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## Speaker_0: ##
how do you feel about the grade?
## dogbot: ##
I think it’s accurate for the most part. I could see it in a 64 holder pretty easily based on eye appeal but it has all the characteristics of a 63 Lincoln wheat cent.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Nice find. Surprisingly good shape for sure
## dogbot: ##
Yeah, seems like it wasn’t in the wild for very long.
## Speaker_1: ##
It was in a bucket of change my brothers in-laws gave me for helping them move. I didn't even want to get paid but they insisted, especially after the found out I collect. Most of them were all newer, this was probably the biggest find. I did end up with enough quarters to fill a set or two. Plus a few hours of entertainment going through it all.
## dogbot: ##
Nice!
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## Speaker_0: ##
An 83 foot Canadian nickel?!? Whoa!
## dogbot: ##
Even bigger than [this] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Nickel)
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## Speaker_0: ##
Why is he one of your favs in history?
## Speaker_1: ##
He is really interesting falling in love with an American divorcee, having to abdicate, not just my favourite royal but person.
## dogbot: ##
.. being a big fan of Hitler, all the usual things that make people like other people
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## Speaker_0: ##
I’ve got a couple, wish I had more. Metal detecting some old sites later this month. Never know! Nice coin!
## dogbot: ##
I wish I had places to metal detect in Nevada
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## Speaker_0: ##
looks light it might have been ground down
## dogbot: ##
Raised rims, though. I think u/[Imaginary\_Chemical](https://www.reddit.com/user/Imaginary_Chemical/)'s got it right re a scratched planchet.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Where did you buy this from bud and how much !?
## Speaker_1: ##
You can find [this coin on eBay](https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1818+britanniarum&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&LH_PrefLoc=2&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338535524&customid=co&toolid=10001&mkevt=1), but it's pretty expensive
## dogbot: ##
You can find other examples but you won't find my exact coin
## Speaker_2: ##
Seems to be worth about $20.
## dogbot: ##
Lol, melt is more than that
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## dogbot: ##
Now begs the question, are you going to split it with your coworkers?
## Speaker_0: ##
All the change in that cup goes to me. No one else ever wants it. Idk why. It’s just leftover coins.
Edit: added more to answer.
## dogbot: ##
Do they know what you found?
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## Speaker_0: ##
I wonder if there were others. is the job done?
## dogbot: ##
There wasn’t anything else sadly. I have been finding old currency though! I recently found a 1902 series $10 first national bank of Gordon Nebraska note.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Paimon.
One of the kings of hell from the Lesser Key of Solomon and the Dæmonum.
## dogbot: ##
I could definitely see that being a P, idk how I never made that connection before
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## Speaker_0: ##
It is legal tender, so there's nothing *legally* wrong with spending one.
However, no one who knows what that is would actually spend one. It's $26 worth of silver, and someone mentioned they sell for $80 on eBay (I'm guessing it's actually less).
So that being said, spending one for *air* suggests to me that the customer has stolen someone's coin collection without knowing what he had, and thinks it's just spendable money.
## Speaker_1: ##
Yeah could be. Or inherited it. I met a guy who sold all his uncles coins he found when his uncle died to someone on Craigslist for about $20 more than face value not realizing coins could actually be valuable. Missed out on a few thousand dollars.
## dogbot: ##
My pal picked up 6 gold sovereigns for £12 at a car boot sale...
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## Speaker_0: ##
Wow frosty too! That is worth sending for CAC recertification, that is if you care about grade verification for value purpose only.. I only mention this, because coin dealer's tell me all the time they only recognize the two main grading companies. Well' without a close up photo image it is difficult to discern the grade, but looks amazing and it makes my (PCGS gold shield) 1884 CC MS64 cry; knowing it is more than 3 times its value.
## Speaker_1: ##
I was trying to figure out why you were saying the value was so much more than your 64. Then I realized it's a 65! Makes my 64 PL look like a hobo. Super nice coin.
## dogbot: ##
The devil is in the details 😉
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Did not know this even existed! I bet it was expensive.
## Speaker_0: ##
Actually it was surprisingly affordable
## dogbot: ##
Really? I’m surprised. If you don’t mind me asking what did it cost?
## Speaker_0: ##
I paid 900
## dogbot: ##
That would be a bit much for me but I only make $1200 on a good month so...
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## dogbot: ##
I'm a sentimental guy. So I'll always say yes, you should finish the collection and pass it down. It'll become your kids great grandfather's collection. Though if you do decide to do it, keep in mind that some of the coins you'll need run expensive. But hey, you can do it over a lifetime.
## Speaker_0: ##
Ya i’m debating if I finish the collecting off or pay off my student debt from finishing out my doctorate degree… Tough decision
## Speaker_1: ##
Put the coins away for safe keeping. Pay off your student loan debt first. Then revisit the coins. Start by purchasing the more expensive coins in the set first.
## dogbot: ##
This is the way!
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## Speaker_0: ##
Exposed to extreme heat and surface copper is coming up off the core of the coin is my understanding of these, wouldn't happen at the mint
## Speaker_1: ##
The few other place a post said it could be somthing called plate blistering. Is this common?
## dogbot: ##
Very common, just worth a cent
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this is what is in the box "1950 s to the 8os . The top half of box is all wheats from the 50z and the bottom half is regular Penny's from the 60z to the 80s. Most of both r uncirculated and in absolute prestine condition" he wants $350 for them what do you guys think?
## dogbot: ##
What are you hoping to find? My guess is they've all been cherrypicked already.
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Did NGC actually write "thru" with plenty of room to write "through"?
## dogbot: ##
I guess they just standardized “thru” on all of their holders. I’ve certainly seen them almost run out of space even with each word abbreviated
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## Speaker_0: ##
Nice, congrats!
## dogbot: ##
Thanks! :)
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## Speaker_0: ##
The bulk of things will just be worth melt + a small premium
With gold at ~$1800 for example, your gold buffaloes are worth close to $2K a piece
For the most part, you can look at eBay sold listings to get a good idea of the price, the Morgans are numismatic coins, post front/backs of them and someone can help estimate values as the values of the Morgans (the earlier silver dollars) are more tied into the date/mintmark/condition. Do not clean any coins.
## dogbot: ##
Good info.
Thanks
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## Speaker_0: ##
They are just normal dollar coins
## Speaker_1: ##
That being said, they are uncommon to find circulation because for some reason we Americans just don't like using dollar coins. Somebody (The US Mint? Banks?) has to be sitting in millions of these they can't circulate.
I suspect lots of people collect them, but I'm not sure what kind of demand there will be later if the intent is to resell at a profit.
## Speaker_2: ##
I like dollar coins but they can be heavy if you carry cash. At a place I worked had a vending machine that change would be dollar coins. I was thirsty but only had a 20. I got 18 dollars in dollar coins lol
## Speaker_3: ##
Problem is that one dollar just doesn’t have the same purchase power it used to, it’s high time we got rid of the penny and nickel and increase the denomination on coins.
## Speaker_4: ##
The penny will stop being minted next year.
## dogbot: ##
that was an april fools
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## Speaker_0: ##
This is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a very, very long time. Congratulations!!!
## dogbot: ##
Thanks! The response to this has been so great! I appreciate your upvote and comment!
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## Speaker_0: ##
What country is that from?
## dogbot: ##
United States
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## Speaker_0: ##
Also as a little reward for accepting King Rama IX as your lord and savior, here is one of my [newest acquisitions.](http://imgur.com/a/gJDzb)
## dogbot: ##
I like it! Been keeping an eye out for one since you mentioned it the other day.
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## Speaker_0: ##
No gold... how about some platinum?
## dogbot: ##
I only have palladium :(
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## Speaker_0: ##
Very hard to tell with that Fugio but the British coin looks weird... I wouldn't buy it
## dogbot: ##
Yeah the nose looks off on the half penny. It makes me worry about the fugio.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I don’t know if this is real but I have one I found along time ago but it’s a 1872 but it looks like this one.
## dogbot: ##
An 1872 half dollar would have a similar-ish reverse, but the obverse would be very different with a seated liberty.
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## Speaker_0: ##
10 Reichspfennig from Germany (Third Reich, occupation coinage):
[https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8571.html](https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8571.html)
## dogbot: ##
Thank you a lot, man
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## Speaker_0: ##
Restrikes? Do people really ruin their coins this way? What is the purpose?
## Speaker_1: ##
I don’t think you quite understand what’s going on here.
## dogbot: ##
I certainly don't- could you please explain?
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## Speaker_0: ##
One of my favorite designs, do you have an in-hand photo?
## dogbot: ##
[https://imgur.com/a/0nQdLtz](https://imgur.com/a/0nQdLtz)
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## Speaker_0: ##
Wonder, how much that 1972 DDO worth?
## dogbot: ##
That one was $220, probably about what it's worth with the marks on obverse. Without those probably worth about $300. But it's for a book, so a coin with a little character like that is perfect
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## Speaker_0: ##
yep!
## Speaker_1: ##
I was pretty sure. what material is it made of?
## Speaker_2: ##
If you look on the edge, if you see copper, it’s copper-nickel. If you only see silver, it’s silver.
## Speaker_3: ##
There's no 1987 silver proof Quarter
## dogbot: ##
Well then he'll definitely see copper when he looks at the edge.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Benjamin bunny is face value and I think is the most common coin outside of the shield now.
No mintage figures for Paddington yet but I have a feeling there will be a lot.
## dogbot: ##
Cheers
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## Speaker_0: ##
About $1. Its not a coin. Just a copper round.
## Speaker_1: ##
oh, ok good to know
## dogbot: ##
The reverse says "one ounce .999 fine copper"
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What’s OOTL?
## dogbot: ##
out of the loop
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All are Spanish with the exception of the last bronze coin.
## Speaker_0: ##
Well that was a terrible guess on my part. The 'Hispan' should have been a hint : /. Yeah I have no idea what that last one is. I've had it for ages.
## dogbot: ##
That last coin is probably related to [this](http://hobbyblog.blogspot.com/2003_11_16_archive.html).
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## Speaker_0: ##
1 - William III (Shilling?)
2 - James I (Shilling)
3 - William III (Sixpence?)
4 - Privately made guinea token (probably Victorian)
5 - Charles I shilling
6 - Elizabeth I coin
7 - Anne coin (shilling?)
All are British
## dogbot: ##
english\* only british coin there is the queen anne shilling
2 is a sixpence
6 is also a sixpence
rest are right
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## dogbot: ##
As a general note, foreign coinage grades a lot harsher than US coinage. This coin would probably grade a high G. It appears to have adjustment marks on the reverse, which is no big deal. Luckily it doesn't look like it's been cleaned.
## dogbot: ##
Scratch that, it might have been cleaned, but it looks like its an old cleaning
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## dogbot: ##
Well, keep hunting for upgrades for the folder (for 1959 and beyond especially look for the more uncirculated pieces, but common Wheats are attainable sometimes—just be sure to keep hunting penny boxes). Next step would me Jefferson nickels imo. Most are pretty easy to find. Always look for pieces to upgrade your books, though.
## Speaker_0: ##
I did get 2 Jefferson nickels in change the other day. They were shinny like a proof coin so I put them up.
## dogbot: ##
Please send pics. Will grade for you (accuracy will depend on picture clarity).
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## Speaker_0: ##
Well uh that’s at least 10k worth of coins right there in your hand I would say
## dogbot: ##
I would price the double eagles closer to 2k a piece. Price of gold has come down and the numismatic premium is only a few hundred each.
## Speaker_0: ##
Well yeah and there is 5 there so 5 times 2k is 10k plus I know the graded ones have a bit extra premium which is why I said at least 10k
## dogbot: ##
Oh you’re right, I didn’t see the fifth one on the right there. Not the best picture of something that’s more than a mortgage payment.
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## dogbot: ##
Damn, you have some nice medieval coins there! I can ID them all, but it will take a little bit. Off hand, I know the one on the bottom left is a Henry III penny from England, and the top right is Italian, but will need a few to nail the rest down.
EDIT:
The one with the snake is a 1 Grosso from Milan Itally 1395-1402: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces131999.html
The one with a star is a 1 Batzen from Germany 1522-1530: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces95106.html
Here is a link to the Henry III Penny: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces84082.html
Still working on the last one.
## Speaker_0: ##
they look cast, only that penny looks real
## dogbot: ##
I disagree. I think they are just cleaned. I don't see any evidence of casts. Shapes are too irregular, details don't look mushy, and these arent exactly coins that someone would take the time to fake. Better pictures would settle it for sure.
## Speaker_0: ##
3 coins from 3 different mints, periods and with a different silver content will never look the same even cleaned, also on that grosso there appears to be a seam on the edge, details are not very good
## dogbot: ##
I don't like to jump to those conclusions only because of the lighting and blurry pics. If he takes better pics of the groso and batzen, the surfaces will tell us for sure.
## Speaker_1: ##
Here are some hopefully better [pictures ](https://imgur.com/a/IELMFAN)
I checked them with a neodymium magnet. They are not magnetic at all.
## dogbot: ##
See, in this picture, the Henry penny looks the same color as the rest of the coins. Are you using an LED light source? It could be washing these out in the pics. It is also making the surfaces look really weird. These are all really small coins, so its hard to tell for sure. Best bet, take them to your LCS and have someone look at them. I won't make a judgement call on them, even though some of the other folks probably would be very dubious of their authenticity.
## Speaker_1: ##
Yes it’s a led. The penny is darker the other ones look really similar. And two of them have a seam on the side...
## dogbot: ##
Well, that isn't a good sign at all.
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There’s actually a nice little coin shop at a Baie d'Hudson in Montreal, it surprised me when I was there but sounds like it wasn’t the first department store to do this
## Speaker_0: ##
Where? The main one on Ste.-Catherine? Maybe I'll go the next time I'm in town!
## dogbot: ##
That’s the one! It’s on one of the upper floors
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## Speaker_0: ##
Looks cool,what is it exactly?
## dogbot: ##
It’s a strict through error that’s pretty saught after!
## Speaker_1: ##
How commonplace is this? Do I realistically have a chance at finding one?
## dogbot: ##
Everyone has a chance! Just have to keep hunting!
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## Speaker_0: ##
We should have a ‘world Wednesday’ or ‘foreign Friday’ just to see more variation on this subreddit
## Speaker_1: ##
Or, and crazy idea here, people can post whatever they want whenever and not have everything be as themed as a hotel down the road from Disney world.
## Speaker_0: ##
If there’s a day for toners then there can definitely be an opportunity to see international coins
## Speaker_1: ##
And that’s my point. Why does there need to be a day where toned coins are highlighted. There absolutely doesn’t.
## dogbot: ##
You’re right, there absolutely doesn’t. There doesn’t need to be a lot of things that people enjoy, and yet we have them and they’re great.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Did you see u/dirtydeedsinc there? Two post apart, two mentions of the Smithsonian.
## dogbot: ##
I don’t think so- but if he saw a guy wearing a bucket hat and an Earthbound t-shirt, it was probably me!
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Quite an amazing collection. There seem to be two types of collectors, those that amass massive collections and those who have more smaller focused collections. I am the second type. My collection is constantly shrinking from what inherited but growing in rarity and quality. Every coin in my collection has a purpose for a set I am working on and if not it goes in my for sale bin. My for sale bin is overflowing at the moment however.
## Speaker_1: ##
quantity vs quality. i would rather have a smaller high quality collection than a massive low quality collection. above all else, a massive high quality collection
## dogbot: ##
This video I swear is all junk coins tbh. Pennies is just one trip to a bank. The rest is just buying up large lots of stuff online and can have his entire collection with like 20 grand and a few minutes online. No fun.
Theres a third type. Quantity and Quality. I collect en masse, but have a focused side collection for quality :p Bags of woorld coins, hundreds of 2x2's but then quite a few rarities too which i keep seperate. God I can't wait till I get back from Canada in March and show you guys the new additions to my collection :)
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50 years of wear. Possibly a sandblaster
## dogbot: ##
Wear is *generally* pretty even. This definitely looks blasted.
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## dogbot: ##
That's a dumb story. These are bad tourist fakes and you either know it or you've been had.
## Speaker_0: ##
Shut the front door please.
Don't start pointing fingers , i am a first timer here and i am telling the truth as i have no reason to lie !
## dogbot: ##
I've read stories like these a thousand times on ancient coin forums. Sometimes the poster admits he didn't actually find these coins himself, but bought it from some local who totally found them, sometimes the poster insists mthe story is true. Apparently, it's not uncommon for locals to guide tourists to spots where they have planted these fakes that they then 'find' in front of the tourist. In the end, it doesn't matter. No story makes these fakes genuine though.
## Speaker_0: ##
I am sorry to tell you that I don't care about you assumptions.
I am a syrian guy born in Damascus, and I won't allow myself to stand in a defensive position while you are pointing fingers at me calling me a liar.
I just want to know from experts whether they are genuine or fake.
Thanks for being kind you made my day
## dogbot: ##
Despite your pretend outrage, they're fake. I'm not basing this on your story, as I wrote, the story doesn't matter. I'm basing this on the picture you posted showing one side of a clearly fake coin.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Sorry both pictures didn't upload here is the obverse http://imgur.com/a/dJrHS
## dogbot: ##
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this coin is counterfeit. The lettering and designs are very far from authentic.
Edit: Compare it to an authentic coin found [here](http://www.ebay.com/itm/1799-Draped-Bust-dollar-PCGS-VF25-/391198556441?) and you will see the faults in this coin. You can also test to see if it sticks to a magnet. If it does, you automatically know it isn't silver
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## Speaker_0: ##
I got quite a few extra I'd be willing to mail ya.
Also like you can do at some banks in Michigan, it doesnt hurt to ask bank tellers id they got any american money you can buy from the til.
## dogbot: ##
Thanks for your mailing offer, but its alright. I'm from Toronto so I think its a big enough city and close enough to the US that the nearby banks should have a fair share of American quarters. Once the coronavirus starts to die down I'll head over and ask them.
I do have a couple others from the 70s and 80s as well as a 52 D, 62 and 64 for silvers
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## dogbot: ##
its a widows mite. the other side have a bunch of grapes or an ear of wheat?
## Speaker_0: ##
To elaborate, this design was used around 134 AD, which was during the ill-fated Bar Kochba uprising against Rome, which lead to the destruction of Jerusalem by the emperor Hadrian. It's the top coin in [this listing.]( https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1189&pos=0&sold=1)
## dogbot: ##
good job with the ID
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## Speaker_0: ##
Hopefully it's a site you're able to return to! Seems you've found a good one.
## dogbot: ##
Yeah! OP, make sure you tell us exactly where you found it so we can... um, steer clear of it and leave it for you? Oh... I mean "." not "?".
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## dogbot: ##
No clue but it makes me happy that you and your dad are into something. You are my "wholesome" for today.
## Speaker_0: ##
Is it wholesome that they got ripped off
## dogbot: ##
😆 some of my best times were complete failures
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## Speaker_0: ##
Wonder what value on this would be? Pretty interesting looking coin, could have been a very neat thing to have glass/transparent coins!
## Speaker_1: ##
the copper 1943 penny is around $80k and there is a possibility of 24 or more of them but only 5 have surfaced, this one just might be the ONLY one intact, so id say $1-1,000,000,000,000 +or- 1,000,000,000, lol
my real guess would be around the 300k range, but who knows...
## Speaker_2: ##
Only way to find out if it goes to auction, that would be quite a sight to see!
## dogbot: ##
I agree. It's an incredible oddball that is also extraordinarily rare. For the collector who already has "everything", this would be the one that starts the most conversations. It doesn't hurt that it's also quite beautiful too. The choice of color for the glass was a good one.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Anyone actually know when the last year for the penny will be?
## dogbot: ##
You struck a nerve Lloyd. Canada ditched their penny and everything is fine. It's just a matter of time before the US stops penny production.
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Oh yeah! Ha! These really are popping up a lot lately.
## dogbot: ##
Legends say the first post on /r/Coins was a Rama IX identification request.
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## dogbot: ##
Here's a coin from every year an American president was assassinated. 1865, Abraham Lincoln by John Wilkes Booth, 1881, James A. Garfield by Charles Guiteau, 1901 William McKinley by Leon Czolgosz, and most recently, 1963, John F. Kennedy by Lee Harvey Oswald.
Crazily enough, my father (who was born in 1959), actually remembers the last!
## Speaker_0: ##
>Crazily enough, my father (who was born in 1959), actually remembers the last!
My grandma was born in '57 and says she remembers JFK's assassination because her parents turned off her cartoons to switch to the news and she was upset that she couldn't keep watching her cartoons.
## dogbot: ##
It's funny, we're probably around the same age (I'm 18 btw), my father was born in 1959, and your grandmother was born in 1957. My father's almost as old as your grandmother! I guess my parents decided to have children late lol
When I was in middle/high school I was the only kid who had a parent who was born in the 1950s 😂
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## Speaker_0: ##
You DO realize that isn't an 1834 dime, don't you?
## dogbot: ##
I'm saying in a recent post I figured out my 1834 dime may be fake, I know the coin in the image here is a 1866 3 cent
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## dogbot: ##
I see the card in the back says 1877-S (XF). Did you get this at your LCS?
EDIT: Well, since you haven't responded, I will just go ahead and drop the bomb. I asked only because I wanted to make sure whomever sold it to you also noted that it has been cleaned. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, so I hope you already were aware. I would say this coin is probably worth about $125-175 in its current condition. If you paid more, you should consider your options.
## Speaker_0: ##
someone new to this here.. trying to learn, but is it the darker areas around the stars and text that give away the cleaning?
## dogbot: ##
That is one primary indicator. There are two others that jumped out at me right away. First, you notice the kind of red/blue almost pixelated edges on all of the devices? That indicates hairline scratches that are catching the light and reflecting it back at different angles. Then, if you zoom in, and try to focus the image with your eye, it is easy to make out parallel hairlines running from about 2 to 8 o'clock.
EDIT: Really bad spelling.
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MS64
## dogbot: ##
Yes! Any more to say on that grade?
## Speaker_1: ##
FB
## dogbot: ##
There it is, 64FB!
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## dogbot: ##
Just picked one up
## Speaker_0: ##
With mintage this low, why is demand not higher? Coin too expensive?
## dogbot: ##
Way too expensive. I posted about that earlier today. All their shit is way too expensive.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Uggg.... Just got out of the first part of the waiting room, now find out I got an estimates 17 minutes before I can shop!! LOL... Oh well, the stuff we do for coins!
## Speaker_1: ##
mine said 17min but it just jumped up to 28! What, am I buying tickets on TicketMaster?
## Speaker_0: ##
mine jumped to 22 minutes!! ARRGGGHHH!! LOL
## dogbot: ##
I blame Obama, I think.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Did you consider the possibility that the coin had been improperly cleaned prior to you having submitted it?
## dogbot: ##
Yes, I always consider that and I never submit coins that have signs of cleaning.
## Speaker_0: ##
Don't get me wrong, I'm sorry you didn't get what you were expecting, but what I'm suggesting is the possibility that the evidence of improper cleaning wasn't evident (either to you or to NGC) prior to the conservation.
## dogbot: ##
Yeah. That is the only reasonable explanation. Still frustrating. Like I said, I am open to my feelings being unfounded. I made this post to get other’s opinion.
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no
## dogbot: ##
No, it is not. It looks like it tho
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1882-CC, bent, PVC, rim damage. Just got it in the mail today.
## Speaker_1: ##
Acetone would get that pvc off
## Speaker_0: ##
You know honestly I think it just adds character. If someone else wants to buy it from me some years down the line they can use acetone, but I just don't feel the need.
## dogbot: ##
If left untreated then some years down the line it will look considerably worse.
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## dogbot: ##
Would you mind sharing your opinion and expectations of two new endeavors in the tpg world?
1. CAC grading, and how you think the market will react to the new slabs and sale prices moving forward.
2. NGCX - "Bold and innovative?" or "gimmicky marketing targeting elderly clients watching qvc"?
## Speaker_0: ##
I know you were asking the guy but I thought the NGCX thing was dumb until I read why they did that and it is because other collections that are graded on a scale of 1 to 10 such as pokemon cards may start collecting coins.
## dogbot: ##
Right…that’s the official story, but just think about that for a second. I collect coins because I love the history attached to them, and the way that they’re made of precious metals, and the designs. I don’t collect baseball cards, comic books, stamps, Pokémon cards because I have no interest in them at all. The grading scale has never stopped me, and if I wanted to collect them I would.
Sure, you can make the argument that someone familiar with the 10 point scale will be more likely to purchase a modern coin with a familiar (to them) grade, but I’m not buying it. Who is that dense that they can’t spend 15 minutes getting acquainted with the grading scale? That’s like saying you refuse to play tennis or golf because you don’t have the time to learn how the game is scored. CCG was bought out by Blackstone in 2021, and NGCX is a marketing gimmick to extract profits from uniformed elderly buyers of the late night infomercial coins, which are normally $129.99, but now marked down to $89.99 for one night only! And it’s a perfect 10.0 graded American Silver Eagle, a performing investment to put away for your grandchildren!
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## Speaker_0: ##
The proof eagle is your most valuable coin. Its a pretty decent beginning collection, nothing special about your dollars, Ikes or halves. Your pennies are called wheat pennies and those tokens under it were in certain uncirculated sets, I think they were struck on penny blanks. The red seal is indeed more valuable than the other $2 bills, the exact value depends on the series, but values are generally very modest in the shape that your note is in.
## Speaker_1: ##
I wouldn't sell it, these are just something I do for fun, not to make profit. I appreciate the info! I decided after doing this to search through my quarters for some valuable ones and found 7 1965 quarters... So close :( but maybe you can shed some light. I was researching (at the time I though the 65's were the silver ones as well) and [this](http://cointrackers.com/coins/496/) site says they are worth up to $1-$8? If this is true I would LOVE to know where I can go to get in on this!
## dogbot: ##
Unfortunately coin trackers is known for having way too high of a value for coins, so your 1965 quarters are still just 25 cents when circulated.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Whats the cert number?
## Speaker_1: ##
I ain't telling you that!
## dogbot: ##
you realize i can find the Certification number without you telling anyone right?
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## Speaker_0: ##
I forget why did they call this one Kellogg? I guess the family owned it at one point?
## dogbot: ##
You will find more info here : https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/category/territorial/california-gold/kellogg-company-1854-1855/1740
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## dogbot: ##
Nice pick up!! Careful, the gold coins are the ones that willget you in trouble. It starts with one and then it's another, you know, just to keep the first one company. Next comes the skipped meals just to afford that sexy $10 eagle that called out to you. Before you know it, you are selling a kidney on the black market just to score some St. Gaudens Double Eagle that doesn't even have the common decency to wear a motto. Oh the madness.... Nice coin!
## Speaker_0: ##
Thanks! Just in case, how much does a used kidney go for?
## dogbot: ##
Not sure what the going rate is today. I sold my right kidney for my 09 UHR and the silly doctors keep telling me I need to keep the other one.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Why **Emergency Production** ?
## dogbot: ##
In April the Philly Mint was authorized to mint 240k of these due to the pandemic and people buying up silver during it, the ASE's are pretty popular bullion coins.
## Speaker_0: ##
Year ago, I bought some steel pennies from a company that also sent me an ASE. I could send the money for the ASE or return the coin. I put it in the included envelope and thought I mailed it back. I found it a few weeks ago behind my dresser. I opened the envelope and it has a few black spots on it now. I am guessing it is only worth scrap value now?
## dogbot: ##
Those would be carbon spots. They can affect the grade and value, but you'll still get spot on it for the silver content.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Fake as the work day is long friend. You got hoodwinked
## Speaker_1: ##
Darn I'm only out $2 then! Got these back as change. I feel bad for the cashier that accepted them!
## dogbot: ##
Fakes are worth more than a dollar a piece. Cool novelty to have.
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## Speaker_0: ##
You ate it?!
## dogbot: ##
He’s trying to increase his silver content
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## Speaker_0: ##
Out side of 2x2s I like onfireguy capsules
## dogbot: ##
Onfireguy sells Air-tite brand capsules. So, you can get the same capsules straight from the manufacturer. Sometimes onfireguy has better prices, but the selection in more limited.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Completely normal, even desirable in some cases
## dogbot: ##
Can you explain please how and when its desirable
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## Speaker_0: ##
Don't worry - coins of differing metals touching each other won't cause corrosion. What will cause corrosion:
Exposure to humitidy
Exposure to extreme temperatures
Exposure to oil from your skin (why you should always hold coins by the edge)
Exposure to PVC (the chemical in certain plastics that makes new shower curtains smell the way they do) - this is an important one, because many old coin album pages (like the ones that held 2x2) or soft, cheap coin flips contain PVC. This will eventually cause a gooey green slime on your coins that, if left on, will form a hard green crust that will eat into the surfaces of your coins.)
Exposure to sulfur or other elements/chemicals usually in cardboard or paper (yes, this may cause extremely attractive toning, but eventually will turn the coins black or brown.)
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And other similar things.
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If your coins are circulated, chances are they already have something on the surface (most likely skin oils) that will eventually cause corrosion if left unchecked. Improper cleaning will ruin the coin anyway, so it's basically a choice you make of leave them alone vs. try to properly conserve them to remove surface contaminants (I won't go into that.) Chances are, though, that common, circulated coins won't have their value significantly improved by conservation - but they can be good practice fodder.
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To answer your question, your container is most likely fine to keep the type of coins you have stored in them relatively safe. It's good for organization and is inexpensive.
But if the room where they are stored is humid, or has extreme temperature changes, or if you store them with other chemicals mentioned above - unless that container is airtight the coins will eventually corrode.
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Hope that helps!
## dogbot: ##
You. Are. Awesome.
## Speaker_0: ##
We all are somewhere along a path at any given point in our lives, and none of us got where we are without the assistance/guidance/mentoring of others who remember just starting out. I'm happy that I at least have something helpful to say and the opportunity to share it!
I wish you the best of luck with the hobby!
## dogbot: ##
Thank you! God bless:)
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## Speaker_0: ##
The Simpson’s didn’t exist in 1776 just like Charles III didn’t. These aren’t even passable fakes.
## dogbot: ##
Charles III was king in 1776.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Rarely do I see gold ancients posted anywhere, this obe looks especially nice. Where did you get it from?
## dogbot: ##
Go on a few metal detecting groups on fb. We find them quite often here in England.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Hopefully didn't pay MS68 prices for maybe an MS58 coin.
## dogbot: ##
Mint state starts at 60
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## Speaker_0: ##
I hate it when people deface coins.
## Speaker_1: ##
Lolol his picture is him using a super common coin of which over 513 MILLION were minted. Are you really that hurt over something that common?? Seriously. It's not like he's cutting a coin that even a strong numismatist would find value in.
## Speaker_0: ##
I can't tell what the coin is. For all I know it's a St. Gaudens double eagle. I still it hate it when people deface coins and this posts like should go to another sub. JMHO.
## dogbot: ##
It's clearly a Montana State quarter
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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm like 90% sure there was a Simpsons episode about this
## dogbot: ##
It was a trillion dollar bill that was printed after ww2 that mr Burns stole and home has to help steal after committing tax evasion, but then homer has a change of heart and helps burns escape to Cuba where the bill is stolen by Fidel castro
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## Speaker_0: ##
Peer pressure, mostly. I don’t wanna be the only kid on the block without an 1881-S VF Morgan.
## Speaker_1: ##
That's a good point, I often get stuffed into lockers because kids found out that I don't have a 1909-S VDB.
## dogbot: ##
Or a 1943 S Copper penny! Amirite???
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## Speaker_0: ##
It's a dime
## Speaker_1: ##
And not just ANY dime - it's a [Wing-head Willy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_dime) dime!
## dogbot: ##
well.. that solves my shitty mystery
thanks /r/coins
that was swift
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## Speaker_0: ##
Let’s see the reverse!
## dogbot: ##
Here’s the reverse. [reverse](https://imgur.com/a/kER1Xsz)
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## dogbot: ##
I would say maybe $70-$80, it is kind of hard to see the details with the big glare though.
## Speaker_0: ##
More than that cause i bot it for 130
## dogbot: ##
My view is just an estimate, however $130 is still much more than I believe it is worth. Coins that are bought from dealers that do not specialize in ancients are usually overpriced.
## Speaker_0: ##
Ampex
## dogbot: ##
Looking at the roman coins they have for sale, they are wildly overpriced. I am seeing $5 late roman bronzes go for $40. If you want to get better deals on ancients, I would suggest vcoins.com, or going to a local coin show.
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## Speaker_0: ##
No.
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What do you recommend?
## dogbot: ##
Completed ebay listings are a good way to see what coins are selling for. As price guides go i personally use NGC's and PCGS's price guides, though they only apply to coins graded by the companies so if you are buying/selling raw coins expect a lower price than what is listed.
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## dogbot: ##
Modern replicas. First looks like an Anglo-Saxon coin. Dunno about the second, but it's luster is definitely modern.
## Speaker_0: ##
My friend said he polished and cleaned them ( not being a collector he didnt know he shouldnt). He’s more an archeologist so i think there’s a fair chance these are genuine. Any more signs of them being replicas except for luster?
## dogbot: ##
Never seen an ancient or medieval coin cleaned so thoroughly that they give such impeccable luster.
It's also striking they the coins show no sign of wear from culirculation. Finally, the die styles look very unlike something minted ages ago and more like modern museum replicas.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Is that a bunch of silver? Maybe a kid cashed in their dad's or granddad's coin collection.
## Speaker_1: ##
Yes a bunch of silver coins. Yea an old relative may have passed and they cashed in his coin jar. Sad.
## dogbot: ##
My FIL just passed and we have all the collectibles. He was a collector and he went through his change every day . If it was just regular coins they went in ammo cans . Cashed in $1300.00 a couple of day’s ago. Have about a hundred lbs of Silver
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## Speaker_0: ##
In all seriousness, I'm purposefully hunting low grade graded coins to put together a set of slabs from Poor-01 to MS-67. It's difficult to find low grade coins unless you get key dates, and of I can buy a coin for less than it would cost me to grade one of my own I consider it a victory.
## Speaker_1: ##
Hmm...you're reminding me I haven't posted my 1795 50c in FA02
## dogbot: ##
Do it I want to see!
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## dogbot: ##
Korea has a large number of dollar sized cash coins intended to be used as payments to government roles soldier's pay, treasury officials etc
They can be about $80 at most.
## dogbot: ##
And while not 16th or 17th century
The Chinese empire issued dragon copper coins that are rather cheap & plentiful the average cost is $5 to $40 in circulation condition the Kwang-tung ten cash is one of the most common issues and is affordable.
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## dogbot: ##
Blast white, barely any marks or scratches on the coin. I bought this coin for $20 a few months ago on eBay and I’m glad that I did, I just love looking at it.
I hope you all enjoy it too :)
## Speaker_0: ##
That blast white is really impressive! Nice purchase.
## dogbot: ##
Thank you! I’m glad you like it.
## Speaker_0: ##
I just glanced at an auction site and there are multiple MS67 specimens for sale; asking anywhere from $32 to $58
## dogbot: ##
That’s pretty sweet! However, PCGS ValueView has a bunch of 67s auctioned for anywhere from $13 to $40, and 68s up to $100. Even then though, I like this coin too much to part with it given how much I paid, unless I got a pretty nice offer.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Quite a number of years ago when I lived in NYC, I had a fairly valuable collection. I was tempted to join a coin club to show it off. I decided not to, nor did I ever show the collection to anyone except for my wife.
Result: It wasn't stolen.
## dogbot: ##
Could you try to be more patronizing?
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## dogbot: ##
To put it in perspective I’ve looked through tens of thousands of nickel rolls, plus all of my pocket change over 50+ years and I’ve never found one
## Speaker_0: ##
Too be fair, banks would rarely ever have these as is. The machines would sort them out and they’d have to remove them from circulation.
Edit: I’ve been proven wrong. Don’t listen to me.
## dogbot: ##
I’m not sure how that would work. Real unstruck nickel planchet are the exact same size, weight, and composition as a struck coin. To a counting and rolling machine they ARE a nickel.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I've got 6 (non-variety) wheaties left to collect to have a completed set, and of course this one is one I need. How much you paid for it, if you don't mind me asking (so I can a rough idea as to how much I should expect to pay if/when I ever find one in person)?
## dogbot: ##
I paid $180, but I think I got a pretty good deal. PCGS price guide says $265. I’d expect to pay around $200 if you’re looking for Fine condition.
## Speaker_1: ##
There was a 1944d that was counterfeited to be a 1914d in my collection; a fact I embarassingly did not know until I went to a coin show to have it checked out and alas, its a forgery :( now Im back to 6 wheaties to go
## dogbot: ##
Precisely why I bought a slabbed one.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Interesting to see an African wearing the [Prince of Wales's feathers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales%27s_feathers) and "Ich Dien" translated into English. Any reason they decided to do this?
## dogbot: ##
Combination patriotism and a romanticisation of the island's slavery. All I could find was that it was privately commissioned, so it might be this:
In 1788, at about the same time as some of the newly formed American states were coining coppers, a penny size copper, was minted in England for Barbados. The token is thought to have been privately commissioned by Phillip Gibbs, a local plantation owner. The obverse depicts a the national symbol, a pineapple, with the legend "Barbadoes Penny" and the date 1788. The reverse displays a bust of an African wearing a plumed crown and the legend "I serve".
Link:
https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Barbados.intro.html
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## Speaker_0: ##
I don't see why anyone would fake this, but isn't there supposed to be a qr code on the back?
## Speaker_1: ##
That was I was saying, the rattlers all off from what I’m seeing. But at 32 bucks why would if be a counterfeit
## dogbot: ##
Perhaps it was encapsulated before QR codes were prevalent
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## Speaker_0: ##
Awwwwwwwwww. Cmon. YGTBK. Could only be a museum piece if authentic.
## dogbot: ##
This is not true. Tens of thousands of Athens tetradrachms are available to buy. Many of them in a condition comparable to this poor fake.
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## Speaker_0: ##
For anyone saying this is dangerous, it was a 1920s train and it was going quite slow
## dogbot: ##
Can it be dangerous because at high speed the coin can become a bullet? I definitely squished a couple cents on tracks when I was a kid.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I don't know about Charlestown, but many (or most?) museums worldwide display reproductions rather than original coins. I'm not sure why, I'd guess that it's for reasons of preservation and insurance, but I could be wrong.
There are long-established companies to supply them, e.g. [http://www.dorchesters.com/](http://www.dorchesters.com/)
My girlfriend's Cornish, I've been to Charlestown a few times, it's lovely. I'd bet that many people reading this sub have seen it, it's appeared as a film location in a lot of big productions.
## dogbot: ##
Ah okay that's interesting. They did have some genuine gold coins in other cabinets but perhaps they mix a few replicas in there for the reasons you say. Thank you!
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## Speaker_0: ##
Estados Unidos Mexicanos > United Mexican States
## dogbot: ##
Tu tienes un basico comprenda de la language Espanola?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Why didn't you send it to a legit grading service?
## dogbot: ##
Only Anacs will grade restrikes. Just like the other guy said. Plus they were willing to make the nice customs holders and everything. They’re a legit grading service. They may not be as highly respected as NGC and PCGS, but they’re definitely the next tier down. Their grades are respected by most people
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