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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationIE 11 is not supported. 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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-struggles-national-conversation-rcna173036

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Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationIE 11 is not supported. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser.Skip to ContentNBC News LogoTrump adminPoliticsLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticutU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & TrendsShare & Save —My NewsManage ProfileEmail PreferencesSign OutSearchSearchProfile My NewsSign Out Sign InCreate your free profileSectionsU.S. NewsDecision 2024PoliticsWorldBusinessSportsInvestigationsCulture & TrendsHealthScienceTech & MediaWeatherVideo FeaturesPhotosNBC SelectNBC Asian AmericaNBC BLKNBC LatinoNBC OUTLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticuttvTodayNightly NewsMSNBCMeet the PressDatelineFeaturedNBC News NowNightly FilmsStay TunedSpecial FeaturesNewslettersPodcastsListen NowMore From NBCCNBCNBC.COMNBCU AcademyPeacockNEXT STEPS FOR VETSNBC News Site MapHelpFollow NBC News news AlertsThere are no new alerts at this timeSearchSearchFacebookTwitterEmailSMSPrintWhatsappRedditPocketFlipboardPinterestLinkedinLatest StoriesTrump adminPoliticsU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & Trends2024 Election'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationBiden wants Harris to win at all costs, but privately, he's had to adjust to how quickly his party has moved on from him, six sources tell NBC News.Get more newsLiveonBy Carol E. Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-struggles-national-conversation-rcna173036

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationIE 11 is not supported. 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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationIE 11 is not supported. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser.Skip to ContentNBC News LogoTrump adminPoliticsLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticutU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & TrendsShare & Save —My NewsManage ProfileEmail PreferencesSign OutSearchSearchProfile My NewsSign Out Sign InCreate your free profileSectionsU.S. NewsDecision 2024PoliticsWorldBusinessSportsInvestigationsCulture & TrendsHealthScienceTech & MediaWeatherVideo FeaturesPhotosNBC SelectNBC Asian AmericaNBC BLKNBC LatinoNBC OUTLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticuttvTodayNightly NewsMSNBCMeet the PressDatelineFeaturedNBC News NowNightly FilmsStay TunedSpecial FeaturesNewslettersPodcastsListen NowMore From NBCCNBCNBC.COMNBCU AcademyPeacockNEXT STEPS FOR VETSNBC News Site MapHelpFollow NBC News news AlertsThere are no new alerts at this timeSearchSearchFacebookTwitterEmailSMSPrintWhatsappRedditPocketFlipboardPinterestLinkedinLatest StoriesTrump adminPoliticsU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & Trends2024 Election'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationBiden wants Harris to win at all costs, but privately, he's had to adjust to how quickly his party has moved on from him, six sources tell NBC News.Get more newsLiveonBy Carol E. Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversation

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Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationIE 11 is not supported. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser.Skip to ContentNBC News LogoTrump adminPoliticsLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticutU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & TrendsShare & Save —My NewsManage ProfileEmail PreferencesSign OutSearchSearchProfile My NewsSign Out Sign InCreate your free profileSectionsU.S. NewsDecision 2024PoliticsWorldBusinessSportsInvestigationsCulture & TrendsHealthScienceTech & MediaWeatherVideo FeaturesPhotosNBC SelectNBC Asian AmericaNBC BLKNBC LatinoNBC OUTLocalNew YorkLos AngelesChicagoDallas-Fort WorthPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.BostonBay AreaSouth FloridaSan DiegoConnecticuttvTodayNightly NewsMSNBCMeet the PressDatelineFeaturedNBC News NowNightly FilmsStay TunedSpecial FeaturesNewslettersPodcastsListen NowMore From NBCCNBCNBC.COMNBCU AcademyPeacockNEXT STEPS FOR VETSNBC News Site MapHelpFollow NBC News news AlertsThere are no new alerts at this timeSearchSearchFacebookTwitterEmailSMSPrintWhatsappRedditPocketFlipboardPinterestLinkedinLatest StoriesTrump adminPoliticsU.S. NewsWorldBusinessEditors' picksShoppingTiplineSportsHealthScienceCulture & Trends2024 Election'It's very complex': Biden struggles with being out of the national conversationBiden wants Harris to win at all costs, but privately, he's had to adjust to how quickly his party has moved on from him, six sources tell NBC News.Get more newsLiveonBy Carol E. Lee, Natasha Korecki, Courtney Kube and Monica AlbaWASHINGTON — President Joe Biden has privately complained to allies that his name and his accomplishments have virtually disappeared from the national conversation and about how quickly the party that he has served for more than five decades appears to have moved on from him, according to six people familiar with his comments. Biden has noted at times that Vice President Kamala Harris, who took his place at the top of the Democratic ticket in July, hasn’t been mentioning him in her campaign speeches lately, including when she talks about an economy he believes his policies set on a positive trajectory, these people said.And he was particularly stung by one of the recent notable times when she did talk about him — during this month’s debate with former President Donald Trump, three of the people familiar with his comments said.“Clearly, I am not Joe Biden,” Harris said at the time, adding: “And I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.” She made the remark in response to Trump’s contention that “she is Biden” as he tried to make the case that Harris’ and the president’s economic policies are no different.Details of Biden’s mixed feelings about the messaging of a campaign he painstakingly abandoned offer a window into how he has been settling into his extraordinary decision to step aside from seeking the Democratic nomination and endorse his vice president. His private comments also reflect a transition in Harris’ campaign while she’s staking out her own ground as a candidate and navigating a key question voters have about her candidacy: how she would differ from Biden. This account of the president's private comments is from 12 people with knowledge of the dynamic between Biden and Harris, including administration and campaign officials, as well as allies who have been involved with the transition of his campaign to his vice president. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about the inner workings of the campaign and the White House. All of them made it clear that Biden wants Harris to win in November — a development that he believes would also shape his legacy — and that he plans to do whatever he can to help her. According to a senior campaign official and another person familiar with the dynamic, the president has personally, and repeatedly, relayed that to Harris.“He always just says to her, ‘The most important thing is that you win,’” the senior campaign official said, adding that Harris and Biden had a productive lunch together last week and saying her campaign is about “looking forward.”“We have to tell people who she is and what she would do,” the campaign official said. “There wasn’t a real interest in hearing about his accomplishments when he was running. That’s still the case.” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement responding to this article, “These uninformed claims are the polar opposite of the truth.” “President Biden welcomes the strong response the American people are having to Vice President’s Harris’ leadership and to policies that move us into the future, away from dangerous agendas from the past like MAGAnomics and abortion bans,” he added.The six people with knowledge of Biden’s private comments said he gets the political reasoning behind shifting campaign messaging away from running on his record, even if it frustrates him at times.“He understands completely the general lack of mentioning ‘Bidenomics’ and ‘Joe Biden.’ Politically he gets that,” one of the people familiar with the dynamic said.A senior Biden aide said the president asks daily whether there’s anything more he could do to help Harris and that the two of them speak regularly.“He wants nothing more than to do everything we possibly can to support her,” the senior Biden said. “He’s 100% in.”When Biden stepped aside from the top of the ticket, he quickly endorsed Harris, his vice president, to take his place.Michael Reynolds / Bloomberg via Getty ImagesBut while Biden is attuned to political realities, he also has expressed a range of emotions about his exit from the race — from feeling his legacy rests on a Harris victory to anguishing over his imprint’s vanishing from the national stage, according to the people familiar with his private comments. They described a president who feels loyal to his vice president — and she to him — and less bitter than he was in the immediate aftermath of his exit from the race, when he felt pushed out by people he thought were his friends, but also at times feeling left behind.“It’s very complex,” a person familiar with his thinking said.In the month after she declared her candidacy on July 21, Harris regularly talked about Biden while campaigning — repeatedly opening her rallies by saying she brought “greetings” from the president. Those mentions have tapered off in her campaign speeches in recent weeks, though she praised Biden at a White House event last week and appeared with him Sept. 14 when they both addressed the Congressional Black Caucus’ Phoenix Awards Dinner. The two also appeared together at a Labor Day rally this month.“History will show what we here know,” Harris said at their Sept. 2 event. “Joe Biden has been one of the most transformative presidents in the United States that we have ever witnessed. And it comes from his heart.” Harris, however, didn’t mention Biden’s name once in a 40-minute campaign speech about the economy last week in Pittsburgh. And while she used to say things in her campaign speeches like “our country has come a long way since President Biden and I took office,” Harris now routinely says “we” when she talks about work the Biden-Harris administration has done.“Over the past 3½ years, we have taken major steps forward to recover from the public health and economic crisis we inherited,” she said, for instance, in her economic speech last week.By contrast, Biden — who is expected to headline events for Harris in October — and members of his administration have dramatically increased how often they mention her publicly since she became a presidential candidate.“She has to become her own person,” a Harris campaign official said. “She needs to do that to win.”While Harris led Trump on the question of which presidential candidate better represents change in a new NBC News poll this month, 40% of registered voters said they were more concerned that she would continue the same approach as Biden (compared with 39% who were more concerned that Trump would continue the same approach from his first presidential term).Harris feels genuine affection toward Biden, and their relationship has remained strong during their 3½ years in the White House together, people familiar with their relationship said. They said Biden has expressed his appreciation for her loyalty, especially through the most difficult times when he was under pressure to drop out of the presidential race and felt other leaders of the Democratic Party had turned on him.“She loves the president. She adores the president. She’s proud of the record that they have,” a person familiar with Harris’ strategy said. “But I think the difficult part for a lot of people is that this will be the Harris administration. It won’t be Biden Part Two.”Since Harris declared her candidacy, her campaign advisers have discussed how to navigate the question of whether she would be an extension of Biden’s agenda, and she has broken with him on some policies. But her and her team’s focus has been on how to win in November, and much of that is tied to explaining who Harris is, independent from Biden.Some of her advisers believe Harris needed to say “I am not Joe Biden” rather than “I am not the president,” because the latter could leave the perception that she wasn’t capable of doing the job, four people with knowledge of discussions said. “So she has to say ‘I’m not him.’ She can’t say ‘I’m not the president,’ because people will say she’s not ready to do this,” one of them said. “He gets that. It still doesn’t sting any less.”Harris repeated the line several days after the presidential debate when she was asked in a radio interview how she differs from Biden. “Well, I’m obviously not Joe Biden,” she said. “I offer a new generation of leadership.”Appearing on ABC’s “The View” last week, Biden insisted he would have defeated Trump had he remained in the race. “I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance to my running again,” Biden said. “The fact of the matter is my polling was always in range of beating this guy.”Three of the people interviewed for this article attributed any discomfort with Harris’ campaign to Biden’s former inner circle, saying they had done him a disservice by not being realistic enough about his chances of victory even in the face of stubbornly low approval numbers.Since Biden dropped out after his disastrous debate performance in June, however, polling has shifted in Harris’ favor. While the race between Harris and Trump overall remains tight, Democrats’ map has expanded since Biden’s departure, putting North Carolina in play, as well as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona. Enthusiasm has surged across the party since Harris took the reins from Biden on July 21. She’s filling venues like Biden never did across battleground states, attracting tens of thousands of new volunteers and inspiring eye-popping fundraising numbers. Allies, however, said that in the end, Biden will feel vindicated not just by the unselfishness of his decision to step aside for Harris but by what Democrats see as a four-year term rich with achievements.“I’m sure reality is hitting him,” John Morgan, a longtime Biden ally and Democratic donor, said of Biden’s watching the Democratic campaign evolve without him. “But the great reality for Joe Biden is when we sort through all of this, his four years were a masterpiece.” Carol E. LeeCarol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.Natasha KoreckiNatasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.Courtney KubeCourtney Kube is a correspondent covering national security and the military for the NBC News Investigative Unit.Monica AlbaMonica Alba is a White House correspondent for NBC News.Yamiche Alcindor, Sarah Dean and Megan Shannon contributed.AboutContactHelpCareersAd ChoicesPrivacy PolicyYour Privacy ChoicesCA NoticeTerms of Service (Updated JULY 7, 2023)NBC News SitemapClosed CaptioningAdvertiseSelect Shopping© 2025 NBCUniversal Media, LLCNBC News LogoMSNBC LogoToday Logo

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Skip NavigationThe New RepublicThe New RepublicLATESTBREAKING NEWSPOLITICSCLIMATECULTUREMAGAZINENEWSLETTERSPODCASTSGAMESThe New Republic The New RepublicThe New RepublicThe New RepublicThe New RepublicLATESTBREAKING NEWSPOLITICSCLIMATECULTUREMAGAZINENEWSLETTERSPODCASTSGAMESThe New Republic The New Republic The New RepublicBreaking News Breaking Newsfrom Washington and beyondMost Recent PostHafiz Rashid/September 30, 2024/5:38 p.m. ETShare This StoryMAGA Is Claiming “Political Violence” Over a Giant Nude Trump StatueConservatives are properly freaking out over a debut of a 43-foot-tall statue of a naked Donald Trump.RONDA CHURCHILL/AFP/Getty ImagesOn Saturday, a 43-foot-tall nude statue of Donald Trump was installed near Interstate 15 just outside of Las Vegas, immediately drawing a backlash from the former president’s supporters. The foam-and-rebar art installation, weighing about 6,000 pounds, is titled Crooked and Obscene and is expected to travel to other cities, although dates and cities for the tour have not been announced, according to The Wrap. RONDA CHURCHILL/AFP/Getty ImagesThe artists behind the “anatomically correct” statue, who want to stay anonymous, said in a statement that the former president’s nudity was “intentional, serving as a bold statement on transparency, vulnerability, and the public personas of political figures.” But Republicans, as one might expect, are livid. “While families drive through Las Vegas, they are forced to view this offensive marionette, designed intentionally for shock value rather than meaningful dialogue,” the Nevada Republican Party said in a statement, according to The Telegraph. Right-wing influencer Ian Miles Cheong posted on X that Trump, if elected president, “should jail everyone who was a part of this effigy’s creation.” Fellow right-wing conspiracy theorist Catturd (real name Phillip Buchanan) called the people behind the statue “demons,” piggybacking on yet another right-wing influencer’s post calling the art piece “POLITICAL VIOLENCE.” While these right-wing figures are freaking out, this isn’t even the first instance where a nude Trump statue has been erected. In 2016, just before the election, five small naked Trump statues went up on street corners in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Cleveland, Seattle, and New York City, only to be taken down by local authorities because the artist didn’t secure a permit. The artists behind this latest art project are pretty tight-lipped, so there’s no word on whether they secured a permit themselves. On a related note, Trump on Sunday told supporters in Wisconsin that if he wasn’t campaigning, “I could’ve been sunbathing on the beach. You have never seen a body so beautiful. Much better than Sleepy Joe.” He probably won’t like this statue, though, and definitely won’t add it to his NFT trading card collection.Share This StoryMore on conservatives losing it:Trump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyMost Recent PostEllie Quinlan Houghtaling/September 30, 2024/4:59 p.m. ETShare This StoryHypocrite MTG Now Demanding Hurricane Relief Funds She Tried to BlockMarjorie Taylor Greene is suddenly all for government spending.Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc/Getty ImagesGeorgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is begging the federal government to urgently “send the funds” to help the American Southeast recover in the wake of Hurricane Helene, even though she herself stood in the way of emergency relief funds just last week.“The storm was supposed to come directly across my district, but when it came through Georgia, it went to the east, and we mainly just got a lot of rain,” Greene told Real America’s Voice’s Terrance Bates. “When we go back to Washington, we will be working hard to make sure that states like Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina get the funding that they need.”Greene was one of 82 Republicans who voted last week against a continuing resolution to keep the government funded. If she had been successful, the government would have been in shutdown mode from Tuesday onward, preventing any region from receiving the critical assistance.“We’ve already signed a letter,” Greene told Bates. “We sent that letter to Joe Biden requesting relief that Brian Kemp, our governor, has already requested. So our entire delegation in Georgia has signed onto that letter.”“We need them to step in and send the funds and the relief that these people deserve,” she added.But Greene’s public demands ring a little hollow. During the storm, she was spotted gleefully attending a football game alongside Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, while Kemp revealed earlier Monday that President Joe Biden had called him over the weekend to assess the state’s needs. Greene also took the opportunity to take a stab at the Biden administration, even while lobbying for federal aid from the executive branch.“President Trump is a man of action,” she told the right-wing network. “We don’t need a sleepy Joe in the White House. We don’t need Kamala Harris, who they’re propping up.”Share This StoryRead about Biden’s response:Georgia’s Republican Governor Shuts Down Trump’s Hurricane ConspiracyMost Recent PostEdith Olmsted/September 30, 2024/4:58 p.m. ETShare This StoryTrump Pushes Hurricane Helene Lie Even After Republicans Debunk HimDonald Trump continues to insist that Democrats have abandoned areas affected by Hurricane Helene.Michael M. Santiago/Getty ImagesDonald Trump flailed Monday when asked to produce any evidence to support his claim that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris were purposefully withholding aid from people affected by Hurricane Helene. Trump suggested in a Truth Social post earlier Monday that he’d received “reports” from North Carolina claiming that the Biden administration and Democratic Governor Roy Cooper were “going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas” in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. The western region of North Carolina is currently experiencing severe flooding. MSNBC reporter Garrett Haake attempted to press Trump during a stop in Valdosta, Georgia, asking him what, if any, evidence he had to back up his outlandish claim.“Take a look,” Trump responded, walking away. Haake translated the flippant response to mean, “essentially, I’ve got nothing to show you right now, why don’t you go find it yourself.”So in short, Trump has absolutely no evidence, and these so-called “reports” seem even less legitimate than the debunked ones claiming that Haitian immigrants were eating their neighbors’ pets.In a second post about hurricane relief, Trump claimed that Biden and Harris had “left Americans to drown in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and elsewhere in the South.”Trump also claimed that Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, with whom he has his own uneasy alliance, had a “hard time” reaching Biden to discuss disaster relief, and that the president had been “very non-responsive.” That was also a lie. Kemp said that he’d already spoken to Biden. “The president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him, and called him right back,” Kemp said Monday. “And he just said, ‘What do you need?’”It’s taken the Republican nominee no time at all to pull focus away from disaster relief, trying instead to enrage voters in two key battleground states responding to a deadly natural disaster.Share This StoryRead about the conspiracy:Trump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyMost Recent PostPaige Oamek/September 30, 2024/4:32 p.m. ETShare This StoryGeorgia Judge Strikes Down State’s Abortion Ban in Stunning RulingA Fulton County judge has said abortions in the state must resume as they did when Roe v. Wade was still the law of the land.TIMOTHY A. CLARY/AFP/Getty ImagesA Georgia judge on Monday struck down the state’s six-week abortion ban. Fulton County Superior Judge Robert McBurney quoted “liberty” in a ruling that rejected the controversial ban outlawing abortion after six weeks, before many people know they are pregnant. Abortions in the state will now be allowed until 22 weeks, as they were before the reversal of Roe v. Wade in 2022, when Georgia Governor Brian Kemp signed into law the six-week ban. McBurney had some choice words for politicians in his ruling, writing, “It is not for a legislator, a judge, or a Commander from The Handmaid’s Tale to tell these women what to do with their bodies during this period when the fetus cannot survive outside the womb any more so than society could – or should – force them to serve as a human tissue bank or to give up a kidney for the benefit of another.” He added, “our higher courts’ interpretations of ‘liberty’ demonstrates that liberty in Georgia includes in its meaning, in its protections, and in its bundle of rights the power of a woman to control her own body, to decide what happens to it and in it, and to reject state interference with her healthcare choices.”The state law prohibited abortions after six weeks, based on the misleading notion that a “heartbeat” could be detected in an embryo around that time. In reality, an embryo does not have a heart at six weeks, let alone cardiac activity. A fetus is also not viable outside the body till much later in a pregnancy.McBurney got the chance to rule on the law after it was sent back to Fulton County court by the state Supreme Court last year. Georgia’s restrictive abortion ban killed at least two women since its passage and caused Georgia’s monthly abortion totals to drop by roughly half. This story has been updated.Share This StoryMore on Georgia:Georgia’s Republican Governor Shuts Down Trump’s Hurricane ConspiracyMost Recent PostEllie Quinlan Houghtaling/September 30, 2024/4:25 p.m. ETShare This StoryWatch: Trump Appears Not to Understand How Hurricanes WorkDonald Trump, who wants to dismantle storm prediction services, seemed caught off guard by the completely predictable Hurricane Helene.Michael M. Santiago/Getty ImagesIn just three days, Hurricane Helene gas killed at least 119 people as it trailed its way along the Southeast, making it one of the deadliest storms in modern U.S. history.The real scope of devastation is difficult to define before such an unprecedented hurricane hits land, but it’s not impossible to predict a storm’s scale, timing, and general path. Somehow, that information isn’t obvious to Donald Trump, who, after surveying some of the storm’s devastation in Georgia, told reporters Monday that “nobody” could have forecast Helene.“That’s a big one. And the devastation wrought by this storm is incredible,” Trump said during a presser in Valdosta, Georgia. “It’s so extensive, nobody thought this would be happening, especially now it’s so late in the season for the hurricanes.”Trump: Nobody thought this would be happening, especially now it’s so late in the season for hurricanes pic.twitter.com/tnLCkwKSXM— Acyn (@Acyn) September 30, 2024 It is, of course, not late in the season for hurricanes: September tends to be the most active month in the calendar year for the superstorms.But Trump’s own policy proposals are likely to keep him—and every other American—from obtaining such life-saving weather forecasts and emergency weather alerts in the future. Trump has touted elements of Project 2025, a 920-page Christian nationalist manifesto that proposes completely demolishing the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, whose responsibilities as a federal agency include tracking the weather and predicting hurricanes.“The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated, sent to other agencies, privatized, or placed under the control of states and territories,” the far-right proposal reads on page 664.That would effectively privatize weather forecasts, forcing U.S. citizens to pay for weather subscriptions that would include crucial national weather alert systems for emergencies such as flash flooding, extreme heat, earthquakes, or otherwise.Trump has spent months trying to distance his campaign from Project 2025, but a flurry of the Republican presidential nominee’s recent comments, which include supporting demolishing the Department of Education, have practically glued himself to its policy points.Share This StoryRead more about Trump’s hurricane response:Trump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyMost Recent PostHafiz Rashid/September 30, 2024/4:05 p.m. ETShare This StoryRudy Giuliani’s Daughter Backs Harris in Dire Warning on TrumpCaroline Rose Giuliani wrote a harrowing piece on how Donald Trump ruined her relationship with her dad—and how he could ruin the country next.Alex Wong/Getty ImagesRudolph Giuliani’s daughter, Caroline Rose Giuliani, endorsed Kamala Harris Monday, writing for Vanity Fair about how she has watched her father’s life “crumble since he joined forces with [Donald] Trump.” Caroline Giuliani wrote an article for the magazine warning of the dangers of another Trump presidency, saying his first term “was the worst thing that ever happened to my dad, to my family, and to our nation’s modern history.” “The consequences will only be more severe—and irreversible—a second time around. Thanks to the extremist Supreme Court he stacked, Trump would take office with full immunity: no checks on his power whatsoever,” Giuliani said. “If the president isn’t going to be subject to the law like every other citizen, which remains incomprehensible to me, then our president had better have a moral compass.”The article carries the headline “Trump Took My Dad From Me. Please Don’t Let Him Take Our Country, Too,” and Giuliani not only mentions the danger that Trump presents to the country, but also how her father’s work for the former president and convicted felon has brought him down and hurt their relationship. “I spent a lot of my life wishing my father had less power. But I never wanted it to happen like this. And selfishly, the deeper my dad gets stuck in the quicksand of his problems, the more fleeting our opportunities to connect as father and daughter become,” Giuliani said, alluding to her father’s financial and legal difficulties. “After months of feeling the type of sorrow that comes from the death of a loved one, it dawned on me that I’ve been grieving the loss of my dad to Trump. I cannot bear to lose our country to him too,” Giuliani wrote.  Giuliani also praised Harris for her understanding of the climate crisis and her support for reproductive rights, calling the vice president “a life-long public servant who has spent her career upholding justice and fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.”  Endorsing Harris is a big step for the daughter of a close confidant of Trump who also served as his lawyer. But as she wrote, Rudy Giuliani’s work for Trump has indeed imploded his life. He has been disbarred in Washington, D.C., and New York state. He’s on the verge of losing his assets thanks to a defamation lawsuit from Georgia poll workers and is facing criminal charges in Georgia and Arizona for election interference, as well as a pending sexual harassment lawsuit from one of his former assistants. Now, his daughter is openly expressing her sadness and shame over his support for Trump and where it has taken him. Will he listen to her?Share This StoryMore on Politics:Trump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyMost Recent PostPaige Oamek/September 30, 2024/3:52 p.m. ETShare This StoryGeorgia’s Republican Governor Shuts Down Trump’s Hurricane ConspiracyDonald Trump is trying to spread a new lie about Hurricane Helene—but Georgia Governor Brian Kemp isn’t playing games.Alex Wong/Getty ImagesIn the wake of Hurricane Helene’s destruction, Donald Trump is eager to spread rumors about President Joe Biden’s inaction. The problem is, at least one Republican politician on the front lines is willing to call Trump out on his lies. On Monday, Trump visited Georgia, one of the six states seriously hit by the natural disaster, and claimed that while Governor Brian Kemp was “doing a very good job,” he was “having a hard time getting the president on the phone.”“I guess they’re not being responsive, the federal government is not being responsive,” he continued. “They’re having a very hard time getting the president on the phone. He won’t get on it.” While it’s true that the federal response to the hurricane leaves much to be desired, Trump was stretching the truth when he said that Kemp hadn’t heard from Biden.Just a few hours earlier on Monday, Kemp told press that Biden called yesterday afternoon and asked the Georgia governor what further support his state needed. Biden last week also declared a state of emergency in Georgia, approving federal disaster assistance for the state.Has Trump told Gov. Kemp, who said this today?"The President just called me yesterday afternoon." "And he just said ‘hey, what do you need?’" "He offered that if there's other things we need, just to call him directly, which, I appreciate that." https://t.co/ABiE0AE0GS pic.twitter.com/Y9WcwULJes— Andrew Bates (@AndrewJBates46) September 30, 2024 As Trump tours Georgia and North Carolina, Republicans continue to slam Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris for not showing face in disaster zones. But perhaps while roads remain closed and many remain without power, it’s a better use of resources for the federal government to provide actual disaster relief, rather than divert resources for a tour bus. At least, that’s what many residents in Georgia thought about Trump’s publicity stunt Monday.Share This StoryMore on this dangerous conspiracy:Trump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyMost Recent PostEdith Olmsted/September 30, 2024/2:37 p.m. ETShare This StoryEric Adams’s Idiot Lawyer Just Undermined His Own DefenseAlex Spiro appeared to admit that the New York City mayor accepted bribes.Michael Nagle/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesNew York City Mayor Eric Adams’s lawyer is trying to get his federal bribery allegations dismissed by arguing that even if the mayor did accept gifts and favors from one Turkish official for years, it didn’t constitute bribery because it happened before Adams was elected mayor. Alex Spiro, Adams’s attorney with a long list of celebrity clients, argued in a filing Monday that the bribery charge against Adams should be dismissed. He argued that the alleged scheme did not satisfy the definition of bribery because Adams’s agreement to receive free and discounted travel and accommodations from a senior Turkish official was not quid pro quo in exchange for an official act.Rather, Spiro argued that Adams’s indictment simply alleged that he had “agreed to generally assist with the ‘operation’ or ‘regulation’ of a Turkish consulate building in Manhattan, where he had no authority whatsoever, in exchange for travel benefits.”Spiro cited the Supreme Court’s ruling in Snyder v. United States in June, which found that it is not illegal under federal anti-bribery law for state and local officials to accept gratuities for acts they have already taken. This decision, which overturned the conviction of a former Indiana mayor, substantially weakened the government’s ability to pursue federal anti-bribery complaints and challenge corruption.According to the indictment, Adams had been receiving benefits in the form of travel perks and straw-man donations long before the Turkish official allegedly tried to cash in on them. But Spiro argued that because one favor did not directly result in another, Adams’s alleged behavior does not constitute bribery, as the government accused in the indictment. During a press conference Monday, Spiro tried to downplay the allegations against Adams, while seeming to confirm that the mayor had in fact received travel perks, as alleged. “In the events in question, Mayor Adams was the Brooklyn borough president. He was not the mayor, he wasn’t even the mayor-elect, and the position of Brooklyn borough president does not have vast powers,” Spiro said. “It has, frankly, very little.”Spiro made no mention of allegations that those very same Turkish officials, who had allegedly given Adams so many freebies, had helped to illegally fund his ascendancy to a higher office. Adams, who was once lauded as the future of the Democratic Party, has been charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, federal program bribery, and to receive campaign contributions by foreign nationals. He was also charged with one count of wire fraud, two counts of solicitation of a contribution by a foreign national, and one count of bribery.Share This StoryRead more about Eric Adams:Eric Adams’s Press Conference on Charges Goes Totally Off the RailsMost Recent PostHafiz Rashid/September 30, 2024/1:32 p.m. ETShare This StoryTrump Decides Hurricane Helene Is Perfect Time to Start New ConspiracyAs people are dying, Donald Trump has begun pushing a menacing, self-serving conspiracy theory about the hurricane response.Emily Elconin/Getty ImagesHurricane Helene has devastated much of the American Southeast, and yet Donald Trump thinks it’s a good time to push a new conspiracy theory against Democrats. The former president posted a long message on Truth Social Monday that he was headed to Georgia “to pay my respects and bring lots of relief material, including fuel, equipment, water, and other things, to the State.” But he added an unproven accusation to the end of that message, claiming that he received reports of “the Federal Government, and the Democrat Governor of [North Carolina], going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas.” Trump didn’t elaborate on where these “reports” were coming from, which don’t seem to have any factual basis. Much of North Carolina votes Republican, so it would be near impossible for any relief efforts to occur that would neglect conservatives. Roy Cooper, the state’s Democratic governor since 2017, has deployed the National Guard and undertaken statewide efforts to help those affected by the hurricane, which has hit his state hardest, killing nearly 50 people and leaving hundreds of thousands of homes without power. President Biden has pledged “every available resource, as fast as possible, to your communities, to rescue, recover, and to begin rebuilding,” and even plans to visit communities affected by the hurricane later this week. On Sunday, Biden approved disaster declarations for both Florida and North Carolina, which allows immediate access to emergency funds for recovery efforts. Trump is clearly attempting to play politics with a natural disaster in a state where Kamala Harris is polling neck and neck with him. It’s a disturbing and familiar move for the former president, who, while in office, sought to withhold federal help from areas where people didn’t support him. As president, Trump deliberately downplayed the damage from wildfires in Oregon and California, and said he didn’t want “another single dollar going to [Puerto Rico],” even as the U.S. territory struggled to recover from Hurricane Maria. Perhaps he doesn’t think the public remembers how he handled those disasters and thinks projecting his old actions onto Biden, Harris, and the rest of the Democrats is a winning strategy. In any case, it does nothing to help people trying to recover from Hurricane Helene. Share This StoryMore on Hurricane Helene:MTG Dragged for Ditching Georgia as Hurricane Helene Hits the StateMost Recent PostEllie Quinlan Houghtaling/September 30, 2024/12:54 p.m. ETShare This StoryTrump Ally Forced to Make Embarrassing Admission on Health Care PlanDonald Trump has no clue what he’s doing on health care policy.Bill Clark/CQ-Roll Call, Inc/Getty ImagesAfter spending nine years on the campaign trail and four years in the Oval Office, Donald Trump still doesn’t seem to have a comprehensive health care plan for the American people—at least, that’s according to some of the Republican presidential nominee’s own allies.Speaking with Fox Business on Monday, Republican Representative Greg Murphy claimed that attacks by the Democrats on the MAGA leader’s health care plans were futile, almost entirely because Trump and his vice presidential pick, J.D. Vance, don’t actually have a “full, fleshed-out plan.”“The Harris campaign has just released this new report, it came out this morning, they’re calling it ‘The Trump-Vance Concept of Healthcare: A plan to rip away coverage from people with preexisting conditions and raise costs for millions,’” said guest host Cheryl Casone. “We’re now starting to have that conversation about health care, which is still a main issue for voters across this country. What do you make of the campaign doing this?”“Well, Kamala and her crew, it’s absolute nonsense. There’s not a full, fleshed-out plan by the president or J.D. Vance, and for them to come out with a book of fiction, they’re just a bunch of damn liars,” Murphy retorted.“We’re going to have to go through—what’s happened since Obamacare has come out, care is infinitely more access—expensive, it’s less accessible, and it’s been an absolute disaster,” he continued, calling for tighter regulation of the medical industry. “The only people who have benefited are insurance companies.”GOP Rep. Greg Murphy admits that Trump doesn't have a "fully fleshed out" healthcare plan (He's been campaigning for 9 years and was president for four of them!) pic.twitter.com/Fk2RcuXSew— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 30, 2024 Obamacare—also known as the Affordable Care Act—provided more than 20 million Americans with health care coverage. For impact reference, that’s millions more people than live in any state other than New York, Florida, Texas, or California.Share This StoryRead more about Trump’s health care plan:“Concepts of a Plan”: Trump Roasted for Having No Clue What He’s DoingView More PostsRead More: Politics, Law, Supreme Court, Constitution, Foreign Policy, Health Care, Economic Inequality, Taxes, WashingtonBREAKING NEWS POLITICS CLIMATE CULTURE MAGAZINE PODCASTS GAMESEventsTravelBookstoreDonateAdvertiseFAQPressJobsSubmissionsSubscribe to The New RepublicSign Up for Our Newsletters Terms and ConditionsPrivacy PolicyCookie SettingsCopyright 2025 © The New Republic. All rights reserved.

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