ATF....I agree that the bishops need a LOT of lay input from all those groups you reference....And God willing it will happen....and I think it's the Tobins of the world who will push for that...amongst his confreres...

But  I also think their USCCB meetings are pathetic and the only bishops, individual bishops  are apt to really talk to are those who agree with them....seems to me that Tobin was challenging that....at the organizational level....and Francis was too, by appointing these guys....