"what "being church" is really all about.”—Mokantx  The Faithful can learn from Liturgy of the Word, Reading 473, today, Monday of the Twenty-ninth Week in Ordinary Time II, “The lord made us, we belong to him” (Psalm 100:3b).  The Faithful, therefore, do not belong to the hierarchs.  The problem with Papal clericalism is refusal to heed the social scientists.  Papal clericalism confuses political power to override the findings of the social sciences with dialogue and with letting truth determine church politics.

Victor Victoria merits serious consideration.