Steve Greatwood actually found Marcus & passed it on to Helf.  Chip was the Coach then too.  I also think there was some bad luck involved, since all the supposed 4*s never panned out. Was that because they weren't developed or didn't work hard? I too really felt bad about Mark getting fired, but geez the more I hear from the players, and see what this staff is creating, maybe he was always the wrong choice.  My husband always said he didn't have the right demeanor to be a head coach.