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                     The idea behind it is to provide a flexible platform and collaborate with artists to get their VN's out pretty much as close to as how they want them, within reason, without them having to do any development work. The idea is to be able to push out content as fast as you provide artistic content &amp; story without much hassle of integrating it.
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                        I'm not sure if its already included in your plans but what about a time tracker?
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                     Yes of course! And skipping time and all that jazz too. Basically, is there anything that isnt out there that people are missing from these types of games? As i understand it a lot of people are trying to make their own vn's from scratch because they do feel like something is missing from what's out there today.
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                     Could definitely make the clock customization as well to some extent. Like , alarm-tones, fonts, am/pm or 24hour. etc
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                     My question would be, what are you going to do with your engine, or what is it going to offer that differentiates itself from Fungus, keeping in mind if you're planning on selling this, that Fungus is free.
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                     Right now Ren'py is the most versatile because it's all code. So while it's versatile and can do basically anything you would want in the genre it requires a lot of knowledge. Tyranobuilder is on the opposite end, but it's buggy as hell, and unusable in it's current state outside of making a very basic linear story where you don't fuck with it's gui or anything beyond it's drag and drop nature, because the software is just buggy. Fungus is nice, but variables still require coding knowledge, it lacks certain tools like video, requiring you to meld Unity features with it, which requires knowledge of that system and so if you want to do anything with it that is outside the confines of the plug in you're sort of back at square one.
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                     Ultimately when I decided on Ren'py it wasn't because I wanted to use it sho much as I didn't want to paint myself into a corner. Both Fungus and Tyranobuilder which toute themselves as simple to use GUI focused VN makers are ultimately no more simple to use than the basic Ren'py script so long as you're fine with it's GUI, writing a linear story doesn't require much or any knowledge of code in ren'py. While I could see a game made in Fungus working , if I changed my mind and wanted to add one little thing to it, that went beyond it's capability, I was screwed.
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                     A built in trainer system, a built in stats system that works together with jumps and branches that just requires entering in +1 for doing this -1 for doing this and so forth, because I think what people are looking for is a way to deal with the code, that they can just drop their story and art into.
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                     So I didn't have a plan on selling it as a product and then just unleash the krakken upon way too many people that I wouldn't be able to support it. I want to offer a quality VN engine to cater for some few exclusive projects, and work more in the terms of a partnership than just offering a product and then let artists use it in that sense. So you could just see it as getting your game development done through my service. At least that's the initial idea, that I would provide the development part of the VN making and meet your expectations of quality, stability and features. And to be able to add new features without breaking everything else.
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                     You can clearly see this as well in the way that many games don't let you load up old version saves. Because they fundamentally restructure the save component and don't bother converting it to the new format, causing a player frustration from losing all their progress. This is quite frustrating when some content creators just launch out minimal content and force you to play through everything again. Obviously some more linear games offer you to skip straight to the new content, however this is not exactly easy with branching stories.
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                     I have been working on coding projects for long enough in my life, both professionally and as a hobby, working with a wide range of people with different skill levels and skill sets. I feel like a lot of artists aren't sure what they are getting themselves into when they want to realize their projects, even so novice/junior developers. A lot of people try to patch together free assets from left and right, in unity i have seen people just throw in random free assets. As you mentioned, if you want to modify anything, either you have to dig so deep it's not worth the hassle, or it will break everything.
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                     I want to make a modular system were the components can be loaded into your project depending on your needs in that specific project. Each module will be independent in the way that it wouldn't break other modules but at the same time they'd be seamlessly working together to add functionality without the cost of stability on short notice.
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                     Personally I want to put the focus on functionality, stability and quality, remove any frustrations of introducing game breaking bugs or the code to get out of hand and overwhelming. I want to deliver modules in a more agile fashion and allow for the product to just get better and better with time.
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                     Also, in regards to story board. I will eventually look at either ways of exporting and importing from other story/branch tools, or make my own that will output to the format that the engine supports.
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                        But it`s kind of yet another of VN*drag`n`drop development framework, will fail where all others VN*drag`n`drop fail, easy to start making something, limited by default.
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                     Thanks for your input, I can refer you to my latest reply to above comment that might give you a bit of clarity on my idea. I don't question the excellence of renpy, but its also utilized by so many without knowing what they get themselves into, and its easy for the project to get out of hand. At least I will also have full knowledge of all the modules to the core, something which people wouldn't usually meddle with in ren'py.
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                        I suspect something you need to front-load in terms of features is making the save/load system fully re-entrant, so you can save/load from anywhere. Since most of these games are done in RenPy, people have the expectation that all games should save like RenPy, where you can stop/save in mid-sentence.
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                        I guess we'll see once your VN engine is complete
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                     Thank you! Looking forward to the first release at some point
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                     As explained before I'm not planning on releasing something to compete against Ren'py in the terms it's doing now. What  I will offer is a service to get your VN out the way you want it, no hassle with ren'py or yourself coding. Honestly from a artist perspective it should be completely irrelevant what platform it's running on, as long as they get all the functionality and the quality they need. Of course it also needs to be flexible and stable, which seems to be something that ren'py projects today lack, but that's not why i made this post in the first place, i wanted to hear from artists what it is they really miss that hasn't been seen today. I was surprised to see so little feedback,.
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                        There is probably a lot of unused potential in Unity, however it does demand more coding experience, and knowledge of C# (I think it's C#?)
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                        I assume this is what Aesuh is planning to fix; make the scaffolding, then work with people who do story-telling / rendering to churn out a large number of VNs using the same basic tech.
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                     Spot on, I'm using C# in Unity. While it has native 3d support I'm using it for 2d right now. I've already worked out some basics of a character, a text parser for dialogues/image changes/state changes also foreground characters even though not many VN's use it (basically most renders just switch out backgrounds only). I'm working out first of all to get up to speed to what features other games have, and then i'll add on some newer unique stuff. I don't see saving and loading as a problem at all however i need to finalize the states and dialogue branching in the best way possible for it to handle rewind, which is a fun task. Including having relationship stats and beeing able to add on any other types of stats that are required.
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                     I'm trying to use quite agile methodology with how i approach this project, focusing on one feature at a time basically and having them as adaptive modules that will work alone or together with other modules without any hassle. Basically a sort of plugin&amp;configure and play solution depending on requirements.
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                     I'll be working together with some artist to get the flagship project out that will provide story and renders. It's going to take some time before i'm there, since I'm not exactly rushing it, and I have a lot of stuff going on IRL. The artist is also having some IRL stuff so not sure when I will be getting the sample renders. Of course I want this to be polished product when it comes out, so quality comes before quantity. Even such a thing as churning out demo's to see what people want is on the table.
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                     Hello! Tell me, is it possible after the game is released on your engine to add the translation to another language? It is known that games on Unity are almost impossible to translate. In this case, the translation of the flagship is interested ..
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                     I already did that from day 1, it's just that for some specific languages you need to use supported fonts, and in that case i just make sure to switch font when there is a different language, it's not hard it just takes time, depending on how much you want to translate. If it's just the text in the dialogue then it's easy.
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                        I already did that from day 1, it's just that for some specific languages you need to use supported fonts, and in that case i just make sure to switch font when there is a different language, it's not hard it just takes time, depending on how much you want to translate. If it's just the text in the dialogue then it's easy.
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                        I don't understand what tools you are referring to, i mean literally all the dialogue is in text files, so you can just translate it directly in there ,but then I as the developer need to add the language option to the game and make sure that that language also changes the font, it's not really more complicated than that
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                     We will be very grateful to you, as few games on Unity have been translated by the authors, and there are fans of games among non-English speakers. Interested in Russian language. If the author does not have the opportunity (or need) to do a multilingual game - you need to give volunteers the opportunity to do this without harm to the author, the game and the engine.
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                        i do not think the VNGine is active anymore friend. I tried to find it to download and test and the main site for it is even gone.
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                     Ehhh
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                     my engine has never been available for download but I have seen a old project of someone’s many years ago with the same name.
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                     Anyways the project is alive and doing well, working together with Motkeyz on timestamps just had 4th release on my engine
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                        Well, seeing Timestamps it is still active, I asumed the VNGINE it's still alive and I'm happy to hear you guys are still working on it for plebs like me XD...
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                     It was never the intent for the engine to be available to public in that sense, I will add some modding capabilities down the line, is the plan. The engine will just be exclusive for work together with artists where I do the development
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                     You know how some artists have their style and make games, i want to be the same for the technical point, i want the games eventually also to be recognized to be good because my brand is on it
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                        Exactly. Unpack files Unity is no longer a problem, but editing (font, translation) in 90% leads to crash games.
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                        Remapping Keybindings would be amazing. Using space in Timestamps to progress text on my keyboard is heinously loud. I suspect there might be IP concerns if you made the controls mirror Ren'Py (in which case, nothing to be done), but honestly, trying to redefine what has become "industry" standard (and works) might not be the best idea. Whether this is Timestamps' specific or VNgine as a whole, IDK - but I'd much prefer Ren'Py controls. Maybe break keybindings out from the UI (if it is too much hassle), and create something like an .ini file that folks can edit if they are savvy?
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                        A feature I think Im going to love is being able to progress text without seeing it while it is hidden. It lets scenes play out with the models without always having to hide the text.
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                     You can use E, Space, numpad enter, scroll up or leftclick to navigate the dialogue forward, (Q, numpad del, scroll down, rightclick to go backwards)  so there are quite a lot of alternatives
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                     Also there is shift to skip fast and an auto mode to toggle in the bottom right corner. There were some bug in chapter 1 with home map key and the map key overriding in a sense blocking the esc menu, i think if you hit n you will be able to open the quick menu. It should work.
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                     I might look into adjustable keybindings in the future, but there are plenty of alternatives.
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