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                     I'm just curious what you guys here this of the whole pirating porn games off patreon.
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                     I know this is a site for exactly that but some of the members are patreons and I would be too if I had the money but what caught my attention today was how the developers of Timestamps delayed the update as they saw a decline in patreons.
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                     What happens if they fuck up another update and the decline continues? They just quit making it?
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                     How should the patrons that gave them money all previous months for developing the game feel then, not even getting a finished product?
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                     I understand that being a patron has that gamble and I understand that we wouldn't see so much games without patreon but asking for more money just to continue developing something most developers "do for fun and in their own time/as a hobby" is just straight bullshit.
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                     I don't want to bash on Motkeyz because I didn't really follow the game for long and I really like it, it's just that the whole thing got me thinking and I'd like to hear what people think about such things.
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                     There are quite some game out here tagged abandoned or on hold that got funded through patreon while being developed and lots of developers that don't comunicate and take their time with updates all while releasing updates with little to no content.
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                        It's really up to the developers to be clear about updates and when they receive pledges (per update or per month) and the patrons are free to stop support any time.
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                        those 230 really support your game and shouldn't have a promise broken because you don't plan ahead. But then again El Bacca is a patron and doesn't seem upset about it.
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                     Agree 100% ! But i wasn't upset because they warned us in advance and the delay is only 7 days so not upset indeed
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                     SO yeah, I can't be there 24/7 and I can't always work 8h a day on one of the games... so it effectively slows down the process of making those said games. If I'd get enough through i.e. patreon I'd work 8-12h a day on those games, but since I have to go to 12h nightshifts (3x) this weekend alone, there isn't much time to work on them. And if because of some more shifts I'd have to delay a game, well yes that's bad but that can and will always happen. You can't plan 100% accurately with something like patreon... It won't ever work unless you're one of the lucky big hitters.... And who knows how long it works for some of them.... So I can definitely understand why a "delay" can happen, and I wouldn't be upset even as a patron. It's just life, it's unpredictable at times....
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                        The day one of your kid call you "Mister" that you will be the final sign to react
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                     Money is quite a taboo subject in my country, if you are making a lot it seems suspicious, apparently it is not the only one land like that.
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                     well im a patreon of motz aswell, so i guess all pirates have to take my opinion with a grain of salt
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                     i have to say i agree with everything said by Chew.
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                     myself i accually raised the amount of my support just days before we talked about "this" in the chatroom.
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                     offcouse i understand that its frustrating with 30k players and 200ish payers but i never saw that as the main subject but rather a bit of venting.. while airing the real issue,
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                     Time vs Quality.  but then again it was ofc easier for me becasue i was in the chat talking with the crew because they are basically on 24/7. from my point of view Motz and Aeso wants to deliver topquality and substance and they have been burning the "midnight oil" so to say for a long time to keep the schedule, and that amount of worktime/load isnt sustainable without eventually burning out.
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                     so to keep releasing the same quality/substance per update they need more time, myself i worked 12-16h shifts the last two months bearly seeing my kids, so i cant really faulter them for trying to balance life/work better
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                        Valid point.
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                        funny fact if you check his page:
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                     I also noticed there is no public version at all. Unless I missed it somewhere on their patreon.
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                        I also noticed there is no public version at all. Unless I missed it somewhere on their patreon.
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                     NO there is no public release on patreon by security, but those who would like the game know where to find it
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                     I can't talk about the game that you mention, but being strict to the title.
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                     I would like to notice that the biggest adult games creator on Patreon (in number of patrons) is DarkCookie, and he give the full content for free. The high tiers are related to better download options and communication tools. I don't believe that a drop in the number of patrons has anything related to someone else sharing your game without consent.
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                     We commonly talk about game projects involving 3 roles: the writer, the animator and the programmer. But in fact the project also involve more 2 roles: the manager and the advertiser/social media. Roles doesn't mean persons, one person can act in multiple roles. They make part of project, you can't suppress a role and expect that everything will be just fine.
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                     Patreon is a site where ppl can say, I like what you do, here have some sponsorship money. It's not my main income. I have a 08h00-17h00 job and I work on my game at nights and weekends. My wife does not like it but she knows it's a hobby I like, creating that is.
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                        It is worth mentioning in regards to timestamps not having a free public version (like say summertime saga), that you only need to make a 1 dollar pledge to access the game.
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                     Well, we are Forbidden to post any public link on patreon...I mean links for NSFW material ofc.
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