The Power of No










No one is setting fire to anything. Check your Constitution. Section 7. All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives. The House sent a bill for raising revenue to the Senate. The Senate rejected it and sent it back to the House. The House can either send a different bill for raising revenue to the Senate or send the same one. Eventually, the Senate will have to pass something the House approved. That is the way our government works.
So now Democrats are trying to establish a one-party dictatorship similar to some that have existed in foreign nations. They have their followers addicted to various things, drugs, alcohol, pornography, gambling, etc., all of which require immediate payment if the addictions are to be satisfied. So it is not difficult to work Democrats and other addicts into a frenzy every time money is needed to pay for addictions.
Reality is different. If there is a group in Congress that is not catering to every party excess, that is really a good thing. The fact remains that all bills for raising revenue must originate in the House. If Democrats don't like that system, it seems to me that they are in a position to amend the Constitution. I don't look for them to do that. I think they will whine in the news media until they get another trillion and a half dolllars to pass out to their followers.

rb -- You're talking about "reality?"
In the same post where you claim (apparently with a straight face) that Democrats are trying to install a one-party dictatorship and are addicted to various vices?
Good grief, your post is a great example of how delusional so many conservatives seem these days. Not to mention that you pretty much garbled the entire history of what led to the shutdown.

No, I just happen to know the facts. 40% of the voters are independent voters, completely unrepresented in government because independent voters are prevented from running for office by state election laws passed since about 1970 which require independent candidates to get as many as six times as many nomination petition signatures as a Democrat or Republican running for the same office. Care to guess which major party has the politicians that propose these laws?
So when independent candidates cannot get on the ballot and appeal these un-Constitutional laws to federal court, federal courts rule habitually that only party candidates have a right under United States law to run for office. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was not intended to protect independent voters.
This has enabled the Democratic Party to back Republicans, the weak party of the two party system, into a corner, and so the Republican Party went defunct in the election of 2012 the same way the Federalists went defunct in 1800. Conservatives are members of a European political party. I do not belong to a political party.
I know what caused the shutdown. The Democratic Party caused the shutdown, just like they cause every government shutdown.
But this time is different because the Republican Party is really no longer there. What is there is a Constitutional requirement that all bills for raising revenue must originate in the House. So we will see some more posturing until Democrats whine enough in the news media to get the House to give them their way. But I break down the financing of this government a little differently from the way party members like you do.

Contributions for payment of the national debt 2008-2012

Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and all other Democrats plus

Mitt Romney, the Koch brothers, and all Republicans -$6,000,000,000,000.00

Independent voter Robert B. Winn +$160.00

So now that you know the difference between what an independent voter can do and what a party member can do, go ahead and try to tell me how much better your way is.

Basically it's like a bullfight, but with an unarmed matador. You can communicate and reason with the matador, but not with the bull. And we don't need any more bull.

Remember when the Tea Party first burst upon the scene in the spring of 2009, they tried to brand themselves as libertarian, or even as non-partisan? In reality they were the creation of Faux News and the Koch brothers.

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