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                      You play as a 25 year old man that moved out of his parents house when he was 16. You done pretty well for yourself and are a manager of a bank in New York. After 9 years being on your own, your younger sister phones and tells you she had a falling out with your parents and is in New York. You invite her round to your place and the game starts 5 minutes before she arrives.​
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                      TroopJunior
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                     0.1
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                     14 July
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                     English
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                         1- Extract to desired location.
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                         2- Click on "IS.exe" to start playing.
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                         As I said before, the game is still in very early production so I'm not expecting any money, just feedback. To give feedback, could you please see the most recent post if you have the time and suggests improvements?
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                         After playing adult games for over four years, I decided to start my own project. This is still in very early production but I thought I would get a rough idea of the game out there to see how people like it so far.
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                        windows version, i get an error right after start. Here is the traceback file.
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                        wwhat image are you trying to use, your link isnt working.. also i cleaned up the post a little
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                        I tried out the game and it's less than 2 minutes of actual gameplay. I wonder if it should be re-labeled as a v0.01-pre alpha as there's only an introductory like scene with no sort of progression.
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                        The banter and grammar seem to be on point (with a few exceptions) and it looks like it could be promising.
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                        &gt; What sort of genre are you looking to build on this project? Incest/non-incest? There were no renders that I saw in my runthrough of a whole body shot of your sister to see what she looks like. I think this is the main question for the game. What is the goal? To help her become completely independent? Or corrupt her to be your plaything? Maybe something in between?
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                        &gt; Renders seemed to be on the grainy side. This didn't bother me much but I am spoiled playing games such as Anna Exciting Affection and Dating my Daughter
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                        &gt; Will there be a point/stat system in place to take inventory of your progression? I wasn't sure if the choices I was making would have an effect at some point in the game (i.e. friendship, romance, persuasion, corruption, affection, etc.)
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                        &gt; In the same vein as DMD, as this is your sister, there could be opportunity to slowly rebuild your relationship with her (given how the story states you haven't seen her in 9 years) There could be choices to lower stats and possibly end your relationship prematurely.
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                     First of all thanks a lot for the feedback, now to answer your questions:
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                     1. Yeah, the game will most likely be incest game with other characters that you can become involved with.
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                     2. The main goal would probably be an ending where you can get all three of the opportunities (Completely independent, completely corrupt and a mixture of both.)
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                     2. As I said previously, the renders were just sort of thrown together to so you had something to look at in the demo, I'll try and improve them in the next release (might be difficult with the computer I have since renders would take forever) but I'll do my best.
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                     3. Yes, there will more than likely be a stat system. I haven't figured out which stats I'm going to use yet for the sole purpose that I don't want to completely copy DMD.
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                     4. That's why I'm not 100% on 3. That's what I'm looking to do but since MrDots is doing that right now (and doing it pretty well) I'm hesitant because people will most likely say that I'm just copying him, but I'll work something out.
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                        First impressions: it's super short,the pictures are super grainy and the sisters yellow eyes need to change.... she is blonde so give her some nice blue or gray eyes. As for story, there really is nothing to say because it's just so short. As no planned content is listed anywhere ,im guessing you are aiming for bro/sis romance.
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                        Cant wait to check it out, and thanks for the your work on the walkthrough for that game i wont mention! Helped out a lot.
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While running game code:
WindowsError: [Error 5] Access is denied: u'A:\\Games\\IS_1.0/game\\saves\\persistent'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "A:\Games\IS_1.0\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 295, in bootstrap
    renpy.main.main()
  File "A:\Games\IS_1.0\renpy\main.py", line 490, in main
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WindowsError: [Error 5] Access is denied: u'A:\\Games\\IS_1.0/game\\saves\\persistent'

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.12.4.2187
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                     Can I ask, conceptually it sounds interesting, and I like that you're not planning to force us to keep hands off or be hands on with the sister, that freedom is really awesome. And I'm assuming since you start the corruption at some point, you could also change your mind at some point to (un)do the corruption.
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                     if possible and even if it takes 2-3 months I would like to see a solid amount of content for your official v0.01 release. there doesn't need to be any sex since the name of the game is slow progression (maybe not DMD snail slow) but jumping into dicking your sister on the first day won't win you any fans.
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                     Interesting ideas. I have toyed with the idea of having a problem from her past that needs fixed where you can help her. What that is? I have no idea yet. Right now I'm just mainly focusing on the 'get to know you' part of the story. So many games where you meet a relative you haven't seen in a while (DMD, parental love etc.) all jump in and make it look like you're best friends with them after like two days of knowing each other i.e. there's zero awkwardness.
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                     As for the slowness of the game, it will be a slow paced game, but like you said, no where near the slowness of DMD. That being said, since I'm trying to make the game as realistic as possible, I'm looking to add some h-scenes with the mc along the way (if it fits with the story). Since he's a single man in his mid 20's living in New York, he's more that likely going to have a few chances at getting lucky, right?
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                     With the sister's income side of things, I don't really think I'm going to go the dependency route. The game is called 'Independent Sister' so more than likely she would want to be as independent as possible, and when it's all said and done, that's mainly what the end result is going to be.
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                     thanks again for the reply! I agree on the awkwardness piece. I myself have two sisters and we aren't best friends by any stretch of the imagination lol.
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                     if you've never seen your sister at all then yes we have the total stranger perspective but there are some relations here, just not as strong from not having seen her in so long. so I would say there might even be some ambivalence and weirdness at first but once you start doing nice things for her (I think falling out with anyone much less your parents can be traumatizing), you could slowly make her go from independent inked girl to "dependent on you good girl". By nice things I mean like making her breakfast in the morning, asking her what she wants to do, maybe she needs a new casual outfit, or help her find her best friend in the city.
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                        and building out her personality so that there's a connection and almost "real" relationship to her; once you have this then the payoff is that much sweeter.
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                        the fact that she's also hot as fuck and doesn't like wearing bras helps too lol.
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                        It's about time we saw some Suicide Girls types making an appearance in these games! This is definitely one of my most anticipated games now! Good job with her
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                     Thank you both for the kind words! This is very new territory for me, i fancy myself more of a writer than anything. Your compliments helped me gather up a sufficient amount of confidence that i plan on putting to good use. Heres a little peek at what im working on today...
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                     some more thoughts:
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                     day 1 should be very story heavy with no chance at nudity unless you want to game over.
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                     kind of reminds me of DMD day 1 where you had 4-5 different options on the screen but they all led to story and background or asking questions to expand.
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                     im thinking of when you meet up with someone you haven't seen in awhile - what kind of questions do you ask them?
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                     -how are you?
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                     -what happened with the parents?
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                     -what were you doing before you got here?
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                     -are you hungry?
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                     -what did you want to do tonight?
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                     and so on and so forth.
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                     you could give her a tour of the place after some 20 questions, help her with her stuff, and then leave her alone to shower before you go out for dinner in the city. peeking into the shower would result in a game over; the nudity or at least implied/partial nudity would be far later down the road.
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                     anyway just some rambling thoughts so early in the morning. more renders please
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                        some more thoughts:
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                        day 1 should be very story heavy with no chance at nudity unless you want to game over.
                        <br/>
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                        kind of reminds me of DMD day 1 where you had 4-5 different options on the screen but they all led to story and background or asking questions to expand.
                        <br/>
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                        im thinking of when you meet up with someone you haven't seen in awhile - what kind of questions do you ask them?
                        <br/>
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                        -how are you?
                        <br/>
                        -what have you been up to?
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                        -what happened with the parents?
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                        -what were you doing before you got here?
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                        -are you hungry?
                        <br/>
                        -what did you want to do tonight?
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        and so on and so forth.
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                        you could give her a tour of the place after some 20 questions, help her with her stuff, and then leave her alone to shower before you go out for dinner in the city. peeking into the shower would result in a game over; the nudity or at least implied/partial nudity would be far later down the road.
                        <br/>
                        <br/>
                        anyway just some rambling thoughts so early in the morning. more renders please
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                     I gotta disagree with the no nudity or no partial nudity. Depending on the personality of the MC you could easily add nudity in as MC finding a chance peep on his sister. Just make sure you dont set it up to be an insta "you didnt get caught"
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                     Add in something that could cause the MC to get caught and cause a game over.
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                     The fact is more nudity is only going to atrract more pledgers on Patreon. But for those who actually want story you need to make the nudity is plausible.
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                     You just gotta find the sweet balance between fan service and making a decent game with a decent story.
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                     guess we need to agree to disagree; I think the corruption will in time. if you haven't seen sister and for the longest time have had no romantic or even lustful interest, then the chance to "peep" on her right when you see her for the first time in years is way out of character (unless story establishes MC as a total perv right from the get-go)
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                     since sister is already dressed rather provocatively (seems to be no bra and likely no panties) MC could go to sleep at the end of Day 1 and have some corruptable wet dream about the sister to get that pathway to inevitable corruption started.
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                     I am not knocking your thoughts at all
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                        guess we need to agree to disagree; I think the corruption will in time. if you haven't seen sister and for the longest time have had no romantic or even lustful interest, then the chance to "peep" on her right when you see her for the first time in years is way out of character (unless story establishes MC as a total perv right from the get-go)
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                     yeah no worries man. Its just a debate on it lol. In the long run the dev is gonna do what the dev is gonna do and Im fine with that. Either Ill like the direction hes taking and Ill play it or I wont like it and therefore wont play it.
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                     Im just saying it could be conceivable for the MC to have a chance to peep on his sister. As a voyeur myself I can tell you that romantic and lustful interests do not have to be there.
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                        the lighting on the second one seems off, a bit too dark and the glasses seem too cloudy; hiding her eyes.
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                        other than that, thank you for providing these renders. I must say she is most definitely not wearing a bra and by default, must not be wearing any panties :FeelsGoodMan:
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                     Lol. Did you read my post? I'm having issues with the glasses. And I agree with you on lighting. Trying to get surfaces correct first, then I'll come back to lights.
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                     I see where the both of you are coming from and as was mentioned, it's all about finding the right balance. The way I see it is there are two options; make the mc a perv and have nudity right away (will attract more players), or go the route I want to go and will enjoy making which means none of that peeping stuff.
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                        I gotta disagree with the no nudity or no partial nudity. Depending on the personality of the MC you could easily add nudity in as MC finding a chance peep on his sister. Just make sure you dont set it up to be an insta "you didnt get caught"
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                     There's always the option of using cut-scenes that are not from the MC's point of view, which quite a few games have used in early versions just to get some renders with more skin that can be used to attract players/patrons. The sister could be taking a shower or changing her clothes or talking to a friend on the phone naked in her bed, just reflecting on the day and the changes in her life now that she's moved in with her brother. In other words, an early version can give the player plenty of nude pics of the sister without even having to address whether the brother is a pervy voyeur or not. The game "Daryce" I thought did an effective job of giving the player lots of good pics while still maintaining the MC's err, noble, characteristics.
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                        There's always the option of using cut-scenes that are not from the MC's point of view, which quite a few games have used in early versions just to get some renders with more skin that can be used to attract players/patrons. The sister could be taking a shower or changing her clothes or talking to a friend on the phone naked in her bed, just reflecting on the day and the changes in her life now that she's moved in with her brother. In other words, an early version can give the player plenty of nude pics of the sister without even having to address whether the brother is a pervy voyeur or not. The game "Daryce" I thought did an effective job of giving the player lots of good pics while still maintaining the MC's err, noble, characteristics.
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                        At this moment im fighting with an issue concerning her glasses, and im seriously thinking of throwing them out despite my infatuation...:'(, but i got my render quality up way higher than i thought i could with the hardware i have:FuckYea:, but thats when the shit hit the proverbial fan. Hopefully i can find a fix..havent given up hope yet. ill post one with the ugliness shopped a bit.
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                     The background is overexposed.
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                     Don't lit stuff up to much.
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                        Don't lit stuff up to much.
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                     Thanks, but I had fixed these these issues already, it was an issue with the surface of the lenses with 3delight, still appreciate your help!
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                        looks good man. sorry to hear about your troubles and I hope you guys get back on track with this project soon.
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                     I've always been a fan if big natural hanging funbags.  I should be able to dial it down without it being too noticable. I also want to add that they aren't this saggy normally. Here they are pushed in and squeezed together.
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                            Hate to do this to you guys, but @TroopJunior and myself really want to give this game all that we could. I wasn't looking to spend cash because...well because I'm poor af in all honesty. Well I've decided to throw up some funds because things about 3delight just didn't have that "umph" that I was looking for. I couldn't afford the latest nvidiva rigs for iray, but I found another solution. By remotely connecting to another pc that has the sufficient hardware, I'm able to drastically improve the quality of my renders and have them done in a timely manner. Also my pc hasn't crashed once so....there's that. Threw this scene together quickly so that I could update all of you asap, so pretend that the shirts D_former wasn't done so shitty (rerendering it now)
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                     The game isn't a game yet. (We should actually take down what's in OP @TroopJunior) What troop and I have is a project.  If you'd read through the thread, you'd see that troop and I are completely redoing what he started. The game will have whole new look visuals will be rendered in Full HD, as well as a slightly altered plot, and new features added to gui.
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                        The game isn't a game yet. (We should actually take down what's in OP @TroopJunior) What troop and I have is a project.  If you'd read through the thread, you'd see that troop and I are completely redoing what he started. The game will have whole new look visuals will be rendered in Full HD, as well as a slightly altered plot, and new features added to gui.
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                        The game isn't a game yet. (We should actually take down what's in OP @TroopJunior) What troop and I have is a project.  If you'd read through the thread, you'd see that troop and I are completely redoing what he started. The game will have whole new look visuals will be rendered in Full HD, as well as a slightly altered plot, and new features added to gui.
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                     looking forward to it! if you need help with proof reading or brevity/coherent sentences let me know. I am a native English speaker born and raised in Los Angeles
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