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                     Hello guys, i am since recently a programmer who is quite good with C but it is not the best to create games and so i though that learning a language and using it for "Important" stuff could be fun.
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                        What language you use depends on what kind of game you want to make.
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                        Do you want to have real-time 3D models?  Then you probably want to use
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                        .
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                        Is it more of an RPG-style game?  Then you probably want some version of
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                        Are you able to make a bunch of art for it and are looking for more story?  Then probably
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                        .
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                         Twine
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                     Well honestly i was thinking of a language like C++ java python in order to get used to using it and to be able to use it for work while doing something fun,
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                     I am high level in c and i have a friend who dabble in python that will help me (i also know a bit of python)
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                     We were thinking of making a rpg fantasy with between one or three picture by scene at the end of a combat/interaction with lot of text to complement it
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                     I made a runner, a shooter and a combat system in csfml but i don t think it is the best way to make a good game
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                        Oh boy the ever more popular reply don't work in engines.
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                        Sorry but if you want a job in any game company you always start off as an intern.
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                        Get to work as a grunt worker then get to know your coworkers.
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                        and after all the coding you got to show for is a rotating cube with texture applied.
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                        Unless you create an engine that rivals the competition people will just stick with what they got.
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                        They never hire programmers that show the bare bones in their portfolio.
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