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                     While I generally don't like netorare as whole (I don't mind netori if it's written well). I thought this could be a fun little debate about what character archetype do you people think is the most cucked in hentai and porn (games, stories, comics/ manga, etc)? Examples:
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                     9. The older brother (doesn't have to be related)
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                        Yeah, sadly most fathers/ Husbands are not portrayed in a good light (for better or worse), but the question is more, if the husband/ father is actually good, how does his "cuckold level" compare to the others?
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                     Other than Milfy City, I can't really think of one who hasn't done something to earn the ire of his wife and family. The trope mentions the brother in the game My Legacy, who's wife and daughters you impregnate while they stay with you as another schlub, but he's also a bit of an asshole, forcing his wife into his vegan diet, kinda treating them all with disrespect and disinterest.
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                     I'll bite. It seems that either #2 (nerdy young man) or #6 (upstanding husband/father) is the archetype most often cucked in games. But are these archetypes you mention the MC or NPCs?
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                     The main reason I'm replying is because I don't quite yet understand why some people react in ways that that suppose brothers (and sons? you left that one out) are "cucked" when other men pursue their sister(s) or mother.
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                     But if I'm playing a game where I'm the younger brother with the hots for my sexy sister, or I'm the son with the hots for my mother (and it seems like in most games it's BOTH haha), and my sister and/or mother is interested in and/or being pursued by other men, I don't understand how that's being cucked or how that's NTR. She's my fucking sister! I'm not
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                     I guess I just literally don't understand how a brother or son can be "cucked" when his sister or mother is being pursued by another man if part of the game is to defeat that competitor. Unless a game's storyline
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                        I'll bite. It seems that either #2 (nerdy young man) or #6 (upstanding husband/father) is the archetype most often cucked in games. But are these archetypes you mention the MC or NPCs?
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                        The main reason I'm replying is because I don't quite yet understand why some people react in ways that that suppose brothers (and sons? you left that one out) are "cucked" when other men pursue their sister(s) or mother.
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                        But if I'm playing a game where I'm the younger brother with the hots for my sexy sister, or I'm the son with the hots for my mother (and it seems like in most games it's BOTH haha), and my sister and/or mother is interested in and/or being pursued by other men, I don't understand how that's being cucked or how that's NTR. She's my fucking sister! I'm not
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                        I guess I just literally don't understand how a brother or son can be "cucked" when his sister or mother is being pursued by another man if part of the game is to defeat that competitor. Unless a game's storyline
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                     I agree. I actually kinda like the guy, despite the fact that he is an obstacle between you and mommy's legs. He clearly has some problems with his wife, but I don't really think that is actually his fault. To me, it seems like mommy simply outgrew him, and due to her incest desire for her own son, she lost interest in him. He obviously don't understand why she is so distant to him, but he gets turned on when she snaps at him, and he clearly don't want his family to break apart, so he ignores it. He most often treats his children decently, even if he doesn't have a lot of time for them, and is clearly a hard working man. He has some weird ass fetishes, but I don't judge him because of that, because my own dark desires makes his look like nothing.
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                        The main reason I'm replying is because I don't quite yet understand why some people react in ways that that suppose brothers (and sons? you left that one out) are "cucked" when other men pursue their sister(s) or mother.
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                     Spoken like a true cuck. You're OK with your mother or sister having sex with someone else?
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                        While I generally don't like netorare as whole (I don't mind netori if it's written well). I thought this could be a fun little debate about what character archetype do you people think is the most cucked in hentai and porn (games, stories, comics/ manga, etc)? Examples:
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                        Sure man and then you see the 6 o clock news about a jealous husband shoot his wife and her new lover.. it's like this everyday and this is ReaL life NTR. for you..
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                     Yeah, I have no idea if I would actually enjoy it IRL.
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                        While I generally don't like netorare as whole (I don't mind netori if it's written well). I thought this could be a fun little debate about what character archetype do you people think is the most cucked in hentai and porn (games, stories, comics/ manga, etc)? Examples:
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                     There a couple issues answering this. The way these character types are portrayed in games vs real life can be quite a bit different.
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                     What the games portray as the average person doesn't meet what the average male is actually like. I would more define them as losers in real life people who don't have any real character strength they let people walk all over them. While yes most people are sheep not all will simply let someone complete walk all over and will put up quite a fight over what they care about.
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                     If being a nerd was based purely on intelligence say 130+ most people who are that high in real life aren't recognized as being such.
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                     The person who gets cucked the most in games is over whelmingly the average guy portrayed by the games. The person who isn't paying attention doesn't have his priorities in the right area(works to much) and most the time portrayed as having an average penis or less than average. Games make an exagerated amount of average-ness for the character for him to be recognized as such.
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                        There a couple issues answering this. The way these character types are portrayed in games vs real life can be quite a bit different.
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                        What the games portray as the average person doesn't meet what the average male is actually like. I would more define them as losers in real life people who don't have any real character strength they let people walk all over them. While yes most people are sheep not all will simply let someone complete walk all over and will put up quite a fight over what they care about.
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                        If being a nerd was based purely on intelligence say 130+ most people who are that high in real life aren't recognized as being such.
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                        The person who gets cucked the most in games is over whelmingly the average guy portrayed by the games. The person who isn't paying attention doesn't have his priorities in the right area(works to much) and most the time portrayed as having an average penis or less than average. Games make an exagerated amount of average-ness for the character for him to be recognized as such.
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                     A majority of the time, characters in these things are stereotyped and/or over the top... It is highly rare for that much realism to play out in most character personalities and caricatures, when it comes to this niche industry... I would never compare real life to what happens in a majority of these VN/Games... That is why these are Fiction and typically based on creative fantasies and exaggerations, rather then folks with real moral compasses and social graces...
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                     So, in the real world, you do not see every woman in a place becoming sexually attracted to that one guy in the room, and then swooning all over him, forsaking all other guys present... Not all women like penis's the size of logs and most penis's really can't bend in all sorts of directions, like some VN/Games show, when fully erect without some degrees of pain involved... Breasts the size of bowling balls do not defy gravity, are not perky, and are in reality harmful in many ways to women's backs and so forth... And so on and so forth... So you really can't compare much of what occurs in these VN/Games to what really happens and/or how people would really act in the real world, as compared to adult/erotic fiction...
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