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                     ...in the beginning yes...but quiet the opposite if you delve into territory the engine wasn't designed for which is kinda inevitable if you want to create something unique...not counting the extra work  needed to avoid...
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                     ...re-use of vanilla assets and your game basically looking like the next...overall one invests the same amount of time and energy regardless of the base used in order to create a game worth playing so if you like RPGM more...go for it...if you think Ren'py suits your project better...go for it...in the end a game is only as good as the blood sweat and tears invested in it's creation and the engine has very little to do with that at all.
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                        I've seen Visual Novel Maker from the makers of RPGM, does anyone have any experience with it? It looks to have the same sort of easy drag and drop interface like RPGM but what is it like features wise? Can you do town maps in it?
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                     while there are good reasons why people choose or don't choose rpgm. everyone doesn't hate it. in fact it is quite popular. in my opinion porn games is what keep rpgm alive and kicking as a product. now if you just wanna have a fap fest then yeah you gonna stay away from rpgm games. but if you have a porn game but you also want to make it a good quality and somewhat interesting and compelling game (in my opinion roundscape is one of those types of games) then you are not going to use a visual novel style like renpy because for the simple fact... they are not games. like yes i know they are classified as games but really they are not. they are a book that has choices now you do have ones like summertime sage, or dreaming of dana, which push this engine more closer into proper game territory, your standard choice vn is just a book with options that can affect the story. like those books that you make a choice for the character and it tells you a page to go to. so if you just want to make a interactive gamelike porn game then yeah do a vn, but if you want to do an actual porn game then you either make a game engine (which i doubt anyone would actually do) or you use available game types, which technically includes VNs but it is easier just to say they are exactly that visual novels, that being said the vn engine renp'y can be used to makes games (examples already listed) however if you want to have more than just clicking gameplay you are not going to choose Renp'y as it doesn't do the greatest with being immersive when its a point and click. like to be honest you will find classic reading VN format more immersive than the game style VN as the constant clicking and looking at time etc. while it tries to pull you in more often than not will push you out. thats why rpgm is actually quite popular because if you have a good one you can waste hours playing it and being involved with the world that is set up for you. however some games are just better as a VN than rpgm and vice versa, e.g. pretty much all of icstor's games would be better in renp'y Milf City is proof of that, as these games do not rely on rpg elements, the combat system is practically useless and when used in these types of games set in the modern world don't make much sense, like really you gonan kill a rat and it drops a gun? (that is more a loot balancing issue but you get the idea of how it just doesn't fit in) like imagine how much better icadventures new game would be if they had also moved to renp'y. anyway that is my shitty essay on why rpgm isn't hated its just over saturated with bad games because of lazy creators who don't realise how stupid it is to use this engine for their game. I personally was getting sick of rpgm.... then i sunk more than 10 hours in 2 days into roundscape and I ain't complaining, so basically in my OPINION the idea that rpgm is hated as a product is just a misdirect of the hate towards shitty rpgm games that should have just used any other engine out there.
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                     as a mere player, I do not hate them.
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                     They usually (all?) come with native gamepad support, a big plus. and somehow the tiny/ "chibi" on-map characters and things help me immerse into the game ("kawaii!")
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                     Problems I encountered imo. were not because of engine : I can not see how eg. poor balance in battles (way too easy/ way too "hard"/ boring/ etc.) should be an inherent problem of the engine.
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                     main problem with me is I can not avoid going play-to-win state of mind, so having to lose to get sex scene ... I miss most sex scenes then.
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                     Two reasons I am not inclined to using RPGM is that MV runs like complete trash on my computer and ren'py is always faster. Also, encryption of RPG media files, which is becoming a trend thanks to devs not wanting their assets to be readily accessible makes it fucking annoying to play. For visual novels there just isn't a point because the "gameplay" element of RPGM is either underutilized or shoehorned in to make a grindy fucking mess of a game where every 2 minutes I have to fight some fucking asshole monster just to get to the next area.
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                        A good RPGM, in theory, would include some actual content for all the NPCs and locations in the map, and has a less linear story where you can go different paths throughout the map to access different content based on your own desires. Another important thing about RPGM is shit like walking speed, where I find that too many of them are limiting you to a snails pace to go back and forth between locations you've been a hundred times. Fortunately, if the game is RPGM MV you can use the cheat menu to by pass that.
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                     Oh boy, I do see repetitive things here regarding rpgmaker, so let me say few words after working with it (mostly mv). And I have more than few words to drop as I feel that annoyance getting squeezed out of my stomach, just like that one more beer I couldn't handle and let it out the way it came.
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                      Pretty much solved, there are still issues left, but to get most of those you need: a dev who isn't aware of the problems and designs maps/game without giving it a second thought and/or a player who tries to just break the game (just start opening/closing menu as fast as you can). Sure, MV had a rough start, but after updates a lot has been fixed. Problem lies with devs themselves, because it sure does feel like someone is not fucking reading changelogs for engine they are using. And oh boy, I see a lot of MV projects that don't have their RPGMaker updated, because devs just ignore it - don't know the reason, don't fucking care, if you aren't interested in those changelogs/updates as a dev then you are the issue.​
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                      So is every other language and none at all. All languages have their cons and pros, I personally think that java (other than similar name - not related to JS) is crap choice for games when you can use C#. But in the end, it falls under dev's knowledge and preference. There is some discussion regarding coding language, sure, but you can find it everywhere, not only in game making field. But if a programmer is shit - code will be shit, only after that comes the issue related to cons of language itself.
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                      Sure, sure, RPGMaker is designed so anyone can start making their own game, even a total newbie. As good as it may be, if you are a dev and refusing to learn and improve while clinging to that, you are a shitty dev in my view. Don't even start with "it's a hobby" argument because it's also shit argument - people like to learn about their hobbies, because they care. At one point you have to improve so you can address issues related to bad design/choice or engine itself.
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                     ► It's designed for only one type of a game
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                      So? Just because a tool is designed for one thing, clever person may figure out a way to use it for something else. It may not be superior to other tools, but may be cheaper if someone lacks budget to get other tools. But it still falls under how much you know about that tool, mostly its limitations.​
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                      Oh yeah, those "mods" that can give new functions or address some issues are a bliss for a lot of RPGMaker devs. But, heh, at the same time can be a huge issue. There are many fancy things and people want to make their game "cool, yo!". At one point it can bite you back and turn your game into laggy, crashing pile of crap. But that's also a part of learning... So if it has been a year or two and it's still an issue... You failed as a dev, you failed to realize your obvious mistake. Why? Because you didn't bother to gain more knowledge about your tools. You are that clueless person who doesn't read instructions and then losses his hand to some heavy machinery.
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                      It's more than true that a lot of RPGMaker games look the same, people use default assets that they got. While I agree that devs should be trying to address this, it may require going into extra fields (drawing/pixelart) or having money to get more. But I can tell you this: If, for example, ren'py (or any other engine) had same boundle of starting assets with it (like few characters, backgrounds, sound effects, etc), you would see a lot of games looking similar...
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                        Oh boy, I do see repetitive things here regarding rpgmaker, so let me say few words after working with it (mostly mv). And I have more than few words to drop as I feel that annoyance getting squeezed out of my stomach, just like that one more beer I couldn't handle and let it out the way it came.
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                        ► Memory leaks and issues with MV itself
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                         Pretty much solved, there are still issues left, but to get most of those you need: a dev who isn't aware of the problems and designs maps/game without giving it a second thought and/or a player who tries to just break the game (just start opening/closing menu as fast as you can). Sure, MV had a rough start, but after updates a lot has been fixed. Problem lies with devs themselves, because it sure does feel like someone is not fucking reading changelogs for engine they are using. And oh boy, I see a lot of MV projects that don't have their RPGMaker updated, because devs just ignore it - don't know the reason, don't fucking care, if you aren't interested in those changelogs/updates as a dev then you are the issue.​
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                         So is every other language and none at all. All languages have their cons and pros, I personally think that java (other than similar name - not related to JS) is crap choice for games when you can use C#. But in the end, it falls under dev's knowledge and preference. There is some discussion regarding coding language, sure, but you can find it everywhere, not only in game making field. But if a programmer is shit - code will be shit, only after that comes the issue related to cons of language itself.
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                        ► Dev has no idea what he/she is doing
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                         Sure, sure, RPGMaker is designed so anyone can start making their own game, even a total newbie. As good as it may be, if you are a dev and refusing to learn and improve while clinging to that, you are a shitty dev in my view. Don't even start with "it's a hobby" argument because it's also shit argument - people like to learn about their hobbies, because they care. At one point you have to improve so you can address issues related to bad design/choice or engine itself.
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                        ► It's designed for only one type of a game
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                         So? Just because a tool is designed for one thing, clever person may figure out a way to use it for something else. It may not be superior to other tools, but may be cheaper if someone lacks budget to get other tools. But it still falls under how much you know about that tool, mostly its limitations.​
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                         Oh yeah, those "mods" that can give new functions or address some issues are a bliss for a lot of RPGMaker devs. But, heh, at the same time can be a huge issue. There are many fancy things and people want to make their game "cool, yo!". At one point it can bite you back and turn your game into laggy, crashing pile of crap. But that's also a part of learning... So if it has been a year or two and it's still an issue... You failed as a dev, you failed to realize your obvious mistake. Why? Because you didn't bother to gain more knowledge about your tools. You are that clueless person who doesn't read instructions and then losses his hand to some heavy machinery.
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                         It's more than true that a lot of RPGMaker games look the same, people use default assets that they got. While I agree that devs should be trying to address this, it may require going into extra fields (drawing/pixelart) or having money to get more. But I can tell you this: If, for example, ren'py (or any other engine) had same boundle of starting assets with it (like few characters, backgrounds, sound effects, etc), you would see a lot of games looking similar...
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                        It should be pretty obvious at this point that I am directing a lot of problems at the devs and not RPGMaker itself. But that's because many issues with this engine were fixed and those that weren't, can be avoided to a degree. Problem with simple-to-use engines (and a lot of things that have this term slapped on) is that devs often don't bother learning about their tools. Sure, project itself may move on and get more content, but at the same time, it can stagnate from more technical point of view. It's not that uncommon to see a newbie that just started, he/she should improve over time, but if I don't see it while same issues are repeated over and over and/or not solved - then boy, oh boy, someone simply doesn't give a fuck.
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                        This pretty much concludes my little rant on the topic. Sure, I may not puked on every issue there is, but tried my best to cover most common ones I see.
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                     Also yeah a lot of games I find like, the adult games mostly, I feel I see a lot of the maps are exactly the same in most of them, they've used the default graphics and thrown them into huge hard to navigate maps and it's like a lot think because it's a porn game people won't care about how the map looks. If I do make maps rather than just VN screens, I plan to make the maps neater and smaller and definitely won't be using the default resources to do it.
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                        A lot of people seem to not like javascript, I never upgraded to MV and still use VX Ace so it uses Ruby still with a lot of user made scripts already available for it, never tested its VN capabilities myself that much so far but apparently people have so idk I guess it's doable, I know RPG Maker can be used for more than one type of game as you get all the survival horror games with it (one thing I'm also working on and will probably add more to after I've made some progress with this adult game).
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                     Personally I would say it's meh. C# would be much better for all of that and as a side note, I am glad unity does have scripting in C#. But developers behind RPG Maker are Japanese, so I bet there is a good explanation why it's JS in same way previously it was Ruby. More I go this way and I start shitting how mediocre at best is programming sector in there
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                        Also yeah a lot of games I find like, the adult games mostly, I feel I see a lot of the maps are exactly the same in most of them, they've used the default graphics and thrown them into huge hard to navigate maps and it's like a lot think because it's a porn game people won't care about how the map looks. If I do make maps rather than just VN screens, I plan to make the maps neater and smaller and definitely won't be using the default resources to do it.
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                     There are actually good reasons for bad map designs and both are shitty:
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                     Second would be either dev not giving a damn/lacking skill or letting his creativity take over sensible map design. At least this one can be easily addressed: Stop playing parts of your game you want to check and play it as a whole, if something seems annoying - I betcha it probably is - fix it. And don't you dare using some methods to skip grindy parts, you made it, if it feels like a torture then why the fuck are you forcing people through it?
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                     I sometimes want to force all MMO devs to go through their games from zero to level cap
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                     On the assets issue once again, sometimes a little bit of creativity can already change stuff. Maybe recolor this or that, or if you are using day/night system, go through assets and change inside windows from that white to black. Mix some assets into one pile, find step-by-step guide on how to make some simple graphical effects and apply to tilesets. Wait for sale to get more stuff cheaper and such.
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                     Reminds me how lucky I was that I had a bundle for VX Ace with DLCs that had a lot of Background Music in it, so I just used it to not be limited to basic stuff that was in MV. Shame that tilesets are different size, but I still somehow used haybale from VX Ace in MV XD
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                        Just curious why people don't like it. I've always found it the easier engine to use as it's more visual than renpy and an easier learning curve with a lot of features already built in.
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                     Most of the time it comes down to game play style... Role Playing Game Maker (RPGM) was originally intended to make old Nintendo style role playing games with lots of questing and adventure... But when it comes to Erotic/Adult Visual Novels/Games, people want to either get busy with the erotica with minimal effort, or they want a good story to follow, leading up to erotica, without all that running around and questing non-sense...
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                     Sure, an RPG adventure game made with RPGM can have plenty of story, but it's typically (not always) presented in a top down, moving all around, sometimes quest focused, adventure game play style... Where as Ren'py and Unity and some of the other engines are designed to be more attuned to Book and/or Movie style story telling and presentation... Which works better for Visual Novels and/or story focused games... Again, it comes down to the author's and what they decide to do...
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                     Me personally, I'm not a big fan of RPGM games, mostly because I want to immerse myself in a story most of the time, and not waste my day running around a map completing quests before seeing some story and/or visuals... If I wanted to play quest based games I'ld go play a MMORPG, which I just so happen to do now and then...
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                        Most RPGM games look like ass and run like shit. The engine is also notorious for having memory leaks. Bugs in Ren'py games are easier to user fix than RPGM ones.
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                     this is a dev issue not an rpgm issue. you have these noobs devs who have this idea that rpgm is an easy tool to use when it is actually probably more complicated to make a game that is good and works well with than renp'y especially since a lot of the rpgm games are visual novels and not an actual rpg style game.
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                        Because you have to waste so much time running around. Sometimes they don't even add a "fast walk" feature. And the combat is soooooooooooooooooo slow... There should be at least an "auto combat" for easy enemies.
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                     .... don't blame the engine blame the dev. also devs can add a auto combat feature (roundscape had one, but i sold the item cause i wanted gold). so remember don't hate the engine hate the shitty devs who think rpgm is a good engine to make a visual novel on :|
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                     Your answers to 4 comments are "it's the dev, not the engine". I would submit that if the engine makes it easy for the dev to make a bad game, then the engine is probably not the best tool for the job. And really, as the player, I don't care if it's the dev's fault that the game leaks memory like a sieve and I have to save every quest because I know it's going to crash soon.
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                     The Steam page for RPGMaker MV says "POWERFUL enough for a developer SIMPLE enough for a child VERSATILE enough for any platform!" They advertise it as "simple", but you say "you have these noobs devs who have this idea that rpgm is an easy tool to use".
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                     RPGM is fine for making a certain type of RPG (old-school Final Fantasy). It can be fine for a Visual Novel (See Black&amp;White Photoshoot), but usually you have a dev trying to make a VN, and instead makes a bad RPG with lots of running around and fetch quests.
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                        Your answers to 4 comments are "it's the dev, not the engine". I would submit that if the engine makes it easy for the dev to make a bad game, then the engine is probably not the best tool for the job. And really, as the player, I don't care if it's the dev's fault that the game leaks memory like a sieve and I have to save every quest because I know it's going to crash soon.
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                        The Steam page for RPGMaker MV says "POWERFUL enough for a developer SIMPLE enough for a child VERSATILE enough for any platform!" They advertise it as "simple", but you say "you have these noobs devs who have this idea that rpgm is an easy tool to use".
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                        RPGM is fine for making a certain type of RPG (old-school Final Fantasy). It can be fine for a Visual Novel (See Black&amp;White Photoshoot), but usually you have a dev trying to make a VN, and instead makes a bad RPG with lots of running around and fetch quests.
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                     Yeah i realised after 2 replies i should be multi quoting. also i understand your point, however even if an engine is made to be easy to use doesn't mean that the engine is to blame if there are a lot of people that make shitty games using it. i get that rpgm is marketed as easy to use, which it probably is. but that doesn't mean quick to use, a lot of these devs rush things without even testing them or checking if they are any good because they want that dollar. It is a simple fact that if you don't test your game it will be shit because how can you know if it is any fun to play or balanced at all if you haven't even tried to play it. that is the dev attitude i am attacking, this idea that easy means effortless. writing is easy but it can become hard if you do it too long in one go. rpgm is an easy tool to use to make a basic level rpgm game, but if you skip basic steps that are needed in making a game, then it will be bad. like the basic step of "should i actually use rpgm for the game i want to make?" to which for a lot of rpgm games the answer to that would be no. easy and simple don't mean it will be quite and not take much time. super mario maker for example is really easy to use and simple as hell, that doesn't change the fact that out of all the possible level combinations that over 90% of them are total shit and not playable (matpat broke it down pretty well in a game thoery episode) and the same rule applies for rpgm, it has so many possible level layouts and combinations however most of them are shit. an example would be a dungeon that has rocks everywhere and you can't move. there are far more bad combinations then there are good, so to blame the engine for something the dev did is in my opinion a stupid idea cause it opens up to the idea that devs are not shit, the engine is blame it when bad level design is not the fault of the engine at all. also marketing isn't always 100% accurate.
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                     I think it's mostly because RPGM is intended to create actual ... games. With gameplay like fighting monsters, looting treasure, exploring maps, leveling your character. Everything that is good and important in normal games, but annoying grind in porn games. In porn games, the focus in most cases is telling a story that leads from sex scene to sex scene. After all, nobody jerks off to retro RP fights.
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                        There is no game on here (or not that I found) which uses RPG on it's best. If there was game and map in that game, with hidden quest, npc's, items, where you can roam around and discover stuff, lurking freely between quests etc...Ok than. For example, if you ever played Morrowind, that's what I'm talking about. Make world open as that one.
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