O77 - WE AGREE on something.!!  ..sorta - the wife or kids should not be penalized.  12 kids - all ages - running a ranch.  the wife i bet is dingy too...but kudos to you for caring! also due to the unreal colliding of all laws of nature in response to our opinions sorta agreeing - a cosmic "WHOA !" will reveal itself somewhere, somehow at some point soon...