With Assange saying the stuff that WikiLeaks  handed out on the Podesta e-mails didn't come from Russia and the CIA saying it was at the direction of Putin at 1;47PM in the afternoon on  a Thursday, Moscow time,  it is really hard to even guess where a real fact might be in there!

The only 'reality' seems to be that Podesta is as much a piece of work as Cheney ever was for Bush!