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                     There are a load of RPG's I consider incredibly good like Last Sovereign, Desecration of Wings, Daughter of Essence, Renryu Ascension, Fractured World, Legend of Queen Opala and Roundscape Adorevia.
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                     If we talk about adult games.... well, thats a little harder, since many games never actually get completed. In the end, I guess it would be a tie between "Redemption for Jessika" and "Living with temptation"
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                        The problem is, when I think masterpiece I think of a game i'd happily sink £40 on launch day like a Witcher 3, System Shock 2 or Baldur's Gate.
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                     Although I realise that this different for everybody, I don't really care about the price of a game, what matters is the amount of work that was put in and the fun that you'll get out of it. On one hand this means that I'd gladly pay over $100 for a fantastic game + DLC's on the other hand that I can also enjoy an oldie from the low-price bin sold for $10.
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                     For a non adult game, I would vote for "Star Wars - Knights of Old Republic Online". I played for years and I always come back to try new things, explore unknown maps, try new classes and new stories. I love the feeling of taking a ship and traveling new planets, new landscapes, meeting new people and monsters, doing new adventures. The possibility to date one of my partners was very good. The ingame mails you receive from NPCs you met throughout the story is a very nice thing, adding a deep conception about the plot.
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                     I think Milfy City is a partial masterpiece in terms of the artwork.  The character skin textures and designs are outstanding.
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                     So, uh, I dunno if I've ever played a really masterful adult game. I've played a few with exceptional artwork. I've played some that had an unbelievable amount of content. I've played some that were really good at being porn. I've even played some that actually made me care about the characters. But, uh, I haven't played one that did all of it right to the point where I'd call it a masterpiece. I mean, a masterpiece doesn't need everything that I mentioned, but it should be a game that thunders to the top of the pile. Even games that I really enjoyed I'd be hesitant to call masterpieces.
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                     Why would an adult game need those things you mention?
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                        Here you go. Have fun, if you can get it to work. It's a DOS game, maybe it'll work with DOSBox.
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                     I was basing the similarity off the plot given on the wiki.
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                     Carli tells him the story of how girls on Cobra Island are disappearing at a rapid rate and the mob boss of the Black Gang,
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                     The big boss dude from DA, is believed to be the one causing it. Satoru makes it his job to find and stop whomever is causing the girls to disappear."
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                        I was basing the similarity off the plot given on the wiki.
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                        "The story takes place on a small, fictitious town of Cobra City. Satoru Fujii meets up with his sidekick,
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                     But it must have been 20+ years since I've last played that game...
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                        I didn't want to do it because I hate blowing smoke especially when it's a dev I get along with quite openly but I will have to give this to Notty and Heavy Five.
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                        Hands down. This game became my top favourite almost instantly after mere one chapter. That's pretty much unbeatable.
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                        Superb writing, deep characters with unique personalities and motivations, choices that matter, optionality, intriguing story, background lore, beautiful renders, replayability, immersion... I could go on and on.
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                     I don't really consider any of the porn games I've played to be masterpieces tbh. Honestly a lot of them are low tier shit effort from a dev hoping to make a quick buck and the ones I would consider passable range from mediocre to decent. I imagine theres something decent out there I just gotta play more porn games. Anything that comes remotely close to being a masterpiece would probably be If Adventure Time was an Anime by Mike Inel. If it was a complete game that had a lot more going for it then it might be able to stand on par with The Witcher 3 but while the game mechanics are solid which is some of the best shit I've seen in years in regards to game mechanics in porn games the game still seems very empty. Another honourable mention would be Goblin Walker by Rusimarudou. Game mechanics are solid once again but fights aren't really that challenging and it quickly gets grindy in an unpleasant way.
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                        I didn't want to do it because I hate blowing smoke especially when it's a dev I get along with quite openly but I will have to give this to Notty and Heavy Five.
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                        I've played games I love, i've played games that are amazing but it isn't often I see a game focus so much on little details that may or may not be important further down the line.
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                        When a 0.1 release has a group of people reply it several times over because we kept missing bits you know that by the end it will be a winner. All actions have consequences, sure you can be the bad guy but push it too far and one of the girls may shoot you. It was an extreme but it was an early example of what could happen if we go too far.
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                        Hands down. This game became my top favourite almost instantly after mere one chapter. That's pretty much unbeatable.
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                        Superb writing, deep characters with unique personalities and motivations, choices that matter, optionality, intriguing story, background lore, beautiful renders, replayability, immersion... I could go on and on.
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                     I have to say that I agree with these fine people here. I played it when it was first released and fell in love with it. It has everything, a great story, beautiful renders (not to mention sexy, well not all of them,
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                        I have to say that I agree with these fine people here. I played it when it was first released and fell in love with it. It has everything, a great story, beautiful renders (not to mention sexy, well not all of them,
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                     I always feel bad for picking just 1.
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                     I get on with quite a few devs on here but i've spoken to Notty more or less since I joined the forum during the build up to her game she'd make regular posts and we chatted a bit so I was invested in her work before it came out.
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                     She's always been really good to chat to. I like her, I like her work. Sure i'm a bit of a fangirl but you can't go wrong giving it a go.
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                     IMO, the one adult game I would call a masterpiece (by adult games standards only),
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                     I have pretty much tried all the games on this forum that fit my sexual interest and there aren't any masterpiece games for my sexual interest unfortunately.
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                     For those reasons it is not quite a masterpiece for me. I am an optimist and i keep hoping and looking for a masterpiece.
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                     Final Fantasy VII... always has been, always will be my one an only. Only one close to it would be Zelda: Ocarina of Time
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                     This is a really good game except for the ending, rushed and don't really finish anything, and the reason behind the accident of the girlfriend is for me a deception. The creepy man of the hospital would be a better reason
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                        This is a really good game except for the ending, rushed and don't really finish anything, and the reason behind the accident of the girlfriend is for me a deception. The creepy man of the hospital would be a better reason
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