someone they feel is likely to win over centrists, independents, undecideds and beat Donald Trump which is the main goal right now.",
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"content": "> The latter have not factored in that people far more influential and politically savvier that them -Obama, Pelosi, Schumer- have thought about all the issues and possibilities beforehand about what could happen if Biden drops out. They know what they are doing and the best you could do for your health and sanity is trust the process.\n\nJesus fuck no, I am not trusting these chucklefucks with anything more complex than dismantling a wooden shed. These are the same \"political masterminds\" who got us into this situation by coddling Biden, shutting down any real discussion about his age and ratfucking the primary (as is tradition).\n\nThis is a critical moment so we have to rely on them and pray they don't fuck this up again, but let's not jerk them off please.",
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"content": "Well they aren't coddling Biden anymore. And they are mastermind enough to \"ratfuck\" the primaries. So what makes you think they aren't mastermind enough to get a better candidate to defeat Trump? It's pretty obvious that it will be Kamala. If not then it seems they like Gavin Newsom the most.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I finally caught one!",
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"content": "Wait republicans really have bots to defend their racism",
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"content": "It’s a huge bot network on Twitter right now. Nobody knows if it’s being facilitated by someone in the Republican Party or if it’s a foreign effort but there’s been a massive spike in targeted bot activity since the election discourse started.",
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"content": "Gee didn’t someone say he was going to crackdown on that 🧐",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Never before have I experienced such a moment of hope. ",
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"content": "I can watch Vaush again. I had to completely tune out everything after the debate.",
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"content": "Guy was dooming way too hard",
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"content": "I was dooming harder over here, so that's not something I can possibly blame him for. Immediately after the debate my cbt kicked in and told me not to think about this for a while.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Westerners trying really hard not to call Russians subhuman",
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"content": "“Literally orcs”\n\nLooks inside\n\nSevere malnourishment ",
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"content": "Yeah like it doesn't look far off from photos of ukrainian troops starved in russian captivity, that was my first impression looking at the photos",
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"content": "Just to be clear though, if the post is true and these soldiers were recently captured, it means they were malnourished by the Russian system, not due to Ukrainian captivity.\n\nThis is doubly so considering they have several healed facial injuries. The guy on the left looks like he hasn't seen a dentist in his entire life. It stands to reason they may have been malnourished before they even reached the front.\n\nBut yes, they do look like starved Ukrainians in Russian captivity.",
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"content": "Could be one of those those troops they got out of Russian prisons",
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"content": "That seems likely.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris to win 2024 presidential election",
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"content": "I still can't fully grasp how bad this is. His economic policies are objectively destructive and worse or all, he's putting people like Elon in charge of our country.\n\nThis would only go two ways, either the Cristo-Bros win and begin their project 2025, or they mellow out like other fascists and become a stagnant establishment.\n\nBut I don't have much hope, everything is looking good for them and it seems the country will tolerate the ethnic cleansing.",
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"content": "My only hope now is that an accerlationism moment happens and the economy crashes horribly, and also voters are smart enough to respond to that and vote republicans out",
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"content": "Economically, our only hope is that corporate donors are able to convince Trump that across the board tariffs are insanely bad. \n\nBut that probably won’t stop Project 2025. Nor would it stop “Efficiency Czar” Elon from cutting Social Security or something",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Americans blame Trump for getting himself shot",
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"content": "Victim blaming has always been big.",
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"content": "I can't believe the person who called for violence and said that only the second amendment people would be able to do anything about a future president had violence committed against him by a second amendment person doing something about a future president",
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"content": "political assassination has always been popular, yes. \n\nthis is not about it being unbelivable or weird, this is about victim blaming.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Who knows really? Literally, anything can still happen. There is still a week to go and there are hundreds of different outlets all saying different narratives.\n\n“He’s dropping out! Never mind, he's staying in! He's in it to win it!”\n\nIt is a never-ending game of political ping-pong. The debate around his candidacy is still ongoing and anything can happen. His campaign staff can't just drop him like a sack of potatoes. Biden has to drop out on his own, and then the replacement, most likely Kamala, is sworn in.",
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"content": "Until the next debate until he collapses or has a face freeze",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "She's walking on eggshells, not wanting to leak DMs so to speak, but the general vibe I'm getting is that if Biden drops out, we're not getting Harris, there's no unified plan, and everyone in the party is gonna be pushing for their own interests, culminating in an open convention and it's going to be a shitshow.\n\nNow maybe she really is out of the loop and there is a plan being developed, but if that's the case I can't exactly criticize her for being kept in the dark. I know I have zero faith in the Dem leadership to get shit done, why should I expect this time to be different.\n\nI would love to get a Harris/Buttigieg or Harris/Shapiro ticket come November, but if the Dems don't want Harris on the ticket for whatever reason then honestly I think we would be better off with Biden.",
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"content": "does the VOD get posted anywhere?",
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"content": "[Here](https://youtu.be/mlzNvNFqtBE?si=msui6dBf_WVhXmPe)",
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"content": "Thanks!",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "\n\n",
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"content": "If Selzer is accurate enough to take this outlier seriously then why is Kamala almost certainly going to lose Iowa?",
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"content": "Because it's still tied within the MOE and it's likely to be an outlier...\n\nBUT given how accurate Selzer is, if they're off by a systemic error of a couple of points, plus the maximum margins of error, Trump is still barely winning by +3 points. For reference he won the state in 2020 by +8. That's still devastating for Trump because that means the rest of the rust belt likely isn't as tight as the current polls suggest.",
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"content": "That doesn't sound like Kamala is \"almost certainly\" going to lose Iowa.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Kyle isn’t grifting he’s just wrong lol stop calling people grifters for no reason. We can disagree with people who are on our side without calling them grifters",
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"content": "I understand but it's weird him calling it authoritarian since that's the new conservative talking point. They totally do it in bad faith",
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"content": "I think this community has too much respect for Kyle kulinski just because he sometimes says something right",
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"content": "You can have as little respect for Kyle as you want, that still doesn't make him a grifter. You implying it does is kind of giving the game away",
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"content": "what game lol all I said was I don't think he's that worth listening to",
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"content": "Now they are calling you a grifter for not liking him 😂",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "So what's with all the conspiracy posts I'm seeing saying that Trump wasn't hit with a bullet? Some people say he wasn't hit at all, but we see blood, and his reaction seemed genuine. Others will say it was telepromter glass, but both seemed to be intact after the shooting stopped.\n\nWhat's the basis for all this? Also, even if it does turn out that it wasn't a bullet but some other piece of shrapnel, it doesn't take away from the fact that someone tried to kill him.\n\nFrom my perspective this makes the liberals/lefties look more unhinged than just saying \"wish he didn't miss.\" It feels desperate, when I thunk it would be more effective to just not give a shit. Let him wine and complain while showing off his ear condom for the next month and just ignore him.",
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"content": "why not? it seems quite obvious that the left has to use populism too.. sounds like you are clinging to civility politics",
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"content": "There's nothing populist about baselessly claiming that Trump wasn't actually shot. Civility politics isn't sticking to the truth. I literally said I'd rather people just say \"I wish he didn't miss.\"\n\nPlease learn what these terms mean before mindlessly regurgitating them.",
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"content": "baseless? no medical report, wound was completely gone after 1-2 days and the picture of the flying bullet has a pretty high chance of being fake. i don’t think it’s unhinged. people just want to know the truth behind a very very weird event. i mean do you really believe that the SS (lol) just didn’t see the shooter taking position? this whole thing is so fucking sus",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Fake news",
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"content": "AI, right?",
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"content": "Haha, no it's real, but the fact that it could be AI is scaaaryyy 😬😬😬",
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"content": "Nah, bruh. This is definitely AI. Looks real, tho. Scary.",
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"content": "https://youtu.be/E0-10Rj_XcM?si=yy5j1FqgaLyx7Pg0\n\nSome big names among the dems are concocting a secret plan to hopefully counter trump and his project 2025 should he win.\n\nOf course we should still get out and vote to stop him but it looks like they are cooking something jic. ",
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"content": "Haha. Democrats have no answer to MAGA taking action other than \"vote blue no matter who,\" and \"DNC needs you to donate $5 before the end of today\" emails. If Trump wins I have no faith in the Democratic party being able to effectively put up a fight for any length of time. Voting for Biden is important don't get me wrong, but the Democrats are nothing but a necessary stop gap to give this country time to sort its shit out before the fascists takeover.",
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"content": "The fact that Nancy pelosi is still running the show says it all",
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"content": "Does it concern you that the thing you say \"says it all\" is based in complete ignorance of Hakeem Jeffries being the current dem leader in the House?",
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"content": "Biden has come out staunchly opposed to stepping down and is 100% going to push himself as candidate. If we're being practical, that means we should all shut up about how he needs to be replaced.\n\nThe only real argument for Biden stepping down is that a fast mini-primary would get voter base excited, but any benefit you get there goes out the window if you have to actively fight Biden to get a new 2024 candidate in. Not only does it confuse the entire narrative, it actively starts infighting in the left (though this whole news cycle has been great at doing that anyways.)\n\nWhat I don't get most of all is how this is any different now from the exact argument Vaush made about the primary selection: attack Biden and do everything you can to push him left in primary season, but once he's the guy, he's your guy. In the day or two immediately post debate, it's fine to raise the possibility of replacement. But that ship has sailed.\n\nAm I wrong? Is this not actually inconsistency? It feels like the \"fun based leftist\" thing to keep pushing Biden's replacement, but seems to now just be the new Bernie or Bust.",
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"content": "I'm as unimpressed as the next person but I think pushing Biden to step down at this point would be a recipe for repeating the 1968 election. Regardless of who's on the ticket we're voting against Republicans but we shouldn't be so eager to throw away the incumbency advantage.",
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"content": "Please, almighty liberal: show me where the incumbancy advantage is demonstrated anywhere other than just something simply stated from the last Fifth Column video you saw?",
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"content": "It's that it takes demonstratively high levels of political action to actually overcome it.",
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"content": "Which progressives have shown time and again that they don't have. Even when their guy is the incumbent, like Jamaal Bowman, they fumble things hard. It is madness that progressives still think that they deserve more than what they have considering how little their modern movement has put in beyond protesting.",
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"content": "I wouldn't say I'm a progressive, I'm a socialist, so I understand the plight of progressives. I understand where they are coming from and that yes they have a lot working against them, but yes you're right. It will take many more years for progressives to be viable if they ever are.\n\n\nThe reality is progressives are in no position to take the presidency. The groundwork still needs to happen. Progressives need more in the house and Senate before there is even a chance. \n\n\nIt would be madness to give up the incumbent advantage. It would require political action to a degree we have never seen from the population. \n\n\n\nOur focus should be on electing Biden and getting new voters to vote. I know that is hard pill to swallow for progressives, but that is our best use of the energy we have. Fighting it will only ensure our common enemy will win. We have the advantage and a real chance of winning if people set aside their pride here and do what needs to be done. \n\n\nI'll be on the phones and campaigning for Biden this year. Just like I did last time. I'll still protest for what is right after the election. It isn't either/or, but right now what's important is BIDEN WINS. \n\n\nMillions of lives are on the line right now. United we are strong. We have the numbers we just need to get them to vote. ",
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"content": "Biden endorsed Kamala ",
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"content": "Harris... What a joke.",
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"content": "No u",
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"content": "Big brain",
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"content": "This is actually insane. I actually don’t know what the goal is here other than hurt the dems. \n",
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"content": "The narrative right now is ‘biden is old and dems think he should step down’ and so they must make everyone fall in line with that for the clicks and views. \n\nAlso i heard from others wanting stuff on Trumps lies and they were told ‘Trump lying is not news’\n\nSo yeah thats what’s going on in mainstream media right now.",
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"content": "Yeah like ‘Biden old’ should also not be news. Sure I was shocked that he was that old sounding, but what he did manage to say was generally reasonable. \n\nTrump said incoherent and what I understood among his lies was extremely dangerous proposals. \n\nPretty sure everyone knew trump was an insane liar and Biden was ancient before and after that debate lol",
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"content": "It’s less “Biden Old” and more “HOLY SHIT THE PRESIDENT HAS GONE SENILE”",
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"content": "Okay? They can’t spare a minute to talk about the insane shit Trump’s done or wants to do? This pretty much proves that there is no left-leaning news org. If Trump being president gets them better ratings, they’ll do their damndest to make it happen.",
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"content": "On MSNBC they literally are. I’ve seen multiple of their stories on project 2025",
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"content": "I stand corrected. Most everything I see is Biden’s old/senile, even from supposed left-leaning online personalities. But as long as MSNBC is letting the main base know what’s what, we might have a chance.",
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"content": "Project 2025 has become a mainstream story on many of these larger news channels which is what sparked that awkward walk-back from trump about it.",
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"content": "Why does Nick Fuentes think he's white? I just don't understand this part.",
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"content": "He does, yes.",
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"content": "IT HAS NEVER BEEN THIS JOEVER - Vaush",
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"content": "The DNC will only be remembered for rolling the red carpet out for fascism and Blue MAGA BNMW cultists are just as complicit.",
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"content": "Four upvotes?\nJesus did Vaush’s fair estimate of Biden probably losing bring up all the people who don’t understand the point of Tactical voting?",
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"content": "You can be as tactical as you want but the average voter is seeing their tax money fuel a genocide all while they're paying 2k in rent and hundreds a week in groceries and they're tired of this doddering old fool and will stay home. He's easily the most depressing, most uninspiring incumbent ever. The only tactical approach is getting him tf out.",
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"content": "This is worthless. His campaign is gonna keep saying he's not dropping out right until the very second he is dropping out.",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "Could be. I think its just them trying to not look like they are just appointing Kamala. If its open and then Kamala easily wins (and wins quickly) then it would look democratic and make the party look united. ",
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"content": "I am *very* skeptical of anything being driven to this extent by donors. For all we know they could be trying to push the American equivalent of Keir Starmer on us",
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"content": "They'd love nothing more than an American Keir Starmer or Emmanuel Macron. You're not being conspiratorial or paranoid at all. Corporations and billionaires love the fiddlesticks out of pro-corporate Neoliberal Machiavellian semi-strongmen who sabotage their government's left flank, and aggressively stand for nothing but maintaining the status quo and ushering in more austerity, privatization, and compromising/playing footsie with the far- Right to get far-Right pro-billionaire and corporatocracy policies passed while keeping full-on Fascism at bay.",
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"content": "Queen AOC saying the truth. ",
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"content": "She is absolutely right. We need to cut off those offensive arms shipments and immediately stop the atrocities in Gaza and also Lebanon. Netanyahu needs a firm reality check for all of the horrifying shit he has done.",
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"content": "Three weeks. I believe in there being a time and a place for things, so three weeks. I expect the day after the election some people in Kamala world had better start talking about shutting this shit down. At that point, the die will be cast. I don’t expect her to lay out a full plan especially since we don’t know if she will win. But I do expect her team to acknowledge the atrocities. The American people will be paying attention.",
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"content": "I do genuinely think that if Kamala Harris *does* win, I think we will hopefully see a much better foreign policy team. Her National Security Advisor, Phil Gordon is pretty solid and she also will not have Antony Blinken back on as the Secretary of State.\n\nI have somewhat high hopes that she will at the very least be better than Biden. Its not a high bar but I do hope that she will indeed be at the very least a slight improvement.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "I love this man. ",
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"content": "Nah fuck corbyn, I cannot take any so called “anti-war” and “anti-imperialist” seriously when they say we shouldn’t arm Ukraine and that Ukraine should just surrender to the Russian, he’s just another leftist who never forgave the people of Eastern Europe for killing the Soviet Union",
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"content": "You got anyone better buddy? Doing a lot of complaining and everything you’re saying applies to Biden but even more considering the full blown genocide in Gaza and him ACTIVELY ENGAGING IN IT. He is giving the Nazis the chambers. Corbyn had absolutely dumb ass lefty foreign policy takes but he objectively is better than any other politician in the UK bar none.",
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"content": "If a genocide denier is the best your the UK can do when it comes to politicians than it deserves its fate",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Sean O'Brien endorses article blaming trans people and “diversity” for factory closures",
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"content": "There are a lot of bad folks in unions. Unions are important, but just being in one doesn’t make you good. Every blue-collar union guy I know is a hardcore trumper. And if he wins and fucks them over, they’ll blame democrats and keep voting for republicans. 🤷♂️",
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"content": "\"How could the Democrats have let Republicans do this?!\"",
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"content": "Yeah, it's really concerning that Republican have completely abandoned institutionalism and Democrats can't respond except by writing very high handed speeches about how this isn't true to the nation's spirit.",
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"content": "What are democrats going to do? Fight Republicans in trial by combat? \n\nI always hear \"the dems aren't doing anything about it!\" What in the fuck can they do? \n\nThese are the same people who claim dems and Republicans are on the same team anytime something bipartisan happens. Almost like dems need republican votes to get things passed. Biden isn't even trying to appeal to leftists. He's appealing to liberals and centrist fence sitters. \n\nPeople act like democrats can do anything other than propose laws and verbally call stuff out. That's not how American government works. They're like \"why isn't Biden abusing the power I'm afraid of trump wielding and sentencing him to death?!\" Not understanding the concept of a precedent",
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"content": "https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4773262-vance-trump-running-mate-front-runner/",
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"content": "Imo, terrible strategic decision. Vance has many of the same weaknesses as Trump, with few unique strengths. This is a pick that will energize his base, but do little to interest anyone else. The negative media coverage I’ve seen about Vance has preempted this nicely, which is why I assumed Trump wouldn’t pick him… I guess Haley and Lake just didn’t have the gas.",
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"content": "Theory: Vance is going to be Trump's attack dog so Trump can attempt to be more Statesman like and capitalize on the assassination attempt. I don't think this will work, because Trump is Trump, but it is a strategy I guess.",
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"content": "https://youtu.be/E0-10Rj_XcM?si=yy5j1FqgaLyx7Pg0\n\nSome big names among the dems are concocting a secret plan to hopefully counter trump and his project 2025 should he win.\n\nOf course we should still get out and vote to stop him but it looks like they are cooking something jic. ",
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"content": "Bro they could have this election in the bag if they just put forward any candidate other than Biden or Harris, contingency plans are good but these mfs are so defeatist",
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"content": "What’s wrong with Harris?",
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"content": "Her polling compared to the other non-Biden contenders? Her performance in 2020? Her unlikeability and complete lack of presence for the past 4 years? Her past as a prosecutor sending black men to prison for weed offences? This is just off the top of my head. Harris came in 3rd in her own state in the 2020 primaries and was dead last among many candidates in a lot of polling.",
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"content": "She polls higher than other potential dem candidates rn. Her most memorable moment from the 2020 run was the moment in the debate where she called Biden out on his bussing policies, which ppl remember more than poll numbers. “Unlikeability” is really just ur personal opinion of her. I won’t defend mistakes she made as a prosecutor but she is still more electable than any other potential dem candidate rn.",
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"content": "That bussing line is a detriment to her because it shows her becoming the VP of someone she vehemently disliked and accused of racism against black people. Also cmon. More people definitely remember her record as a prosecutor than what her stance on bussing was. Her support of Biden despite calling out bussing is going to be an attack ad against her by the republicans. \n\nIn terms of polling, she does around the same as other candidates and worse if you adjust the polls for name recognition. And this is before any attack ads have even launched against her and her awful record and statements. Her approval rating is also around 37%, around the same as Trump and Biden. There’s no benefit to having Harris on the ticket over a governor from a swing state like Whitmer because who are you going to attract with Harris? The black community that she put in jail as a prosecutor? California voters who already vote blue? \n\nIt’s a nonsensical risk when better candidates exist. We will be headed for Hillary 2.0 again with Harris. The only benefits to having a Harris ticket is having access to the fundraising that’s been done. Any candidate would be better than Biden right now but Harris isn’t the best candidate by far.",
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"content": "U can have a dispute with someone without “Vehemently hating” them. Cooperating with ppl that u disagree with on certain issues shouldn’t b seen as a negative trait. I don’t think most ppl remember her time as a prosecutor from over a decade ago more than what she did on the debate stage 4 years ago in from of millions of ppl. Her polling is generally above other candidates idk what poll ur looking at but a majority have her above. Naturally the vps approval rating is tied to that of the presidents, it’s not a true reflection of people’s feelings about her as an individual. She polls better with ppl of color than any other dem candidate. I think the comparisons to Hillary Clinton is strange and uncalled for. And yes, 200 million worth of campaign funding is kind of a big deal, especially this late in the game.",
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"content": "I didn’t mean to misquote u, u said “vehemently dislike” which is kinda of a silly phrase, I mean it is basically hatred at that point.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Clooney has fallen, I repeat Clooney has fallen",
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"content": "CLOOOONEY!!!!!?????????????? GEORGE. CLOONEY.????????????\n\nBiden, Biden baby pleaseeeeeeeeee see the writing on the **FUCKING WALL**",
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"content": "Not one viable alternative has been presented. (No, California cop and hollow corporate husk Kamala doesn't have a chance.)",
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"content": "Present an anime character or a pet, might as well 🤷🏻♀️",
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"content": "What matters is how people are going to vote.",
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"content": "anyone who wants to vote for biden will almost certainly vote for kamala",
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"content": "No they won't. She is that unlikable.",
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"content": "she is certainly more electable than someone who can’t even string sentences together",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Allan Lichtman, Mr. 13 Keys, just dropped his electoral map prediction",
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"content": "I gotta admit, Allan Lichtman is a quack but if he's right in the end he's right.",
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"content": "He's definitely a little wacky but at the end of the day I don't think he's malicious or anything",
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"content": "He predicted hesitantly* Trump would win in 2016\n\n***Predicted right.***\n\n**After Clinton clinched the nom, he thought, maybe the US would reject him because of how uniquely bad he was, but even then, he thought Trump would win.*",
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"content": "He (his keys) predicted Trump would win the popular vote. He retroactively states that ever since 2000 his keys just predict the winner, but even his 2016 book explaining the keys says they predict the winner of the national popular vote. The truth is he predicted correctly every election of the last 40 years (including 2000) EXCEPT for 2016, which is ironically the one he's most credited for.",
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"content": "He’s still sorta right.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Unions are cooked ",
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"content": "I know that unions are vital, but man, some of the biggest pieces of shit I know are lifelong union guys. They’re racist, sexist, homophobic, and proudly dumb. They like the benefits they get. They don’t give a shit about anyone else. And I’m in a pretty blue state.",
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"content": "Their bigotry overrides their want for labor rights.",
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"content": "Yep.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "What is happening? ",
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"content": "Chaos lol",
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"content": "I'm in the Nothing Ever Happens camp. Biden is staying in.",
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"content": "Everyone who has seen a coup within a political party will tell you what's happening right now among the Dems' upper echelons is a coup.\n\nSure, coups can fail, but the idea that there is nothing taking place is just pure ignorance at this point.",
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"content": "I mean, things happen, but they turn out to be nothing burgers. Like the Trump Assassination attempt. Completely memory holed.",
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"content": "This is except a coup within a political party in power is almost never a non-event. Alliances are forged and broken, and these relationships will have ramifications for powerful players down the line.",
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"content": "Breaking news: netanyahu declared as the DNC front runner",
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"content": "What's ironic about Joe Biden is that even past Republican presidents including Ronald Reagan demonstrated a political will for boundaries between themselves and Israel that he consistently fails to show.\n\nThis failure to draw the line is the whole reason the extent of the atrocities in Gaza is so historically unprecedented.",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Pour it on em boys! Keep calling these Freaks out",
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"content": "It's hard to fathom just how much better dem's messaging has been. Like they're actually trying now",
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"content": "Dems when someone realizes that the high road is a losing strategy and just calls a spade a spade.",
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"content": "This isn't even the low road",
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"content": "We can go lower. Dig the tunnels!",
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"content": "Get Kendrick Lamar on this, he'll find something to kill em on",
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"content": "You are a redditor in a political subreddit, having a conversation with another redditor about politics.",
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"content": "Seeing Pelosi endorse an open convention is starting to make me think AOC was right ",
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"content": "Could be. I think its just them trying to not look like they are just appointing Kamala. If its open and then Kamala easily wins (and wins quickly) then it would look democratic and make the party look united. ",
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"content": "Biden just have to endorse Kamala and I think she wins pretty easily",
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"content": "Kamala winning the blitz primary would still be the most likely scenario imo but don’t underestimate the ability of the donors to bribe and shill some controllable moderate into the nom",
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