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I would like to make the point that Amoris Laetitia does NOT allow Catholics who are civilly divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion. It promotes the use of internal forum. There is a big difference there.
Do you support Pope Francis's clearly stated teachings on contraception and homosexuality in Amoris Laetitia?
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Originalism is a fraud and a farce. Scalia always maintained the pretense of being a humble lawyer but in truth was a far right judicial activist. He claimed to simply interpret the texts he was given, which conveniently always led to decisions favorable toward (and hostile to laws enacted against) modern conservative policy positions. The plain text of the constitution may say nothing about gay rights, abortion, personal ownership of firearms or corporate money as an analogue of free speech, but to originalists these central concerns of the modern conservative movement were explicitly addressed by the Founders. Gorsuch is probably to the right of Scalia. Once Trump has a few more appointments America will truly have the Supreme Court it deserves, by the corporations, for the profit and against the people.
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Not sunny in DC. And if the local said it was sunny all day it would be fallible, just like if he said that Epigenetics was not a major scientific finding on whether gays are made or born.
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Here I was thinking this was a piece about racial and religious bias in immigration policy, and then in paragraph 4 the author throws out the LGBTQ (I prefer GQ-BLT) acronym. Two paragraphs later the author claims she is a lesbian, and later she mentions that a "young person I know" is a lesbian. (Big surprise that one lesbian would know another.) Sexual preference has nothing to do with immigration policy, so it just seems as if the author is just trying to pad her victim status and make it seem even more impressive that she makes it through each day. In this world of so many victims, it's important to stand out in your victimness.
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The LGBTQ community should be po'd at Spacey right now because what he did in trying to excuse his behaviour - let's ignore the 'I was drunk one' for now - is to link being gay with pedophilia; utterly dangerous and disgraceful to reinforce historical stereotypes like these. These are the kinds of things to produce 'bathrooms laws', among the milder things these groups must deal with.
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The issues are many (and richly documented), each filled with dozens of questions, such as the one Keala asked. If you really want, I can (or fellow commenters can) create a list for any issue you choose that features Sanders/Spicer stonewalling journalists (who are your representatives; these are the people trying to get information from them for you). Just pick an issue, though, and I'll give you the first 3 questions I'd ask from a journalistic perspective. Following Keala's lead, we can start with the ban on transgender military service people ... 1. Who exactly will be affected by this policy; at what precise stage of transgender transformation will they be considered unfit for duty? Why? 2. How will this policy be implemented and to what depth? In other words, does this apply to every service person at every level of the military, including an admin assistant in some remote outpost? 3. How does this approach align with / or reject U.S. military history: https://goo.gl/7RYmfa?
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"Free to discriminate? I don't think so. If you don't want to serve the public at large, don't go into business."
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He did not - did not - discriminate against the gay guy. He did - did - discriminate against an "artistic work of edible art" he was asked to "utilize his artistic talents" to "create."
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The gay guy had the right to go in and buy anything off the shelves he wanted to buy. But does "everyone" (gay, Nazi, KKK, pro-choice, pro-life, etc) have "the right" to force any "artist" to decorate a cake, compose a song, design a web page, paint a painting, or anything else that the "artist" finds "offensive" because the "artist" is, for example, a vegan?
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The question SCOTUS may answer is "Did he discriminate against the 'customer'?" (No) But "Did he discriminate against an 'offensive work of art' that enjoys no protection class status?" (Yes)
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If his behavior and "offer of service" toward the gay couple was different than it would be toward a straight couple, he is guilty of illegal discrimination. That should be the end of this story.
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The government needs to provide funding to support writers who publish articles like this one. There are not enough articles in the Globe and Mail on finding creative ways to waste my tax money. My only objection to this article is that the writer made no mention of transgender persons of colour and their need for safe injection sites where their religious practices can be respected while I pay for their kids' swimming lessons.
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Thank you so much for this clear accurate statement!
I am so weary of those who continue to believe that the obligation of an elected official is to promote her/his own religious beliefs as an agent in a democracy which is, since its foundation, free from religious affiliation...what don't you all get about this???
The SCOTUS has declared both abortion and gay marriage to be within the constitutional rights of any US citizen....if it does not fit with your personal conscience, then don't do it! I wish my taxes did not pay for activities of our government which I consider immoral: the death penalty and war - but as long as they are legal under the US Constitution, I have to accept that as part of my participation in the democratic process.
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Fr. Martin has been way too respectful and even then he was tossed from American Magazine as publisher. The fact is that the hierarchy cannot handle the truth, even the personal truth of many of its members and priests, who have a sexual orientation much rarer than the homosexuals they seek to force into celibacy and the priesthood. Less common in society and more common in the clergy are those who settle into celibacy as natural for them, those of the Asexual orientation. The way to argue the theology of sex is not the merits, since the Church will argue scripture and tradition to resist, even as they are proof texting both badly. Instead, it is time to "out them" and demonstrate that the ancient and modern clergy of this orientation are promoting their unique sexuality and that it does not apply to the rest of us. Until the truth is revealed, we will be stuck in a morality that is not appropriate to the vast majority of us. Martin should write about that.
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I am afraid I am unfamiliar with Mr Do Bee.
As far as my comments are concerned my conscience is quite clear that none of them are homophobic. I have written nothing which can be construed as expressing hatred or fear of homosexuals. I have written nothing that can't be found in the Scriptures, the Catechism or any other teachings of the Catholic Church.
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Here are Kristin Beck's (a transgender ex Navy SEAL) own words to Trump:
""Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."
http://www.businessinsider.com/kristin-beck-trump-transgender-ban-2017-7
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If it's a personal thing (it's all about obstructing Trump....he doesn't give a rip about illegals or transgendered) he should be using his own money, not the state's. This entire subject has little to nothing to do with Hawaii.
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If you present yourself as a moral teacher and leader, but your own morals are lacking, why should you be taken seriously?
My youngest son left the Church largely because he saw how the institutional Church drove his gay uncle away. He asked, quite reasonably, how are Church that preached "love your neighbor as yourself" could treat their LGBT neighbors so unlovingly? He rejected the hypocrisy he saw.
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If you don't believe the travel ban was for safety and security, put on a yarmulke and move to Yemen or Pakistan or Iran.
Or go to a public square in any of these countries, and loudly declare that you're gay.
This will result in a teachable moment.
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Just like abortion and gay marriage, President Obama's views had to "evolve."
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Canada and the United States are different countries. I realize that should be self-evident, but it apparently needs to be stated since many pro-Trump Canadians are just itching to see the same pattern repeat itself here.
Fortunately, things are different here. Our public health care system is well established, and calls to eliminate it entirely are few and far between. The second amendment doesn't exist, which means guns and gun culture are not nearly as common. Social issues like gay marriage and abortion are largely settled, and digging them up again would be losing idea. Canada is heavily dependent upon exports, especially resource exports, so throwing up trade barriers would be a job killer for us.
The key pillars in Trump's populist platform have little or no meaning in Canada.... so if you want to sign on to the Trump train, your big complaint tends to be racial or religious bias. How about it? Nazi North, anyone?
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"While Castro had his faults" ?!?!? Are you serious? The man tortured and executed hs own people! He oppressed the gay community. He turned Cuba into a prison preventing people from leaving. You would describe these things as "faults"?
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What you might consider traditional values is probably quite different from what others might think. I'd be careful with your use of the word "traditional." Gay and transgender people have been around for as long as the human species. I'd say that makes them traditional, yes?
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My daughter had two friends kicked out onto the streets in high school when they came out to their parents. I couldn't believe it. I'll be up front: I usually vote conservative. I also support the rights gays have achieved in the last several decades. Having the schools report gay children to the parents is repugnant. Gay teens (in the U.S.) have a suicide rate 20 times that of straight kids. Kenney, think about what you are doing.
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Thank you for this article. As a woman who lives in a family where four generations have experienced sexual assault and harassment over many years, the category rape culture seems apt. Even today with better laws, the challenge of having the perpetrator suffer any punishment/rehabilitation/effective response remains. The assaults on trans and other non-conforming identities are also terrible. It is not all men who do this of course but there is no question that a culture of toxic masculinity exists. I’m a teacher and have great admiration for the young people who are struggling with this issue now. They are not afraid to name injustice. The universities and other institutions need to make their policies more effective. Indigenous women are ten times as likely to be assaulted and the taunts and racist comments happen all the time. The continue here is in the targeting and inhuman treatment that diminishes others in the interest of enhancing ones own sense of power.
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She makes me happy to be gay!
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She should sing for the gay and lesbian supporters of Trump
out of 120 million who voted do you seriously believe there were none?
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lescaine,
I've been posting here 11 years. I've never seen wildly irrational angry commenting as these months since Trump's election.
You're right that historical revisionism is a problem. I read 30 years ago what Orwell wrote about it. It's clear most revising and whitewashing of history (and ignoring the more egregious parts) is done by the right wing (e.g, imperialists, monarchists, conservatives), The right wing has always written history, including Canadian history, because the right wing has been the victors of history (e.g.,chroniclers of the British Empire and American hegemony).
The politically correct cannot change history and have no reason to revise it. But women, Jews, ethnic minorities, gays, First Nations, certainly have a right to point out examples of Canada's history that have been less than glorious.
Obviously, in light of where we want to be now (growing democracy, world peace, social equality, economic progress for all), history falls way short.
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The next president will appoint two Supreme Court nominees. Both houses of Congress are controlled by the Republican party. Gay marriage and abortion very well could be reversed, quite easily actually if conservatives control Congress and have a majority on the Supreme Court. That fact, combined with conservative views on climate change, are why I think it would be extremely extremely harmful not to have someone in office to veto.
"I’m not so sure the economy has turned around other than for the few and that the ACA is going to work." By every measure, I practice economics. GDP growth, job growth, unemployment rate, budget deficit, market capitalization.
I hope you don't have to see the effects of votes for Gary Johnson resulting in a Trump presidency.
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1. Not sure where you're going with this? I don't doubt some Christians own guns, but so what? Maybe they like target shooting? It's the usage and intent that matters.
2. Homosexuality is not a 'sin'. One's personal choice to act upon inappropriate desires however, is.
3. Voting is a civic duty; None of the Canadian parties have platforms which are both socially and fiscally conservative; hence there is always the need to compromise.
4. It comes down to bi-lateral respect. Not race, country of origin.
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I dare, no I double dare any student or even you yourself to identify the blatant logical fallacies evident in current thinking on issues surrounding the transgender issue as theyre being taught in schools today. The holes are there and they are big enough to put your head through so go on then, want to see how open our education system is to sound, logical reasoning and open, frank objective research? Try it with the transgender issue, you'll be in for a lesson in how quickly and loudly brain washed people who cant or wont think for themselves can shout down people they disagree with. Youll be lucky not to end up getting hauled before a Human Rights Tribunal but they aren't much into sound, logical reasoning there either
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You're driving me crazy. Your use of its/it's is distracting me from concentrating on your busybody interest in the intimate lives of homosexuals (mainly men, it seems).
"It's" is the contraction for "it is" or "it has."
"Its" is a possessive pronoun.
For the love of God, get it straight (so to speak).
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If the halal deli usually serves bacon sandwiches, then I'd expect them to serve anyone that stopped in and ordered one, so long as the customer ordering one wasn't a nuisance or health risk to others in the restaurant (the whole "no shirt, no shoes, no service" thing).
The couple wanted a wedding cake, which the baker does for others. He is refusing to do one simply because they are gay. That's the issue....and why your "bacon sandwich" analogy doesn't really work.
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Quite right, gewaite. The Orthodox in UK are just not overwhelmed by Anglican ecumenical overtures, especially since the Anglican Church has ordained women (bishops, no less) and allows civil unions between Anglican gay clerics, couples, including bishops. Was there recently and heard Anglicans complain about the cool politeness they get from Orthodox circles. (Ironically, the Orthodox Church, like the CC, doesn't even recognize Anglican orders, yet they complain, especially Russian Orthodox.) And Francis seems far more receptive to Anglican gay bishop/priest couples than the Orthodox since he commissioned pairs of male Anglican and Catholic bishops to work and pray together in their home countries (though, as I said, there were no pairs of women bishops, gay or straight, commissioned). Anyway, ecumenism is in the ice age as far as I can tell, even with Francis' good will gestures.
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Most media have closed comments in articles on this case, but usually only until the verdict is rendered.
Everyone will have an opinion on this. I think the verdict was just. Others will disagree. But disagreeing and still being agreeable can be difficult. But I still think people should be able to discuss it.
One always hopes for a civil discussion, but it's rare on topics like this - for the reasons articulated in the article ... like equating homosexuality with pedophilia. Some mis-informed people conflate the two ... even Judges, as late as the 1980s believed it.
Calm discussions on human sexuality vs. sexual assault are rare. The fact that this story intermingles religion and homosexuality often serves to inflame the debate. Sadly. But it will attract clicks and comments.
I cannot fathom why anyone would wait 40 years before seeking redress for any wrongdoing.
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"Mental condition".
I've met plenty of transgender folks. They are as mentally stable as any other group of people I've met.
I think the military gives recruits a battery of tests and examinations. Transgender people are already serving. If they're doing their job, why does it matter to you?
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Actually Transgenders don't identify as homosexual.
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On transgender issues and respect for gay marriages, the bishop is on the wrong side. Solidarity should be with those that the majority would despise, not the prejudices of the many. Make America Great Again is more about making it white and traditional again. It is a call to reaction and white nationalism. Again, it is not nations that are the problem but the globalization of capitalism.
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First, let's stick with the US; and second, with respect to men, let's talk about cases per capita: In 2015, 26K+ new diagnoses in men who have sexual contact with other men; 8K+ for heterosexuals who engage in behaviors with partners with AIDS or at high-risk for HIV. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/index.html
I think lesbians have a whole different set of issues from "gay" men.
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the republican party just approved a platform that his the worst attacks on LGBT people in the history of the USA ... even forces insurance companies to cover "conversion therapy." for trump, this could well mean water-boarding.
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Sorry, more than two genders, especially if you go beyond strictly physical criteria. Catch up on the science. You are right though. How transexuals are treated medically is none of your concern as long as you treat them as respectfully as everyone else. You have no cause not to because, again, this is a medical, not a moral question. Even the bathroom wars had been settled until the right wing brought it up to hide its failure to-stop gay marriage and abortion.
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To be human, "man's response to God by faith must be free, and... therefore nobody is to be forced to embrace the faith against his will. the act of faith is of its very nature a free act."39 "God calls men to serve him in spirit and in truth. Consequently they are bound to him in conscience, but not coerced. . . This fact received its fullest manifestation in Christ Jesus."40 Indeed, Christ invited people to faith and conversion, but never coerced them. "For he bore witness to the truth but refused to use force to impose it on those who spoke against it. His kingdom... grows by the love with which Christ, lifted up on the cross, draws men to himself.
I struggle with this in the catechism, if they goal is to invite people to the church and not force it, why do Catholics participate politically in abortion and gay marriage? Which in a sense, forces someone to comply.
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I disagree with you too. when these people advocate against gay marriage, against healthcare for all people, against help for the poor and elderly, against public education, agitating against equality for all Americans, they are not being moral decent people. they are evil.
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There really are more gay conservatives than you will accept to be true. Your own narrow-minded hate for conservatives means you dispose of the many gays who, just like their own parents and straight neighbours, have to worry about crushing taxes, property values, government waste of tax dollars and favouritism by publicly funded organizations that work against the real needs of all citizens. Owning a home and a business changes everything as legions of gay men have discovered. They don't march and protest. They vote. BLM alienated more gays than the conservatives ever did.
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"Would the defenders of Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop call it his First Amendment right if he refused to bake a wedding cake for an interracial couple?"
Spot on, Cheryl Kasson!
"People used religious arguments to support their opposition to interracial marriages" But the US Supreme Court shot down those arguments.
The US Supreme Court also shot down arguments by bakers and flower arrangers and wedding designers who insisted their religious and artistic freedom overrode state laws banning discrimination based on race or religion.
Religious conservatives never had a problems with civil rights laws and court rulings upholding them -- until gay people and couples began being included in state civil rights laws.
This is all about religious conservatives wanting government, through the courts, to protect their right to show superiority over gay people. Religious conservatives want to be protected from discrimination while discriminating against gay people. This is all about power.
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Jill, your piece invited an important conversation and I like that you replied. So, a bit about me. I've been 'sleeping with the enemy' a long time (I'm gay). As a few here have taken time to point out, I have come to suspect men are built for violence (we joke about testosterone poisoning), whether through genetics, cultural conditioning or both.
I don't know. It seems giving boys space to feel when they might yearn to act crazy isn't quite it. That's why I said men know their bodies (and hearts) and this must be respected. I agree we have to find a better way forward -- one that values women and men making choices, not being fixed in roles.
I think we can certainly start by agreeing sex without consent isn't right, is a violation of choice, for both women and men (remember, I'm a gay guy and really get this).
Thanks, Jill. All the best.
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Does the school or does not teach the lie that is the theory of evolution as fact? BTW, that is just one of the things. What is the way sex ed taught? Is it that abstinence until marriage is the best way to handle things? Does the school promote homosexuality? and transgenderism? What is the teaching on race relations? What about the roles of men and women? How do they teach the history of this nation? These are just some of the topics where the liberal side of things get pushed over the conservative.
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Because a homosexual orientation is supposed to not be acted upon whether or not one enters the priesthood? Since a priest sacrifices having a wife and family, how does one sacrifice something they don't desire to begin with?
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Perhaps but if so it won't be the transgendered people who have to worry. It wil be the bigots who will have to deal with God' wrath against his children.
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The comments by these doctors that there are more pediatric cases now, and somehow that's a flag that there's a problem, really frustrate me. They should be thinking outside of the box. There is a little more knowledge now in the medical community about this condition. It wasn't considered a 'cause' for children's worrisome behaviors before because the possibility of a child being transgender wouldn't enter into health professional's mind and so they would be diagnosed with something else. Access to the internet and more discussion and visibility by and about trans people has also had an effect on this as distressed individuals realize that a) they aren't alone and that b) there is a reason they feel the way they do. These doctors also disregard the fact that adults (and some are much older) who are now coming out or realizing that this has been the issue they haven't been able to understand/resolve all of their lives were once struggling children.
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Transgender costs BAD, Viagra costs GOOD!
A 2016 study by the Rand Corporation found the maximum annual medical costs for transgender services would be around $8.4 million. By comparison, the military spent $84 million on erectile dysfunction medications Viagra and Cialis in 2014, the Military Times reported.
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whoooaaa....! amazing exposition of personal social and character orientation within your comment's inference and completely oblique tangency! simply amazing! "gay"? what? "threesome"?
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You claim to care about those unaccompanied minors -- but you supported a man who boasted he would kick out the ones that were here and build a wall to keep them out, when he was president.
You claim to care about that child with Down's syndrome -- but you supported a party that has made clear their intent to cut the social safety net for the disabled and the elderly, when he was president.
You claim to reach out to all, in service for the "common good" -- but you supported a man whose campaign was based on the demonization and belittlement of blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, immigrants of all backgrounds, the disabled, veterans, women, gays.
In all sincerity, your words are blind, self-serving, and meaningless, and you hope we will forget what you did and said then.
We will not forget.
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Rather than 'threatening' marriage, the marriage of gay or trans people is an extension of the potential beauty and grace of marriage to groups of people to whom it was previously denied.
There is no confusion of the various types of love. You have mentioned agape and eros. These loves may exist (or not) in relationships of all types.
Procreation has always been optional to an extent - as evidenced by the fact that the Church has always been prepared to solemnise the marriages of those who cannot have children (and No, it does not do this in the hope of miraculous births. It does so because it accepts that other purposes of marriage are also praiseworthy).
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Exactly!
I support universal health care, the separation of church and state, immigration, multiculturalism, women's rights, gay rights AND balanced budgets.
Please, can we find a fiscally responsible Government that is also liberal minded?
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The right to be left alone is not absolute, which is why viable fetuses are protected as part of the public interest. Non-viable fetuses are not because there is no authoritative statement in national law giving them that interest. Pass it or don't pass it, but don't act as if that is not the next logical step. The findings of Roe don't change until you do. There is a police power that exists when there is no General Will, as Rouseau would have called it. Libertarians also have General Will critera on some issues, although opion is mixed on abortion. The police power of the states is restricted under the 14th Amendment because they constantly misuse it agaisnt Latinos, Gays, Blacks and Women, as well as Catholics. The tenth amendment is largely oveturned by the fourteenth, the state must prove an overriding interest to target legilsationat a class. I suspect adult consensual incest laws are void Adultery laws have mostly been overturned. Bigamy laws won't last a challenge.
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It's been interesting to see the evolution in reporting of this matter. But there's still a ways to go. Up until fairly recently, media reports consistently portrayed TWU as anti-LGBTQ and running roughshod over their human rights. Following victories by TWU in superior courts, the reporting is a little more evenhanded.
"The dispute stems from Trinity Western University’s so-called community covenant, which bans sexual intimacy outside of heterosexual marriage and which critics say discriminates against people in the LGBTQ community who are looking to enter the legal profession."
TWU's rules about sexual relations apply to everyone outside of a heterosexual marriage, regardless of their sexual orientation. More straights are affected by the rule than anyone else. However bias in the reporting still remains. This article talks of TWU's "so-called" covenant. That language strongly implies that the covenant is illegitimate, which is untrue.
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Oh my goodness!! Were talking about President Trump banning transgender in the military. Since you cannot common sense dedend your support transgender in the military you are reverting to Liberal sour grapes fake news on the Russian probe. God created each human being in their mother's womb male or female not for anyone to change their gender.
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That people disagree with you does not mean you are persecuted. It means you live in a pluralistic society. In his book, which I have read Abp. Chput makes the hysterical and perposterous claim that recognition of transgender people and issues undermines our, as Catholics, belief in the Incarnation of Christ! Much like Steve Bannon and the dominionists cited in the La Civita article, Apt. Chaput wants to go back to a Constantine-imposed Christendom. Not going to happen, nor should it.
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The terminology “intrinsically disordered” (objectively is not normally used) signifies that (a) it is inherent in the condition and (b) it is inconsistent with God’s plan, in this case man and woman and procreation.
It is not a moral judgment nor is it hateful. It is a sterile assessment of a particular orientation which makes it clear that acting on it is inconsistent with the moral law. It is also a direct translation from the Latin.
The Church has repeatedly stated that the orientation itself is not immoral and that those who persecute or deny rights to others based on orientation alone are themselves committing a serious sin.
If you can come up with a better phrase, please share it.
One of the reasons it is stated so starkly is to dispel any notion that the Church will change its teaching on LGBT sexual relations, which as you can read any day on this very blog is still hoped for by some few.
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Re: Gender identity and discrimination. Basically I agree with Thomas Morse that some religions aggravate discrimination and it is wrong to do so. However, I would raise an issue regarding the clarity of how it is determined that "you is or you aint" in any given category. As with cataloguing any trait (religious belief, interest in fishing, or even sexual identification) characteristics are seldom YES or NO. Rather, reality presents a wide continuum of incremental differences - which might even change over time for one individual.
Apparatus at birth can be misleading. Shifts in sexual orientation might possibly be genetic, hormonal, medical, or even arising from educational or philosophical changes. Perhaps there are actually lesser or greater variations of bi-sexuality which permeate all human beings, but which are currently not measured. Humans travel the world and have extensive genetic mixing - as different from the more closed populations of other animals. (continued next post)
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I am always left wondering about people who oppose same-sex marriages by proclaiming that "marriage is a sacramental union between one man and one woman"—for no one is trying to strip that union of validity. It's like saying, "a good, filling meal is spinach lasagna, a salad, and some fruit and cheese." It does not say that no other meal is good and filling. Is the aforementioned comment about marriage supposed to be persuasive or something?
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I don't expect politicians to be saints. Plenty of Catholics voted for the Kennedys and Bill Clinton whose sexual mores were no better than Trump's.
Your judgements of Trump's character are in my opinion born of a hatred of conservatism and a personal dislike of this man. Your published comments about Mr Trump are the anti-thesis of the Gospel.
Were I to have had a vote in the U.S. election I would not have been able to vote for Hillary on account of her support for abortion, same-sex 'marriage', etc, and her left-wing political views. Mr Trump's politics coincide more with mine.
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Honestly, have you researched the incident? Besides his remark about Obama and Boehner (really tone-deaf) Williams accused Pres. Obama of being a Muslim, hating cowboys, cowgirls & farming, and loving gays. Weird. And he finished with "...and we hate him!" How is that in any way appropriate commentary for MNF? It may not be 'racist' by your definition, but is certainly hate speech against the President. A comment like that directed at Trump would have you and many others here calling for reprisal, but because it targeted Obama it is okay with you.
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First, Pope Francis doesn't seem to understand that his blanket condemnations of groups of people are very unwelcoming. He cannot condemn gay people, transgendered people, and feminists for some secret plot to destroy marriages and expect them to want to be pastorally accompanied.
Second, what exactly does he think that gender theory is? Does he really think that liberals are going around encouraging children to change gender? That isn't what gender theory about; it is about getting rid of gender stereotypes.
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Thank you for this article! The GLAAD information seems outdated, however, as there have been 19 transgender victims of violence in 2017 in the U.S,
as of September 6th.
(https://www.glaad.org/blog/glaad-calls-increased-and-accurate-media-coverage-transgender-murders and https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2017).
I appreciate the Whidbey News Times for sharing my story and highlighting the LGBTQ presence in the community! Great job with the article, Patricia! (I know it's a complex subject to cover).
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Thanks for your comment, AJ. It re:enforces and deepens my concerns. Ken Blackwell (and a rabidly homophobic, Mike Pence) may soon be in a position to fuse the anti-gay policies of Ratzinger's Vatican ( not Francis'), Trump's proposed America, and Putin's Russia. From a Kremlin perspective, given that Trump is Putin's proxy in America, we can expect the on-going resonance from this Bro-manse to influence a suite of issues, both domestic and international, and bring them into alignment just as, on the nuclear, refugee, and anti-Islamic issues, others have noted here.
Geo-politically uniquely position to do so, Russia is pursuing implementing the Trans-Eurasian Infrastructure Development Project which proposes a bridge or tunnel over the Bering Straight linking Russia and the US. It will be the most massive infrastructure project ever undertaken. With China's cooperation, it will stretch from the Arctic to the Far East and underpin an equally massive trade zone. Thus the Bro-manse.
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Tony - Thank you for both comments. If you are a doctor (MD, PhD?), whatever your practice, you know that holding the opinion that GLBT folks suffer from a psychopathology puts you decidedly apart from the respectable mainstream position of the Amerian Medical Association and the American Psychology Association. You certainly have the right to hold whatever opinion you want but, again, you are a professional outlier. I am intrigued that a cleric or an actor would somehow have a special understanding of homosexuality unless you are implying that these groups are dominated by same-sex attracted individuals.
Peace to you!
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The NCAA and the International Olympic Committees medical bodies disagree with your opinion and have stated unequivocally that a trans person undergoing Hormone Replacement Therapy possesses no advantage over other athletes provided their blood serum levels stay within legal limits just like every other athlete. Heres a link to a page that lists dozens of athletic governing bodies medical policies on trans athletes made up of actual doctors that all say the same.
http://www.transathlete.com/#!policies-by-organization/c1vyj
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There is no modern liberalism. Neo-liberals like the Clintons took their place and for them its all about the donations from the capitalists. As for liberty, that is libertarianism, not liberalism. The whole FDA is in the way meme is over. Obama fixed that problem to the extent he could without hurting patient safety.
Conservative justices found privacy and extended it to contraception, abortion (Brennan was an Ike appointee), sodomy and gay marriage (Kennedy was a Reagan appointee). They could have used the partial birth abortion case to ban abortion, as Scalia insisted (and which was the real plan for passing the bill) except that Kennedy, Roberts (Bush) and Alito (Bush) would not. Libertarians all.
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Frank..think you are right....in the US and Western world..
We have lost so many young folks....think the synod might be focused on why the Church no longer speaks to youth of today...in the west
There will be the usual stuff about youth too secular etc....but if these questions were seriously and very honestly and scientifically posed using contemporary social science techniques....I suspect we might find that today's youth are plenty spiritual but are turned off what they see as the sins of the church.....everything from the abuse issues, to the gay treatment,to misogyny to very insufficient inclusion of highly disparate folks...
I have 4 college level grandkids and they have been raised in very socially conscious families.....they are all selecting career paths that will help others....and my guess is that they will all marry some day and make wise choices.but a church that treats women and gays poorly....(they value both groups) doesn't provide a lot of religious attraction....
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Here's an example of something you wrote earlier:-
"...... when Cardinal Burke told parents to reject their gay children, he was not "beige" a homophobe. That was just the first lie "in" have seen from you."
Perhaps you could explain what it means.
'Real' Catholics know that the Church's authority to teach comes from God.
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Trans people should be ineligible for the military.
My ADD should make me ineligible too. That's not a criticism of ADD – I think it makes me a better mathematician – but it would be a disaster in combat.
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Prove it with DNA? Do you have to prove that heterosexuality is part of our evolution? No, because it's so obvious in nature. Homosexuality in complex social groups makes perfect genetic sense and is observed in many vertebrate species. Science is not on your side.
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Maybe I missed that part of the Bible, but where in the New Testament does it discuss homosexuality?
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I don't like discrimination in any form, but I do see a problem in this case. If the farmer had discriminated against customers buying apples at the Farmer's market, yes, barr him from participation. To me, hosting weddings on his property is a different and much more personal arena than a Farmer's market in town. If he's that uncomfortable with same sex weddings and feels hosting such a ceremony puts his soul in jeopardy, he should be able to say no. However, he should then be prepared to see his business suffer as people vote with their dollars about his homophobia and discrimination against same sex couples. If you feel that strongly about an issue you should be willing to suffer for it, shouldn't you? He displayed this homophobia on his private property, not in the public arena in town at the Farmer's market. I also understand the city of East Lansing wanting to distance themselves from the homophobia of Tennes by barring him from the market.
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You have to admit, a POW being denied hormones would be their biggest fear.
And it is hard to imagine many of the non-state players these days are not likely to ensure a supply
Does the Geneva convention ( not that a lot of these groups adhere) require drug supplies, as well as recognizing trans troops?
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Do you notice when you quote Social Conservatives they accuse you of Hate Speech, even when you point out you're just repeating their very own words back to them?
We now live in a world where one can live in an information bubble, hearing and seeing only things that confirm our bias. Tabatha Southey pinpricks that bubble.
The collection of hopefuls running for the Tory leadership is rather sad. Kenney is very uncomfortable with O'Leary, but that just reveals the new Conservative Party is a restricted club where certain things are only to be said behind closed doors.
But O'Leary and Trump have done us a favour. The social conservatives are emboldened and say in public things which we suspected but could never pin down.
Trost and Kenney are funded by some powerful people. These are people who are against homosexuals, against abortion, against indigenous land claims, and against science, specifically Darwinism and climatology.
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wow. finally i found someone who believed that Trump was a LGBT rights "supporter".
DPEB: please list all the other things Trump promised that you guys actually believed.
That should be funny.
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How casually we are reduced to name-calling lately. And how amazing that it is deemed acceptable.
Not everyone who has a moral disagreement with homosexuality is a homophobe, kag. Some people can actually disagree with certain activities and choices people make and not be phobic about it. It may be a good idea to refrain from blatant labeling - it only diminishes all of us...but particularly the one doing the name-calling.
Now. The contract to provide the cake was not accepted - no agreement was broken. No deposit was made, no money exchanged, . Are you now saying that all job offers must be accepted?
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Just to clarify one point: the trans individual is most often NOT in conflict with themselves about their gender identification, It is with the social and environmental features of their lives that present the conflict for them. It is remarkable that in all of the sexual variations, very, very few experience an inner conflict that lasts for very long, if at all. The outer conflicts, however, is the long-term damaging situation that results in all of the psychological symptoms (i.e., depression) and syndromes (internalized homophobia, etc.). The so-called "conflicted with his/her sexual identity" are the easier things to treat. The external conflicts (even by the Church itself) are the uphill battle each LGBT person must fight to maintain a sense of integrity and balance. It is there, at that point, that the Church and its ministers should be ready to "accompany."
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I have no problem with uniformed police walking in the Pride Parade. I think it is amazing that police forces across the country are showing solidarity with the LGBTQ community- Especially given the tumultuous past each has had. These special interest fringe groups should leave our Pride Parade alone. They are more than free to hold their own rallies and marches if they wish, but they should respect the right of others to have their events as they see fit.
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As far as putting out a real platform is concerned Andrew Scheer right now is an empty suit unless you call opposition to same sex marriage and abortion something to campaign on.
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Regarding: "The campaign is a response to an advisory sent to priests by Fr. James Bartylla, diocesan vicar general, that discouraged Catholic funerals for those in same-sex marriages and relationships. "
- If a mentally ill person steals, then we say that while stealing is a sin, the theft by an ill person, while not right, is no sin.
- It follows then that if homosexuals who are disordered (church's teaching) then the acts that come from the disorder, while viewed by others as not a good, are also not a sin.
- If follows then that presuming a disordered person has sin is a sin itself.
- That is, while a local church might advise against a lot of funeralizing fan-fare, they can not refuse a funeral mass for gays or lesbians because the church suspects any sex that they had was sinful.
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Just another instance of hillbillies finally coming to the realization that the world has changed. Either that or LGBTs have only succeeded in crossing the line in the sand. It takes more than a boycott, it takes a spine. So far they've been lucky. Tomorrow may be different. Nobody likes to lose.
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It’s tough, but I honestly think that, generally speaking, if a parent “only knew” because a teacher told them their kid was as gay, they weren’t paying attention and weren’t doing a great job as a parent. There are always exceptions to be sure, but I expect that this is a fair comment more often then it is incorrect. Yes this may sound harsh to some, but I think it is accurate.
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I've known people like Pope Francis before. They are well meaning and can be effective leaders. However, when it comes to consistent theology, that isn't their strong suit. I'm not saying that he's right or wrong in his pronouncement regarding gays and their acceptance in seminaries, it's just that I suspect that we're going to be arguing theology back and forth during his period as Pope when it's a secondary issue to him.
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"Depending on where a trans is in their conversion, their mind can't possibly be entirely on their job." One would expect discipline & training to kick in, and that soldiers going through particularly difficult points in their transition would be assigned duties appropriate to their situation.
You might make the same remark about soldiers going through divorce, or loss of a family member, or for that matter, allergy season.
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<i>have lived the life of denial and repression as the Church expects them to, and the resulting depression, addictions, and suicidal thinking</i>
The big mistake here is that you assume that the 'repression' caused the depression, suicidality, and addictions. In fact, it is more plauible to conclude that male homosexuality is one part of a syndrome that includes these other conditions. (This is not to imply there is a single entity of 'male homosexuality', any more than there is one entity of depression or one entity of schizophrenia. We lump things together because of surface similarities, even when the pathogenesis differs markedly.)
<i>highly rigid and disturbed candidates</i> I presume you mean people whose opinions and beliefs you disagree with? Why not just say so?
The church would do well to lose 50% (or more) of its current priests and retain those who actually live and preach a life of virtue in the increasingly decadent world which the secular West has become.
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I am surprised at her limiting it to just 50%. Most on the left make the blanket statement that all republicans/conservatives are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic and any other ist or phobic they can find to use. Oh, and fascist also. Absolutely none of these are anywhere near accurate or true but they have never let that stop them since at least the 60's. This election cycle is rampant with these kinds of characterizations of republicans/conservatives and that may be why independents are favoring Trump by fairly large margins.
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I think you were there, but perhaps you are more rational about things like that and not so uptight...No I don't because the Boy Scouts never barred Gay kids, they had a moral code loosely based on Biblical Standards, if there were a heterosexual kid having sex with his girlfriend they would most likely have the same stance, but I cannot speak for every troop. She is attacking a Red Herring issue, which is controlled by an imperfect group of people, and an even more disorganized "corporate structure and philosophy. Jeannette is an activist teacher and counselor, and has written a few times Op Ed pieces on this paper, so she is not difficult to discern where she is coming from on this issue.
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Moreover, there is already evidence to show that many in the trans community are, in fact, demanding use of a wide range of pronouns.
Also, they are quick to conflate disagreement with hate speech, and disagreement with justification for physical violence on their part. Witness the arguments of Prof. Hatt at U of T, or the assaults committed by Val Williamson and Meera Ulysses of the same institution.
Any of the trans folks in my circle (the first transitioned in '93) simply want to live life normally and go about their business. To a person, they all use he or she as appropriate.
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Cardinal Wuerl is fairly conservative in his views, as is Francis. However, he is like Francis in that he doesn't see the world through a rigid, black-and-white prism, and mercy and love take priority over harsh rules.
For example, when a priest in the diocese who was presider at a funeral mass learned that the daughter of the deceased was a lesbian, he threw a fit. He refused communion to the woman, left the altar, and refused to go to the gravesite for final prayers. He did not find a substitute priest, but others did. The daughter who was treated in such an un-christian manner received a letter from the Archdiocese that apologized for the "lack of kindness" and saying "I will offer Mass for the happy repose of your mother’s soul. May God bring you and your family comfort in your grief and hope in the Resurrection." The priest was removed shortly afterward from the parish - without explanation (such as when Finn was removed). Wuerl is more Francis than Burke.
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Right, did you see the Iranian version of Footloose? Let's just say instead of a dance at the end, all the rebelling students are stoned to death for blasphemy, the end.
Comparing a country where women are lashed by morality police for wearing ripped jeans to Canada? Are you truly this shameless? Seriously, you are embarrassing yourself - there is no western parallel to the scourge of societies under the controls of religious zealots. Just look at every country that still has the death penalty for homosexuals - it's not a coincidence - it's a function of societies guided by political Islam.
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As I read this essay it became clear that the author voted on the basis of the cultural issues of abortion, contraception and gay marriage. For him, the "best" candidate was the one that promised to appointment SCOTUS judges that would overturn Roe v Wade. Like many evangelicals and conservative Catholics this author voted on the basis of these issues only. Anything else was not really important. Jobs notwithstanding, any other issue paled compared to these. What is inconceivable to me is how he could justify voting for someone who obviously doesn't believe a word of what he says and makes it up as he goes along. I firmly believe that the chickens will come home to roost but not before Trump appoints the judges that will reverse Roe v Wade. Then he and other "deplorables" will have felt justified in their vote.
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I will accept your word for that. ;-)
I have read your distinction between a deductive and inductive interpretations of Natural Law and your preference for the latter: I'm not convinced.
To judge the morality of sexual activity upon how we experience it would legitimise many more types of sexual activity than simply heterosexual and homosexual, which I'm not going to mention here.
Regardless of the situation the accompanying pastor cannot ignore the teaching of the Church otherwise why would he claim to be a Catholic? He is duty bound to point it out to his fellow Catholic seeking his counsel. Having done so, the 'accompanied', if he was culpably ignorant no longer is so.
Discernment is another word for judgement. To judge whether something objectively wrong can be right under certain conditions is 'situation' ethics, the belief that one can deliberately do evil if the outcome can be deemed good, the end justifies the means. The Church teaches that this is never permissible.
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Nice, another contrived feel-good story about a working-class stiff in Gillette WY, brought to you by a Washington Post Trump basher, published in the Denver Post, about the renewed optimism in America's heartland. It comes a day after the Paris Accord, and it's got coal miners, wide open spaces, oil and gas, power generation, layoffs, President Trump, economic recovery, environmental activism, Obama, LGBT people, fishing and hunting, coffee shops, the EPA, hotdogs, steaks, and ramen. Quite a smorgasbord of liberalism-- I'm amazed this Washington Post writer could squeeze all that in there-- but they still forgot to mention illegal aliens. ...God Bless America!
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The transgender post surgery complications, can open the door to military service connected disabilities, that evolved during military service, even though the disabilities were not directly connected to military service.
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You're not making a heck of a lot of sense there, Lawrence. Isn't the "right" to discriminate against gays more like something out sharia law?
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This is an area that I really need to know more about, so I am searching for information. Australia seems to be the only country where deeper research is being done, so maybe we should listen to them. The number of trans gendered adults who changed their sex in Australia, and wished they had not, is a very high percentage. There is a gay actor in Britain who says he is so glad he waited until he was older and feels that the sex of the child at birth ,should be encouraged and the one assigned, until children are at least 18 when they can then make those major decisions themselves. I forget this man's name but a prominent star. Caving into this cross dressing phenomena does not seem right to me with elementary school children. Many will regret this. Allowing anyone under nineteen to have doctors interfere with their genitalia should be discouraged as well. This is a complex topic. What is causing all these chromosome problems?
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Patient safety? Shouldn't the patient and their doctor determine that? Whatever happened to keeping the government out of women's bodies? Whatever happened to freedom of "choice?" Again, we see what liberals really mean by choice. Liberal "choice" isn't the right to live freely and make choices for yourself. Liberal "choice" is nothing more than the right to be gay and the right to have an abortion. Oh, and the right to be transgender, of course.
Let me get this straight: a woman's "choice" to kill her unborn child is between her and her doctor. A woman's "choice" to try something experimental needs to be mediated by government regulation because she and her doctor might make a "choice" that puts her life in danger? If a woman and her doctor determine it is worth the risk, why is that any of the governments' business any more than liberals claim abortion is? A woman can kill her unborn child, but can't determine her cancer treatment! You don't see the irony in that?
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Trump's first and arguably most important appointment was Mike Pence - a man who voted against gay marriage, because it was against "god's ideal" and voted against legislation prohibiting discrimination in the workplace on the grounds of sexual orientation.
Now that you know these facts, will you now post your disapproval? I'll be looking for it.
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So many of the commenters talk about "fitting in". Do Old Order Mennonites fit in? Goths? Punks? Bikers? Trans people? Aboriginals? My Canada includes more than Bob and Doug McKenzie. Diversity does not detract from our Canadianness, it is part of what makes it exceptional.
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