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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:42:02PM -0500, Brian French wrote:
> hey i have a problem:
> i have a rpms that i have installed that i want to uninstall, i do it
> like so:
> rpm -e [rpm package]
> and it gives the error: package not installed, so i install it like
> so:
Its a little confusing but you install rpms like
rpm -ivh packagename-0.1.1.rpm
uninstalls must be done without the version info like
rpm -e packagename ie: rpm -e sendmail or
rpm -e sendmail-devel.
give that a go and it should work np.
Phil,
> rpm -i [rpm package]
> and it gives the error: package already installed, so i force it to
> install like so:
> rpm -i --force [rpm package]
> this installs it and then i try to uninstall it again and it still
> gives me the same error: package not installed.
>
> How can i get it to recognize that the package is indeed installed it,
> and/or get it to unstall it?
>
> Thanx in advance,
> Brian French
>
> -French
>
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I gota thank all you kind folk who sent thier well wishes our way. It was
a bumpy ride but everything is working out and allthe good vibes are a
tremendous help. Ive saved each one and along with the cards and other
emails we have been getting we are goign to print them out add them to
Benjamins baby book.
Ive had just enough time to Gimp up a pic so folks can see the little
bloke. Head on over to http://wsmf.blogspot.com/ and have a gander at the
boy.
-tom(i cant feedem so I changem)whore
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Joel Warren wrote:
>
> Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
> Encoding: quoted-printable
> Hey Greg! My name is joel Warren and I need to cancel earthlink. Your message was posted awhile ago so I am not sure if you can still refer me to someone or a # that i can call about cancelling. I would appreciate it! Thanks! Joel
Hey Joel,
Your message wasn't clear if you are cancelling a
regular earthlink account or the Omnisky inherited one.
I'm sure if you call their customer service number
they can unsubscribe you. I took me 4 tries,
so make sure you get a confirmation number. They'll
try and not give you one and ignore your call just
to make it really inconvenient.
http://support.earthlink.net/support/CONTACT/phone.jsp
Out of interest, what search engine and term did you
do to find that article?
Greg
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Regarding:
Another problem I have is that I cannot install my ISDN, USB modem ( LASAT Speed Basic ), however im pretty sure its not supported by Linux, but again it is featured in the Hardware Browser, without installed drivers.
Thanks for your replies.... However i still cant get it to detect the External USB modem. I also have an internal 56k fax modem, but i cannot get that detected either ( maybe its because it was designed for Windows and is not supported ). Im not going to buy a new modem ( I think 2 is more than enough for 1 PC ).
It could well be my inexperience with Linux that is making this more difficult, but whatever it is iv just about had enough!! Any last gasp ideas would be welcome
Many Thanks
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Ertzinger [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Documentation about built-in RPM macros?
>
>
> Hi.
>
> Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > recommends *against* using '%configure' ("We will try to
> support users
> > > who accidentally type the leading % but this should not be relied
> > > upon."), and yet
>
> [snip]
>
> > They're just suggesting people use "./configure" instead.
>
> No, they do not (what would be the use of that, anyway?).
> They say that
> they will _try_ to eval macros even if the user forgot to pass the
> leading '%', but that this feature should not be relied upon.
>
Hmm. 1. The quote is not suggesting that people use './configure'.
2. The quote is not saying that rpm will _try_ to eval macros even
if the user forgot to pass the leading '%'. It is saying the opposite:
rpm will try to support users who "forgot" to _leave off_ the leading
'%'. That is what the documentation _says_, but rpm does not follow
the documentation. If you leave off the '%', then rpm will not eval
the macro, at least for rpm 4.0.4.
Confused?
Anyway, back to my original problem: what about documentation for
the macros '%post', '%postun', and '%files'? Here's some of what
I found "documented" in the the CHANGES file that 'rpm' includes:
Line 46:
- macro for %files, always include %defattr(), redhat config
only.
Line 49:
- bail on %files macro.
Hmm. So, there is no %files macro?
Line 172-174:
- add "rpmlib(ScriptletInterpreterArgs)" to track
%post -p "/sbin/ldconfig -n /usr/lib"
incompatibilities.
I'm unable to find a corresponding description for %postun, but it
appears to work just the same. The important things to remember are:
1. Don't forget the double-quotes around the -p argument string. If
you leave them off, you'll get the cryptic error message:
error: line #: Package does not exist: %post -p /sbin/ldconfig -n
/usr/lib
2. This only works with RPM 4.0.3 or later.
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Marc --
Since perl itself is a scripting language, and allows code to be eval'ed,
I can't see why we need to go the whole hog and implement another
turing-complete scripting language in perl.
Let's go back to *why* this would be useful. As far as I can see, you're
proposing this to deal with multi-match rules. There's already a tracker
in the bug DB for these, with a proposed implementation.
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=47
I think this might have stalled due to shortcomings in the existnig
proposal, so I've just added my own thoughts on how to implement them. ;)
Comments on the proposed system would be welcome folks.... reply to the
bug db.
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Apologies if this has been answered before on this list. I can't
find a way to search the archives. I did my best to scan through
the archive messages, but can't find my answer. Please advise if
there is a search engine somewhere, Thanks.
I'm trying to set up a smtp relay mail server using postfix,
Spamassassin, and amavisd-new. (no local delivery, just an
anti-spam filter box) I have installed razor-agents-sdk-2.02 and
razor-agents-2.125 (in that order) on a RH 7.3 box for this. But
when I try to load amavisd from the command line (as root), I get
errors with:
Can't locate Razor/Client.pm in @INC. But the machine does have
a Client.pm on it, in fact, several, at:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Client.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/WAIT/Client.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Client.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.6.1/Frontier/Client.pm.rawcall
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.6.1/Frontier/Client.pm
What am I missing? Thanks!
Scott
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Hi,
Is it possible to use razor without filtering empty mails as spamm?
An mail with an attachment is considered spamm. Is this normal?
Or I mysqlf like to send emails to myself where all important is said in
subject and body is empty (for remaining smth).
Thanks,
Raido Kurel
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 11:11:47AM -0400, Bill Stoddard wrote:
> people? Either these folks are social misfits who have no understanding of
> human interactions (else they would try more constructive means to get their
> message across) or they are just out to get their rocks off regardless of
> how it affects other people, and that is immoral at best and downright evil
> at worst.
Are you kidding? It was fucking BRILLIANT. Do you know what exposure that got
them? They sat perfectly so that the cameras could focus on the mildly
exasperated Rumsfeld and their "UN Inspections not war" banner. That picture
will be dominating the news cycles in China, Iraq, Russia, Germany, and
France, at least. For goodness sakes, you're arguing about it on FoRK. In
politics by sound-bite, those two rude hags kicked ass and took names.
For the record, I don't think they even got arrested, which is a shame. It
is part of the game -- make an ass of yourself, get your point on the nightly
news, spend a couple days in the clink for disorderly.
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> it's engineering that uses the general mechanism of genetics (inheritance of
> traits) without understanding the specific mechanisms (genes, DNA, etc.).
Ah, like the way we used to make babies. And wine. And war.
Cheers,
Wayne
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Mark Page <[email protected]> printfd
APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR 80 CHAR LINES IN WEB MAIL (will get a mail client for this soon, honest)
> Has anybody on the list installed/used this distro? If so wouldn't mind a bit
> of help.
>
> Burnt the ISO's from the latest Linux Format magazine. Took a couple of
> attempts to install but got there. My problem - I have a standard dial-up
> modem and the installation gives you the network card setup so internet
> download is out of the question, but, I installed the Stage3 tarball which
> puts the .tgz files on your harddrive.
>
> So methinks, I have the software there and all I need to do is install so as
> 1) get the necessary programmes to connect to the net and 2) install any
> other programmes I might need.
>
> What actually happens is that if, for example, I attempt to install the KDE
> package, the system goes looking for any dependencies on the net despite the
> fact that the dependencies reside on my hard drive. Obviously I can't install
> anything.
>
> Have checked all docs on the web page and nothing deals with a standard
> dial-up modem or how to tell the package manager to look for the dependencies
> on the hard drive.
>
> Anybody able to help me here?
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
Yup I'm running it on my k6 233 laptop. It's tres sweet.
I would recommend getting wvdial, opening a virtual terminal dialing the internet and then emerging the packages you need.
I did my install over my home lan and the lan in work (which has DSL - running Linux as firewall/router/mailserver of course).
But yes you will need at least wvdial to make this puppy happen me thinks.
In fact it looks as if the base install comes with wvdial for just this kind of instal.
But I just found this on the Gentoo site for you.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=4691&highlight=modem
Specifically
quote:
If it is not too obvious, these are the steps I took.
* Boot off the install CD
* modprobe serial
* setserial (if needed)
* create mount point for other distribution
* mount other distribution
* chroot'd to other distribution
* su - to regular user
* ran wvdial
* switch consoles and install as normal
And yes I do give better technical support to people who use
distros I like.
I'm only laughing on the outside
My smile is just skin deep
If you could see inside I'm really crying
You might join me for a weep.
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Do you know which app is making the connection?
At 20:18 03/08/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello all
>I'm looking for advice. My pc has developed a disturbing tendency of trying
>to access IP 62.17.143.253 without my consent. It has got to the stage where
>normal web-browsing is almost impossible.
>I have checked IP address on RIPE database and I know precisely who is being
>called. I contacted that company on 14 July, when the problem first arose
>and asked for a remedy but (surprise) got no reply.
>A helpful person on the ie.comp list suggested Adaware spyware removal. I
>ran this and haven't had a problem again until today.
>The offending program is obviously not in Adaware db. (I run adaware with
>current ref files every day now).?
>Any suggestions, please, for removing whatever the f*** is causing this
>from my pc?
>Brian
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Craig,
For the most part, 99% times 99% users agree on what is spam. This is the
nature of the spam problem. Now if you were to use a "personal trust"
system, you'd have a huge personal trust group that would include 99% of
the userbase. This means 99% times you'd be coming to the same conclusion,
only after burning several orders of magnitude more CPU cycles. That would
be stupid. Also, it would take several orders of magnitude longer to
bootstrap and reach effectiveness. Sub-optimal in the extreme.
As regards to the problems with the "gray" areas you mentioned, servers
recognize such content, and razor-agents can use this information to make
individual determination. Not to mention, users can set a local confidence
level they are confortable with.
cheers,
vipul.
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 01:09:22PM -0700, Craig R . Hughes wrote:
> By system-trust vs personal trust I don't mean that the system doesn't
> have a trust rating for each user, but rather that each individual has
> one system-wide trust rating. Your trust rating for scoring my mail is
> the same as your trust rating for scoring your own email, or Joe
> Schmoe's email. You may be great at flagging most spam, but just really
> bad at flagging one particular piece of controversial mail which is
> "gray spam" -- ie some people love it, others hate it. Ideally, I should
> have my own personal trust score for you which agrees with my beliefs
> about that controversial mail, rather than the system-wide beliefs. If
> that doesn't happen, then depending on the trust system's weightings,
> there are 3 possibilities:
>
> 1. All "gray" mail is blocked as spam (ie lots of false positives for
> individual users)
> 2. All "gray" mail is allowed through as nonspam (ie lots of false
> negatives for individuals)
> 3. The entire trust system collapses because noone is trusted due to
> conflicting votes about "gray" spam.
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Is it possible to use new apt to do (null) to RH8 upgrade?
Even if it's possible, are there good reasons why maybe I should not do it and
just use the RH iso's (I don't think RH8 will upgrade from (null), maybe up2date
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> As I've said before, American
> Indian Reservations are quite
> possibly the only place on the
> planet where you can find trailer
> park shantytowns where every
> household is bringing in a
> six-figure income. I wish I
> could be exploited like that.
Like what, like the rare exception case you've raised or like the "on
average" case mentioned in the post you were replying to?
Max
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With v2.14 of razor client and using Solaris 9 with sendmail 8.12.5 I have
managed to get smrazor working (milter) -- sort of ... With light server
loads, it seems to do fine; however during peak traffic times (or peak
catalogue server usage???) , the smrazor milter stops and sometime dumps
core as well. Does anyone know of a limit in terms of number of
messages/minute that can be theoretically processed? I have noticed timeouts
occuring (I set the milter timeout per message to 15 seconds) often in huge
lumps and the occasional "Could not get valid info from Discovery Servers")
?????
I am not using procmail because this [cluster of] server is a gateway on to
5 different pop3 servers (5 different domains), ergo, local users won't work
because of overlapping usernames ...(or insanely huge virtusertable to alias
mappings .....)
Alternatively does anyone have a working, high-capacity milter for this or
any other related ideas???
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Rohit Khare said:
> > SpamAssassin rated it spam (barely). Gotta stop
> > using those "words and phrases which indicate porn" :-)
> Yes, boys and girls, Mr. Assassin, like Mr. Lott, gets very annoyed if
> you call the Great American Shrine a... "boob tube"
Er, patches gratefully accepted ;)
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Cheers, Adam.
Perhaps people are starting to notice how profit motive drains the
meaning out of their lives. Kinda sucks to be an ant farming for the
corporate lords. Funny how most of the rest of the world is more and
more apprehensive towards American Democracy.
I just went to DC for the first time. I was awestruck by the
monuments, the words of Thomas Jefferson, the Spirit of Democracy set
in stone. Amazing to think that in little more than 200 years our
government could be so far removed from those honorable principles.
Adam Smith presumed that the marketplace would regulate itself
through morality, good faith, and responsibility. Corporate America
seems to feel that those principles stand in the way of making the
real bucks. How much more can they co-opt and commodify? Get your
copyrights in quick so you can hold on to your piece of the pie.
Health care, public programs, pensions, social security - these are
now regarded as worthless unless they can turn a profit.
Ah, socialized medicine. Siestas. 6 week vacation leave. I hear Spain
is nice this time of year...
At 2:35 PM -0700 7/25/02, Adam L. Beberg wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tom wrote:
>
>> "Around the world, there is a growing sense that democracy has not
>> delivered development" Sakiko Fukuda-Parr UN report author
>
>Or perhaps it is the unregulated and out of control capitalism used as a
>tool to concentrate wealth and form a greed-based society?
>
>I notice the top 5 have a good amount of socialism in their systems to
>regulate the capitalism, especially in things like health care and
>education.
>
>Just look at our health care - no insurance = no care. Or education - gimme
>my voucher so I can get my kids out of the system while their IQ is still
>over 20.
>
>South American countries are currently figuring out just where this
>greed-based system ends up, and are looking for a way out.
>
>It was a fun ride tho wasnt it?
>
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"Adam L. Beberg" <[email protected]> writes:
> > Interestingly, it was the VC that convinced Zope Corp. to go opensource.
>
> But wasnt that before they realized that Open Source(TM) ment they couldnt
> control it?
If you're going to assume that they were stupid, why not assume that
they still are stupid, and never did realize it?
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Once upon a time, Chris wrote :
> On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:36, Matthias Saou wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Two new things today :
> >
> > 1) I've had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old
> > proprietary IVR software that doesn't work on newer releases :-( So
> > I've recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and
> > they are now available with a complete "os, updates & freshrpms" apt
> > repository at apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested.
>
> Gack. Did you try 7.3 with the compat-glibc first? Or does it require an
> antique kernel?
It requires a 2.2 kernel, plus antique just-about-everything :-/ Real crap!
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URL: http://boingboing.net/#85483138
Date: Not supplied
Article about a scam expert who belives the mom who beat her child is a grifter
belonging to the Irish Travelers. The reason she beat up her little girl, he
thinks, is becasue she was pissed that the kid blew her con at a toy store.
Wright believes the beating happened for one of two reasons. "The little
girl gave away the scam to an employee or the mom was so ticked off at not
getting refunds she took it out on the little girl."
I don't know anything about the Irish Travelers, but I'm wondering if they are
getting a bad rap about being con-artists. This Irish Traveler FAQ[1] says
"some Travellers are con men, but, just like other Americans, most are not."
Link[2] Discuss[3]
[1] http://www.pitt.edu/~alkst3/USA.html
[2] http://www.wndu.com/news/contact16/contact16_2450.php
[3] http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/umA3qpRqVJkRm
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Has anyone had any experience with using a digital camera with Linux, I'm
thinking of buying one. The camera will definitely be a HP camera (Since I
work for them and get a company discount) either a photosmart 318 or a
photosmart 120 and I would prefer to know before I buy if I can get it to
work or not
Steven Satelle
TAC
i606 4372
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On July 19, [email protected] said:
>
> There are lots of benefits to using hard links, for all sorts of reasons. In
"...but there is insufficient room in the margin of this email to
describe them..." :)
> this case, they are being used to provide two quite different namespaces
> for the same set of files.
Sure, but soft links would do the same. To be honest, I'm trying to
think of a useful use of hard links right now, and I'm a little
stumped. There's gotta be some benefit that I'm missing that's
immediately obvious to everyone.
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>
> Microsoft has announced that they plan to remove Java from Windows.
> They took it out of XP already and it has to be installed with a
> service pack. Somehow, I can't imagine them removing the ability to
> run C programs.
They removed /their/ Java VM. They didn't remove the ability to run Java
programs.
Anybody is free to develop their own Java VM and make it kick ass. As
someone said earlier in the thread, nobody is capable or willing to do that.
I've done a bunch of Java and haven't run into huge problems running the
same bytecode across Solaris or Win2K.
What actual problems have people actually run into. Actually.
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HELP.
I had GPG working.
I updated from version gnupg-1.0.6 to gnupg-1.0.7.
This moved gpg from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin and I changed the path
in the exmh 'executable'.
With that fix, EXMH knows I have GPG, and puts the line
Check the signature with GnuPG
in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS
gives
Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDDF997A
Can't check signature: public key not found
So, something else is missing.
Can somebody tell me what it is,- Ive tried grepping on everything
that I can think of with no luck at all.
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> in adding cream to spaghetti carbonara, which has the same effect on pasta as
> making a pizza a deep-pie;
I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and ask
what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream? I've never seen a
recipe that hasn't used this. Personally I use low fat creme fraiche because it
works quite nicely but the only time I've seen an supposedly authentic recipe
for carbonara it was identical to mine (cream, eggs and lots of fresh parmesan)
except for the creme fraiche.
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:27:17 GMT
Jeremy Allaire: Wholistic Web Services[1].
[1] http://radio.weblogs.com/0113297/stories/2002/09/24/wholisticWebServices.html
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(pace Giraudoux)
To be more precise, I believe that there will be no "war of civilizations"
between the Western and the Muslim, and not because of drum-beating or
war-mongering from some parts, but due to stuff like this:
http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3210--286553-,00.html
>L'assemblée nationale turque a réalisé l'impossible : pour satisfaire
>aux demandes de l'Union européenne, le Parlement, lors d'une session
>qui a duré plus de seize heures, a, aboli la peine de mort (sauf en
>cas de guerre), éliminé les obstacles légaux à l'éducation et à la
>diffusion en langue kurde, levé certaines restrictions rendant
>l'organisation de manifestations difficile et mis fin à l'imposition
>de peines pour critiques envers l'armée ou d'autres institutions étatiques.
i.e.,
>The Turkish National Assembly achieved the impossible: to satisfy
>European Union demands, the Parlement, during a session lasting more
>than sixteen hours, abolished the death penalty (except in war time),
>eliminated legal obstacles to teaching and spreading of the Kurdish
>language, lifted certain restrictions making it difficult to organise
>protest marches and ended penalties imposed for criticism of the army
>and other state institutions.
This is the way forward, IMO. Just wait a couple of years until
66 million Muslim Turks are making great strides towards democracy
and prosperity in the E.U. and Syria, Lebanon etc start lining up and
making similar decisions.
Of course there are hard-liners who would be right at home on
Rumsfeld's staff, but they got out-voted:
>La peine de mort s'est révélée le sujet le plus épineux : les
>ultra-nationalistes étaient déterminés à obtenir la pendaison du
>dirigeant du PKK (kurde), Abdullah Öcalan, considéré par les Turcs
>comme personnellement responsable de la mort de plus de 30 000
>personnes. Öcalan avait été condamné à mort en juin 1999, mais le
>gouvernement avait accepté d'attendre le verdict de la Cour européenne
>des droits de l'homme avant de l'exécuter. De nombreux nationalistes
>estimaient également que l'octroi de droits culturels aux Kurdes
>représenterait une concession aux revendications des "terroristes".
i.e.,
>The death penalty turned out to be the thorniest issue: the
>ultra-nationalists were determined to secure the hanging of the PKK
>leader, Abdullah Öcalan, considered by the Turks to be personally
>responsible for the deaths of more than 30,000 people. Öcalan had
>been condemned to death in June 1999, but the government had accepted
>to wait for the verdict of the European Court of Human Rights before
>executing him. Many nationalists also believed that handing cultural
>rights to the Kurds would constitute a concession to "terrorist"
>demands.
Over 'n out,
Rob.
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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:
> You seem not to know what a "poor man's divorce" is.
I know very little in general. I hope you can excuse me for that.
> It is an old term, from the time when divorce was
> difficult, but walking was easy, and identity was
> not so locked down as it is today. Not every widow
> had a dead husband.
Yeah, you could always run away, strangle your wife, your wife could
always poison you, scooby dooby doo. It wasn't the rule, and I don't feel
like desintegrating into a nitpicking orgy. You win.
> >I'm seeing lack of innovation ..
>
> That doesn't tell us anything except what is
> happening in Eugen Leitl's life. The more common
Yeah, I happen to live in a small hole, under the roots of an old oak
tree. You don't, so innovation is a global phenomenon.
> observation is that the rate of change is increasing.
> Do you have any data that might persuade us that what
> you see is more telling than what others see?
>
> >gerontocracy favors gerontocracy.
>
> I would have thought that gerontocracy favors biotech
> research and plenty of young workers to pay taxes.
So thought I, but apparently all it favours is a lot of whining about good
old times, the inability of youngn's to pay for your pension and the
health insurance, and the generic influx of uncouth furriners, which must
be stopped, Somehow.
> Note that the fertility rate doesn't result from
> decisions made by the old, but by the young. If we
Uh, I'm kinda aware of that.
> want more kids, we have to convince people who are
> in their twenties to become parents.
Now we're talking. Got a plan?
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Apologies all. I have comitted a cardinal sin by not specifying that this
was for a windows machine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenn Humborg" <[email protected]>
To: "David Crozier" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: [ILUG] Autorun CDs
> > Cheers All for your words of wisdom.
> >
> > I came across this which has worked a treat:-
> >
> > http://www.avdf.com/mar97/art_autorun.html
>
> (This is all Windows-related autorun stuff).
>
> So why did you waste the time of those who looked
> up Linux-related info for you? If you said that it
> was for Windows, you'd probably have gotten both
> more relevant answers and flames for asking this on
> a _Linux_ mailing list.
>
> Sheesh...
>
> Later,
> Kenn
>
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Hi.
Matthias Saou <[email protected]> wrote:
> repository... and there's where the problem will be : It will say that
> there are two synaptic-0.24-fr1 packages (one installed, the other
> available) with the same version but different dependencies :-/
> That's why I always keep package versions lower for older distributions.
Ah, now I see. This is a non-issue here, so I'll rebuild locally :)
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Good idea!
This could also be a job for P2P; lots of people would love to
devote their spare cycles, bandwidth, and unblocked IP addresses
to giving the Chinese unfettered net access.
In a sense, this is what the "peek-a-booty" project does:
http://www.peek-a-booty.org
But let's play out the next few moves:
Good Guys: Google enables SSL access
Bad Guys: Chinese government again blocks all access to Google domains
Good Guys: Set up Google proxies on ever-changing set of hosts (peek-a-booty)
Bad Guys: Ban SSL (or any unlicensed opaque traffic) at the national firewall
Good Guys: Hide Google traffic inside other innocuous-looking activity
Bad Guys: Require nationwide installation of client-side NetNannyish
software
Good Guys: Offer software which disables/spoofs monitoring software
Bad Guys: Imprison and harvest organs from people found using
monitoring-disabling-software
...and on and on.
The best we can hope is that technological cleverness, by raising the
costs of oppression or by provoking intolerable oppression, brings
social liberalization sooner rather than later.
- Gordon
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From: "Rohit Khare" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: How about subsidizing SSL access to Google?
[a cheeky letter to the editors of the Economist follows, along with the
article I was commenting on... Rohit]
In your article about Chinese attempts to censor Google last week ("The
Search Goes On", Sept. 19th), the followup correctly noted that the most
subversive aspect of Google's service is not its card catalog, which
merely points surfers in the right direction, but the entire library. By
maintaining what amounts to a live backup of the entire World Wide Web,
if you can get to Google's cache, you can read anything you'd like.
The techniques Chinese Internet Service Providers are using to enforce
these rules, however, all depend on the fact that traffic to and from
Google, or indeed almost all public websites, is unencrypted. Almost all
Web browsers, however, include support for Secure Sockets Layer (SSL)
encryption for securing credit card numbers and the like. Upgrading to
SSL makes it effectively impossible for a 'man-in-the-middle' to meddle;
censorship would have to be imposed on each individual computer in
China. The only choice left is to either ban the entire site (range of
IP addresses), but not the kind of selective filtering reported on in
the article.
Of course, the additional computing power to encrypt all this traffic
costs real money. If the United States is so concerned about the free
flow of information, why shouldn't the Broadcasting Board of Governors
sponsor an encrypted interface to Google, or for that matter, the rest
of the Web?
To date, public diplomacy efforts have focused on public-sector
programming for the Voice of America, Radio Sawa, and the like. Just
imagine if the US government got into the business of subsidizing secure
access to private-sector media instead. Nothing illustrates the freedom
of the press as much as the wacky excess of the press itself -- and most
of it is already salted away at Google and the Internet Archive project.
On second thought, I can hardly imagine this Administration *promoting*
the use of encryption to uphold privacy rights. Never mind...
Best,
Rohit Khare
===========================================================
The search goes on
China backtracks on banning Googleup to a point
Sep 19th 2002 | BEIJING
From The Economist print edition
IN CHINESE, the nickname for Google, an American Internet search engine,
is gougou, meaning doggy. For the country's fast-growing population of
Internet users (46m, according to an official estimate), it is proving
an elusive creature. Earlier this month, the Chinese authorities blocked
access to Google from Internet service providers in Chinaapparently
because the search engine helped Chinese users to get access to
forbidden sites. Now, after an outcry from those users, access has been
restored.
An unusual climbdown by China's zealous Internet censors? Hardly. More
sophisticated controls have now been imposed that make it difficult to
use Google to search for material deemed offensive to the government.
Access is still blocked to the cached versions of web pages taken by
Google as it trawls the Internet. These once provided a handy way for
Chinese users to see material stored on blocked websites.
After the blocking of Google on August 31st, many Chinese Internet users
posted messages on bulletin boards in China protesting against the move.
Their anger was again aroused last week when some Chinese Internet
providers began rerouting users trying to reach the blocked Google site
to far less powerful search engines in China.
Duncan Clark, the head of a Beijing-based technology consultancy firm,
BDA (China) Ltd, says China is trying a new tactic in its efforts to
censor the Internet. Until recently, it had focused on blocking
individual sites, including all pages stored on them. Now it seems to be
filtering data transmitted to or from foreign websites to search for key
words that might indicate undesirable content. For example earlier this
week when using Eastnet, a Beijing-based Internet provider, a search on
Google for Falun Gonga quasi-Buddhist exercise sect outlawed in China
usually aborted before all the results had time to appear. Such a search
also rendered Google impossible to use for several minutes.
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On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 09:03:40PM -0400, Yannick Gingras wrote:
> This make me wonder about the relative protection of smart cards. They have
> an internal procession unit around 4MHz. Can we consider them as trusted
> hardware ? The ability to ship smart cards periodicaly uppon cashing of a
> monthly subscription fee would not raise too much the cost of "renting" the
> system. Smart card do their own self encryption. Can they be used to
> decrypt data needed by the system ? The input of the system could me mangled
> and the would keep a reference of how long it was in service.
>
> This sounds really feasible but I may be totaly wrong. I may also be wrong
> about the safety of a smart card.
>
> What do you think ?
That's similar to using hard-locks (either the old parallel, or the new
usb).
The problem is that that piece of hardware is trustworthy, but the rest of
the PC isn't, so a cracker just needs to simulate the lock/smart card, or
peek at the executable after the lock has been deactivated.
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Barbara wrote:
Pictish pictograms (still undeciphered)
-----------------------
I'd be interested in an update on the latest thinking on these things.
Particularly the 'swimming elephant' pictogram.
There's a book come out recently on the world's undeciphered scripts
(including Linear A and Etruscan).
Has any list member read it?
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Anyone notice that Esat have started routing most of
their traffic through Concert... I've just had my
first >32hop traceroute since the 1995(ish)
So much for being at the heart of the Internet !
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On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 12:52, Harri Haataja wrote:
> Another thing I see in debian but not in my RH boxen.
>
> http://falconseye.sourceforge.net/
>
> It's a GL(?) interface to nethack :)
Take a look at <http://cachalot.ods.org/>, I have RPMs for RH7.3 there,
based on (and compatible with) the NH3.x that last appeared in RH7.1
powertools. apt'able, of course :)
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URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-0,8597650,215/
Date: 2002-10-06T02:28:05+01:00
Michael McKevitt, the founder of the Real IRA, is likely to serve less than two
more years in jail in a deal to cover up MI5's role in Ireland.
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"Clark C . Evans" said:
> Hello. I'm hosted on a FreeBSD box where I can't modify the
> local Perl installation. I downloaded and installed procmail
> in my home directory, and now I'm trying to get spamassassin to work...
>
> bash-2.05$ perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/home/cce SYSCONFDIF=/home/cce/etc
> Warning: prerequisite HTML::Parser 0 not found at (eval 1) line 219.
> Warning: prerequisite Pod::Usage 0 not found at (eval 1) line 219.
> 'SYSCONFDIF' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name.
SYSCONFDIR.
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on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:18:01PM -0700, Chad Norwood wrote:
> On 18/07/02 15:13 -0400, Steven Champeon wrote:
> )
> ) Chad, has there been any progress on this? Thanks.
>
>
> We are constantly working and improving the overall system,
> client code, server code, logic, etc. Sometimes the long term
> fix is not apparent right away with specific issues seen by
> razor-users.
>
> If a mail is reported and revoked by the same identity,
> it still might be considered spam.
Oh, OK. That doesn't make sense. :) Can someone manually remove/revoke
the message in question, then, while you work constantly to improve and
tweak the system? Thanks :)
<snip>
> ) > I immediately revoked it, using the mutt command "|" and "razor-revoke",
> ) > but it appears to still be in razor. Hashes are as follows:
> ) >
> ) > 1 part N/A e1: Zh19_7n6GRBFk6lyr8PYJcIWGJ8A
> ) > 1 part 0 e3: q_vLZZ9m-ZAD3N3e7ieSzeeYekaYF83f6G11dfcTy9kA
> ) > 1 part 0 e4: dcq2LaohnBmKsqUJW4xnOsdyk9EA, ep4: 7542-10
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URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-1,8381140,215/
Date: 2002-09-30T03:05:03+01:00
Sinn Fein president accused of setting up IRA cell to kill 'informers'.
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Date: 2002-10-08T03:30:58+01:00
*Politics: *The Conservative leadership yesterday launched itself into a frenzy
of self-reproach as it struggled to shed the image of Britain's "nasty party".
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Hi Kevin,
In the past when administering large domains, I've used the DNSTool -
http://www.gormand.com.au/tools/dnstool/guide.html
One custom change I made to this tool was to modify it so that it used a
combination of OpenSSH and sudo for remote commands, file transfers, etc.
This may, or may not be what you're after - I'm presuming that you're
considering writing a tool to do the maintenance of the domains?
Regards,
Andrew
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@linux.ie> cc:
Sent by: [email protected] Subject: [ILUG] bind + lex + yacc...
22/07/2002 15:39
i recently received this email from a friend of mine in the states:
i'm trying to figure out how to maintain about 200 domains, with a
hundred or so computers per domain. some internal, some external.
i recently learned lex and yacc and i'm thinking that's the way to go.
i don't really know perl and i know it's useful but i think i can
write c faster then perl.
is this a good idea?
ps we're really busy.
obviously as a stupid developer with no real admin experience to speak
of, i'm not qualified to answer this question. does anyone with real
admin experience have any suggestions here? the problem sounds really
hard, and i doubt anyone has had to deal with this level of complexity
so there probably aren't any existing tools written.
anyone else have any opinions or experience i could pass on?
kevin
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URL: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000226.html
Date: 2002-10-07T14:07:06-08:00
If you like to live on the bleeding edge and play with code that's not yet
ready for prime-time, good news! You can now get the MySQL 4.1 source tree. The
only real difference from the 3.23 and 4.0 trees...
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Once upon a time, Brian wrote :
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:51:56 +0200, Matthias Saou <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, this hasn't got much to do with rpm packages directly ;-)
> >
> > My "builds" page is getting bigger and bigger, and quite messy as
> > directories are listed in no particular order :
> > http://freshrpms.net/builds...
>
> Yep. Make sure there's a field in the database called (for example)
> "Updated" and when it comes time to generate the list, add "order by
> updated". This'll put it in that particular order for ya. You can
> also chose to order it by name, etc by changing this field.
>
> This should be the same for both MySql and Postgressql (any modern
> SQL, really). Which are you using?
None for that "builds" part : It's just an export of the CVS tree in which
I keep my spec files and patches! ;-)
I think the filemtime() php function that Ville uses in his sript is what
I'm looking for, then I guess I just need to fill an array with the names
and mtimes, sort it, then display what I want :-)
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On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 12:00:04PM +0100, Padraig Brady wrote:
> Yes a clever term usually (and deservedly) attributed to perl.
there's no need for perl to be write only.
> Of course you can create write-only code in any language.
> There's even a competition for obfuscated C code which is always
> worth a look: http://www.es.ioccc.org/main.html
yes, always fun. it's a good way to learn the little details of c.
> p.s. what sort of processing do you do with:
> [email protected]
that's a dated address:
% tmda-check-address [email protected]
STATUS: VALID
EXPIRES: Tue Aug 13 10:42:29 2002 UTC
which means anyone can send email to that address with no problem until
that date. after that they have to confirm. more info can be found
here: www.tmda.net.
as an aside, it is possible to filter mail to a mailman mailing list
with tmda as well. subscribers can post to the list without a confirm;
non-subscribers would need to confirm their posts.
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> made. Other than that, I bet you could do non-root. The following can
be scripted
> easily.
>
...
> 2. unpack them somewhere.
> 3. for each of them, go to the top directory of the unpacked tarball,
and do
> ../configure, then look in (I'm going by memory) TOPDIR/utils/* you
should see a spec
> file there. Do this for the 3 tarballs and you get 3 spec files.
>
The above steps can all be performed "automatically",
if the .spec files are updated to include the necessary
macros in the %prep (%setup -q) and %build stages.
This would make the building of the .rpm files less
error prone and more self-contained, and it would be
somewhat self-documenting.
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URL: http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/hyatt/#85378428
Date: Not supplied
I received some feedback in email (from several of you actually) regarding my
earlier blog about the Parents Television Council[1], which recently published
a report in which they labeled Buffy as the worst show on television for
children. Let me clarify why this organization bothers me so much.
Buffy as a show is clearly inappropriate for children under 12, and a game like
GTA3 is as well. The PTC, however, has a clear agenda that goes beyond simply
warning parents about the dangers of television shows or video games. There is
a belief on the part of the PTC that the hour from 8-9pm (the first hour of
primetime) must be designated a family hour, and that no offensive shows should
air during that time. I don't believe that it's the networks' responsibility to
restrict the kind of content aired during a particular hour of television. The
shows that air during primetime run the gamut; some are family-oriented and
some aren't. There is, however, no shortage of suitable content should parents
and children wish to watch TV together during this hour.
It should be the parent's responsibility to police a child's television
viewing. If you don't want your kids watching _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_, then
don't let them, but don't campaign to have the show removed from the air or
shoved into a late hour that would only result in its cancellation just because
you don't like its content. If you don't think a show is appropriate, don't let
your kids watch it.
The PTC also seems to find shows offensive that are family-oriented. An example
of one such show is _Malcolm in the Middle_. I would hardly call this show
inappropriate for kids. Apparently the only shows that the PTC deems
appropriate are those that have been sanitized to match their
ultra-conservative agenda. Even then, I wouldn't really mind, but the idea that
all other shows must be relegated to some later hour is just ludicrous.
[1] http://www.parentstv.org/
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Thanks for the info AJ, I found "weblog" at
http://awsd.com/scripts/weblog/index.shtml which has some click-path
reporting. It's simple, but works. Report generation takes a bit though, even
with dns resolution turned off..
Donncha.
On Monday 07 October 2002 23:35, AJ McKee wrote:
> Donncha,
>
> I've been using mod_usertrack for a good while now. I use in by default in
> every vhost that I set up. I assign a cookie name and set the expiry for
> about a year. I have to say it looks ok. A few things to note though. If a
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As far as I know, there are ide add-in cards that support hot-plugging of
drives, not too sure if this feature is availabe on the cheaper
promise/highpoint controllers, but it is definitely available on the
higher-end (true ide-raid) cards.
Cathal.
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Ciaran Johnston wrote:
> Vincent Cunniffe said:
> > I run several co-located servers, and the solution I have adopted is
> > IDE drives. They're cheap, fast, and you don't have to keep buying
> > media for them. Combine it with a removable HD caddy from Peats or
> > Maplins, and you have a complete onsite/offsite backup solution with 4
> > entire generations of data for about ¤250 (2 * 80GB/5400 drives and a
> > caddy for the server).
> >
> > You do need 60 seconds of downtime to replace the drive, but that's
> > pretty trivial if done once per month.
>
> Hmmm... this does sound interesting. I think it may be the way to go... I'd
> still be interested in hearing people's opinions on the tape drives I
> mentioned, though, esp. wrt. this solution. I know knocking a drive around
> doesn't do it any good.
>
> /Ciaran.
>
>
>
>
>
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> An illusionist has emerged after 24 hours underwater in a case in New York's
> Times Square.
I'd just like to recommend the newest Viz to ukers just for the hilarious "David
Blaine: Stalag Magician". The ego'd one is in a WWII prison camp and sort of
trying to escape. Several times he seems to have escaped and the british
officers celebrate before it's revealed he's been buried alive or hiding in a
freezer. At one point he's asked why and says "Well it's not for publicity"
Cracking stuff.
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>If you sign up for something, it's not spam by definition, aggressive as
>they may be. (I told them to stop calling me, and they stopped, so ...)
I agree. In a way, I signed up just by buying steaks from them. However, once
I tell them to stop, everything after that is spam. I told them to stop *many*
times.
It's a pity, too, since they have great steaks. Buying from them is just not
worth having to put up with all of that clinginess.
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:
> If you're using the mail client on your personal
> machine, there's no reason you would need to enter
> a passphrase, unless that is part of how you secure
> the data on your personal machine. You're private
The original comment's context was digital signatures. A digital signature
is worth sqrat if any userspace app or rogue superuser code can grab your
keyring in clear, and send out stuff in your name. A passphrase unlocking
the keyring for that particular use is a minimal protection (since not
immune to passphrase snarfers), but this is much, much better than always
leaving your key in the lock. (Why then having at all the key, in the
first place?)
> key is as secure as any other data on your machine.
> If you're working remotely, you already have to
> enter a passphrase to get to your email.
A passphrase is a (long, secure) password unlocking (decrypting) your
keyring. You don't use a passphrase to read your email. Unless it resides
on a crypto file system.
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Date: 2002-10-01T22:54:21-06:00
MusicDish: First Blood is Spilled[1]. "Back Street Boy Kevin Richardson []
testified that they have NEVER received a royalty check" So much for "we're
just trying to protect the artists", eh?
Wow. The Backstreet Boys! I mean, Janis Ian was easy to dismiss but this is a
whole 'nother ballgame. Wow.
[1] http://www.musicdish.com/mag/?id=6675
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--- Martin Adamson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> > Two demonstrators heading to Saturday's
> anti-war
> > march in San Francisco were critically
> injured
> > when their heads, sticking through the roof
> of a
> > former school bus, hit the top of the
> Broadway
> > Tunnel.
>
> Not quite so funny as they both subsequently
> died, I think.
>
Broadly, I was trying to be both vulgar and
ironic. In a "big city" as small as San Francisco
there is, as I believe I stated in the initial
post, maybe ONE PLACE in the whole that they
shoulda kept their heads inside. They were told
to, they didn't, and they got what was coming to
them. I'll feel bad about getting a sick chuckle
out of it maybe when it happens to someone I know
personally. Til then, haw haw haw. Like the
Darwin awards. Get it??
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On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 01:06, Matthias Saou wrote:
> > > Thanks a *lot* ! The RPMs seem to be fine, they worked for me out of
> > > the box (on vanilla Valhalla w/latest errata).
> >
> > ...except that I don't see an init script in the RPMs, a sample one
> > designed for RH is supposed to be in "utils/alsasound". Could you take
> > a look if it can be included?
>
> It doesn't need to as Red Hat Linux already sets correct permissions on all
> ALSA audio devices for locally logged in users (through the console.perms
> file) and the modules.conf files takes care of loading the right modules on
> demand. Also, aumix and the scripts that come with Red Hat Linux still work
> for controlling the volume, so it's still saved and restored when the
> computer is halted, even using ALSA.
Ah! The mixer stuff was what made me look for an init script in the
first place, I didn't bother to check whether the existing stuff would
have worked with that. Will try that out, you can assume silence ==
success :)
> >From what I can tell after only 2 days using it : ALSA rocks, especially
> since having a full OSS compatibility results that it breaks nothing at
> all! :-)
Agreed. Though with only 2 hours experience...
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The new ish of Strange Horizons in out, with an interview with Bloodhag, the
most metal of the all the science fiction metal bands.
Soon, the spotlight comes up again. The lead singer grabs the microphone.
"This is Frank Bellknap Long!" he yells, and, feverish, launches into a
lecture on Long's oeuvre. There can't be more than a handful of people on
this earth who could get a beer-sodden thrash crowd to listen to an English
Lit lecture. Thirty seconds later, the audience is sufficiently educated,
and the guys begin to wail. Jake the singer holds the microphone over his
head and belts out the song in a growling voice that's monster-movie low.
"No reason! No corners!" he shouts. Two minutes later, they're done with
the pulps and ready to move on to the New Wave. "Our next song is about
Harlan Ellison!" Jake bellows, and the geeks, the hipsters, the metalheads,
and the drunks let out a howl of mutual joy.
Blöödhag -- note the dual umlauts -- hails from Seattle. Describing
themselves as "edu-core," the band performs nothing but two-minute thrash
tributes to science fiction writers. Between songs, the band pelts the
audience with paperback books, quizzes them on book titles, and demands
that the audience show their library cards. Their motto: "The Faster You Go
Deaf, the More Time You Have to Read."
Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Zed[3]!_)
[1] http://www.strangehorizons.com/2002/20020930/bloodhag.shtml
[2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/kfFeZdnp8NE
[3] http://www.mememachinego.com/
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Date: 2002-09-12T04:04:00-08:00
It seems like ATTWS will offer a service that'll tell you where your friends
(or children or spouse or whatever) are ... I haven't seen it announced, but
from their "Explanation of Rates and Charges. "Find Friends service will only
locate a compatible mobile device with mMode service that (1) has granted you
permission, (2) is turned on, (3) is registered on the AT&T Wireless GSM/GPRS
network, and (4) has not activated Be Invisible. Location services only provide
the location...
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Using -lm 4 is yielding an extra 20% a day, but it gets false positives
where it shouldn't.
Such as an email with a Word doc and the signature below. After looking at
the Word doc, directions to the sender's cabin, I am convinced it marked the
body, which contains no next except the "IncrediMail advertisment"
signature, as spam.
So I have to turn off -lm 4. Razor has been getting other strange emails it
shouldn't with -lm 4 on.
See the incredimail ad signature I am talking about below:
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Date: 2002-10-05T03:05:32+01:00
*Money:* House prices have increased by as much as 38% over the past year in
some areas.
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[Guido]
> Takers? How is ESR's bogofilter packaged? SpamAssassin? The Perl
> Bayes filter advertised on slashdot?
WRT the last, it's a small pile of Windows .exe files along with
cygwin1.dll. The .exes are cmdline programs. One is a POP3 proxy. If I
currently have an email server named, say, mail.comcast.net, with user name
timmy, then I change my email reader to say that my server is 127.0.0.1, and
that my user name on that server is mail.comcast.net:timmy. In that way the
proxy picks up both the real server and user names from what the mail reader
tells it the user name is.
This is an N-way classifier (like ifile that way), and "all it does" is
insert a
X-Text-Classification: one_of_the_class_names_you_picked
header into your email before passing it on to your mail reader. The user
then presumably fiddles their mail reader to look for such headers and "do
something about it" (and even Outlook can handle *that* much <wink>).
The user is responsible for generating text files with appropriate examples
of each class of message, and for running the cmdline tools to train the
classifier.
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When I try to use apt-get upgrade
it wants to install libusb while I got it
(same version)
and all collapse because of this.
Roi
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> It seems that an email consisting of a single line containg a
> control-M is detected as spam.
>
> It also seems that an email consisting of 5 blank lines is also
> treated as spam:
Please ignore my last message. It seems that my problems results from
a homebrewn patch.
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Eugen Leitl writes:
> Apart from twiddling with the surface albedo which might be not
> enough -- we currently don't have ion drives with enough power, or at
> least we can't develop and deploy them on time,
My estimate is that, in the worst case, we have 17 years (5.4e8
seconds) to move it one earth radius, or about 6000 km (6e6 m).
a t^2/2 = x, if I remember right, so a = 2x/t^2, which is
1.2e7 m/(2.9e17 s^2), or about 4.1e-11 m/s^2, which is not a very
large acceleration, roughly equivalent to the gravitational
acceleration in these parts divided by 200000000000. Assuming a
2km-wide --- that is, 20 000 decimeter-wide --- spherical asteroid of
specific gravity 10, 4/3 pi r^3 says it would have a volume of 4e12
cubic decimeters and thus a mass of 4e13 kg. The force we'd have to
apply to achieve this acceleration would be roughly equivalent to the
weight of 200 kg here on Earth.
So, yeah, ion drives are probably a no-go, unless I screwed up the
calculations here; I think the force they typically exert is about
four orders of magnitude too small.
If we just wanted to hit today it with enough of an impulse that it
would miss us 17 years later, we'd need to accelerate it by about 1.1
cm/s. A one-ton (1000kg) mass would need to hit it at about 4e9 m/s,
or about ten times the speed of light, to achieve this, so that's not
possible. (If you could actually put enough work into a one-ton mass,
as it approached the speed of light, it would mass more, so you could
still do it with a one-ton mass; but we don't have anything
approaching that speed.) The impulse required is inversely
proportional to the remaining time to impact, so if we were to hit it
after half the time has elapsed, we'd need to accelerate it by around
2.2 cm/s instead.
The gravitational force of an Earth-sized mass could provide
sufficient deflection if that mass were about 4.5e5 times as far away
from the asteroid as we are from Earth's center, or about 2.7e9 m, or
about 0.018 times the distance from the Earth to the Sun (0.018 AU).
(And if that mass stayed so nearby for 17 years.)
The effects of continuous acceleration benefit greatly from planning
ahead, since they scale with t^2, not t --- and thus the needed
acceleration scales with 1/t^2. After half the time has elapsed, we'd
need four times as much acceleration to make it miss the Earth than if
we were to start accelerating it now.
All of these numbers are a little low, because the Earth presents a
slightly easier target than its physical size suggests, due to its
gravity well. How much easier depends on the speed of the projectile
in ways I don't understand.
They're also a little high, because they assume the force is being
applied purely at right angles to the asteroid's current path, which
is a slightly suboptimal scenario (although for velocity changes five
orders of magnitude smaller than the relative velocity, the difference
is probably insignificant.) And they assume there are no other effects on the asteroid's path.
What about electrical charges? Could we electrically charge the
asteroid and another nearby asteroid, perhaps with electron beams, to
provide the needed acceleration?
Of course, all of this calculation could be applied in the other
direction, too. If you want to sock a moon colony with a one-ton
asteroid, you could do it with a tiny amount of force applied over
twenty-five years to adjust its orbit.
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solutions, and so I'm afraid I'll have to allow non-subscriber FoRK
mail to be detained for scanning. I hope this measure can be reversed
soon when I have time to implement better measures. As has often been
noted by other posters, measures to reduce spam sent to the FoRK list
will not significantly decrease the spam load of FoRKposters, since
the vast majority of spam received by FoRKposters is sent to them
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> From: Ciaran Johnston [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 16 August 2002 15:09
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ILUG] Backup solutions
>
> Hi folks,
> I maintain a colocated server on behalf of a small group of individuals,
> and am looking at backup solutions. Is it possible to get some sort of
> low-
> end internal tape / other solution that could be used to back up approx.
> 40
> Gigs of data or am I just dreaming? My ISP does offer backups at extra
> cost
> but the only problem with that is, well, the extra cost.
>
> What I was hoping to do was to install some kind of internal tape device,
> then swap tapes round every month, so I had an onsite backup of say the
> last 24 hours and an offsite backup of the last month. Is this feasible?
> I'm beginning to think it isn't. External devices are not an option as
> part
> of the charge for colocation is rackspace.
>
> Thanks,
> Ciaran.
I'd recommend a good external DLT drive.
You will probably need a SCSI card for that too.
Mmmm.
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doesn't match your subscription address, or if you've instructed a robot
to forkpost on your behalf, it'll get held, silently, for me or Kragen
to review. Which will be rarely, so be warned.
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>>>>> "G" == Geege Schuman <[email protected]> writes:
G> you meant "SURPRISINGLY perceptive," didn't you? :-)
Of course, dear. Especially without zazen training. Veritably
Operational Thetan-like.
G> recent exceptionally vivid and strange dreams lead me to
G> believe i'm sparking synapses that have lain dormant lo these
G> many years. Lots of problem solving going on up there at
G> night.
It's a myth that we don't use parts of our brain. We use it all,
always. It's just that our culturally-induced focal-point causes most
of us to most of the time ignore and waste 99.999% of it. "Lucid" is
a measure of notch-filter bandwidth; all stations are broadcasting,
but we only /choose/ Easy Rock 105.
For example, don't look now but your shoes are full of feet.
The sensation of toes the above statement evokes is not a "turning on"
of circuits, it is a "tuning in". The next step, of course, is to
"drop out" :)
To paraphrase an old saw: Life is wasted on the living.
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> the number 1 ISP in France and the third ISP in
> Europe Wanadoo.fr is using non RFC2822 compliant
> mail servers:
Wanadoo.fr is notorious for being unresponsive to spam abuse
complaints. Some of the more militant admins have blocked them
completely.
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 06:54:28AM +0100, Anders Holm mentioned:
> let me guess, you haven't tried the boot parameter root=/dev/hda2 if you
> are using lilo??
Ah, you see - cobalt's don't use lilo. They have an openboot-like prom
that looks in an ext2 partition in /dev/hda1 for a file called
/boot/vmlinux.gz - nothing else.
The only way I think you can set parameters is with a "set_params" line.
However, when I run
set_params root=/dev/hda2
and then run:
bfd /boot/vmlinux.gz
It boots the old kernel, I assume from the prom. It seems to do this, if
something goes wrong - no error, just boots the default kernel.
BTW, 'bfd' means 'boot from disk'.
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I posted a fairly lengthy complete answer to this problem and how to
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I build a lot of rpms but I'm to stupid/busy to "apt-ize" what I have. I wish
it was apt enabled because I have several boxen and apt would help even with
rpms that I build. Did I mention forgetful too?
http://www.dudex.net/rpms
che ([email protected]) wrote*:
>
>hello!
>well in my eyes something like a public contrib repository would be nice
(where everyone can at least upload spec files) and a something like a
"repository directory" with a collection of available repositorys and their
content.
>
>i am personally on a dsl dialup connection with 16kb/s upstream cap and that
kinda sucks perhaps i am gonna still create a respository for small
windowmaker dockapps in the future :).
>
>what do you think?
>
>thanks,
>che
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There are so many good musician jokes.
A couple of my favorites:
Q. What's the difference between a viola and a violin?
A. A viola burns longer.
Q. What's the definition of a minor second?
A. Two oboes playing in unison.
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Um, you've confused RealAudio and RealNames. Bad bits.
Luis
On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 18:28, Gregory Alan Bolcer wrote:
> This comment probably goes into better late than never but:
> I wonder if their decision to open source their code had
> anything to do with it.
>
> I've read through their asset sheet, but it doesn't say anything
> about their real assets--their customers. Anyone know if they
> have any left?
>
> Greg
>
> Jim Whitehead wrote:
>
> > Via Dave's Scripting News:
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/23/25245.html
> >
> > RealNames Corp., the VC-funded wheeze that promised to short-circuit the DNS
> > system by doing an exclusive deal with Microsoft, has announced that it will
> > cease trading as of today.
> >
> > RealNames' proposition was simple, and on the face of it, a no-brainer. Type
> > a real word or phrase into your browser and it would guide you to your
> > destination, bypassing all this cumbersome domain name business. A nice
> > idea, but one based on the assumption that people are fairly stupid, and
> > couldn't figure out that Comp USA's website might be say, CompUSA.com, and
> > that even if you mistook whitehouse.gov for whitehouse.org, you'd be unhappy
> > about the serendipitous diversion.
> >
> > *snip*
> >
> > Microsoft cancelled its contract with RealNames earlier this year, and as a
> > consequence - the company has no "Plan B" - it's now toast.
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> >
> >
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>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, "Chris" == Chris Garrigues wrote:
Chris> Am I the only one for whom typing control-L to the main
Chris> window causes this error?
Getting it here too on a copy I haven't updated from CVS since
about May sometime.
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I have failed dependencies in RPM database to I am unable to use
apt-get. I requests to run 'apt-get -f install' to fix these
dependencies, however, I get these errors when running 'apt-get -f
install' :
[root@localhost root]# apt-get -f install
Processing File Dependencies... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libgcj
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libgcj
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove(replace) and 68 not
upgraded.
Need to get 2407kB of archives. After unpacking 8598kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org redhat-7.2-i386/redhat/os libgcj
2.96-27 [2407kB]
Fetched 2407kB in 22s
(105kB/s)
Executing RPM (-U)...
Preparing... ###########################################
[100%]
1:libgcj error: unpacking of archive failed on file
/usr/share/libgcj.zip;3c5b5e75: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
E: Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code (1)
[root@localhost root]#
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One of the main strands of this 'modernisation' is to have all stations on a 'retained' basis at night. Basically this means that the fire station will be unmanned and in the event of a fire, the fire-fighters will be summonsed by pagers, the same way that they currently are in a lot of rural regions. The main reason for this is that fewer fires occur at night. However, the majority of fatalities in fires do occur at night and the recent deaths during the fire-fighters' strike all occurred at night. Over half of these happened in areas currently covered by retained crews who aren't on strike and would appear to give a grim foreshadowing of what may be to come. Currently one of the conditions for being in a retained crew is that you must live/work within one mile of the station. How they will apply this to whole time fire-fighters is still unclear. A good friend of mine is a station officer in Hampshire and currently lives 20 miles from his station so how he'll respond to fire calls at night is a mystery. And I can't see many fire-fighters living within a mile of some of the inner London stations.
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hmm, I've never used gentoo
so I'll have to take your word
on that. Perhaps something
similar to that Ximian RedHat
dealy would be cool. Like
a gui installer for slackware![1]
;]
shane
[1]I'm shure Patrick V. would love
that.(not)
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From: John P. Looney [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 13 August 2002 10:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ILUG] SUSE 8 disks? (thread changed slightly)
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:55:49AM +0100, Ryan, Shane mentioned:
> It *is* a good idea though. I've been
> wondering about the same thing for a couple
> of months now but always considered it too
> complicated to carry out. (If that makes any
> sense at all).
It is to complex. Look at the mess that is gentoo. Just because you can
do something, doesn't mean you should.
Kate
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> James Rogers:
> >I don't think there is a specific word in English
> >for eye goop.
>
> "Sleep. n. .. 3. A crust of dried tears or mucus
> normally forming around the inner rim of the eye
> during sleep."
>
> But I think muta is a fine word for it.
Muta is good but if Bukkake is not eye goop, then what is?
B
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> From: Scott Lipcon <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400
>
> I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June.
> Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:
>
> syntax error in expression "int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))"
> while executing
> "expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs
> g))"
> (procedure "Ftoc_FindMsg" line 57)
> invoked from within
> "Ftoc_FindMsg $i"
> (procedure "Ftoc_ShowSequences" line 16)
> invoked from within
> "Ftoc_ShowSequences $F"
> (procedure "ScanFolder" line 81)
> invoked from within
> "ScanFolder inbox 0"
> invoked from within
> "time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay"
> (procedure "Scan_Folder" line 2)
> invoked from within
> "Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)"
> (procedure "Inc_PresortFinish" line 7)
> invoked from within
> "Inc_PresortFinish"
> invoked from within
> ".fops.flist invoke"
> ("uplevel" body line 1)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
> (procedure "tkButtonUp" line 7)
> invoked from within
> "tkButtonUp .fops.flist
> "
> (command bound to event)
>
>
> It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.
>
> Chris, is this related to your recent changes?
Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder
argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version
of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest
ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).
I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely
up to date.
Chris
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What I meant was that neither he nor anyone else has any *authority* to
say something can or can't be published, and make that stick, at least
in the US, and from some descriptions, France. Of course he can say
anything he wants. And I can choose to ignore it, or not. Works both
ways.
Fscking semantics.
Chuck
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:41 AM, Russell Turpin wrote:
> Robert Harley:
>>> BTW, I wasn't aware that the 1st Amendment mandated that crap must be
>>> FoRKed.
>
> Chuck Murcko <[email protected]>:
>> It doesn't, BTW. It says the right to free speech shall not be
>> abridged. That means *you* can't say anything may not be FoRKed or
>> printed or whatever.
>
> Actually, it means just the opposite. The first
> amendment guarantees Harley's right to say just
> that. For the outlets where he has editorial
> control, it even guarantees his right to CENSOR
> content published through those outlets. The
> first amendment doesn't limit Harley's speech,
> and it is neutral with regard to the selection
> policies of FoRK and other private venues.
>
>
>
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> Before we get too far down this road, what do people think of creating a
> spambayes package containing classifier and tokenizer? This is just to
> minimize clutter in site-packages.
Too early IMO (if you mean to leave the various other tools out of
it). If and when we package this, perhaps we should use Barry's trick
from the email package for making the package itself the toplevel dir
of the distribution (rather than requiring an extra directory level
just so the package can be a subdir of the distro).
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At 11:15 AM -0400 on 9/22/02, Geege Schuman wrote:
> Most of them seem to have Ivy League educations, or are Ivy League
> dropouts suggesting to me that they weren't exactly poor to start
> with.
Actually, if I remember correctly from discussion of the list's
composition in Forbes about five or six years ago, the *best* way to
get on the Forbes 400 is to have *no* college at all. Can you say
"Bootstraps", boys and girls? I knew you could...
[Given that an undergraduate liberal arts degree from a state school,
like, say, mine, :-), is nothing but stuff they should have taught
you in a government-run "high" school, you'll probably get more of
*those* on the Forbes 400 as well as time goes on. If we ever get
around to having a good old fashioned government-collapsing
transfer-payment depression (an economic version of this summer's
government-forest conflagration, caused by the same kind of
innumeracy that not clear-cutting enough forests did out west this
summer :-)) that should motivate more than a few erst-slackers out
there, including me, :-), to learn to actually feed themselves.]
The *next* category on the Forbes 400 list is someone with a
"terminal" professional degree, like an MBA, PhD, MD, etc., from the
best school possible.
Why? Because, as of about 1950, the *best* way to get into Harvard,
for instance, is to be *smart*, not rich. Don't take my word for it,
ask their admissions office. Look at the admissions stats over the
years for proof.
Meritocracy, American Style, was *invented* at the Ivy League after
World War II. Even Stanford got the hint, :-), and, of course,
Chicago taught them all how, right? :-). Practically *nobody* who
goes to a top-20 American institution of higher learning can actually
afford to go there these days. Unless, of course, their parents, who
couldn't afford to go there themselves, got terminal degrees in the
last 40 years or so. And their kids *still* had to get the grades,
and "biased" (by intelligence :-)), test scores, to get in.
The bizarre irony is that almost all of those people with "terminal"
degrees, until they actually *own* something and *hire* people, or
learn to *make* something for a living all day on a profit and loss
basis, persist in the practically insane belief, like life after
death, that economics is some kind of zero sum game, that dumb people
who don't work hard for it make all the money, and, if someone *is*
smart, works hard, and is rich, then they stole their wealth somehow.
BTW, none of you guys out there holding the short end of this
rhetorical stick can blame *me* for the fact that I'm using it to
beat you severely all over your collective head and shoulders. You
were, apparently, too dumb to grab the right end. *I* went to
Missouri, and *I* don't have a degree in anything actually useful,
much less a "terminal" one, which means *I*'m broker than anyone on
this list -- it's just that *you*, of all people, lots with
educations far surpassing my own, should just plain know better. The
facts speak for themselves, if you just open your eyes and *look*.
There are no epicycles, the universe does not orbit the earth, and
economics is not a zero-sum game. The cost of anything, including
ignorance and destitution, is the forgone alternative, in this case,
intelligence and effort.
[I will, however, admit to being educated *waay* past my level of
competence, and, by the way *you* discuss economics, so have you,
apparently.]
BTW, if we ever actually *had* free markets in this country,
*including* the abolition of redistributive income and death taxes,
all those smart people in the Forbes 400 would have *more* money, and
there would be *more* self-made people on that list. In addition,
most of the people who *inherited* money on the list would have
*much* less of it, not even relatively speaking. Finally, practically
all of that "new" money would have come from economic efficiency and
not "stolen" from someone else, investment bubbles or not.
That efficiency is called "progress", for those of you in The
People's Republics of Berkeley or Cambridge. It means more and better
stuff, cheaper, over time -- a terrible, petit-bourgeois concept
apparently not worthy of teaching by the educational elite, or you'd
know about it by now. In economic terms, it's also called an increase
in general welfare, and, no, Virginia, I'm not talking about
extorting money from someone who works, and giving it to someone who
doesn't in order to keep them from working and they can think of some
politician as Santa Claus come election time...
In short, then, economics is not a zero sum game, property is not
theft, the rich don't get rich off the backs of the poor, and
redistributionist labor "theory" of value happy horseshit is just
that: horseshit, happy or otherwise.
To believe otherwise, is -- quite literally, given the time Marx
wrote Capital and the Manifesto -- romantic nonsense.
Cheers,
RAH
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Is there a relatively clean way to dynamically build comp files based on
the path of the current folder?
Yeah, I know exmh will pull the first comp in the path up from the
current folder to the mail root, but that's not what I want.
I'm starting to use plus addressing heavily as part of my SPAM controls.
Specifically I each mailing list with a list-specific address.
eg I would subscribe to this list as [email protected] or perhaps
[email protected] instead of [email protected]
However to do this I need a new set of comp files for each list folder.
As I'm subscribed to something just over 600 lists, that's rather a
pain. I really don't want to go create and maintain ~1,800 comp files
(components, replcomps, replgroupcomps), especially not as I suspect
I'll be changing or adapting my naming pattern a few times as I adapt
various supporting tools.
What would be great is if I could build the relevant comp file
dynamically at runtime. That way I don't need to maintain a couple
thousand comp files, I just need to make my plus addresses
predictable/computable based (say) on the folder path.
eg I'm currently in folder:
+-Lists-/Products/Exmh-L
The script would dynamically build a compfile which had a From: of
[email protected] for repl, comp, etc.
Similarly when in folder:
+-Lists-/Linux/SVLUG-L
I'd get a From: of [email protected]
That way I can use lookup tables for those folders which have multiple
lists being delivered into them.
Any ideas how this might be done in an automatic/maintainable fashion?
It would be more than good enough if all I had to do was drop a tiny
FROM_HEADER file in each folder that somehow got picked up by the comp
file...
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:48:16 -0600
SoloCDM claiming to think:
> "Hunt, Bryan" stated the following:
> >
> > you need to do a "fdisk /mbr" from a bootable windoze floppy
> > alternatively boot from linux boot disk and do fdisk, delete all partitions.
>
> I need to ask a question concerning this issue.
>
> What if I don't want to get rid of the MBR -- it will destroy the OS
> on that drive. How do I remove lilo without the above fdisk
> procedure?
>
fdisk /mbr will restore a dos MBR.. it'll leave the partitions alone.
linux fdisk and deleting all partitions will actually leave LILO in the
MBR though.
L.
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> bad thing. Just a bad thing for those that hope a distro will
> work out of
> the box.
It's still quite easy to find out, pre-purchase, what components if
any are going to give you problems with a specific distribution/version.
With Dell just check the support.dell.com site, match the system, look for
downloadable drivers. From these if there aren't any linux drivers you can
usually find out the chipset of each device. Plug them into google with
"linux" and see what people have to say about them. Generally speaking when
you buy the system you'll be told the make/model of each device rather than
the chipset, so further investigation is necessary.
The cavaet, of course, is always to know exactly what you're buying.
In most people's cases unfortunately it's not the person who bought the
systems that will be configuring them.
steve
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:12:11 -0400, che <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > The server mentioned above works again now :)!
> > >
> > > Any problems with the rpm's they provided?
> >
> > #redhat 7.3
> > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73
> > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 73
> >
> > #redhat 7.2
> > rpm http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72
> > rpm-src http://apt.sunnmore.net gnome2 72
> >
> > thats the correct lines to be added to sources.list for the repository
> >
> > i just did a apt-get install gnome-session its still progressing :)
> >
>
> after apt-get install gnome-session
> i did another apt-get upgrade (25 more packages) and it works now... i am in gnome 2.0 wohooooo :) looks very great very "tidy" only error message i got was about a mixer applet on login (no biggie to me) even the old sawfish still works. yet its great and works cant say anythign negative yet :)
>
> just btw. if someone knows any other nice repositorys please post em :).
Does it work more than once?
Failed to fetch http://apt.sunnmore.net/gnome2/filename-here.rpm
404 Not Found
:)
Server problems? Or is this a way to limit bandwidth?
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Matthias Saou ([email protected]) wrote*:
>You're really better off backuping all placed where you know you've hand
>edited or installed some files. For me that's only /etc/, /root/ and
>/home/. Then you reinstall cleanly, formating "/", put your /home/ files
>back into place and you're ready to go.
Matthias I gotta believe you, I've been using your RPMs for some time now :) That's
the way I'll do it. A clean start but with the old configs at the ready for diff-
ing when needed. I'll find some old HD for those media files.
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hey i have a problem:
i have a rpms that i have installed that i want to uninstall, i do it
like so:
rpm -e [rpm package]
and it gives the error: package not installed, so i install it like
so:
rpm -i [rpm package]
and it gives the error: package already installed, so i force it to
install like so:
rpm -i --force [rpm package]
this installs it and then i try to uninstall it again and it still
gives me the same error: package not installed.
How can i get it to recognize that the package is indeed installed it,
and/or get it to unstall it?
Thanx in advance,
Brian French
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>>>>> "TP" == Tim Peters <[email protected]> writes:
>> First test results using tokenizer.Tokenizer.tokenize_headers()
>> unmodified. ... Second test results using
>> mboxtest.MyTokenizer.tokenize_headers(). This uses all headers
>> except Received, Data, and X-From_. ...
TP> Try the latter again, but call the base tokenize_headers() too.
Sorry. I haven't found the time to try any more test runs. Perhaps
later today.
Jeremy
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On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 08:24:47PM +0100, Aidan Kehoe wrote:
> Ar an 20ú lá de mí 7, scríobh kevin lyda :
> > actaully i think soft links were invented because you can't hard link
> > directories.
> But you could hard link directories, back when soft links were
> being invented, AFAIK.
that was before my time. all unix systems i've used didn't allow hard
links to directories, or if they did they were restricted to root.
the reason why is because you could cause infinite loops in the kernel -
usually a bad place for infinite loops.
> > apparently some systems limited soft links to the same device but
> > gave up after a while.
> Why?
to make them consistent with hard links.
> A better way of doing it would be a) have global unique filesystem
> identifiers for every FS created (such that the chance of two of them
> clashing is miniscule; 64 bits creatively used would do it, I'd say),
> and b) implement the target info for the soft link as a {FSID, inode}
> pair; the OS can work out if the thing linked to is now on a different
> mount point, or has been moved. (HFS fans, is that what's done? Or are
> aliases implemented differently?)
let's call these super-soft-links. ln -ss
% ln -ss foo bar
% ls -i foo
111 foo
% mv floyd foo
% ls -i foo
222 foo
and now bar no longer points to foo.
% ln -ss foo bar
% ls -i foo
111 foo
% rm foo
% touch floyd
% ls -i floyd
111 floyd
the fs would need to maintain a table of links going the other direction.
so when the move command unlinks foo in the first example, it could
check the table and mark that bar is now disconnected. the same would
be true for the second example - and even more important since bar points
to floyd if no table is consulted.
and this all fails to handle nfs mounted file systems or filesystems
that have dynamic inodes (the fat fs's and reiser lacks inodes i think).
kevin
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On 09 September 2002, Tim Peters said:
> > Would people be interested in the script? I'd be happy to extricate
> > it from my local modules and check it into CVS.
>
> Sure! I think it's relevant, but maybe for another purpose. Paul Svensson
> is thinking harder about real people <wink> than the rest of us, and he may
> be able to get use out of approaches that identify closely related spam.
> For example, some amount of spam is going to end up in the ham training data
> in real life use, and any sort of similarity score to a piece of known spam
> may be an aid in finding and purging it.
OTOH, look into DCC (Distributed Checksum Clearinghouse,
http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/), which uses fuzzy checksums.
It's quite likely that DCC's checksumming scheme is better than
something any of us would throw together for personal use (no offense,
Skip!). But I have no personal experience of it.
Greg
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Viral antibodies are identified in a one-month-old baby, as the US death toll
rises sharply
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*Net news:* A devastating new computer virus is causing havoc around the world
as it crashes computers, distributes confidential e-mails and steals credit
card details.
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Steve sez: "It's tragic when life imitates Wile E. Coyote cartoons. Guy
boobytraps his house to get his family if they try to break in, and seemingly
is killed himself by his own traps." Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Steve[3]!_)
[1] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=757&e=2&u=/nm/20021007/od_nm/boobytraps_dc
[2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/K9nShVkkrRxi
[3] http://www.portigal.com
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Title page has a login screen and I can't seem to get the apt indexes
anymore. Is it just me or is something going on there?
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Additive E120 - "not suitable for vegetarians".
http://www.bryngollie.freeserve.co.uk/E120.htm
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