Sorry HRH, my wife wanted to go to the pool and I dropped her there and went to the gym. In a few minutes, I'm going out to weed the front yard if that's OK. My point was that Harper made things far, far worse not that Chretien was blameless. I don't believe that there are any allegations that CSIS went back down to Gitmo on Martin's watch but I've never seen a complete timeline. Anyway, you're trying to blame me for saying it's all Harper's fault while you dance around blaming it all on Chretien (who definitely seems to have been involved at least by being PM at the time) and Martin who doesn't appear to have had anything to do with it.