Caiside2, I don't know what else to say to them, many are good friends, but it is so frustrating! They are so convinced that to change Washington they have to send an outsider, that literally he could do or say anything and they would still vote for him. Some of these friends are Vets or have family members in the service. They also think Hillary is going to take their guns and their religious rights away. This election can not come soon enough...pray, pray and pray.