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                     I started to plan a game over the past couple of weeks, tentatively named
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                     For historical purposes, here is the first post where I mentioned my plans for this game in the Teaching Feelings thread:
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                        Good luck and Nice to see someone else using the godot engine.
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                        I would suggest getting starting on the small and building up get the easy wins under your belt. (Visual novel short intro.)
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                     Ya, Thanks! Once I've had a chance to go through some 3.0 tutorials I plan to start by making isolated mechanics prototypes for each of the major components I need for the game, then I'll worry about putting them together into a proper demo afterwards. Right now I'm mostly focusing on the design doc that I've been compiling in a Zim notebook and messing around with some preliminary model sculpts in Blender.
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                         Her mother got pregnant with her while she was still in high school. It probably happened during any of a number of drinking parties where she'd regularly get drunk off her ass and sleep with random guys. She was only 17 when she gave birth to her daughter. Still being practically a child herself, she had no idea how to raise a kid. Worse yet she had to do it on her own, not knowing who the father was among her many partners, and without the support of her own family who disowned her.
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                         Our poor girl spent most of her life in near constant neglect and exposed to her mother's debauchery. As an infant her mother kept her in a Pack 'n Play just feet from where she'd bed her regular customers. The girl was malnourished and unkempt throughout most of her childhood. Between her looks and her mother's reputation, she was quickly ostracized by the other children around her who were warned to stay clear of her by their parents. Because of all of this she was a lonely child who was forced to mature well beyond her age and fend for herself all too often.
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                         When her mother finally lost her life to her vices it came as no surprise to the girl, who was now well into her late teens. When she found her mother dead in their apartment, she went around grabbing anything of value and headed straight for the near-by pawn shop to get what little she could for it all. It wasn't nearly enough though and before long she was left with nothing.
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                         Being so quiet, awkward and introverted from her years alone, she found it hard to find anyone willing to give her a chance at a job. Seeing no other option for herself, she took to living on the streets. Her life quickly devolved into dumpster diving for food, sleeping in any dry place she could find and stealing any warm looking clothes she could get her hands on to fend off the unrelenting biting cold of night.
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                         At first she was happy to have a place to call her own, but any good mood she might have gained was quickly dampened by the realities of living under a bridge. It was hard to get to sleep until late into the night due to the noise of the vehicles passing overhead. There was also the ever present stink of exhaust fumes and moldering cardboard. Plus the constant fear of run-ins with wild animals, strangers and police.
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                         She lived this stress-filled and lonesome existence for months before someone finally discovered her hiding spot. Late one evening a local man was out for a walk in the park, making his way along its back end for a change of pace from his normal route, when he heard the sound of sobbing coming from beyond the bushes near the bridge. When he went to investigate he was shocked to find a young women huddled up in a makeshift shelter with fresh tears still flowing from her now petrified eyes that were locked on him from the moment she realized all too late that she had been found.
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                             It's later revealed that she was crying because that day was her 18th birthday and she knew she was truly alone in the world and no one cared whether she was alive or dead. If she hadn't been found and taken in that night by the player, she probably would've committed suicide soon after and I may even add that as a bad ending for those who choose to ignore her plight right at the start of the game.
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                     Very interesting premise though I haven't seen anything that would prevent this from being on patreon, if you want to go that route, or if this is just a labor of love for you then that is fine as well. It sounds like it would be highly interesting to play, so while I'm not very good at programming I can help with the writing, like checking the grammar and spelling, and I have dabbled in gimp but I can only do cleaning up line art, flat colors, and highlights and shadows.  Anyways Good luck with this project and I hope it comes to fruition so everyone, myself included can experience this story of yours.
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                     Thanks. I'll look into getting support eventually. But at this early stage, before I even have a demo, it would feel wrong asking for money. I want to have something tangible to share first. Basically I want to get the two main character base models done (retopo'd, textured and rigged/weighted), a few important backgrounds designed, as well as all the base mechanics prototyped and into a first demo with a UI and a good amount of one route's text worked out first. Probably at least one animated event to show off how the sex scene controls will work as well.
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                     Since I've been using Twine to plan out the branching narrative of my game's opening story, I've decided to release that as something of a teaser, for those who don't mind getting a chance to check out the story early in a text only format. It covers your meeting with the homeless girl and your interactions that can lead to one of the three main routes that will be in the full game. In addition to those 3 good endings, there are 3 bad endings. Be warned, one of those bad endings involves necrophilia, it can be easily avoided, but just figured it was worth noting, as I know that won't be a lot of folk's cup of tea.
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                        Looks really good so far, and I found a slight grammar error. As seen here.
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                        "And finally, these stairs here lead down to the basement, our finally stop, come on down"
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                        Shouldn't it be final stop?
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                        Heh, I almost feel bad that all the really interesting scenes are actually on the bad side of that choice for now. We do get to see the two of them forge their connection when you chose to help her, but most of the good action stuff on that side won't come until after you are well on your way into the routes that are beyond the scope of the opening story covered by the demo. Since all the bad endings for the game happen early on as a consequence of not helping her properly, I was able to fully flesh out those figurative and literal dead ends.
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                     Ya, I have pretty much no interests in bending to PC nonsense, the story will go where it wants to go. The only reason I'd really consider cutting out the necrophilia scene is because it means having to do a whole other skin for her as well as a bunch of animation variants that would only be of use for that scene. So it probably won't make it in early on, just for those practical reasons. Also, if I do end up having to go with Patreon, it would be best to save that scene for later anyhow, and hide it behind a patch, since that would likely be the only scene they could take offense with based on their current rules.
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                     Even though I say I want to finish the core game with a 1.0 release by the end of the year, that isn't to say I have any plans of stopping at that point. I just don't like having games with a ton of dead ends and cliff hangers that linger for years while the dev(s) drag their feet with the game, like Summertime Saga that's still likely ages away from bringing any of the core game stories to their conclusion.
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                     It's been a while since I've posted any news, so I thought I'd summarize some of the work I've been doing this past month. This is a long one, so I broke it up into sections and hid them behind spoilers.
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                         First off, I decided against sharing any images just yet. Not many people, outside of other 3D artists, can usually appreciate WIP (work in progress) screenshots without something finished to compare them to. Since first impressions are everything I'm holding off on sharing art until at least some models have gotten materials and textures. At which point I will probably share a break down including some WIP shots showing the major stages a piece has gone through to illustrate my workflow for those who are interested in such things.
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                         This month has largely in part been dedicated to straight up modeling time and a bit of further work on the design docs. I've thus far avoided getting into any actual work on the programming side of things beyond just quick little mechanics demos while refamiliarizing myself with Godot. This is partly because of the news that Armory3D has now reached its Patreon goals and started releasing its builds for free to everyone, so now that that is available without the hassle of having to build it myself, I'm a bit tempted to use that instead, if only because of its tighter integration with Blender.
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                         The biggest time drain goes to asset development. According to my Steam stats for Blender, I've been averaging somewhere around 25-40 hours a week, usually in the mid-30s. Out of the two main scenes I want ready for the first release, the park/bridge and player home, I'd say I am about 60% done with the base models for the park and maybe 40% for the home (there are just so many little detail things to be made, lol).
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                         I've thus far avoided getting started with materials and textures as I'm still a bit conflicted on where I want to land on the stylized/realism spectrum with the game's art style. The more realistic I go, the more time it takes to create assets. If I go for a very realistic look it will add a ton more time, easily several hundred more hours just to reach a 1.0 release, perhaps a thousand or more by the time the game is truly finished. I'm really not sure it's worth it, not least because I'm actually a pretty big fan of stylized artwork. I'm a bit tempted to go for a fairly clean and simple style with a lot of fairly flat bright colors and smooth gradients and somewhat painterly details matched with fairly realistic material and lighting settings. I think that will give a very appealing look and significantly cut down on asset creation time.
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                         I've come to the point where I have to make a decision, since I started to make my first tree and shrub models yesterday and I've got to decide if I'm going to go for more of an impressionistic hand painted look with the foliage textures or go crazy with modeling and texturing leaves and fine branches in order to bake out high quality material maps instead. I think the stylized approach will give a unique feel and save a ton of time and effort, so that is where I'm leaning at the moment, and I plan to paint a few textures in the coming days to test out.
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                         I've mostly been focusing on the girl for now, I'll get to the MC after her. I started with a quick box model to block in proportions, then I did a rough sculpt on that model using Blender's dyntopo, which dynamically adds and removes topology as you work. It is very handy as a starting point when fleshing out a model. Once I was satisfied with the basic sculpt shape I started to retopologize the model, this is where you create a new low polygon model directly over the high poly sculpt mesh, with a combination of the shrink wrap modifier and snapping vertices to the faces of the underlying model while extruding out faces as you go.
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                         So far I've retopo'd the head and torso as well as the legs down to the knees. But I've mostly been using topology that is more typical of regular game model, and I'm doubting how well it will perform when it comes to the more extreme animation poses necessary for sex scenes. So I started to rethink the topology and started to refresh on some anatomy studies and started to amass a small collection of reference videos (basically porn featuring fit bendy females doing various contortionist, acrobatic, and yoga poses) so I could carefully study all the places I need to account for folds and muscle definition to get a more accurate topology that won't need hundreds of tedious and fiddly little shape key corrections for everything to look right. So a lot of the retopo work done so far may get thrown out and redone, we'll see though.
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                         I've also done a sculpt of her first hair style, which is a fairly short and messy kinda punk style. My thinking on this is that someone who is homeless generally can't afford the luxury of well groomed long hair that takes a lot of effort and expense to maintain. So I'm thinking she'd be the sort to cut her own hair, keeping it short and not worrying if its a bit messy. Going along with the above statements on style, I've been putting off replacing the hair with a finished model yet. I've been tossing around the decision of going with either textured hair cards or a more solid modeling approach. Since I'm leaning towards a more stylized approach, the latter may go best.
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                         While solid hair would be along these lines:
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                         Basically the hair would be broken up into individually modeled clumps. Both are pretty time consuming, so there is no clear winner here, it just comes down to which would fit the overall style better.
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                         I've also started to flesh out the game environment. I'm creating a kinda circular terrain mesh with a radius of about 5 km. Most of that will be ocean and distant hills/mountains. The city itself mostly falls within a smaller circle near the center with a roughly 1 km radius. Eventually I want to have a 3D map you'll be able navigate around somewhat Skyrim style to chose locations to travel to and even though the bulk of the city won't be able to be visited, I still like the idea of having a coherent city plan that accounts for all of the important builds a city needs to function. Most of the buildings will be just simple low poly filler models meant to provide silhouettes for the background and common landmarks to help tie the various locations together.
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                         I've already created a rough sculpt of the terrain, mapped out most of the important streets, and laid down markers in the form of text labels where various buildings should be located, both those that the player can visit and those that are just there for world building purposes. I started to block in some templates for creating the filler buildings and creating parts I can assemble the streets/sidewalks from. This isn't a high priority, so I just basically do a bit here and there in short bursts when the mood strikes and spend most of my time on the two main locations for the first release and the character models.
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                         The park is planned to be located along a creek that runs through the center of town along the lowest part of the valley. Due to the risk of flooding, the city decided to leave that area undeveloped, there is an area about 100 m across and 300 m long that is split in half by the bridge where we find the homeless girl at the start. The area north of the bridge is a wooded area and the area to the south is where the city park is located.
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                         The park has fairly thick brick walls along all but its north end in order to add a few more feet of flood protection. The entrances are both located near the southwest corner, one on the south side leading to the parking lot and one on the west side that just faces a street. There's a pond in the southeast corner of the park that the creek feeds into, south of the park the creek is contained within high stone walls for a block of two until it finally dumps into the ocean between the docks and the beach.
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                         Near the entrances of the park will be a fountain with benches and trees around it. between there and the pond is a standalone public restroom. To the north of the fountain will be a playground and a bit northeast of that is a picnic pavilion looking out over the pond. I'm also thinking of adding a small dock to the pond with a few peddle boats. The east side of the park that the pond and part of the creek butts up against will have a steep embankment covered in large boulders leading up to where the park wall is located.
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                         So far I have the bridge, pavilion, public restroom, and several pieces of playground equipment modeled. As mentioned above in the style section, I've also got started on some of the flora as well. I've got the trunk and main branches of a couple of tree variations made and getting ready to create the texture cards that will get the foliage textures made up of small branches and leaves to add to the trees and to bunch together into bushes/shrubs.
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                         I still need to make the fountain, benches, a few more pieces of playground equipment and the bits that will fill out the restroom (toilets, urinal, sinks, towel dispensers, garbage cans and a drinking fountain on the outside as well as some signage.) Aside from those I'll also have to make the boulders and a finished version of the terrain plus the dock and peddle boats if I decide to add those.
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                         This hasn't changed much in a few weeks, since I've been focusing on the park and the female character model. But I've added models for all the doors and windows the house needed. The kitchen has all of its cabinets and sink. I have cube stand-ins for the fridge, stove and microwave that still need to be replaced with proper models. I've also added a table to the kitchen and the pull down ladder leading into the attic.
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                         I've also made beds for the master bedroom and guest room that becomes the girl's room. I've also started on the claw foot tub, toilet, sink and medicine cabinet in the bathroom. I've also started on a few other bits of furniture here and there. Outside of the house I created a patio in the back and a small porch and stairs at the front door leading to the sidewalk.
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                         Mainly I want to get the girl done and get started on some texture painting work. I'd also like to see the park get done and some more furniture made for the player home. I'm hoping I will finally have some art to share by the time I do the next update. It's always frustrating putting so much time and effort into art that I can't share, so its about time that's changed. If time permits I'll also continue working on low poly models for the city map.
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                     - The problem with Twine is that you can't (easily) do standalone desktop builds. By default it exports HTML files and I generally don't like using browsers for gaming outside of very particular use cases such as demos and game jam submissions. I'm also not a fan of JavaScript and I'd probably have to write a fair bit in it if I went with Twine. Don't get me wrong though, I really enjoy Twine a lot and I'm actually using it for the initial mapping out of the scenes of the text game; I've always loved it's flow chart node based story editor.
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                     Overall I'm thinking Ren'Py will be a pretty good fit for it. The system I described above should be fairly trivial to implement with a few days of coding and testing, even if I end up having to do some of it with PyGame. I started using Python over 16 years ago, so I'm not too worried about running into anything I couldn't handle on that front.
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                     I played through it once, got Good Ending 3.
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                     It's a good concept and good writing!
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                     - I'd say homeless people, especially a girl in her situation, would be a LOT more guarded. Both due to personality / upbringing as well as due to the circumstances.
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                     - Personally if I were a homeless young woman I'd avoid some stranger's house / car / whatever like the plague, regardless of any possible rewards.
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                     - The girl does not strike me as suicidally depressed
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                     - There is also a risk for the MC. He doesn't know anything about the girl. Can she be trusted not to (for instance) steal some valuables and disappear during the night? Yet the MC never even considers this. He could for instance have locked her room from outside. Or have her sleep in the garden shed. This may seem a bit harsh, but it's what I would do IRL.
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                     Compare your story to Our Fate (see link in my sig), which has basically the same premise, although there the girl is your daughter (or the daughter of your ex-girlfriend), so you have a vested interest in her. Our Fate more or less avoids the comments above and therefore feels more realistic. Also in Our Fate, the girl is actually homeless for only one or two days.
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                     With regards to how the life of a homeless person can be, with a lot of practical tips, do's and don'ts, take a look here:
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                     - Thanks for the feedback. I don't know if you mind certain aspects of the story being spoiled or not, so I will hide my response and let you decide.
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                         If you don't take her in or help her in some way, she kills herself a few hours after your encounter; she was planning to all along. This is why she isn't too concerned about your intentions. If it turns out you want to help her, it's a win for her. If it turns out you want to take advantage of her, she still has her plans to kill herself to turn to and then it will get blamed on you as her last bit of revenge for your duplicity. So in her mind she has nothing to lose in following you home. Also due to a lifetime of neglect, it's a rather intriguing and foreign concept to her that anyone would suddenly care about her situation, for good or bad, and she's curious to find out why.
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                         I'd also say her suicidal intentions aren't related to depression exactly and more down to her just giving up. Here she is, on her 18th birthday, living alone under a bridge with no friends, no family, no prospects for a future. She just doesn't see any reason to go on and that realization is what's brought on her crying spell - just knowing that she's truly alone in the world and not a single person will notice or mourn her passing brought out a flood of repressed emotions.
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                     EDIT: That article was pretty interesting and I think I actually came across that a while back. I actually know a few former homeless people and spent a few years in my late teens not far off from being one myself. The only reason I wasn't was that I had enough friends willing to put up with me crashing on their couches or bands willing to take me out with them on their tours to avoid straight up living on the streets. During that time I got by on a combination of donating plasma twice a week, taking on the occasional day labor jobs that pay in cash the same day, helping out at local indie clubs, and a fair bit of dumpster diving.
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                     What Downhill said, "Teaching Feelings" is one of my most favorite games/VNs out there. if you manage to make "take in a stary" work, you'd be remembered for years to come, I just gotta ask(still didn't search around yet) is there any sample of the art in the game? I'm not famalir with the GoDot engine, hence the reason why I'm asking you for a sample of the art.
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                     - On one hand I wanted things to go pretty smoothly because what you see so far is just a quick intro to set the stage for the meat and potatoes of the game, which is your daily interactions with her if you decided to take her in. There's definitely a lot more I could have done with the intro to spice things up or add to the drama, but that really wasn't what I was going for. I mostly just wanted them to start developing a chemistry right from the start so I could focus things on revealing a tiny bit of their backgrounds and making the decision regarding which of the 3 main routes you want to get into with her.
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                     Once I've got you onto a path and they start dealing with the realities of living together, then I could start putting more effort into making things more dynamic with their relationship. Bring in some potential temporary strife that you'll have to work through to smooth things out from time to time. The intro is largely in part a first draft still though. I may tweak and alter things a bit when the time comes to start working it into the actual game, so I'll keep your feedback in mind when the time comes.
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                     update, none of the assets have reached a finished state just yet. There are a fair few that are pretty much done on the initial modeling phase, but they still need to be UV unwrapped and given a material and textures. So they are all still in that generic gray no material state that isn't very appealing to really anyone besides other 3D artists, except as part of a sequence of images showing the progression of a model from start to finish. As such I don't really want to publicly share screenshots of unfinished models at this point. I'd rather wait and wow people with compelling finished work.
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                     Also, I'd imagine you are most interested in the girl, but because I keep losing so much of my progress while working on her, she is basically on hold for now until I can replace my system. Which is why this project is taking a bit of a backseat atm. I'm still working on props and such for the maps, but at this point I've lost around 8 hours worth of work on the female model from my system rebooting before Blender can finish saving her file. If it wasn't for that I was going to start getting some of the models done with textures and such as I mentioned in that update, but now I'm in full on design doc development mode for my short term text-based game project that I'm hoping will make enough to replace my system by the end of the year so I can get back to this game full time.
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                     One good thing that's come of all of this is that I never put much effort into texture work previously, but I'll be doing several digital background paintings for the text game. When I was a kid I used to draw like crazy and in my teens and early 20s I was into graffiti and tattoo design for several years there, but once I got a computer and got into 3D modeling I kinda gave up on 2D for the most part. I'd still sketch from time to time, but mostly just to brainstorm ideas and create refs for my 3D modeling. So spending a few months doing a bunch of digital paintings ought to get me back up to speed on my 2D skills and lead to far better texture painting results when I start focusing on those for this project.
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                            - On one hand I wanted things to go pretty smoothly because what you see so far is just a quick intro to set the stage for the meat and potatoes of the game, which is your daily interactions with her if you decided to take her in. There's definitely a lot more I could have done with the intro to spice things up or add to the drama, but that really wasn't what I was going for. I mostly just wanted them to start developing a chemistry right from the start so I could focus things on revealing a tiny bit of their backgrounds and making the decision regarding which of the 3 main routes you want to get into with her.
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                            Once I've got you onto a path and they start dealing with the realities of living together, then I could start putting more effort into making things more dynamic with their relationship. Bring in some potential temporary strife that you'll have to work through to smooth things out from time to time. The intro is largely in part a first draft still though. I may tweak and alter things a bit when the time comes to start working it into the actual game, so I'll keep your feedback in mind when the time comes.
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                            - As I mentioned in the
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                            update, none of the assets have reached a finished state just yet. There are a fair few that are pretty much done on the initial modeling phase, but they still need to be UV unwrapped and given a material and textures. So they are all still in that generic gray no material state that isn't very appealing to really anyone besides other 3D artists, except as part of a sequence of images showing the progression of a model from start to finish. As such I don't really want to publicly share screenshots of unfinished models at this point. I'd rather wait and wow people with compelling finished work.
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                            Also, I'd imagine you are most interested in the girl, but because I keep losing so much of my progress while working on her, she is basically on hold for now until I can replace my system. Which is why this project is taking a bit of a backseat atm. I'm still working on props and such for the maps, but at this point I've lost around 8 hours worth of work on the female model from my system rebooting before Blender can finish saving her file. If it wasn't for that I was going to start getting some of the models done with textures and such as I mentioned in that update, but now I'm in full on design doc development mode for my short term text-based game project that I'm hoping will make enough to replace my system by the end of the year so I can get back to this game full time.
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                            One good thing that's come of all of this is that I never put much effort into texture work previously, but I'll be doing several digital background paintings for the text game. When I was a kid I used to draw like crazy and in my teens and early 20s I was into graffiti and tattoo design for several years there, but once I got a computer and got into 3D modeling I kinda gave up on 2D for the most part. I'd still sketch from time to time, but mostly just to brainstorm ideas and create refs for my 3D modeling. So spending a few months doing a bunch of digital paintings ought to get me back up to speed on my 2D skills and lead to far better texture painting results when I start focusing on those for this project.
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                     Thanks for the reply mate, and yeah, the girl's looks/persona will play an important role in the likeness and over all good rating of the game.
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                     It's been a while since I've posted any news here, so figure with the year quickly drawing to a close now is as good a time as any.
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                     That northbridge heatsink I picked up couldn't be mounted to the motherboard I was using at the time, but it was a good fit for one of my older boards, so I gave it a try on that and it did improve things a lot, but didn't get rid of all of my rebooting issues, it just made them a bit less frequent. I think my mobos are just too old and budget grade to stand up to the kinds of work I need them to do. It seems higher end AM3/AM3+ boards are getting to be in ever shorter supply, it's almost impossible to find them new and the used market wants more than I think they are worth. So now I'm looking at just gutting out my system and replacing the mobo/CPU/RAM as soon as I can and just sticking with my old 750ti for the time being until I can afford to replace that as well. But even just getting those 3 parts, is going to probably run me around $300 or so, and it may be a while before I can pull those funds together.
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                     With the recent release of the first Blender 2.8 beta. I started to give that a more serious try and it turns out my computer doesn't like PBR materials in Eevee any more than it does in Cycles. So that is a total bust. I'm going to have to stick with 2.79 and Blender Internal until I can rebuild my system. I really don't want to compromise the style I have in mind for Taking in a Stray, so that will have to continue to remain on hold for now until I have a system where I can work on the art the way I want it to be.
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                     I've also run into snags with Krita. If I try to paint on a 1080p sized canvas, quick brush strokes can also often crash my system. This is probably down to Krita using hardware acceleration, but when I turn those features off, the response time of the strokes gets too slow to be tolerable at that size. So that has thrown a monkey wrench into my plans for my text based game as well. I either have to paint much smaller backgrounds or just push forward with it without art. I don't want to do it without the painted backgrounds, so that leaves me with smaller images or putting that on hold as well. Part of me is considering the possibility of doing the background paintings rather small, like 360x640, since those dimensions can be doubled to get 720p and tripled to get 1080p, so it would scale up rather nicely. But it would probably look pretty bad on anything larger than those, and still even not that great on them either. This is pushing me more towards the direction of putting that on hold as well.
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                     So, that has led me to experimenting with different ideas to see if I could find some game ideas I can actually pull off with my current garbage system. So far two have come to mind that I'd like to pursue. One is a pretty simple picture puzzle game. You'd have a grid of square tiles that get jumbled and rotated around and you have to put them back into their proper order/orientation to win. You'd click on two tiles to swap their positions and the other mouse button would be used to rotate a tile. I plan to allow the player to import their own images, set the grid dimensions and even allow for cropping of the image to the bit they want in the puzzle. I may also work out an import module for converting animated gifs and apngs to sprite sheets so you can use looping animated images for the puzzles as well. There will also be a fair bit of animated bits to how the tiles move around and different options for customizing the background and such.
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                     So that's basically where I'm at now. I've been messing around in Godot a fair bit recently working out the various mechanics for that puzzle game and when I'm in the mood to work on art, I've been starting to design that town for the other game. I already basically have the whole layout of the town planned and got some rough starter models going in Blender for it, I might be able to get the exterior models all done for it within a few weeks, but it will take a fair bit more time to get the texture work done for them and I'd still have to do the various interior scenes, and those character sprites. It will probably be at least a few months before I have something worth putting out for that game. If I'm lucky and things go pretty smoothly with the puzzle game, I should have a working prototype of that (without the animated sprite support at first) within a few weeks.
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                     After some thought, I feel I want to focus mainly on my first passion, which is the game this thread was started for - Taking in a Stray. But I don't want to abandon any of the other projects either. The picture puzzle game will be the easiest and fastest to finish by far. So I will probably make that a priority as soon as I get this system back on its feet. But my creative desires pull me in a lot of different directions. So when I'm not working on that puzzle game, my 3D work will focus here on my main project, TiaS. Though when I'm in more of a painterly mood, I will work on the background matte paintings for my text adventure game, The Ever-Setting Sun.
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                     Got my new parts in on Friday and I've finally got a properly working system again. Other than the RAM, it is only a minor upgrade spec wise (went from a 3.4Ghz quad-core to a 3.5Ghz quad core CPU), but the AM4 boards seem to have a fair bit higher throughput than my old AM3 stuff. RAM wise though it is a nice upgrade, even if I am still using kind of lower end offerings for this gen of hardware, but 16 GB of 2400 DDR4 is a big step up from 8 GB of 1600 DDR3.
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                     The important part is that I can work on stuff without reboots now. A lot of stuff happens a lot quicker too, like building software, packing/unpacking archives, etc all are 3-4 times faster for me now. I'm probably going to lose a fair bit of time catching up on a lot of gaming I haven't been able to do over the past year or two, heh. But I make it a point to spend at least a few hours a day working on my projects. Got another of the core mechanics for that puzzle game worked out today, the animated tile swapping. Previously I've worked out how to import images and slice them up for the tiles, now that I can move them around the most important bits are all out of the way. Now I just need to tie them together with some GUI bits and do a ton of little things, like the puzzle editor that will let you choose the tile counts and what area of the imported image you want to use for the puzzle and a lot of the customizable cosmetic options and such.
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                     The big issue now though is just getting back into the right mindset to focus on TiaS after this long break and getting comfortable with the changes in Blender 2.8. I've got to pick up the pieces and start figuring out a proper priority list for all the work I need to do for that. Somewhat unfortunately, during the last few days of my waiting for the parts to arrive, I found myself going through some more Godot tutorial series to pass the time and ended up putting together a good chunk of a basic match-3 puzzle game, so now I've got yet another project on the stack as well. &gt;.&lt;
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                     I had a fun idea for it though, basically the different types of gems for that game correspond to different sexual targets (vaginal, anal, oral, etc). When you make a match it adds points towards that type of interaction, So as you gain points you unlock controls for engaging in those various sex acts with the character taking up the other half of the screen opposite of the puzzle and you have to unlock enough to reach orgasm in at least one of them before you run out of puzzle moves or you will leave your partner dissatisfied and lose the game, heh. Some times the gems will also have toys in them, when you make a match with those you'll unlock new sex toy options to utilize as well.
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                     It isn't a game I plan on investing much time in right now, just a fun little side project to mess around with from time to time, much like the low poly town exploration game. And in fact it could be a good warm up project for that, since I haven't done any 2D character animation before. So something like the match-3 game could be a good place to experiment and get some practice in with that side of things, which will prepare me for doing the animations for the low poly game as well, since I still plan to use 2D sprites for the characters in that one.
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                     I'll probably be able to get the puzzle side of that game done fairly quickly, since it is about half way there already. But the animation work is a huge bottleneck, so I doubt that game will be in any sort of suitable release state for a long time to come, especially since it will just be a side project and lucky if it sees a few hours of development a week until some of my main projects get done.
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                     If all goes well, and I don't lose too much time to gaming, I hope to finally have some art to share by around mid-to-late January. I already know for sure that I want to get the base model for the homeless girl out of the way first in terms of TiaS progress. I'd also like to get a good chunk of the material/texture work for the models I've made for the park scene done and maybe the exterior of the house model to share some shots of that too.
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                     I did a terrible job of avoiding the temptation of getting lost in gaming after I got my new hardware. I spent a huge chunk of the first two weeks spending most of my days gaming, catching up on stuff I've wanted to get around to the past few years while I've been struggling with hardware issues. I'm starting to get it a bit more under control, but most of this month has been a write off so far, heh. I haven't got around to finishing and polishing that puzzle game; I haven't really done much of anything with Godot this month yet, but I've started to get the urge to get back into it again over the past day or two.
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                         More importantly though I've finally started to get back into Blender a fair bit the past 3-4 days. For those who don't know, Sculpt January is going on right now, which is a month long series of daily sculpting challenges interested artists can take part in and post their results on social media and I've been following a few of this years participants and it helped light a fire in me to finally get more serious about my character design work. So I spent a few days working on an anatomy study to get back into the flow of things. I took a 3D scan and broke it up into many smaller parts, basically one for every major body part and did a sculpt of each until I ended up with a complete segmented model of a human body. Once I was done and happy with the results, I took that model and resized all the various parts to fit the proportions I was going for with the homeless girl character. I wanted to go with a stylized ~6.5 head tall setup which is fairly common with a lot of anime characters.
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                         I then went on to get in there and really start to refine the overall shape, especially with the head and making her a fair bit thinner and more youthful than the original 3D scan model. Once I was happy with the results, which at that time was up around a 2.2 million tri count, I started to boolean the various parts together and smooth out the transitions. But things were still too high poly - even after removing the overlapping geometry it came in at almost 1.8m tris - so I went through with a 0 weight brush and a lower constant detail value and simplified most of the body and the top/back of head and got things down to around 900k tris which was very workable as long as I kept the head and body separate.
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                         At this point it is ready to get retopologized, which is where I use face snapping and a shrink wrap modifier to start extruding out a new clean low poly mesh over the top of my high poly rough sculpt. The results will be the base game model that I'll then add a multires modifier to in order to bump up the poly count substantially, even higher than the rough sculpt eventually, to do the detail sculpting. When that is done the high poly detail will get baked to a normal map I can apply to the base game mesh and then I'll go in and paint the really fine detail into a black and white bump/height map to get things like pores and wrinkles and what have you, all the details that are too small to influence the silhouette that make no sense to sculpt. The resulting bump map can then be baked into the previous normal map to get the final version.
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                         Before I get to the detail sculpt and bump map painting though, I will probably take a bit of time to add hair: her starting hairdo, eyebrow, pubes, probably a bit of something for the armpits. (Don't worry, if you prefer shaved girls, the pubes and armpit hair will be something that can be removed during the course of the game - if you so desire. But a homeless girl with no former experience with appealing to the opposite sex isn't really the type to give much thought - or resources - towards shaving such regions, so it makes more sense to have her with them from the start.)
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                         After all that is done I can get into materials/textures, rigging/weight painting, getting at least her default outfit made and start on some of the animation work.
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                     I originally wanted to wait until I had her a lot further along to start sharing art, but with all my setbacks and recent time wasting with binge gaming, I'm getting tired of holding back on sharing at least a bit of something, even if none of it's even close to a finished state yet. I'm sure any of you actually interested in all this don't want to wait any longer to start seeing some images either, so I've decided I will start posting the early WIP images and update more regularly with new images to show the progress being made. So with that in mind, please be aware this stuff is really early work that will change quite a bit. Almost nothing is textured at this time and most of it is straight up viewport snapshots in Blender's default solid shade mode. No rendering or any of that going on, I'm not even at a point where I've started to move things to 2.8 to start working on their materials in Eevee yet.
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                         Here is the rough sculpt of the homeless girl to start things out. It still needs a lot of work and will get a lot more refinement once I get the retopo done in the next day or two. Looks a bit weird without the hair and eyebrows right now, but it will be better soon, heh.
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                         If you are curious how that compares to the segmented sculpt I used as a starting point, here you go.
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                         Here is a view of the outside of the PC's house, I started to play around with adding some colors to get an idea of the color scheme I want to go with, and made a very simple placeholder siding texture. But otherwise this is basically just using default materials for the moment.
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                         And here are some of the things I've made for the park scene so far. I've made more since I took this screenshot and started to position things where they belong, but this makes for a better overview with them all close together still in one shot. Again I haven't done any material/texture work for any of this yet. Those green bits you see represent water for the big fountain/water feature that will be near the park entrance, it will have a geyser style fountain on the top with water pooling in those rounded corners and creating a bit of a waterfall affect as they spill over into the surrounding shallow pool. Those long light gray strips running under the bridge are placeholders for the creek and the divided roadway that runs through the valley. That big black outline that can be seen a bit in the background was my initial start to deciding the boundaries for the park and the woodland area beyond the overpass.
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                         Here is a closer look at the overpass. Her makeshift cardboard shelter will be in that furthest back area, setup in one of those gaps between the protrusions in the foundations of those support structures.
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                         Finally, here is a closer look at her shelter. Haven't done much with this in a while; I basically haven't touched it since like the day I started working on this project. Though I did start to make a nicer looking cardboard model a while back I could use to replace these simple cube bits with.
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                         As a bonus, here is a look at how I start planning town designs. I basically extrude out a plane into a road grid to map out the streets, and add text labels where I think buildings should go. Keep in mind most of the things on this map atm are not planned areas to visit. I just wanted to make a believable town with all the common stuff one would need for it to function. Stuff that sound like places that would be good date spots or stores to get things for her or the house will be the ones that do get added down the line, most of the rest will get low poly models to fill in the background. The curved bit cut off at the bottom is the beach/shore line, though it doesn't end in those spots to either side that drop down to the bottom of the image, that was just as far as I modelled things so far. Some of the labels outside of the main town area were brought in closer to the town to fit them on the image, many will be a fair bit further out when things are done. If the roads look odd and not straight, its because I actually already started to sculpt the terrain, I just hid that layer to make it easier to read the labels, the placeholder roads got shrink wrapped to the terrain so they look a bit odd atm. There will also be a number of smaller streets and alleys cutting across a lot of these blocks, but I started with the major roads first. Some will also continue on past the town, but again, those weren't necessary to the initial planning so they have not been added here yet. To give some perspective on scale, that park is about 200 meters long from top to bottom.
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                     Looks good, but she looks pretty well fed (not fat but not starving either). Not sure if that's the image you'd want to portray. Given the topic, you could make here skinnier, to the point of becoming unattractive and then maybe gain some weight after the story progresses.
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                     I can see what you mean, but she's only been on the streets a few months and has done a fairly good job with figuring out reliable locations for dumpster diving and the like. While her mother was still alive she wasn't exactly cared for, but she never left her completely neglected. She at least made sure her daughter had a little money to buy food and necessities. So she learned a fair bit of self-sufficiency and picked up a frugal nature pretty early on in life. Her problems came more from social and emotional neglect rather than things like malnutrition or other physical abuses.
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                     I'll be spending today retopoing her though and I do plan to tweak some things a bit when that is done. Also that screenshot was done in an orthographic view, so the appearance of some of her features may be a bit misleading due to the lack of perspective in the image. When dealing with high poly sculpt models like that you get better performance staying with orthographic views, that way Blender (or any other sculpt program for that matter) doesn't have to do the perspective calculations for all those faces on top of everything else. I was periodically switching to perspective to check on things though. But the other reason I went with ortho for that shot was that in a T pose like that, it's hard to center her without the closer arm getting cut off by the edge of the image while having the camera so close on her and the perspective was a bit too much at that range, distorting things more than I'd like and I didn't feel like fiddling with draw distance values  and camera tricks to fix it when the orthographic view was a key press away, heh.
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                     I went with a stylized ~6.5 head tall basis for her proportions. I'm not shooting for a very realistic art style with this game, but I'm also not going for straight up anime style either. I want something in between with the environments done in a style very similar to anime backgrounds, though perhaps slightly more detailed. Characters with more realistic faces, but with stylized body proportions similar to what is common in many anime. In terms of materials I'd like to go for something a bit like the Illusion games, but with a better material setup for full PBR support. I always liked the way their characters have realistic elements to their appearance, but are still quite clearly stylized works of art that you wouldn't confuse with reality. Though I'm probably going to tend to go even more towards the stylized end of the spectrum than they have, for instance I'm planning to do the hair with solid shapes instead of particles or semi-transparent cards (which is the route I think Illusion and many other game makers take).
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                     So with all that in mind I guess I am going for a style somewhere between Honey Select/Play Home and Borderlands, with a better material/lighting set up than any of those.
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                     So I finally got a retopo I'm fairly happy with, might rework some parts down the line, but at this point I'm satisfied enough to move forward with the model. There are still a few things I have to do with it, mainly clean up the fingers, toes and ears. As there was only so much I could do with them while still using the shrinkwrap modifier. I may just end up making a vertex group to exclude those bits from the shrinkwrap so I can clean up the geometry placement in those spots.
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                     I may even go back into the rough sculpts for a little touch up. The forearms are a bit wonky, the bottom of the rib cage sticks out a bit too far in the front, the corners of her lips and lower cheeks can be pulled back a little further and I feel like the thighs can use a bit more definition. Right now I went with a pretty standard straight grid setup that most game models use, but thighs are a lot more complex in reality, with a lot of crisscrossing muscles that cause very defined edges cutting across the front and back of the thighs in a variety of poses, even with people who aren't very muscular. But that bit will have to wait until some other time once I've given enough thought to the matter and done a few anatomy study sculpts for that region to better solidify my understanding and come up with a better topology approach for it.
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                     For those curious about geometry stats, as it stands the retopo of the body and head right now is coming in at about 20k tris with the single level of the subsurf accounted for. I have a feeling that by the time I finish her nether region, mouth, eyes and hair, she'll be a lot close to 40k tris.
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                     Thanks, that is possible in Blender, considering that was what I made it in, heh. I've been using Blender as my primary 3D design tool for over 12 years now (used Maya for 6-7 years previous to that). It isn't rigged yet, but it will likely be at some point in the next month or two, depending on how motivated and focused I can keep myself. My main project will be in full 3D with animated models. (Though you probably won't be able to explore the environment much, beyond moving the camera during sexual encounters. It will be using maps to navigate around the world and interactions will mostly be handled VN style. If you've tried anything like
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                     , it will be a bit like that in regards to how you get around and interact, just with the static renders replaced with 3D environments and character models.)
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                     Also, if you are just starting out, don't let yourself get discouraged. 3D design is a daunting field with a steep learning curve that you are going to have to fight through at your own pace without giving up if you hope to eventually start making works of art you can be proud of. It helps if you have some sort of background with physical sculpting and or 2D art (drawing/painting/etc), but not at all necessary. They just tend to speed up the time it takes to find your legs with 3D art. It never hurts to get into a daily habit with something like drawing though, even if it's only 10-20 minutes a day at first working on stuff like gesture drawing, it will make a huge difference in your ability to see things properly and work confidently.
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                     I kinda took it easy over the weekend, so haven't got a lot done recently. But I have got the inside of the mouth sculpted out into 4 separate parts atm, got to retopo them and join it all together and connect it to the head, Yesterday and today I started to play around with Eevee, Blender 2.8's new real-time PBR viewport render engine. It's rather nice, I've mostly just been messing around in the LookDev view mode, which gives you access to some built in HDRI maps and simplifies some stuff so you can have a nice and responsive view that will give you a good idea how your materials are looking.
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                     Heh, sorry lads, that was a one off tit for science. =P
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                     I'm still working on this game in the sense that I haven't abandoned the project, but I've spent the past month or two doing tons of sculpting/modeling practice to level up my skills as it were. That and getting comfortable with the new version of Blender (2.8) that should be released shortly, which I've pretty much really fallen in love with at this point, despite a few remaining warts they still need to work out.
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                     Most of the story details worth sharing at this point have already been shared in previous posts. Much more than that and it would just get into straight up spoilers, I try to stick to sharing more big picture overview and background type stuff here, leaving the more detailed stuff to be discovered in game when the time comes.
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                     I tend to spend about 6-10 hours a day on average in Blender with various practice art projects and I'm starting to get faster and my knowledge of anatomy keeps getting better, so I'm fairly happy with the progress I've been making. I do still need to start spending some more time on texture painting, which is probably still my weakest area of skills when it comes to getting models to a finished state. But I haven't figured out the best way to practice such things in an efficient manner, so I tend to keep putting it off. I'm thinking I might furnish one of the rooms of the house and use that for my texture painting practice. That way I'd get a nice assortment of small to moderately large objects to work with.
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                     Anyhow, here's a few screenshots of a small handful of the practice sculpts I've been working on. Some are based on character sheets I found online, while for others I used ripped game models as reference, then some where just purely drawn from imagination. A lot of times I've left off before getting to things like the fingers and toes, as they are too fiddly for sculpting in most cases, they need really high density to be done well and that makes the scenes pretty unworkable usually if I don't isolate the high detail areas into separate meshes like I did with the first one here. Generally I just model the fingers/toes with traditional box modelling and work them in as I'm doing the retopo.
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                     When I was ready to hit post on this, I realized how crazy long it became, so I might as well mark it as an official progress update, lol.
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                     Rarely a day goes by where I'm not spending 6-12 hours messing around with different art projects to improve my skills. I feel I've been progressing by leaps and bounds with sculpting, but still only just trudging along with the texture/painting side of things. I ended up sculpting a new model for the main girl from scratch a while back, and been cleaning it up here and there ever since, this is what she currently looks like. I have two versions of her, one with the breasts hanging natural, and a second with the breasts as if they were in a bra, so I could start sculpting clothes for her as well. I have some starter sculpts for a bra, panties, socks, pants, a knit cap, and some glasses, but they are still too rough for me to want to bother sharing those atm, so here is just her base segmented sculpt with the two breast versions.
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                     I've messed around with a preliminary sculpt for her vag as well.
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                     I also started to test out some ideas for how I'd like to do her hair. I think I will be going with a curve based mesh setup. Here is a quick test image I came up with trying out making a few strands.
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                     I started to mess around with making some more background stuff. The following is a quick sculpt of a claw foot for an old fashion tub and I brought it into the scene with the tub I made a while back to see how closely it would fit with it, I will have to tweak it a bit after I retopo it to make it fit snug against the base of the tub on both ends, but I like how it's going so far. And as a bit of a bonus, I also had a bit of fun messing around with making a rubber ducky sculpt, heh.
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                     I started to try out something kinda interesting, a seamless repeating sculpt for a stone retainer wall that will run down into the park pond from along side the road that runs along above. I set it up to repeat I think like 3-4 times here, and just started to rough in the stone placements. Still got to give them more depth and detail, but I like how it is starting to come along. Once I got the rough sculpting done I can retopo just one repeat of the pattern and bake out maps for it that should also be seamless and then I can make that low poly version follow and repeat along a curve that I can use to make it fit the area I have in mind for it just right.
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                     On the texture front I managed to get a few promising results, but still got a long ways to go. The following are a (poorly) repeating woodgrain, a test of a way to paint foliage, an example of a similar foliage texture put to use, and a very quick example of one way I can approach painting some pubes after someone made a joke about bushes when they saw the previous pictures, heh. Then finally a very basic grass setup that still needs a bunch of extra work, I want to do a dirt texture I can mix in patches of to break up the grass a bit more and I also plan to paint some small clumps of grass and weeds I can stick on particles that I can plop down sparsely over the top of the ground as well for a bit of extra detail and interest.
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                     A friend who was recently working on trying to get a good looking jizz material got me interested in trying as well. Unfortunately I couldn't get this to work with Eevee, so it is in Cycles only for now, but I kinda like how it started to work out after an hour or so of messing about with it. The sculpt was just a quick couple minute thing I tossed together to have something to test with, so don't mind the low quality of it. I also didn't want to mess around with setting up a proper environment, so I just took a screenshot of the viewport preview, instead of rendering it out so it is pretty grainy still.
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                     Then there was also a lot of non-game stuff I've been messing with, in part just for fun and also to test out the new sculpt tools in the Blender sculpt branch and now the latest experimental nightly builds for 2.81 which had a lot of the sculpt branch improvements merged. I made something of a sculpt blank/template I could use as a quick starting point for new sculpts. And then I also ended up messing around with several fanart sculpts that are in various stages of completion, none of them are textured, the ones with different colors are using matcaps set to use the object colors, so each color is on a different sculpted object. I ended up making Tron Bonne from the Mega Man Legends series, she is the furthest along so far, basically ready to be retopo'd and textured. Then a rough sculpt of Centorea from Monster Musume, starting to mess around with how I want to approach adding her hair/tail at this point. And a quick 1-2 hour sculpt of Ahsoka Tano from The Clone Wars.
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                     So that's a good chunk of the better looking stuff I've come up with over the past few months or so. There is a ton of other stuff I worked on that didn't turn out so well and are thus not really worth sharing. I also got distracted for a while porting a bunch of Mega Man Legends assets into Blender and cleaning them up to get them in a state fit for sharing. Always loved that game, so when I heard someone finally came up with some tools for ripping models and environment tiles, I jumped at the chance to eventually realizing a 20+ year desire to see the entire island the game takes place on as a single continuous map. Still got a long ways to go on that, but it is something I now only spend a few hours a week on, instead of taking up most of my day as it did for the first month or so after I started on it. &gt;.&lt;
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                     I'm kinda tempted to do something of a second business idea, which would be basically releasing free template assets that folks could use to jump start their creative process and get faster higher quality results. Stuff like that sculpt template above, but also in a ton of different varieties for different styles from realistic to cartoonish and in several different body types for both males and females. I'd also probably do parts for various monster hybrids as well, such as that horse body from the Centorea sculpt. Probably would even include some stuff that would be useful for furries and the like. I'd like to have not only sculpt templates, but also low poly rigged versions of the various body parts that can be resized and merged together to get a good starting point for those who would rather work with mesh instead of sculpting. I'd also mess around with creating easy to edit texture files where each color is on it's own layer, to make it simple to customize as needed. I'd also like to have good templates for a wide variety of clothing options. And probably a bunch of simplified low poly starting points for architectural elements, furnishing and other props.
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                     One of the pluses to this is that I'd mostly be making things I need for my own games at the start anyhow and just saving out more generalized intermediate stages of those things that would be of use to others to help them save a lot of time and effort getting started with their own asset creation. I also just love to sculpt characters, so the sculpt blanks are a huge time saver for me as well in the long run and I can't see a good reason to keep them just for myself when I know so many others could benefit from them.
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                     It's a bit early yet, to say what will come of this, as I got a lot of things to figure out and preparations to be made. But I'd like to have a wiki setup for it, where I can catalog my templates in a well structured manner that should be fairly easy for users to navigate and find what they need. I'd also like to have a community contribution section, both for people to share their variations on stuff I release as well as any original stuff they'd like to share as well. I'm thinking I'd also use the wiki to come up with some tutorials to give people ideas of some good workflows using the various templates and such. I'd also probably like to set up a twitter (or similar) account for announcing updates/additions to the template library and maybe a reddit to allow whatever sort of community pops up around this to help each other and show off their work. I'd also have to figure out which donation services I'd want to use to help support this and if I'd want to dual purpose it for both my game projects and the asset template library or set those up separately. So a lot to think about and figure out.
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                     But I have no intentions of abandoning my game projects, especially this main one. Progress on the game itself is slow atm, but it will remain an important goal for me until I finally finish it.
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