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                     The new post rating system is objectively bad. Please reinstate the old system, which was fine.
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                       It's a massive amount of bloat under every post and looks very unprofessional
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                       "Downvoting" someone is the same as continuously posting in a thread about a game you don't like. Just ignore the damn thing.
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                       It's very open to abuse. Don't like someone? Look up all his posts and start clicking!
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                       Legitimate criticism will mostly cease because of fanboys abusing the system
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                       It would only take 1 autist to create 20 accounts and automate everything to empty your forum
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                       What do they even do? Disagree is -1? Is it neutral? Is "optimistic" +1?
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                     But it's not like the link had viruses or stuff like that , it was a gdrive link with a game build uptodate , but i found it somewhere else and decided to give ppl a headsup and posted it here but little did i know that someone already shared it (yea most likely we had the same source)
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                     This will probably get some hate but this is a forum, a place for people to agree and disagree. The old rating system was fantastic, but the new one is very much an improvement. It's not a bad thing to be able to indicate that you don't like what someone posted. The scenarios you came up with could happen, but generally staff is very vigilant and always open to help.
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                     With the new ability to disagree with post I think the amount of low effort post and off topic shit posting will see a decline. Yeah if you come into a games thread and try to "break the echo-chamber" you're probably going to get a lot of disagrees. But if you put some effort into a post to explain your reasoning and it keeps the thread moving, I think you'll be surprised by how many people don't downvote you.
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                        This will probably get some hate but this is a forum, a place for people to agree and disagree. The old rating system was fantastic, but the new one is very much an improvement. It's not a bad thing to be able to indicate that you don't like what someone posted. The scenarios you came up with could happen, but generally staff is very vigilant and always open to help.
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                     Okay, but you're only talking about the disagree here. What about the other stuff? Was it truly important to make a differenciation between your "emotions" when you decide to like a post? I feel like it's trying so very hard to add value or meaning to something that didn't have that much meaning to begin with. People who would obsess over likes didn't need that incentive to care about it in the first place; the ones who don't won't start caring because of it.
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                        With the new ability to disagree with post I think the amount of low effort post and off topic shit posting will see a decline. Yeah if you come into a games thread and try to "break the echo-chamber" you're probably going to get a lot of disagrees. But if you put some effort into a post to explain your reasoning and it keeps the thread moving, I think you'll be surprised by how many people don't downvote you.
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                     I'm sure it was the intention in the first place. Problem is that for it to work you'll need an audience that is entirely objective and takes into consideration that everyone has their own opinion, and that seeing an opinion different from yours is not an attack on you. Good luck with that.
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                        Okay, but you're only talking about the disagree here. What about the other stuff? Was it truly important to make a differenciation between your "emotions" when you decide to like a post? I feel like it's trying so very hard to add value or meaning to something that didn't have that much meaning to begin with. People who would obsess over likes didn't need that incentive to care about it in the first place; the ones who don't won't start caring because of it.
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                        Besides, it's the same thing in the end, you just get a number under your username. You won't know the difference between a guy deemed "creative" and a guy deemed  "funny".
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                        I'm sure it was the intention in the first place. Problem is that for it to work you'll need an audience that is entirely objective and takes into consideration that everyone has their own opinion, and that seeing an opinion different from yours is not an attack on you. Good luck with that.
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                        It will probably convince some people not to "shitpost", but it will also probably reinforce the circlejerks or the unconstructive criticism of criticism. Hell, you could even see a lot of dislikes on a thread made to upload a NTR game, since that's such a popular target.
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                        I think you're making valid points, what you're talking about is certainly what was invisioned when they came up with the system, but I doubt it will be applicated and used that way. My guess is it might have a good impact on less popular threads, but not on the most consulted.
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                     Thank you for at least hearing my point out even if you don't necessarily agree with it. Not the strongest post I've ever made, kind of rushed.
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                     I think a point I would have added but luckily can add now is pretty simple. I am not necessarily speaking to you but more those reading or have already posted here.
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                     I understand change is hard, I myself was thrown off seeing it at first. This is a forum I come to everyday and little changes can really be jarring. But I don't think its fair to refer to this a "objectively bad" change. Give it time and I am sure it will become normal or you wont even notice the change. Its not far to jump head first into the removal pool without first seeing how deep it is.
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                     Staff is very vigilant and generally has a pretty good feel of how things are going. If the community as a whole cries out against it then I am sure we will see a change.
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                     But first we need to give it time to see how it goes, and not work with "could happen" scenarios.
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                     first i thought it was a good idea, but nobody wants a downvote,
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                     at least remove "disagree". if people dont like what you post, well, ignore it. but giving a few likes, it gives back a positive feeling. if a post is that "bad", report it and let the moderator look into it. disagree will only create bad feelings and bad morale.
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                     Except we were always able to indicate if we disagreed by, you know, posting that we disagreed.
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                     The difference is now you don't have to put any effort into it or give a reason, you can spam that shit for whatever reason (or no reason whatsoever). Of course that will be abused, the only question is how regularly.
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                     Friendly? Optimistic? You gotta be kidding me. How is that helpful to anyone ever?
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                     Winner? Is that supposed to be some throwback to ancient memes?
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                     Personally I'm not even a fan of likes since that often turns into a pointless e-peen measuring contest, but I guess it's preferable to an endless amount of "me too" posts.
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