When the 4th of July comes, the Mariners are over with.  It is a Tradition, and please give it a rest about the 116 game season, long past.  To see this organization change this tradition will be a stronger front office, I know it is new, and they have yet to find a manager that can really motivate the team, to bad Lou Piniella is not available.  When they entered the league, another team also joined, that team has two world series rings, do you know who?, maybe they should see what they did.  Traditions are hard to brake, it might be 108 years before they break it, the Cubs did.