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Who are you to assume he doesn't given your limited mind and perspective? My faith comes from the Bible which I personally believe is the word of God.
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2009-04-28
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Who are you to personally decide what book is the word of god?
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It is my decision and mine alone so I think I'm qualified. I'm not telling you that you have to agree.
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Who are you to think you are qualified to decide for yourself?
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You're kidding right...
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2009-04-28
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oh yeah? prove it!
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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How do you determine the sincerity of the questions (or challenges as you call them)? I ask because I've asked many questions in a respectful and sincere manner and have received few if any direct answers. Let's just say the batting average is very low for honest participation. I'm starting to think believers ignore questions they don't or cannot answer.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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It's usually, I would guess, when people from atheism come over here to tell us that we're delusional. They're pretty obviously not wondering if they should embrace Christianity, like you might be. Having said that, I do the same to them, so perhaps what we need is a Christians vs. Atheist subreddit or something.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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Correct!
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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This subreddit is regularly barraged by confrontational people who apparently have a personal beef with Christianity. The majority of their challenges are generated from incomplete understanding of the issue they have trouble with, and when the community attempts to educate them, this person responds with derision, ad hominem, and tangential argumentation that reveals further ignorance of the issue. In other words, the people who need to heed this submitter's request the most are the ones least likely to abide by it. For some of them, this subreddit is apparently a target range for frustrations that may not actually have anything to do with religion. Or they suffered some traumatic experience that they either associate with religion or assume to be a universal aspect of it. So most of us probably aren't interested in debating you because we've already been worn down by your artillery.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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Welcome to Reddit! Where the majority ALWAYS wins. Get used to it or leave.
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2009-04-28
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If you're not here to let your light shine, what are you here for?
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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Do you consider this the "embracing Christianity" subreddit? FYI - http://www.reddit.com/r/TheistVsAtheist/
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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If I was to ask how a Christian determines which parts of the bible they follow literally would this come off as confrontational? If I followed this up by asking their explanation for how other Christians take other parts of the bible literally would this be an incomplete understanding? Aren't these just two honest questions trying to understand how a Christian thinks what they do?
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2009-04-28
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I consider this the "serious discussion of Christian things, and not just throwing out the latest atheist line" subreddit. Seems to me like the "How can you call everyone delusional but yourselves question" fits in that category, rather than a serious discussion of Christian stuff. And, that looks like an interesting subreddit, thanks for pointing it out.
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2009-04-28
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I would take those as honest questions. If you were to ask "How can you take the Gospel of Matthew as literally true?" Would probably come off a bit more combative to me.
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Who are you to wonder if I'm kidding?
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No, I thought that was a sincere inquiry.
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2009-04-28
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If you feel unsure about how a question will be taken, a good idea would probably be to reassure everyone that you are genuinely curious and not trying to be annoying or something.
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2009-04-28
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In the famous words of Oliver Wendall Holmes in a different context, you know it when you see it. Take for example user "DanCorb," who recently asked why [Christians can dismiss experiences of other religions as delusions, but not their own](http://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/8g6wx/christians_people_all_over_the_world_claim_to/). One look at the guy's history and you see he's a prolific anti-Christian troll. For a community that is so anti-establishment, it's funny that the Atheism subreddit is **a default subreddit** when you join. There's enough on reddit *as is* making it inhospitable for Christians - submitting thinly veiled anti-Christianity screeds to this subreddit and inquiries with no real purpose other than to start a debate about religion, challenging our faith - while that's all fine, of course, it's not what the purpose of this subreddit is. If your questions are sincere, ask them sincerely, but in return we'd ask that you actually consider our answers, and not turn around to submit a handful more mock-curious questions about Christ, our faith, etc., only so you could regurgitate something you read in some Ditchkens (Dawkins + Hitchkens) bestseller. If the 'non-believers' here had any real courage, they'd walk into a church and ask the same questions. Yet they only feel comfortable doing it in the spiritually sterile confines of the internet.
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2009-04-28
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Christians must always be ready to defend their beliefs. Even their holy book says so: "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" - 1 Peter 3:15
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2009-04-28
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This is offensive to anyone that believes in equality. Christianity is a divisive religion that preaches that I DESERVE to be tortured forever. How dare you say that I can't challenge this hateful belief. Once again this is a case of religion thinking it deserves extra respect for no good reason.
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2009-04-28
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Maybe I'm just projecting; I don't think so, but if you really think it's serious... perhaps.
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2009-04-28
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Some people seem to get a kick out of trolling the Christianity Reddit, but it's an open community, so we can't really do much. Just answer sincere questions, and vote down and ignore trolls. If you aren't sure if somebody is asking a serious question, ask. The Bible tells us to "do onto others as you would have them do unto you", so by the same token, don't go in the atheism reddit arguing with them and systematically voting down everything. Maybe if they see we can respect them, they will respect us; maybe not, but the burden is on us, the bible tells us to love sinners, not beat them over the head with how wrong they are. Neither side is going to win over people by spewing hate and disrespect. I'm just as sick of being accused of being 'delusional', having an 'imaginary friend', 'bigoted', believing in 'fairy tales' and whatnot as everyone else, but we have the spirit of God to help us endure, let's show the atheists the love that Christ showed us.
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2009-04-28
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Please link to them, I'll see if I can answer them if they are sincere questions.
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2009-04-28
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I think that's the problem: There's so much insincere stuff here, and text doesn't do a good job of communicating emotion, so you end up having to make judgment calls and you never know if you're projecting. Maybe it's sincere, maybe it's not. I don't really know what to do about it though.
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2009-04-28
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Do we have to be a Christian to subscribe? I just thought this was a place to collect all kinds of things that may be interesting to people who find Christianity interesting (for whatever reason).
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2009-04-28
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"misevw" means hate. >The Greek Lexicon BDAG says that the English translation of 'hate' has an affective component that the Greek does not have. [Bauer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bauer) and [Gingrich](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Wilbur_Gingrich) can be assumed to have an agenda. Find me an accurate translation outside of BDAG and websites defending Luke 14:26 of the word misevw or miseo.
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2009-04-28
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So if you had grown up being brainwashed by the Koran, you would be an unflinching Muslim? This means your ability to select the correct religion was not on behalf of your "free will" but selected simply by geographical birth place.
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2009-04-28
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This has been submitted to r/bestof
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2009-04-28
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LEAVE THE CHRISTIANS ALONE!!!!! JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE! ALL YOU WANT IS MORE MORE MORE! JUST LEAVE THEM ALLOOOOOOOONNNNNE!
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2009-04-28
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>One look at the guy's history and you see he's a prolific anti-Christian troll. The (pre)apostle Paul was an anti-christian troll...big time. What's your point?
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2009-04-28
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I welcome theists of all creeds to the atheism reddit. It would be very boring if everyone is agreeing with each other. As long as both sides are engaging each other and not talking past one another, then a little confrontation is healthy.
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2009-04-28
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if the religion is true, the work of god, you should have no problem defending it, against any manner of attack. silly religion that needs fear to keep the sheeple under the steeple. make people fear the afterlife, they will give you ATLEAST 10% of the pretax wage.
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2009-04-28
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I think atheists get tired of everyone agreeing with them on the atheism reddit. There, the only contentious debate is whether or not atheists should try to unconvert the religious. Some of those who believe in unconverting the religious end up here. I'm an atheist, but I think challenges should be allowed even here. If your faith is right, it shouldn't suffer for it. Of course, if a challenge grievously offends someone, it's probably a pretty unsuccessful one.
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2009-04-28
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Nooooooo. r/atheism won't be the same without the occasional Christian wandering into it. Why not embrace those terms and take them up as your own? By using those terms, delusional, imaginary friend, bigoted, and fairy tale, as proud tokens of your faith, they'll lose their stigmatization.
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You know, I actually find the opposite is true. The conflict stems from the Christian ignorance (or at the very best, incomplete understanding) of their own belief system and it's history.
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Atheists are the last group which it is publicly permissible to revile. I still feel apologetic when someone asks me about my religious beliefs and I am forced to reveal that I am probably no better to them than a Nazi.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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That there is a quid pro quo is absolutely irrelevant. The commenter wanted to know why he wasn't getting much feedback in *this* subreddit, and I gave him an explanation. >You yourself visit atheism subreddit often. Define "often." I scan it maybe once a week, when I've gone through all the other subreddits. I'm not even subscribed to it, and I post there very rarely.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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I think thats my point as well, its not ok to just post something that only appeals to like minded people with no basis in fact or corroborative evidence, even if you are in your own subreddit.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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What you posted is disgusting, and I hope you reflect on it. Christianity preaches that I am so horrible that I deserve to be tortured in the worst ways. You might as well say to a black man "if you don't like racism, don't be a racist".
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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Busted.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-28
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Really? Busted? Was it a *secret* that I read the atheism subreddit sometimes? Am I not supposed to do that? Was I claiming or even implying otherwise? Can't someone simply read my post history and find the "evidence" for themselves? Unreal. I see the angry atheists have flooded this discussion en masse, if the vote counts are any indication.
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2009-04-29
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Troll detected, aborting...
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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where's britneyismyhomeboy when you need him
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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Does this apply to the atheism subreddit as well?
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2009-04-29
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Yeah, I was downmodded [responding to this person](http://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/8g0yy/a_question_from_a_naturalist_whats_the_basis_for/c095wio). If you look at the original post I was replying to you'll see I was only trying to show him how anyone can discriminate using the same "logic." I really don't hold the anti-Christian views that I wrote. I simply (for the most part) substituted the word homosexual for Christian from his original post.
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2009-04-29
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(pre)apostle Paul didn't hide behind a screen name when he was persecuting Christians. Trolls hide.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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I was under the impression that trolling was generally considered a bad thing. I wasn't aware that needed a citation. Additionally, trolling indicates a lack of sincerity, which is the complaint. What does the (pre)apostle Paul have to do with anything? He wasn't a Christian, and I don't think his persecution of Christians is viewed as a positive.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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If you feel like answering the second followup question I'd appreciate it. Regarding the Gospel of Matthew I wouldn't make any assumptions and so my first question on it would be do you take the Gospel of Matthew as literally true?
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2009-04-29
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Please believe me, I am genuinely curious. Does that reassure you? With this in mind do you care to answer any of my questions above?
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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Oh, I knew you were. I was just offering some advice in general. As for your question - I really should be studying and not on reddit, but I'll give you a quick answer if I can. There are a lot of determinants for what I take literally: style, context, science... Ultimately, though for most of the Bible it doesn't really matter whether it happened historically that way or not. What matters is what God can teach us through the scriptures. Studying Genesis in detail had a remarkable impact on my theology, even though I don't believe any of what I studied actually happened that way. The scriptures are sort of a record of a conversation between the creator and his created.
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r/Christianity
2009-04-29
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Man, you christians need to stop whining. I use the atheist subreddit to challenge atheists all the time.
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2009-04-29
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So your answer is that you consider all atheists to be trolls and you base this on the history of some of them and that reddit seems to be anti-Christianity? Please take the following sincerely. Do you think it is fair to paint all atheists this way?
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2009-04-29
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Shoot! Christians don't get the same special treatment on reddit as they do in the rest of american society. BOO-FUCKING-HOO!
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2009-04-29
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Ok, here's one from this discussion. Particularly the follow up question. http://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/8g88u/last_i_checked_this_is_the_christianity_subreddit/c096hrk
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2009-04-29
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Let me set up a few things. Just so we're on the same page. There is a lot of talk about "literal" interpretations and "literally" true. Now when it comes to the Bible, saying something is literally true can have 2 meanings :) The one is usually by those who do not follow the Bible. Often times, they'll construe literal to mean something that nobody else means when discussing literature. The second is what is usually meant by Christians when they say they believe the Bible is literally true. And that is, according to grammatical historical methods, they take the Bible to be literally true. What does that mean? That means the psalms are a lot like poetry. You wouldn't take an English poem that says "Her cheeks were the color of a rose" to mean she was sunburnt, nor that her skin was as red as a crayon. It's expressive. The same is true with poetic literature in Scripture (Psalms, some proverbs, and other passages.) All that is to say, when I say that the Bible is literally true, I want to find out what type of literature it is I'm reading. If I'm reading a prophet, he'll probably use illustrative language. If I'm reading a letter from Paul, he's going to be more like a technical or legal document. Now, to your question: I do take the gospel of Matthew as literally true. I believe that it speaks to Jesus' lineage in the early chapters. It speaks to his work and ministry in his healings, and it speaks of his death and resurrection. All real events, that happened in space and time. Is there a reason why you picked Matthew and not any of the other gospels to ask about?
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He totally did! He went around with the screen name Saul before the admin (God) made him change it and knock off the trolling.
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2009-04-29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3zgblmCAO0
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2009-04-29
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I should clarify, by literally I mean to follow and practice what the words literally say. For example many but not all theists consider homosexuality to be a sin based on the bible. Yet I read once the actual condemnation for homosexuality isn't very large. One or two passages and many theists follow this literally. Slavery or being stoned to death for working on the Sabbath and many other parts of the bible aren't (on average) followed literally any more. Given these examples why is the former still followed literally while the latter isn't. As near as I can tell it's really personal preference as to what parts are followed literally. That's OK. I have no problem with that. Until that personal preference is imposed on others as has and still does on many issues such.
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2009-04-29
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Like http://www.reddit.com/r/TheistVsAtheist/
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2009-04-29
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I've learned that I need to find a better word then literal. It has too many meanings and I've been using it wrong anyway. The only reason I picked Matthew is that you mentioned it above.
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2009-04-29
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I must admit; I do like the new "Ditchkens" label. It may be "impolite", but it's funny as hell. [Here is context](http://www.salon.com/books/review/2009/04/28/terry_eagleton/) if anyone is interested.
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2009-04-29
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I don't think that was implied. What I think is implied is that posts like >I think he would be more likely to heal all their illnesses by slapping them with his magical spit. and the like are not welcome here.
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2009-04-29
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Not bad...not bad at all.
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2009-04-29
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I'm sorry but when a question is asked the answer is ignore/mocked/derided, pick your condescending remark. If you aren't willing to listen to what answers are given don't ask a question or jump to calling people disgusting unless you yourself wish to be called disgusting.
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2009-04-29
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This would be a good starting point: http://hermeneutics.kulikovskyonline.net/hermeneutics/hermeneutics.htm Biblical hermeneutics is the way which one should approach the Bible to understand the Bible. It's how you tell the allegorical from the factual.
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2009-04-29
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Not angry, that would be you.
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2009-04-29
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I can see frustration with some of the kinds of answers you had received. I posted a reply there that hopefully will be a good springboard to answering your question since the answer to your question is something people spend a lifetime learning. The short answer is that there are many Christians who look at the Bible in a similar way that many atheists do. As a static text created in one go where each book is looked at as a chapter with no context or consideration to factors which should be considered. Myself I'd say that is largely due to protestant groups (not all but many) and isn't representative of Christianity at large.
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2009-04-29
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Really? I've looked and I simply don't see it. If anyone posts a pro-theist posts they get downmodded fast. Comparatively when someone posts an anti-Christian post in this subreddit they often get downnmodded. Much as what appears to be your namesake is getting downmodded in the Christianity subreddit for not posting pro-atheism posts. Edit: This post is a case in point.
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2009-04-29
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So anybody who disagrees with you is an *invader*? And why do you say we are angry? In all my discussions with you, it has been you who has become angry.
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2009-04-29
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Busted. Big time.
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2009-04-29
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Are we reverting to "I am rubber and you are glue" now? That's not a great rebuttal. In the two hours since I posed those questions, not a single individual has come forward to respond to any part of it. All they can seem to do is vote it down.
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2009-04-29
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Calm down, don't try to figure out reddit 'cause reddit works in mysterious ways. *Said in ghostly voice.*
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2009-04-29
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This is a waste of time if all you can do is repeat something I have already responded to.
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2009-04-29
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People are going to make offensive/dumb/retarded comments in any thread in any subreddit. Why should this be any exception? I thought people on Reddit understood the dangers of putting religion in a special bubble where people aren't allowed to negatively discuss it (however juvenile those attacks are). This will happen, just ignore it like you do everywhere else on Reddit.
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2009-04-29
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it.
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2009-04-29
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>So anybody who disagrees with you is an invader? Where did I say that? >And why do you say we are angry? Have you been to the atheist subreddit lately? >In all my discussions with you, it has been you who has become angry. There's a difference between being angry and having strong opinions.
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2009-04-29
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So you're saying that TedHaggard is arguing "like a theist." But you voted him up, did you not? That doesn't even make sense. It's pretty illuminating to watch such cognitive dissonance in action, particularly when atheists accuse theists of it so often. You're just following a mob mentality right now. Logic has taken a back seat. It's gang-up time, and I'm the punching bag. I wonder if you have ever been punched around by a group of bullies. If so, do you remember what that was like? Do you see the irony of turning around and doing it to someone else? Further proof that man's worst enemy is human nature.
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2009-04-29
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>If the 'non-believers' here had any real courage, they'd walk into a church and ask the same questions. Are you saying we should be afraid to do so? Why? Would we get beat up? Actually as a person who was forced to go to church for an extended period of time, I for one have done exactly this... Every debate ends with goddidit or don't question mythical sky daddy. I actually get more thought out responses here. To everyone else, actually be careful walking into a church as an outed atheist and asking questions. You might actually really get beat up.
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2009-04-29
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>Further proof that man's worst enemy is human nature. Nope that would be Religion. Atheists have a lower incarceration rate than Christians.
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2009-04-29
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This isn't an easy question, so bear with me. I assume a passage is literal unless it is obviously figurative. For instance, when the bible says "Jesus told this parable", it's obviously an illustration, because it's been defined as one. When it says "to the four corners of the Earth", it's obviously a metaphor, since the Earth doesn't have corners, etc. If it's debatable, I take the one that makes more sense in the context of the message of the bible as a whole. Here's the best explanation I can find quickly: http://renaissanceguy.wordpress.com/2007/10/10/understanding-the-bible-literal-vs-figurative/. I know other Christians sometimes take other parts of the bible figuratively that I don't. Why do they do it? Again, tough question. First of all, we could be reading different versions, translations can sometimes garble the meaning and make a passage unclear. Sometimes God will make different things stand out to different people. Some parts could have two meanings, and this could even be intentional. Sometimes Satan confuses people, sometimes people are just wrong, and sometimes it's just a matter of how we see things.
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2009-04-29
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I'm not even a Christian, but the mentality of the atheists here is convincing me that, perhaps, I need to reconsider it.
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EPIC PWN3D
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2009-04-29
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Do you know much about Aztecs?
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2009-04-29
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Reconsider if you have evidence that makes you question your position. Remember, being eloquent and well written does not make you correct, whilst being ignorant, crude and abusive does not make you wrong. An attack on someone's character is ad hominen, and proves nothing.
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2009-04-29
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That is true cocksucker.
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2009-04-29
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Crying Christian is crying.
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2009-04-29
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Yeah, you wouldn't want your belief in imaginary friends *challenged* now, would you?
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2009-04-29
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Or shot and killed. Why do so many Christians forget that little Commandment?
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2009-04-29
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Crying loser cries.
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2009-04-29
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That would be the first.
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I understand that, which is why I said 'reconsider'. I don't intend to make a leap of faith to Christianity without the evidence. > Remember, being eloquent and well written does not make you correct, whilst being ignorant, crude and abusive does not make you wrong. And I wouldn't disagree. However, I am frustrated with how often the latter option is chosen. I'm sort of an agnostic, with some deistic leanings, but I find it nearly impossible to reasonably discuss the idea of a God existing with atheists. Most prefer to inform me that I'm a childish superstitious idiot for even entertaining the idea of an 'invisible skydaddy', which is something I most certainly do not believe in. Granted not all are like this, but I get very little in the way of substantive argument. This is why I find myself very sympathetic with Christians on reddit, even if I don't agree with them. > An attack on someone's character is ad hominen, and proves nothing. That is precisely why I can't stand it when this is the only type of 'argument' given. Either address the arguments, or don't say anything at all. Ad hominem attacks only make intelligent discussion impossible.
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That is a separate premise to the question you asked however.
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>Every debate ends with goddidit or don't question mythical sky daddy. In many ways you're right. But what if God really did do it? And what if if God is so glorious and infinite that we finite beings can't really understand everything he has said or done. What if we really are "looking through a glass darkly" while here on Earth? I know I'm looking forward to asking God a few questions when I get to heaven.
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What if you are wrong about the God and in fact it is Baal and you have angered him by worshipping the wrong God? >And what if if God is so glorious and infinite that we finite beings can't really understand everything he has said or done. Can't be that different, he gets angry and jealous and requires human blood sacrifices to forgive people. (He could actually forgive without someone innocent being murdered but chooses not to. In other words spiteful) >I know I'm looking forward to asking God a few questions when I get to heaven. If you are correct, I would like to ask, "Why are you the most evil?"
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>The (pre)apostle Paul was an anti-christian troll...big time. What's your point? Yes, Christians are well known for revering Saul of Tarsus. Especially when he zealously persecuted Christians and often had the put to death. It was a shame about his conversion though. Christians really lost something when Saint Saul became Paul.
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