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12:01 AM
@badp You sure do like that song.
I can't say I disagree. The music video is very well done.
I'm off, time to get some sleep
@Wipqozn That really depends on the age of the viewer...
@GnomeSlice Yeah, I thought the same thing when I see it, but I still find it an amusing image.
Also, @GnomeSlice, ever take a look at that video I posted earlier?
Seems like something you'd enjoy.
Didn't listen to much of it, might at some point.
IT's fairly good. Good for doing work to I found.
12:16 AM
@FAE Fraidy cat!
@OrigamiRobot Or dignity keeper. Which is it really?
@FAE That's never stopped you before ;)
@OrigamiRobot oh snap
@OrigamiRobot Hush you
@FAE Fond of your dignity?
12:25 AM
@Fluttershy based on past conversations, obviously not
@OrigamiRobot I don't know what this means.
@Fluttershy Yea but she does and that's what counts.
@OrigamiRobot I require an example.
@Fluttershy I don't have access to all my past steam chats :P
Hello internet
12:28 AM
Join the party (or lack thereof)
@OrigamiRobot Lies I say.
@FAE I'm sure you do
@OrigamiRobot I do indeed, good sir.
12:53 AM
Q: How long does my MEGU pet have until it dies?

Ben BrockaMegu pets can apparently "starve" or die or something now, they have a Health Meter which slowly falls and only refills when you feed them. When it runs out, they're supposed to die. What's the longest period of time my Megu pet will survive without food, assuming he starts with a full Health ba...

@James Not yet, they've said they're focusing on items to start. But they've made it sound like they will add it in the future.
@James It was a butterfly dragon.
@Fluttershy utterly butterfly
@FAE You and your muscle memory.
Ugggghhhh 12 hour work days suck.
1:03 AM
oh my god. How fucking hard is it to find a cocktail dress. Commence tantrum: Why. Why. Why. I hate it.
@Fluttershy whheee
@spugsley #firstworldproblems
@Fluttershy I'm aware
@spugsley, no punching until she's 3 months old at least. new doctor requirements, sorry.
@agent86 pshh. When I was her age, I was already getting punched in the face!
1:08 AM
> For more on the subject of why Meta Tags are awful and are tantamount to the eating of babies, see
Too much?
@spugsley they just don't make em like they used to :(
@agent86 yeah. Babies today. Weak.
@spugsley back in my day, we got punched in the face both ways in the snow, and we liked it!
@agent86 I'm in, but only if I get to be the engineer
@agent86 Have you downloaded your D3 installer?
@LessPop_MoreFizz Not enough I say.
@Fluttershy You may like this:
1:19 AM
@Wipqozn pretty
@LessPop_MoreFizz But... uh... armband?
%^&^ing magnets
@LessPopMoreFizz Re: your Meta discussion meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4638/…
@LessPopMoreFizz Can we maintain the special exception for iOS and legacy platforms?
Or even just iOS?
@EBongo You should read it more closely.
> Additionally, platform tags may be used as a 'tag of last resort' for games which have only one question asked about them on the entire site.
That's basically what the iOS use case is.
1:24 AM
@LessPopMoreFizz Hmm... I guess that at least maintains the special exception. If I had may way, they'd all be tagged iOS, even when a game tag existed.
@EBongo But that's not even how things are done now.
is kind of like in some ways: we have and as specific instances of ios.
@LessPopMoreFizz True, but you are proposing a change in policy.
It's always annoyed me.
(It's actually quite inconsistent at the moment, to the point of being kind of maddening.)
1:25 AM
Oh yes, I've always hated it.
@EBongo Also, people haven't bothered to propose an alternative, but I'm not 100% committed to the policy I'm proposing - I'm fairly adamant about the problems with the status quo, but I'm perfectly open to alternative tagging schema
@Brant Both of those latter two are actually synonomized to .
Yes, well I wanted to discuss. I don't really want to propose a full alternative, I agree with most of what you have. It's the iOS special case that I'd like to see partially changed.
@LessPop_MoreFizz oh, I wasn't aware that was done.
Shows how much attention I've been paying lately. :(
@Brant was done over a year ago
I had a separate thought too though. If questions are not platform specific, then who get's the check? Up to the OP of course, but in cases where the answer varies by platform? I suppose you intend to cover that with split game tags though.
1:29 AM
@EBongo Check means it helped the asker, not that it is the 'best' per se.
@EBongo split game tags should only be needed for cases where versions of a game are dramatically different.
Like, FF4->FF4 Advance-> FF4 DS are all very different games in a number of important ways and should have distinct tags for questions that are in some way not relevant across the various releases.
@LessPopMoreFizz Hmm... maybe I'm over thinking it. So console specific questions would still be aloud, but without the console tag?
@EBongo 1) allowed. please. (pet peeve.)
@FAE <insert dramatic re-entrance here>
1:33 AM
Friggin' dolphins.
@EBongo 2) you are definitely over thinking it. I mean, what sort of console specific questions are we talking about here? I'd advise you to take a look at the existing uses of the platform tags. The vast majority of even 'appropriate' uses fall in to one of three categories:
Q: Is there a quick way to ready up, besides pressing the crystal

EBongoAfter running all around the level, it is annoying to have to have each player run all the way back to the crystal. Is there any quick "ready up" button? I'm looking for a solution specific to the Xbox 360 version of the game - not using an Xbox 360 controller on the PC.

Q: Activate the crystal from far

Fredy31When I'm setting defenses at the other side of the map, is there a way to activate the crystal from far away, letting me kill enemies at the gate without running back-and-forth?

a) questions about the games interaction with the platform itself. Examples include questions about save game migration, or installation, or interaction with specific hardware features, like Kinect. These questions should still receive the platform tag. nothing changes for them.
@LessPopMoreFizz A dupe under the new policy?
b) Questions that are basically normal questions, but the asker is attempting to narrow the range of available answers by ruling out answers that are specific to a particular platform, such as using the tag as shorthand for "I DON'T WANT A MOD".
1:35 AM
g'night Bridge
@FAE Good night FAE
Although I'm certain it's early morning for you...:P
@EBongo Arguable. However, platform tags are inappropriate, since a 360 controller can be used on the PC.
Unless the latter question were rephrased to add "when controlling the game with keyboard and mouse" and a new question were asked "with a 360 controller" for example.
But it could also be duped and phrased in such a way as to invite both answers.
@EBongo See for example:
Q: How do I manipulate objects?

Raven DreamerIn Oblivion, you could grab objects with the Z-key, or the Telekinesis spell. I've tried the Z key in Skyrim, but couldn't seem to grab anything. And then I see this: ...

We have a bunch of questions about controls in cross-platform titles that get good 'generic' answers that are applicable across the board.
Anyone get a grant email yet?
@Sterno Nope.
I didn't apply for it mind you, but still!
1:39 AM
@Sterno Negative.
Any other Settlers of Catan fans in here?
I wish they'd do notices on the meta post when the winner emails go out so you aren't still sitting there wondering if you won or not
@Fluttershy Yes
> This question is too narrow in scope for our Q&A format. We expect questions to provide some value to future visitors; this question would only apply to an extraordinarily narrow situation or set of circumstances. Please see the FAQ for more guidance.
Hows that for a new too localized close reason?
1:40 AM
I'd love to play with you sometime as well @Fluttershy, but Arma II is just about to finish installing...so I'm going to play DayZ :P
@Wipqozn Do you have an account at playcatan.com ?
@Fluttershy I'll make one now. So when I am free to play I can start right away.
This was because I'm lazy
@Wipqozn I just downloaded that last night. Haven't had a chance to try it yet
@MarkTrapp Extraordinarily narrow situation, timeframe, or geographic area. IMO.
@LessPopMoreFizz Ah... so a good answerer will need to research answers for all platforms.
1:41 AM
@Sterno It's almost finished for me. It's been taking awhile to install. Arma II that is.
@Wipqozn Should edit that one more time.
@EBongo a great answerer would need to, sure. A 'good' answerer might not.
I actually might have an account on there already
@LessPop_MoreFizz I think the addition of timeframe and geographic area is what trips people up. Like people closing questions because they ask about Montreal or a game that just launched
@MarkTrapp 'extraordinarily narrow' is the key phrase.
@MarkTrapp But I agree that that is what trips people up as well.
1:43 AM
@LessPopMoreFizz Sorry about the "aloud". I'm not normally that grammatically retarded, but I have to type fast to keep up with you. :)
Then again, I don't like Too Localized for all kinds of reasons. There are very few questions that are legitimately closable as too localized that can't be closed for some other reason.
@EBongo You are competing against a terrible typist being smokscreened by autocorrect.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah. We were talking about it earlier, and @OrigamiRobot mentioned the close reason as worded right now is bad. Posted an MSO question about it where I was asked to come up with a better one
I just kind of randomly mash keys in the general right spot and it usually comes out okay.
@Wipqozn Well, my account is active. I just used it today. =D
@Fluttershy I just signed up. I'm just waiting on the activation email.
1:44 AM
@MarkTrapp Yeah, I saw it.
So I should be able to play tomorrow if I am around.
@Wipqozn Sounds good. @Blem beat me in a game today. But it was fun.
Is a question about how to install a specific mod for a game on-topic?
@Sterno Don't see why not. Some mods are stupidly complicated to install.
@Sterno Future users could find that useful.
1:47 AM
I want to play a PS2 game... Someone suggest something.
@Sterno DayZ? :P
@Fluttershy Are you actually asking or suggesting an off-topic use case?
@skovacs1 I'm actually asking.
@Fluttershy Shadow of the Collossus.
@Wipqozn Yeah. Though looking at it I think it's just "Copy files into directory"
1:48 AM
@Wipqozn I was thinking about that today, actually.
I hate when you need like 8 files for a mod and they all get slapped in different files for individual download!
@Sterno Yeah, basically. It's simple if you know what to do.
@Sterno Yeah, I don't understand why they did that.
Each one is a rar too. Why not just package them all in one larger rar?
@Fluttershy Shadow Hearts? Drakengard? Maybe Rogue Galaxy?
@skovacs1 Shadow Hearts <3
@skovacs1 I've heard of two of those...
1:50 AM
@Fluttershy BoF 5, Dragon Quarter
@Fluttershy My collection is vast. I have many more. Radiata Stories? Odin SPhere? The Bouncer?
@Wipqozn Yeah. And @dayz is a really weird directory name.
Yes it is.
everybody needs to play breath of fire 5 it breaks all the rules and is awesome and totally not like any other breath of fire game and really very remarkable and awesome and short and great and cool.
@skovacs1 was rouge galaxy good? Looked good, and it was made by the same people as Dark Cloud 2, one of my favorites
1:51 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I agree with this statement.
I was thinking of continuing my playthrough of Suikoden 3...
@skovacs1 Seriously, most underrated PS2 game of them all.
My current On Deck list (occasionally interrupted by an Important New Release like D3) is: Finish Xenoblade-> Replay Witcher 1+2 for EE-> Bof5
First time set-up for ARMA 2 is taking forever.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Is there a website to keep track of things such as this?
@Fluttershy I hadn't even gotten to listing the Long-standing series' such as SMT, Persona, Suikoden, Kingdom Hearts, Ratchet & Clank, Jack & DAxter, MGS, Disgaea, etc
1:54 AM
Babylon of Five?
@skovacs1 Can't play Kingdom hearts, as my copy is loaned out to a close friend. Don't own Persona, Ratchet, or Jak... Do still need to beat Disgaea though.
There we go.
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, known in Japan as , is a PlayStation 2 (PS2) game originally released on November 14, 2002. It is the fifth role-playing game (RPG) in the Breath of Fire series. Gameplay Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is a role-playing video game that takes drastic deviations from previous games in the series, and is the first to be presented using fully three-dimensional graphics for both characters and environments. As players progress through the game, they must travel upward through a network of tunnels while battling enemies and collecting keys in order to advance. T...
Now time to go try and not get killed in a zombie apocalyse.
@Fluttershy I'm sure there is, but mine is called ToDo.txt
1:55 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Fair enough.
@BenBrocka I enjoyed it - it's an RPG and less action-y than some would like so if that suits your tastes, then yes.
@Wipqozn I already found the answer how to install it and launch it on youtube, but I figured it was worth putting here for handy SEO. Plus, I hate having to watch videos to get an answer. If you've already installed the mod and want to answer, here's the question for it
@Sterno I youtubed it as well, although I just ran into an error.
think I needed to wait until it di first time start up.
@Fluttershy I keep a spreadsheet of all my games. There are 100s of them. I just mark the ones I finish.
I'm about to play The Secret World beta with my wife so I probably won't get to try Day Z until tomorrow :(
1:58 AM
@skovacs1 I don't own as many games as I used to, and the ones I do own, I've beaten 3 times or more.
@Fluttershy You should try to get a cheap copy of Dragon Quarter.
Because it's really really amazing.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'll keep an eye out for it.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I agree with this statement. And you can get it really cheap. I think I picked mine out of a bargain sale for like $10-$20. If you want to order it, you can try estarland, I've had nothing but happy times ordering from them.
@skovacs1 Meh, it's 12.99 new on Amazon:
and 3.55 used!
I mean honestly, the game is THREE DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS. JUST GET IT.
@LessPop_MoreFizz fair enough. I just find Amazon's markup on shipping to be a lot higher than estarland on average.
I didn't check amazon before you posted it.
2:05 AM
Oh hey, I even have that game. Played an hour of it
@Fluttershy Oh, Kingdom Hearts. I should get back to that, if the roommate ever stops using the TV XD
@MarkTrapp You should play more of it because it's pretty goddamned awesome.
@AshleyNunn Take your time. =P
The use of scarcity in the game, the fact that every step you take counts... it's like a survival horror rpg in some ways
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's on the list of things to get around to before the Eschaton. I have far too many unfinished and barely started console games on my shelf
2:07 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't... I don't have $3.55....
BoF3 is still unplayed too
@MarkTrapp Yea, but BoF3 is terrible.
@Fluttershy Thanks :) But I mostly just miss playing because OMG so much FUN
if I remember correctly, that's the one where you find out that one of your companions is actually basically the second coming of god in the form of a giant talking onion.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Wait, what?
2:09 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I think the PSP version plays slightly better which is why I ordered it from Europe.
In other words, like the other first 4 BoF games, it makes the J in JRPG bolder and more pronounced and obvious and total than any other JRPG ever.
@skovacs1 I didn't even know it ever got a PSP release.
Really? I vaguely recall someone or something saying it was a PS classic. I picked it up on launch and never got around to even opening the shrink-wrap
@LessPop_MoreFizz Didn't come to NA for whatever reason, hence why I had to ship from overseas.
@MarkTrapp a lot of people love the first 4 BoF games, but they are basically the most cliche'd jrpgs ever, and thats before you factor in that the series has a huge pile of it's own cliches and tropes that make even Final Fantasy's cliches look reasonable.
They can be fun, if you're into that sort of thing, as I was some 15 years ago, but it's definitely something very much for fans of the genre.
And the plots are, for the most part, enormously silly.
@AshleyNunn Breath of fire plots are dumb
@LessPop_MoreFizz Don't they generally revolve around the main character becoming a dragon?
2:12 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I am getting that impression
@MarkTrapp Yeah, the main character always has the ability to turn into a dragon.
@AshleyNunn bof.wikia.com/wiki/Peco The God Onion.
@LessPop_MoreFizz This makes my brain hurt
@MarkTrapp BoF 5 is cool because that ability is basically a tightly controlled resource.
You can use it any time as an instant I Win button, but the longer you stay in that form or the more often you use it, the closer you come to a game over.
So you have to ration it over the course of the game.
Huh. When you mentioned scarcity, I thought you were talking about FF8's "abilities are essentially limited-use items" which sucked. But that sounds intriguing
@MarkTrapp It's really fucking well done.
Basically, you have a meter that can go up to 100%.
And every step you take, makes it go up a little.
And when you use some abilities, it goes up A LOT.
And you need to pace yourself through the game.
2:17 AM
Q: How do I install and play the Day Z mod for Arma 2?

SternoI'd like to install and play the Day Z mod for Arma 2, but the web page for the mod doesn't give very specific instructions. Simply dropping the .rar files into the specified directories seems to be insufficient. I'd like a step by step process for installing and launching this mod. I purchased ...

@MarkTrapp That said, the game also has a really clever 'new game plus' system of sorts, wherein a game over basically sends you back to the start with all of your levels gained and several other advantages - certain areas are only accessible by retraversing.
The save system is similarly scarce.
@LessPop_MoreFizz That's pretty cool. I like games that do that, but you only really see that in arcade-y games
You get a limited number of 'actual' save games. You can suspend at any time, but you can only save in specific locations, and it costs a scarce token to do so.
@MarkTrapp Like I said, it breaks all the rules.
2:19 AM
Jello waffle.
@AshleyNunn Is it waffle flavored? Or just waffle shaped?
@Fluttershy The far stack is apparently waffle with syrup flavoured
and hte front stack is blueberry waffle flavoured
I cant decide if they would be tasty
or really horrifying
@AshleyNunn Probably horrifying... I feel jello on my tongue, I expect fruit.
@Fluttershy This is true. Or alcohol.
Or that.
2:22 AM
@Fluttershy Actually that kind of surprise can be quite nice. I really liked the curry-flavoured ice cream, meat-flavoured juicy-fruit-style candy, and beer flavoured hard candy that I had in Japan.
@skovacs1 I'm not a fan of surprises.
@skovacs1 meat candy? Odd. But like candied bacon is nice, so maybe it would not be so bad
But I really dont like curry so the ice cream would be a no go
@Fluttershy .....what the crap is this
@AshleyNunn I also had some violet-flavoured ice-cream too if curry's not your thing. I am personally not terribly fond of any curry except the Japanese curry, which is sweet and rich and delicious.
2:27 AM
@skovacs1 violet, like the flower? How would that taste?
@AshleyNunn Yes. Not bad. I had something similar at some special 300+ ice cream place in Vancouver (the garlic ice cream was interesting there, but their curry ice cream is the indian variety so I wasn't really wowed by it).
@skovacs1 Garlic ice cream? Oy.
I like my ice cream sweet and fruity personally
@AshleyNunn Which is why I like the Japanese curry and that flavour of ice cream - it's sweet and sometimes with a fruity hint of apple.
@skovacs1 Fair enough :) I will stick with strawberry.
here it is, meat flavoured candy:
2:36 AM
@AshleyNunn a delicious concoction.
@Fluttershy It looks like a heart attack
@AshleyNunn with Kevin Bacon movies.
@AshleyNunn I'd eat it.
@Fluttershy So would I, once
I have deep fried Twinkies, they're yummy
Same with most mini chocolate bars
@AshleyNunn Deep fried oreos are my favoritest thing ever.
2:38 AM
@Fluttershy I have never had a deep fried Oreo
I am going to have to try that when I make homemade Oreos some time
@AshleyNunn It's basically an oreo wrapped in a funnel cake.
@Fluttershy :O
@Fluttershy I want that in my mouth
@AshleyNunn I'll be kind and remove my star. lol
2:41 AM
@Fluttershy lol no worries. XD I should learn to think before I type
it is a little funny XD
I think this topic is a bit too appetizing so have this vid to compensate.
.....I've eaten testicles, brains, heart, pig's ear, and blood
Nothing can disgust me XD
Q: My hireling died, what happens to their equipment?

EBongoDespite my best attempts, my hireling died. Alas poor meatshield, I knew her well. It does not seem that her equipment dropped when she died. Is it lost forever? If I hire a new hireling will the inherit her equipment?

@skovacs1 this one is one of my favorites. i'd never eat what they ate, but the makeup was good, and the video was funny.
Also, I vaguely recall these guys came to my uni last term
2:50 AM
I love easy D2 questions.
I never knew what they were about.
@Fluttershy Up for some DinoBeating?
@GnomeSlice Nah. That game is far too broken for me to play in its current form.
At least tonight, when I'm not in the mood to fuss with it. >.>
@Fluttershy Have you tried a real game with a bunch of other people? It's really fun.
The game is pretty broken, but it's a lot of fun.
7 hours ago, by Fluttershy
@IanPugsley I joined a server that was 4/5 on players. Loaded up, had to select my starting class 5 times before it finally selected something other than what I was clicking on. And, somehow, I was the only person on the server...
2:54 AM
Yeah, it's terribly broken. You have to exit the game completely if you want to switch servers.
It only seems to be able to handle one server per game launch
@StrixVaria I should've posted my comment as an answer to that second one.
@GnomeSlice For a project funded by Kickstarter, that's pretty much bullshit... =\ They should've done better.
@Fluttershy I was using shift nonstop during the D3 beta.
@Fluttershy Lets see you make an amazing game with a good budget.
Money isn't everything.
I expect they'll be updating it
The Witch Doctor's corpse spiders were awesome but attacking enemies directly with them was silly. Placing them between you and the enemies was much more effective, but if you just clicked normally you'd wind up running into the middle like an idiot.
@GnomeSlice If they lacked the talent to make a halfway decent game, why even try to do it?
2:57 AM
@Fluttershy That's a pretty elitist thing to say.
Why not try to do it?
@GnomeSlice How about not misrepresenting your ability to produce on Kickstarter?
There's a lot of potential in the game, the moving from base to base aspect makes for a cool game.
@StrixVaria Hey guys, fund our game, we suck at it, but do it anyway
I am not sure if the Vector Park game Windosill has a point or not
but I find it entertaining....
Clearly the community thought it had some merit.
"I'm awesome! Give me money and I'll do something awesome." gives money "Oh lol nm I actually suck."
Sounds like a dick move to me.
Just saying.
2:58 AM
@StrixVaria I'm inclined to agree.
It's a good game, it's just very clearly unfinished
Apparently, the project the fans originally funded was a team deathmatch shooter using the source engine. Somewhere in development, the team decided "screw that. we're doing this instead."
Achievement Unlocked: Forever Alone -- Graduate with a Computer Science Degree.
@RavenDreamer Hey, I have that one.
