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                     So, guys, I was thinking. Some DEVs made story and fetishes list for their game ahead. I suggested many of them to add NTR (or other content) and they said, that it won't fit the story/their vision etc.
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                     So, what do you think about idea - add (paid or not) DLC with any fetish ppl want? This won't spoil idea/mood because it is nonexistent in the game w/o installed DLC. So win/win scenario.
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                     NTR is perhaps most easy fetish to add, just in every game, typical for Patreon, MC fucks certain woman (like neighbours daughter) quit late in story. So, just add one scene when someone fucks her out of nowhere before MC or impregnates her.
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                     Or add postcriptum (epilogue) with NTR Mystery - MC realizes, that he was cheated - once or in affair. But player see that AFTER the game hehe.
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                     NTR is just example, dev could try it with more fetishes (like change graphics with futa, changing text for incest).
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                        So, guys, I was thinking. Some DEVs made story and fetishes list for their game ahead. I suggested many of them to add NTR (or other content) and they said, that it won't fit the story/their vision etc.
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                        So, what do you think about idea - add (paid or not) DLC with any fetish ppl want? This won't spoil idea/mood because it is nonexistent in the game w/o installed DLC. So win/win scenario.
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                     It's something I've joked about doing, and it could be a good idea, but I don't know how well it would work.
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                        Well, DLC is something you plan for in the very early stages of your game design. If the developer says they think DLCs just won't fit into their game, it might be because of a technical or design issue that is not easy for them to solve.
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                        So, what do you think about idea - add (paid or not) DLC with any fetish ppl want? This won't spoil idea/mood because it is nonexistent in the game w/o installed DLC. So win/win scenario.
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                     Actually it's a lose/lose scenario. Adding those DLCs just means, that the dev will have to put time into those, which means less work on the actual game. This in turn means less content for the normal user and more work for the dev.
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                        NTR is perhaps most easy fetish to add, just in every game, typical for Patreon, MC fucks certain woman (like neighbours daughter) quit late in story. So, just add one scene when someone fucks her out of nowhere before MC or impregnates her.
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                     Random scenes like this add nothing to a game for me. A scene has to have some buildup and make sense. But yeah I get, it's just an example and you didn't brainstorm for a decent scene, so whatever.
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                        Or add postcriptum (epilogue) with NTR Mystery - MC realizes, that he was cheated - once or in affair. But player see that AFTER the game hehe.
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                     The problem with stuff like this is, that it has to make sense. When, where, why and with whom did she cheat on the MC? Can't forget the W-Questions. Way too many devs just slap scenes into their games with no context or anything already, imho.
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                        NTR is just example, dev could try it with more fetishes (like change graphics with futa, changing text for incest).
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                     Every single fetish added would reduce the actual content of the game to create fetish variations. This is also one of the biggest problem with community based development. A Dev should have a vision and a plan for his game. Suggestions are fine, but if they don't want NTR in their games they shouldn't add it. Not even for a 10000$ patron. If oyu have to add stuff that you don't want into your game you won't be passionate about it and the quality will be reduced.
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                     No it doesn't. It actually just hides content behind another paywall. Since all the games are pretty much behind a paywall already, you'd then have an outer and an inner paywall.
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                     The better option would be to just make the game as complete and cohesive as possible and give the user the option to turn off certain fetishes, like NTR, scat, gore, gay stuff, etc.
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                     All in all I think Devs should just make the games they wanna make. If you add every fetish the community wants the game won't be finished before the year 2050.
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                     I do not like the idea.
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                     When you create a game either alone or in a team, you always come to a limit in terms of time devoted to the content you can offer.
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                     If you choose to use this time for a "bonus" content, it means agreeing to take some time away from the real content of the game.
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                     Especially when at the same time we see very well that nothing happens in the story and we were treated to 2 poor sex scenes with no real interest.
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                     Unless obviously a finished game to which we could add things because we do not plan to make a new game or what.
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                     But honestly there is very little game completed and in addition to a developer who do not want to do another game, it is even more rare.
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                     I much prefer a deeper game, more advanced in the development even without the scene that I will love for X reasons, rather than a game that is slowing itself to satisfy a handful of people even if I am part of it.
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                     I may be wrong, but I personally find that there is little quality game available. And obviously when looking for a fetish like the NTR or others who is poorly represented it becomes even more difficult. But if we just start to want to sacrifice the work of those who can do something right for other players, we will all end up with games watered down.
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                     And every time I see that kind of thing (Dream of desire ....) All I'm saying to myself is that he's trying to make money easy rather than actually producing a game.
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                     Now it happens sometimes that we can have an idea that goes through our head but that ultimately does not fit into the story that we want to tell. And end up adding it in this form, I can understand. Because the idea comes from the developer, it is not something that is forced. So normally it will be the same level as the rest of the game But if really it is the case I prefer that the addition be done at the end of the development.
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                        About limited time/resources: Hmm, I wonder how much work comission and mod (community) can do here.
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                        Also I thought about DLC as some kind of alternate route with dead-end or spin-off.
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                     If this is the job of an outside team, it could work, but I do not believe that the adult game industry (at least in our part of the world) is at the level where the developers can go allow that or have maturity for that. Except maybe some exceptions.
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                     On this forum in the end we already have a lot of fan art and mods for popular games, now should the developers should turn to these people to produce alternative content ...? I think it's quite complicated in terms of content protection, paywall or not system and necessarily income allotted to it.
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                     But as I said, I doubt that we are at this stage ...
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                     Not to mention the problem with Patreon, since a moment, which already requires (for some) an extra effort to make patches offering the real content of the game. So for an unbanished fetish it goes but if in addition we go to things who does not stick with Patreon it complicates things even more. I say that just to highlight the fact that the industry is not stable at the moment, far from it and everything is complicated.
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                     I don't think it will work. For many fetishes adding them is quite the same as making a new game. Just thinking of a few and the effort it would take:
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                     Lesbian: Exchange all male characters for female ones, changing all references to gender in dialogues.
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                     BDSM: Creating a whole new set of scenes and bringing the submissive or dominant side of the chracters to the story.
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                     Incest: Re-writing the story, so the characters are related
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                     Rape: Create new scenes and possibly rewrite the story depending on perspective.
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                     Voyeurism: Create new scenes with a passive MC, possibly rewrite story.
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                     I most cases making a new game just makes more sense. I could think of sequels with a certain fetish for some games though.
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