Thank you Juergen for your response I was pleased that you came back to me.
All that you say is very positive for you and the people in involved, you are putting a lot of effort into your responses and I thank you for it.

 The scenario I gave you on Joe was a means to convey the reality of many people’s lives and was left to your imagination to expand the scenario, so to give more clarity to what I am saying I will expand the scenario but before I do so I would say whatever scenario I place before you, you will be able repudiate by holding fast to the law but you must remember that our God is a God of mercy. Jesus castigated the Pharisees for their Pride and arrogance but he praised the tax collector in the temple a collaborator who was sincere (humble) before God at that moment in time and he went home justified, he remained in his sinful situation (Continued in been a traitor)

 Here your words hold true 

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