dan, so so true. im one of these guys. we got ours, screw everyone else. we would rather, as a society, spend $40k/year keeping a person in prison for 50 years than spend $20k/year for 20 years to support a disadvantaged and marginalized kid into an educated, self-sustaining and upstanding citizen. i use the analogy of why the 600k professed christians in hawaii can't do something about the 8k homeless people. i pick on christians because they always bring up the bible and jesus who, as i read it, said to 'love thy neighbor as thyself'. (mark 12-31). if they practiced it, we wouldn't be having this conversation because there wouldn't be any foster kids.