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User avatar #1 - charagrin (01/15/2014) [-]
Thats what I don't get about the glorification of rappers in general. "Well they are an inspiration because they rose above a life of crime and poverty to act as role models to future children"

No, just no. They rose above a life of poverty and petty crime to SING(I use that sarcasticly) about all the stuff they escaped from and give it a glorified air so others will try and emulate it.
#81 to #1 - anonymous (01/16/2014) [-]
>not all of them
User avatar #70 to #1 - stillnotbob (01/16/2014) [-]
Kendrick Lamar frequently commentates about drugs, sex, and alcohol. I mean they're things that have been in use by teenagers for a long time, but Kendrick shows the negative aspects of them.
User avatar #26 to #1 - vicsix ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Kendrick Lamar is a good example for what blancka is talking about. If you don't mind, actually listen to MAAD City or DRANK. They're both actually pretty deep songs about relatable struggles.
User avatar #29 to #26 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
It was a one off comment on a forum, not an invitation to discuss the philosophy behind a genre of music known for it's glorification of a gang based lifestyle. I don't care if one out of every thousand artists don't follow the stereotype. Some murderers repent and regret their actions, doesn't mean I am going to invite them to watch my grandma, and daughters while holding my gun and knife collection alone in a room.
User avatar #30 to #29 - vicsix ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
whoa, man. What's with the aggressiveness? I was just saying two songs by an artist I enjoy that might change your mind a bit. Calm down.
User avatar #32 to #30 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Because you are one of about a dozen people that have either commented or sent me messages on the subject. It got old, sorry to target you specifically, but I personally don't really care one way or the other what people like or think about any topic in general. I made a joke, and people are taking it way too seriously.
User avatar #34 to #32 - vicsix ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
It wasn't a joke though, it was an opinion, and an opinion about a genre that is very broad.
User avatar #36 to #34 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Dats dah joke. I took a stereotype to it's conclusion in order to parody the genre itself. It's like saying black people like watermelon, it's a joke. Not all blacks like watermelon, some can't afford to taste it in the first place. See? A joke. I am happy(not really as I don't care one way or the other) that you enjoy rap, so lets leave it at that.
User avatar #43 to #36 - oceanfrank ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
I AM 2 GUD FUR UR ****** MUNKEE RAP MOOZIK QUIT TRYING TO GIT ME TO LISTEN TO STUFF I MIGHT ACTUALLY ENJOY. God kill yourself, just say ok and dont listen to it, no need to sound like a ******* asshole
User avatar #46 to #43 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Somebodys bitchy. I don't not like rap, I just don't like rap. Nowhere did I say it was a bad choice. I also don't engage in gay sex, does that mean I hate gays too? Thank you for proving me right though. Because you are exactly my point. Not all people who like rap are assholes, but some are. And not all rap is glorifying crime, but most is.
User avatar #48 to #46 - oceanfrank ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
lol well every action has a reaction and no you werent joking. You gave your opinion, someone gave you theirs, you didnt like it so you come about sounding like a pretentious and completely arrogant douchebag. Dont try playing it off as something you joked about because you sound (and still do) dead serious about this whole situation.
User avatar #49 to #48 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
I don't care about rap, I don't care a little bit. I am just annoyed that people took a joke and turned it into something more. This is funnyjunk, I made a nod to a stereotype. I get that you don't believe me, and that is fine. Have a nice day.
User avatar #50 to #49 - oceanfrank ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
it wasnt a joke, both you and I know it. Have a nice day.
User avatar #20 to #1 - sorenlolz (01/16/2014) [-]
Blancka gets it. Not all rappers are that bad. He has some good examples, some other examples are NWA: they were just saying what's going on in their community. This song is my favorite example of this. Eazy-E - Eternal E Eazy E was my favorite rapper because he not only made great music, but he also had donated millions to charity. Eazy E also would donate his time to charities too. Other good examples are Ice Cube, and Snoop dogg.
#15 to #1 - blancka (01/15/2014) [-]
You don't listen to much rap do you? Just a few examples.

Eminem: Sings about how **** his life was before, but how he worked to make it better. How he's an angry person because of it but still loves his daughters and many issues such as bullying which people can relate to.

2pac: Sang about how ****** things are in ghettos. How it's up to the people there to tackle the issues and make a better community and other such things.

The glorified air of such acts you speak of is a representation of being a tougher person having overcome their problems in life. A lot of rappers had ****** childhoods and were treated like **** , so it's only natural they want to flaunt their success and be a bit egotistical, though this is only a few songs for most.
User avatar #75 to #15 - hoponthefeelstrain ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Some of Drake's songs are really emotional, talking about how he ****** up his love life over stupid **** .

Macklemore is also a good example.
User avatar #16 to #15 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Yeah you just presented the two best counter arguments, but they are just exceptions from the rule. Most (!) rappers are as ****** as charagrin pointed out.
#17 to #16 - blancka (01/16/2014) [-]
No, you're just looking in the wrong places. I used those examples because they're famous. It's easily understandable.

Yeah sure kanye and lil wayne suck dick for example, but popular music today isn't very good as a whole is it? Rap is no different. I prefer older stuff.

It's also worth noting that a lot of the songs glorifying these things were written before the fame hit. Back when looking tough and getting respect was all a rapper would strive for.
#58 to #17 - rsd (01/16/2014) [-]
How can you honestly put Kanye and Lil Wayne in the same category? Kanye is one of the top 10 hip hop artists ever...and I'm not even a big fan of his.
User avatar #44 to #17 - oceanfrank ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Kanye and Lil Wayne both have insane lyrical talent. listen to The Carter III and Late College Dropout and prepare to hear an entirely different side of both of them. They've completely fallen from grace yes but it doesnt mean they're terrible.
User avatar #18 to #17 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Maybe it's just me, but all rappers I see (except for the exceptions mentioned before) are **** . Lil Wayne with his ****** lyrics (5 year olds could come up with better lyrics) and others from which I can't even remember the name who sing (sarcasm) about how cool they are because they get high on weed. And don't get me started on german rappers, they are even worse.
I agree that most music today isn't very good except for Rock/Punk/Metal. It's a good time to be a metalhead.
User avatar #39 to #18 - oceanfrank ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
lil wayne used to be a pretty good rapper. His album The Carter III was probably one of the better albums to come out in the 00's. He's sorta just... lost it. To tell you the truth I think rock/punk have had quite a downfall recently, I mean the fact that a poprock band made an album called, "Save Rock and Roll" and it turned out to be mediocre kinda says a lot about rock at this point in the world. Thank God RHCP and Foo Fighters are still out there.
User avatar #33 to #18 - bjorntheberserk (01/16/2014) [-]
Good thing about metal is it is a very experimental genre you can literally list two metal bands and have them sound completely different but still be considered metal. Metal keeps on experimenting whereas most other genres found what works for them and milks the **** out of it.
User avatar #93 to #33 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Yeah I was on a metal concert two weeks ago called "Eisheilige Nacht" and there were four metal bands that played after each other. It was like a rollercoaster. Another plus for metal: nearly 6 hours concert for as little as 30 Euros.
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