Yes, we know that all new saints now must have been popes.  I do agree to put an end to this discussion would be good, but let's put an end to calling those popes who hid sexual abuse saints.  They are not the people that should be put forth as those we should emulate...  Fact is if they are saints, then all of us are saints and perhaps that is true.  I do not believe that our great God put us here to punish us.  There are those who act stupidly even hurt others but to say our great God puts them in a place called hell is ridiculous.  People in hell are those here on earth that put themselves there by their cruelty, envy and greed..