Actually, your reading comprehension skills are deficient.  My 'associate' obtained his degree from Duck U but refused to do the Fullbright thing after that.    Re-read my post.   "...offered a Fulbright opportunity at the U of O after attending and completing a degree there".  I view your reliance on 'sample size' as specious.  Again you want to ignore facts in favor of statistics.   I said nothing about graduation rates or test scores.  That is, once again, 'changing the subject'.  I am basically saying that the old paradigm of four years of college immediately after graduation from high school is no longer necessarily valid.  That was Ward I's argument to which I responded and you then interjected your denial of my anecdotal evidence to the contrary.