Not going to argue or even get into a discussion with you two on this subject, but the word "quality" appeared in the above reply. With the disposable society that we live in , "quality" is never going to mean anything regardless of what the consumer is going to purchase, well except maybe a Lambo, since most everything is mass produced at the cheapest price and sold at what the market will bear and quality is never going to enter into the equation, not even with Apple products, though they are better quality in some instances that what Samsung or Google mass produce.