Dean, that's a BS argument if I ever heard one! We could have universal healthcare w/o depriving the rights of anyone. We could do this by altering our spending priorities. There's no justification for the current excessive level of defense spending, we could easily reduce that level to fund universal healthcare w/o increasing taxes or imposing penalties on the uninsured. Doctors would not be forced to treat for free but rather at a reasonable negotiated rate with the government.