So what do you think a manager ought to be accountable for?  Wins and Losses?  8 years with the Padres, 649 wins and 713 losses, no post seasons, two close but no cigar.  I am not involved with Rockies baseball enough to know who the other candidates might have been, nor do I care.  I am just expressing my opinion that Black can't -- or at least hasn't yet -- closed out a winning season.  Do you dispute that?