I doubt they are lying, or if they are they are lying to themselves. Ms. Notley believe in the future of bitumen because so many other people do and it is very hard to see beyond what other people around us believe. People in Vancouver have the same problem of course. I doubt that there is a sustainable economic rationale to double TM. The project is running on momentum at this point as too many people find the alternative, a world without the need or desire for bitumen extraction, too hard to imagine at this point. Shouting at people is not going to convince them and even sober economic analysis will not hold much weight. Personally I think we should let Alberta have its pipeline but require that only refined products leave BC. The refinery can be in Edmonton or perhaps in Delta somewhere. I think this whole thing is a huge waste of money and time as the world will not want or need this resource.