Unfortunately Bill is managing a glacier he doesn't own. I have years of glacier travel experience and I was turned around today by him. If you want to ice climb or hike around you need to pay for an escort. AKA a guide. I would never get onto a glacier with training, however, imagine if the road up to Flatop was privately owned and someone such as Bill, set the rules on how you hike and explore Flatop? The State owns Flattop and Matanuska Glacier.