It's flat-landers and yes when they all come up here to the mountains they wreak havoc. Some of that is folks not knowing how to drive on mountain roads, stuck behind an RV going 25mph in a 50 and there's so much traffic, the passing zones don't work anymore, the RV never pulls over into the slow vehicle turnouts to let anyone pass and so people go around on the double yellow when they can. And then there's accidents.