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Not if republicans have anything to say about it | [] |
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So you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ? | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it"
] |
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They weren’t called that all that time, but yes. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?"
] |
>
So why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress? | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes."
] |
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Narrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?"
] |
>
My understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this."
] |
>
Even at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority."
] |
>
"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted." | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it."
] |
>
Honestly, the only time they may be right when they say that… | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\""
] |
>
A separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…"
] |
>
How will Republicans not make this happen? | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there."
] |
>
1) say no
2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1 | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?"
] |
>
It's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1"
] |
>
About damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation! | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation"
] |
>
This is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!"
] |
>
The main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico"
] |
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Teehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate"
] |
>
But that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the "United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians", and the "Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians". There's three different Cherokee tribes.
There may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and "the Cherokee Nation". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern "Cherokee Nation" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation"
] |
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Maybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated... | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too"
] |
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GOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.
The Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated..."
] |
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If it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier."
] |
>
I thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins."
] |
>
Treaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue."
] |
>
Treaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us.
We haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it? | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat."
] |
>
Ah yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with "well its not hurting me"
Moral depravity. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?"
] |
>
Pointing out facts isn't exactly justification. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity."
] |
>
Do they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories? | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification."
] |
>
It says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?"
] |
>
If they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat"
] |
>
Andrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat",
">\n\nIf they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it."
] |
>
This needs to happen. Our government severely fucked over native people, breaking treaty after treaty. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat",
">\n\nIf they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it.",
">\n\nAndrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal."
] |
>
Why haven't they been to the USSC? I skimmed over the article but didn't see that. | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat",
">\n\nIf they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it.",
">\n\nAndrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal.",
">\n\nThis needs to happen. Our government severely fucked over native people, breaking treaty after treaty."
] |
>
Lol yeah that ain't happening | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat",
">\n\nIf they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it.",
">\n\nAndrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal.",
">\n\nThis needs to happen. Our government severely fucked over native people, breaking treaty after treaty.",
">\n\nWhy haven't they been to the USSC? I skimmed over the article but didn't see that."
] |
> | [
"Not if republicans have anything to say about it",
">\n\nSo you think these 188 years are purely the fault of republicans ?",
">\n\nThey weren’t called that all that time, but yes.",
">\n\nSo why didn’t the democrats allow this when they controlled the house during the previous congress?",
">\n\nNarrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this.",
">\n\nMy understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority.",
">\n\nEven at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it.",
">\n\n\"It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted.\"",
">\n\nHonestly, the only time they may be right when they say that…",
">\n\nA separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit. The above link goes to the native people's comments there.",
">\n\nHow will Republicans not make this happen?",
">\n\n1) say no\n2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1",
">\n\nIt's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation",
">\n\nAbout damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation!",
">\n\nThis is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico",
">\n\nThe main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate",
">\n\nTeehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation",
">\n\nBut that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the \"United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians\", and the \"Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians\". There's three different Cherokee tribes. \nThere may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and \"the Cherokee Nation\". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern \"Cherokee Nation\" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too",
">\n\nMaybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated...",
">\n\nGOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.\nThe Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier.",
">\n\nIf it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins.",
">\n\nI thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue.",
">\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat.",
">\n\n\nTreaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. \n\nWe haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it?",
">\n\nAh yes, now let's justify doing the wrong thing with \"well its not hurting me\"\nMoral depravity.",
">\n\nPointing out facts isn't exactly justification.",
">\n\nDo they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories?",
">\n\nIt says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat",
">\n\nIf they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it.",
">\n\nAndrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal.",
">\n\nThis needs to happen. Our government severely fucked over native people, breaking treaty after treaty.",
">\n\nWhy haven't they been to the USSC? I skimmed over the article but didn't see that.",
">\n\nLol yeah that ain't happening"
] |
Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen.
In real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?
If you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such. | [] |
>
There are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is "brah got shown" or "fuck around find out". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such."
] |
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Well Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent."
] |
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Jesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around."
] |
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Well, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”
As for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes? | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs"
] |
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My point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?"
] |
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I’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds"
] |
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I agree. It’s really bad for you. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people."
] |
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It's like super bad for you | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you."
] |
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It is when they deserve it | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you"
] |
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Unless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it"
] |
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This | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage"
] |
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Ikr. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis"
] |
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Getting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr."
] |
>
A knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore."
] |
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Especially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands."
] |
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The punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not"
] |
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yes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.
Probably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.
But you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight.
But MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average "tough guy" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.
Even boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.
I personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion."
] |
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I always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting."
] |
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Play rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless."
] |
>
Sounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death."
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No. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”
What I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.” | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument"
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But permanent damage IS the funny part! | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”"
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shesssh | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!"
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It's funny only when Chris Tucker is around to comment. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!",
">\n\nshesssh"
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which one of y'all kicked me | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!",
">\n\nshesssh",
">\n\nIt's funny only when Chris Tucker is around to comment."
] |
>
I don't believe people are laughing at them getting knocked out, but they are laughing at how they git knocked or or why they did or how their body reacted to the knockout.
It's a subtle difference, and I'm being pedantic about it, but still a difference none the less. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!",
">\n\nshesssh",
">\n\nIt's funny only when Chris Tucker is around to comment.",
">\n\nwhich one of y'all kicked me"
] |
>
No, you’re definitely laughing at them getting knocked out. It is funny, especially in person. When I was a kid someone would always stand over them and do the Chris Tucker from Friday bit. | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!",
">\n\nshesssh",
">\n\nIt's funny only when Chris Tucker is around to comment.",
">\n\nwhich one of y'all kicked me",
">\n\nI don't believe people are laughing at them getting knocked out, but they are laughing at how they git knocked or or why they did or how their body reacted to the knockout. \nIt's a subtle difference, and I'm being pedantic about it, but still a difference none the less."
] |
>
No, you’re definitely laughing at them getting knocked out.
Whats funny about them getting knocked out? | [
"Don’t care in a movie. It’s as fake as everything else on screen. \nIn real life, I’m not sure what situation you’re in that this is regularly happening? Maybe find a new social circle with less fighting?\nIf you’re a professional boxer or football player, this is an occupational hazard and you’re ideally compensated as such.",
">\n\nThere are many many videos on reddit subs where a fight or punch happens irl and almost every comment is \"brah got shown\" or \"fuck around find out\". Then a slew of hive mind glee ensues. If one person says its wrong they get jumped on. Watched a video of a kid calling his teacher names and getting dragged out his seat and hauled through a door and slammed violently. A young teen and a man. Was vile. Every comment applauded the teacher. Shits abhorrent.",
">\n\nWell Reddit has a lot of pretty horrific people, check the hermain Cain award sub, worst people around.",
">\n\nJesus don't I know. Think I'll pass lol I get angry at the bs on certain subs",
">\n\nWell, as for movies, allow me to introduce you to a marvelous concept known as “special effects.”\nAs for real life, how often are you watching people get smacked upside the head for comedic purposes?",
">\n\nMy point with movies was more that it creates the misconception that people can get knocked out for a few hours and they’ll be fine when they wake up. Hence why a lot of people don’t realize how serious it can be losing consciousness for even a few seconds",
">\n\nI’m pretty sure 99% of people in real life know the dangers of being knocked out. Reddit isn’t exactly the place to get the most informed opinions from well adjusted smart people.",
">\n\nI agree. It’s really bad for you.",
">\n\nIt's like super bad for you",
">\n\nIt is when they deserve it",
">\n\nUnless they pose a serious danger to those around them, I don’t think most people deserve brain damage",
">\n\nThis",
">\n\nIkr.",
">\n\nGetting knocked to the ground is one thing, but when someone is hit so hard that it knocks them unconscious i don't find it funny, i witnessed it happen several times in my teens and 20's, and at no point was it funny, most folks think its just like a short nap, but if you actually take 5 mins to read what happens when you're knocked out, you won't find it as funny anymore.",
">\n\nA knockout in a street fight ninety five percent of the time just means they hit the vagus nerve in your jaw. I never got KO’d but I caught a standing eight-count from a quitter I just barely slipped. You don’t go to sleep, your body just stops responding to your commands.",
">\n\nEspecially when they end up having a seizure, i've seen videos of school fights ending in that and people think it's funny, it's not",
">\n\nThe punk shots are the ones that get me.....Its not like people can do anything about them and clearly they are up to 'show how badass' the guy doing punk shot is----but its a true cowards move and sick to see in my opinion.",
">\n\nyes it's a coward's move tbh. LOl, they should run it back. But reality is whenever you are sitting and arguing with someone they might swing. So you have to be ready to dodge and put your hands up to defend yourself. Because it's an awful feeling if someone hits you then runs away or hurts you while your guard is down without putting a fair fight. I seen videos of people knocked out by sucker punches and I can't imagine the impact.\nProbably makes people more aggressive and want revenge even if they can't find them. So always be ready. Never turn your back to someone yelling at you. You an walk away but when you know they are getting too close and start sounding louder you better turn around to look at them. If they swing first it's still self defense and you can put their lights out.\nBut you really need to block because not everyone has a great chin. If they're shorter keep them at arms length so you can utilize your reach and batter them on the back foot. If they're taller then be ready to leap forward, close the gap, and throw combinations. The beauty in combat sports like boxing and mma is it puts people up against each other in direct fights with clear rules. So there is no sucker punching, both men are prepared for a proper fight. \nBut MMA will prepare you most for street fights. Kickboxing can give you some good skills that can destroy regular people in fights. The average \"tough guy\" knows nothing about leg kicks. Just throw a few of those in a fight and you'll easily annihilate someone with little effort and without causing serious damage. But kickboxing doesn't teach ground game.\nEven boxing will teach you to fight in a good rhythm, with soldier defense, and timing. The average puncher will seem as a clumsy brawler to a good boxer. You can just sit back and counter. You can use different shots like jabs, hooks, bodyshots, and uppercuts to outland your opponents and quickly end the fight. Practicing clinches in matches is also important to get a sense of grappling and feints can confuse opponents during throwdowns.\nI personally have trained in kickboxing and used my kicks to mess some guys up. It isn't fool proof, as a wrestler gave me a good go. And another time I was basically sparring against a skilled boxer and wrestler; and that time I was honestly being picked apart. I've also seen wreslters destroy normal men in fights so believe me combat sports make a difference and will teach you all about fighting.",
">\n\nI always think about how quickly someone can fuck their life up from one punch. The persons throws a punch and the other hits the ground and dies, now you go to prison and someone else’s life is over. A lot of times the fight starts over something so stupid. Granted there are plenty of loud moth people who need a attitude adjustment but with the way the laws work it’s just not worth it in my opinion. I value my freedom too much and I don’t want to end up dead from a fight over something meaningless.",
">\n\nPlay rugby, box a bit, have seen a few knockouts, horrible.I think instinctively we know it's one step fragile step away from death.",
">\n\nSounds like you’re trying to get films cancelled that feature “knocking someone unconscious” in which case. Using the same old “violent games produce violent people” type argument",
">\n\nNo. If I were using the “video games” argument, I’d be saying “these movies encourage kids to knock other people out.”\nWhat I’m saying is “If your only exposure to someone getting knocked out is seeing it in a movie, you’re probably going to assume that it’s not a big deal in real life and someone won’t need medical attention if it happens to them.”",
">\n\nBut permanent damage IS the funny part!",
">\n\nshesssh",
">\n\nIt's funny only when Chris Tucker is around to comment.",
">\n\nwhich one of y'all kicked me",
">\n\nI don't believe people are laughing at them getting knocked out, but they are laughing at how they git knocked or or why they did or how their body reacted to the knockout. \nIt's a subtle difference, and I'm being pedantic about it, but still a difference none the less.",
">\n\nNo, you’re definitely laughing at them getting knocked out. It is funny, especially in person. When I was a kid someone would always stand over them and do the Chris Tucker from Friday bit."
] |
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