Well, I hope Civil beats editors step up here since they claimed to have a newfound dedication to keeping the comments boards civil. Words like 'dignity, honor, shame, ethically challenged' are all inflammatory words. And trying to tie haunama bay to the mayors second job at the bank just lacks any logical connection. Maybe instead ThirdRock can say if supports or opposes some of the specific proposals by the friends? For example, I think the private-public partnership is worth exploring. I don't like the idea of transferring it to enterprise services, they have a charter mandate to make money.