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                     Hello everybody,
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                     As I download a lot of games I ended not being able to remember which game I own, where it is wich version...
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                     So I decided to make a game manager, as I'm globally satisfied with the result I decided to share it with the F95zone community.
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                     Version : 2.17.15.7
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                     Release Date :  2020-11-08
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                     Language: English
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                     Features :
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                       Synch with an online database of all games listed here (if you find a missing one, tell me).
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                       Copy games to a fully configurable install path.
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                       Download screenshots.
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                       Allow you to manage the game's tags, you can add your own tags.
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                       If you have the game's version in your directory structure it will copy saves to the new folder.
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                       You can archive games (compress ) and restore them.
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                     If you don't want to use it maybe you will find useful things on the website :
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                       An RSS feed to last updates on F95zone, you should probably use the RSS feed that you can find here on the "latest updates" page.
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                       A list of games that you can filter by tags and/or prefixes (included or excluded).
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                     Here is the link:
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                     Thanks to
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                     You can report bugs here:
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                               The same updates won't be downloaded again and again.
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                               New optimizations on thumb loading in the download window. (Unfinished.)
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                               Images background loading works better, it downloads images of games displayed in the main window (if you enabled image downloading in the preference window)
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                     Names in the update window definitely handy, but if a filter is too tricky or laggy, then maybe an icon to help distinguish owned titles that have been updated that session. There are just too many titles updated frequently to have to read through them all.
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                     New version :
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                     Added an owned icon on the update window so you can see if you own one of the updated games.
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                     Added a new version button on the main window: it will filter games where your version is not the same than the one on the DB.
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                     Added a button on the edit window that will copy "last version" input to "your version".
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                     Well, it's kind of hard to find games. I don't know what kind of file I have to find, is it an exe, an html file?
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                        Well, it's kind of hard to find games. I don't know what kind of file I have to find, is it an exe, an html file?
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                        So what I do is for each directory try to find games that sounds the same. If I find it then I list files that could be used to launch the game (exe, html, swf)
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                        Later when my app will rule the world I would be able to ask devs to put a little ini file in their game folder so that they will be properly detected
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                     You can use the database to include this i.e. which games is html-based and so on...
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                     I like your app idea, keep the game work to rule the world
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                        I'll make a virtual update, you will get it. The other way is that you use "force all" button but it will resynch all games. Maybe I will think of a way to update/add a game for these cases.
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                     Very strange, how many games do you get if you search "gla"? You should have 5 results : Glassix, Glamour, Glamalon X, England exchange and Glamour.
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                     Thanks for this. Having an easy way to find which of my games have updates and to do searches on multiple game tags has been a huge help.
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                     I ran across a missing game as well: Fashion Business: Monica's Adventures. I tried to update based on ThreadID (11501 and 2143), but didn't have any luck. I also did a Force All which didn't help either. The game is on your website list, but I noticed that clicking on the Info button shows the info as either blank or from the last game I clicked on.
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                     It looks like the Thread ID update is based on the Info link from your website and the IDDISTANT field in the games database, not the Thread ID from F95. Using ID 5528 didn't bring up anything, but using ID 115 brought up Battle of the Bulges. That's not a problem for me, but might be useful for anyone else trying to use the feature.
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                     You're right!! IDDistant is the game's ID on my server, not the F95 thread ID, it should now be fixed.
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                     This bug made me understand why some games weren't added to the local database, so this issue should also be fixed.
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                        WoW ... merci this is very usefull, I have a question would it be possible to add a played/not played button. Because I'm new to the "game" scene I'm getting convused... have I played this already or not...let's say an overdose, therefore that button could help me
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                        Nice idea and I don't mean to rain on your parade at all.
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                        I have a folder for all my adult games, each sub folder is either the one for all the tools (unren, etc.), one of developer folders (where I have more than one game by a dev) or the game (which are also the sub folders of the dev.
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                     In a perfect world I would do like you say, but you'll see when you'll get as old as me: I can't even remember games names, so I need a way to see last games I've played and with a picture so that I can recognize the game
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                     I have made a little update to the site: the "latest" rss feed should now work better.
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                     A little update on the prog too: when updating a game's data it doesn't reselect it properly, now it should work fine.
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                     I have a little question: when you update a game (putting the path to the exe file for example) I update the timestamp so that it will appear first when you sort games by date DESC, do you think it's ok your should I keep the timestamp it was updated here?
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                     This should only be for that version and should untick when a newer version is added, making it appear on the filtered list as a new release.
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                     Game list should save and cache the thread titles of f95 to be used with the folder name of the games.
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                     Thought behind this is that the user just uses the thread title as the folder name of the game.
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                     This should be used to automatically detect the version number and be used with a folder watcher for  your games.
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                     Last notes, the folder scanner really need to ignore .exe files and the like that is already added to a game. it keep listing out everything i have already added which isn't how it should be.
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                     It removes the search choices i picked but not all the wrong searches it tried to match with.
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                     Really loving this so far.
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                     Also would really love a dark theme to match f95 and many other programs.
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                     Will be using this all the way going forward aswell as recommend it to everyone that like such things.
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                     Sorry for the ramble there, great program but could be better in some places.
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                     There need to be an added workflow to update games, either unzip or point to the folder/exe more easily with the updated version number.
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                     I guess it all depends on how people have it all sorted. but this program could technically sort it for us in an unified manner that works.
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                     like: Gametitle/version number or version title and have the game there.
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                     i think the wanted outcome would be to able to tell the program this exe and folder is this version and it would move or copy (depending on user options) into the set format.
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                     i think having an unified game title folder as a base makes it easier with less folders.
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                     you could also build on this with syncing save folders for RenPy games at a minimum. each RenPy game could have its own save folder next to the game versions. the client could handle these and sync them over as you go. allowing for more simple unified save management across the different versions.
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                     Manually searching up the game in the client, clicking edit, editing the version number or pressing the use current button. Then finally pointing to the new exe or whatever is too many steps when you do more than just one at a time.
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                     Need an import option to update all of this for you while moving files into the correct location for the collection.
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                     RenPy saves should ask if you want to copy from old version to new if there is saves.
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                     oh thats great to hear!
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                     Already voices my biggest gripes with it.
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                     What would that entail and what have you planed for it?
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                     Im guessing building on the core feature set and getting faster and smoother.
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                     Also wonder if your plans would ever to be to expand from F95 metadata scraping.
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                     While F95 has most of the western stuff, having alternative scraping on say DLSite for example makes sense.
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                     Also the 3D Assets community has nothing at all like this. doing a fork with small alternations to unzip or move instead of launching and exe with the metadata scraping and managing would be amazing for those that use metadata regularly.
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                     That technically could be used with F95 too as it has an asset category. Scraping of the official sites would be required in those ways.
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                     Here is a little preview of the new client :
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                     I will also move all the site to is own server and maybe add a little forum on it to discuss about the client.
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                     It could be a good idea to add games from outside F95 but it will make things more complicated. If games comes from different sources I have to find a way to prevent duplicate creation.
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                     Yes I could make a tool for assets based on F95 list.
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                     looking good. much better use of the space for sure compared to how it was.
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                     that background is going to turn some people off though for sure haha.
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                     Download button? built in downloader and unzipper then or something else? like JDownloader DLC file creator?
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                     for General usage i think having the ability to sort by played current version would be one of the better and simpler steps you could do.
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                     looking good so far for sure. looking forward too it.
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                     worked on any of the loading back-end?
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                     seems slow to change the filter. idk. might be the drive i have it on.
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                     Personally would love an alternative version for assets. but sadly assets is lacking on F95,  sadly would need metadata scraping from Daz3D, Renderosity and Renderrotica for example.
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                     The biggest issue with assets outside of Daz is that you dont have metadata like how they do the packages.
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                     Most assets out in the wild shared and esp on F95 and other sites is Daz based and can be exported to others though that.
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                     Issue comes in when its not from the Daz3D store and doesnt come with data. having an manager that could scrape the data in a neat gui like this while having a library like this.
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                     And then the added ability to export the archives with metadata files like dsx files makes sense.
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                     Kinda like how
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                     does it.... just not manual input. for the exporting for dsx metadata files.
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                     having a library manager based on metadata even from F95 is a HUGE step in a good direction for those that collect and have a ton of these. Main issue with the options now is that everything is automatic unless its from the official Daz3D store where the official program just grabs the tags, and other data.
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                     Thoughts on how it would work. it would work like the game manager now. neat ui with searchable elements with thumbnails.
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                     Exporting with the data would be the end goal after scraping other sites.
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                     Can understand it can get messy by having it on the GL Site itself though. think such things should be local to the client instead maybe.
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                        Here is a little preview of the new client :
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                        I will also move all the site to is own server and maybe add a little forum on it to discuss about the client.
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                        It could be a good idea to add games from outside F95 but it will make things more complicated. If games comes from different sources I have to find a way to prevent duplicate creation.
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                        Yes I could make a tool for assets based on F95 list.
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                     Layout looks great, but no so sure about the Vista glass style graphics, I feel that's going to make it seem dated, even though this is the new look.
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                     I'd also like to see how it looks with the game title left aligned above the thumbnail. I'm thinking many people will browse visually via the thumbnail image, and having the title in the same visual space as the image might make it quicker to read titles.
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                     IDK, while it doesn't waste the whole top part of the UI for the title, version, creator name and links.
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                     it does waste each line with such things. hmmm
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                     It would only be one per line i too. Wouldn't scale well with larger sizes at all sadly.
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                     Might look fine in a small window. but have it in a larger window at 1440p or 4k or even maximized that some users likes to do.
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                     then all those lines will be a huge waste of space sadly.
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                     How many titles can you realistically have in view at any one time with such a view?
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                     You could do more overlays on the image instead and stick to just the image size. either squares as it is now (hopefully images on the host site can update to better images in the future) or do wide or tall covers.
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                     Wide prob makes sense as most cover images on F95 is wide 16:9 images or something for the main image of the game.
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                     by overlaying title, creator, version number over the thumbnail itself. no real need to have it take up its own space like that at all times.
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                     You could have different colors of text after what state they are in too. Red title for not installed (black for installed? or even green.) Red Version for out-of-date version and Green for being up-to-date.
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                     Urls and paths isn't needed to be in view at all times at all.
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                     Heck i don't think paths is needed at all in most use cases outside of editing.
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                     Such rare use-case data could be pushed to a tool tip instead that extends, maybe out long in a line like how you detailed.
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                     Only thing you must be aware of at that point is which side you render it at from the thumbnail, to render left if there is no space on the right side.
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                     You should also have some space for really small icons on say the lower left for engine type and favorite state.
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                     Did an example in Hydrus, ofc with scale-able cover images into larger sizes, yours are already large for even 1440p so you should have a space issue overlaying it all over the image.
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                     you almost got this nailed down with the current release.
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                     In short, keep more of what you have and push it into thumbnails, do the new UI as tool tips to only load in when needed.
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                     The download button is a place holder, I don't know what it will be doing later.
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                     I've made some UI changes :
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                     The first screen allow to display more games in a single page. Soon I will get windev 24 and I will be able to make the right panel toggle-able.
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                     On the second I removed the background image.
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                     I like the idea of being able to mark a game as finished (for the current version). Your others ideas are good too, but I think I'll first release the new ui and put all this to my new server before starting anything new.
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                     Yeah take it one step at a time and work on it, a wishlist is always long no matter what. (Hydrus is stuck with 1400+ ATM)
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                     I think the 3 biggest things you can do short term is the mark as played/finished for the current version.
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                     some bugs with auto-updating the content from your site too. for example some titles are wrong or has been changed. like, `The Intoxicating Flavor` is instead `The Intoxicating`which is incorrect obviously.
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                     But if i have the client auto-update to obviously get the version number it will overwrite the title with the incorrect title.
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                     Not all too many titles that has this issue, less than 20 i believe.
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                     EDIT: limiting opening "games" to just extensions, html or exe files is a bit limited. Some releases is a pack after all and would make more sense to open the folder as is.
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                     Not too familiar with with the game files but i would also think the exe would change between each release too right? if so then the hash value of that file would change with each update aswell. Testing is needed to confirm this across multiple types of games.
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                     If each version is different then you could easily host the hash value on your website and setup the client to just calculate it locally and look up which exe it is.
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                     Meaning you will get flawless matching of both the game and the version.
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                     SWF flash files is a given to be unique. Unity exe files is also unique by the looks of it.
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                     Renpy im not 100% across all titles, but that also can use the python files itself which is ALWAYS different.
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                     Could have an overwrite to always check the python file itself instead of the exe for RenPy to be sure.
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                     Such a system would require someone to actually get each release and map the hash to the game and version.
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                     Might have to be user uploaded at that point and that should be in the client for convenience.
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                     I've made an option that tries to guess game name and version for ren'py games, but it's a bit long.
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                     I could generate a hash for each game to identify them, but it means that I have to download each game it will take too much time and resources.
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                     Did try the folder import tool but that doesnt remove the folders already tied to a game.
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                     Meaning all the folders and exe files i have already linked to a game is still there in the list. it gets really messy and un-usable frankly even when i click hide owned.
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                     Working on that system a bit more to be more direct could be a thing.
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                     Esp when the user is naming the folders just as the thread tread with title [version][creator] which should be easy to mark.
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                     Im guessing this is using some sort of regex to match the title.
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                     Many ways to do it.
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                     I think the wanted usecase would be to drop the new folder into the "games" folder and allowing the client to either watch it at all times, and asking if you want to import it with a confirmation of the title and version.
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                     If the same title is already there then it could also ask if it wants to delete the old one.
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                     This could be done with a watcher to have it semi-automatically. Or have it manually with the manually started search as it is now (just less messy).
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                     Would remove much of the usage gripes i have with the client so far, which is mostly down to updating and sorting the content i want (newly updated titles i might have played in the past.)
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                     Hash values and such could be done by the guys that upload though, site wide rules for such a thing as identifiers.
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                     But at that point GameList could be turned into some sort of an official F95 client... using the F95 servers more. But im just thinking openly here.
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                     The new site is online, nothing new for now I just transfered it :
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                     first i would like to say that i love the program, especially since it saves a lot of hassle in keeping tabs on the games i've downloaded of the the last few years.
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                     i received the last update just now and the ui is a bit nicer, unfortunately you pushed the update out way too soon and a bit of testing before the push would've been nice
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                     - browse f95zone works as intended
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                     - owned works the same as f95zone (i reckon this should filter the games you own like the "owned" checkbox does?), the page works as soon as i use the checkbox but i guess that's not what the menu entry is for
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                     - yours  also does exactly the same as the 2 above. (guess this is the part where you should see the games you have and have a newer version? If so, you might want to rename it to Updates or something, yours and owned basically come down to the same thing.) same with the checkbox, kind of makes the menu entry obsolete.
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                     In the current state i can't seem to figure out how to easily see what games have been updated, and having only 4 games per page, with a couple of hundred games on my hd, it makes the program kind of useless at the moment.
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                     1) is it possible to add some sort of toggle to mark a game completed for the currently available release of the game?
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                     2) is it possible to change the layout for the other menu's (owned/favorite/yours/etc) to match the one that's being used for the "browse f95zone" part? Instead of the 1 game per row / 4 rows layout being used now?
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                     3) you mentioned the download button being a placeholder, maybe make that one replace the link to the f95 game thread.
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                     anyways, keep up the amazing work, your program was a complete life changer for me ^^
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                     also (and completely unrelated), i've noticed that some of the games i had where a higher version number than mentioned in the database, did a quick look and most of them where actually from f95zone, and the higher version number was mentioned in the thread but not in the game list, is there anywhere i can change these, or request a change for these in the database?
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                        The colour scheme is looking good; dark-themed apps are great, but the glass theme makes reading horrible. Glass was way over-used in the Windows Vista era, which was over 10 years ago, and that was mostly on borders and those typical blue glass buttons; using it as a background is horrible on the eyes. I think you're better of using a single colour on all backgrounds and buttons, like most modern apps do, without all the shading and gradients (similar to F95 and popular modern apps like discord, and spotify), which won't age your app prematurely like glass and gradient themes will and it will be easier to add other themes, as you may want to consider having a standard white theme, like the previous app, and making a simple dark theme as an option.
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                     I've found what to do with the download button: I'll rename it to install. It will let you chose an archive file and then extract it.
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                     install option sounds good for sure. im guessing it will either be select the exe and copy the base path and all its contents to the new location.
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                     Looking up the folder name of the exe itself or the zip name.
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                     extractions and such shouldnt be a huge focus as i would think most competent users would auto-extract on the download itself with the correct folder name.
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                     i guess it could look up a few common methods with the filenames up against F95 and ask if its correct. manual queries if that fails.
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                     I dont think individual game folders is the right way. i think gametitle/version/ would make the main games folder less messy in the end.
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                     It should be customizable to cover all bases with certain tags.
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                     Allowing for say {Creator}/{Title}/{Version}/ having the keys be pulled by the metadata of the game.
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                     Another great addition might be mark as wanted for those that use the full database. allowing for browsing in the client and marking as wanted so you keep order over the games to download.
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                     Far too many have multiple folders inside the zip instead of hosting the exe at the base of the zip.
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                     Also unsure how to correctly handle walkthoughs and other extra files.
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                     if you did the title/version folder setup then all extra files like walkthoughs and patches could be in the title folder as it might cover more than one version of the game.
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                     got the latest update, tag list and the new changed layout on the other menu entries make the app so much more appealing ty
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                     just curious, in the newer game manager how can i see (apart from looking through all the games info seperately) if a game in my list has an updated version on f95zone?
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                     The best feature about the previous version for me was the way you could filter out the games in your list with an update available by simply toggling "owned" and pressing the "latest version" button.
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                     in yours you will find games that you added to your local database (they don't have to be listed here).
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                     Really liking the lastest updates. The UI is MUCH faster and responsive which is good!
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                     I've got a small issue, one of my games has sort of been removed by the game manager, it was in the list before i restarted my computer and afterwards i got the following
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                     Weird thing is, ACADEMY34 isn't showing up in the f95zone list either.
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                     I've made an update to this game, if you refresh it should be added/updated on your list.
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                     ahhh the context menu feels good in the last update. i approve!
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                     It does seem a bit big though, even at 1440p. Makes me wonder how it would scale for even smaller screens.
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                     I think wasting two lines for the updates is a waste and the tag list also takes up too much space.
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                     Its expanding vertically, i think it makes more sense to do it horizontally.
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                     Maybe its just me, i guess i need to see it in action to give my firm feedback on it. its much better than what it was though!
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                     I think i personally would play with the layout on it, have the actions at the top where it spawns from the mouse. have the name at the bottom in large text as it is. idk... does this make sense?
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                     Throwing ideas here, feel the buttons at the bottom is in the wrong place thats all.
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                     Little reason to have the local version there or the title of the game as that is all in the icon of the game.
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                     Had an error when moving between the screens, had it loaded page 2 on my second screen which is lower res (1080p vs 1440p) which ofc will load less thumbnails on each page.
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                     I move the window back to my large screen and navigated to page 1 again to be greeted with an error.
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                     Im guessing it failed to load some thumbnails as it was expecting a different amount or something.
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                     well. i kinda liked having the info on the rigt side compared to having to right click to see it, less actions required to get an overview of the game, just highlight the game and presto you got the info.
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                     the button style of the tags though is way better compared to the text style it had before, it's a lot easier on the eyes but i would suggest putting some space between the link to the author's page and the tags.
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                     alll in all i like where this is headed but please bring back the old way of having the info, having it listed on the right side was way better imho, or make it so that people can switch between the layouts. Or just take the layout from the old version where it's all listed on the top and the games are below that.
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                     being able to doubleclick the game to edit it is nice, but not being able to mark it as favorite (which i used to mark games i've played it's current content off) is a pain.
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                     cuddlebear likes it as a popup but i really don't tbh. In the end it's a game manager meant to make your life easy and with easy you should have all the available info with a minimal amount of effort, it shouldn't become a game for you to actually play a game
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                     having the title there isn't weird at all, that way you know what the game the info belongs too and local version vs last version, only last version is listed in the game thumbnail, not your local version, so it does make sense both are listed so people can see if their version is the latest. As mentioned above the manager is there to make life easier, not harder and being able to compare your version to the f95zone one without having to head into the updates part of the manager is just a lot easier and faster.
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                     - Your doing great keep up the good work
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                     - the right mouse menu is a pain, please bring back the info on the right side, was faster and easier compared to using right click, not to mention it broke the interaction with the favorite icon for me / make it possible for users to switch between layouts / go retro and bring back the layout from 1.0.37
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                     - keep the current way the tags look
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                     - if you don't want to change the right click way of doing things, then please don't remove the title/version info, playing around with the button placement is ok, but the title/version is actually nice info to have in there.
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                     - in the top part i would suggest moving the "tags" button next to the "filter" one, the empty space there just doesn't make sense to me just for a single button and seeing as it's used to filter out games it would make sense to place it in the same line. (or move it so it's in the same line as the date/previous-next/buttons)
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                     The sidebar already too way too much space to be reasonable at all.
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                     Frankly the client atm has a ton of wasted space it could use for other things or just move things around to not waste it.
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                     Having an option for the sidebar might be good, but its far from effective and it just wastes on the budget of the whole client.
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                     And no, you dont need the version number there or the title as you already have that info in the clear. Zero need to have it multiple times in the same damn view, thats just a waste.
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                     This biggest gripe with this client is the UI outside of a few small usecase issues.
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                     Yes its a game manager and yes it should be easy to use. But frankly if you think a bloody right click is too much of a hassle then you need to take a deep look at how awkward most of this stuff is to begin with.
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                     Page navigation on the top makes sense, but everything with the searching is centered when it could be pushed to the left by the navigation bar.
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                     That will give you around 15% of the screen to use for other stuff.
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                     Stuff are deff making progress for sure and its 10x better than what it was last month in terms of performance and useability.
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                     But everyone is sadly going to have their own prefs so UI options might be needed in the end.
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                     I noticed some games are not showing in the Updates screen when the game is owned and has a new version. The ones I caught are Seraphim Academy and A Love Story. I think I narrowed it down to when the new version begins with a "Ch?", where the ? is a character other than a letter (so "Ch. 2" or "Ch2" will not show up, but Chapter 2 will).
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                        I noticed some games are not showing in the Updates screen when the game is owned and has a new version. The ones I caught are Seraphim Academy and A Love Story. I think I narrowed it down to when the new version begins with a "Ch?", where the ? is a character other than a letter (so "Ch. 2" or "Ch2" will not show up, but Chapter 2 will).
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                        The sidebar already too way too much space to be reasonable at all.
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                        what resolution do you have?
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                        because i have a feeling that your resolution is a lot higher than most people use overall.
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                        having such a high resolution as yours is going to give a lot of emtpy spaces no matter what and having a dev focus on higher resolution than most of the people tend to use will make it look good for you but mess it up for the others.
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                        i'm using a 1920x1080 resolution (which is amongst one of the mostly used screen resolutions in 2018 according to statcounter) higher resolutions aren't mentioned but being put together with everything above 1920x1080 and below 1024x768
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                        With sidebar looks a lot better and cleaner on my screen.
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                        when the sidebar is removed it's looking like this:
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                        see the empty space on the right side and below i have to deal with then? Also where you mention version info being mentiond properly, the only version info mentioned in the thumbnail is the "latest version" that is available. No mention of your local version, that info only becomes available to you in the rightclick/right tab window.
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                        Also when make the screen from the game manager smaller i get display issues with it as well:
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                        true, the interactions with the popups are not the way they need to be, as you mentioned they tend to stay on top of everythign else, also i've noticed the rightclick sometimes doesn't close as it should, and i've noticed that doubleclicking a game has the tendency to open the window from another game. But seeing as the dev did add that feature in no time at all, there's bound to be some stuff to work out before it fully works as intended.
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                        Having a lack of a checkbox to mark current content complete i've used the favorite icon to mark my games that way but that also no longer works since he added the right click feature, but that's the way it is since the change of interaction with the thumbnail was implemented.
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                        I also agree with that there's a bit too much unused space in the game manager, but the one thing we both have to keep in mind is that there's a lot of people that are using a lower resolution than we do.
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                        @tid please focus on making what's currently in the manager work as intended before changing/adding anything new interface related (unless that's needed to bugfix something ofcourse.) I think it's amazing that you work your ass off for us to make changes that we request, but (and i hope @CuddleBear can agree with me on this
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                        ) a bugfree version is prefered over a buggy version that looks good.
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                        I think the posts we both make regarding the looks here are more of suggestions than something that has to be done right away, i think it's awesome you added the right click so fast, and just as fast implemented the right tab, but it wasn't something that you needed to do directly, we could've waited on it easily. The primary stuff is in the game manager (and apart from some things it mostly works as intended).  Quickly adding something to please people is what makes you a great developer, but do it too quick and it might end up in more work then needed due to functions/features that only work half.
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                        a small issue i've seen however is with the side-tab, when you open it some of the games should be moved to the next page, instead they are going off-screen and you get a scrollbar.
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                        Some suggestions though:
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                        1) make the looks of the buttons universal throughout the program, use the same style buttons in both the right click as the right tab window.
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                        2) Seeing the change in interaction with the thumbnails, consider adding the "mark favorite" to the rightclick and right tab windows.
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                        3) the way it looks in a lower resolution isn't really good with the stuff in the top area disappearing behind the left menu, either the bottom line is coded differently preventing it from doing that, or there's too much happening in the top line. Try moving the checkboxes to the second line and combine them with the "tags" button.
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                        somewhat like:
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                        Name - author - filter -big ass X
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                        4) As @CuddleBear also mentioned, the spacing on the thumbnails, i don't really mind the spacing itself, it makes the games stand out from one another, and the placement of the icons isn't bad either, that also makes them look like they are seperate from the image, i do believe however that the borders in the table are adding to the feeling that it's too much spacing, maybe remove the borders and make the spacing 1 or 2 pixes smaller on the left and right side.
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                        I think also the border on the right side of the menu and the top portion having different colors might add to this feeling, there's too much distinction between the seperate parts of the interface.
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                        5)  Maybe add a scaling feature for the thumbnails to the options in the future so we can use it so the thumbnails fit our screens better regardless of resolution used.
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                        6) Might be an idea to move the option to use the right tab to the preferences, users like cuddlebear who don't like it, don't have the button on screen that way, and users who do like it (like me) can toggle it on.
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                        7) maybe make the menu look smaller, and not have it extend all the way down by default. making the games kind of bend around it?
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                        i still think you where on to something with the layout of the old game manager though:
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                     On lower resolutions, it's true that the sidebar takes too much space.
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                     Here are some samples :
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                     the minimum resolution is 800x600 in this resolution you can only see 2 games with the sidebar. But you can select own many games will be displayed if they don't fit in the screen a scrollbar will be displayed.
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                     On big screens there is a lot of wasted space, I should work on that :
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                      Lost space
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                      These spaces can be occupied: if there is a lot of tags, thumbs are only displayed if they can fit entirely in the window that's why you can have a blank space on the side or the bottom of the display.
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                      I'll try to work on this later.
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                     Developments planned (in no particular order):
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                     haven't found it in the new version, seems the "scan" option from version 1.0.37 hasn't been implemented (yet) as far as i can find, so unfortunately you need to go through the tedious work of adding all games manually.
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                     don't know how many games you have, but i had around 200 and made a mistake last week and had to add everything from scratch, went faster as i thought it would be to be honest.
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                     In the end i have to edit every single game i add anyway to enter my local version, and a lot of games share similar names so for example looking for the word sister and i had 4 or 5 games i could add, harem similar story.
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                     it's true that i miss the whole scan folder thing but once you actually have your database filled with all the games then adding 1 game through the scan option or through the browse f95zone + edit option seem to take up around the same amount of time.
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                        haven't found it in the new version, seems the "scan" option from version 1.0.37 hasn't been implemented (yet) as far as i can find, so unfortunately you need to go through the tedious work of adding all games manually.
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                        don't know how many games you have, but i had around 200 and made a mistake last week and had to add everything from scratch, went faster as i thought it would be to be honest.
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                        In the end i have to edit every single game i add anyway to enter my local version, and a lot of games share similar names so for example looking for the word sister and i had 4 or 5 games i could add, harem similar story.
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                        it's true that i miss the whole scan folder thing but once you actually have your database filled with all the games then adding 1 game through the scan option or through the browse f95zone + edit option seem to take up around the same amount of time.
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                     Thanks for clearing that up, was going through everywhere and couldn't find anything. I'll have to manually put everything then.
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                     well, tbh, it's only usefull if you need to fill your database after doing a complete fresh install, no more need to search for most games manually, but in the end you still need to edit the game info so it might save a few minutes.
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                     i did like the scanner for that as it was able to identify most of the games, but in order to actually identify every single one the game folder had to be named exactly the same as the game in the database, so for example "Taffy Tales" wasn't recognised due to the game still being mentioned in the database as "Family Tales". Same for a lot of games that got a name change or will get a namechange in the future.
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                     If you ask me it's not a big enough time saver to add that feature back in if your not satisfied with how it works (yet)
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                     once your at a point where you download 1 game, add it to your game folder it's just as fast to open up te game info from f95zone through the browse function &gt;put in local version+browse to exe compared to click the scan&gt;add&gt;open up game info to change local version info, maybe even faster if depending on how fast and if the scanner can identify the game connected to the executable.
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                     There is a few ways the client could do this. either by scanning the path pointed to as it did in the past.
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                     that just needed to blacklist already linked paths (to the exe specifically)
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                     The scanning feature did list the paths with other options of searchable hits even if it was already tied, making the whole list messy and unsorted and close to an unusable state.
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                     Or you can allow for with drag &amp; drop of the folder or the exe (or point to it) and it will take everything in the root folder of the exe.
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                     All of these options should allow it to move the folder in question found, so the root folder that the exe is hosted and everything under it to its own game install folder where it might rename its folders with its needed rules.
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                     For making it simple, these saved folders can use the id of the F95 thread number as the main game's folder, followed by a folder of the version number where the game will be placed.
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                     This will allow for it all to be sorted correctly in each folder with individual versions on top of that.
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                     While some like me might use the thread name or most of the thread name as the game folder.
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                     This isn't the case for most, it needs to handle that but i guess it will be hard.
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                     Doing an add game option or drag and drop into the client should ask the user about which game it is. it could try to search for the words (you can just regex the words in the folder itself to make sure) then ask the user to confirm.
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                     This will extract the game into the name of the file of the zip/rar.
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                     You can quickly change these as you do add them to JDownloader in the first place.
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                     Then just set to extract on the package when completed and it should be ready for you in the correct name 100% of the time.
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                     Other Notes, the Client could watch the download folder or a set games download folder for thread names too.
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                     Heck, you could technically pull the download urls and even pick the names of the files yourself if you made download files for the downloaders like Jdownloader.
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                     That would pretty much automate the whole naming process of it all in theory.
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                     In any case, if you do matching of folder paths, it needs to be pretty correct and tested across many many titles.
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                     User confirmations is always a good way to deal with it if you can't nail it down correct. taking 2-3 sec to confirm it is better than it being wrong.
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                     Looking at the new install feature. this looks really good! source and destination folder with user set folder names. need to test this thing out! this will make it a bit easier for sure. with no need to move folders to the install folder and then having to point to it.
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                     EDIT: It seems like it doesn't accept .exe files at all at this point.
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                     Not folders either I'm guessing it is made to be used with either Zip or RAR archives.
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                     Unzipping and installing .zip, .rar, .7z, .tar for example and placing it in the install folder. from the exe (or any other normal application extension) and down, this should remove wasteful folders that are above the exe.
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                     If it's not a zip, either an exe, swf, html or folder then it should use the root of the exe folder and copy the contents of that folder to the install location.
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                     (some of us like to auto extract from the downloader so it requires less waiting)
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                     The system you started on seems really great atm, it allows for subfolders of the versions itself as well as creators too. (author might not be the best term, creator is more broad for individual creators of all kinds and studios alike.)
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                     Once the system is refined to handle folders and applications it will be more useful.
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                     In my testing, it failed on all counts seemingly.
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                     The only thing left of concern would be renpy save handling, copying from an old version to new on an update install.
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                        EDIT: It seems like it doesn't accept .exe files at all at this point.
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                        Not folders either I'm guessing it is made to be used with either Zip or RAR archives.
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                     That's how it works, the root directory is the first direct in witch a file is found.
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                        If it's not a zip, either an exe, swf, html or folder then it should use the root of the exe folder and copy the contents of that folder to the install location.
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                     That's the next thing I will work on.
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                        The system you started on seems really great atm, it allows for subfolders of the versions itself as well as creators too. (author might not be the best term, creator is more broad for individual creators of all kinds and studios alike.)
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                        Once the system is refined to handle folders and applications it will be more useful.
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                        In my testing, it failed on all counts seemingly.
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                        The only thing left of concern would be renpy save handling, copying from an old version to new on an update install.
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                        That and a quick open install path button, cause that's always useful and quick to add.
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                     Saves and things like that will be the last things I work on. With the option to save old version it will create a zip file in the game's folder, so it is safe to extract them always At he same place. Like this you won't loose your saves and for html it is the only way of keeping your saves if they use cookies.
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