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                  Keep me in the dark - i love surprises
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                  If it is important let me clearly know about stuff
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                  I want a clear explanation for core mechanics - i figure out the rest by myself
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                  Who needs info? I am code-savy and simply dig it out of your source code
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                  Neither of the above - i just use a cheat engine to overcome obstacles
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                          Give me a few hints here and there so i can use my brain.
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                         the thing that i hate the most is like lida's adventure 0.8 where you run aimlessly for 1.5 hours for nothing. i don't even care about grinding or else, just don't make wonder around
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                     Got it - no aimless wandering for you my friend
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                     If i would provide you with  lets say a time window  and provide you with the info there might be something to be done in a certain area - would you go there and
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                     Thanks for the detailed answer. If i may: Assuming the map itself is known to you but encounters are somewhat random - how often would you max be willing to visit a location before you would expect a result?
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