Turkish politics

Everything is possible

Uncertainty grips the country as another scandal engulfs Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government

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Erdogan calls his son Bilal on the morning of December 17th, the day of the "operation," and tells him to get help from his uncles, aunts (whomever) and get rid of "it" all. He calls again later in the day to check on the progress. Bilal responds: "All but 30 Million euros have been moved."

And CHB here tells us that the stolen amount could not have been $1Billion. OK, what was the exact amount then? Or is that knowledge above your pay grade?

Serkovic in reply to guest-seeoone

Also, Turkiye’s economic success is due to the series of reforms put in place by the Minister of the Economy Kemal Dervis after the 2001 economic crisis. These reforms made Turkiye adopt a floating exchange rate system, lifted restrictions on foreign capital inflows, tightened fiscal discipline, increased the independence of the Central Bank, and stabilised inflation. Dervis’ reforms protected Turkiye against the fallout from the global financial crisis. All AKP did was privatize everything Turkish state owned, which resulted in an unprecedented inflow of foreign investment. So Erdogan and his cronies got RICH. All of them! How does Erdogan’s wife, who has no past in any business, somehow own large companies such as MedikalPark the largest hospital chain in Turkiye? How does his young son become CEO of over 30 companies??? Is that even possible?? How does Erdogan who came to power with virtually no wealth now how villas and compounds built as well as 8 swiss bank accounts and countless other assets??? I ask you, what did you acquire in the last few years? Are you better off? Are you paying more for necessities like food and gas???

Philosophile in reply to guest-seeoone

No money is stolen!
Money is the bribes paid in return for pre arranged and agreed contracts and tenders!
2nd tape yesterday has the lines
"Don't take the money, if short"
"He must pay in full as agreed or nothing at all"

Can Kuzu in reply to guest-seeoone

No doubt you Read / Watch:

Takvim: Made up an interview with Christiane Ammanpour
Yen Safak: Made up half an interview with Chomsky
Channel 7: Made up sound reports claiming the recordings were false
Sabah: They just make up everything
Haber Turk: They wait for the Prime Minister to tell them what to broadcast

Then you call the world respected Economist, a so called media outlet.



Economist is always at his majesty's service like 007. According to Economist, in 2011 Erdogan was an autocratic administrator, later he became a dictator and sultan, now a corrupt and insidious PM. After Operation Cast Lead of Israel in Gaza it was Tayyip Erdogan who objected directly and severely to Israel. From then on this fault line has gotten longer and longer with Davos, Mavi Marmara etc. All these years we are quite accustomed to insults from western media manipulated by Israel. However stronger the attacks from western media against Erdogan, greater the victories he gets in the elections. So try harder and harder, Erdogan loves you !

egeli in reply to guest-sewjnaj

The fact is that the Gulen movement only exposed AKP corruption AFTER they were threatened.

What if Erdogan gave the Gulen movement autonomy?

What if he never threatened to close down Gulenist schools?

All these recordings would have never been released.

In Turkey, justice is a weapon. That is the real problem.

He hasn't been arrested yet because he has the plice force and judiciary appointed personally according to how much they are intimidated or influenced by him and those like him. Anyone who gets in his way he has had put behind bars.


what i find unbelievable is that he is still up there .. why has he and his retarded son & arrogant daughter not been arrested ???? These people are only interested in lining their own pockets and increasing their own power for their own agenda ... They don't care about Turkey nor for its interests .... ohhh I forgot he completely dismantled the army ..


Geneticists or the Genetic Scientists must be close to and will very soon discover a new gene strand called;

Regina Arrogantis Barbaris Corruptus Ignorantis Stupitus Misogynous Terribilis Republicus Turcus

Can Kuzu in reply to CHBlackman

Perhaps TE actually understands the concept of democracy in a way that you clearly do not.

1) Freedom of the press
2) The rule of law
3) Freedom of religion
4) Freedom of speech
5) Accountability

Because none of these things exist in Turkey, so therefore it is not a democracy.

Fahrettin Tahir in reply to CHBlackman

I do not have the values of 1924, noone does. But that is where the secular republic started.
In 10 years the AKP has destroyed the established rules and laws. That exactly is my point. 10 years ago noone was afraid to say what he thought or wanted, now they are. This is an empire of fear.
The fact that many farmers care not the least about democracy does not make this end of democracy a "legitimate democratic development".
Democracy is about far more than voting in your favorite dictator.

tedkolej in reply to guest-seeoone

Pigs do fly in Istanbul and in Ankara, head pig with his flat full of Euros and dollars, smaller pigs with their shoebox full of Euros and dollars. But these Turkish pigs only fly with their stolen money never bare!

tedkolej in reply to CHBlackman

"Democratically elected"?? Illusion. When there is no free press, no independent and impartial judiciary, no freedom of conscience, there is no democratic, free elections. Go and bark up another tree! Foolish person.


The extreme pragmatism of the Gulen movment is creepy.

They are now courting Turks on the political left, simply because they have no more else to go.

These are the same people who gave Turkish heroes like İlker Basbuğ a LIFETIME prison sentence.

Why should we trust the Gulen movement?

Everyone is scared.

@DFullTimeTaxPayerMum - thank you for your answer .. So how does one get rid of a tyrant ??? the only way is a la Ukraine when there is blood on the streets ??? A division in the country or civil war (G..d forbid)
I am so upset .. Turkey has gone back 30 years in the past 6 months ...


Everything is not possible.

Fetullah Gulen is immune to wiretapping because he is based in the United States. His movement can spy on the Turkish elite, while being out of reach from the reverse.

This is exactly why Fetullah Gulen built his fortress in a country that happens to be the most powerful imperial force since Rome.

Fetullah Gulen is the greatest threat to Turkish sovereignty since World War 1.

He will not return to his homeland until his mission -eliminating Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy - is complete.

Serkovic in reply to guest-seeoone

So you say they paid the IMF debt, do you even know how?? Only by borrowing from elsewhere cheaper and also selling off all Turkish assets! At the end of June this year, Turkey’s foreign debt was $367 billion!! The highest ever! The current account is also at the highest level ever. But you probably don’t know these kinds of facts because the AKP gave you some coal for the winter or paved your street and put some flowers in a park to keep their ignorant sheep supporters happy while they rob the nation not only of its wealth but more importantly its institutions.

guest-ljiwljw in reply to guest-seeoone

"...A fake amateur voice recording alleging the PM is corrupt was poorly executed."

You must have your snout in the trough, or, on crack (or both) to think that the recordings are fake!!! Even the deaf can hear the voice of Erdogan and Bilal in those recordings; they are as real as the night following the day. The problem is the immoral, hubristic co-operatives like you and your ilk, who are supporting a bunch of thieves.

Just this week, more than twenty US and European news organizations, including LA Times, NY Times, Herald, FT, etc, etc., came out and provided their insightful review of the despotism served by Erdogan and his AK party cult. And you want people to believe his and his ilk's incessant lies. You people cannot stop lying!

There are hundreds of innocent reporters, politicians, dissidents, authors, soldiers thrown in jails with no charge or evidence, and, you are stewing in your hypocrisy.

You may deserve a thief like Erdogan and his family, but, others don't.



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