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                     Apologies in advance if the topic has already been discussed, but on a quick search of NTR, I could only find games and a thread with recommendations.
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                     I was wondering why are people so hellbent against NTR? Each of us has their own preferences when it comes to games or life choices, but I doubt that playing a game with NTR content will turn anyone into a cuckold and he/she will start sharing their partner around.
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                     Furthermore, how can one ask of a developer to "remove NTR cause it's sh*t and f*ck that"? Each game should be the dev's vision, slightly adjusted to the market he's reaching for.
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                     Shouldn't one commision his own game from a developer if one has specific requests for a game?
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                        I was wondering why are people so hellbent against NTR? Each of us has their own preferences when it comes to games or life choices, but I doubt that playing a game with NTR content will turn anyone into a cuckold and he/she will start sharing their partner around.
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                     As you said. Everyone has their own preferences. Some people can't stand NTR. It's their good right to dislike it, just as much as it is my good right to hate gore in porn.
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                        Furthermore, how can one ask of a developer to "remove NTR cause it's sh*t and f*ck that"? Each game should be the dev's vision, slightly adjusted to the market he's reaching for.
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                     I agree, that it's stupid to try and make a dev change his game. But the thing is that it works. That's what happened to big brother for example.
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                     I don't really care about it. I can fap to both games with and without NTR. I don't insert myself into the game, so I don't feel cucked, when some imaginary wife gets fucked by some stranger. Same reason why I don't mind playing female protag games. I don't need to be a woman to fap to a game where the protag is a woman.
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                     Both sides, who like and don't like it have stupid people, a lot of them.
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                     And each side creates more of them.
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                     Let's say we have a game without ntr... Some guy comes and says: "this game needs ntr please make ntr please please" -- it annoys unstable people and they write hateful things.
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                     Same happens with ntr games...
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                     Some guy comes and says: "this game would've been better without ntr, ntr is shit, fak u cucks" -- and that forces aggressive ntr lover's rude responses.
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                     I'm not against ntr, but I don't like it either.
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                     After a few attempts to talk with both ntr lovers and haters I came to a conclusion, that most of those people either have brain damage or trolling. I'm talking about those, who keep posting requests and trash talking, like an example above.
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                        Partly tribalism, people say stupid shit and get likes from their online tribe who hate the same thing which obviously means you should keep saying the same thing over and over to get even more likes. People like feeling as if they belong to a group and saying something you know will get you likes emulates that feeling. Young men are desperate for it.
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                     What? It isn't about that at all. Sounds like you have something against a group of people on this forum, and that has nothing to do with this debate whatsoever.
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                     Why is it hard to accept that the feeling of getting cucked isn't something most players want?
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                     In response to op. In this weird business, most devs aren't selling their game, they're getting crowdfunded to develop it. That's why opinion of your playerbase is important (although it shouldn't be always the deciding factor). Compare this to steam, there you go and buy a game, it'll either be a complete game (really hard to find here) or a game you're supporting to develop but with a one time fee, either case you know what you're paying for, how much you're paying and what is in there, back to patreon, you're sending money to a creator you don't know, for all you know he doesn't really care about the game but more about the money and you pay monthly without knowing what they'll do next or if they'll even finish the game.
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                     That said and back to the ntr theme, I personally can't play it, I just don't like it, in the same way I can't play female protagonist games, if I didn't want to at least try to immerse myself then idk why I'd be playing the game when I could watch much better quality porn or comics elsewhere and be done with it, and then play a regular game.
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                     At the same time, I think some NTR is sometimes needed at the start of the story (and then allow you to get rid of it), which isn't done for the fear of backlash, most incest games are so repetitive, everyone, even your mom, is single and a virgin... That's something you can do for one character, but it gets boring. Love and submission does this thing where (besides allowing you to go with 600 paths) your mom is actually going on a date on one of the first days, and based on your choices she'll come home with him or alone, I wouldn't choose to share her, but the fact that a youngish single really good looking woman is going on dates makes it more rich.
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                     Closing up, I hate ntr, but when I see a game has it as one of it's tags, I just don't play it, I don't go on the thread to talk about how everyone is a cuck or shit like that, because I understand that it's not a game for me and end of the story. Like when ntr fans or fem protag fans bash you because you don't like a game "IT'S A GAME" "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE YOU", I think everyone should be just allowed to play a game however and for whatever reason they want, if you want to play it for the porn or the story, do it.
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                     And connecting to the patreon vs steam thing I wrote before, problem comes when you support a dev for months (sometimes support isn't only about being a patron) for their game, and all of the sudden they add something like ntr when they never listed it as something they'd do. That ruins the game FOR ME and I think I have the right to speak out in those cases, since I was led into the game and it changed into something I can't play anymore.
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                     There is always worse thing, now I strongly dislike NTR for many reason,  one of them is that most of the time it's a damn waste of talent, but and that's the crucial point while I will voice my dislike of it , I do not judge people who do. Everyone have their kinks and so on, advising in a polite and constructive manner that a game would be better in your opinion without NTR, or at the very least with the option to turn the table and bring the might of the baseball bat of justice to the head of the NTR , on the other hand is perfectly  acceptable.
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                        What? It isn't about that at all. Sounds like you have something against a group of people on this forum, and that has nothing to do with this debate whatsoever.
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                        Why is it hard to accept that the feeling of getting cucked isn't something most players want?
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                        In response to op. In this weird business, most devs aren't selling their game, they're getting crowdfunded to develop it. That's why opinion of your playerbase is important (although it shouldn't be always the deciding factor). Compare this to steam, there you go and buy a game, it'll either be a complete game (really hard to find here) or a game you're supporting to develop but with a one time fee, either case you know what you're paying for, how much you're paying and what is in there, back to patreon, you're sending money to a creator you don't know, for all you know he doesn't really care about the game but more about the money and you pay monthly without knowing what they'll do next or if they'll even finish the game.
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                        That said and back to the ntr theme, I personally can't play it, I just don't like it, in the same way I can't play female protagonist games, if I didn't want to at least try to immerse myself then idk why I'd be playing the game when I could watch much better quality porn or comics elsewhere and be done with it, and then play a regular game.
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                        At the same time, I think some NTR is sometimes needed at the start of the story (and then allow you to get rid of it), which isn't done for the fear of backlash, most incest games are so repetitive, everyone, even your mom, is single and a virgin... That's something you can do for one character, but it gets boring. Love and submission does this thing where (besides allowing you to go with 600 paths) your mom is actually going on a date on one of the first days, and based on your choices she'll come home with him or alone, I wouldn't choose to share her, but the fact that a youngish single really good looking woman is going on dates makes it more rich.
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                        Closing up, I hate ntr, but when I see a game has it as one of it's tags, I just don't play it, I don't go on the thread to talk about how everyone is a cuck or shit like that, because I understand that it's not a game for me and end of the story. Like when ntr fans or fem protag fans bash you because you don't like a game "IT'S A GAME" "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE YOU", I think everyone should be just allowed to play a game however and for whatever reason they want, if you want to play it for the porn or the story, do it.
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                        And connecting to the patreon vs steam thing I wrote before, problem comes when you support a dev for months (sometimes support isn't only about being a patron) for their game, and all of the sudden they add something like ntr when they never listed it as something they'd do. That ruins the game FOR ME and I think I have the right to speak out in those cases, since I was led into the game and it changed into something I can't play anymore.
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                     Should the devs be upfront and self-aware enough to make it optional? Yes. I don't have an NTR tag on my game, but there is an optional path with LOTS of warnings that this girl is interested in being shared. There should be an optional tag
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                        As a woman, I might not be the best at explaining this.
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                        While I would agree that men have a very fragile ego, really it's kind of everyone, I would like to point out that NTR  is not entirely akin to cheating. NTR is a plot that force the MC into a position where is love interest is being subjugated by someone else into doing something contrary to their nature. Most of the time ending degrading themselves and by extension the MC. The shame of being cuckolded plays a major role in that yes, but in the end it's the inevitable betrayal that sting or arouse .
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                        The cheating part , without going into the debate as to whether female or male cheating is more socially acceptable, it shouldn't but it is, it indeed plays to the "alpha" bs mythology  is not really the point, just the tool.
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                     I agree. But I think NTR has grown to ''anything a female does but not with me.'
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                        Should the devs be upfront and self-aware enough to make it optional? Yes. I don't have an NTR tag on my game, but there is an optional path with LOTS of warnings that this girl is interested in being shared. There should be an optional tag
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                     Answering to both your posts, I don't think I have any of the complex you mentioned first, and still don't like NTR, it's a good point that no-one cares when the girls are being cheated-on, but it's also worth mentioning that the majority of the playerbase are guys, and harems / harem fantasies have been around way longer than trucks and pink shirts.
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                     I'd even agree with you that guys in general make more fuss about a girl cheating than a guy, but what I'd say is that they should care more when it's a guy, instead of "not caring as much" when it's the woman cheating.
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                     As for your second post, I think that devs have a commitment to their patrons, despite what you're saying being true. I also believe that patrons aren't anywhere near punishing enough when you get rolling, but what I ask myself is where do you draw that line? Start with a game, a couple months later change who the story focuses on, then add opt-in ntr, then change it into female protagonist, then make it a comic, then drop that and post cosplay.
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                     I probably wouldn't mind some of these in some games, but shouldn't your vision be lineal with the game that made people support you? You can always finish that and make another one with what you learned and what you now know you want to explore.
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                     To give an example of this, idk if you're familiar with novel, they're making the game "Twists of my life" and also a comic with the same characters (and I think story), if he were to stop the game, I'm sure people would still support his comic, it's of the same line as the game, with good quality. But if they were to drop the game and the comic, and started rendering cars, I THINK their support from the adult-games pool should decrease, while they get patrons from car forums, that has proven not to be the case or at least it's a VERY slow drain (teacher's pets for a concrete example).
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                     Also what you point at that might be read as "I'll do what I want and if they want to support me so be it, elsewhere the door is right there" (I think that's not what you meant, but it could be seen that way). Say that I spend hours chatting with you about the game, we bounce some ideas, talk about where you see it comming, etc, and you say you'd never introduce, say killing characters (just to drop the ntr thing for a sec) and I love what you're making and where you want to take it, so I become a $50 patron for a year and a half, and then you change your view and kill one of the main characters, don't you feel like that's like a betrayal (don't know any softer word) to me and everything you once said? I was supporting you for the longest time because I wanted to see you finish that thing you envisioned in the first place, but then you changed and I'm supposed to leave empty handed with less money on my wallet?
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                     I personally don't really like when you get to see a girl you're not with is with someone else, I don't see any reason to show them fucking, but as I said before, it's sometimes good and necessary to have them have other relationships to make the story more rich.
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                        I agree. But I think NTR has grown to ''anything a female does but not with me.'
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                        In Big Brother, Eric sleeps with his girlfriend? NTR.
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                     You are kind of right but with BB it was a bit different, before Eric show up  you are kind of led to think your job is to get it on with the 3 FC. When he shows up suddenly he has control and access to the 3 women and his slowly corrupting them and rubbing your nose in it. Which is NTR.
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                     Now indeed, and notably with taffy tale by example people  raise the NTR flag vehemently and forcibly instead of just being patient. Perhaps because they think their outrage is going to sway the game around.
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                     Personally I just don't like how most fetishes are optional in a game, while I can understand it, but it makes the game much worse in multiple aspects. In adult games you can't be defeated or have any hard fight at all, even in those that you can be defeated is just a bad ending, one game that was quite impressive for me was dark elf in this aspect (you can find it on steam but with a so-so translation), this game had multiple routes based on if you were defeated, raped... at some point in the game (you area female MC).
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                        Personally I only play games with NTR when it isn't the forced type, that doesn't mean that it's optional but that by playing well it can be evaded.
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                        Personally I just don't like how most fetishes are optional in a game, while I can understand it, but it makes the game much worse in multiple aspects. In adult games you can't be defeated or have any hard fight at all, even in those that you can be defeated is just a bad ending, one game that was quite impressive for me was dark elf in this aspect (you can find it on steam but with a so-so translation), this game had multiple routes based on if you were defeated, raped... at some point in the game (you area female MC).
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                        Even if the game has content that I don't like, just give me the option to skip the sex scene or perhaps only read the text without seeing the images, that's all I would need.
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                     I have a problem generally with avoidable ntr or avoidable things in general in adult games. Adult games work differently from regular games. If you play dark souls, you can spend hours and hours trying to kill that boss and failing, trying new things, so when you advance the game rewards you for it. With adult games it's not like that at all, the focus is mostly on the porn and in some vns or particular games (and better imo) the stories/relationships.
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                     The only thing that could be somewhat similar to rewarding you for doing better would be either different playstyle which is impossible at the moment to ask for someone to make gta (for example) style games with current budgets and technology available, and even if you could, who would sit 3 hours to get a porn scene?
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                     Another option would be hiding information and then try for the player to use what they read maybe as a side story to solve different situations. But lets be honest, if that was the case, we'd just look up a walkthrough, we don't like reading (I do, but I mean in general).
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                     That leaves you with the only way to make people work for rewards, which is grinding, that is annoying, disgusting and we end up using cheats to bypass it.
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                     That leaves no viable options to reward the player for something, except maybe something like management, but that also falls into the walkthrough/cheats category.
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                     As for the optional NTR or w/e. If you played my girlfriend's amnesia you'll know what I'm talking about.
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                     In most cases the NTR is there whether you see it or not, and there's no reason for it to be, meaning that it's not like you come into your house after 12 years and your best friend is now married, no, it's your girlfriend already.
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                     On top of that she gets raped/molested, and what I see as the problem is that even if you do everything correctly and manage to avoid it, there isn't a scene to show you that didn't happen, you either watch your gf get raped (with how I hate rape and those sketchy themes that seem to be the norm now) or you see nothing and she wakes up with a sore pussy. To avoid the extra work, they don't add that scene of you sitting next to her waiting for her to wake up.
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                     The tyrant is another example, you do everything right, have them all happy, then your mom is in the basement sucking dick but you don't see it, and tyrone or whatever he's called is talking to your sister in the barn, you just don't see it.
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                        I have a problem generally with avoidable ntr or avoidable things in general in adult games. Adult games work differently from regular games. If you play dark souls, you can spend hours and hours trying to kill that boss and failing, trying new things, so when you advance the game rewards you for it. With adult games it's not like that at all, the focus is mostly on the porn and in some vns or particular games (and better imo) the stories/relationships.
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                        The only thing that could be somewhat similar to rewarding you for doing better would be either different playstyle which is impossible at the moment to ask for someone to make gta (for example) style games with current budgets and technology available, and even if you could, who would sit 3 hours to get a porn scene?
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                        Another option would be hiding information and then try for the player to use what they read maybe as a side story to solve different situations. But lets be honest, if that was the case, we'd just look up a walkthrough, we don't like reading (I do, but I mean in general).
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                        That leaves you with the only way to make people work for rewards, which is grinding, that is annoying, disgusting and we end up using cheats to bypass it.
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                        That leaves no viable options to reward the player for something, except maybe something like management, but that also falls into the walkthrough/cheats category.
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                        As for the optional NTR or w/e. If you played my girlfriend's amnesia you'll know what I'm talking about.
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                        In most cases the NTR is there whether you see it or not, and there's no reason for it to be, meaning that it's not like you come into your house after 12 years and your best friend is now married, no, it's your girlfriend already.
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                        On top of that she gets raped/molested, and what I see as the problem is that even if you do everything correctly and manage to avoid it, there isn't a scene to show you that didn't happen, you either watch your gf get raped (with how I hate rape and those sketchy themes that seem to be the norm now) or you see nothing and she wakes up with a sore pussy. To avoid the extra work, they don't add that scene of you sitting next to her waiting for her to wake up.
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                        The tyrant is another example, you do everything right, have them all happy, then your mom is in the basement sucking dick but you don't see it, and tyrone or whatever he's called is talking to your sister in the barn, you just don't see it.
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                     Can't speak for everyone, but my game has an overall linear plot with choices for sex scenes. The same way you can't tell what a real life couple has for a sex life. The overall plot shouldn't be affected if, for example, you add another guy or another girl, or prefer anal over oral. Clever writing (which I don't have but am working on) can keep the overall plot continuing, with dialogue changes in non-sex scenes to reflect your choices.
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                        Can't speak for everyone, but my game has an overall linear plot with choices for sex scenes. The same way you can't tell what a real life couple has for a sex life. The overall plot shouldn't be affected if, for example, you add another guy or another girl, or prefer anal over oral. Clever writing (which I don't have but am working on) can keep the overall plot continuing, with dialogue changes in non-sex scenes to reflect your choices.
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                     Well, that's the VN way, which is one of the better ones if you ask me, but it still falls under the walkthrough doom.
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                     I'm talking for myself here, but I always play without a walkthrough until I've finished the game once or twice or I'm stuck. But looking at love and submission that also has a linear story, you can visit the walkthrough here and it'll tell you exactly which choices will do what. Want to share mom? tell her you're happy with her dating on day 1, Want to share sister? Tell the guy to go after her. So when and if you achieve that juicy ending that maybe took you a few tries or you experimented along the way, it's good because you did it, but at the same time (again, talking about myself) doesn't feel as rewarding because something like the walkthrough exists.
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                     It isn't like.. (making this up, haven't actually played) killing the hardest world of warcraft boss and getting great gear, that's rewarding because you did it and if someone else wants to do it they have to put the same amount of effort you did.
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                        I have a problem generally with avoidable ntr or avoidable things in general in adult games. Adult games work differently from regular games. If you play dark souls, you can spend hours and hours trying to kill that boss and failing, trying new things, so when you advance the game rewards you for it. With adult games it's not like that at all, the focus is mostly on the porn and in some vns or particular games (and better imo) the stories/relationships.
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                        The only thing that could be somewhat similar to rewarding you for doing better would be either different playstyle which is impossible at the moment to ask for someone to make gta (for example) style games with current budgets and technology available, and even if you could, who would sit 3 hours to get a porn scene?
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                        Another option would be hiding information and then try for the player to use what they read maybe as a side story to solve different situations. But lets be honest, if that was the case, we'd just look up a walkthrough, we don't like reading (I do, but I mean in general).
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                        That leaves you with the only way to make people work for rewards, which is grinding, that is annoying, disgusting and we end up using cheats to bypass it.
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                        That leaves no viable options to reward the player for something, except maybe something like management, but that also falls into the walkthrough/cheats category.
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                        As for the optional NTR or w/e. If you played my girlfriend's amnesia you'll know what I'm talking about.
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                        In most cases the NTR is there whether you see it or not, and there's no reason for it to be, meaning that it's not like you come into your house after 12 years and your best friend is now married, no, it's your girlfriend already.
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                        On top of that she gets raped/molested, and what I see as the problem is that even if you do everything correctly and manage to avoid it, there isn't a scene to show you that didn't happen, you either watch your gf get raped (with how I hate rape and those sketchy themes that seem to be the norm now) or you see nothing and she wakes up with a sore pussy. To avoid the extra work, they don't add that scene of you sitting next to her waiting for her to wake up.
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                        The tyrant is another example, you do everything right, have them all happy, then your mom is in the basement sucking dick but you don't see it, and tyrone or whatever he's called is talking to your sister in the barn, you just don't see it.
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                     My girlfriend amnesia is extremely bad on NTR, in fact I have so many issues with the game that if I start I won't stop. I couldn't play the NTR on that game because of how bad I felt it was.
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                     So many problems with this theory, first let's take it to the animal kingdom and apply it to a Lion's pride he has just conquered, he first kills all the cubs and he tolerates NO cheating, any males that threatens to do so will trigger an attack from the alpha male that unless one backs down will go to the death of one or the other. Secondly if you did use a "cheating" species like some birds the males that they cheated on don't hang around the corner to watch their mate screw another bird. Thankfully most humans are like the lions and in RL someone would end up hurt or dead and do so everyday because of the "Love Triangle". We're not against the group we just don't want to play the games with the genre. We don't like being tricked into playing them either by improper tagging of the games.
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                        So many problems with this theory, first let's take it to the animal kingdom and apply it to a Lion's pride he has just concurred, he first kills all the cubs and he tolerates NO cheating, any males that threatens to do so will trigger an attack from the alpha male that unless one backs down will go to the death of one or the other. Secondly if you did use a "cheating" species like some birds the males that they cheated on don't hang around the corner to watch their mate screw another bird. Thankfully most humans are like the lions and in RL someone would end up hurt or dead and do so everyday because of the "Love Triangle". We're not against the group we just don't want to play the games with the genre. We don't like being tricked into playing them either by improper tagging of the games.
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                     The name of the post is 'why the hate,' not 'why the dislike.' I can totally understand not liking a fetish and not wanting to play games with it. If it pops up in a game that it's not tagged in, that is dev's fault, not the fans who like the fetish.
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                        The name of the post is 'why the hate,' not 'why the dislike.' I can totally understand not liking a fetish and not wanting to play games with it. If it pops up in a game that it's not tagged in, that is dev's fault, not the fans who like the fetish.
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                     Well it is the whole ntr crowd's fault and this site's fault. Let me explain. They claim a loophole in which they use a subset of the fetish and claim it's not by definition ntr and claim it to be something else, e.g. cock holding... the fans in the game that were baited by the incest fetish tag and no ntr tag have no interest in learning the multiple definitions of the fetish they care nothing about besides it would not do them any good to learn them as the game doesn't have any of those tags as well. I've been banned several times since yesterday for complaining about My Sister, My Roommate, not being tagged properly. despite the claim by the developer that the sister will NEVER be an interest for the MC and will fuck whomever, it still has the incest tag and NO ntr tag even now.
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                       It's hated because for many people the idea of a partner cheating on them is horrifying at best. I'm talking about the games/concepts where the loyal boyfriend/husband is outright shamed or totally misled into having his partner railed by everyone but him, not the concept of two people in a consenting open relationship
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                       (this one is personal) I hate it because it interferes with my fetish, which is Impregnation. I just want a game/title/comic/video that's about two goddamn consenting adults in a long term committed relationship having loving sex for the purpose of pregnancy. The NTR/Cuckholidng tag is a blight on impregnation. What seems like 75% of all doujins that feature impregnation are a charter being knocked up by a rapist/boyfriends boss/some fat smelly idiot. Even when it comes to real porn, most of the videos that have a plot of impregnation are "Wife bred by black bull" or "Husband watches as friend knocks up wife." It's easier to find videos of women pretending to be androids than it is to find a porno about a couple trying for a child!
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                     From "the other" perspective and from someone who once had a partner with a fetish to see me with other people I honestly can't explain it either.
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                        You are kind of right but with BB it was a bit different, before Eric show up  you are kind of led to think your job is to get it on with the 3 FC. When he shows up suddenly he has control and access to the 3 women and his slowly corrupting them and rubbing your nose in it. Which is NTR.
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                     You are not right, Your love interest in a game has sex but not with you yet? - it's not NTR, Ntr is only when the girl or the wife of the main character changes, that's what NTR is
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                     I think there is a lot of hate for many reasons but the main one is ignorance, People argue about NTR as they don't actually know what NTR is. They use things like the urban dictionary (no better than wikipedia) that wrongly categorises NTR as cuckolding. Any time a guy fucks any girl in the game who you speak to they claim NTR. Now the ironic thing about NTR is it is supposed to create feeling of jealousy and anger in the reader so in this case for the anti NTR crowd it actually is working. The problem being they are using a Japanese name for a western attitude. The difference between NTR and Cuckolding is that the partner never has to know in NTR whereas in cuckolding it is a requiremnet
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                     I think this is the main reason why NTR gets the hate that it gets.
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                     Games which are clearly about NTR / cheating / cuckolding in the beginning, I have no problems with at all. Even if it may not be my cup of tea. If I do play them, I am careful not to identify myself with the MC. Moreso than in another game without NTR.
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                        I think there is a lot of hate for many reasons but the main one is ignorance, People argue about NTR as they don't actually know what NTR is.
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                     That may be true, but the vast majority here is not Japanese and many don't have a lot of knowledge about Japanese culture, Japanese language or Japanese porn. Hence the Japanese definition of NTR is not the same as what most people on this forum think is NTR. But since we are here on this forum, and not Japan, or on a specifically Japanese game forum, it doesn't make sense to argue about this.
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                        That may be true, but the vast majority here is not Japanese and many don't have a lot of knowledge about Japanese culture, Japanese language or Japanese porn. Hence the Japanese definition of NTR is not the same as what most people on this forum think is NTR. But since we are here on this forum, and not Japan, or on a specifically Japanese game forum, it doesn't make sense to argue about this.
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                     The vast majority of members here not being Japanese and not knowing much of Japanese culture, language, etc, doesn't mean we should allow people to redefine something they don't fully understand. NTR isn't one of my fetishes, but allowing people to redefine what should be considered NTR simply because they aren't Japanese or simply ignorant, makes things messy. It shouldn't be this convoluted.
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                     I just pulled that example out of my ass but I'm almost positive that's happened many times on here. It's why IMO it's so important we stick to the one definition of NTR. Anything else and you're just anti-voyuerism
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                        The vast majority of members here not being Japanese and not knowing much of Japanese culture, language, etc, doesn't mean we should allow people to redefine something they don't fully understand. NTR isn't one of my fetishes, but allowing people to redefine what should be considered NTR simply because they aren't Japanese or simply ignorant, makes things messy. It shouldn't be this convoluted.
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                     Yet it is convoluted.
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                     Personally, sometimes I even don't get the argument, but that's probably because I'm not Japanese nor have a PhD in Japanese culture...:test:
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                        The thing about that though is like you were saying earlier, you can understand people being mad about ntr in a game if they aren't notified or warned about it. But that becomes an issue if they weren't warned about it because it only matched
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                     Exactly. That's why I think that maybe (in the context of this forum) the definition of NTR should be broader than what is considered NTR in Japan, as it would avoid some discussion and compliants from hordes of unwashed round-eyed barbarians.
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                        It was My Girlfriend's Amnesia by Daniels K and I should correct myself some of the content that was removed was NTR as well. The 8chan harlot trainer game board/community is rabidly anti-NTR to the point its basically the ongoing joke of the board, far more extreme about it than f95zone and it's already kinda the joke here. They wanted to basically sage the game because of introduced NTR content but NTR isn't against patreon rules so they collectively decided to report for non-con and whatever else they could. This resulted in a different direction for development - they censored stuff they never intended and the game ended up being a massive NTR festival anyway. Well done retards.
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                     OOC what was the content. I'm familiar with the game but I never got around to it
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                     Dunno... In my opinion, the unavoidable NTR in My Girlfriend's Amnesia was quite minor. In this one scene, I don't think anything really bad happened and it didn't destroy or damage the relationship with the MC and his GF in any way.
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                        Exactly. That's why I think that maybe (in the context of this forum) the definition of NTR should be broader than what is considered NTR in Japan, as it would avoid some discussion and compliants from hordes of unwashed round-eyed barbarians.
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                     I strongly disagree that we should broaden the definition of NTR. If we do that we throw out the point of definitions. So let us say we do broaden it for the special snowflakes. Who is to say those same special snowflakes or new special snowflakes wanting to redefine yet again what should be considered NTR. That is what you leave us open to if we allow to broaden the definition. You're opening the door to allow anyone to challenge what should be considered NTR to the point anything can be considered NTR.
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                     Lets not forget there are some special people out there who now believe going up to a female stranger and giving them a legitimate compliment(not a catcall), or saying simply hello as harassment, because they want to broaden what should be considered as harassment.
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                     All I'm saying is, that a lot of people cry "NTR" and hate the game in question, even though the event they hate would technically not be NTR in the classical sense, apparently. There is a clear discrepancy with what a large number of people on this forum think is NTR and what is actual NTR according some learned experts:
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                     Which seems to be wrong as well.
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                     So... What EXACTLY is it that "people" get worked up about??? And why is that NTR (or not)?
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                     Apparently significant enough to get non-NTR content removed or changed from games because they want it so. And that's a problem.
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                     If NTR means, you see your girlfriend stolen, without chance of stopping this, I don't like it. (Can still fap to this, but don't like it...)
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                     If NTR means, you have a competition with one or more opponents, which could also lead to "see" her having sex with someone else, this really turns me on. Either I can have sex with her, or I can just see me failing, and she will get fucked too.
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                     2 thing a person should never ever mess with----&gt;someone's else money &amp; his woman/life partner,
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                     as for me i don't like bad endings in fictions........even if they were good,
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                     There is a big dividing line between porn and games but in hentai games the line is more confusing, personally I like the sense of achievement and I like to be able to beat a good antagonist. It doesn't truly matter me if I lose at first because what it matters is if I can win in the end.
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                     To obtain this sense of achievement I always need the polar opposite action, to romance it's NTR, to maledom it's femdom, to mind control... you guess it, it's being mind-controlled. When you have only one of those the game is telling you that you will win or lose automatically, which kind of kills the feeling of the game.
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                     That's basically what I like, I absolutely dislike playing to lose or choosing to lose, things that are too easy aren't worth it. In fact I can't truly understand why make it a game and not a visual novel if you are supposed to win or lose automatically, that's a story, not a game.
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                     Flight attendants are there to attend to passengers, not to complain about having to listen to their complaints. If they don't like what the passengers are complaining about, that's fine: they can do some other job.
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                     Tons of things that I consider wrong for those rushing to defend their fetish...
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                     1. Number one with a bullet is always the damn same excuse... "dont self insert as the MC"... Its so overused I am sick of hearing it... someone needs to pronto make a topic with a poll asking the f95 users how many self insert as the MC in these games... I am positive less than 40% will say they do... meaning hating NTR hardly has to do with thinking YOU the player feel as if the pixelated women on screen are cheating on you... and everything to do with YOU the player wanting your MC to succeed whether you play him as an upstanding guy or kind of an ass... In most stories you dont even get to define his personality... Say Jensen (Retrieving the Past) he's an upstanding dude, just there to help people and even defends tons of women from being raped, why anyone would want him to "lose" and watch the people he cares about get raped/fucked is beyond me...
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                     2. OMG this one also pisses me off, but its circumstantial... using the excuse that "its family mom/sis/aunt/cousin" therefore it cant be NTR... YES the fuck it CAN !!! If the premise of the story already starts with the the related characters already fucking or in a relationship only to enter some douchebag in the 2nd act that takes her away, its ****ing NTR, no two ways about it !! Again its CIRCUMSTANTIAL !! In the case of "Big Brother" there was no NTR at first, Eric got to the mom before Max, people needed to chill the hell out... however once he started with Kira, and mentioned his attempts at Alice, and plans for LIsa, those WERE NTR... cause unless you were total shit at the game, Max already was drilling Alice on her webcam, and fucking Kira's brains out every time the family was out of the house, and Lisa was already Max's girlfriend if you went that route.
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                     3. Moving the goalposts... NTR and Cuckholding at this point should be considered separate fetishes whether people like it or not...
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                     A) The "western" cuckholding is when the man is ok and even likes getting shamed while his wife is fucked by a *groan* "bull"... Its stupid nonsensical (to me), but I can tolerate it so long as the MC is the woman or if the MC I am playing is male, but has no choices to make in the game other than witness or skip... that way I can assume he was always a pumpless loser that deserves his woman being taken by others.
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                     B) The eastern NTR is basically defined by a simple sentence that doesnt take rocket science... its a fetish meant to instill feelings of helplessness/impotence and jealousy/anger in both the MC, and the player/watcher/reader. Thats it, no clauses for family vs non family or any other shit...
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                     The most pouplar hentai ovas/comics in japan for a long time were the "Yamahime No" series... Yamahime no Hana, Yamahime no Sanae, Yamahime no Tomoko... of those only the last one would be considered NTR by the "defenders" of this board, as it involved an engaged couple that broke up because some douchebag loser fucked the girl better and brought out her inner whore... The other two are mom/son... The first one the dude is attracted to his mother and eventually finds out what is happening to her, and tries to save her only for him to fail, give up and let her leave to work as soemone's "pet"... The 2nd one the MC just wants his mom to be a "mom", instead the douchebag asshole forces her to be his whore, and throw her kid on the street not before forcing him to witness them fucking and telling him she never loved him (her own child) as much as she loves the douchebag's dick, and for his brithday sending him a video of her being gang-banged by the douchebags entire gang of losers... All 3 of these Japan considers NTR, and not variations of the term, but HARD NTR.
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                     I actually can share most of what you said. Personally the only thing I like about NTR is the risk of failure, I hate having a story that forces me to win or lose.
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                     Being careful, preventing the rivals actions... I find that fun to play. I have to say that I dislike most, if not all the current games with NTR because... it's a story with obvious choices that even says "warning, choosing this will be NTR".
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                     For example... you talked about Big brother, I found it perfectly fine that he started having sex with the mother, but there are quite a few things that for me should have been improved a lot:
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                     -It didn't create an adecuate system related to Eric's influence. In this game Eric was just a content blocker, you would try to kick him as soon as possible and with reason. Even more funny was that Eric advances was based on if you continued certain mission chains rather than him having any initiative.
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                     The Influence-system was....a good start, but it's just the bones in my oppinion, so yes, it was frustrating and most don't liked the way it was working. And fleshing it out wasn't planned too, I think..
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                     The aunt-rape was....okay honestly, the whole game had a somehow "shitty" story...spying brother, but locked doors (which cameras inside the room) and he couldn't peep??? "Forcing" his sisters to have sex with him??? Hell, the setup was pretty good, and with descent storytelling capability, this would have been very nice to play, but the developer (I could say: like most russian porn developer ?) was heading the wrong way. (As I found in many other russian games too: they seem to "hate" woman)
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                     I would love to see Max starting to build some realtionship which lead to some forbidden but wanted desire, and then a realtionship with slightly more and more sexual content. And when the relationship goes from "brother" to "maybe lover" Eric comes to the house, and he is also starting to get the girls, with some good bonuses (he has money, he is an adult...fuck man: make him charming like hell) and if you don't start to have your eyes everywhere, he will start to fuck all the girls...
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                     Yeah, would have been a lot better, but: the game is dead for now, only fan-mods will give it some more life-span, and for me the mods just made an incest-harem-simulator with shitty characters (I can't like Max...he is an fucking asshole, and I can't sympathize/identify with him)...
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                     Maybe some porn-game-developer will understand, that we need more of the normal realtionship-seeking characters, not this super-alpha beta-cuck standard characters, and why do all this girls feel like dumb sexdolls, just waiting for the next guy to fuck them???
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                     There are 5197 games on this site. 300 are tagged as NTR. That's 5.7% of games. That's not "taking over," that's you looking at the latest updates and getting triggered because you see two games that have NTR. Even if it literally was 75% that day, some days just work out that way. I had days where a bunch of furry games had updates and I'm not into that, but I don't think furry games are "taking over."
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                        There are 5197 games on this site. 300 are tagged as NTR. That's 5.7% of games. That's not "taking over," that's you looking at the latest updates and getting triggered because you see two games that have NTR. Even if it literally was 75% that day, some days just work out that way. I had days where a bunch of furry games had updates and I'm not into that, but I don't think furry games are "taking over."
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                     Personally, I consider myself dom-sexual, so ntr is a hard pass for me. I get that other people like it, although I have no idea why. My problem is when a game doesn't have the tag (it happens more often than I'd like but not frequently enough that its an actual problem) or if it has the tag but the description makes it sound like its an optional thing (happened on at least 5 games I've downloaded).
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                     I think a lot of people that play games insert themselves into the protags position. I personally do this, it gets me more invested in the game. I dislike the idea of ANYONE touching the girls when I play these games. But that's my personal preference and I look for games that are like that. If I find a game that looks promising but has the ntr tag, I do find myself disappointed, but I move on to try to find a new game.
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                     In all honesty, everyone has their fetishes. I like domination and pretty much anything that goes with that (if its the mc doing the dominating at least). I also like genderbending, especially if I can do it. But not everyone likes that sort of thing. In fact, I may be in the minority with the amount of fetishes that I enjoy. My point is everyone likes different things and there's no reason to get bent out of shape over it. Then again, this is the internet we're talking about. Someone is going to be stupid/overly-emotional/dumb or what have you and get offended that a game has something they don't like in it.
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                        Personally, I consider myself dom-sexual, so ntr is a hard pass for me. I get that other people like it, although I have no idea why. My problem is when a game doesn't have the tag (it happens more often than I'd like but not frequently enough that its an actual problem) or if it has the tag but the description makes it sound like its an optional thing (happened on at least 5 games I've downloaded).
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                        I think a lot of people that play games insert themselves into the protags position. I personally do this, it gets me more invested in the game. I dislike the idea of ANYONE touching the girls when I play these games. But that's my personal preference and I look for games that are like that. If I find a game that looks promising but has the ntr tag, I do find myself disappointed, but I move on to try to find a new game.
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                        In all honesty, everyone has their fetishes. I like domination and pretty much anything that goes with that (if its the mc doing the dominating at least). I also like genderbending, especially if I can do it. But not everyone likes that sort of thing. In fact, I may be in the minority with the amount of fetishes that I enjoy. My point is everyone likes different things and there's no reason to get bent out of shape over it. Then again, this is the internet we're talking about. Someone is going to be stupid/overly-emotional/dumb or what have you and get offended that a game has something they don't like in it.
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                        Although, if there was a game with the mc being a switch (with more emphasis on the dom part) that gets dominated and genderbent but then their new 'master' uses them to get other slaves and makes them second in command? I think I'd love that type of scenario. I doubt it'll ever get made, but I can dream.
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                     On this site, if a guy fucks a girl in a game they want an NTR tag on it, even when the guy who is sleeping with the character is the husband of said character, that is not NTR.
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                     I like watching NTR if I can be the neotori (the one who does it) however some people like it, like sissyfication or female domination. Like other fetishes, it is a matter of taste.
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                        I personally think that people that hate NTR are 3 types of people, but there are some exceptions, as always.
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                        1 - The Harem guys: Those are the ones who are really immature and don't know how to deal with the realism of fact that if you don't fuck her right, or if you screw up, or even if you do everything right, your girl or man might cheat on you, and that's a fact some of them are not ready to deal with and scares them to the core.
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                        3 - And the guys who have such a lack of self-confidence that even if they know that it's a game he won't be able to stand it, he will play, try to play, or not even try, then he will post a review or make a post telling you how awful your game is, just because the idea of it gave him nightmares because he's afraid of anything that says that "he's not the only one" or "he' not THE man" or "he's not the best",  in most cases this also shows an extreme lack of self-love, that makes the idea of what NTR stands for so scary to them, even if it's just fantasy.
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                     yep it's just a fictional game, I agree with that statement since porn games consist of things that are hard to happen which is fantasy.
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                     I believe that those are categories of people that hate NTR, but not the only ones. There are those that generally dislike it because its not for them. I mean, I don't have trauma from being cheated on. I'm not immature enough to think that people are anything but people and majority if not all are not completely trustworthy. Although that could be stubbornness of a sort. And I know I'm not scared of it.
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                     I just find it distasteful. I mean, what about watching someone you're involved with fuck someone else in front of you is a turn-on? I just don't understand it. Then again, I don't run around talking down about people that like it. I might not understand it, but somebody likes it. I mean, I have fetishes that a large number don't particularly like.
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                        I believe that those are categories of people that hate NTR, but not the only ones. There are those that generally dislike it because its not for them. I mean, I don't have trauma from being cheated on. I'm not immature enough to think that people are anything but people and majority if not all are not completely trustworthy. Although that could be stubbornness of a sort. And I know I'm not scared of it.
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                        I just find it distasteful. I mean, what about watching someone you're involved with fuck someone else in front of you is a turn-on? I just don't understand it. Then again, I don't run around talking down about people that like it. I might not understand it, but somebody likes it. I mean, I have fetishes that a large number don't particularly like.
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                     Me too i find it distasteful at first but eventually if you try it a lot, it gets better, it's like alcohol and cigarette xd.
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                        I believe that those are categories of people that hate NTR, but not the only ones. There are those that generally dislike it because its not for them. I mean, I don't have trauma from being cheated on. I'm not immature enough to think that people are anything but people and majority if not all are not completely trustworthy. Although that could be stubbornness of a sort. And I know I'm not scared of it.
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                        I just find it distasteful. I mean, what about watching someone you're involved with fuck someone else in front of you is a turn-on? I just don't understand it. Then again, I don't run around talking down about people that like it. I might not understand it, but somebody likes it. I mean, I have fetishes that a large number don't particularly like.
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                     Not once did I think that I am actually dating these 3D girls. Many people think NTR is retarded and can't wrap their heads around it. I also cannot wrap my head around someone who treats fictional characters like they are real. They are vehicles for a story. More corruption = better porn to me, be it NTR or netori or female protagonist.
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                        I personally think that people that hate NTR are 3 types of people, but there are some exceptions, as always.
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                        1 - The Harem guys: Those are the ones who are really immature and don't know how to deal with the realism of fact that if you don't fuck her right, or if you screw up, or even if you do everything right, your girl or man might cheat on you, and that's a fact some of them are not ready to deal with and scares them to the core.
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                     that post combined with that signature shows the kind of person you are. you fall into the exact same category as number 1 just the opposite.
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                     heres the real reason and its really simple, its a fetish that focuses on negative thoughts of usually the mc or another party. guess what most people play games to feel good, and to most people they dont need to put down someone else to feel good. its not healthy
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                        Not once did I think that I am actually dating these 3D girls. Many people think NTR is retarded and can't wrap their heads around it. I also cannot wrap my head around someone who treats fictional characters like they are real. They are vehicles for a story. More corruption = better porn to me, be it NTR or netori or female protagonist.
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                        Because its plain stupid? You want to write a game about a guy watching his wife get ganbanged? Fine. Make it realistic. Make sure their reactions are realistic. The guy does not sit there like an idiot, but rather does something (either divorce or delivers an ultimatum to the woman) The woman can either chose to stay with the man she dates/married or divorces him and enjoys getting fucked by all and sundry.
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                     Your confusing NTR with Cuckoldry,
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                     NTR is designed to evoke jealousy in the reader, the protagonist doesn't need to know about it.
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                     What you described is basically beta cucking, those games are stupid and designed for people who enjoy being cucks. They are a niche of a genre.
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                     You are also applying what you would do in the situation. There is an ending in Living with Temptation 2 where your wife sleeps with the antagonist and you see it on SC and you can choose to record it and divorce her or keep watching and turn into a cuck, I chose the former though the latter was an achievement but having the choice turns it into reader preference.
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                     I have issues with NTR on this site and the labelling of it 2 of the biggest being the antagonist seems to always be a black man who is deemed as a white woman chasing horse cock and the other being that the woman is always stupid in some way. This is not every game, just the majority.
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                     I as many would not stand for it, but it is a game and well written stories with ntr can be good, some are just shockingly appalling but I do not have a hate of a genre, that is borderline psychotic that I have to shout everyone down who likes it.
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                     I dislike futa and trans but I just see that tag I stay away from it I don't shout at people about it.
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                     Just going to point out that people typically use games for escapism. Not knocking your stance on the subject, but saying phrases like 'its just a game' is kinda disregarding people who like to ignore real life for a few hours to enjoy playing through someone else's perspective.
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                        Apologies in advance if the topic has already been discussed, but on a quick search of NTR, I could only find games and a thread with recommendations.
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                        I was wondering why are people so hellbent against NTR? Each of us has their own preferences when it comes to games or life choices, but I doubt that playing a game with NTR content will turn anyone into a cuckold and he/she will start sharing their partner around.
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                     As a Yandere enjoyer basically the Anti NTR my perspective is that cheating is one of the worst things a romantic partner can do, and trying to take someone else's girl is one of the most fucked up things you can do as a man. as far as wanting to be cucked it is very strange i would not want to share a girl even with a cucked man who doesn't have sex with her and obviously i wouldn't want to be cucked myself, i find NTR to be the hardest fetish for me to understand even more confusing then scat and Guro and quite frankly "open relationships" becoming so popular is very concerning as a traditional romantic.
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                     Personally insulting someone in a serious context using their fetish is obviously wrong morally speaking and i tend to avoid it even if they are someone i dislike, but i am more likely to make fun of NTR and be offput by people who are into NTR because i find it disgusting and can't come to understand it.
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                     As far as game developers asking a Dev to remove NTR is stupid clearly they are into NTR if it is in the game so no point most likely people saying that are just trolling trying to piss off the people who like NTR.
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                     And for the games i am fine with a game having NTR if you have the choice to avoid it but i won't enjoy a game with no choice to avoid NTR and will generally consider it a "shit game"
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                        I was wondering why are people so hellbent against NTR? Each of us has their own preferences when it comes to games or life choices, but I doubt that playing a game with NTR content will turn anyone into a cuckold and he/she will start sharing their partner around.
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                     First, NTR haters (if I speak for more than myself) deal with more than ntr not turning them on.
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                     It figuratively makes their dick retract into themselves. Or it literally makes them physically and emotionally unwell. There are some folk elsewhere who list what its like to suffer from depression and anxiety. Seeing ntr in a game can lead to a ntr hater experiencing similar feelings (and let's not take away from actual sufferers of depression or anxiety).
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                     Personal example, I tried to empathize with ntr appreciators and tried the ntr scenes in one of the games I play. This lead to me feeling nauseous, loosing my appetite and strength for the day. My day was quite really ruined (pussy, sure I never said I was chuck norris or a mentally powerful fella), it was not pretty.
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                     I was no where close to turned on. I believe my crowd/ntr haters follow a story from the starting perspective, so we don't suddenly change MC perspectives to the rapist or cuckolding perspective instead of the cuck.
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                     This is my experience in the ntr I've seen so far. NTR is about the mc being powerless to stop any form of LI affection loss or actions that show the opposite of affection for the mc. Either the LIs no longer care about mc intervention, or the MC will not do anything but watch on with any pathetic attitude of "this can't be real", "I will make sure this does not happen again" while letting the cuckolding situation play out.
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                     That powerless watching a LI leave or be "hurt"/raped (yeah I know, do not confuse reality with fantasy/fiction) and make no move to stop it ain't fun in the slightest to the ntr hating crowd. Stopping it would make for a admittedly twisted "hero" moment and I still do not like this alternative, but it would still be preferable to the powerless option. I haven't seen an ntr scene where the MC had the chance to "save" a LI mid rape so I do not know how "sick" it would make me feel so I cannot give you a perspective on that other than, "yeah, still don't like it."
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                     Now, reasons why I might not want that in a game I play = reasons why I might ask a dev to remove something that makes my mind and body react like I consumed poison (sure it's the dev's choice at the end of the day but I'd still prefer to ask for tailoring to my fetishes). I play these games to unwind. Get rid of stress. I DO NOT want more stress.
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                     The game I tried was one of my favorite with its non-ntr content. It gave me some of greatest faps in all my adult games (tmi? maybe you'd want to stop here?). I'm hoping I can forget the ntr scenes so I can appreciate what made me so excited for that game again. However, I deal with minor ptsd when I try again even if I turn ntr off. (I am not trying to relate this to the very real ptsd soldiers/veterans experience) Just knowing it is there ruins my game as ntr unfortunately made a lot more sense for that story even if the writing wasn't good to begin with. (/The unrealistic story made more sense with ntr than without.) Knowing there's a more factual story with ntr included, does not lead to full destressing. So that's undesirable. Sure, lemme exaggerate, knowing this story has ntr in a much closer "alternate universe" than an actual alternate universe kinda sucks.
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                     I think I saw someone talking about male insecurities relating to ntr. True or not, that doesn't matter. Most of us use games to unwind, it is a fantasy and most of us are not looking for a fantasy that stresses us out (this applies to any group. NTR lovers will want to unwind with ntr, ntr haters want to unwind with ntr being on the other side of the universe). Thus a path that's not supposed to make sense could be more desirable than realism.
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                     Ex: a harem ending being preferable to a more realistic ending. Similarly, some might want incest in games that don't have it due to incest leading to them unwinding better.
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                     I think one of the people talking about insecurites was a chick. All technicalities considered, ntr hate is a man issue and her equivalent would be harem hate and that would be fair and understandable. Unfortunately her opinion is not quite valid concerning ntr even if she identifies as a man. If she identifies as a chick and is actually a dude? Good night clownworld I ain't google or wikipedia and just like she shouldn't care about my opinion, I really don't care about hers.
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                        trying to take someone else's girl is one of the most fucked up things you can do as a man. as far as wanting to be cucked it is very strange i would   not want to share a girl even with a cucked man who doesn't have sex with her
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                     Experienced similar.
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                     Stealing a girl without changing perspectives has had its excitements. But going ntri can change that.
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                        Because its plain stupid? You want to write a game about a guy watching his wife get ganbanged? Fine. Make it realistic. Make sure their reactions are realistic. The guy does not sit there like an idiot, but rather does something (either divorce or delivers an ultimatum to the woman) The woman can either chose to stay with the man she dates/married or divorces him and enjoys getting fucked by all and sundry.
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                     For me its pretty simple, 96% of all ntr games add at least one extra dick to the game...i hate dicks.
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                     Personally I hate the NTR genre, although I don't have nothing against it by itself, as long I can avoid it. Having bad endings which are completly avoidable is fine by me, but since I don't actually like the genre I don't want to be forced to play it, period.
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                     Most of the issues people have is people forcing that fetish into every single game. Fortunely it isn't as agressive as before, but at some point it was pretty obnoxious.
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                        So basically your argument is that the
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                         writing
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                        of these games, which are actually
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                         Netorase
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                        are bad, not necessarily the genre itself, because regarding that I agree that many of them lack a proper story or build-up. Because from where I'm standing an NTR-game with a proper story seems more realistic to me than the majority of the games on this website where some
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                         Average looking guy, with no talents, no money, no fame and sometimes a small dick gets 5+ extremely hot women all attracted to him at the same time. Not saying I don't play these games and enjoy them myself, but I do often find myself laughing at how ridiculous some of these games turn out.
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                        I would say you take games like these
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                        too seriously, I have
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                         never experienced
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                        any of these feelings like you described even when a game had scat/futa in them which I don't really appreciate. I just laugh it off, continue to play if this is not the main fetishes in the game or delete it if that's the entire concept of the game.  If I know beforehand that these are unavoidable and main genres I wouldn't even download a game like this.
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                         My main train of thought is:
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                        "Is this game fapworthy(or amusing) yes/no"
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                         Yes
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                        = Fap... (or laugh)
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                         No
                        </b>
                        = Delete and find another game.
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                        Just wondering have you ever talked about these feelings with someone, not necessarily about these kinds of games but considering how deep your reply goes, it almost seems to me like it's something deeply rooted, not trying to offend. I mean I have been cheated on at least twice, which was a painful experience finding out but I never experienced any discomfort from playing games with NTR or any other games for that matter.
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                        If you know
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                        a game has NTR, judging from either the
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                         Tags
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                        on top or the
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                         Genres/Developer notes
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                        stating that it has or will have NTR in the future, why do you put yourself through all these feelings if you don't like it?
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                        I've seen many people that dislike NTR,
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                        in these game threads about the fact the game has NTR, but these people don't take a moment to realize that those that DO enjoy NTR find it extremely annoying that there's people
                        <b>
                         constantly
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                        pissing on their preferred fetishes and trying to
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                         badger
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                        the developer into removing it altogether. It is that the moderators often purge these discussions, otherwise I would have asked you to
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                         objectively
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                        go through some NTR-games forum discussions and look at the hate this genre gets,
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                         now imagine
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                        if there were people constantly doing that to the fetishes you like.
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                         If you take a look at the amount of NTR games on this site:
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                        From a total of
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                        games on this website only
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                         817
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                        or
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                         6.8%
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                        contain NTR, now take in mind that there's games not properly categorized and games that are actually
                        <b>
                         NETORASE
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                        , where the guy
                        <b>
                         willfully
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                        shares his wife are included under this tag as well, so there's far fewer ACTUAL NTR games than it may seem. Some games are categorized to contain NTR, but the scenes only happen if you
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                         reject a girl multiple times
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                        or something like the
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                        would you feel like this is as bad as actual games that actually contain pure NTR?
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                        Personally I think the majority of people that dislike games with NTR is because they
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                        , whereas from my perspective I play it as an
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                        I simply don't see myself as the MC. Quite often I find it funny just to see MC's world burn, just like how I would play GTA or Rollercoaster Tycoon, just doing everything wrong or putting the MC through all sorts of bullshit is funny to me.
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                     So as you probably have or should've realized by now. Quite a lot of us do that. Immerse ourselves for a few hours of escapism.
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                     We can't or we have no desires to "watch a movie" here or else we'd be on Netflix instead. That appears to be what you and the others who claim to enjoy in-game rather than RL ntr do here, go through these like they're movies instead of escape for while. Thus we will probably not see eye-to-eye because we will use very different methods here.
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                     I already know most of our group will not compromise, some of your group is of the mindset that our group are either pathetic male pussies stuck in traditionalism, dumb-fucks, or whatever it is you think. but yeah.
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                        But disregarding that if I have to sum your post up it's you playing the victim and the people that like NTR or have different opinions are the boogeymen in your life. I'd say grow up and stop acting like a victim, as acting like one only serves to make people form negative opinions about you.
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                     I'd say I never really gave a shit about your opinion. I take occasions to interact with those who have views completely opposed to mine with a grain of salt as most of them prove my initial impressions to be right. I don't see your side's interest in attempting to understand the whys of a group opposed to you. Not that I'm interested either. The OP did show interest. Talking just about you, you're an all mature being who couldn't believe this infantile behavior is real.
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                     That may be because NTR haters go onto a games thread and ask the same questions "Is NTR avoidable" and then give 1 star reviews when it is not. This is one example of the immaturity of these people. I do not need to read a thread of 50% arguing how a game is trash because they believe NTR is in it even when it isn't and another shouting at those who are complaining about NTR. On a well known hentai streaming site, you get guys in the 0 hour posting murder ntr lovers, btr lovers are faggots and such the like. That is not the behaviour of a stable adult.
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                        That may be because NTR haters go onto a games thread and ask the same questions "Is NTR avoidable" and then give 1 star reviews when it is not. This is one example of the immaturity of these people. I do not need to read a thread of 50% arguing how a game is trash because they believe NTR is in it even when it isn't and another shouting at those who are complaining about NTR. On a well known hentai streaming site, you get guys in the 0 hour posting murder ntr lovers, btr lovers are faggots and such the like. That is not the behaviour of a stable adult.
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                        I never rated any game at all and never read revies since they are bound to be biased...just saying.
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                        Weird how most threads I've seen are more along the line "Is NTR avoidable? No? Kthxbye" and I've mostly seen the fetishists being all arrogant and aggressive.
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                     Maybe but as I am neither for or against the fetish, I don't look through rose tinted spectacles. I have seen several arguments and also seen several thread bans. It doesn't help that staff are very ban happy to people in the other camp and that they come from a pool of people who should never be mods. I have seen arguments over it. I have seen the childishness, I also get annoyed when people ask for a bug fix and don't use the search bar, because they are too lazy.
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                     That depends on the setting...if you just can avoid only the sexscenes, but nothing that leads to the point of this sexscenes to trigger (flirting, groping, maipulation, blackmail, sneaking in a room with chooseable locked or unlocked door, other guys stalking or peeping on the girls...) its still bothering most people who are not into it because jealousy is not restricted to sex.
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                     Personally i am already pissed if i need to see guys in a game, i needed a long time to be even able to play a male protagonists, more is just too much for me, be it the best wingman dude or some eric dont makes much difference for me, it just gets more annoying if that guy not only bothers me but also my girls
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                     And there are devs that dont understand avoidable and skipable...you "avoid" it and the questlog is filled with other guys, every second dialoge talks about what a good fuck X was, and so on...thats just pointless.
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                     And many devs/mods dont post such notes in the OP until the ntr flame gets out of hand and annoys the hell out of the cleaning mod, they just put an ntr tag there, sometimes after a year of development and wonder why people ask about it.
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                     Sure, there are many idiots who never found the search or just ignore anything besides the tags and the banner in every single topic, but thats the global unwritten forum rule, idiots are welcome too...at least for some time...^^
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