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                       Overview:
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                      You are an adopted child who finally gets in touch with your biological mother and sisters who you thought you never had! You find the opportunity to get to know them in a two-week at L'amour Hotel stay which they paid for.
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                        Previously titled "
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                         A Perverted Family
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                        ", the developer has renamed this game to avoid problems.
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                     <b>
                      Thread Updated
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                     : 2020-01-01
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                     <b>
                      Release Date
                     </b>
                     : 2020-01-01
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                      Developer
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                     : ManicMinxy  -
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                     <b>
                      Censored
                     </b>
                     : No
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                     <b>
                      Version
                     </b>
                     : Day 2 Late Afternoon
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                     <b>
                      OS
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                     : Windows, Mac, Linux
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                     <b>
                      Language
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                     : English
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                      Genre
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                     :
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                         3DCG, Corruption, Exhibitionism, Female domination, Groping, Handjob, Harem, Incest, Lactation, Lesbian, Male protagonist, Masturbation, Milf, Oral sex, Teasing, Twins, Urination, Virgin
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                      Installation
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                         1- Extract to desired location.
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                         2- Click on "PervertedHotel.exe" to start playing.
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                         Day 2 Late Afternoon
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                         N/A
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                         Day 2 Afternoon
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                             Changes made:
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                             - Removed some transitions to provide more fluid game-play
                             <br/>
                             - Edited the system which allow players choose what relation exists between them and the characters.
                             <br/>
                             - Offered examples to players on what relationship might they use
                             <br/>
                             - Fixed spelling errors, formatting issues, and labels
                             <br/>
                             - Extended Spa scene with Alexa and Hailey
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                             - Extended Spa scene with Alexa, Brooke and Hailey
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                             - Remodelled Brooke's skin to be less shiny.
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                             - Remodelled Brooke's hair
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                             - Remodelled Hailey's body to reflect her original model
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                             - Added in new black bikini outfit for Brooke
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                             - Remodelled Hailey and Alexa's bodies for nudity
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                             - Added approx 4+ teasing transitions for Spa scene
                             <br/>
                             - Added in new Eliza reactions
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                             - Remodelled Maddison without makeup
                             <br/>
                             - Added in new bikini outfit for Maddison
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                             - Added in a new Jacuzzi scene with Maddison
                             <br/>
                             - Reprogrammed transition animation for physics related scenes
                             <br/>
                             - Remodelled Maddison's body for nudity
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                             - Added approx 8+ teasing transitions for Jacuzzi scene
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                             - Added in lactation object in HoneySelect
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                             - Added 1 Lactation Fetish E-scene with Maddison
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                             - Added 1 scene with the Stranger
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                             - Added additional expressions with Eliza
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                             - Made a limo map using Honey Select which was literal hell
                             <br/>
                             - Coordinated a 5 character scene (Maddison, Brooke, Hailey, Alexa, and the Stranger)
                             <br/>
                             - Added 10+ additional CG (including Brooke lewds and ahegao) with Vertical Scroll
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                          <u>
                           v1.37
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                             What to expect:
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                             + 3000+ CG!
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                             + Only 400 mb! (Compressed- Uncompromised Resolution Version)
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                             + Choose what relationship the characters have with you!
                             <br/>
                             + 2 Extra Scenes!
                             <br/>
                             + 2 Animations!
                             <br/>
                             + 1 H Scene!
                             <br/>
                             + Better play choices options
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                             - Redid earlier CG which were out of focus and troublesome
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                             - Added a new system to allow players choose what relation exists between them and the characters.
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                             - Added required censorship
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                             - Fixed spelling errors,  formatting issues, and labels
                             <br/>
                             - Added return button for Spa and Jacuzzi
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                             - Added choice room for Spa and Jacuzzi
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                             - Added in Option to leave Brooke's room following completion of scenes.
                             <br/>
                             - Added in Spa scene with Alexa and Brooke
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                             - Added 2 BJ Animations with Brooke
                             <br/>
                             - Added 1 Urination Fetish H-scene with Brooke
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                             - Added 10+ additional CG with Vertical Scroll
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                             - Included Linux Distributions
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                           v1.3
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                         </b>
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                         - It comes with about +500 CG!
                         <br/>
                         - Newly added map/menu system!
                         <br/>
                         - Beginning of Day 2!
                         <br/>
                         - Services from Eliza + other staff...
                         <br/>
                         - Choice to move around freely in a map.
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                         - Short "Quests"
                         <br/>
                         - Meeting a new character
                         <br/>
                         - 6 more new scenes!
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                         - 2 - 3 new H-Scenes!
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                             - Redid earlier CG
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                             - Integrated Map CG
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                             - Integrated Map System concurrent with Choice options, broadens possibility of dynamic gameplay
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                             - Integrated parallax effect on menu
                             <br/>
                             - Added in extra Eliza shower scene
                             <br/>
                             - Added in Eliza introducing new map
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                             - Added in "Game Tips" for when player feels lost, located when clicking on Eliza
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                             - Added in Breakfast scene with Girls
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                             - Quests with Eliza - To get members pass
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                             - Quest with Brooke - To get Ice and Wine
                             <br/>
                             - Added in scene with introduction to new character.
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                             - Added in shower scene with Masseuse
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                             - Added in new transitions to complement certain physics
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                             - Added in Sauna scene with Brooke
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                             - Added in 2 Erotic scenes, 1 sex scene
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                          <u>
                           v1.0
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                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         - Newly added point system!
                         <br/>
                         - Services from Eliza.
                         <br/>
                         - Choice to choose between 3 different swimwear outfits for the family.
                         <br/>
                         - Beach scene
                         <br/>
                         - Meeting a new character
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                         - And Maddison's story...
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                             - Redid earlier CG which were out of focus and troublesome
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                             - Added a new point system, which tallies points from each of the characters depending on your interaction with them.
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                             - Fixed formatting issues with choices involving Brooke and Hailey's questions in the swimwear shop.
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                             - Fixed spelling errors for Eliza scenes.
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                             - Added in lunch scene with Maddison
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                             - Added in building rapport scene with Eliza
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                             - Romance/Corruption option with Eliza
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                             - Added in phone styled conversation block with Brooke
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                             - Added in choice menu for 3 swimwear outfit choices for the family
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                             - Added in slight delays for vibrating transitions and new transitions
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                             - Added new upwards transitions with portrait images
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                             - Added in sunblock/massage scene with Maddison
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                             - Added in sunblock/massage scene with Alexa
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                             - Added in sunblock/massage scene with Brooke and Hailey
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                             - Added in swimming scene
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                             - Added in shower/Eliza scene
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                             - Added in dinner scene
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                             - Added in scene with introduction to new character.
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                             - Added 3 erotic-scenes, and 1 sex/ H-scene
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                          <u>
                           v0.45
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                         <br/>
                         <br/>
                         - Additional 500+ pictures
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                         - Scenes with Alexa
                         <br/>
                         - Custom Patreon Exclusive Cards placed After the Credits!
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                     well it was kinda short, for a proof of concept it works though. I found a number of grammatical errors (nothing too serious, like most russian qsp games) that can easily be fixed. Models look good and not asian which is not an easy task with HS, so kudos there. I think you spent a bit too much time with the hostess lady posing, if those were single transitional shots with the full pan up and maybe a tad faster and not click 3x and go, it may have worked better. Or maybe you could use a short video clip with her doing her poses I guess. As far as flow it kinda made it weird, but it works with a demo or proof of concept. One thing I will caution against is pick the bad answer and game over, a great game on the site, Dating my Daughter, is notorious for these silly cockblock mechanics. Don't make things far too easy but at the same time a gameover screen sucks if you haven't saved in awhile. So maybe don't be too punishing with how you deal out your game over screens.
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                        well it was kinda short, for a proof of concept it works though. I found a number of grammatical errors (nothing too serious, like most russian qsp games) that can easily be fixed. Models look good and not asian which is not an easy task with HS, so kudos there. I think you spent a bit too much time with the hostess lady posing, if those were single transitional shots with the full pan up and maybe a tad faster and not click 3x and go, it may have worked better. Or maybe you could use a short video clip with her doing her poses I guess. As far as flow it kinda made it weird, but it works with a demo or proof of concept. One thing I will caution against is pick the bad answer and game over, a great game on the site, Dating my Daughter, is notorious for these silly cockblock mechanics. Don't make things far too easy but at the same time a gameover screen sucks if you haven't saved in awhile. So maybe don't be too punishing with how you deal out your game over screens.
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                     Omg thank you for your feedback! I tried to maintain a 'verbal prose', so there may be some grammatical errors arising from that. There is probably a tonne of of mistakes not arising from that xD I feel it might make the sentences seem more like actual dialogue and less contrived? I would love for you to be my beta-tester... Critical feedback makes me happy ~ I'm going to message you more on that ~
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                        i would usually quote rick and morty's big fuck off head with a "I LIKE WHAT YOU GOT!!! GOOD JOB!!!" but holy fuck this was a good demo, like i rarely play a demo in these games and then be left with this feeling of "I WANT MORE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!" and i am not dissapointed by what there is, even though it is short, i don't have the feeling of it being to short for what it is, just please please please next update, add like 4 times the length
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                     So glad to be talking to bob dillan himself ^-^ I'm so glad you enjoyed the demo &lt;3 ! I recently got some feedback regarding the "game over"/"cockblock xD" mechanic and I have decided that I would be a wiser idea to change that to a "try again" menu that would revert you back to your previous choices... With that said I might come across problems trying to implement that as I have some difficulties ren'py ... Maintaining fluid gameplay is far more important than penalizing someone I think... I think the next update will be within a month. The demo took a long time to make because i had a hard time familiarizing myself with the programming and HS, and also I took a lot of time trying to perfect small details like "micro-expressions" in every scene~ I'll keep you guys updated &lt;3
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                        So glad to be talking to bob dillan himself ^-^ I'm so glad you enjoyed the demo &lt;3 ! I recently got some feedback regarding the "game over"/"cockblock XD" mechanic and I have decided that I would be a wiser idea to change that to a "try again" menu that would revert you back to your previous choices... With that said I might come across problems trying to implement that as I have some difficulties ren'py ... Maintaining fluid gameplay is far more important than penalizing someone I think... I think the next update will be within a month. The demo took a long time to make because i had a hard time familiarizing myself with the programming and HS, and also I took a lot of time trying to perfect small details like "micro-expressions" in every scene~ I'll keep you guys updated &lt;3
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                        Love the reaction to the free wifi.  Same one I usually give
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                     Thank you~! I have Roy 12 mods for that .. Most of my characters are based off their creations ~!
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                        Good p.o.c. (proof of concept) .
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                        Never enough redheads for myself or the otter. :heartcoveredeyes:
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                     , if dumb countries would stop saying 'boohoo we have an aging society let's open the floodgates to the third world, that will surely fix things' maybe that wouldn't be an issue. I am a staunch lover and supporter of redheads and will do my part to spread my American seed far and wide so the redhead crop won't die out.
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                        Wasn't too bad of a start. A decent concept and the models aren't too bad either. I hope there will some kind of map movement implemented, so I can roam the hotel and/or the city, visit random rooms, encounter random people staying at the hotel or locals, etc, etc. Probably dreaming a little too much, but I'll be keeping a keen eye on this! :winkytongue:
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                     Aww thank you ~! I hope so too, I have heaps of trouble with ren'py so I might be also dreaming... I know how to do image maps and click-based movement so maybe I could implement that ? I'll see how people feel about it ^-^
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                        Finally got around to checking this out. It seems cool so far. Just a little suggestion though, for the parts that are real photos, you may want to put a photoshop filter on them to make them look a little more like their drawn or rendered. Helps keep the flow even.
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                     That is an excellent suggestion ~! That was my initial idea but sadly, I don't have photoshop up and ready at the moment... I can't afford it and my uni doesn't provide a cheaper or a free version of photoshop xP Might be some time until I can get that done ! There is an option for me though to use online programs and even word to 'filter' the photo~ I will definitely need photoshop in the future to put in labels and watermarks~
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                     Really, really interesting concept and character art. I liked how the mother clearly looked like a true MILF, and older than the other female characters, which are akin to the PC, age wise.
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                     The whole story also got me intrigued, which is great. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this will play out.
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                     I'll probably become your patron. I just didn't already because your project is brand new, and I usually wait for a few weeks or months (depends on your work output) to see how the developer interacts with its patrons and how much work (builds, art, previews, etc.) he does monthly. If you do a fair share, I'll make the jump.
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                     Imho, Patreon is not about charging people. But about having a great project, and a great creative process where your "fans" get to interact with you and your art a lot. To the point of them giving you their hard earned money so you can continue what you are doing. It's more about providing entertainment, than just a game.
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                     See the difference here? They are not buying it from you. They are not paying for a subscription. They just want you to continue what you are doing and are even willing to pay so you can do even more, if possible.
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                     Reach that point (and a few developers did, Like Dark Cookie and a few others), and you simply won't even need to care about piracy anymore.
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                     I usually don't write this much about a new project, but yours have some real potential, IMO. I just couldn't resist and try to help.
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                        I'm always happy to take criticism! It would be so much help if you did that for me ! I must admit I did make the regrettable mistake of not running through the dialogue or even running it through a spell checker.. I was a bit caught up in the excitement of finishing what I wanted and releasing it~ ! Message me through discord or through 'Conversations' on this site!
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                        Really, really interesting concept and character art. I liked how the mother clearly looked like a true MILF, and older than the other female characters, which are akin to the PC, age wise.
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                        The whole story also got me intrigued, which is great. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this will play out.
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                        I'll probably become your patron. I just didn't already because your project is brand new, and I usually wait for a few weeks or months (depends on your work output) to see how the developer interacts with its patrons and how much work (builds, art, previews, etc.) he does monthly. If you do a fair share, I'll make the jump.
                        <br/>
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                        With that said, I'm not a big fan of game content behind paywalls...
                        <b>
                         There's nothing more frustrating for someone who is donating (and, in Patreon, IT IS a donation) to discover that, i.e., a site like this has a leaked version of the game (the one a higher tier donation got first) before he, who contributes, got his.
                        </b>
                        More than once, I actually dropped out of a project because of something like that happening.
                        <br/>
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                        Give exclusive polls to your higher donation tiers. Give walkthroughs. Previews. Exclusive higher tier channel inside Discord. Etc, etc., etc. Those are but just a  couple of things you can offer to incentivize higher donations.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Remember: Unless you have a game where its actual assets are online and needs to be constantly accessed (like a typical MMO), your game WILL get ripped. So I wouldn't try to put the game per se behind any paywall. Or, at the very least, allow all tiers to have access to the builds at the same time. That way, if it leaks (and it will, happens to ALL Patreon projects out there), no one who is actually contributing to your project will feel "cheated" in the process.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Many good projects in Patreon have the game without any paywall and are doing pretty well, financially speaking.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Imho, Patreon is not about charging people. But about having a great project, and a great creative process where your "fans" get to interact with you and your art a lot. To the point of them giving you their hard earned money so you can continue what you are doing. It's more about providing entertainment, than just a game.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        See the difference here? They are not buying it from you. They are not paying for a subscription. They just want you to continue what you are doing and are even willing to pay so you can do even more, if possible.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Reach that point (and a few developers did, Like Dark Cookie and a few others), and you simply won't even need to care about piracy anymore.
                        <br/>
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                        At all.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I usually don't write this much about a new project, but yours have some real potential, IMO. I just couldn't resist and try to help.
                        <br/>
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                        Anyways, keep up the great work! I'll be watching your project closely. And, if everything works as I think it will, shall become a patron of yours shortly.
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                     This so much this!  I'm a patron of a number of games but only at the lower levels as I have only so much to spend on porn games and i want to spread it as much as possible.  I think all games i support, I'm not at high enough levels to actually access new versions.  Sortof pisses me off a bit but that's one reason I'm here.  I can grab the newest versions and still feel that I'm at least contributing a bit to artists and devs I like.  Does mean I tend to spend more time here than on the Patreon forums but oh well.
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                        Really, really interesting concept and character art. I liked how the mother clearly looked like a true MILF, and older than the other female characters, which are akin to the PC, age wise.
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                        The whole story also got me intrigued, which is great. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this will play out.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I'll probably become your patron. I just didn't already because your project is brand new, and I usually wait for a few weeks or months (depends on your work output) to see how the developer interacts with its patrons and how much work (builds, art, previews, etc.) he does monthly. If you do a fair share, I'll make the jump.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        With that said, I'm not a big fan of game content behind paywalls...
                        <b>
                         There's nothing more frustrating for someone who is donating (and, in Patreon, IT IS a donation) to discover that, i.e., a site like this has a leaked version of the game (the one a higher tier donation got first) before he, who contributes, got his.
                        </b>
                        More than once, I actually dropped out of a project because of something like that happening.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Give exclusive polls to your higher donation tiers. Give walkthroughs. Previews. Exclusive higher tier channel inside Discord. Etc, etc., etc. Those are but just a  couple of things you can offer to incentivize higher donations.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Remember: Unless you have a game where its actual assets are online and needs to be constantly accessed (like a typical MMO), your game WILL get ripped. So I wouldn't try to put the game per se behind any paywall. Or, at the very least, allow all tiers to have access to the builds at the same time. That way, if it leaks (and it will, happens to ALL Patreon projects out there), no one who is actually contributing to your project will feel "cheated" in the process.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Many good projects in Patreon have the game without any paywall and are doing pretty well, financially speaking.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Imho, Patreon is not about charging people. But about having a great project, and a great creative process where your "fans" get to interact with you and your art a lot. To the point of them giving you their hard earned money so you can continue what you are doing. It's more about providing entertainment, than just a game.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        See the difference here? They are not buying it from you. They are not paying for a subscription. They just want you to continue what you are doing and are even willing to pay so you can do even more, if possible.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Reach that point (and a few developers did, Like Dark Cookie and a few others), and you simply won't even need to care about piracy anymore.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        At all.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I usually don't write this much about a new project, but yours have some real potential, IMO. I just couldn't resist and try to help.
                        <br/>
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                        Anyways, keep up the great work! I'll be watching your project closely. And, if everything works as I think it will, shall become a patron of yours shortly.
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                        Really, really interesting concept and character art. I liked how the mother clearly looked like a true MILF, and older than the other female characters, which are akin to the PC, age wise.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        The whole story also got me intrigued, which is great. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this will play out.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        I'll probably become your patron. I just didn't already because your project is brand new, and I usually wait for a few weeks or months (depends on your work output) to see how the developer interacts with its patrons and how much work (builds, art, previews, etc.) he does monthly. If you do a fair share, I'll make the jump.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        With that said, I'm not a big fan of game content behind paywalls...
                        <b>
                         There's nothing more frustrating for someone who is donating (and, in Patreon, IT IS a donation) to discover that, i.e., a site like this has a leaked version of the game (the one a higher tier donation got first) before he, who contributes, got his.
                        </b>
                        More than once, I actually dropped out of a project because of something like that happening.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Give exclusive polls to your higher donation tiers. Give walkthroughs. Previews. Exclusive higher tier channel inside Discord. Etc, etc., etc. Those are but just a  couple of things you can offer to incentivize higher donations.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Remember: Unless you have a game where its actual assets are online and needs to be constantly accessed (like a typical MMO), your game WILL get ripped. So I wouldn't try to put the game per se behind any paywall. Or, at the very least, allow all tiers to have access to the builds at the same time. That way, if it leaks (and it will, happens to ALL Patreon projects out there), no one who is actually contributing to your project will feel "cheated" in the process.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Many good projects in Patreon have the game without any paywall and are doing pretty well, financially speaking.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        Imho, Patreon is not about charging people. But about having a great project, and a great creative process where your "fans" get to interact with you and your art a lot. To the point of them giving you their hard earned money so you can continue what you are doing. It's more about providing entertainment, than just a game.
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                        See the difference here? They are not buying it from you. They are not paying for a subscription. They just want you to continue what you are doing and are even willing to pay so you can do even more, if possible.
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                        Reach that point (and a few developers did, Like Dark Cookie and a few others), and you simply won't even need to care about piracy anymore.
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                        I usually don't write this much about a new project, but yours have some real potential, IMO. I just couldn't resist and try to help.
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                        Anyways, keep up the great work! I'll be watching your project closely. And, if everything works as I think it will, shall become a patron of yours shortly.
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                     I'm so happy to hear that you like my demo! I can understand the frustration behind a game being leaked, and others getting access to an early access game which only the higher-tier patrons should be entitled to. I find that while there is no denying that a game will be leaked, this shouldn't dis-entitle higher-tier patrons from accessing the early-access game... I see the issue through the lens of this weird and perhaps illogical analogy: Say if I was a movie producer, and I was to release a movie to the cinemas, should I by reason of knowing that other people may stream or torrent the movie, stop charging people to go to the cinemas to see my movie and rely on people donating to me on the basis that they support my work? While a game is not synonymous with a movie... I find it that I'm not yet in the financial position to make the risk of loosing the market of people who want to be a higher-tier patron just to access my game earlier, as cynical and capitalistic as it may seem ~
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                     With that said however, I think giving exclusive polls to your higher donation tiers, walkthroughs, previews and exclusive channel access inside discord might be the things that make higher donation tiers feel less cheated , and I will go about my way implementing that ^_^
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                        I'm so happy to hear that you like my demo! I can understand the frustration behind a game being leaked, and others getting access to an early access game which only the higher-tier patrons should be entitled to. I find that while there is no denying that a game will be leaked, this shouldn't dis-entitle higher-tier patrons from accessing the early-access game... I see the issue through the lens of this weird and perhaps illogical analogy: Say if I was a movie producer, and I was to release a movie to the cinemas, should I by reason of knowing that other people may stream or torrent the movie, stop charging people to go to the cinemas to see my movie and rely on people donating to me on the basis that they support my work? While a game is not synonymous with a movie... I find it that I'm not yet in the financial position to make the risk of loosing the market of people who want to be a higher-tier patron just to access my game earlier, as cynical and capitalistic as it may seem ~
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                     I only praised it because you did a great job , IMO. Nothing more, nothing less ^^
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                     With that said, I really don't agree with your analogy, and the motive is quite clear: You're not a movie producer. And, most importantly, you're not making a commercial product (like a film is).
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                     That's why I started my prior explanation with a simple truth: Patronage is a donation. When I contribute to your project, I do it in good faith. You do not have to deliver anything after that. And I won't be able to even ask for a refund. See where this is going?
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                     Key word: donation.
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                     Patreon is about financially helping (emphasis here) the artist. Not buying from him. And what you (and a lot of other content creators out there) are doing is, simply put, selling early access.
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                     When, IMHO, you should actually prioritize making the whole content production process fun to your patrons. Stream in Picarto daily. Post a lot of things in your Patreon page and Discord. Etc.
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                     "Create" a great community around your game production for your patrons.
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                     I believe most patrons out there are after the whole "entertainment package" about your production process, and not just about the game per se.
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                     Again, I ask you to take a look at how Dark Cookie is doing and remind you that he has NEVER (and I should know since I've been a higher tier patron of his from the very beginning) put any of his actual game behind any paywall.
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                     IMO, it's a mere myth that you need that to have financial success in Patreon.
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                     You just need a great project and to provide great entertainment while creating your project.
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                     The rest naturally follows.
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                     But, then again, it's your project. So do what you feel its best.
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                     I just gave you my two cents on the subject. Keep putting content out, and I'll become a patron of yours, probably. Though, if I have to wait a lot at a lower tier, and the game leaks, I wouldn't be surprised if I dropped my patronage all together eventually.
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                     Because, as I explained earlier, I'm not buying access to an unfinished product.
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                     Instead, I just donated some funds in good faith to an artist. The least I would expect is access to your game. Having to go through piracy channels in order to do so, even though I'm donating, is a big, no, HUGE, no-no to me.
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                        My suggestion?? If you can do this honey studio stuff really fast, maybe the higher tiers get one or 2 "custom requests" a month and you send them a image of that. Like a patreon wants a 3some scene with mc, mom, and his personal assistant- Take a few minutes, do a nice threesome pic and make it pretty. Send it out and happy patreon!
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                        I only praised it because you did a great job , IMO. Nothing more, nothing less ^^
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                        With that said, I really don't agree with your analogy, and the motive is quite clear: You're not a movie producer. And, most importantly, you're not making a commercial product (like a film is).
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                        That's why I started my prior explanation with a simple truth: Patronage is a donation. When I contribute to your project, I do it in good faith. You do not have to deliver anything after that. And I won't be able to even ask for a refund. See where this is going?
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                        Key word: donation.
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                        Patreon is about financially helping (emphasis here) the artist. Not buying from him. And what you (and a lot of other content creators out there) are doing is, simply put, selling early access.
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                        When, IMHO, you should actually prioritize making the whole content production process fun to your patrons. Stream in Picarto daily. Post a lot of things in your Patreon page and Discord. Etc.
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                        "Create" a great community around your game production for your patrons.
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                        I believe most patrons out there are after the whole "entertainment package" about your production process, and not just about the game per se.
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                        Again, I ask you to take a look at how Dark Cookie is doing and remind you that he has NEVER (and I should know since I've been a higher tier patron of his from the very beginning) put any of his actual game behind any paywall.
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                        IMO, it's a mere myth that you need that to have financial success in Patreon.
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                        You just need a great project and to provide great entertainment while creating your project.
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                        The rest naturally follows.
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                        But, then again, it's your project. So do what you feel its best.
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                        I just gave you my two cents on the subject. Keep putting content out, and I'll become a patron of yours, probably. Though, if I have to wait a lot at a lower tier, and the game leaks, I wouldn't be surprised if I dropped my patronage all together eventually.
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                        Because, as I explained earlier, I'm not buying access to an unfinished product.
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                        Instead, I just donated some funds in good faith to an artist. The least I would expect is access to your game. Having to go through piracy channels in order to do so, even though I'm donating, is a big, no, HUGE, no-no to me.
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                     Hmm right ! I'll put that into consideration... The demo for now is free ... To perhaps some people they might feel that the sole reason they 'donated' is for the sake of getting early access? I think I need to hear more about it from more people before I make a decision on whether or not I should release any future updates with a paywall... From your 'two-cents' I'm opened to the idea of it ^-^
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                        If you want to be a good dev emulate what Dark Cookie does. Keep people excited and engaged but don't let patreons steer your ship, otherwise you will end up like Tom Hanks and you don't want that.
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                        Earlier we were discussing lazy devs in discord and on the fly Bloo came up with this which I totally agree with.
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                        It's your story and will go the way you want it to. A smart way Dark Cookie keeps the community engaged with Summertime Saga is by having his patreons vote on what character story arcs they want to see next. That way he can kinda focus his efforts in a single direction making it easier, patreons get their democracy and everyone is happier with the end result.
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                     Oh Adoringfan~ Always being super helpful to me ^-^ Thank you for this ~! I think I am going to guide my audience in a certain direction and then let them make certain decisions ... That way I can steer the narrative and keep the community happy ~~ &lt;3 I'm definitely going to reference the "The Things you should do when creating a game" more often ~
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                     Do people go to arcades anymore? all the ones around here closed down years ago. Closest you can get is something like a Chuck E Cheese.
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                     Well erotic content lacking a bit we get a little eliza tease. But all in all will be keeping an eye on this one!
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                        (writing as I play, I feel its more direct feedback)
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                        So you know the dev is a big nerd when the biggest thing the MC is excited about is not the free minibar (since that thing is ass expensive irl) but the free wifi LOL. Love that you have manage to make the models so well using HS, though the butt on the girls still has that japanese missing ass look. Still better than what I can pull off on my version.
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                        Not sure I like the game over when she pushes out her chest. Maybe have her react negatively and you lose relationship instead. and Does Eliza have freckles? they disappear in the close up shots but look like they are there in regular gameplay.
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                        The intro of the mom....is a bit underdeveloped. As someone who has lived their life without their mother in the picture I can't imagine this being the way that convo goes if I were to ever meet her. The guilt part good. just the writing needs a bit more work here, flushed out a bit. The back half of the conversation is pretty decent, but here is where the hint of mom having a son fetish seems to be so its what I expected. Meeting the sisters looks and feels like those long lost reunions on tv so kudos there.
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                        Do people go to arcades anymore? all the ones around here closed down years ago. Closest you can get is something like a Chuck E Cheese.
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                        Well erotic content lacking a bit we get a little eliza tease. But all in all will be keeping an eye on this one!
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                     Thank you for your feedback ~! Firstly yeah... There is a little mix-up.. I tried to do this thing where I change perspective, and we can see what Eliza thinks? Does it work? Its the part where Eliza says "*Ahaha so ridiculous* or something right? I think I am going to remove it ~
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                     I changed the game mechanics from having a game over menu to a try again menu... This means that you won't get penalized at all for being super overly perverted or weird ...
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                        I'm so happy to hear that you like my demo! I can understand the frustration behind a game being leaked, and others getting access to an early access game which only the higher-tier patrons should be entitled to. I find that while there is no denying that a game will be leaked, this shouldn't dis-entitle higher-tier patrons from accessing the early-access game... I see the issue through the lens of this weird and perhaps illogical analogy: Say if I was a movie producer, and I was to release a movie to the cinemas, should I by reason of knowing that other people may stream or torrent the movie, stop charging people to go to the cinemas to see my movie and rely on people donating to me on the basis that they support my work? While a game is not synonymous with a movie... I find it that I'm not yet in the financial position to make the risk of loosing the market of people who want to be a higher-tier patron just to access my game earlier, as cynical and capitalistic as it may seem ~
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