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                      You the protagonist, are an 18 year old that is about to finish highschool. You live with your mother, father and a hot sister (Mia).
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                      The game starts 2 days before the end of school. You are behind in schoolwork and need to catch up on studying to pass. Your parents are going on a trip to France for a week. You are studying late at night when your sister comes home drunk.​
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                     : 2024-03-29
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                      Release Date
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                     : 2020-03-29
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                      Developer
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                     : Inceton Games
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                      Patreon
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                      Steam
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                      Censored
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                     : No
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                      Version
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                     : Season 1 - 1.5.2 Steam
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                      OS
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                     : Windows, Linux, Android, Mac
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                      Language
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                     : English, +23
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                         3DCG, Corruption, Male protagonist, Oral sex, Slice of life, Sharing (MMF), Vaginal sex, Virgin, Incest, Voyeurism, Mobile game, Blackmail, Creampie, Netorare, Sandbox.
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                      Installation
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                          v1.5.2
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                         Bugfixes
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                          v1.5.1
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                         Bugfixes
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                          v1.5
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                         We have translated the game to the following languages:
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                           Bulgarian
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                           Czech
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                           Danish
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                           German
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                           Greek
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                           Spanish
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                           Finnish
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                           French
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                           Hungarian
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                           Indonesian
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                           Italian
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                           Japanese
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                           Korean
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                           Norwegian (Bokmål)
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                           Dutch
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                           Polish
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                           Portuguese (Brazilian)
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                           Portuguese (all Portuguese varieties excluding Brazilian Portuguese)
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                           Russian
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                           Swedish
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                           Turkish
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                           Ukrainian
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                           Chinese (simplified)
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                         We have also given the Narrator a voice.
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                         Other updates:
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                         Updated UI
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                         Modernized intro splash art
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                         Other minor tweeks and bug fixes
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                          v1.3
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                         <br/>
                         Gallery Room:
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                         Here you can replay hot scenes that you unlock by playing the game.
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                         Bonus Scenes:
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                         We have added a total of 14 bonus scenes into the game. Some might be locked based on your NTR preferences. The Bonus Scenes Room becomes available once you complete the game.
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                         <br/>
                         Steam Achievements:
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                         You can unlock up to 50 Achievements.
                         <br/>
                         Added a new dropdown menu for all the links
                         <br/>
                         Fixed NTR bug
                         <br/>
                         Other minor fixes
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                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          CONTENT UPDATE
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                         <br/>
                         976 extra renders
                         <br/>
                         7 updated animations
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                         Fixed the bug where the game would show ADS
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                         Added the option to turn off NTR when starting a new game
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                         Added an option to change relationships mid game in the settings
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                         Added more side stories
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                         Added an option to toggle skipping unseen text in the settings
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                         You can now scroll-back a lot further
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                          Final
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                         <br/>
                         Complete rework from RPGM to Renpy
                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          Act1
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                         <br/>
                         Okay, so this is the first part of Living with Mia Ren'Py remake. To avoid confusion, the game will be called Summer with Mia ACT1. A lot of time and effort have gone into this one. All the images have been updated and converted into FullHD and new updated animations have been added. Next up is Act2 of the game, which should be released next month alongside EoL.
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                         900 NEW RENDERS
                         <br/>
                         24 NEW ANIMATIONS
                         <br/>
                         Rewritten huge parts of the text (To make more sense)
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                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v0.2
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         225 NEW RENDERS
                         <br/>
                         Phone password 2580
                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v0.2b
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         188 NEW RENDERS
                         <br/>
                         Emma character update
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                         Option to choose the relationship between in game characters
                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         <b>
                          v0.1
                         </b>
                         <br/>
                         179 RENDERS (91 NEW RENDERS)
                         <br/>
                         Branching story where your choices matter
                         <br/>
                         All renders in full HD
                         <br/>
                         Full Scene renders
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                         Background music
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                        Well this game is on the Ren'py engine and the others were on the RPG Maker engine - so it should  be an improvement!
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                        is it same story from the old one (rpg)???
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                     A little fix for this is attached - extract to your game root folder (where the exe is).
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                        A little fix for this is attached - extract to your game root folder (where the exe is).
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                        in game\screens.rpy file, after line 12 add a new line that sets outline to the font, so that from line 12 to 15 it would look like this:
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                     Thanks mate, didnt know that
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                        Well... Summer with Mia V.0.1 is same with Mis Sister Mia V.0.1 in Ren'py Version or Not?
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                     No it's not. It was originally planned to be a remake, but Inceton decided to make a completely new story for the renpy game.
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                     doesn't look to be different until now, there are some scenes with mom extra but the story so far is basically the same
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                        doesn't look to be different until now, there are some scenes with mom extra but the story so far is basically the same
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                     I must admit that I was referring to an older Patreon post on the 5th of December where he states: "We decided that the MSM Ren'Py edition
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                     There's already at least one big difference in the MC not burning his hands.
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                     I dig the idea of a new story, but I also am sad now we might not get the insane drinking game sex scene in the Renpy version.
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                        Don't want to open the box of pandora but why got the RPG Maker so much hate? If you want to make a game where you can explore a world (and get fucked) RPG maker seems to be one of the easiest and best things to do. I agree, when somebody just want to make a story focused game, or a game where you need to manage your daily life, Ren'py seems better suited. Or am I missing a point here?
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                     Ok when u guys put it like this, i can understand your concerns but i would say this sort of games you mentioned are bad RPGM Games. Best Example My Sister Mia where you follow a stringent plot. But Games like Roundscape Adorevia, Farmers Dreams or other are great as a RPGM Games, or imagine a not really story based, more exploration based game.
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                        Ok when u guys put it like this, i can understand your concerns but i would say this sort of games you mentioned are bad RPGM Games. Best Example My Sister Mia where you follow a stringent plot. But Games like Roundscape Adorevia, Farmers Dreams or other are great as a RPGM Games, or imagine a not really story based, more exploration based game.
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                     I'm not saying RPGM games are all bad, just that they are more likely to be bad. I'd say Coceter Chronicles and to a certain extent, The Humbling Experience are decent RPGM games, the problem is a lot of creators don't take the time to build the necessary world and storyline that is required to make a good RPGM game. Most of them are just boring porn delivery systems with poorly constructed narratives. Unfortunately, some of them, like Elena's Life or Anna Exciting Affection, contain good/great content that would be better served in a different format like Renpy.
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                     i disagree. i think that you should not make "choice matters" rpgm games. it's really hard to replay rpgm games but like farmer's dreams, the game makes you choose paths and if you want to see the other scenes, you have to play it from fucking start and do the same quests from the scratch. it really grinds my gears. best rpgm games imho should be linear but should try to use rpgm's strongest aspect which is strategic fights, and my idea of "successful rpgm" is roundscape adorevia. that game includes different paths but with different quests so it feels like they are different games.
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                     no bestiality yet (and doubt there'll be) and no raping (atleast not in rpgm version, there's/was attempted rape in rpgm version but dog prevented it) and you can can skip bestiality.
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                        no bestiality yet (and doubt there'll be) and no raping (atleast not in rpgm version, there's/was attempted rape in rpgm version but dog prevented it) and you can can skip bestiality.
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                        this version doesn't have much content yet so no incest yet unlike in rpgm version (brother sister, daddy daughter, mom son).
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                     Yeah i play the rpgm version and i really like that version! Because i can avoid bestiality and rape thing. When i play the My sister mia i go like this:
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                     I just wanna mc the son, fucking all the girls/woman. Including is own mother! Incest rulaz :eazyHype:
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                     that's a pretty typical response "I can't get through the gameplay part to get to the porn fast enough, wah wah." Which I've already answered as YOUR problem. Ero-gaming just isn't the thing for you. Ren'py, as far as I've seen based on my gameplay of Ren'py-developed games, is a platform better suited to the level of interactivity of a visual novel, which ISN'T a game, because they usually don't have any gameplay elements. Ren'py games are like two steps above visual novels in terms of game versus not a game. There's more interactivity and the ability to put in actual gameplay such as a battle system or such, but its not a game to me, usually. The level of interactive depth is just too shallow and weak to support it. I'm not saying their bad for being on Ren'py, they're good stories. I think hiding the UI is an overrated feature, to be honest, and in RPGMaker, you can adjust the framing of scene imagery to be completely inside the UI, and most do that. In fact, not once in an RPGmaker game have I even wanted a hide UI button. The skipping text (I can see why specifically in the instance that you're replaying an updated game, but usually I wouldn't want to be able to skip text. Even then, they might have changed the lines you're viewing, especially in early builds) is an issue if you care about it I guess, but that's just because RPGmaker as a system was developed to emulate the feel of early RPGs, such as Final Fantasy 4, and they didn't have text skipping. Battles and puzzles are core to an RPG, so I can see why some devs would feel pressured to use them even if it adds nothing, so I'll pan that, but I do warrant that its something the devs consider before picking the system over Ren'py or similar systems. I'm not going to argue (having not played My Sister Mia) whether a specific game is better on one or the other, but the devs picked the platform because it was the best they could do, or what they wanted to use to relate their story, and they think the pros outweigh the cons, so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and not just pass it up because they picked a certain platform.
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                        I don't know about "useless walking around and fighting." Usually a battle system serves to either make an otherwise unremarkable area interesting to explore (somewhere they wouldn't put NPCs), to level up against (most RPGmaker games utilize enemies as a way to corrupt your character or rank up sex skills), or just to make it look more like an RPG, and in this case the battles will usually be token and easy to beat. As for walking around, I can only think of two games where I got tired of wandering around and just thought "where the fuck do I go now" because I play RPGmaker games for the gameplay, and exploration is a gameplay element. It gives you time to appreciate the effort they put into the nearby region, the layout of the city you're exploring and such. The only time this would suck is when its entirely uninspired and looks extremely placeholder but still has you going all over the place, but that's not a failing of the system that's the devs fault for not making the area interesting enough to explore. Just as I told the other guy, I won't argue about specific games, mostly because I haven't played all of them, nor am I by any means an expert on what makes a good RPG, and what a specific RPG could be failing at.
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                        That's my problem with the latest update to My Sister Mia. I have 1.0b, but to get to the new stuff that just released I have to re-run all of Act 2. Last content I played was the 9a (I think), so there is a lot of new content that I have to see and no way for me to easily to get where I left off.
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                        While I appreciate that they redo the story from the start (other game became a clusterfuck), I think they've overdone it a bit with all the choices. Like they want to compensate for the linearity of My sister Mia. Literally every 3 to 4 lines a new decision to make.
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