The subject was gun homicides, which doesn’t include suicides. We are, after all, discussing people inflicting violence on others. Illinois’ gun murder rate of 5.8 per 100,000 population puts them in a tie for 13th highest. Many of the states with higher rates are the least populous states which tend to skew the numbers somewhat. But the original point still stands... they have very strict gun laws, yet they still have an enormous gun murder problem.