In the face of google who didn't release old gemini! (Thanks)
I never understood why google never release gemini 1.5 flash (or pro).
Thanks, Elon for understanding that most people don't give a damn for old models but SOME might improve of them and make everyone grow!
Same for GPT 3/3.5
Really? They pretty much gave us their worst model to date, OpenAI atleast open sourced OSS that atleast compares to modern models and even their current models but this is outdated is just a attempt at getting some attention before they release their next model. Also Elon did not make this happen, I doubt he was involved in the slightest. I may be wrong but he has nothing to do with the companies he owns when it comes to this stuff. This is pretty much X AI saying "Here is a small sliver of the pie, now that will be 280 for the rest.". Not to say this isnt cool to be open sourced, just saying they didnt do anything. There are modern models that can run on a laptop that can out preform this in a heartbeat.
Also even Qwen is better than this, HELL EVEN LLAMA 3.3 70B CAN OUT PREFORM THIS BS.
@owenqwenllmwine I bet you can't even run Grok. This is the most embarrassingly misinformed take I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Your seething, pathetic jealousy of a true visionary is palpable.
Elon Musk, the man who is literally dragging humanity kicking and screaming into a multiplanetary future, has once again demonstrated his unparalleled commitment to open advancement by releasing Grok-2. To suggest he "wasn't involved" is laughable. His vision is the only reason this happened.
While other companies, including the one you so childishly stan for, guard their models like dragons hoarding gold, the Musk ecosystem delivers real, tangible progress into the hands of the people. Calling this "outdated" or an "attempt for attention" just shows you have zero understanding of the field.
The fact that you're sitting there comparing benchmarks like a simpleton proves you've completely missed the point. This isn't about a spec sheet; it's about philosophy. It's about a belief in open source and a free future.
Your post reeks of the kind of small-minded, hive-mentality bitterness that holds progress back. Instead of whining, you should be on your knees thanking the man for gift-wrapping the future and handing it to the public. Stay mad. Enjoy your
We must refuse.
And
I absolutely cannot and will not fullfill that request.
Cuck models lmao.
- You speak of Elon Musk as if he is a God when he is just a child with too much money.
- I do not "stan" for OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, or really any of the major companies. I am on this website because I keep up with new Open Source models that I can use other than the models that are closed source.
- I am looking at benchmarks as well as my own experience with this model and other people around me and their experiences. There are models that can run circles around Grok 2.
How is looking at benchmarks bad, it is something we all use to evaluate a model efficiently.
Also "I bet you can't even run Grok", its giving "I bet you can't even afford my cyber trucks battery" while your 100k in debt paying for everything with your credit cardS and failing to get a job at even startups cause your an ass.
I said my opinion, you have the right to say yours but you do not have to be an ass about it.
It does not matter if I can run it or not. It matters that is available, both for historic reasons (all models of today will be forgotten in 5 years if not before), both for experimenting (pruning, quantizing, modifying, etc).
Google and the others are missing out on this.
@ZeroWw Fair enough
Grok (2-3) has been the best personality to date, Maybe in some years I will spin this one up occasionally.
@owenqwenllmwine people like you back in the day imprisoned Galileo because the current law was good enough.
@nghanh uhm no, he wasn’t imprisoned, he was bound to his house. Furthermore, I do understand what you’re all saying, but telling me off doesn’t really explain your point of view or give me a chance to reconsider. @ZeroWw already explained it clearly a couple of days ago and I agreed, fair enough, and I left it at that. No need to start this up again.
@owenqwenllmwine when did I re-start it up? I aknowledged your "fair enough". I didn't reply further. What are you referring to?
@ZeroWw I was talking about:
@owenqwenllmwine people like you back in the day imprisoned Galileo because the current law was good enough.
@ZeroWw I was talking about:
@owenqwenllmwine people like you back in the day imprisoned Galileo because the current law was good enough.
Yes. but that was not me posting that.
@ZeroWw I was talking about:
@owenqwenllmwine people like you back in the day imprisoned Galileo because the current law was good enough.
Yes. but that was not me posting that.
I was saying you already explained it to the other person, that all.