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                        Just was wondering if there were other persons out here who share my thoughts on how a dev could make a great game with tons of potential but stab himself via he'd rather take a hit to progression over what i think to be many if not some other ways where the game doesn't suffer and he learns how to code side note.... he's been making the game on his own for a long time so what is this really about
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                      As cinema sins is wont to sin, you've played the pronoun game, offered no details or specifics about your grievance. I can't answer any questions without some idea of what "this" is.​
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                     If that's the case, which is kinda how I read it too, though I think there's another specific issue in question there are a few things to talk about.
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                     First - Oni is not originally a game designer. As a connoisseur of rule34 I have known about Oni for quite some time. As a result it's likely that Oni is still producing regular art for their income, ie, commissions, their patreon page, any other obligations, etc.
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                     Second - Ren'Py isn't that hard to code, so while I have no doubt that Oni does have some trouble stumbling with it, the code is not taking up so much of their time that they're unable to keep updates rolling.
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                     Third - Rogue-Like is a 2D game. 2D art, unlike 3D, takes a lot of time just to do. With 3D you create the character once and then after that it's all about posing and getting things right, the majority of your time is just spent rendering. With 2D you actually have to redraw a lot. Some things, especially sprites, can be recycled, but put the sex acts in a new location, add characters, change positions, anything like this, and you have weeks worth of drawing and colour work to do.
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                     Look, for instance, at summertime saga, it's a slightly larger project, but has relatively similar gameplay, they only just released their recent update. Their last update before this was in January.
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                     So, could Oni hire a coder? Sure, especially if Oni wants to expand some functionality. Will that reduce time between updates? Not nearly enough to make a noticeable difference. The time consuming part isn't the code. Most of that is really simple. The time consuming part is the art. And Oni does great art.
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                        I don't think so. It's more that his real passion is drawing, and making a game with his drawing is a consequence of this, but just a consequence. So he past most of his free time drawing, and when he found some extended free time, he works on his game.
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                     I'm fairly certain it's this exactly. People have to remember that he didn't start out as a game dev, and it's likely not where he makes the majority of his income from. Assuming that he gets most of his income from his works, then he's probably getting the majority of it from his Artwork, not his one single game that he works on. He has other priorities, outside of Rogue Like and so he probably doesn't focus on it as much as some of us might like to. When people only know him for Rogue Like, it's hard to remember that it's not his only project.
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