The ACLU defends things that are indefensible and safety risks, like fighting public camping bans. They talk from a idealistic piety that has no roots in reality, that's partly why they get blamed. Those of us living with the results of ACLU's selective high-mindedness get frustrated with stupid, impractical non-sense advocated by the ACLU. As far as innocent until proven guilty, there are degrees of potential guilt and commenting on someone's obvious guilt isn't some violation of sacred ideals. The guy CONFESSED for God's sake and had blood all over his shirt. I don't know if he was out of his mind, I suspect so, but Denver essentially enables homelessness without addressing things like addiction. Addiction that is often the root cause for mental illnesses often displayed by the homeless. See, killing people on the installment plan sometimes has collateral damage, like this poor guy, stabbed to death by a homeless animal.