James_Everest As I said: get informed. The 'Skousen' version
of the Constitution displayed prominently in the front pocket of
all the Bundy criminals (they are not
'protesters' if they are heavily armed)
does indeed advocate overthrow of
all Federal authority. While you seem
intent on the limiting of personal access to public lands, the real threat
is the sale of public lands to the highest bidder: corporations and the
wealthy. Eastern Oregon was a dust
bowl in the 1930's: the Refuge was created in part to prevent futher
environmental devastation.
The Bundy idiots and their militia
supporters are the 'not so bright'
wing of the far right in the US who
want public lands belonging to all of us  opened to mining, logging, and grazing which would cause irreversible damage to the environment for short term profit for
a few. Judge Grasty and Sheriff Ward
had some great remarks on collaboration between all stakeholders in public lands, including ranchers. Armed conflict is
never justifiable.