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                     Okay, I've played a dozen or two h games to this point, more than half of them with incest themes.  I've seen a lot of complaints and comments that the genre is more than a little played out/clichéd at this point.  So I have a few thoughts  on how to change things up a bit:
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                     1. Lean into it and go over the top--why stop at Mom/Sister(s)/Aunt/Cousin(s)?  Throw in Stepmom/Stepsisters etc..  Maybe Grandma's a Cougar! In laws, foster families, etc.  Make it huge.
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                     2. Shift perspective/play ingame--go back and forth between male MC and the female characters in the game.  It gives them a greater impression of agency, they can choose to be willing participants or pursuers rather than always being the pursued.
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                     3. Try different mechanics for pursuing the courtship/goal.  Peep/stalk/grope/corrupt/blackmail
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                     4. Switch up and vary ages, body types, etc.
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                        Okay, I've played a dozen or two h games to this point, more than half of them with incest themes.  I've seen a lot of complaints and comments that the genre is more than a little played out/clichéd at this point.  So I have a few thoughts  on how to change things up a bit:
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                        1. Lean into it and go over the top--why stop at Mom/Sister(s)/Aunt/Cousin(s)?  Throw in Stepmom/Stepsisters etc..  Maybe Grandma's a Cougar! In laws, foster families, etc.  Make it huge.
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                     Can you write? Because these are the same conclusions I came to before beginning to write my own games. First one is an Incest plot that has more character development, swaps between the brother and sister, isn't creepy, although doesn't jump the shark.
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                     One other thought is to change things up culturally/racially.  What about families of color, or perhaps Dad remarried a woman of a different ethnicity.  Even just changing up hair color would be nice.  I'd love to see a redhead mom!
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                        I actually have a creative writing degree, studied multimedia about 20 years ago and am familiar with Poser and DAZ3D, though I'm not a coder.
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                        One other thought is to change things up culturally/racially.  What about families of color, or perhaps Dad remarried a woman of a different ethnicity.  Even just changing up hair color would be nice.  I'd love to see a redhead mom!
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