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RE: who cares
By The Raven on 6/23/2011 11:43:50 AM , Rating: 2
I think you are referring to the bicameral system and the combination of the three banches of gov't as the main vehicle of C&B.

The gov't was NEVER intended to be 2 party.

Can you see it now? "We the people...are either pro-choice and socialists or anti-gay rights and believe in the freemarket." I can't.
Frankly I find your attitude highly deplorable. So you won't vote, or participate in Government, until everything just works the way you want it to? If everyone did that, things would NEVER be the they wanted it. Did our Forefathers just sit in England and say "well, sooner or later, things will be the way we want them to here". Change requires action or force.
Yeah! Rock the vote, dude!</sarcasm>
His money does more about our gov't than his vote. But if he is going to give up his vote, I would ask that he vote Libertarian as a "big" ;-) FU to the two parties.
YOU and people like you are the reason things are the way they are. It's called "apathy", look it up.
I agree that apathy is a big problem in this country and the world at large, but your attitude re: the 2-party system sounds almost just as effectively apathetic IMHO. At least he is willing to symbolically take power from the gov't, where you propose to bolster the 2 antagonists. I'm not trying to put you down, that is just the way I see it from my point of view.

RE: who cares
By Reclaimer77 on 6/23/2011 12:24:53 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry I just can't abide someone who complains about the way things are, then says he "refuses" to vote until things just magically fix themselves to his liking. That's lazy and apathetic.

I know a single vote is hardly a sword of light, able to cut through the darkness and despair, but it's more than doing NOTHING.

At least he is willing to symbolically take power from the gov't

What? How is he doing that, exactly? By paying taxes and NOT voting, he's GIVING them more power.

RE: who cares
By Dr of crap on 6/23/2011 12:45:47 PM , Rating: 2
First - all politicians do is blame the other side, and try and keep their elected office.

Second - they take bribes, free and legal mid you, to vote the way the money givers want them to.

Thrid - number two above keeps the politicans from voting like his constituents wanted him to when they voted him into office!!!!

By the way, not that I have to explain myself the the lowly reclaimer77, I voted for Ross Perot, and I have voted for any other party on the ballot rather than pick any republican or demacrat.

The political system we have is in no way what the ones who drew this up wanted it to be.

What have you done to change things? Easy to blame someone for not doing anything; harder to do it yourself!

And while I have your attention, Do you like to have every TV and radio comercial, every billboard covered with political ads when its election time? Not to mention the crap load of yard signs that make me want to rip them all out and build a bonfire. You know that the ones that has the most yard sign and ads gets the most votes don't you? How is that a good way to pick the best one for office.
"I'll vote for him, because my neighbors all have his name on their lawns." And don't think for one minute this doesn't happen
How is all that even sane or "green"? Hell you can't even get elected if you don't spend MILLIONS. And our govt GIVES out money to the candidates to run for office!
My take on the bulls$$t is to stay out of it all.

RE: who cares

That's lowly Reclaimer77 to you, spell it right.

RE: who cares
By adiposity on 6/23/2011 12:49:05 PM , Rating: 2

At any given time, he's only giving power to one party or the other...whoever has more votes at the time. I suppose that's an oversimplification, but basically, voting has a legitimizing effect on candidates. If you equally hate both candidates, you can do worse than to vote for neither.


For the record, I do vote every election, and I'm not advocating not voting. But voting actually lends credence to the government, not the other way around. By voting you symbolically accept the system of choosing officials, and therefore the result as valid and fair.

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