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not to destroy the world's environment, which they will do if other things being equal. and so we want to work with them on avoiding environmental just destruction. we want them to continue bringing people from rural poverty to sort of urban working classness, which is what they've been doing. we want them to grow up in both international and domestic ways. grow up internationally in having a foreign policy that's not just whatever's good for them commercially, which is what their foreign policy is now. and to say, "okay, you have to play a role in iran and syria or whatever, being responsible." domestically, we want them to gain confidence so they don't have to have their foot on their people's neck. most of the time in china you don't know the government's around. just kind of a sort of state of chaos -- >> really? >> and, yeah. >> i mean, not like russia, the soviet union -- >> oh, it's -- >> not that blanket -- >> entirely different. it's most of the time the areas the government cares about, the internet, democratic protest or whatever, taiwan, tibet, they're all over. when it doesn't inv
that climate change has little to do with the state of the environment, but much to do with the state of capitalism and transforming the american economic system and you see an opening with sandy, right? >> i do see an opening because, you know, whenever you have this kind of destruction there has to be a reconstruction and what i documented in the shock doctrine is that these right-wing think tanks leak the american enterprise institute and the cato institute and heritage foundation, they historically have gotten very, very good at seizing these moments of opportunity to push through their wish lists of policies and often their wish lists of policies, after hurricane katrina there was a meeting at the heritage foundation just two weeks after the storm hit. parts of the city were still under water and there was a meeting and "the wall street journal" reported from it and the heading was 31 free market solutions for hurricane katrina and you go down the list and it was -- don't re-open the public schools. replace the public schools with vouchers and drill for oil in anwar and the arcti
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