I wasn't calling it fraud, but I guess it was, huh?  Any way I saw, with my own little eyes. paper work to get a drivers license.  It had a box if you checked it, they sent you a voter approved drivers license. And its not vetted, verified or checked. Cali. and NY had about 20 million motor voters.  Probably 95% Hispanic.  How many do you think cheated the system, checked the box, and voted Hillary?  I think 5 million is low ball.  Hillary got her clocked cleaned in the EC (you know, where it counts), and I think in the popular as well. So if every body would shut up about "winning" the popular, so would I.