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Chicago- Guns

Posted 07/09/2013

So, I saw where Chicago has the Strictest gun laws in the nation. However, this past weekend ( july 4th weekend) there were 12 that died of gun violence and 60 others seriously injured. 

In a city that I think 80% of kids are without Fathers, do you think, it's still a gun issue, or a family issue? 


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Posted 07/09/2013

Japan has an all out gun ban and only 11 gun deaths or so a year, and they have 128 million people.



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Posted 07/09/2013
Insert *eye roll* here. I believe one gun incident alone injured six or eight people at once. THAT's a gun issue.

Are poverty, segregation, and discrimination factors too? Sure. The severity of the incidents, though, comes from access to guns. It's not that hard to leave the city to buy guns. And we don't yet know where these came from.
Last edited 07/09/2013

Its not a "gun issue", its a gang/drug issue. 

Its also an "enforce the laws that are already in place" issue. 

ETA - that's why all the gun laws we have here (the strictest in the country!) do nothing to stop the violence. 

Posted 07/09/2013

Japan is also an island, and it is more difficult to get guns into the country.  If there was a complete gun ban here, they would still find their way into the country.

Posted 07/09/2013
Insert eyeroll here, it's not a one incident problem, they have 200 gun related deaths so far this year. That IS more than a gun issue.
Posted 07/09/2013

It is an idiot issue.


Posted 07/09/2013

Hubs and I were just talking about this the other day.  The problem with gun control laws, and the reason why they don't work well, is because gangbangers can drive.  They can also make friends with people in other states, where guns are easier to get.  If we're going to ban guns, we need to do it across the board on a federal level.  That will never happen of course, but that's what would have to happen if we really wanted to decrease the number of guns via legislation.

But of course legislation isn't the answer. Guns are only a nasty manifestation of a larger problem. The schools in Chicago have been struggling for years, poverty and unemployment are through the roof, and even public transportation costs an arm and a leg these days.  There are some neighborhoods where kids can't be allowed to play outside even during the day.  Get rid of all the guns, and there will still be frustrated, angry people ready to kill someone over a pair of fifty-dollar shoes.  There needs to be real social change, not just more laws.

Kind of like abortion.  Bans and restrictions don't do shit if you don't address the underlying cause.



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