Neko, I think we're all partly right and we're all partly deluding ourselves. I am always amazed when people speak about "the spirit of Vatican II" as giving them authority to make statements that contradict what the Council said. That's pretty much everyone who writes for NCR. I also wonder how we can consider ourselves bound in any meaningful way by papal interpretation of conciliar teaching from popes who articulate that teaching so differently. So I'm inclined to make allowances for the insular and apocalyptic in our midst. Not so long ago, they used to be us. - Monica.