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<div><div><div><div><h2>Frontpage Posts</h2><p>Customize Feed (Hide)Customize Feed (Show)</p></div><div><p><a href="/topics/community">Community-</a>Community-<p>Personal<a>+</a></p></p></div></div><p><div><div><h2>Recent Discussion</h2></div><div><div><div><p><i>Posted also on the Alignment Forum. Will be included in a sequence containing some previous posts and other posts I'll publish this year.</i></p><h2>Introduction</h2><p>Humans think critically about values and, to a certain extent, they also act according to their values. To the average human, the difference between increasing world happiness and increasing world suffering is huge and evident, while goals such as collecting coins and collecting stamps are roughly on the same level.</p><p>It would be nice to make these differences obvious to AI as they are to us. Even though exactly copying what happens in the human mind is probably not the best strategy to design an AI that understands ethics, having an idea of how value works in humans is a good starting point.</p><p>So, how do humans...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/4dvJBMZMsipKniZdv/on-value-in-humans-other-animals-and-ai">(Continue Reading – 1414 more words)</a></p></div><div><div><p><i>Note this is a sincere question. Not intended to cause controversy. It was inspired by </i><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/qvEo8kzn3zMEriGtN/questions-about-op-grant-to-helena"><i>this post</i></a><i> questioning another OP Grant.</i></p><p><strong>Full Disclosure</strong></p><p>I applied to the Atlas Fellowship but was rejected. However, I attended <a href="https://www.sparc-camp.com/">SPARC,</a> a free in-person program that teaches rationality tools to high schoolers (and follows a similar structure to Atlas Fellowship's camp). I'm friends with many Atlas Fellows.</p><p><strong>What is the Atlas Fellowship?</strong></p><p>For those newer to the EA Community, the <a href="https://www.atlasfellowship.org/">Atlas Fellowship</a> is a competitive program for high schoolers. If you are awarded it, you receive,</p><ul><li>A $50k scholarship (or $12,000 for <a href="https://www.atlasfellowship.in/">Atlas India</a>).<ul><li>Atlas Fellows can spend this money on anything considered an "academic expense". This includes travel expenses if justification can be provided.</li></ul></li><li>A fully-funded 11-day summer program in the Bay Area in a <a href="https://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/38755401/2401-Piedmont-Ave-Berkeley-CA-94704/">large former fraternity on UC Berkley's campus</a>. </li><li>College admissions preparation for top</li></ul><p>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/fMrtoKBFK7p6oRHpu/atlas-fellowship-why-do-100-high-schoolers-need-usd50k-each">(See More – 736 more words)</a></p></div><div><div><p>Link-post for the article "Effective Altruism Promises to Do Good Better. These Women Say It Has a Toxic Culture Of Sexual Harassment and Abuse"</p><p>A few quotes:</p><blockquote><p>Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince [Keerthana Gopalakrishnan] to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.</p><p>After a particularly troubling incident of sexual harassment, Gopalakrishnan wrote a post on an online forum for EAs in Nov. 2022. While she declined to publicly describe details of the incident, she argued that EA’s culture was hostile toward women. “It puts your safety at risk,” she</p></blockquote><p>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/JCyX29F77Jak5gbwq/ea-sexual-harassment-and-abuse">(See More – 559 more words)</a></p></div><p><div><div><p>Sign up for the Forum's email digest</p></div><p>You'll get a weekly email with the best posts from the past week. The Forum team selects the posts to feature based on personal preference and Forum popularity, and also adds some announcements and a classic post.</p></div></p><div><div><p>A few years ago, I read <i>The Life You Can Save</i> by Peter Singer. I felt deeply inspired. The idea that charities could be compared using evidence and reason, the thought that I could save many lives without sacrificing my own happiness: I found these ideas meaningful, and I hoped they would give my life a sense of purpose (even if other factors <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/4Xv4pB8izmYZCXXhj/unflattering-reasons-why-i-m-attracted-to-ea">were</a> likely also at play).</p><p>I became an Intro Fellow and read more. I went to conferences and retreats. I now lead my university group.</p><p>But I’m frustrated. </p><p>I’m now asked to answer for the <a href="https://www.metaculus.com/questions/14089/sbf-prison-sentence-length-2030/">actions</a> of a man who defrauded millions of people, and for the purchase of <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey">castles</a> and <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/fMrtoKBFK7p6oRHpu/atlas-fellowship-why-do-100-high-schoolers-need-usd50k-each?commentId=jzrKLunArhmaFJEyk">$2000+ coffee tables</a>.</p><p>I’m now <a href="https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/">associated</a> with predatory polyamorous rationalists. </p><p>I’m now told to spend my life <a href="https://globalprioritiesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Case-for-Strong-Longtermism-GPI-Working-Paper-June-2021-2-2.pdf">reducing</a>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/iMGGsjmtbkopakx5K/i-no-longer-feel-comfortable-in-ea">(See More – 56 more words)</a></p></div><div><div><figure><div><p></p></div></figure><p>Recently I had a conversation with <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/users/elifland">Eli Lifland</a> about the AI Alignment landscape. Eli Lifland has been a forecaster at <a href="https://samotsvety.org/">Samotsvety</a> and has been investigating said landscape.</p><p>I’ve known Eli for the last 8 months or so, and have appreciated many of his takes on AI alignment strategy.</p><p>This was my first recorded video, so there were a few issues, but I think most of it is understandable.</p><p>Full (edited) transcript below. I suggest browsing the section titles for a better overview of our discussion.</p><h2>Transcript</h2><h3>Sections</h3><ol><li>Samotsvety, a Recent Forecasting Organization</li><li>Reading, “Is Power-Seeking AI an Existential Risk?”</li><li>Categories of AI Failures: Accident, Misuse, and Structural</li><li>Who Is Making Strategic Progress on Alignment?</li><li>Community Building: Arguments For</li><li>Community Building: Fellowships and Mentorship</li><li>Cruxes in the AI Alignment Space</li><li>Crux: How Promising is AI Interpretability?</li><li>Crux: Should We Use Narrow AIs</li></ol><p>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/QeLE22fefLqKfYTW6/eli-lifland-on-navigating-the-ai-alignment-landscape">(Continue Reading – 9117 more words)</a></p></div><div><p>There was a post up some time last week I wanted to read called <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NacFjEJGoFFWRqsc8/women-and-effective-altruism">Women and Effective Altruism</a>. Later last week I noticed the page seemed down and now I just get "Sorry, you don't have access to this page." I was wondering why that was. My 60 second glance at the two top comments gave me the impression that the post stimulated healthy discourse among EA women on their experiences in EA.</p></div><div><div><h2>Key Takeaways</h2><ul><li>We offer welfare range estimates for 11 farmed species: pigs, chickens, carp, salmon, octopuses, shrimp, crayfish, crabs, bees, black soldier flies, and silkworms.</li><li>These estimates are, essentially, estimates of the differences in the possible intensities of these animals' pleasures and pains relative to humans' pleasures and pains. Then, we add a number of controversial (albeit plausible) philosophical assumptions (including hedonism, valence symmetry, and others discussed <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/hxtwzcsz8hQfGyZQM/an-introduction-to-the-moral-weight-project">here</a>) to reach conclusions about animals' welfare ranges relative to human's welfare range.</li><li>Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.7) that none of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest have a welfare range that’s more than double the size of any of the others. While carp and salmon have lower scores than pigs and chickens, we suspect that’s largely due</li></ul><p>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/Qk3hd6PrFManj8K6o/rethink-priorities-welfare-range-estimates">(Continue Reading – 4630 more words)</a></p></div><div><div><p><strong>Foresight Institute is a research organization and non-profit that supports the development of technologies that can have a positive impact on the world. Since 1986, we have focused on advancing crucial technologies such as molecular machines and atomic precision for applications in energy, medicine, material science, and space development. </strong></p><p><strong>However, with all technological developments we also recognize that there is a risk. We believe that ideas from the effective altruism and longtermist communities have not yet been fully embraced in the mainstream science and technology fields, despite their potential to lead to safer developments of crucial technologies, and to differential technological progress. To address this, we want to invite more EA people to attend our upcoming workshops. </strong></p><p>By doing so, we hope to introduce these ideas into scientific discussions...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/CNxteiKdRk9Hez3pv/ea-relevant-foresight-institute-workshops-in-2023-wbe-and-ai">(See More – 793 more words)</a></p></div><div><div><p>From <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/GoWNiPbrEb6NHD3MF/announcing-interim-ceos-of-evf">Announcing Interim CEOs of EVF</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The EVF UK board consists of Will MacAskill, Tasha McCauley, Claire Zabel, Owen Cotton-Barratt, and Nick Beckstead. The EVF US board consists of Nick Beckstead, Rebecca Kagan, and Nicole Ross. <strong>Given their ties to the FTX Foundation and Future Fund, Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead are recused from discussions and decision-making that relate to FTX</strong>,<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/GoWNiPbrEb6NHD3MF/announcing-interim-ceos-of-evf#fnesid4w17ljo"><sup>[4]</sup></a> as they have been since early November. </p></blockquote><ul><li>Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead had significant enough ties to FTX to be recused from EVF FTX-related decision-making, a significant and legally complex element of the boards' current responsibilities.</li><li>Claire Zabel oversees significant grant-making to EVF organizations through her role at Open Phil, <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=3cLRAk98q8jMwhrEc">some of which</a> have come under fire. While it is common for funders to serve on boards, it is not</li></ul><p>...</p></div><p><a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members">(See More – 71 more words)</a></p></div></div></div></p></div>||||I|||| This website requires javascript to properly function. Consider activating javascript to get access to all site functionality.

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 On value in humans, other animals, and AI
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 Michele Campolo
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 Posted also on the Alignment Forum. Will be included in a sequence containing some previous posts and other posts I'll publish this year.

 Introduction

 Humans think critically about values and, to a certain extent, they also act according to their values. To the average human, the difference between increasing world happiness and increasing world suffering is huge and evident, while goals such as collecting coins and collecting stamps are roughly on the same level.

 It would be nice to make these differences obvious to AI as they are to us. Even though exactly copying what happens in the human mind is probably not the best strategy to design an AI that understands ethics, having an idea of how value works in humans is a good starting point.

 So, how do humans...

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 Michele Campolo 7m 1 0

 Yes I'd like to read a clearer explanation. You can leave the link here in a comment or write me a private message.

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 [Atlas Fellowship] Why do 100 high-schoolers need $50k each from Open Philanthropy?
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 Sparcalum2 , NunoSempere
 Atlas Fellowship Open Philanthropy Criticism of effective altruist organizations Impact assessment Community Building effective altruism
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 Note this is a sincere question. Not intended to cause controversy. It was inspired by this post questioning another OP Grant.

 Full Disclosure

 I applied to the Atlas Fellowship but was rejected. However, I attended SPARC, a free in-person program that teaches rationality tools to high schoolers (and follows a similar structure to Atlas Fellowship's camp). I'm friends with many Atlas Fellows.

 What is the Atlas Fellowship?

 For those newer to the EA Community, the Atlas Fellowship is a competitive program for high schoolers. If you are awarded it, you receive,

 * A $50k scholarship (or $12,000 for Atlas India).
 + Atlas Fellows can spend this money on anything considered an "academic expense". This includes travel expenses if justification can be provided.
 * A fully-funded 11-day summer program in the Bay Area in a large former fraternity on UC Berkley's campus.
 * College admissions preparation for top
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 Sparcalum2 8m 1 0

 The data also supports this: I am an Atlas Fellow and Jonas polled us on who would benefit from a full-ride scholarship. Out of 50-60 respondents, 7 answered that their parents are already paying for everything. 9 answered that they already have a full-ride scholarship, and 36 answered that getting a full-ride scholarship would "help with career" or allow them to "take out fewer loans."

 This seems like a poorly worded question. Many people would be incentivised to say yes if there is even a 1% probability that answering this question may lead to existing fellows getting full-ride scholarships

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 1 Sparcalum2 12m
 I meant that there is no database of what items have been ordered (and with quantities) meaning that, if someone wanted to, they could steal something (eg, a laptop) and it would likely go unnoticed.
 1 Sparcalum2 17m
 Thank you, this response makes the most sense to me.
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 This is a linkpost for https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/

 Link-post for the article "Effective Altruism Promises to Do Good Better. These Women Say It Has a Toxic Culture Of Sexual Harassment and Abuse"

 A few quotes:

 Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince [Keerthana Gopalakrishnan] to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.

 After a particularly troubling incident of sexual harassment, Gopalakrishnan wrote a post on an online forum for EAs in Nov. 2022. While she declined to publicly describe details of the incident, she argued that EA’s culture was hostile toward women. “It puts your safety at risk,” she

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 Lorenzo Buonanno 13m 2 0

 I have redacted from this comment the name of a person accused, based on https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/JCyX29F77Jak5gbwq/ea-sexual-harassment-and-abuse?commentId=9hdQzfxNZ9K4cBCGG

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 2 agunning 4h
 I think the main reason that EA/rationalist spaces and activist spaces have historically often not gotten along well is that in EA/rat spaces there is a strong norm against a certain kinds of strongly worded moral injunctions. I think the reason for this is that EA tends to attract people driven to do good but with perhaps an OCDish tendency to worry if they're doing enough and push themselves too hard. If we instead went around saying it was shameful people were still eating meat and also shameful people weren't giving more money instead of using it to vist friends and also shameful they weren't thinking enough about how to prevent sexual assault people would pretty quickly burn out. (There are certainly people in the community who can and do translate a lot of things activists say into EA/rat friendly language) Of course, if you assume the best of too many people you let in bad actors and I suspect a lot of people might find it stifling. But it does create a safe space for many of us.
 45 Scott Alexander 4h
 In 2018, I collected data about several types of sexual harassment on the SSC survey, which I will report here to help inform the discussion. I'm going to simplify by assuming that only cis women are victims and only cis men are perpetrators, even though that's bad and wrong. Women who identified as EA were less likely report lifetime sexual harassed at work than other women, 18% vs. 20%. They were also less likely to report being sexually harassed outside of work, 57% vs. 61%. Men who identified as EA were less likely to admit to sexually harassing people at work (2.1% vs. 2.9%) or outside of work (16.2% vs. 16.5%) The sample was 270 non-EA women, 99 EA women, 4940 non-EA men, and 683 EA men. None of these results were statistically significant, although all of them trended in the direction of EAs experiencing less sexual harassment. This doesn't prove that EA environments have less harassment than the average environment, since it could be that EAs are biased to have less sexual harassment for other reasons, and whatever additional harassment they get in EA isn't enough to make up for it; the vast majority of EAs have the vast majority of interactions in non-EA environments. I tried to sort of get around this by limiting my analysis to people living in California, on the grounds that they were more likely to be plugged into EA communities and jobs. Conditional on being a woman in California, being EA did make someone more likely to experience sexual harassment, consistently, as measured in many different ways. But Californian EAs were also younger, much more bisexual, and much more polyamorous than Californian non-EAs; adjusting for sexuality and polyamory didn't remove the gap, but age was harder to adjust for and I didn't try. EAs who said they were working at charitable jobs that they explicitly calculated were effective had lower harassment rates than the average person, but those working at charitable jobs that they didn't expliclitly calculate were h
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 I No Longer Feel Comfortable in EA
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 Community experiences Criticism of effective altruism culture Criticism of longtermism and existential risk studies Criticism of effective altruism Community Building effective altruism Existential risk
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 A few years ago, I read The Life You Can Save by Peter Singer. I felt deeply inspired. The idea that charities could be compared using evidence and reason, the thought that I could save many lives without sacrificing my own happiness: I found these ideas meaningful, and I hoped they would give my life a sense of purpose (even if other factors were likely also at play).

 I became an Intro Fellow and read more. I went to conferences and retreats. I now lead my university group.

 But I’m frustrated.

 I’m now asked to answer for the actions of a man who defrauded millions of people, and for the purchase of castles and $2000+ coffee tables.

 I’m now associated with predatory polyamorous rationalists.

 I’m now told to spend my life reducing...

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 Guy Raveh 24m 2 0

 I don't see how that matters exactly? OP is talking about their effect, and I don't think any work on AI safety to date has lowered the chance of catastrophe by more than a tiny amount.

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 2 Lizka 1h
 I have been trying to find this post and the older one for a few weeks now, but I couldn't remember the term — thanks so much for linking it.
 7 titotal 1h
 I agree that that the framing could be improved, but I'm not sure the actual claim is inaccurate? There is a pool of donors who make their decisions based on the opinions of EA. Several years ago they were "directed" toward giving their money towards global poverty. Now, due to a shift in opinion, they are "directed" towards giving their money towards AI safety. At least some of that money has been "redirected": if the shift hadn't occurred, global poverty would probably have had more money, and AI safety probably would have had less. As an AI risk believer, you think that this change in funding is on balance good, whereas the OP is an AI risk skeptic that thinks this shift in funding is bad. Both are valid opinions that cast no aspersions on ones character (and here is where I think the framing could be improved). I think if you fall into the latter camp, it's a perfectly valid reason to want to leave.
 Eli Lifland on Navigating the AI Alignment Landscape
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 This is a linkpost for https://quri.substack.com/p/eli-lifland-on-navigating-the-ai-722

 Recently I had a conversation with Eli Lifland about the AI Alignment landscape. Eli Lifland has been a forecaster at Samotsvety and has been investigating said landscape.

 I’ve known Eli for the last 8 months or so, and have appreciated many of his takes on AI alignment strategy.

 This was my first recorded video, so there were a few issues, but I think most of it is understandable.

 Full (edited) transcript below. I suggest browsing the section titles for a better overview of our discussion.

 Transcript

 Sections

 1. Samotsvety, a Recent Forecasting Organization
 2. Reading, “Is Power-Seeking AI an Existential Risk?”
 3. Categories of AI Failures: Accident, Misuse, and Structural
 4. Who Is Making Strategic Progress on Alignment?
 5. Community Building: Arguments For
 6. Community Building: Fellowships and Mentorship
 7. Cruxes in the AI Alignment Space
 8. Crux: How Promising is AI Interpretability?
 9. Crux: Should We Use Narrow AIs
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 Pato 32m 1 0

 I just listen to these type of videos as podcasts and don't read transcripts.

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 There are audio version in the Substack. I can see about adding them to the EA Forum more directly in the future. https://quri.substack.com/p/eli-lifland-on-navigating-the-ai-722
 What happened to the "Women and Effective Altruism" post?
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 Cornelis Dirk Haupt , Lorenzo Buonanno
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 There was a post up some time last week I wanted to read called Women and Effective Altruism. Later last week I noticed the page seemed down and now I just get "Sorry, you don't have access to this page." I was wondering why that was. My 60 second glance at the two top comments gave me the impression that the post stimulated healthy discourse among EA women on their experiences in EA.

 Lorenzo Buonanno 32m 3 0

 <3

 I don't think your comment was that bad, it was clearly not norm-violating or anything, and thank you for writing it even if you were very tired and frustrated (I now upvoted it, and I hope you're now feeling better and taking time for self-care).
 It could result in useful feedback on how to improve the forum, which is valuable. I would personally much prefer people write imperfect feedback than nothing at all for fear of being discouraging or incorrect

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 Because they all did in the comments of your orginal post. I remember that being the case because I had specifically checked at the time for community health team's response (Julia and Catherine), and also I remember being impressed with EA NYC response (and I thought of that as Rocky although they also have another person for community health and diversity). Before writing my long comment above, I did quickly check the Greater Wrong mirror post for their comments cuz I'd hate to mention ther names and be wrong. But I'm happy to publicly commend people for trying to communicate, as long as it can be gleaned from publicly visible information. If they also DMed you, I didn't know that. The offers to speak in comments are all I'm referencing.
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 I see, makes sense.
 Rethink Priorities’ Welfare Range Estimates
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 Bob Fischer
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 Key Takeaways

 * We offer welfare range estimates for 11 farmed species: pigs, chickens, carp, salmon, octopuses, shrimp, crayfish, crabs, bees, black soldier flies, and silkworms.
 * These estimates are, essentially, estimates of the differences in the possible intensities of these animals' pleasures and pains relative to humans' pleasures and pains. Then, we add a number of controversial (albeit plausible) philosophical assumptions (including hedonism, valence symmetry, and others discussed here) to reach conclusions about animals' welfare ranges relative to human's welfare range.
 * Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.7) that none of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest have a welfare range that’s more than double the size of any of the others. While carp and salmon have lower scores than pigs and chickens, we suspect that’s largely due
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 Finngoeslong 1h 1 0

 Thanks for the writeup. Not an area I know much about. Interested to hear what you think the priorities are for further research in this area.

 I liked the common questions & responses section - very helpful for someone like me who is new to this topic.

 What surprised me - perhaps it shouldn't have done - is that you think it's plausible that some animals have a welfare higher than humans...

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 EA relevant Foresight Institute Workshops in 2023: WBE & AI safety, Cryptography & AI safety, XHope, Space, and Atomically Precise Manufacturing
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 Foresight Institute is a research organization and non-profit that supports the development of technologies that can have a positive impact on the world. Since 1986, we have focused on advancing crucial technologies such as molecular machines and atomic precision for applications in energy, medicine, material science, and space development.

 However, with all technological developments we also recognize that there is a risk. We believe that ideas from the effective altruism and longtermist communities have not yet been fully embraced in the mainstream science and technology fields, despite their potential to lead to safer developments of crucial technologies, and to differential technological progress. To address this, we want to invite more EA people to attend our upcoming workshops.

 By doing so, we hope to introduce these ideas into scientific discussions...

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 Per Ivar Friborg 1h 3 0

 The Whole Brain Emulation Workshop link takes me nowhere:
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 Seems like the correct link is: https://foresight.org/whole-brain-emulation-workshop-2023/

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 From Announcing Interim CEOs of EVF:

 The EVF UK board consists of Will MacAskill, Tasha McCauley, Claire Zabel, Owen Cotton-Barratt, and Nick Beckstead. The EVF US board consists of Nick Beckstead, Rebecca Kagan, and Nicole Ross. Given their ties to the FTX Foundation and Future Fund, Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead are recused from discussions and decision-making that relate to FTX,[4] as they have been since early November.

 * Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead had significant enough ties to FTX to be recused from EVF FTX-related decision-making, a significant and legally complex element of the boards' current responsibilities.
 * Claire Zabel oversees significant grant-making to EVF organizations through her role at Open Phil, some of which have come under fire. While it is common for funders to serve on boards, it is not
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 Did Nick and Will massively miscalculate? I think the evidence is still not clear. At the moment it seems more to me that "some people on the EA Forum think they massively miscalculated", and removing board members for that reason seems a bit witch-hunty to me.

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 The OP says: "Claire Zabel oversees significant grant-making to EVF organizations through her role at Open Phil, some of which [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=3cLRAk98q8jMwhrEc] have come under fire. While it is common for funders to serve on boards, it is not necessarily best practice." I interpret this as saying Claire should be removed because 'funders serving on boards is not necessarily best practice', and also because the Wytham Abbey purchase was controversial and/or bad. I think it's bad to cite the Abbey as a reason for a decision like this, while maintaining ambiguity about whether you think the purchase was a bad idea vs. merely controversial. I also think it would be unhealthy for EA to go down the road of making decisions heavily based on what seems controversial, without saying anything about whether you think the idea was also bad. Social environments with a lot of "obviously X is suspect, everyone knows that, no need for me to say why I think that" talk tend to fall into a lot of deference cascades and miasma-based bad reputations [https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Js34Ez9nrDeJCTYQL/politics-is-way-too-meta.)]. (Things that are perceived as bad largely because other people keep reporting that they think others perceive the thing as bad.) If Wytham Abbey is going to be cited as one of the reasons to remove people from boards (as indeed it has been here), then it needs to be OK for people to say why they agree or disagree with that call. (Which is also part of why it's helpful to say specifically what you think we should take away from the abbey case for this decision, rather than just fuzzily saying the decision has "come under fire". Many good ideas inspire disagreement! If you think this was a bad idea, then just say so, and ideally gesture at why you think so.) For context: I was already planning to share Edward's comment somewhere, since I liked the analysis (similar to one h
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 While I do think I maybe disagree with Buck on the actual costs to people speaking openly, I also think there are pretty big gains in terms of trust and reputation to be had by speaking out openly. In my experience it's a kind of increase-in-variance of how people relate to you, with an overall positive mean, with there definitely being some chance of someone disliking you being open, but there also being a high chance of someone being very interested in supporting you and caring a lot about you not being unfairly punished for speaking true things, and rewarding you for sharing important information. There are a lot of very high-integrity people around who will be willing to die on the hill of you speaking openly about what you think is important. My guess is this variance causes some people to genuinely be silenced, since some people really hate the idea of anyone taking adversarial action against them. I feel genuinely stuck on what to do about that. I often try my best to reward and incentivize people who speak out openly in epistemically sane ways, but I don't have a good solution for how to make it so that nobody will take any adversarial action against that. The community is big, and I can't uniformly enforce norms everywhere, and even trying would probably have a pretty bad false-positive rate.
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(See More – 56 more words)           Recently I had a conversation with Eli Lifland about the AI Alignment landscape. Eli Lifland has been a forecaster at Samotsvety and has been investigating said landscape. I’ve known Eli for the last 8 months or so, and have appreciated many of his takes on AI alignment strategy. This was my first recorded video, so there were a few issues, but I think most of it is understandable. Full (edited) transcript below. I suggest browsing the section titles for a better overview of our discussion. Transcript Sections  Samotsvety, a Recent Forecasting Organization Reading, “Is Power-Seeking AI an Existential Risk?” Categories of AI Failures: Accident, Misuse, and Structural Who Is Making Strategic Progress on Alignment? Community Building: Arguments For Community Building: Fellowships and Mentorship Cruxes in the AI Alignment Space Crux: How Promising is AI Interpretability? Crux: Should We Use Narrow AIs  ...   (Continue Reading – 9117 more words)    There was a post up some time last week I wanted to read called Women and Effective Altruism. Later last week I noticed the page seemed down and now I just get "Sorry, you don't have access to this page." I was wondering why that was. My 60 second glance at the two top comments gave me the impression that the post stimulated healthy discourse among EA women on their experiences in EA.    Key Takeaways  We offer welfare range estimates for 11 farmed species: pigs, chickens, carp, salmon, octopuses, shrimp, crayfish, crabs, bees, black soldier flies, and silkworms. These estimates are, essentially, estimates of the differences in the possible intensities of these animals' pleasures and pains relative to humans' pleasures and pains. Then, we add a number of controversial (albeit plausible) philosophical assumptions (including hedonism, valence symmetry, and others discussed here) to reach conclusions about animals' welfare ranges relative to human's welfare range. Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.7) that none of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest have a welfare range that’s more than double the size of any of the others. While carp and salmon have lower scores than pigs and chickens, we suspect that’s largely due  ...   (Continue Reading – 4630 more words)      Foresight Institute is a research organization and non-profit that supports the development of technologies that can have a positive impact on the world. Since 1986, we have focused on advancing crucial technologies such as molecular machines and atomic precision for applications in energy, medicine, material science, and space development.    However, with all technological developments we also recognize that there is a risk. We believe that ideas from the effective altruism and longtermist communities have not yet been fully embraced in the mainstream science and technology fields, despite their potential to lead to safer developments of crucial technologies, and to differential technological progress. To address this, we want to invite more EA people to attend our upcoming workshops.   By doing so, we hope to introduce these ideas into scientific discussions...   (See More – 793 more words)     From Announcing Interim CEOs of EVF:  The EVF UK board consists of Will MacAskill, Tasha McCauley, Claire Zabel, Owen Cotton-Barratt, and Nick Beckstead. The EVF US board consists of Nick Beckstead, Rebecca Kagan, and Nicole Ross. Given their ties to the FTX Foundation and Future Fund, Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead are recused from discussions and decision-making that relate to FTX, [4]  as they have been since early November.    Will MacAskill and Nick Beckstead had significant enough ties to FTX to be recused from EVF FTX-related decision-making, a significant and legally complex element of the boards' current responsibilities. Claire Zabel oversees significant grant-making to EVF organizations through her role at Open Phil, some of which have come under fire. While it is common for funders to serve on boards, it is not  ...   (See More – 71 more words)
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<div><div><p><figure></figure></p><p>Imagine you could have any skill in the world with just a few dozen hours of effort. This is what hiring allows you to do and it's a neglected skill in the EA movement.</p><p>I don’t know how to code, yet “I’ve” built the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/JTZTBienqWEAjGDRv/listen-to-more-ea-content-with-the-nonlinear-library">Nonlinear Library</a> and <a href="https://super-linear.org/">Superlinear</a> (an x-risk prize platform). I had no experience in Indian politics but “I” was able to <a href="https://www.suvita.org/">help Indian states update their policies to increase vaccination rates</a>. </p><p>Because you don’t have to learn how to code or develop decades of experience in a particular political arena. You can just hire people who already have those skills or experiences, and in fact, are probably better than you’d ever have gotten.</p><p>It’s one of the highest leverage meta-skills you can develop, especially when combined with fundraising. This is why it was a top contender for my <u><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gjcvSy2XmBw2Eobra/the-most-important-lesson-i-learned-after-ten-years-in-ea">most important “lesson learned” in my last decade in EA</a></u> and we’re incubating an EA hiring agency to make it so it takes even less time to hire people (<u><a href="https://airtable.com/shr6jq4xBkdvzid1t">they’re accepting clients now!</a></u>) </p><p>It is also one of the things I get asked for advice on the most frequently, so perfect for a blog post. So, without further ado, read on for a very practical guide to hiring. </p><h2>Designing the right job</h2><p>You can’t hire the right person unless you have a clear idea of who the right person <em>is</em>. Don’t just pick a job title and work from there; instead, <strong>brainstorm a list of the specific tasks that you want your new hire to do, and then choose a job title that fits.</strong></p><p>This also makes it clearer to <em>you</em> what you’re looking for. If you think that you want to hire an executive assistant but find yourself listing mostly research tasks, maybe you really want to hire a research assistant instead. Or perhaps you actually want to hire for two or three different roles.</p><h2>Getting great applicants </h2><h3>Write an enticing job ad</h3><p>Job advertisements are neglected relative to other aspects of hiring. Everyone knows that interviews are important, but <strong>you won’t get lots of good candidates to interview unless they see and respond to your job ad.</strong> The more people who apply, the more likely you are to find a great fit. Your job ad should have:</p><ul><li><strong>A fantastic title </strong></li></ul><p><strong>The title is the most important part of any piece of writing</strong>. This is doubly true for job ads since they’re posted alongside hundreds of other jobs on job boards, or (worse) on social media, where they have to compete against Oscar drama, apocalyptic news stories, and <u><a href="https://twitter.com/thomas_mock/status/1318922782672125952">cute red pandas</a></u> for your would-be applicants’ fractured attention. This means that your title needs to be <em>interesting</em>. </p><p><figure></figure></p><p>(<u><a href="https://twitter.com/ellegist/status/1508132109432537099">The writers of the Guardian Experience column have <em>nailed</em> this skill</a></u>, we can only bow down in wonder and awe.) Here’s a <u><a href="https://copyblogger.com/writing-headlines-that-get-results/">great resource for writing intriguing and useful headlines</a></u>. </p><ul><li><strong>A gripping first sentence </strong></li></ul><p><strong>The <u><a href="https://copyblogger.com/first-sentence/"><em>second </em>most important part of any piece of writing is the first sentence</a></u></strong>. A good template for your first sentence is:</p><p>‘If your dream job is to ____, _____, and ____, then you might be the perfect fit for [job].’</p><p>You should fill in the blanks with things that will attract people who would be a great fit for the role, while repelling people who wouldn’t. For example, in my ad for the EA hiring agency, I wrote:</p><p>‘If your dream job is to work in longtermism, be your own boss, and talk to EAs all day, then you might be the perfect fit for starting an EA recruitment agency through Nonlinear’s incubation program.’</p><p>I know lots of EAs who would get excited at ‘work in longtermism’ (‘improving the long term future! Sign me up!’) but recoil in terror at ‘talk to EAs all day’ (‘talking?! To people??! Ugh!’) And that’s great! People who don’t love talking would not be a great fit for this particular job. Your first sentence should reel in candidates who’d be perfect for the job, while gently turning away those who wouldn’t. </p><ul><li><strong>Enticing language </strong></li></ul><p>Get potential candidates excited to apply by telling them what they’ll love about the job. For example:</p><p>‘You’ll be a great fit for this role if:</p><p>-You love____</p><p>-You’d be excited to ___</p><p>-You’re passionate about ___</p><p>If you don’t like these things, bear in mind that there’s almost always <em>someone</em> out there who would be genuinely excited to do the role, even if that person isn’t you.</p><ul><li><strong>Pictures</strong></li></ul><p>An interesting picture will make your job ad stand out - you can design one very easily on <u><a href="https://www.canva.com/en_gb/">Canva.</a></u> It’s very important to make sure that the image looks good and is the right size for the platform it’s being posted on.</p><ul><li><strong>A clear, specific deadline</strong></li></ul><p>State the application deadline at the top and bottom of the ad and include the date, the <em>exact</em> time, and the time zone (e.g. ‘Applications are due by April 28th, 11.59 pm, EST’). This prevents needless angst about ‘it’s April 28th, but do they mean <em>before</em> the 28th or by the <em>end</em> of the 28th? By <em>my</em> midnight or <em>their</em> midnight?’</p><br /><h3>Make sure people see your job ad </h3><p><strong>You can’t hire great people if they don’t know that you’re hiring</strong>, so post your job ad liberally.</p><p>Many EAs will just post their ads on the EA Forum and call it a day. This isn’t enough. You should post your job ad, <em>at least</em> on:</p><ul><li>The <u><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1062957250383195">Effective Altruism Job Postings</a></u> Facebook group</li><li>The <u><a href="https://80000hours.org/job-board/">80,000 Hours job board</a></u></li><li>Twitter. You can tag <u><a href="https://twitter.com/effective_jobs">@effective_jobs</a></u>, which will share it with other EA job-seekers. (Of note, there’s an active prize out for somebody with dev skills to make a job board based on this. <u><a href="https://www.super-linear.org/prize?recordId=recSFgbnu7VzAHCqY&amp;fbclid=IwAR1qBezPqSdH9LcdcENXmwJFEDUMYqTGrRqaKiEp8GeZQxTEUnz1Z8vlSSs">More information here</a></u> for somebody looking to put their coding knowledge to EA use.)</li><li>In EA Facebook groups about topics related to the role. For example, if you’re hiring a writer or copyeditor, you could post it in <u><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/458111434360997/">Effective Altruism Editing and Review</a></u>; or if you’re an animal advocacy organization, you could post it to <u><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/EffectiveAnimalAdvocacy/">Effective Animal Advocacy</a></u>. <u><a href="https://www.facebook.com/EffectiveGroups/posts/1640942109260362">Here’s a directory of EA-related Facebook groups.</a></u></li></ul><p><strong>Don’t worry too much about ‘spamming’ people.</strong> You probably feel way spammier than you are. Most people won’t regularly look at all the places you post the ad, so they’ll only see it once or twice. And anyway, even if some people do see your ad five times, are they really going to care? I’d rather hear about a great job opportunity five times than not hear about it at all. </p><p>Generally speaking, the two keys to avoiding spamming people are:</p><ul><li><strong>Post sparingly for each audience.</strong> Generally aim to just post once for each audience. Sometimes it can be good to post a few weeks later, the day before the deadline, reminding people that the deadline is coming up and it’s not too late. Post a second time only on the highest value channels. If you post three times to the exact same audience about the same job, that’s too much.</li><li><strong>Post <em>relevant </em>job ads. </strong>If you’re hiring an AI safety researcher and you post on an AI alignment Facebook group, that’s perfect. They’ll thank you for it. However, if you post it in an EA animal welfare Facebook group, that’s not providing much or any value to the audience and will make people irritated with you.</li></ul><br /><h3>Ask your friends to refer you potential candidates </h3><p>Ask people to refer you candidates for the job. Consider asking people who are well-connected in the field in which you’re hiring, (e.g., if you’re hiring a software developer, ask developer friends) or people who just have a large network or anyone else you think would have good taste or special insight. </p><p>When you ask people for referrals, it’s most effective to:</p><ul><li>Ask them a direct question, and</li><li>Make your ask low-stakes. </li></ul><p>So, </p><p>‘Hey, I’m hiring for X! Does anyone come to mind for this role? We’re just collecting names right now.’</p><p>is better than</p><p>‘Let me know if you know of anyone who’d be a great fit for this role.’</p><p>Asking direct questions puts the ball in their court - questions demand answers, and if they’re going to have to answer you anyway, they might as well spend a minute brainstorming potential candidates before they do.</p><p>Asking ‘does anyone come to mind’ makes it easier for people to give you names. If you ask ‘who might be a great fit?’, then they’ll have to umm and ahh: ‘I mean I think X might be <em>good</em>, but would they really be a <em>great</em> fit?’</p><br /><h2>Choosing the right person</h2><p>OK, let’s say thousands of people saw your job ad, and now you have hundreds of applicants. Now what? How do you narrow them down? I recommend assessing candidates in multiple stages, filtering some out at each stage. The stages are: application form, then test task, then interview. You can also add a <em>second</em> test task and/or a second interview if you need more information and it’s a particularly high-stakes role.<br /></p><h3>The application form should let you rank candidates quickly </h3><p>If you have lots of applications, you can quickly rank candidates by including questions where candidates have to check boxes or rank themselves on a scale. For example, when I’ve hired for positions where EA knowledge was crucial, I’ve asked candidates to rate their EA knowledge on a scale of 1-5. This way, you can easily sort candidates: you can rule out the lowest-ranked candidates if appropriate, and look at the applications of the highest-ranked ones first. </p><p>After this, ask your candidates to write a short paragraph, which you can use to sort them again. These answers will take longer to sort but will give you a lot more information than a simple number. </p><br /><h3>Ask teammates to help you sort the applications</h3><p>I recommend asking two junior teammates to help with ranking candidates. This will save you time and give your colleagues valuable hiring experience. Alternatively, you can work with a <u><a href="https://second-bellflower-54f.notion.site/EA-Hiring-Agency-0d6d75a0f5934455be9003fd7886d537">hiring agency to filter out candidates in the first round</a></u>. </p><p>For example, ask your colleagues to read the applications and think about whether the candidate should go on to the next stage of the hiring process, and then rank the applications on a 5-point scale according to the answers:</p><p>5 = hard yes (i.e., ‘yes they should go on to the next stage’)</p><p>4 = soft yes (i.e. ‘maybe they should go on to the next stage’)</p><p>3 = uncertain</p><p>2 = soft no </p><p>1 = hard no (i.e., ‘no, they should not go on to the next stage’)</p><p>If both teammates give a candidate a 4 or 5, they automatically go on to the next stage. If both give a candidate a 1 or 2, they automatically do not. If a candidate has a 3, or the teammates disagree on their rankings, you act as tie-breaker.</p><br /><h3>Test tasks should be as similar as possible to the actual job</h3><p>Test tasks allow candidates to directly demonstrate their skills. This means that they should imitate what the new hire will actually be doing. If possible, just give them a piece of work to do - for example, if you’re hiring an editor, ask them to edit something. </p><p>Sometimes this won’t be possible. In these cases, simulate what the new hire’s job will be like as best you can. For example, when I was hiring for the <u><a href="https://second-bellflower-54f.notion.site/EA-Hiring-Agency-0d6d75a0f5934455be9003fd7886d537">EA hiring agency</a></u>, I asked candidates to interview <em>me</em> for a (pretend) job, since that’s what the role would involve.</p><br /><h3>Give clear instructions</h3><p>Make sure that the instructions for the test task are extremely clear. Include a checklist of everything that the candidates need to do, even if some of it seems obvious. This will help avoid wasteful misunderstandings.</p><p>It’s also informative if candidates <em>don’t</em> follow the instructions correctly. People are usually trying their best on job applications, so if they make mistakes in the application, they’d likely make similar mistakes in the job as well.</p><br /><h3>The interview</h3><h4>Put candidates at ease by asking ‘why do you want this job?’</h4><p>Job interviews are stressful, and no one is at their best when they’re stressed, so it’s important to help your candidates relax. You can start the interview by asking ‘Why do you want this job?’ - this is a common, unsurprising interview question, so it’s unlikely to freak anyone out. You can also use interviewees’ answers to know what to highlight about the job - for example, if they say that they want the job because they love trying to solve complex problems, you can emphasize the problem-solving aspects of the role. </p><h4>Craft questions that revealed desired qualities</h4><p><strong>Brainstorm what your ideal hire would be like, and keep these qualities in mind when you craft your interview questions. </strong>You can use <em><u><a href="https://www.amazon.com/High-Impact-Interview-Questions-Behavior-Based-Person/dp/0814473016?sa-no-redirect=1">High Impact Interview Questions</a></u></em> for inspiration. It has questions that are designed to assess many different workplace competencies, such as communication, problem-solving, and teamwork.</p><p>Craft your questions so that it’s not embarrassing or difficult for candidates to admit that they <em>don’t</em> have the personal qualities that you are looking for. If you’re trying to work out whether a potential hire is comfortable taking risks, you shouldn’t ask ‘are you more of a risk-taker, or are you more of a quivering mound of jelly who wets themself at the first whiff of adversity?’ Ask what they’d do in a situation where a more daring approach <em>and</em> a more cautious approach <em>both</em> seem reasonable! For example ‘are you somebody who likes to jump head first into a problem or do you hold more of the philosophy of looking before you leap?’</p><h4>Avoid conflict-prone people like the plague</h4><p>For most personality traits, whether or not they’re desirable depends on the job; but almost everyone should <strong>try not to hire people who tend to cause conflicts.</strong> Occasional conflicts are unavoidable, but if a person seems to cause drama and upheaval wherever they go, run a thousand miles in the opposite direction, even if they seem otherwise talented. Their drama won’t just affect their work; it’ll leak out everywhere and affect the whole organization.</p><h4>Don’t make an offer during an interview </h4><p>Once I was so enthusiastic about a candidate that I offered them the job right then and there in the interview. But then, I interviewed the next candidate… and they were <em>so</em> much better! Don’t make the same mistake! This is the archetypical secretary problem. Don’t prematurely exploit.</p><h4>Record interviews</h4><p>It’s useful to record your interviews. This way, you can share them with others on your team to get other perspectives. Also, if your new hire leaves the organization, you can re-watch their interview and see whether you could have predicted this at the interview stage. </p><h4>Evaluate questions as you go along</h4><p>Make sure that your questions are actually sorting people. If everyone gives the same answer to a question, it’s useless to you, and you should tweak it or remove it.</p><h4>Consider using a hiring agency</h4><p>Why not hire out the hiring? Hiring usually takes anywhere from a dozen to over one hundred person-hours and months start-to-finish. It also requires a lot of hard-to-articulate social intuitions and an appetite for talking to people that the average introverted EA is less than thrilled about. </p><p>Hiring agencies allow you to outsource varying degrees of the work to people who specialize in it. For example, <u><a href="https://pineappleoperations.org/">Pineapple Operations</a></u> by our very own Holly Morgan provides you with a list of pre-vetted PAs you can hire, allowing you to skip promoting the job ad and the first round of vetting. Others, such as the new <u><a href="https://second-bellflower-54f.notion.site/EA-Hiring-Agency-0d6d75a0f5934455be9003fd7886d537">EA Hiring Agency</a></u> (working title), can do custom amounts of work for you, ranging from just hopping on a quick advisory call to doing the full hiring process up until the very end, just sending you a shortlist of the top 3-5 candidates along with their recorded interviews, scorecards, and test tasks. </p><p>Not only do they save you time, but since hiring agencies specialize in the area of hiring, they can often do far better than you would. For example, despite me being quite experienced at hiring, the EA Hiring Agency is handling the hiring process for our Executive Assistant and they more than doubled the number of people who applied for the role compared to previous rounds.</p><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>This is a long post but still far from comprehensive. If you want to skill up more on hiring, I recommend the following:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.animaladvocacycareers.org/post/a-brief-overview-of-recruitment-and-retention-research?fbclid=IwAR1LbKpJnT6M0pLMqomxDiQLYZ_6lhA6L1BLfArj9xLRGKIsIlE2J71S70w">This amazing research on hiring by AAC</a></u>. Probably the single best resource I’ve ever read on hiring. Their tables are drool-worthy</li><li><u><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/d3cupMrngEArCygNk/takeaways-from-eaf-s-hiring-round-1">Takeaways from EAF’s hiring round</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Geoff-Smart-Author-Randy-Street/dp/B002VLL5AK">Who</a></u>, a great, easy read on hiring</li><li><a href="https://www.goodjobdescription.com/">Read a lot of good job descriptions</a>. Keep a "swipe file" of your favorite descriptions that you can use or modify for new jobs. </li><li><u><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YGBgWfLqeqCCWfnmK/hiring-process-and-takeaways-from-fish-welfare-initiative">Takeaways from FWI’s hiring round</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/hiring">EA Forum tag on hiring</a></u></li><li>Having a consultation call with the <u><a href="https://second-bellflower-54f.notion.site/EA-Hiring-Agency-0d6d75a0f5934455be9003fd7886d537">EA Hiring Agency</a></u> to get specific advice tailored to your situation</li></ul><p>Leave other tips or resources in the comments. </p><p><em>Reminder that if this reaches 25 upvotes,</em> <em><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/JTZTBienqWEAjGDRv/listen-to-more-ea-content-with-the-nonlinear-library">you can listen to this post on your podcast player</a></em> <em>using</em> <em><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/JTZTBienqWEAjGDRv/listen-to-more-ea-content-with-the-nonlinear-library">the Nonlinear Library</a>.</em></p><p><em>This post was written collaboratively by Kat Woods and Amber Dawn Ace as part of Nonlinear’s experimental Writing Internship program. The ideas are Kat’s; Kat explained them to Amber, and Amber wrote them up. We would like to offer this service to other EAs who want to share their as-yet unwritten ideas or expertise.</em></p><p><strong><em>If you would be interested in working with Amber to write up your ideas, fill out</em></strong><a href="https://forms.gle/g1dXj5CDtEt74fWx9"> <em><strong><u>this form</u></strong></em></a><em>.</em></p></div>||||I|||| This website requires javascript to properly function. Consider activating javascript to get access to all site functionality.

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 Perhaps the highest leverage meta-skill: an EA guide to hiring

 by Kat Woods , Amber Dawn 12 min read 22nd Aug 2022 9 comments

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 Perhaps the highest leverage meta-skill: an EA guide to hiring
 Designing the right job
 Getting great applicants
 Write an enticing job ad
 Make sure people see your job ad
 Ask your friends to refer you potential candidates
 Choosing the right person
 The application form should let you rank candidates quickly
 Ask teammates to help you sort the applications
 Test tasks should be as similar as possible to the actual job
 Give clear instructions
 The interview
 Put candidates at ease by asking ‘why do you want this job?’
 Craft questions that revealed desired qualities
 Avoid conflict-prone people like the plague
 Don’t make an offer during an interview
 Record interviews
 Evaluate questions as you go along
 Consider using a hiring agency
 Conclusion
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 Imagine you could have any skill in the world with just a few dozen hours of effort. This is what hiring allows you to do and it's a neglected skill in the EA movement.

 I don’t know how to code, yet “I’ve” built the Nonlinear Library and Superlinear (an x-risk prize platform). I had no experience in Indian politics but “I” was able to help Indian states update their policies to increase vaccination rates.

 Because you don’t have to learn how to code or develop decades of experience in a particular political arena. You can just hire people who already have those skills or experiences, and in fact, are probably better than you’d ever have gotten.

 It’s one of the highest leverage meta-skills you can develop, especially when combined with fundraising. This is why it was a top contender for my most important “lesson learned” in my last decade in EA and we’re incubating an EA hiring agency to make it so it takes even less time to hire people (they’re accepting clients now!)

 It is also one of the things I get asked for advice on the most frequently, so perfect for a blog post. So, without further ado, read on for a very practical guide to hiring.

 Designing the right job

 You can’t hire the right person unless you have a clear idea of who the right person is. Don’t just pick a job title and work from there; instead, brainstorm a list of the specific tasks that you want your new hire to do, and then choose a job title that fits.

 This also makes it clearer to you what you’re looking for. If you think that you want to hire an executive assistant but find yourself listing mostly research tasks, maybe you really want to hire a research assistant instead. Or perhaps you actually want to hire for two or three different roles.

 Getting great applicants

 Write an enticing job ad

 Job advertisements are neglected relative to other aspects of hiring. Everyone knows that interviews are important, but you won’t get lots of good candidates to interview unless they see and respond to your job ad. The more people who apply, the more likely you are to find a great fit. Your job ad should have:

 * A fantastic title

 The title is the most important part of any piece of writing. This is doubly true for job ads since they’re posted alongside hundreds of other jobs on job boards, or (worse) on social media, where they have to compete against Oscar drama, apocalyptic news stories, and cute red pandas for your would-be applicants’ fractured attention. This means that your title needs to be interesting.


 (The writers of the Guardian Experience column have nailed this skill, we can only bow down in wonder and awe.) Here’s a great resource for writing intriguing and useful headlines.

 * A gripping first sentence

 The second most important part of any piece of writing is the first sentence. A good template for your first sentence is:

 ‘If your dream job is to ____, _____, and ____, then you might be the perfect fit for [job].’

 You should fill in the blanks with things that will attract people who would be a great fit for the role, while repelling people who wouldn’t. For example, in my ad for the EA hiring agency, I wrote:

 ‘If your dream job is to work in longtermism, be your own boss, and talk to EAs all day, then you might be the perfect fit for starting an EA recruitment agency through Nonlinear’s incubation program.’

 I know lots of EAs who would get excited at ‘work in longtermism’ (‘improving the long term future! Sign me up!’) but recoil in terror at ‘talk to EAs all day’ (‘talking?! To people??! Ugh!’) And that’s great! People who don’t love talking would not be a great fit for this particular job. Your first sentence should reel in candidates who’d be perfect for the job, while gently turning away those who wouldn’t.

 * Enticing language

 Get potential candidates excited to apply by telling them what they’ll love about the job. For example:

 ‘You’ll be a great fit for this role if:

 -You love____

 -You’d be excited to ___

 -You’re passionate about ___

 If you don’t like these things, bear in mind that there’s almost always someone out there who would be genuinely excited to do the role, even if that person isn’t you.

 * Pictures

 An interesting picture will make your job ad stand out - you can design one very easily on Canva. It’s very important to make sure that the image looks good and is the right size for the platform it’s being posted on.

 * A clear, specific deadline

 State the application deadline at the top and bottom of the ad and include the date, the exact time, and the time zone (e.g. ‘Applications are due by April 28th, 11.59 pm, EST’). This prevents needless angst about ‘it’s April 28th, but do they mean before the 28th or by the end of the 28th? By my midnight or their midnight?’


 Make sure people see your job ad

 You can’t hire great people if they don’t know that you’re hiring, so post your job ad liberally.

 Many EAs will just post their ads on the EA Forum and call it a day. This isn’t enough. You should post your job ad, at least on:

 * The Effective Altruism Job Postings Facebook group
 * The 80,000 Hours job board
 * Twitter. You can tag @effective_jobs, which will share it with other EA job-seekers. (Of note, there’s an active prize out for somebody with dev skills to make a job board based on this. More information here for somebody looking to put their coding knowledge to EA use.)
 * In EA Facebook groups about topics related to the role. For example, if you’re hiring a writer or copyeditor, you could post it in Effective Altruism Editing and Review; or if you’re an animal advocacy organization, you could post it to Effective Animal Advocacy. Here’s a directory of EA-related Facebook groups.

 Don’t worry too much about ‘spamming’ people. You probably feel way spammier than you are. Most people won’t regularly look at all the places you post the ad, so they’ll only see it once or twice. And anyway, even if some people do see your ad five times, are they really going to care? I’d rather hear about a great job opportunity five times than not hear about it at all.

 Generally speaking, the two keys to avoiding spamming people are:

 * Post sparingly for each audience. Generally aim to just post once for each audience. Sometimes it can be good to post a few weeks later, the day before the deadline, reminding people that the deadline is coming up and it’s not too late. Post a second time only on the highest value channels. If you post three times to the exact same audience about the same job, that’s too much.
 * Post relevant job ads. If you’re hiring an AI safety researcher and you post on an AI alignment Facebook group, that’s perfect. They’ll thank you for it. However, if you post it in an EA animal welfare Facebook group, that’s not providing much or any value to the audience and will make people irritated with you.


 Ask your friends to refer you potential candidates

 Ask people to refer you candidates for the job. Consider asking people who are well-connected in the field in which you’re hiring, (e.g., if you’re hiring a software developer, ask developer friends) or people who just have a large network or anyone else you think would have good taste or special insight.

 When you ask people for referrals, it’s most effective to:

 * Ask them a direct question, and
 * Make your ask low-stakes.

 So,

 ‘Hey, I’m hiring for X! Does anyone come to mind for this role? We’re just collecting names right now.’

 is better than

 ‘Let me know if you know of anyone who’d be a great fit for this role.’

 Asking direct questions puts the ball in their court - questions demand answers, and if they’re going to have to answer you anyway, they might as well spend a minute brainstorming potential candidates before they do.

 Asking ‘does anyone come to mind’ makes it easier for people to give you names. If you ask ‘who might be a great fit?’, then they’ll have to umm and ahh: ‘I mean I think X might be good, but would they really be a great fit?’


 Choosing the right person

 OK, let’s say thousands of people saw your job ad, and now you have hundreds of applicants. Now what? How do you narrow them down? I recommend assessing candidates in multiple stages, filtering some out at each stage. The stages are: application form, then test task, then interview. You can also add a second test task and/or a second interview if you need more information and it’s a particularly high-stakes role.

 The application form should let you rank candidates quickly

 If you have lots of applications, you can quickly rank candidates by including questions where candidates have to check boxes or rank themselves on a scale. For example, when I’ve hired for positions where EA knowledge was crucial, I’ve asked candidates to rate their EA knowledge on a scale of 1-5. This way, you can easily sort candidates: you can rule out the lowest-ranked candidates if appropriate, and look at the applications of the highest-ranked ones first.

 After this, ask your candidates to write a short paragraph, which you can use to sort them again. These answers will take longer to sort but will give you a lot more information than a simple number.


 Ask teammates to help you sort the applications

 I recommend asking two junior teammates to help with ranking candidates. This will save you time and give your colleagues valuable hiring experience. Alternatively, you can work with a hiring agency to filter out candidates in the first round.

 For example, ask your colleagues to read the applications and think about whether the candidate should go on to the next stage of the hiring process, and then rank the applications on a 5-point scale according to the answers:

 5 = hard yes (i.e., ‘yes they should go on to the next stage’)

 4 = soft yes (i.e. ‘maybe they should go on to the next stage’)

 3 = uncertain

 2 = soft no

 1 = hard no (i.e., ‘no, they should not go on to the next stage’)

 If both teammates give a candidate a 4 or 5, they automatically go on to the next stage. If both give a candidate a 1 or 2, they automatically do not. If a candidate has a 3, or the teammates disagree on their rankings, you act as tie-breaker.


 Test tasks should be as similar as possible to the actual job

 Test tasks allow candidates to directly demonstrate their skills. This means that they should imitate what the new hire will actually be doing. If possible, just give them a piece of work to do - for example, if you’re hiring an editor, ask them to edit something.

 Sometimes this won’t be possible. In these cases, simulate what the new hire’s job will be like as best you can. For example, when I was hiring for the EA hiring agency, I asked candidates to interview me for a (pretend) job, since that’s what the role would involve.


 Give clear instructions

 Make sure that the instructions for the test task are extremely clear. Include a checklist of everything that the candidates need to do, even if some of it seems obvious. This will help avoid wasteful misunderstandings.

 It’s also informative if candidates don’t follow the instructions correctly. People are usually trying their best on job applications, so if they make mistakes in the application, they’d likely make similar mistakes in the job as well.


 The interview

 Put candidates at ease by asking ‘why do you want this job?’

 Job interviews are stressful, and no one is at their best when they’re stressed, so it’s important to help your candidates relax. You can start the interview by asking ‘Why do you want this job?’ - this is a common, unsurprising interview question, so it’s unlikely to freak anyone out. You can also use interviewees’ answers to know what to highlight about the job - for example, if they say that they want the job because they love trying to solve complex problems, you can emphasize the problem-solving aspects of the role.

 Craft questions that revealed desired qualities

 Brainstorm what your ideal hire would be like, and keep these qualities in mind when you craft your interview questions. You can use High Impact Interview Questions for inspiration. It has questions that are designed to assess many different workplace competencies, such as communication, problem-solving, and teamwork.

 Craft your questions so that it’s not embarrassing or difficult for candidates to admit that they don’t have the personal qualities that you are looking for. If you’re trying to work out whether a potential hire is comfortable taking risks, you shouldn’t ask ‘are you more of a risk-taker, or are you more of a quivering mound of jelly who wets themself at the first whiff of adversity?’ Ask what they’d do in a situation where a more daring approach and a more cautious approach both seem reasonable! For example ‘are you somebody who likes to jump head first into a problem or do you hold more of the philosophy of looking before you leap?’

 Avoid conflict-prone people like the plague

 For most personality traits, whether or not they’re desirable depends on the job; but almost everyone should try not to hire people who tend to cause conflicts. Occasional conflicts are unavoidable, but if a person seems to cause drama and upheaval wherever they go, run a thousand miles in the opposite direction, even if they seem otherwise talented. Their drama won’t just affect their work; it’ll leak out everywhere and affect the whole organization.

 Don’t make an offer during an interview

 Once I was so enthusiastic about a candidate that I offered them the job right then and there in the interview. But then, I interviewed the next candidate… and they were so much better! Don’t make the same mistake! This is the archetypical secretary problem. Don’t prematurely exploit.

 Record interviews

 It’s useful to record your interviews. This way, you can share them with others on your team to get other perspectives. Also, if your new hire leaves the organization, you can re-watch their interview and see whether you could have predicted this at the interview stage.

 Evaluate questions as you go along

 Make sure that your questions are actually sorting people. If everyone gives the same answer to a question, it’s useless to you, and you should tweak it or remove it.

 Consider using a hiring agency

 Why not hire out the hiring? Hiring usually takes anywhere from a dozen to over one hundred person-hours and months start-to-finish. It also requires a lot of hard-to-articulate social intuitions and an appetite for talking to people that the average introverted EA is less than thrilled about.

 Hiring agencies allow you to outsource varying degrees of the work to people who specialize in it. For example, Pineapple Operations by our very own Holly Morgan provides you with a list of pre-vetted PAs you can hire, allowing you to skip promoting the job ad and the first round of vetting. Others, such as the new EA Hiring Agency (working title), can do custom amounts of work for you, ranging from just hopping on a quick advisory call to doing the full hiring process up until the very end, just sending you a shortlist of the top 3-5 candidates along with their recorded interviews, scorecards, and test tasks.

 Not only do they save you time, but since hiring agencies specialize in the area of hiring, they can often do far better than you would. For example, despite me being quite experienced at hiring, the EA Hiring Agency is handling the hiring process for our Executive Assistant and they more than doubled the number of people who applied for the role compared to previous rounds.

 Conclusion

 This is a long post but still far from comprehensive. If you want to skill up more on hiring, I recommend the following:

 * This amazing research on hiring by AAC. Probably the single best resource I’ve ever read on hiring. Their tables are drool-worthy
 * Takeaways from EAF’s hiring round
 * Who, a great, easy read on hiring
 * Read a lot of good job descriptions. Keep a "swipe file" of your favorite descriptions that you can use or modify for new jobs.
 * Takeaways from FWI’s hiring round
 * EA Forum tag on hiring
 * Having a consultation call with the EA Hiring Agency to get specific advice tailored to your situation

 Leave other tips or resources in the comments.

 Reminder that if this reaches 25 upvotes, you can listen to this post on your podcast player using the Nonlinear Library.

 This post was written collaboratively by Kat Woods and Amber Dawn Ace as part of Nonlinear’s experimental Writing Internship program. The ideas are Kat’s; Kat explained them to Amber, and Amber wrote them up. We would like to offer this service to other EAs who want to share their as-yet unwritten ideas or expertise.

 If you would be interested in working with Amber to write up your ideas, fill out this form.

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 [ - ]Yonatan Cale 6mo 17

 Hey!

 I'm trying to do stuff to improve EA hiring [1, 2, 3, 4?, 5?, more coming], so first of all Hi!

 I like this post and plan to recommend it to others,

 I have small disagreements that I'll write here kind of as an excuse to make conversation:

 You said:

 Put candidates at ease by asking ‘why do you want this job?’

 I talk to lots of candidates, so from their perspective I can share that questions like this are often interpreted as "I need to impress the interviewer with my answer", especially in the application itself, but I assume also in interviews.

 You said:

 You can also use interviewees’ answers to know what to highlight about the job - for example, if they say that they want the job because they love trying to solve complex problems, you can emphasize the problem-solving aspects of the role.

 Continuing what I said before - you might be fitting your answers to how the candidate tried to impress you.

 I suggest an alternative to both of these:

 Something like "Do you have questions for us? This is supposed to be an opportunity for me to help you with things you're worried about, things you're not sure about regarding our company or how we work, and it's not a test or an interview question where you're supposed to impress us, I hope you'll ask what you actually care about" [phrased in your style, if you don't like mine]

 Part of why I'm saying this is that lots of candidates do have lots of uncertainties that make them afraid to even apply to a "wrong" company. A common piece of advice I give candidates is "ask the recruiter" [instead of, for example, researching 'what is it like to work in an EA org' before they apply to anything]. So I think many would appreciate the opportunity.

 Reminder that I really like your post and it also seems like you look at hiring from a different direction than I do, which is always interesting!

 :)

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 [ - ]Drew Spartz 6mo 13

 Highly recommend trying out the Top-Grading interview from Who.

 You go through a candidate's entire work history, from start to finish in chronological order, and ask these questions:

 1. What were you hired to do?
 2. What accomplishments are you most proud of?
 1. How did your performance compare to the previous year’s performance? (For example, this person achieved sales of $2 million and the previous year’s sales were only $150,000.)
 2. How did your performance compare to the plan? (For example, this person sold $2 million and the plan was $1.2 million.)
 3. How did your performance compare to that of peers?
 3. What were some low points during that job?
 4. Who were the people you worked with? Specifically:
 1. What was your boss’s name, and how do you spell that? What was it like working with him/her? What will they tell me were your biggest strengths and areas for improvement?
 5. Why did you leave that job?

 It's just a good, natural, flowing way of understanding what things people actually did instead of trying to give them hypothetical future scenarios of what they might do.

 It's also an efficient way of finding red flags 🚩 like:

 * Candidate does not mention past failures.
 * Candidate exaggerates his or her answers.
 * Candidate takes credit for the work of others.
 * Candidate speaks poorly of past bosses.
 * Candidate cannot explain job moves.
 * People most important to candidate are unsupportive of change.
 * Candidate seems more interested in compensation and benefits than in the job itself.
 * Candidate tries too hard to look like an expert.
 * Candidate is self-absorbed.
 * Winning too much
 * Telling the world how smart we are
 * Passing the buck
 * Making excuses
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 [ - ]Joseph Lemien 6mo 7

 If anyone is interested in using the topgrading method, the guy who invented/designed it wrote a whole book about it. It goes into more detail than Who, and if you really want to implement topgrading then it is very helpful.

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 [ - ]Drew Spartz 6mo 8

 This is super helpful, thanks!

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 [ - ]Richard Möhn 6mo 9

 <First sentence redacted.>

 The above article, too, contains many questionable pieces of advice. Just one example: ‘Craft your questions so that it’s not embarrassing or difficult for candidates to admit that they don’t have the personal qualities that you are looking for.’ So you're supposed to rely on candidates admitting that they are not right for the job? Take the article's example of risk-taking – why wouldn't you write in the job ad that risk-taking is required? Then the honest non-risk-takers can sort themselves out before going through the trouble of applying.

 What about those who don't sort themselves out? According to the article, you ask them a sort of trick question: ‘are you somebody who likes to jump head first into a problem or do you hold more of the philosophy of looking before you leap?’ This can work if you've successfully left the candidate in the dark on whether the job requires risk-taking. If the candidate knows that risk-taking is required and really wants the job (and who doesn't?), guess which of the two alternatives they will pick.

 Talking about going through the trouble of applying – the above article doesn't address the feedback about hiring that made a splash on this forum a while ago: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/jmbP9rwXncfa32seH/after-one-year-of-applying-for-ea-jobs-it-is-really-really I don't agree with the attitude of the latter article, but it does contain important points that ‘an EA Guide to Hiring’ would do well to address.

 Addendum – a better question to find out about a candidate's risk-taking. Say: ‘It's hard to have a big impact without taking risks. Tell me about a time when you had to choose between a safe and a risky course of action. What were your considerations, how did you implement your choice and how did it turn out?’ After they've given an answer, probe. Ask follow-up questions. Always about the past. If all you dig up is more details about successful risk-taking in the past, there's a good chance the candidate fulfills your risk-taking requirement. On the other hand, if they don't have done much risk-taking, you will find out quickly using this course of questioning. This is not to say that you should turn your desk lamp on them and play a Stalin-era interrogator. All the points about being extremely friendly and putting the candidate at ease still apply.

 Note to those who are downvoting this: Please describe your disagreements in a comment. Otherwise nobody can learn from them.

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 [ - ]Rebecca 5mo 6

 I personally find the phrase “dream job” quite off putting, and it makes me think the organisation/role will be unserious and dysfunctional. Would be interested to know how this compares to other people.

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 [ - ]Kirsten 5mo 6

 It just reads as "enthusiastic North American" to me. I agree it's not my preferred aesthetic.

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 [ - ]Richard Möhn 5mo 1

 I would read over it and not draw any conclusions about the organization. Although I don't think any job would match my dream job ever. So if I took all ‘dream job’ ads literally, I would have to stop reading them after the first sentence.

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 [ - ]Brennan.W 3mo 1

 Thank you for the very in depth post! I've had a lot of conversations about the subject myself over the past several months and considered writing a similarly themed post, but it's always nice to find that some very talented people have already done a fantastic job carefully considering the topic and organizing the ideas into a coherent piece :)

 On that note, I'm currently conducting a thesis on effective hiring / selection methods in social-mission startups with the hopes of creating a free toolkit to help facilitate recruitment in EA (and other impact-driven) orgs. If you have any bandwidth I'd love to learn more about your experience regarding the talent ecosystem in EA and see if I could better tailor my project to help address some of the gaps/opportunities you've identified

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Imagine you could have any skill in the world with just a few dozen hours of effort. This is what hiring allows you to do and it's a neglected skill in the EA movement. I don’t know how to code, yet “I’ve” built the Nonlinear Library and Superlinear (an x-risk prize platform). I had no experience in Indian politics but “I” was able to help Indian states update their policies to increase vaccination rates.  Because you don’t have to learn how to code or develop decades of experience in a particular political arena. You can just hire people who already have those skills or experiences, and in fact, are probably better than you’d ever have gotten. It’s one of the highest leverage meta-skills you can develop, especially when combined with fundraising. This is why it was a top contender for my  most important “lesson learned” in my last decade in EA  and we’re incubating an EA hiring agency to make it so it takes even less time to hire people ( they’re accepting clients now! )  It is also one of the things I get asked for advice on the most frequently, so perfect for a blog post. So, without further ado, read on for a very practical guide to hiring.  Designing the right job You can’t hire the right person unless you have a clear idea of who the right person is. Don’t just pick a job title and work from there; instead, brainstorm a list of the specific tasks that you want your new hire to do, and then choose a job title that fits.  This also makes it clearer to you what you’re looking for. If you think that you want to hire an executive assistant but find yourself listing mostly research tasks, maybe you really want to hire a research assistant instead. Or perhaps you actually want to hire for two or three different roles. Getting great applicants  Write an enticing job ad Job advertisements are neglected relative to other aspects of hiring. Everyone knows that interviews are important, but you won’t get lots of good candidates to interview unless they see and respond to your job ad. The more people who apply, the more likely you are to find a great fit. Your job ad should have:   A fantastic title     The title is the most important part of any piece of writing. This is doubly true for job ads since they’re posted alongside hundreds of other jobs on job boards, or (worse) on social media, where they have to compete against Oscar drama, apocalyptic news stories, and  cute red pandas  for your would-be applicants’ fractured attention. This means that your title needs to be interesting.      ( The writers of the Guardian Experience column have nailed this skill , we can only bow down in wonder and awe.) Here’s a  great resource for writing intriguing and useful headlines .    A gripping first sentence     The   second most important part of any piece of writing is the first sentence  . A good template for your first sentence is: ‘If your dream job is to ____, _____, and ____, then you might be the perfect fit for [job].’ You should fill in the blanks with things that will attract people who would be a great fit for the role, while repelling people who wouldn’t. For example, in my ad for the EA hiring agency, I wrote: ‘If your dream job is to work in longtermism, be your own boss, and talk to EAs all day, then you might be the perfect fit for starting an EA recruitment agency through Nonlinear’s incubation program.’ I know lots of EAs who would get excited at ‘work in longtermism’ (‘improving the long term future! Sign me up!’) but recoil in terror at ‘talk to EAs all day’ (‘talking?! To people??! Ugh!’) And that’s great! People who don’t love talking would not be a great fit for this particular job. Your first sentence should reel in candidates who’d be perfect for the job, while gently turning away those who wouldn’t.    Enticing language    Get potential candidates excited to apply by telling them what they’ll love about the job. For example: ‘You’ll be a great fit for this role if: -You love____ -You’d be excited to ___ -You’re passionate about ___ If you don’t like these things, bear in mind that there’s almost always someone out there who would be genuinely excited to do the role, even if that person isn’t you.   Pictures   An interesting picture will make your job ad stand out - you can design one very easily on  Canva.  It’s very important to make sure that the image looks good and is the right size for the platform it’s being posted on.   A clear, specific deadline   State the application deadline at the top and bottom of the ad and include the date, the exact time, and the time zone (e.g. ‘Applications are due by April 28th, 11.59 pm, EST’). This prevents needless angst about ‘it’s April 28th, but do they mean before the 28th or by the end of the 28th? By my midnight or their midnight?’  Make sure people see your job ad   You can’t hire great people if they don’t know that you’re hiring, so post your job ad liberally. Many EAs will just post their ads on the EA Forum and call it a day. This isn’t enough. You should post your job ad, at least on:  The  Effective Altruism Job Postings  Facebook group The  80,000 Hours job board   Twitter. You can tag  @effective_jobs , which will share it with other EA job-seekers. (Of note, there’s an active prize out for somebody with dev skills to make a job board based on this.  More information here  for somebody looking to put their coding knowledge to EA use.) In EA Facebook groups about topics related to the role. For example, if you’re hiring a writer or copyeditor, you could post it in  Effective Altruism Editing and Review ; or if you’re an animal advocacy organization, you could post it to  Effective Animal Advocacy .  Here’s a directory of EA-related Facebook groups.     Don’t worry too much about ‘spamming’ people. You probably feel way spammier than you are. Most people won’t regularly look at all the places you post the ad, so they’ll only see it once or twice. And anyway, even if some people do see your ad five times, are they really going to care? I’d rather hear about a great job opportunity five times than not hear about it at all.  Generally speaking, the two keys to avoiding spamming people are:   Post sparingly for each audience. Generally aim to just post once for each audience. Sometimes it can be good to post a few weeks later, the day before the deadline, reminding people that the deadline is coming up and it’s not too late. Post a second time only on the highest value channels. If you post three times to the exact same audience about the same job, that’s too much.  Post relevant job ads. If you’re hiring an AI safety researcher and you post on an AI alignment Facebook group, that’s perfect. They’ll thank you for it. However, if you post it in an EA animal welfare Facebook group, that’s not providing much or any value to the audience and will make people irritated with you.   Ask your friends to refer you potential candidates  Ask people to refer you candidates for the job. Consider asking people who are well-connected in the field in which you’re hiring, (e.g., if you’re hiring a software developer, ask developer friends) or people who just have a large network or anyone else you think would have good taste or special insight.  When you ask people for referrals, it’s most effective to:  Ask them a direct question, and Make your ask low-stakes.   So,  ‘Hey, I’m hiring for X! Does anyone come to mind for this role? We’re just collecting names right now.’ is better than ‘Let me know if you know of anyone who’d be a great fit for this role.’ Asking direct questions puts the ball in their court - questions demand answers, and if they’re going to have to answer you anyway, they might as well spend a minute brainstorming potential candidates before they do. Asking ‘does anyone come to mind’ makes it easier for people to give you names. If you ask ‘who might be a great fit?’, then they’ll have to umm and ahh: ‘I mean I think X might be good, but would they really be a great fit?’  Choosing the right person OK, let’s say thousands of people saw your job ad, and now you have hundreds of applicants. Now what? How do you narrow them down? I recommend assessing candidates in multiple stages, filtering some out at each stage. The stages are: application form, then test task, then interview. You can also add a second test task and/or a second interview if you need more information and it’s a particularly high-stakes role.  The application form should let you rank candidates quickly  If you have lots of applications, you can quickly rank candidates by including questions where candidates have to check boxes or rank themselves on a scale. For example, when I’ve hired for positions where EA knowledge was crucial, I’ve asked candidates to rate their EA knowledge on a scale of 1-5. This way, you can easily sort candidates: you can rule out the lowest-ranked candidates if appropriate, and look at the applications of the highest-ranked ones first.  After this, ask your candidates to write a short paragraph, which you can use to sort them again. These answers will take longer to sort but will give you a lot more information than a simple number.   Ask teammates to help you sort the applications I recommend asking two junior teammates to help with ranking candidates. This will save you time and give your colleagues valuable hiring experience. Alternatively, you can work with a  hiring agency to filter out candidates in the first round .  For example, ask your colleagues to read the applications and think about whether the candidate should go on to the next stage of the hiring process, and then rank the applications on a 5-point scale according to the answers: 5 = hard yes (i.e., ‘yes they should go on to the next stage’) 4 = soft yes (i.e. ‘maybe they should go on to the next stage’) 3 = uncertain 2 = soft no  1 = hard no (i.e., ‘no, they should not go on to the next stage’) If both teammates give a candidate a 4 or 5, they automatically go on to the next stage. If both give a candidate a 1 or 2, they automatically do not. If a candidate has a 3, or the teammates disagree on their rankings, you act as tie-breaker.  Test tasks should be as similar as possible to the actual job Test tasks allow candidates to directly demonstrate their skills. This means that they should imitate what the new hire will actually be doing. If possible, just give them a piece of work to do - for example, if you’re hiring an editor, ask them to edit something.  Sometimes this won’t be possible. In these cases, simulate what the new hire’s job will be like as best you can. For example, when I was hiring for the  EA hiring agency , I asked candidates to interview me for a (pretend) job, since that’s what the role would involve.  Give clear instructions Make sure that the instructions for the test task are extremely clear. Include a checklist of everything that the candidates need to do, even if some of it seems obvious. This will help avoid wasteful misunderstandings. It’s also informative if candidates don’t follow the instructions correctly. People are usually trying their best on job applications, so if they make mistakes in the application, they’d likely make similar mistakes in the job as well.  The interview Put candidates at ease by asking ‘why do you want this job?’ Job interviews are stressful, and no one is at their best when they’re stressed, so it’s important to help your candidates relax. You can start the interview by asking ‘Why do you want this job?’ - this is a common, unsurprising interview question, so it’s unlikely to freak anyone out. You can also use interviewees’ answers to know what to highlight about the job - for example, if they say that they want the job because they love trying to solve complex problems, you can emphasize the problem-solving aspects of the role.  Craft questions that revealed desired qualities  Brainstorm what your ideal hire would be like, and keep these qualities in mind when you craft your interview questions. You can use   High Impact Interview Questions   for inspiration. It has questions that are designed to assess many different workplace competencies, such as communication, problem-solving, and teamwork. Craft your questions so that it’s not embarrassing or difficult for candidates to admit that they don’t have the personal qualities that you are looking for. If you’re trying to work out whether a potential hire is comfortable taking risks, you shouldn’t ask ‘are you more of a risk-taker, or are you more of a quivering mound of jelly who wets themself at the first whiff of adversity?’ Ask what they’d do in a situation where a more daring approach and a more cautious approach both seem reasonable! For example ‘are you somebody who likes to jump head first into a problem or do you hold more of the philosophy of looking before you leap?’ Avoid conflict-prone people like the plague For most personality traits, whether or not they’re desirable depends on the job; but almost everyone should try not to hire people who tend to cause conflicts. Occasional conflicts are unavoidable, but if a person seems to cause drama and upheaval wherever they go, run a thousand miles in the opposite direction, even if they seem otherwise talented. Their drama won’t just affect their work; it’ll leak out everywhere and affect the whole organization. Don’t make an offer during an interview  Once I was so enthusiastic about a candidate that I offered them the job right then and there in the interview. But then, I interviewed the next candidate… and they were so much better! Don’t make the same mistake! This is the archetypical secretary problem. Don’t prematurely exploit. Record interviews It’s useful to record your interviews. This way, you can share them with others on your team to get other perspectives. Also, if your new hire leaves the organization, you can re-watch their interview and see whether you could have predicted this at the interview stage.  Evaluate questions as you go along Make sure that your questions are actually sorting people. If everyone gives the same answer to a question, it’s useless to you, and you should tweak it or remove it. Consider using a hiring agency Why not hire out the hiring? Hiring usually takes anywhere from a dozen to over one hundred person-hours and months start-to-finish. It also requires a lot of hard-to-articulate social intuitions and an appetite for talking to people that the average introverted EA is less than thrilled about.  Hiring agencies allow you to outsource varying degrees of the work to people who specialize in it. For example,  Pineapple Operations  by our very own Holly Morgan provides you with a list of pre-vetted PAs you can hire, allowing you to skip promoting the job ad and the first round of vetting. Others, such as the new  EA Hiring Agency  (working title), can do custom amounts of work for you, ranging from just hopping on a quick advisory call to doing the full hiring process up until the very end, just sending you a shortlist of the top 3-5 candidates along with their recorded interviews, scorecards, and test tasks.  Not only do they save you time, but since hiring agencies specialize in the area of hiring, they can often do far better than you would. For example, despite me being quite experienced at hiring, the EA Hiring Agency is handling the hiring process for our Executive Assistant and they more than doubled the number of people who applied for the role compared to previous rounds. Conclusion This is a long post but still far from comprehensive. If you want to skill up more on hiring, I recommend the following:    This amazing research on hiring by AAC . Probably the single best resource I’ve ever read on hiring. Their tables are drool-worthy   Takeaways from EAF’s hiring round     Who , a great, easy read on hiring  Read a lot of good job descriptions. Keep a "swipe file" of your favorite descriptions that you can use or modify for new jobs.    Takeaways from FWI’s hiring round     EA Forum tag on hiring   Having a consultation call with the  EA Hiring Agency  to get specific advice tailored to your situation  Leave other tips or resources in the comments.   Reminder that if this reaches 25 upvotes,  you can listen to this post on your podcast player  using  the Nonlinear Library.   This post was written collaboratively by Kat Woods and Amber Dawn Ace as part of Nonlinear’s experimental Writing Internship program. The ideas are Kat’s; Kat explained them to Amber, and Amber wrote them up. We would like to offer this service to other EAs who want to share their as-yet unwritten ideas or expertise.    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<div><div><p><strong>Posted on Friday, November 5th 2021</strong><br/><em>(last updated Tuesday, November 9th 2021)</em></p><div><p>The <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/">Effective Altruism Forum</a> aims to be the central place for collaborative discussion about how to do the most good. This post summarizes our growth over the last year.</p>
<h3>Metric status</h3>
<p>Hours of engagement are up by 100.2% year-over-year as of October 1. This meets our target of 100%, and means we’ve doubled engagement hours this year.</p>
<p>We weren't tracking this metric until 2020, but based on other data we have, we estimate that the previous year's growth rate was 90%, for two-year growth of ~380%.</p>
<p></p>
<p>This chart shows daily engagement hours for 2020 (yellow) and 2021 (blue). The red line shows our daily "target" (the numbers we'd need to hit to reach 100% YoY growth if our engagement grew linearly).</p>
<p>We'll also share our graph for monthly active users (people who viewed at least one page while logged in):</p>
<p></p>
<p>We went from 727 MAUs in 10/2019 to 1140 in 10/2020 and 1954 in 10/2021.</p>
<h3>Progress this quarter</h3>
<p>Key progress:</p>
<ul>
<li>We onboarded 2 new engineers: <a href="https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/team/sarah-cheng/">Sarah Cheng</a> and <a href="https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/team/jonathan-mustin/">Jonathan Mustin</a>.</li>
<li>We published the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/community">community and events page</a> and hired a contractor to make sure the list of events is up to date every week.</li>
<li>We cross-posted hundreds of older articles from EA sources to the Forum, to make them taggable and searchable within the site. This includes blog posts from Open Philanthropy, papers from the Global Priorities Institute, and podcast transcripts from 80,000 Hours.</li>
<li>We helped <a href="https://www.openphilanthropy.org/about/team/holden-karnofsky">Holden Karnofsky</a> cross-post a series of successful posts from his Cold Takes blog, starting with <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/TwQzyP3QgttmuTHym/all-possible-views-about-humanity-s-future-are-wild">this one</a>.</li>
<li>We launched a <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/JFiHewypFB2niuy2G/ea-forum-creative-writing-contest-usd10-000-in-prizes-for">creative writing contest</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>Other progress:</p>
<ul>
<li>We implemented several new <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HKkPWQrw4E3dkfJqC/forum-update-new-features-october-2021">user-visible features</a>:
<ul>
<li>Post analytics</li>
<li>Forum Digest subscription reminder</li>
<li>Sidebar banner</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>We got <a href="https://www.cypress.io/">Cypress testing</a> working, with a handful of initial tests. This won’t have a direct impact on users, but will make it easier for us to test our code. This was a large project – LessWrong <a href="https://github.com/LessWrong2/Lesswrong2/pull/1579">started working on it</a> over 2 years ago.</li>
<li>~150 people have ordered books from the <a href="https://airtable.com/shr6KgESHHZcc5rYH">order link</a> we posted in the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cN9Zu7dowefAfmNnH/the-effective-altruism-handbook">EA Handbook</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Reflections</h3>
<p>I estimate that engineering output tripled in September (e.g. all three of the user-visible features I mentioned were released in September.) This is in line with the tripling of team size. Given that Sarah just started this month, I’m pretty happy with that increase in productivity, though I also think that I could have made the onboarding process even smoother.</p></div></div></div>||||I|||| EA Forum engagement doubled in the last year

 Posted on Friday, November 5th 2021
 (last updated Tuesday, November 9th 2021)

 The Effective Altruism Forum aims to be the central place for collaborative discussion about how to do the most good. This post summarizes our growth over the last year.

 Metric status

 Hours of engagement are up by 100.2% year-over-year as of October 1. This meets our target of 100%, and means we’ve doubled engagement hours this year.

 We weren't tracking this metric until 2020, but based on other data we have, we estimate that the previous year's growth rate was 90%, for two-year growth of ~380%.

 This chart shows daily engagement hours for 2020 (yellow) and 2021 (blue). The red line shows our daily "target" (the numbers we'd need to hit to reach 100% YoY growth if our engagement grew linearly).

 We'll also share our graph for monthly active users (people who viewed at least one page while logged in):

 We went from 727 MAUs in 10/2019 to 1140 in 10/2020 and 1954 in 10/2021.

 Progress this quarter

 Key progress:

 * We onboarded 2 new engineers: Sarah Cheng and Jonathan Mustin.
 * We published the community and events page and hired a contractor to make sure the list of events is up to date every week.
 * We cross-posted hundreds of older articles from EA sources to the Forum, to make them taggable and searchable within the site. This includes blog posts from Open Philanthropy, papers from the Global Priorities Institute, and podcast transcripts from 80,000 Hours.
 * We helped Holden Karnofsky cross-post a series of successful posts from his Cold Takes blog, starting with this one.
 * We launched a creative writing contest.

 Other progress:

 * We implemented several new user-visible features:
 + Post analytics
 + Forum Digest subscription reminder
 + Sidebar banner
 * We got Cypress testing working, with a handful of initial tests. This won’t have a direct impact on users, but will make it easier for us to test our code. This was a large project – LessWrong started working on it over 2 years ago.
 * ~150 people have ordered books from the order link we posted in the EA Handbook.

 Reflections

 I estimate that engineering output tripled in September (e.g. all three of the user-visible features I mentioned were released in September.) This is in line with the tripling of team size. Given that Sarah just started this month, I’m pretty happy with that increase in productivity, though I also think that I could have made the onboarding process even smoother.

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Posted on Friday, November 5th 2021  (last updated Tuesday, November 9th 2021)   The Effective Altruism Forum aims to be the central place for collaborative discussion about how to do the most good. This post summarizes our growth over the last year.
Metric status
Hours of engagement are up by 100.2% year-over-year as of October 1. This meets our target of 100%, and means we’ve doubled engagement hours this year.
We weren't tracking this metric until 2020, but based on other data we have, we estimate that the previous year's growth rate was 90%, for two-year growth of ~380%.
 
This chart shows daily engagement hours for 2020 (yellow) and 2021 (blue). The red line shows our daily "target" (the numbers we'd need to hit to reach 100% YoY growth if our engagement grew linearly).
We'll also share our graph for monthly active users (people who viewed at least one page while logged in):
 
We went from 727 MAUs in 10/2019 to 1140 in 10/2020 and 1954 in 10/2021.
Progress this quarter
Key progress:
We onboarded 2 new engineers: Sarah Cheng and Jonathan Mustin.
We published the community and events page and hired a contractor to make sure the list of events is up to date every week.
We cross-posted hundreds of older articles from EA sources to the Forum, to make them taggable and searchable within the site. This includes blog posts from Open Philanthropy, papers from the Global Priorities Institute, and podcast transcripts from 80,000 Hours.
We helped Holden Karnofsky cross-post a series of successful posts from his Cold Takes blog, starting with this one.
We launched a creative writing contest.
Other progress:
We implemented several new user-visible features:
Post analytics
Forum Digest subscription reminder
Sidebar banner
We got Cypress testing working, with a handful of initial tests. This won’t have a direct impact on users, but will make it easier for us to test our code. This was a large project – LessWrong started working on it over 2 years ago.
~150 people have ordered books from the order link we posted in the EA Handbook.
Reflections
I estimate that engineering output tripled in September (e.g. all three of the user-visible features I mentioned were released in September.) This is in line with the tripling of team size. Given that Sarah just started this month, I’m pretty happy with that increase in productivity, though I also think that I could have made the onboarding process even smoother.
EA Forum engagement doubled in the last year
https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/blog/ea-forum-engagement-doubled-in-the-last-year
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<div><p><a href="/users/nicklaing">nicklaing</a> on <a href="/posts/QMMFyAX3ajf9vF5sb/h5n1-thread-for-information-sharing-planning-and-action#nMZdeRasceGriaAD8">H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action</a><br />
 
 <p>Changed thanks nice one!</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/quinn">quinn</a> on <a href="/posts/qpuaYNrKfgZapm4QA/effective-altruism-deconfusion-part-2-causes-philosophy-and#r822Ttz5Td6YnKqKZ">Effective Altruism Deconfusion, Part 2: Causes, Philosophy, and Social Constraints </a><br />
 
 <p>Really good post, you're really getting at what counts. </p><p>Sometimes I get a vibe from community building efforts that people feel like 100% conversion from "wants to do good" to EA is the target or goal. When I often want to say, "no, a failed conversion might be great, it might mean someone is thinking clearly about niche philosophical conundrum xyz and happens to fall to the opposite side of us". I think this is <strong>good and should be celebrated</strong>, but it means certain estimates of what the ceiling of EA participation is (like people who think we'll be as big as "environmentalism" or "antiabortion" someday) are straightforwardly wrong. </p><p>(Note "conversion" has religious overtones but it's also a marketing term, I'm using it in the marketing sense) </p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/michael_pj">michael_pj</a> on <a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members#WbFiXCGozJ7pfxGLg">Should EVF consider appointing new board members?</a><br />
 
 <p>I won't start the discussion here, but I <a href="https://eaforum.issarice.com/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4#NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4">continue to think</a> [<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4#NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4">EA</a>(<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4">p</a>) · <a href="https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4#comment-NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4">GW</a>(<a href="https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey?commentId=NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4/comment/NZ3TwyCii5YSpR2S4">p</a>)] that we'd be better off systematically if we took the rule of de-privileging optics-based reasoning even if it's better in individual situations. I appreciate that this is controversial.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/disgruntled_ea">disgruntled_ea</a> on <a href="/posts/iMGGsjmtbkopakx5K/i-no-longer-feel-comfortable-in-ea#TYacLoBAXx4kL4ser">I No Longer Feel Comfortable in EA</a><br />
 
 <p>I edited the post because I don't want this to distract from the larger message. A few points: </p><p>1) The recent <a href="https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/">TIME article</a> argues that a lot of the misconduct and harassment <i>is </i>related to polyamory in EA. A few quotes:</p><blockquote><p>Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince her to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Several of the women who spoke to TIME said that the popularity of polyamory within EA fosters an environment in which men—often men who control career opportunities–feel empowered to recruit younger women into uncomfortable sexual relationships. </p></blockquote><p>I'm not saying people can never consent to having multiple partners, but this is not okay. People should not feel pressured into lifestyle choices like these. <strong>There needs to be a place in EA for people who want to buy malaria nets and want nothing to do with Berkeley polycules. </strong></p><p>2) Keep in mind that these analogies risk trivializing the oppression that the LGBTQ+ community has faced. Gay and queer individuals have faced and continue to face massive discrimination, and being gay is <i>never </i> a choice.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/mathiaskb">mathiaskb</a> on <a href="/posts/QMMFyAX3ajf9vF5sb/h5n1-thread-for-information-sharing-planning-and-action#8smyeaNhSw3QiuccB">H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action</a><br />
 
 <p>I don't think I suggested that? Forgive me if the original post was phrased poorly, I wrote it in some fourty minutes.</p><p>My point with mentioning 10,000 lives lost was to operationalize the question of whether it becomes a serious pandemic.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/michael_pj">michael_pj</a> on <a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members#AgRPrMAqXt4Nakqo7">Should EVF consider appointing new board members?</a><br />
 
 <p>Sorry, but that really doesn't seem like "promoting Sam so heavily as the poster child of EA", and more like "went with the general flow of letting Sam's projects go ahead".</p><p>I agree the Elon Musk thing was sketchy and arguably a bad decision, but that also wasn't public and not related to SBF's EA activities.</p><p>To be clear, I also got the <i>vibe</i> that Sam was a poster child, but I don't think I can point to <i>Nick and Will</i> pushing that, and since those are the people we're talking about sacking, I think that's pretty relevant.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/jason-1">jason-1</a> on <a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members#9so9HFQaJgge6uvv9">Should EVF consider appointing new board members?</a><br />
 
 <p>The "traditional way" of corporate governance is in significant part based on lessons learned from past mistakes, so I think at least a weak presumption in favor of following that approach is warranted. Otherwise, the only way to learn those lessons will be to make the same painful mistakes. If we <em>only</em> follow the traditional approach when we would independently reach that outcome via reasoning, we're not assigning any weight to that body of experience.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/peter_wildeford">peter_wildeford</a> on <a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members#ERpR8s2joz6prdzJs">Should EVF consider appointing new board members?</a><br />
 
 <p>Optics is one reason and it is a good reason. Optics matters and I don't think we should be so dismissive towards optics concerns.</p>
<p>Another related reason I mentioned is the trust element - regardless of whether it sits badly, it still is a fact of the matter that community trust is needed to do this job, and while Will + Nick are presumably good people they are lacking in the trust department at the moment, which suggests they should find a different job. I imagine there's a lot of very useful things for them to do in the EA movement and I'm not suggesting by any means casting them out of EA entirely. Just really doubtful they are the right people for the EVF board at this moment. This kind of reasoning happens all the time in all sorts of boards.</p>
<p>However, the element I worry much more about is that of bad decision making and basic risk management. Essentially if there's someone and you think there's a 20% chance they just make catastrophically bad decisions, I don't know why you'd want them involved in the sorts of things they make catastrophically bad decisions about, even if there's an 80% chance that they're fine.</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/peter_wildeford">peter_wildeford</a> on <a href="/posts/aFGzLDwPrepQLevu6/should-evf-consider-appointing-new-board-members#LTdThzRiQWQMYiJNa">Should EVF consider appointing new board members?</a><br />
 
 <p>I'm not exactly sure who made what decisions, and I'm not sure what Nick and Will expressed behind the scenes or what they tried to do, but as far as we can see publicly, Nick and Will definitely went along with and followed through on a strategy that definitely did enable Sam to run the "FTX Future Fund" (note: FTX prominently in the name) in a very prominent way that was very connected to EA, as well as orient a lot of his public branding and public persona to EA in a highly visible way. I think Nick and Will, and their strong reputation within the EA community, were critical in making this happen.</p>
<p>Contrast this to how Dustin relates to Open Philanthropy (note: not named Asana Philanthropy Fund) and you'll see it was very clear Sam was using EA to burnish his own personal popularity. Unfortunately, no one <a href="https://eaforum.issarice.com/posts/hDK9CZJwH2Cqc9n9J/some-clarifications-on-the-future-fund-s-approach-to#6Mvj7XapNkGuLCzLn">except me</a> [<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/hDK9CZJwH2Cqc9n9J/some-clarifications-on-the-future-fund-s-approach-to#6Mvj7XapNkGuLCzLn">EA</a>(<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/hDK9CZJwH2Cqc9n9J/some-clarifications-on-the-future-fund-s-approach-to?commentId=6Mvj7XapNkGuLCzLn">p</a>) · <a href="https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/hDK9CZJwH2Cqc9n9J/some-clarifications-on-the-future-fund-s-approach-to#comment-6Mvj7XapNkGuLCzLn">GW</a>(<a href="https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/hDK9CZJwH2Cqc9n9J/some-clarifications-on-the-future-fund-s-approach-to/comment/6Mvj7XapNkGuLCzLn">p</a>)] (as far as I know) seemed particularly (publicly) concerned about that.</p>
<p><a href="https://eaforum.issarice.com/posts/dk9HTJKNAAwaEZTgk/will-macaskill-s-role-in-connecting-sbf-to-elon-musk-for-a">Will also vouched for SBF to Elon Musk in a bid to invest in Twitter</a> [<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/dk9HTJKNAAwaEZTgk/will-macaskill-s-role-in-connecting-sbf-to-elon-musk-for-a">EA</a> · <a href="https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/dk9HTJKNAAwaEZTgk/will-macaskill-s-role-in-connecting-sbf-to-elon-musk-for-a">GW</a>].</p>
 
 
 <a href="/users/amber">amber</a> on <a href="/posts/35GfPjdfvBXgC5moR/where-can-i-learn-about-how-dalys-are-calculated#xDrdrpLY8qbPonzAa">Where can I learn about how DALYs are calculated?</a><br />
 
 <p>I just had the exact same question, so thanks Aaron for asking this, and Derek for giving this answer :)</p>
 
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 [link] An audio version of the alignment problem from a deep learning perspective by Richard Ngo Et Al
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 Many AI governance proposals have a tradeoff between usefulness and feasibility
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 Reading Group Launch: Introduction to Nuclear Issues, March-April 2023
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 [question] Is this a way to manipulate prediction markets?
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 Future Matters #7: AI timelines, AI skepticism, and lock-in
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 [link] Assessing China's importance as an AI superpower
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 [link] I asked ChatGPT about pattern recognition, alignment and fairness constraints.
 Miguel · 2023-02-03T03:36:49.117Z · comments (None)


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 nicklaing on H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action

 Changed thanks nice one!

 quinn on Effective Altruism Deconfusion, Part 2: Causes, Philosophy, and Social Constraints

 Really good post, you're really getting at what counts.

 Sometimes I get a vibe from community building efforts that people feel like 100% conversion from "wants to do good" to EA is the target or goal. When I often want to say, "no, a failed conversion might be great, it might mean someone is thinking clearly about niche philosophical conundrum xyz and happens to fall to the opposite side of us". I think this is good and should be celebrated, but it means certain estimates of what the ceiling of EA participation is (like people who think we'll be as big as "environmentalism" or "antiabortion" someday) are straightforwardly wrong.

 (Note "conversion" has religious overtones but it's also a marketing term, I'm using it in the marketing sense)

 michael_pj on Should EVF consider appointing new board members?

 I won't start the discussion here, but I continue to think [EA(p) · GW(p)] that we'd be better off systematically if we took the rule of de-privileging optics-based reasoning even if it's better in individual situations. I appreciate that this is controversial.

 disgruntled_ea on I No Longer Feel Comfortable in EA

 I edited the post because I don't want this to distract from the larger message. A few points:

 1) The recent TIME article argues that a lot of the misconduct and harassment is related to polyamory in EA. A few quotes:

 Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince her to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.

 Several of the women who spoke to TIME said that the popularity of polyamory within EA fosters an environment in which men—often men who control career opportunities–feel empowered to recruit younger women into uncomfortable sexual relationships.

 I'm not saying people can never consent to having multiple partners, but this is not okay. People should not feel pressured into lifestyle choices like these. There needs to be a place in EA for people who want to buy malaria nets and want nothing to do with Berkeley polycules.

 2) Keep in mind that these analogies risk trivializing the oppression that the LGBTQ+ community has faced. Gay and queer individuals have faced and continue to face massive discrimination, and being gay is never a choice.

 mathiaskb on H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action

 I don't think I suggested that? Forgive me if the original post was phrased poorly, I wrote it in some fourty minutes.

 My point with mentioning 10,000 lives lost was to operationalize the question of whether it becomes a serious pandemic.

 michael_pj on Should EVF consider appointing new board members?

 Sorry, but that really doesn't seem like "promoting Sam so heavily as the poster child of EA", and more like "went with the general flow of letting Sam's projects go ahead".

 I agree the Elon Musk thing was sketchy and arguably a bad decision, but that also wasn't public and not related to SBF's EA activities.

 To be clear, I also got the vibe that Sam was a poster child, but I don't think I can point to Nick and Will pushing that, and since those are the people we're talking about sacking, I think that's pretty relevant.

 jason-1 on Should EVF consider appointing new board members?

 The "traditional way" of corporate governance is in significant part based on lessons learned from past mistakes, so I think at least a weak presumption in favor of following that approach is warranted. Otherwise, the only way to learn those lessons will be to make the same painful mistakes. If we only follow the traditional approach when we would independently reach that outcome via reasoning, we're not assigning any weight to that body of experience.

 peter_wildeford on Should EVF consider appointing new board members?

 Optics is one reason and it is a good reason. Optics matters and I don't think we should be so dismissive towards optics concerns.

 Another related reason I mentioned is the trust element - regardless of whether it sits badly, it still is a fact of the matter that community trust is needed to do this job, and while Will + Nick are presumably good people they are lacking in the trust department at the moment, which suggests they should find a different job. I imagine there's a lot of very useful things for them to do in the EA movement and I'm not suggesting by any means casting them out of EA entirely. Just really doubtful they are the right people for the EVF board at this moment. This kind of reasoning happens all the time in all sorts of boards.

 However, the element I worry much more about is that of bad decision making and basic risk management. Essentially if there's someone and you think there's a 20% chance they just make catastrophically bad decisions, I don't know why you'd want them involved in the sorts of things they make catastrophically bad decisions about, even if there's an 80% chance that they're fine.

 peter_wildeford on Should EVF consider appointing new board members?

 I'm not exactly sure who made what decisions, and I'm not sure what Nick and Will expressed behind the scenes or what they tried to do, but as far as we can see publicly, Nick and Will definitely went along with and followed through on a strategy that definitely did enable Sam to run the "FTX Future Fund" (note: FTX prominently in the name) in a very prominent way that was very connected to EA, as well as orient a lot of his public branding and public persona to EA in a highly visible way. I think Nick and Will, and their strong reputation within the EA community, were critical in making this happen.

 Contrast this to how Dustin relates to Open Philanthropy (note: not named Asana Philanthropy Fund) and you'll see it was very clear Sam was using EA to burnish his own personal popularity. Unfortunately, no one except me [EA(p) · GW(p)] (as far as I know) seemed particularly (publicly) concerned about that.

 Will also vouched for SBF to Elon Musk in a bid to invest in Twitter [EA · GW].

 amber on Where can I learn about how DALYs are calculated?

 I just had the exact same question, so thanks Aaron for asking this, and Derek for giving this answer :)

nicklaing on H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action 
 
 Changed thanks nice one!
 
 
 quinn on Effective Altruism Deconfusion, Part 2: Causes, Philosophy, and Social Constraints  
 
 Really good post, you're really getting at what counts.  Sometimes I get a vibe from community building efforts that people feel like 100% conversion from "wants to do good" to EA is the target or goal. When I often want to say, "no, a failed conversion might be great, it might mean someone is thinking clearly about niche philosophical conundrum xyz and happens to fall to the opposite side of us". I think this is good and should be celebrated, but it means certain estimates of what the ceiling of EA participation is (like people who think we'll be as big as "environmentalism" or "antiabortion" someday) are straightforwardly wrong.  (Note "conversion" has religious overtones but it's also a marketing term, I'm using it in the marketing sense) 
 
 
 michael_pj on Should EVF consider appointing new board members? 
 
 I won't start the discussion here, but I continue to think [EA(p) · GW(p)] that we'd be better off systematically if we took the rule of de-privileging optics-based reasoning even if it's better in individual situations. I appreciate that this is controversial.
 
 
 disgruntled_ea on I No Longer Feel Comfortable in EA 
 
 I edited the post because I don't want this to distract from the larger message. A few points:  1) The recent TIME article argues that a lot of the misconduct and harassment is related to polyamory in EA. A few quotes:  Three times in one year, she says, men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince her to join these so-called “polycules.” When Gopalakrishnan said she wasn’t interested, she recalls, they would “shame” her or try to pressure her, casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy, and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach.   Several of the women who spoke to TIME said that the popularity of polyamory within EA fosters an environment in which men—often men who control career opportunities–feel empowered to recruit younger women into uncomfortable sexual relationships.   I'm not saying people can never consent to having multiple partners, but this is not okay. People should not feel pressured into lifestyle choices like these. There needs to be a place in EA for people who want to buy malaria nets and want nothing to do with Berkeley polycules.   2) Keep in mind that these analogies risk trivializing the oppression that the LGBTQ+ community has faced. Gay and queer individuals have faced and continue to face massive discrimination, and being gay is never  a choice.
 
 
 mathiaskb on H5N1 - thread for information sharing, planning, and action 
 
 I don't think I suggested that? Forgive me if the original post was phrased poorly, I wrote it in some fourty minutes. My point with mentioning 10,000 lives lost was to operationalize the question of whether it becomes a serious pandemic.
 
 
 michael_pj on Should EVF consider appointing new board members? 
 
 Sorry, but that really doesn't seem like "promoting Sam so heavily as the poster child of EA", and more like "went with the general flow of letting Sam's projects go ahead". I agree the Elon Musk thing was sketchy and arguably a bad decision, but that also wasn't public and not related to SBF's EA activities. To be clear, I also got the vibe that Sam was a poster child, but I don't think I can point to Nick and Will pushing that, and since those are the people we're talking about sacking, I think that's pretty relevant.
 
 
 jason-1 on Should EVF consider appointing new board members? 
 
 The "traditional way" of corporate governance is in significant part based on lessons learned from past mistakes, so I think at least a weak presumption in favor of following that approach is warranted. Otherwise, the only way to learn those lessons will be to make the same painful mistakes. If we only follow the traditional approach when we would independently reach that outcome via reasoning, we're not assigning any weight to that body of experience.
 
 
 peter_wildeford on Should EVF consider appointing new board members? 
 
 Optics is one reason and it is a good reason. Optics matters and I don't think we should be so dismissive towards optics concerns.
Another related reason I mentioned is the trust element - regardless of whether it sits badly, it still is a fact of the matter that community trust is needed to do this job, and while Will + Nick are presumably good people they are lacking in the trust department at the moment, which suggests they should find a different job. I imagine there's a lot of very useful things for them to do in the EA movement and I'm not suggesting by any means casting them out of EA entirely. Just really doubtful they are the right people for the EVF board at this moment. This kind of reasoning happens all the time in all sorts of boards.
However, the element I worry much more about is that of bad decision making and basic risk management. Essentially if there's someone and you think there's a 20% chance they just make catastrophically bad decisions, I don't know why you'd want them involved in the sorts of things they make catastrophically bad decisions about, even if there's an 80% chance that they're fine.
 
 
 peter_wildeford on Should EVF consider appointing new board members? 
 
 I'm not exactly sure who made what decisions, and I'm not sure what Nick and Will expressed behind the scenes or what they tried to do, but as far as we can see publicly, Nick and Will definitely went along with and followed through on a strategy that definitely did enable Sam to run the "FTX Future Fund" (note: FTX prominently in the name) in a very prominent way that was very connected to EA, as well as orient a lot of his public branding and public persona to EA in a highly visible way. I think Nick and Will, and their strong reputation within the EA community, were critical in making this happen.
Contrast this to how Dustin relates to Open Philanthropy (note: not named Asana Philanthropy Fund) and you'll see it was very clear Sam was using EA to burnish his own personal popularity. Unfortunately, no one except me [EA(p) · GW(p)] (as far as I know) seemed particularly (publicly) concerned about that.
 Will also vouched for SBF to Elon Musk in a bid to invest in Twitter [EA · GW].
 
 
 amber on Where can I learn about how DALYs are calculated? 
 
 I just had the exact same question, so thanks Aaron for asking this, and Derek for giving this answer :)
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All are Facebook Groups unless otherwise indicated as fora or LinkedIn groups.</p><h3></h3><ul><li><p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2zi8SDHSkHXlJWzDfcadR1">Effective Altruism Forum</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feffective.altruists%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1VztnK4D2TnMSZJQgM8lTo">Main Effective Altruism Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feahangout%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2EadFCf-swmLrZaVNAQ82X">EA Hangouts</a> (informal facebook group to casually discuss EA and non-EA topics)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEA.Anywhere.Group&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0CidDRS5KrADDGtx0sAfMF">The EA Anywhere Group</a> is a group for people who can’t attend <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fcommunity&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw00IceujEb7fRqvaAIIPHeZ">local EA groups</a> to have regular online meetings to discuss EA ideas and support each other with their goals to have a positive impact.</p></li></ul><h3></h3><p><strong>Animal Advocacy</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FEffectiveAnimalAdvocacy%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1r9EcVfuP4em3DVnDRT2NS">Effective Animal Advocacy- Discussion</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fsuffering.in.nature%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1DDn51zmp-Gsox6dC7H2QB">Reducing Wild Animal Suffering</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fwildanimalwelfareprojectdiscussion%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ICPH3vNkzyciGIHiuL-Sq">Wild Animal Suffering Project Discussion</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Feaadirectory_public&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0DjuqSMen-YG0LUIgfQhVy">Effective Animal Advocacy Community Directory</a> (A list of people who have indicated that they may be able to support those with interest in the area of animal advocacy)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Artificial Intelligence (AI) Safety</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alignmentforum.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0p7arI0K4tWnowapvKQUcU">AI Alignment Forum</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Faisafetyopen%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0KAVYJdbTcZ9gmI-XeBE9K">AI Safety Open Discussion</a> (for everyone, especially beginners)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Faisafety&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1uC5zhvDcG7lsBgYDCaJMR">AI Safety Discussion</a> (people with AI/ML experience or familiarity)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FArtificialIntelligenceSafety%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2-0TUKcmz8KEBl4THtrUHm">AI Safety &amp; Security</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Ethics</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Futilitarianism%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0YnSMiIkwhE251Sqc7G_gJ">Utilitarianism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fnegative.utilitarianism.discussion%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw24-KC7u_izbDK-_CX22JVC">Negative Utilitarianism and Suffering-Focused Ethics</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Long-Term Future</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FExistentialRisk%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw16bFNmJuEwrws91DzbJrks">Existential Risk</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FGlobalCatastrophicRisk%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Cwh-hPgCZsDQi_CCt3EJf">Global Catastrophic Risk</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F355078324931737%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0nBIG6rYNLsV0_FTKBxG2V">Improving the Long-term Future and Effective Altruism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Freducing.srisks%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1iGhn29m7mu9lGK1zorKNw">Risks of Astronomical Suffering (s-risks)</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Other Cause Areas</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FGlobal.Dev.And.EA%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw307l3QdPTQJXQVz6iOEijQ">International Development &amp; Effective Altruism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FCausePrioritization%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0M7NOiFaQ_CpbjWBQu4PqZ">Cause Prioritisation</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feffectiveenvironmentalism%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2HCiO_PfjKPBkQa1p851Il">Effective Environmentalism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1832948053436066%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0rIXZxDSvLGLrhcrDLFfbq">Institutional Decision-Making</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FEAmentalhealthandhappiness%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2ktIAynrBrymJ12y9zrN9Y">Mental Health &amp; Happiness</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F450247668487258%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1P8cWns_M-XakL3yhYajGl">Policy</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1006887426016674%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Pya_VUAXyWd-0IGeLYdEN">System Change</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F144017955332%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3BbJr2hvl4mdug2ofA0QI2">Rationality</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1362064933805619%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2q5OXwr66S6SHPrTQ28L3d">LessWrong (Rationality Group)</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F4147495108609573%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0uL4o5Au0xga3Es9YXho3o">Coronavirus Discussion</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Careers and Volunteering</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F473795076132698%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw18hwSN2Y6jTindDheVWTd1">Careers Discussion</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fgroups%2F5057625%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0MPzt8sKQGZcmZ5UfNXj9r">80,000 Hours LinkedIn Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1062957250383195%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Puqj7npcnHOml-p-k6ryD">Job Postings</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1392613437498240%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1RXkpigL1b9gEiChRWvU8J">Effective Altruism Volunteering</a></p></li></ul><h3></h3><p>These groups are a good place to get feedback on specialized or specific career paths. Relevant job/internship/fellowship opportunities are often posted in these groups.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FAISafetyCareers%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1rR8I3WMVVGA5LDiC1CrD4">AI Safety</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F798404410293244%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1qWEBjtT_igDBvwcnYYhpb">Academia</a> (general)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1696670373923332%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw38G0wS6VpMxFOb-7t_3w_6">Artists and Designers</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fbiologistsineffectivealtruism%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1aujAPrzgEAJICKdEe9gPn">Biologists</a></p></li><li><p>Consultants: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eac-network.com%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0_CyKUQg3pEjCRgT1ZPL9a">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F872637816229205%2Fabout%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2evSVYfjPpS_DWwmpQiQb0">Facebook Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F706709786095975%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2ekml3PJA3i3lNz7_R68Nv">Data Scientists</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1534978383462487%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Xc6eGj4pVU4uK2HJtJwaq">Effective Altruism Fundamental Research</a></p></li><li><p>Medicine/Healthcare: </p><ol><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FHealthEA&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3ADh9ndJfeOrEy5NzP-zKq">Facebook Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ea-med.com%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw259s4OKO6EYTewlrEs6VVN">EA Medicine website</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.highimpactmedicine.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2U1CcCCSYA1P3voJAE6ZvO">High Impact Medicine</a></p></li></ol></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F926908151148921%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2c92FAxsArBcJ62oVpWP18">History</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1095037267174400%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1HHviRInVzwyJNmnzthhwW">Education</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F188495418737848%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3vY3pHu23cLG3go80M2Add">Engineering</a> (<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2FMEfEsQ9yeB7fhMJTq%2Fannouncing-ea-engineers&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0bIWe_tio2Zjm3yyQkYjEh">Forum Post</a>)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feconomicsofdoinggood%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1q8PvB3Oz5kZJhIc1oeHcn">Economics</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fea.entrepreneurship%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1BFy9WX1n5qAKHspTl6bG0">Entrepreneurs</a></p></li><li><p>Finance: <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eafinance.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw21-YGg37YM7q9kiDzL03Ir">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fgroups%2F9050668%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw144__Cux2jbULpirdjd4RL">LinkedIn</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1067597556684941%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0LktwqirGLiNmFC33c1bRd">Operations</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F355817418404233%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0_9EWpSGJ6s_rFUA5BbaBl">Policy and Politics (careers)</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FMarketingEAinLondon&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2BqvuP2CI3h5GGNhT0V5Fo">Marketing &amp; Communications</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feffectivemedia&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw24EIkVZl2XL6YFSjztVDTw">Media &amp; Journalism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1275690949170991%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0faNU_bpAY_X67dH65JgiC">Psychologists</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F191773064533511&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1x3jPN0tJYstFTPwR9C4ge">Software, Data &amp; Technology</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fhighimpactathletes.com%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2pnzim1CxV3QNEmVJKnvJf">Athletes (website)</a></p></li></ul><h3><div><p>Affiliations and Attributes</p></div></h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fbuddhists.in.ea&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2Rd5GuLRMPpXyxaKiH3-Gw">Buddhists</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feaforchristians%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0kLwU8ozcp322Y61hwFfTT">Christians</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1520172064903930%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw15gVIQbSIDrm8R8riwLCp2">Libertarians</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feaparents%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw155wNphxVrCMDxmw--seKc">Parents</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1521136334570384%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0bCr9o2vM4JZ-IoBY6d5AN">Politics</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F471321469552208%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw163_9WGMTNX1N9cYwKodQe">Women &amp; Non-binary</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.magnifymentoring.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3ZTr3sGgCRA-NB8I8F8w_G">Magnify Mentoring</a> (formerly WANBAM) mainly connects and supports a global network of women, trans people of any gender and non-binary people interested in Effective Altruism through mentorship.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FLGBTinEA%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3L8wTKwrTn3BkrbTSV0dke">LGBTQIA+ people and allies</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F487263712002225%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw03-7ewlBPREYx51tuclwVC">Underrepresented Racial &amp; Ethnic Groups in EA</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F3032907556832660&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3fBkjRsFWID8HP-Kuy2kJi">Disabled and Chronically Ill People</a></p></li></ul><h3></h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F784498518296164%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0eOqgM1kEcDOZsB8me4PbK">Earning to Give</a></p></li><li><p>EA Giving Tuesday (<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Feagivingtuesday.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2eScc1Vq1GSjTkZm3VS2x2">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Feagivingtuesday%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ZbItT2IaAeeKzqeKEiGtO">Facebook Page</a>) - to coordinate donations during Facebook and Paypal’s yearly donation matching campaign</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fgivingwhatwecancommunity%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0U6lRDUbfu-wEfou4k_GfE">Giving What We Can Community</a></p></li></ul><h3><div><p>Community &amp; Community-Building</p></div></h3><p><strong>Group Organizers</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F956362287803174%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3EJI7_Yy0QdZAW73MuPZEP">EA Group Organizers Facebook Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Feagroups.slack.com%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3afWsC-ay_UkV4DT8VJqmx">EA groups Slack workspace</a>, where you can share resources and ask questions. <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fefctv.org%2FEAGroupsSlack&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1N2wpEcdMZvQwAZOV-IMDy">Sign up here</a>.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.effectivealtruism.org%2Fea-groups-newsletter-archives%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0z6Vi_oZA3HfEr8zeiXH1P">EA Groups Newsletter</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Community Health</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Fea.peer.support%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1o_oFrNwqm5B6eT_-As6Q3">Peer Support Group</a> - This is a private Facebook group to offer support for people dealing with personal problems. Contact <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fstafforini%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1XKCfvV7ehsWba2VwvMlSq">Pablo on Facebook</a> to be added.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FdiversityEA%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3oUnCtUNC7s7VQD0mlPPrU">Diversity and Inclusion in EA</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FEACoaching%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0NpFzZaAI8vTA9mN_GivXW">Life Coaching Exchange</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Housing/Places to Stay</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2F4zHWQNzCusaTfD7jz%2Fea-houses-live-or-stay-with-eas-around-the-world&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3qvv-eodXYf4BV1SmCOqTO">EA Houses</a> (view <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwNn1VEaQuSzDdedCVcmjktxeZj-apHele4Ry8DLJk0/edit#gid=0">spreadsheet here</a>)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fceealar.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0l8Z1LZ26Dx0Lft-6nFD26">EA Hotel / CEAALAR </a><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fceealar.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0l8Z1LZ26Dx0Lft-6nFD26">(in Blackpool, UK)</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1021488637885621%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1S0isNEzlndrrZZgO9fblb">EA Couchsurfing Facebook Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2FpMSRDf3XFHhuSLLyD%2Fea-housing-slack&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3xWqt4pQOZxszrEMYuevOx">EA Housing Slack</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Casual Groups</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscordapp.com%2Finvite%2FnFsNfaH&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1qiaIFvPl-3O6ojSxie9pv">EA Corner Discord Server</a> An informal chat room hosted on Discord, with subthreads on many EA and non-EA related topics.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FEffectiveAltruism%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2TJJ6UQx9Y4_5FeWlIVOxl">Effective Altruism Subreddit</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Other</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1113035452044256%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Aio0XKvi03EJfFjQvQvAK">Giving Games Discussion Group</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F458111434360997%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1yToW1kYV4h8mJVgOl2EYi">Editing and Review</a> (for getting feedback on your work)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F1666606496928923%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0RjeCo8o1ZK1BVIRjkPWWO">EA Project for Awesome (P4A) </a>- for coordinating voting and the creation of videos to funnel prize money to effective charities during an annual fundraiser</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FEAWorkplaceActivism%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2zC6TyBNUB6rA7MX-KJFg7">Workplace Activism</a></p></li></ul><h2></h2><p>In-person meetups with like-minded people can be very enjoyable, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2FuPFx462NAamBo5Eqq%2Fea-survey-series-2018-how-do-people-get-involved-in-ea%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3xhpbL3F0plZw7QtfEzpye">can help people get more involved in EA</a> and keep up to date with EA related research.</p><p>Check out the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fcommunity&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw00IceujEb7fRqvaAIIPHeZ">EA Forum Community page</a> to see if there is a local EA group near you. You can also find nearby people in the EA community via the Community Members tab there.</p><h2></h2><ul><li><p>For a wide range of online events, check out the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FEAOnlineEvents%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0cKt0pX-SQ59DDiagjwbXo">EA online events Facebook group</a>.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ie5uop71imftf4ut2htbv789v8@group.calendar.google.com">international EA events calendar</a>, curated by several community members, lists high-quality speaker events and large social events suitable for anyone interested in EA. <a href="https://forms.gle/cLHxZ4QY2hjLEYnu8">To add an event, fill out this form</a>. If you notice an error in the calendar please email vaidehiagarwalla@gmail.com.</p></li><li><p>Special interest events are being run by some of the groups on this page based on interest areas, affiliations, or professions.</p></li><li><p>Join your <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fcommunity&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw00IceujEb7fRqvaAIIPHeZ">nearest local EA group</a> to attend events they may be running.</p></li></ul><h2></h2><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eaglobal.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3zdUPyAonAQhSsEzrjL3NN">EA Global and EAGx</a> conferences are the main international conferences for the EA community.</p><h2></h2><ul><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.effectivealtruism.org%2Fea-newsletter-archives%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3JGcLHT8aaV8uHe2vrYv8m">Effective Altruism Newsletter</a> is a joint project between the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.centreforeffectivealtruism.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0BzhcZkYL8fctLlpOj_pvu">Centre for Effective Altruism</a> and <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Frethinkprojects.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2cwbSYxbM5Hqf-8ag2vtpM">Rethink Charity</a> that provides news and updates about the effective altruism community.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2F80000hours.org%2Fnewsletter%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3IPWIq26MWHgx794-z4Y-v">80,000 Hours Newsletter</a> provides updates on the latest high-impact roles that 80,000 Hours has identified in the EA community and adjacent fields and highlights their <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2F80000hours.org%2Fjob-board%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Iz7pCumwJL8oT5vfO1O6W">job board</a>.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Frohinshah.com%2Falignment-newsletter%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw14UTQ4f5384i-YhwTwswE4">AI alignment newsletter</a> is a weekly publication with content relevant to AI aslighment.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fus14.campaign-archive.com%2Fhome%2F%3Fu%3D66df320da8400b581cbc1b539%26id%3Dde632a3c62&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1plXq3TaXZTygH_-9AHnaC">Farmed Animal Welfare newsletter</a> from Open Philanthropy.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.us18.list-manage.com%2Fsubscribe%3Fu%3D6e4a3c238c0cbe9c754c8b554%26id%3D9abab652ea&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2AqcRPZbLGX-nm7mBhcGG1">But Can They Suffer newsletter</a> summarises news, research, discussion, job opportunities, and events related to effective animal advocacy.</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2Fg9mEtn&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Ehe7bxbenoYqNMlDxeL04">Effective Environmentalism newsletter</a> is a monthly update on the newest research on effective ways to protect our environment and combat climate change.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Ffuture-perfect&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw24Iz-AVRdNS5AdmwnbJiiN">Future Perfect</a> project on Vox takes an EA perspective on a large range of issues, including, but not limited to, main EA causes. You can sign up for their newsletter <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fconfirmsubscription.com%2Fh%2Fd%2FA2BA26698741513A&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw17W1fWUaFGsdndKsmTvQQ0">here</a>.</p></li><li><p>You can also sign up for the newsletters of the different <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fresources.eahub.org%2Flearn%2Forgs%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2mCN5KINw86MxeHLmntwD0">EA organisations</a> to stay up to date with their progress.</p></li></ul><h2></h2><ul><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2F80000hours.org%2Fpodcast%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw09omamR5OAPkC7NpDmwH38">80,000 Hours Podcast</a> features unusually in-depth conversations on the world’s most pressing problems and how you can use your career to solve them.</p></li><li><p>Watch talks from Effective Altruism conferences on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEfASxwPxzsHlG5Rf1-4K9w/">Centre for Effective Altruism’s youtube channel</a>, or listen to these talks on <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fearad.io%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw1q72zStktvRAxh5-x7PaCu">EA Radio</a>.</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Frationallyspeakingpodcast.org%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3zUTzOfx9U_m8zUWhEps6A">Rationally Speaking Podcast</a> Julia Galef speaks to guests as they critically explore a wide range of topics in philosophy, psychology, effective altruism, economics, technology, and more.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ffutureoflife.org%2Fthe-future-of-life-podcast%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw3WPmwAr-2VCIEPxaW4pu9Z">Future of Life Podcast</a> features Ariel Conn from the Future of Life Institute in conversation with prominent researchers, policy experts, philosophers, and other influential thinkers of all kinds.</p></li><li><p>The Future of Life Institute’s <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ffutureoflife.org%2Fai-alignment-podcast%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2uEXiDwmwFZQC8SV8DawwH">AI Alignment Podcast covers and explores the AI alignment problem across a large variety of domains, reflecting the fundamentally interdisciplinary nature of AI alignment.</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ffutureoflife.org%2Fai-alignment-podcast%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2uEXiDwmwFZQC8SV8DawwH">The </a><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sentienceinstitute.org%2Fpodcast%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw2WZ0YR2El7QklRXUfpyOOs">Sentience Institute Podcast</a> features interviews with advocates, scientists, and entrepreneurs about the most effective strategies to expand humanity’s moral circle, with an emphasis on expanding the circle to farmed animals.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Ffuture-perfect%2Fid1438157174%2F&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw0xVvc6UjfhUV6g2BCABWcm">Future Perfect Podcast</a> studies some of today’s issues with an effective altruist lens. The first season investigates a range of problems and interventions, and the second the pros and cons of big philanthropy.</p></li><li><p>A <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2FB68gjjhZccGtWDuDh%2Fa-list-of-ea-related-podcasts&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw21fj2wipY8y1923h5_g7k1">longer list of relevant podcasts is available here.</a></p></li><li><p>Many EA organisations have collected their videos on their YouTube channels. See this <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.effectivealtruism.org%2Fposts%2FjNye4h2wmsxfmWcKE%2Fwhere-to-find-ea-related-videos&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw09u23S8YH75ioAwBnvumvy">EA Forum post</a>, which contains links to many of them.</p></li></ul><p>More resources can also be found on <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Feffectivealtruism.org%2Fresources&amp;sa=D&amp;sntz=1&amp;usg=AOvVaw173WrSgjh8q-jtHTvF9v2I">effectivealtruism.org/resources</a>.</p></div></div>||||I|||| Search this site
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 * Effective Animal Advocacy- Discussion

 * Reducing Wild Animal Suffering

 * Wild Animal Suffering Project Discussion

 * Effective Animal Advocacy Community Directory (A list of people who have indicated that they may be able to support those with interest in the area of animal advocacy)


 Artificial Intelligence (AI) Safety

 * AI Alignment Forum

 * AI Safety Open Discussion (for everyone, especially beginners)

 * AI Safety Discussion (people with AI/ML experience or familiarity)

 * AI Safety & Security


 Ethics

 * Utilitarianism

 * Negative Utilitarianism and Suffering-Focused Ethics


 Long-Term Future

 * Existential Risk

 * Global Catastrophic Risk

 * Improving the Long-term Future and Effective Altruism

 * Risks of Astronomical Suffering (s-risks)


 Other Cause Areas

 * International Development & Effective Altruism

 * Cause Prioritisation

 * Effective Environmentalism

 * Institutional Decision-Making

 * Mental Health & Happiness

 * Policy

 * System Change

 * Rationality

 * LessWrong (Rationality Group)

 * Coronavirus Discussion


 Careers and Volunteering

 * Careers Discussion

 * 80,000 Hours LinkedIn Group

 * Job Postings

 * Effective Altruism Volunteering


 Groups by Profession

 These groups are a good place to get feedback on specialized or specific career paths. Relevant job/internship/fellowship opportunities are often posted in these groups.

 * AI Safety

 * Academia (general)

 * Artists and Designers

 * Biologists

 * Consultants: Website , Facebook Group

 * Data Scientists

 * Effective Altruism Fundamental Research

 * Medicine/Healthcare:

 1. Facebook Group

 2. EA Medicine website

 3. High Impact Medicine

 * History

 * Education

 * Engineering ( Forum Post )

 * Economics

 * Entrepreneurs

 * Finance: Website , LinkedIn

 * Operations

 * Policy and Politics (careers)

 * Marketing & Communications

 * Media & Journalism

 * Psychologists

 * Software, Data & Technology

 * Athletes (website)


 Affiliations and Attributes

 * Buddhists

 * Christians

 * Libertarians

 * Parents

 * Politics

 * Women & Non-binary

 * Magnify Mentoring (formerly WANBAM) mainly connects and supports a global network of women, trans people of any gender and non-binary people interested in Effective Altruism through mentorship.

 * LGBTQIA+ people and allies

 * Underrepresented Racial & Ethnic Groups in EA

 * Disabled and Chronically Ill People


 Donations and Giving

 * Earning to Give

 * EA Giving Tuesday ( Website , Facebook Page ) - to coordinate donations during Facebook and Paypal’s yearly donation matching campaign

 * Giving What We Can Community


 Community & Community-Building


 Group Organizers

 * EA Group Organizers Facebook Group

 * EA groups Slack workspace , where you can share resources and ask questions. Sign up here .

 * EA Groups Newsletter


 Community Health

 * Peer Support Group - This is a private Facebook group to offer support for people dealing with personal problems. Contact Pablo on Facebook to be added.

 * Diversity and Inclusion in EA

 * Life Coaching Exchange


 Housing/Places to Stay

 * EA Houses (view spreadsheet here)

 * EA Hotel / CEAALAR (in Blackpool, UK)

 * EA Couchsurfing Facebook Group

 * EA Housing Slack


 Casual Groups

 * EA Corner Discord Server An informal chat room hosted on Discord, with subthreads on many EA and non-EA related topics.

 * Effective Altruism Subreddit


 Other

 * Giving Games Discussion Group

 * Editing and Review (for getting feedback on your work)

 * EA Project for Awesome (P4A) - for coordinating voting and the creation of videos to funnel prize money to effective charities during an annual fundraiser

 * Workplace Activism


 Local Groups

 In-person meetups with like-minded people can be very enjoyable, can help people get more involved in EA and keep up to date with EA related research.

 Check out the EA Forum Community page to see if there is a local EA group near you. You can also find nearby people in the EA community via the Community Members tab there.


 Online Events

 * For a wide range of online events, check out the EA online events Facebook group.

 * The international EA events calendar, curated by several community members, lists high-quality speaker events and large social events suitable for anyone interested in EA. To add an event, fill out this form. If you notice an error in the calendar please email vaidehiagarwalla@gmail.com.

 * Special interest events are being run by some of the groups on this page based on interest areas, affiliations, or professions.

 * Join your nearest local EA group to attend events they may be running.


 Conferences

 EA Global and EAGx conferences are the main international conferences for the EA community.


 Newsletters

 * The Effective Altruism Newsletter is a joint project between the Centre for Effective Altruism and Rethink Charity that provides news and updates about the effective altruism community.

 * The 80,000 Hours Newsletter provides updates on the latest high-impact roles that 80,000 Hours has identified in the EA community and adjacent fields and highlights their job board.

 * The AI alignment newsletter is a weekly publication with content relevant to AI aslighment.

 * Farmed Animal Welfare newsletter from Open Philanthropy.

 * But Can They Suffer newsletter summarises news, research, discussion, job opportunities, and events related to effective animal advocacy.

 * Effective Environmentalism newsletter is a monthly update on the newest research on effective ways to protect our environment and combat climate change.

 * The Future Perfect project on Vox takes an EA perspective on a large range of issues, including, but not limited to, main EA causes. You can sign up for their newsletter here.

 * You can also sign up for the newsletters of the different EA organisations to stay up to date with their progress.


 Podcasts and Videos

 * The 80,000 Hours Podcast features unusually in-depth conversations on the world’s most pressing problems and how you can use your career to solve them.

 * Watch talks from Effective Altruism conferences on the Centre for Effective Altruism’s youtube channel, or listen to these talks on EA Radio.

 * Rationally Speaking Podcast Julia Galef speaks to guests as they critically explore a wide range of topics in philosophy, psychology, effective altruism, economics, technology, and more.

 * The Future of Life Podcast features Ariel Conn from the Future of Life Institute in conversation with prominent researchers, policy experts, philosophers, and other influential thinkers of all kinds.

 * The Future of Life Institute’s AI Alignment Podcast covers and explores the AI alignment problem across a large variety of domains, reflecting the fundamentally interdisciplinary nature of AI alignment.

 * The Sentience Institute Podcast features interviews with advocates, scientists, and entrepreneurs about the most effective strategies to expand humanity’s moral circle, with an emphasis on expanding the circle to farmed animals.

 * The Future Perfect Podcast studies some of today’s issues with an effective altruist lens. The first season investigates a range of problems and interventions, and the second the pros and cons of big philanthropy.

 * A longer list of relevant podcasts is available here.

 * Many EA organisations have collected their videos on their YouTube channels. See this EA Forum post, which contains links to many of them.

 More resources can also be found on effectivealtruism.org/resources.

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Image: EA Global  This page has links to newsletters, fora, Facebook groups, podcasts, and other ways of keeping connected with the global EA community. Here's a table of contents of this page:      The Effective Altruism Forum contains in-depth posts, articles and questions on EA cause areas. You can get a nuanced understanding of specific cause areas, and see the latest research being done in the community by EA organisations and community members.   These are groups for discussion of EA-related topics. All are Facebook Groups unless otherwise indicated as fora or LinkedIn groups.      Effective Altruism Forum     Main Effective Altruism Group     EA Hangouts (informal facebook group to casually discuss EA and non-EA topics)    The EA Anywhere Group is a group for people who can’t attend local EA groups to have regular online meetings to discuss EA ideas and support each other with their goals to have a positive impact.      Animal Advocacy     Effective Animal Advocacy- Discussion     Reducing Wild Animal Suffering     Wild Animal Suffering Project Discussion     Effective Animal Advocacy Community Directory (A list of people who have indicated that they may be able to support those with interest in the area of animal advocacy)    Artificial Intelligence (AI) Safety     AI Alignment Forum     AI Safety Open Discussion (for everyone, especially beginners)    AI Safety Discussion (people with AI/ML experience or familiarity)    AI Safety &amp; Security     Ethics     Utilitarianism     Negative Utilitarianism and Suffering-Focused Ethics     Long-Term Future     Existential Risk     Global Catastrophic Risk     Improving the Long-term Future and Effective Altruism     Risks of Astronomical Suffering (s-risks)     Other Cause Areas     International Development &amp; Effective Altruism     Cause Prioritisation     Effective Environmentalism     Institutional Decision-Making     Mental Health &amp; Happiness     Policy     System Change     Rationality     LessWrong (Rationality Group)     Coronavirus Discussion     Careers and Volunteering     Careers Discussion     80,000 Hours LinkedIn Group     Job Postings     Effective Altruism Volunteering      These groups are a good place to get feedback on specialized or specific career paths. Relevant job/internship/fellowship opportunities are often posted in these groups.    AI Safety     Academia (general)    Artists and Designers     Biologists    Consultants: Website, Facebook Group     Data Scientists     Effective Altruism Fundamental Research    Medicine/Healthcare:     Facebook Group     EA Medicine website     High Impact Medicine       History     Education     Engineering (Forum Post)    Economics     Entrepreneurs    Finance: Website, LinkedIn     Operations     Policy and Politics (careers)     Marketing &amp; Communications     Media &amp; Journalism     Psychologists     Software, Data &amp; Technology     Athletes (website)      Affiliations and Attributes      Buddhists     Christians     Libertarians     Parents     Politics     Women &amp; Non-binary     Magnify Mentoring (formerly WANBAM) mainly connects and supports a global network of women, trans people of any gender and non-binary people interested in Effective Altruism through mentorship.    LGBTQIA+ people and allies     Underrepresented Racial &amp; Ethnic Groups in EA     Disabled and Chronically Ill People         Earning to Give    EA Giving Tuesday (Website, Facebook Page) - to coordinate donations during Facebook and Paypal’s yearly donation matching campaign    Giving What We Can Community      Community &amp; Community-Building    Group Organizers     EA Group Organizers Facebook Group     EA groups Slack workspace, where you can share resources and ask questions. Sign up here.    EA Groups Newsletter     Community Health     Peer Support Group - This is a private Facebook group to offer support for people dealing with personal problems. Contact Pablo on Facebook to be added.    Diversity and Inclusion in EA     Life Coaching Exchange     Housing/Places to Stay     EA Houses (view spreadsheet here)    EA Hotel / CEAALAR  (in Blackpool, UK)     EA Couchsurfing Facebook Group     EA Housing Slack     Casual Groups     EA Corner Discord Server An informal chat room hosted on Discord, with subthreads on many EA and non-EA related topics.    Effective Altruism Subreddit     Other     Giving Games Discussion Group     Editing and Review (for getting feedback on your work)    EA Project for Awesome (P4A) - for coordinating voting and the creation of videos to funnel prize money to effective charities during an annual fundraiser    Workplace Activism      In-person meetups with like-minded people can be very enjoyable, can help people get more involved in EA and keep up to date with EA related research. Check out the EA Forum Community page to see if there is a local EA group near you. You can also find nearby people in the EA community via the Community Members tab there.     For a wide range of online events, check out the EA online events Facebook group.   The international EA events calendar, curated by several community members, lists high-quality speaker events and large social events suitable for anyone interested in EA. To add an event, fill out this form. If you notice an error in the calendar please email vaidehiagarwalla@gmail.com.   Special interest events are being run by some of the groups on this page based on interest areas, affiliations, or professions.   Join your nearest local EA group to attend events they may be running.      EA Global and EAGx conferences are the main international conferences for the EA community.     The Effective Altruism Newsletter is a joint project between the Centre for Effective Altruism and Rethink Charity that provides news and updates about the effective altruism community.   The 80,000 Hours Newsletter provides updates on the latest high-impact roles that 80,000 Hours has identified in the EA community and adjacent fields and highlights their job board.   The AI alignment newsletter is a weekly publication with content relevant to AI aslighment.    Farmed Animal Welfare newsletter from Open Philanthropy.    But Can They Suffer newsletter summarises news, research, discussion, job opportunities, and events related to effective animal advocacy.    Effective Environmentalism newsletter is a monthly update on the newest research on effective ways to protect our environment and combat climate change.   The Future Perfect project on Vox takes an EA perspective on a large range of issues, including, but not limited to, main EA causes. You can sign up for their newsletter here.   You can also sign up for the newsletters of the different EA organisations to stay up to date with their progress.       The 80,000 Hours Podcast features unusually in-depth conversations on the world’s most pressing problems and how you can use your career to solve them.   Watch talks from Effective Altruism conferences on the Centre for Effective Altruism’s youtube channel, or listen to these talks on EA Radio.    Rationally Speaking Podcast Julia Galef speaks to guests as they critically explore a wide range of topics in philosophy, psychology, effective altruism, economics, technology, and more.   The Future of Life Podcast features Ariel Conn from the Future of Life Institute in conversation with prominent researchers, policy experts, philosophers, and other influential thinkers of all kinds.   The Future of Life Institute’s AI Alignment Podcast covers and explores the AI alignment problem across a large variety of domains, reflecting the fundamentally interdisciplinary nature of AI alignment.     The  Sentience Institute Podcast features interviews with advocates, scientists, and entrepreneurs about the most effective strategies to expand humanity’s moral circle, with an emphasis on expanding the circle to farmed animals.   The Future Perfect Podcast studies some of today’s issues with an effective altruist lens. The first season investigates a range of problems and interventions, and the second the pros and cons of big philanthropy.   A longer list of relevant podcasts is available here.    Many EA organisations have collected their videos on their YouTube channels. See this EA Forum post, which contains links to many of them.   More resources can also be found on effectivealtruism.org/resources.
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