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                      is the story of a virginal male protagonist whose older identical twin sisters help him to lose his virginity. There are branching pathways, player choices, and multiple endings. Will you romance your own twin sister? Your mother? The girl from across the street. Or someone else entirely?​
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                         3DCG, Incest, Voyeurism, Masturbation, Corruption, drugs
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                         All chapters contained in current version.
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                        Walkthrough
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                     Doesn't run for me, neither in shell (ubuntu 17.04 64bit) nor in wine, the latter because it is a 32bit wine and this is for some reason a 64bit exe.
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                         X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error)
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                         Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
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                         Serial number of failed request:  178
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                     Hey! Thanks for sharing my game and thanks for the honest feedback! I'll take it into honest consideration for future installments. This is my first attempt at an adult visual novel and, while I'm trying to do something a little bit different, I'm still learning.
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                        Hey! Thanks for sharing my game and thanks for the honest feedback! I'll take it into honest consideration for future installments. This is my first attempt at an adult visual novel and, while I'm trying to do something a little bit different, I'm still learning.
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                        I don't mind people sharing the game, as I've made it available for free download, however I would much rather you download it from my itch.io account at
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                        as it helps me keep track of distribution and people can kick me a dollar or two, if they so choose. Also, go to
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                     Welcome to the site. And glad you chose to both take the time to comment, and not making it a hostile comment. While I can't promise anything in regards to download sites, as there is an approved hosts site, we usually use here. But there should be in the OP a link to your site, as per the rules. With all that said, nice start. Forget the haters. Read the constructive posts. And do with it what you will. Money usually comes with good and consistant product. And on this site, communicating with the plebs, is just good marketing
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                        : I'm glad to see you here, communication is important. Also, I want you to know that while many here are not willing to spend money, this kind of forum will bring you basically free advertisement around the net, and many people will decide to support you if, after having tried it, they think that you're doing a good job and don't slack.
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                        Since we come from some bad days from the POV of patreon releases, with other big games that delivered very little and/or very poorly, I want to summarize here what I think about game development. I hope it'll help you to avoid mistakes that seems to help you, but they do it only in the short run, while damaging you on the long run:
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                        . We pay, we play. That's it. Big brother is the brightest example of how to let other people ruin your game. Run polls on the cloth styles if you want. Give to higher patreons early releases, 4k CGs .rar packs, anything but the chance to change your story. The writing must be set in stone unless they tell you that something doesn't make sense, and, even then, it's up to you to decide how to change it.
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                        . Look at the TES saga, the new XCOM saga, the STALKER saga and many other games: I, myself, translated mega mods that came out even more than a decade after the game. That, I'm sure, is the proof of what people do when they think a game that's already really good but could be even awesome. If you want to integrate those people into your team is up to you. Think about the possibilities!
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                        . If you feel that you can't deliver anything worthy of the people's money, suspend the payments for that month, explain the situation to you patreons and, if you're not sure about when you'll be able to get back on it, DON'T give any date. We lost count of the broken promises and never delivered builds. Also, the money you get is yours to spend how you want and people will bitch about it only if it's a lot and they don't get enough in return: don't mind them, they often are the same people that don't patronize anybody at all and/or don't have any idea of how much work and money it takes to make a game. Just do your part.
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                        I'm getting sleepy, so this is all. I hope it helps you. You can read about critics specific to your game in the rest of the thread, so there's no need to talk about them here. I wish you good luck with your project.
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                        I wanted to try something a bit different...also, I'm toying around with the idea of a harem ending as a special for my high level donors, so I wanted to have options. I also have idea for other characters that I can work into the story in a later chapter. I have ideas to work in at least one aunt (I agree with you...two would be interesting. I may try to swing that), a cousin, and one or two mysterious strangers that work into the back story. I'll probably only use one or two of those ideas, as I don't want things to get too convoluted, and I already have a pretty complex plot in mind. The specific characters that I add will be voted on by my high level donors when I hit a certain Patreon goal.
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                        Good start, I 'm seriously considering to support you.
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                        The harem ending is IMHO a must for a game labeled corruption/mind control.
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                        However what do you mean with "harem ending as special for the high level donors"?
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                        Are you planning to have major game content (not minor stuffs like dresses/walktrought) ONLY for high donors?
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                        Will this content be release with the rest of the game for all the donors/supporters at some point in future?
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                     I'm going to add additional scenes for high level donors. It's a pathway involving the cheerleader that will only be available to high level donors. I'm deciding whether or not I want to tie that exclusively into the harem ending...I would like to make it something really special.
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                        I kinda liked the game. Usually I like games where the characters have more motivation than "let's bang because this is a sex game", but i kinda liked the twins. They are so over the top with their "let's corrupt our brother, because we can", that I can actually enjoy it as a game that doesn't take itself too seriously.
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                     I really appreciate that you get what I'm trying to do. I did want to do something over-the-top, and the twins were the first characters that I created. The whole game is really about them, their relationship with each other, and the relationship that they want to have with the rest of the family. I'm going to explore their motivation more in future installments, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head...they try to trick themselves into believing that they're selfless, but their real motivation is simply the fact that that can, and they want to.
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                     Again, I appreciate all the feedback, both positive and negative. I have a detailed outline of the next two chapters, as well as the general direction that I want to take the story (probably five or six chapters total), but I'm starting to get some great ideas from you all that are influencing some minor changes.
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                     And not to pimp the Patreon page too much, but if you're considering becoming a donor, even at the $1 level, it starts to add up! All the money I make now goes back into the game for purchasing art assets, software, and getting a computer that is more suitable for rendering graphics (my current rig is geared toward audio production).
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                        I initially liked it as well.
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                     That's just for early access. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my description, but I'm releasing each chapter to the public for free one month after the $10 patron release.
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                        That's just for early access. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my description, but I'm releasing each chapter to the public for free one month after the $10 patron release.
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                     And people who have donated to lower tiers, like, for instance, US$ 5, would have to wait for the same as those who didn't give a single cent. Is that fair?
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                     Now, multiply that US$ 5 per your whole development time, which will probably be over a year... That equals to US$ 60.00+, easily. And, the whole time, said patron would still have to come here (or other piracy channels) in order to play the game. Or watch people who never donated a single cent doing so and playing the game earlier than they did.
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                        EDIT: I'm also viewing the Patreon not as a way to 'buy' the game(s) but as a way to support my work. If people would like me to produce more content faster, then I want to give them a little something extra in the form of extra content, earlier access, and at the higher levels, the ability to shape minor aspects of the game and its characters.
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                     And, yet, you are "selling" early access, putting it behind a somewhat considerable (when you think long term patronage) paywall?
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                     Again, I dig the concept and think it has loads of potential. But the only way I would ever consider becoming a patron was if I loved it enough to pay the US$ 10 for it. I would never, ever, consider paying for the lower tiers. Not worth it, IMO.
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                     So your only problem is the $5 tier? If people don't want to use it, they don't have to. The $1 tier is identical, so people can use it if they would rather. I wanted to have another option or those that wanted to donate a little more, but not $10 ('donate' being the key word). If they tier proves to be unpopular, I'll probably cull it.
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                        So your only problem is the $5 tier? If people don't want to use it, they don't have to. The $1 tier is identical, so people can use it if they would rather. I wanted to have another option or those that wanted to donate a little more, but not $10 ('donate' being the key word). If they tier proves to be unpopular, I'll probably cull it.
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                        I'm a musician in my 'day job'. At every gig I play I put out a tip jar, even though I get paid by the venue, just for those that want to give something extra. I've been tipped anywhere from pocket change to a $100 bill by people that knew they were getting the same product as everyone else who just paid the cover charge. The concept really isn't that difficult to grasp.
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                     Oh, well...
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                     Then try asking for those who did tip less to actually leave the place, so you can do your show solely for the "high tippers". Oh! And do tell the low tippers that they should come back in 30 days when you will be doing a public show where no tips will be allowed nor needed. I'm sure that will play out quite right.
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                     Your project, your funeral.
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                     Go about it as you want to. I'm sincerely interested in it and giving you my honest point of view.
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                     I do hope the best for you though, and pity those souls who do not "donate" US$ 10 or more.
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                     You talk about people donating, "tipping" you, giving you their support, and, yet, you do not grant to those same donors the courtesy of something as basic as access to your project?
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                     Because, you know, they could just wait a bit and get it anyway for free. Or on a piracy site...
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                     And the mere concept of someone who might have donated US$ 50 or more, in the long run, having to go to a piracy site to actually play the game is mind boggling to me.
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                     Or they could just wait for the public release, even though they might be donating towards your art for several months, right?
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                     After all, they do get a very nice cold automated "thank you" from you every time their CC is billed, on the 1st of every month, correct? That should be enough.
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                     Seriously, though, it's just all about showing them the same appreciation they showed towards your art. Nothing more, nothing less. The concept really isn't that difficult to grasp.
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                     Is that the gratitude you show when people tip you?
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                        So your only problem is the $5 tier? If people don't want to use it, they don't have to. The $1 tier is identical, so people can use it if they would rather. I wanted to have another option or those that wanted to donate a little more, but not $10 ('donate' being the key word). If they tier proves to be unpopular, I'll probably cull it.
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                     This is the ongoing argument with the Patreon model.  Darkcookie is making about 170k a year and his work is free, no special access.  Then you have someone like Darksilver who is making more but is a greedy turd.  How much is enough etc.  Not criticizing your choices.  As long as you are upfront and honest, I really don't care.   I am a bit miffed at DS over some of the things he has done vs what he has said.  So this is a subject that I often feel the need to post on.  IF you make a decent game, you are honest and actually are making a product you will make money even if you are not asking for it.  You can make the same kind of money asking with restricted access, not sure which is best and to be honest, not sure what I would do if I was in your position. *Shrugs*
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                        I'm a musician in my 'day job'. At every gig I play I put out a tip jar, even though I get paid by the venue, just for those that want to give something extra. I've been tipped anywhere from pocket change to a $100 bill by people that knew they were getting the same product as everyone else who just paid the cover charge. The concept really isn't that difficult to grasp.
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                        So your only problem is the $5 tier? If people don't want to use it, they don't have to. The $1 tier is identical, so people can use it if they would rather. I wanted to have another option or those that wanted to donate a little more, but not $10 ('donate' being the key word). If they tier proves to be unpopular, I'll probably cull it.
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                     The difference between your music job and this project is that you have a product which has something of a set determined value by the industry. the AAA titles go for 60 bucks. This is what would be your standard limit. truthfully your game will have a retail worth to an individual of about 5 USD total if it went to sale on steam so be fortunate that patreons are willing to spend 60 over a lifetime.  Build an extras pack give it out to 10-15 dollar patrons and you got something.
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                     I am actually surprised that he has not released it to everyone already.
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                        So your only problem is the $5 tier? If people don't want to use it, they don't have to. The $1 tier is identical, so people can use it if they would rather. I wanted to have another option or those that wanted to donate a little more, but not $10 ('donate' being the key word). If they tier proves to be unpopular, I'll probably cull it.
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                     I very nearly did end up a patron to this game until I saw the paywall.
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                        Nowhere near the point we were making.
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                        The point we were making was it's a new game by a new dev and he's dived straight in locking new release behind a pay wall before building up his fan base which he won't get now.
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                     I agree with you. By in this case we are going to see the new version in 17 days. So there is still chance to increase the number of patrons.
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                     Meh DRM making games unstable is like saying "if the girl is on top and you can't get pregnant," its a great myth but its really just something you tell yourself when you gonna do it the wrong way and want to enjoy it more. I mean last time I had DRM make it harder to play was the original Sims, forgot what expansion and it was long time ago lol. Like I got my Witcher 3 on steam. But these are not paid games part of the legality of it all is they are FREE games and they use a loop hole for pay wall for early access to beta versions or whatever they want to call it. Legally most of them are using programs they don't have commercial license for so can't legally sell a game with the images in them. Like a lot of them just use bootleg copies of Illusion game char posers to make their scenes not even close to legal to sell content for money doing that, but they don't sell it your donating to them and its "free."
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                        Meh DRM making games unstable is like saying "if the girl is on top and you can't get pregnant," its a great myth but its really just something you tell yourself when you gonna do it the wrong way and want to enjoy it more. I mean last time I had DRM make it harder to play was the original Sims, forgot what expansion and it was long time ago lol. Like I got my Witcher 3 on steam. But these are not paid games part of the legality of it all is they are FREE games and they use a loop hole for pay wall for early access to beta versions or whatever they want to call it. Legally most of them are using programs they don't have commercial license for so can't legally sell a game with the images in them. Like a lot of them just use bootleg copies of Illusion game char posers to make their scenes not even close to legal to sell content for money doing that, but they don't sell it your donating to them and its "free."
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                        Oh and I love sims the evilest of the DRM users did with sims 4 or was it 3, want say 4. They put out a bootleg first with a bug where first time censor showed up it would expand over the entire screen. Then people would use their accounts on their forums to put in support tickets for this horrible bug that was huge deal all over their forums, basically volunteered for account banning as they rounded them all then latter announced only the bootleg copy they released the day before launch had that bug. They collected so many user names of people on their forums who were using bootlegs of the game pretending to be real customers it was just insane funny for me to watch people report that bug for like a year they were still getting that bootleg copy, it was still being passed around even after all the big names in hackers who remove drm fixed their copies they were still people trolling putting their names on the broken one lol.
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