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                      Archie parody comics by Rabies (Edited)
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                          Archie wants to join the Chad club. Betty has other plans with the Chad club leader.
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                          Original comic is Chuck as a black person.
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                         Bukakke, Cheating, Threesome, blowjob, gangbang, corruption
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                         Archie parody comics by Rabies (Edited)
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                            Bukakke, Cheating, Threesome, blowjob, gangbang, corruption
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                     BWAAHAHAHA! I remember this shit! I can't remember where I first saw it, but I laughed my ass off at the /fit/ memes and then sent it to some of my black friends. They either thought it was stupid or hilarious, but it started a weird discussion about race-swapping, workout culture, and internet autism. Fun times.
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                        I remember this. Did someone seriously edit this book just to make the main character white? That's kind of messed up.
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                     Looks like a few people might've had a hand in it. /fit/anon is either one person or refers to more than one anonymous poster on /fit/. I think that /co/ stands for comic? ...nope, "Comics and Cartoons." And, of course, the original comic was drawn by "Rabies T. Lagomorph."
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                     I don't mean to soapbox, and this definitely isn't worth arguing over, but in comparison to some of the other stuff I've seen this is tame as hell.
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                        Looks like a few people might've had a hand in it. /fit/anon is either one person or refers to more than one anonymous poster on /fit/. I think that /co/ stands for comic? ...nope, "Comics and Cartoons." And, of course, the original comic was drawn by "Rabies T. Lagomorph."
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                     Thanks for the insight. It struck me as an odd thing to do, repurposing someone else's art/entire comic to change races. I understand if someone makes a new parody of established characters to tell their story similarly to the fan art found on this site, but to use someone else's art and change the skin color and dialogue just felt insincere. But these days anything goes, so it doesn't really matter. I liked the original, the revision was sloppy and unnecessary but at least it reminded me of the existence of the original which I went and found to enjoy again. Anyway, thanks again for the insight, it was appreciated.
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                        Thanks for the insight. It struck me as an odd thing to do, repurposing someone else's art/entire comic to change races. I understand if someone makes a new parody of established characters to tell their story similarly to the fan art found on this site, but to use someone else's art and change the skin color and dialogue just felt insincere. But these days anything goes, so it doesn't really matter. I liked the original, the revision was sloppy and unnecessary but at least it reminded me of the existence of the original which I went and found to enjoy again. Anyway, thanks again for the insight, it was appreciated.
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                     Ahh, never mind.  I found the source.  Not sure how I feel about this, since the whitewashing makes it...  ...less racist?  Not confused any more, just conflicted.  :/
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                        It wouldn't be a problem if there weren't tons of forums full of white and asian dudes who create blacklists of pornstars who've worked with black men, or if the porn industry didn't relegate black pornstars to race-based sites. I think it's naive to suggest that editing a black character out of a genre that doesn't have many of them in the first place (blacks on blondes and black cucking comics do not remotely count) doesn't suggest some level of prejudice.
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                     Something felt off as I was reading your post, so I'm going to try putting it in a syllogism:
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                     Premise A. There are forums full of people who don't like interracial pornography (or black men specifically? Blacklisting means they filter them out of their searches, yes?)
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                     Premise B. The porn industry relegates black pornstars (male and female?) to race-based sites
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                     Conclusion C. Editing a black character out of a mostly-white genre (2d porn comics, or whatever this is a parody of?) implies prejudice
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                     Ah, there's the problem--Premise B doesn't seem relevant. Or all that true; almost all of the sites I've used for porn for the last year have had
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                     Beyond that, I'm not saying that the anon or anons who edited this aren't prejudiced. I don't know. And I don't care. Because my experience on the internet, and with 2D pornography, has been that
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                     I'm not sure what you mean by Blacks on Blondes, unless you're referring to IllustratedInterracial, and holy shit am I glad that's not common, but I'm assuming there isn't more of it because there isn't a greater demand for it. You'd primarily expect black males to be interested in black MCs, right? Because everyone likes a protagonist they can relate to? If you check the demographics of the places and people who produce the majority of the work we see (because I sure as hell haven't) you might find them underrepresented there, in the same way that women aren't represented much in construction, mining, or industrial labor fields. I'm pretty sure the developers and artists who put together a plot, character cast, and a list of scenes are going to start with their own preferences and then accommodate the interests of their backers or audience where they're willing and able to. If there aren't a lot of black protagonists, I think it's more likely to be the result of consumer and producer demographics than deliberate, prejudiced exclusion.
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                     If it hasn't been made completely clear yet, I got tired of hearing about how everything is about race a long time ago. The references and memes in this edit, as well as the fact that
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                        Something felt off as I was reading your post, so I'm going to try putting it in a syllogism:
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                        Premise A. There are forums full of people who don't like interracial pornography (or black men specifically? Blacklisting means they filter them out of their searches, yes?)
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                        Premise B. The porn industry relegates black pornstars (male and female?) to race-based sites
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                        Conclusion C. Editing a black character out of a mostly-white genre (2d porn comics, or whatever this is a parody of?) implies prejudice
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                        Ah, there's the problem--Premise B doesn't seem relevant. Or all that true; almost all of the sites I've used for porn for the last year have had
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                        Beyond that, I'm not saying that the anon or anons who edited this aren't prejudiced. I don't know. And I don't care. Because my experience on the internet, and with 2D pornography, has been that
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                        . If you're just pointing out what you believe to be true, or arguing that we can't rule out the possibility that the edit was racially motivated, I can shrug my shoulders and respect your opinion. Because this is porn, I'm here to jack off, and everyone has problems pretty much everywhere in the world that are bigger than the ratio of black-to-white MCs in cartoon comics for adults.
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                        I'm not sure what you mean by Blacks on Blondes, unless you're referring to IllustratedInterracial, and holy shit am I glad that's not common, but I'm assuming there isn't more of it because there isn't a greater demand for it. You'd primarily expect black males to be interested in black MCs, right? Because everyone likes a protagonist they can relate to? If you check the demographics of the places and people who produce the majority of the work we see (because I sure as hell haven't) you might find them underrepresented there, in the same way that women aren't represented much in construction, mining, or industrial labor fields. I'm pretty sure the developers and artists who put together a plot, character cast, and a list of scenes are going to start with their own preferences and then accommodate the interests of their backers or audience where they're willing and able to. If there aren't a lot of black protagonists, I think it's more likely to be the result of consumer and producer demographics than deliberate, prejudiced exclusion.
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                        If it hasn't been made completely clear yet, I got tired of hearing about how everything is about race a long time ago. The references and memes in this edit, as well as the fact that
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                     That could be the case for this particular work (that it's purely a tongue in cheek exercise), but I've been to plenty of porn forums (on chan sites, or download sites like planetsuzy, phun, vipergirls, etc.) where people explicitly say they don't like when pornstars work with black males, I've read interviews of black male pornstars saying that they could not get work apart from specifically race-based interracial or black-only stuff. And typically they do list the race or ethnicity of the female performer, yes, but for the male performer they don't tend to for White, Hispanic/Latino, or Asian males. Just because you don't want to talk to talk about an issue doesn't mean it isn't real or isn't actually an important issue. And yes, the reason for that distinction in porn is an active dislike among a significant proportion of their White and Asian customer base for black male performers: it's a result of both consumer demographic preferences
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                     And while this piece could be a tongue-in-cheek parody, that doesn't mean there isn't an issue at-large or that there is no racial motivation behind the changing of this particular work. I'm not even an advocate of tokenism, or really care about being able to relate to characters, or any BS like that, but when there is something that actively promotes prejudice, overtly or implicitly, that's an issue.
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                     Also by blacklisted, I mean refuse to watch/purchase any works by female pornstars who've worked with black male pornstars. Also pornsites exist largely as networks nowadays, which are comprised of formerly independent or loosely networked sites that are now centrally accessible on one major site (BRAZZERS, RK, BangBros, Mofos, Team Skeet, etc.) You can still access the sites that form those networks independently to some extent, and some of those sites have very few, if any, black male performers going back to their inception (most of these sites have been around in some form or another since 2002 or so).
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                     I see that you're not really interested in this issue, and honestly I wanted to make a point in response your supposition that porn isn't meant to be taken seriously. Again, I'm not a PC police type of guy or anything--in fact, I hate the hyper political correctness that seems to exist so widely in the US and western Europe these days, but again people will try to hide prejudice in the guise of humor and bullshitting, but there's a difference and it's pretty obvious when you've experienced it firsthand.
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                        That could be the case for this particular work (that it's purely a tongue in cheek exercise), but I've been to plenty of porn forums (on chan sites, or download sites like planetsuzy, phun, vipergirls, etc.) where people explicitly say they don't like when pornstars work with black males, I've read interviews of black male pornstars saying that they could not get work apart from specifically race-based interracial or black-only stuff. And typically they do list the race or ethnicity of the female performer, yes, but for the male performer they don't tend to for White, Hispanic/Latino, or Asian males. Just because you don't want to talk to talk about an issue doesn't mean it isn't real or isn't actually an important issue. And yes, the reason for that distinction in porn is an active dislike among a significant proportion of their White and Asian customer base for black male performers: it's a result of both consumer demographic preferences
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                        And while this piece could be a tongue-in-cheek parody, that doesn't mean there isn't an issue at-large or that there is no racial motivation behind the changing of this particular work. I'm not even an advocate of tokenism, or really care about being able to relate to characters, or any BS like that, but when there is something that actively promotes prejudice, overtly or implicitly, that's an issue.
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                        Also by blacklisted, I mean refuse to watch/purchase any works by female pornstars who've worked with black male pornstars. Also pornsites exist largely as networks nowadays, which are comprised of formerly independent or loosely networked sites that are now centrally accessible on one major site (BRAZZERS, RK, BangBros, Mofos, Team Skeet, etc.) You can still access the sites that form those networks independently to some extent, and some of those sites have very few, if any, black male performers going back to their inception (most of these sites have been around in some form or another since 2002 or so).
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                        I see that you're not really interested in this issue, and honestly I wanted to make a point in response your supposition that porn isn't meant to be taken seriously. Again, I'm not a PC police type of guy or anything--in fact, I hate the hyper political correctness that seems to exist so widely in the US and western Europe these days, but again people will try to hide prejudice in the guise of humor and bullshitting, but there's a difference and it's pretty obvious when you've experienced it firsthand.
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                     Dang. I've gotten a little too used to the chans, so I'm always pleasantly surprised by substantive, well-thought-out rebuttals like this. From the top, then:
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                     EDIT: Yeah, this got long. And still doesn't really matter. But since I've got that compulsive tick where I think some is being wrong on the internet and can't seem to help myself...well, it's there.
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                         Ah, now I get what you're saying. So you're talking about all porn in general, people who exclude "coal-burners" (pretty sure that's the vernacular) from their viewing habits, and you're bringing all this up because you...wanted to make sure we all knew porn and porn-edits could be racially influenced or motivated?
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                         That's considerate, I guess, but you're basically a well-intentioned (as far as I can tell), non-violent (also as far as I can tell), internet-browsing "PC Principal."
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                         You say that you're not advocating tokenism, but the majority of your argument seems to be that:
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                         A. because black male pornstars don't get as much work shooting porn as white, asian, or latino males and
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                         B. that because some people are racist enough to lose interest in female talent (of any race?) after they've slept with black talent that
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                         I'm not upset--I'm literally typing this while helping a friend figure out how to play RPG Maker games on a prehistoric laptop--but that seems like textbook tokenism. To paraphrase, possibly with gross inaccuracy or oversimplification, "We can't have
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                         The reason I initially said that the lack of black men in porn (and now I'll include the existence of blacklists too) didn't matter was because
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                         The blacklisting is racist, sure, but so are the works you unreasonably (since they're common enough that we
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                         Taken straight from dictionary.com, racism is defined as "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others" and also as "hatred or intolerance of another race or another races."
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                         So Catoblepas is right, actually--this particular edit is
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                         than the original. And I have no problem with the original, mostly because I don't take my porn too seriously, but black supremacy is just as racist as any other kind of supremacy.
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                         But that's not the point I'm supposed to be responding to. In particular, you wrote:
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                          "And while this piece could be a tongue-in-cheek parody, that doesn't mean there isn't an issue at-large or that there is no racial motivation behind the changing of this particular work."
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                          "...and honestly I wanted to make a point in response your supposition that porn isn't meant to be taken seriously."
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                          "...but again people will try to hide prejudice in the guise of humor and bullshitting, but there's a difference and it's pretty obvious when you've experienced it firsthand."
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                         Racism is bad, sure, but to reiterate an earlier point:
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                         There is no "issue at large." You don't hate your friend's parents if you don't want to see them get it on, or get it on with anyone else. You don't hate all fat people if you're not into BBM. You don't hate animals if you aren't into bestiality. Shit just turns you off or doesn't turn you on. The blacklisting is racist, but how many of those blacklisters do you think go around giving black men or interracial couples dirty looks and hard times in real life?
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                         You're trying to conflate a matter of personal preferences with a social injustice. Not to mention, the porn industry as a whole is pretty rough. There are interviews you can look up on YouTube where current or former talent describes how badly they were, or other people are treated: one woman was being pressured, strongly, to have unprotected sex with an STD infected male when she'd made it very clear she would refuse to do so. That shit happens all the time, to say nothing of the health risks everyone takes when they do anal, rimming, squirting (they do it artificially), or certain outdoors scenes. So if porn is meant to be taken seriously, we should probably be more concerned with the health, safety, and employment guidelines
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                         What I'm trying to say, yoyomistro, is that if this is the hill you want to stand on...you're absolutely PC policing, you
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                         And I firmly disagree on all counts. With the exception of genres where people in real life are obviously unsafe, actually experiencing significant harm, being coerced or exploited, abused, etc...I don't think anyone has a right to tell anyone else what they're allowed to get off to. But I'm still not going to get upset about it, because you can't really stop anyone from doing what they want in this regard--if you ever wanted to in the first place.
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                     ...and now I feel stupid for typing all that out. Pretty sure svscomics has the original, and e-hentai.org has it too.
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                        Dang. I've gotten a little too used to the chans, so I'm always pleasantly surprised by substantive, well-thought-out rebuttals like this. From the top, then:
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                            Ah, now I get what you're saying. So you're talking about all porn in general, people who exclude "coal-burners" (pretty sure that's the vernacular) from their viewing habits, and you're bringing all this up because you...wanted to make sure we all knew porn and porn-edits could be racially influenced or motivated?
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                            That's considerate, I guess, but you're basically a well-intentioned (as far as I can tell), non-violent (also as far as I can tell), internet-browsing "PC Principal."
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                            You say that you're not advocating tokenism, but the majority of your argument seems to be that:
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                            A. because black male pornstars don't get as much work shooting porn as white, asian, or latino males and
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                            B. that because some people are racist enough to lose interest in female talent (of any race?) after they've slept with black talent that
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                            C. we should be aware of, and either oppose or not consume, works that edit out black males?
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                            I'm not upset--I'm literally typing this while helping a friend figure out how to play RPG Maker games on a prehistoric laptop--but that seems like textbook tokenism. To paraphrase, possibly with gross inaccuracy or oversimplification, "We can't have
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                            black men in porn. In fact, it's racist if you're okay or happy with that happening."
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                            The reason I initially said that the lack of black men in porn (and now I'll include the existence of blacklists too) didn't matter was because
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                            The blacklisting is racist, sure, but so are the works you unreasonably (since they're common enough that we
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                            Taken straight from dictionary.com, racism is defined as "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others" and also as "hatred or intolerance of another race or another races."
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                            So Catoblepas is right, actually--this particular edit is
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                            than the original. And I have no problem with the original, mostly because I don't take my porn too seriously, but black supremacy is just as racist as any other kind of supremacy.
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                            But that's not the point I'm supposed to be responding to. In particular, you wrote:
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                             "And while this piece could be a tongue-in-cheek parody, that doesn't mean there isn't an issue at-large or that there is no racial motivation behind the changing of this particular work."
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                             "...and honestly I wanted to make a point in response your supposition that porn isn't meant to be taken seriously."
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                             "...but again people will try to hide prejudice in the guise of humor and bullshitting, but there's a difference and it's pretty obvious when you've experienced it firsthand."
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                            Racism is bad, sure, but to reiterate an earlier point:
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                            There is no "issue at large." You don't hate your friend's parents if you don't want to see them get it on, or get it on with anyone else. You don't hate all fat people if you're not into BBM. You don't hate animals if you aren't into bestiality. Shit just turns you off or doesn't turn you on. The blacklisting is racist, but how many of those blacklisters do you think go around giving black men or interracial couples dirty looks and hard times in real life?
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                            You're trying to conflate a matter of personal preferences with a social injustice. Not to mention, the porn industry as a whole is pretty rough. There are interviews you can look up on YouTube where current or former talent describes how badly they were, or other people are treated: one woman was being pressured, strongly, to have unprotected sex with an STD infected male when she'd made it very clear she would refuse to do so. That shit happens all the time, to say nothing of the health risks everyone takes when they do anal, rimming, squirting (they do it artificially), or certain outdoors scenes. So if porn is meant to be taken seriously, we should probably be more concerned with the health, safety, and employment guidelines
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                            , as opposed to just black males.
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                            What I'm trying to say, yoyomistro, is that if this is the hill you want to stand on...you're absolutely PC policing, you
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                            And I firmly disagree on all counts. With the exception of genres where people in real life are obviously unsafe, actually experiencing significant harm, being coerced or exploited, abused, etc...I don't think anyone has a right to tell anyone else what they're allowed to get off to. But I'm still not going to get upset about it, because you can't really stop anyone from doing what they want in this regard--if you ever wanted to in the first place.
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                        ...and now I feel stupid for typing all that out. Pretty sure svscomics has the original, and e-hentai.org has it too.
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                        Also, I still don't know how to shorten long posts under a "click to expand" option. It hasn't really been necessary so far, so I never looked into it. My bad.
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                     That wasn't what I was saying at all. I'm not saying that people should consume porn with black males if they don't want to, I thought it was pretty clear that people actively brigade against including black males in porn. Again it's fine if you don't get what I'm saying, like I said I was more responding to your point than trying to convince you of anything. And yea if someone could find the originals, that would be nice.
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                        That wasn't what I was saying at all. I'm not saying that people should consume porn with black males if they don't want to, I thought it was pretty clear that people actively brigade against including black males in porn. Again it's fine if you don't get what I'm saying, like I said I was more responding to your point than trying to convince you of anything. And yea if someone could find the originals, that would be nice.
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                     Not sure if that's the original or not. It feels just a little bit different than I remember...but then, I only read the original once. Regardless of color, I can't suspend my disbelief well enough for 24inch cocks to
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                        Not sure if that's the original or not. It feels just a little bit different than I remember...but then, I only read the original once. Regardless of color, I can't suspend my disbelief well enough for 24inch cocks to
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                     Great, thanks for trying lol. And yea I tend to try to provide counterpoints whenever I see a point I feel is lopsided, lol. It's not like I have a personal vendetta to get more black males into porn at all costs, I just point out potential bias and other issues when I see it, on whichever side of the spectrum. Although being a black male who's into IT and engineering, I do occasionally run into people (especially some Asians) who are kinda dismissive. Don't really let it get to me as I'm not incompetent or anything, but it's kinda funny that people can't help but let their attitudes slip.
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                        Great, thanks for trying lol. And yea I tend to try to provide counterpoints whenever I see a point I feel is lopsided, lol. It's not like I have a personal vendetta to get more black males into porn at all costs, I just point out potential bias and other issues when I see it, on whichever side of the spectrum. Although being a black male who's into IT and engineering, I do occasionally run into people (especially some Asians) who are kinda dismissive. Don't really let it get to me as I'm not incompetent or anything, but it's kinda funny that people can't help but let their attitudes slip.
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                     I can mostly respect that, I think; keeping things from becoming lopsided and acknowledging that there might be--or is--an elephant in the room. A big part of my attitude towards issues like this might stem from the fact that I'm kind of racially ambiguous: people have made all kinds of guesses about what they think I am, are always surprised by the answer, and tend to act like I'm a sheltered or whitewashed version of whatever they are. Which I really don't get, but have learned to live with.
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