I can't disagree with you.  But if one of Hawaii's largest public employee unions is unwilling to rock the boat (meaning they look the other way at the waste of huge sums of money on wasteful bureaucracy each day by sister unions), then they don't deserve a penny more in salary.  The money they seek is right under their noses in the DOE budget.  Since money doesn't grow on trees, teachers need to grow a pair if they want the public's support in transferring the funds from other government workers to their own.  There just isn't any other decent source of funding.  And I'm not worried about UPW or HGEA workers being let go.  Those TV commercials telling us how amazing and talented and hardworking these workers supposedly are have me convinced they would find private sector jobs the very next day.