USA/West Propaganda hugging face of huggingface

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by devops724 - opened

creator of this model think if finetune a model with lots of trash information prompted by West media , then you made a freedom model?
Stop this biased and selfish view of the world. There are more important things to do.
Just look at the original version of DeepSeek R1.
How they changed the world. Don't waste your time playing political games. Leave that to the politicians.

You are right~But people hate CCP. What can you say?

You are right~But people hate CCP. What can you say?

Heard like you are the man who lock yourselves mind. And don't use "we " , you can't represent anyone except yourself.

Are you the representative of all the people ?
Aren't the people of the world disgusted by all the cruelty, killing and crime in the world since the First and Second World Wars and the decades of wars that America and the West have created in the world?
Hasn't the slaughter that has now been carried out with the support of America in these years, slaughtering tens of thousands of children and women in the world, made you hate it?
In which world do you live?
Is there another Earth?
or are you living in a parallel world?
in a world where China has done all these things
this is annoying that a great model from china getting opensource and change world to better place, we never seen before...
But Western platforms, as always, continue to harass them with selfish, accusatory, condescending, and deceitful behavior.
when find a Chinese platform similar to huggingface i will migrate to that for sure.

Are you the representative of all the people of the world?
Who gave you this representation?
Aren't the people of the world disgusted by all the cruelty, killing and crime in the world since the First and Second World Wars and the decades of wars that America and the West have created in the world?
Hasn't the slaughter that has now been carried out with the support of America in these years, slaughtering tens of thousands of children and women in the world, made you hate it?
In which world do you live?
Is there another Earth?
or are you living in a parallel world?
in a world where China has done all these things
this is annoying that a great model from china getting opensource and change world to better place, we never seen before...
But Western platforms, as always, continue to harass them with selfish, accusatory, condescending, and deceitful behavior.
when find a Chinese platform similar to huggingface i will migrate to that for sure.

hope they won't close this discussion soon,there a dynamic standards for free speech anyways lmfao

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@devops724

How they changed the world.

deepseek has not changed the world.
They have let some air out of the AI bubble, which was about time.

Sadly, they also started making LLMs a political battlefield.

I don't think this is the right place to discuss this, but as you mentioned slaughter and killing people - the US has not killed remotely as many people as Chinese have died because of the CCP.

@devops724

How they changed the world.

deepseek has not changed the world.
They have let some air out of the AI bubble, which was about time.

Sadly, they also started making LLMs a political battlefield.

I don't think this is the right place to discuss this, but as you mentioned slaughter and killing people - the US has not killed remotely as many people as Chinese have died because of the CCP.

so, you can continue pay $200 per month until dead to OpenAI company

@devops724

How they changed the world.

deepseek has not changed the world.
They have let some air out of the AI bubble, which was about time.

Sadly, they also started making LLMs a political battlefield.

I don't think this is the right place to discuss this, but as you mentioned slaughter and killing people - the US has not killed remotely as many people as Chinese have died because of the CCP.

so, you can continue pay $200 per month until dead to OpenAI company

it's quite interesting to see more and more chinese company doing massive contrbution to LLM community and american company turn to CLOSED LMFAO
and those Chinese company llms users turn to say "political battlefield" HOW DARE YOU?
if you think you are offended by those llms just stop use it. don't let politcal shxt be in here.

@logincreeper

and those Chinese company llms users

Have a right to openly criticize pro-CCP models, correct. You might not like it, but that's life.

if you think you are offended by those llms just stop use it

Well, it's you complaining in this thread because you are offended, though.
So you can take your own advice, and just not use r1-1776. Easy as that.

@logincreeper

and those Chinese company llms users

Have a right to openly criticize pro-CCP models, correct. You might not like it, but that's life.

if you think you are offended by those llms just stop use it

Well, it's you complaining in this thread because you are offended, though.
So you can take your own advice, and just not use r1-1776. Easy as that.

When did I say I USED it when I have r1 as a choice LMFAO
And keep paying your money into "openai" companies :D
BTW stay mentally closed!

Have a right to openly criticize pro-CCP models, correct. You might not like it, but that's life.

There is another thing I must tell you, this line is too classic, I want to screenshot this paragraph and share it. Thank you for your “speech”.

@logincreeper

When did I say I USED it when I have r1 as a choice LMFAO

Got it. You're in a thread discussing a model, but you haven't actually used it.
You got all kinds of opinions on it - but you haven't used it.

I'll let that speak for itself.

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@devops724

How they changed the world.

deepseek has not changed the world.
They have let some air out of the AI bubble, which was about time.

Sadly, they also started making LLMs a political battlefield.

I don't think this is the right place to discuss this, but as you mentioned slaughter and killing people - the US has not killed remotely as many people as Chinese have died because of the CCP.

I get it now, as I came from other thread, now I see how much biased you are, constantly making political comments about China and Chinese, I guess you got a serious problem, imagine just how many Chinese devices you use now....

What you think how many people US killed is based by information what you get served from US. American know nothing about what American did in other countries at otherwise you would get ashamed of it.

Numbers of victims go down for reason of American political votes, don't generalize compatisons, clean the crap in your house first.

Remember that China is a country that doesn't have hegemonic principles like US, in fact you got nothing to say from that view point.

I guarantee you, you can hate China and Chinese but you can't ignore it. You need to stick with Chinese for long long time to come yet.

Learn a bit of Chinese, greet some Chinese people, they are not monsters, get some reality, get down to ground. It's one of oldest civilizations. Try to see what everything you got from China in your life. Appreciate it. Nvidia is still invented by Chinese, no matter how much Jensen wish to be American.

I wish we could create more friendship here. Just look how much animosity Perplexity created.

There is nothing wrong in removing censorship, there are other small Orgs and individuals on HF that do the same, but they don't target specific county and specific people. They publish uncensored and abliterated models. Where is your collection of such?

I wish I could see the same by Perplexity, it seems they are especially oriented against China only creating hateful environment here.

@JLouisBiz

Please don't twist what i wrote.
It seems to you critizing the CCP is the same as hating China and Chinese. It is not.
I have been to China, it is a beautiful country, and the Chinese people i met were great people.

You are not here to create friendships, you are here to harass people who criticize the CCP, and push their political agenda.

PS: Calling NVIDIA a chinese company is hilarious.

@devops724

How they changed the world.

deepseek has not changed the world.
They have let some air out of the AI bubble, which was about time.

Sadly, they also started making LLMs a political battlefield.

I don't think this is the right place to discuss this, but as you mentioned slaughter and killing people - the US has not killed remotely as many people as Chinese have died because of the CCP.

I get it now, as I came from other thread, now I see how much biased you are, constantly making political comments about China and Chinese, I guess you got a serious problem, imagine just how many Chinese devices you use now....

What you think how many people US killed is based by information what you get served from US. American know nothing about what American did in other countries at otherwise you would get ashamed of it.

Numbers of victims go down for reason of American political votes, don't generalize compatisons, clean the crap in your house first.

Remember that China is a country that doesn't have hegemonic principles like US, in fact you got nothing to say from that view point.

I guarantee you, you can hate China and Chinese but you can't ignore it. You need to stick with Chinese for long long time to come yet.

Learn a bit of Chinese, greet some Chinese people, they are not monsters, get some reality, get down to ground. It's one of oldest civilizations. Try to see what everything you got from China in your life. Appreciate it. Nvidia is still invented by Chinese, no matter how much Jensen wish to be American.

I wish we could create more friendship here. Just look how much animosity Perplexity created.

There is nothing wrong in removing censorship, there are other small Orgs and individuals on HF that do the same, but they don't target specific county and specific people. They publish uncensored and abliterated models. Where is your collection of such?

I wish I could see the same by Perplexity, it seems they are especially oriented against China only creating hateful environment here.

i don't get surprise if i found this model ordered by USA government, they survive by propagate war and hate

PS: Calling NVIDIA a chinese company is hilarious.

I see you got some misunderstanding. I never mentioned how "NVIDIA company is Chinese company".

I said Nvidia is invented by Chinese, and his name is Jensen Huang from Taiwan, China. Even Taiwan considers themselves China, no matter what US censored models talk about Taiwan.

And now when you mentioned it, looking better at it, is true, NVIDIA is Chinese held company in USA, just as the AMD.

I have no hate against you criticizing, but your manner, lack of style, biases, targeting single group, that all indicates you made it because of what? Some kind of propaganda, targeting other government.

I am personally very satisfied with phi-4-abliterated.Q5_K_M.gguf however, it wasn't enough abliterated. Obviously it gave wrong information about Taiwan, only in the manner how US wants it.

All I am saying, if you wish to show true intentions of freedom of expression, then produce uncensored and abliterated models just as other individuals. That way you will demonstrate you are not biased.

Finally, what kind of funny digital "war" are you making on HuggingFace with it? Look how many people don't like your work. You are exceptional.

I could also take such biased viewpoint, I don't, but I could in imaginary scenario and start making biased software targeting whatever countries political situation. What would I get with it? Probably nothing, just draw hate on me.

If you wish to change something in China, come to China and help people get some better school or hospital, whatever is necessary. Show it by your deeds, not by hate out of the flashy glowing basement.

If you provide uncensored models you would become non-partisan, you would just get a praise, this way, are you happy in what you are doing?

i don't get surprise if i found this model ordered by USA government, they survive by propagate war and hate

I don't think so. US has more style in their activities.

I am not even Chinese, I am just not getting why Western and especially US propaganda brainwashes exceptional people to become haters of China and whatever Chinese.

And they run Chinese factories in US producing NVIDIA chips. Call it Taiwanese, it means Chinese to me.

I am not even Chinese, I am just not getting why Western and especially US propaganda brainwashes exceptional people to become haters of China and whatever Chinese.

And here we go again.
No one is inciting hate for China or Chinese here.
Having a problem with models that cater to politics of the CCP is in no way hateful towards China or Chinese.

And they run Chinese factories in US producing NVIDIA chips. Call it Taiwanese, it means Chinese to me.

Only if you mean the Republic of China, though. ;)

PS: Calling NVIDIA a chinese company is hilarious.
I see you got some misunderstanding. I never mentioned how "NVIDIA company is Chinese company".

If you get misunderstood so often, maybe you have to write clearer.

Nvidia is still invented by Chinese

Maybe you did mean a Chinese, but you implied the Chinese.

I said Nvidia is invented by Chinese, and his name is Jensen Huang from Taiwan, Republic of China.

Fixed that for you.

I have no hate against you criticizing, but your manner, lack of style, biases, targeting single group, that all indicates you made it because of what? Some kind of propaganda, targeting other government.
All I am saying, if you wish to show true intentions of freedom of expression, then produce uncensored and abliterated models just as other individuals. That way you will demonstrate you are not biased.
Finally, what kind of funny digital "war" are you making on HuggingFace with it? Look how many people don't like your work. You are exceptional.

Can you give me some examples where i have been:

  • targeting single group
  • showed a lack of style or manners

The rest you write is just classic deflection, but as they say: "Every accusation is a confession".
As you are making propaganda for a government here.
And the digital "war" here... was started by the wumao. You decided to join in, though.

One final thing:

made it because of what?

Because i actually like China and the Chinese people. Not much love for the CCP, though. China deserves better.

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