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By Dorkyman on 12/17/2010 6:24:09 PM , Rating: 4
Given today's ability to measure extremely small levels of pretty much anything, the question then becomes: So What?

In other words, what is the level where dangerous or negative effects result? If you measure 1ppb of, say, arsenic in my drinking water, but it takes 1,000ppb to have adverse consequences, then, yes, there is arsenic in the water, but it makes no difference.

So all I want is an assessment of the negative effects of the "third-hand smoke" at the measured levels.

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By Smartless on 12/17/2010 7:09:23 PM , Rating: 5
What's funny is the source article states that since we don't know what the effects of 3rd hand smoke is, people should wash down areas where children would touch when they move in. Hmm... Next thing you know, they'll tell us to wash our organic fruits before we eat them.

RE: So?
By Malhavoc on 12/18/2010 2:56:30 PM , Rating: 1
You should wash your organic fruit before you eat it. Why wouldn't you? Someone could have taken a crap before picking it without washing their hands, a bird could of dropped one off, your friendly neighbourhood douche could have sneezed on them in the grocery store ....

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By SlyNine on 12/18/2010 5:54:25 PM , Rating: 5
I get the feeling alot of people missed the sarcasm.

RE: So?
By eomhS on 12/19/2010 2:30:07 PM , Rating: 2
The gov't doesn't allow you to create your own organic fruits.

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By MrBlastman on 12/20/2010 12:51:05 PM , Rating: 2
While I think this study is overblown, I did find, to my amusement about a month ago, the growing trend of people buying homes only to find out afterwards being moved in that it was formerly a meth house. This problem is especially pronounced where I live--Atlanta, as it is the meth capital of America.

If anything, this will provide some amusement:

Unlike smoking, meth houses are doused in extremely toxic chemicals. I was absolutely shocked by what goes into the stuff. No wonder people lose their teeth from using it. Just a few weeks ago, two guys were even arrested for cooking meth in the front seat of their truck here in town!

Check out their mug shots... :)

Interesting to note, when my wife and I were shopping for a home last year we found a nice home in a neighborhood... only to discover just down the street from it in that same neighborhood a suspicious home with foil covering the windows and a prominent sign in their front yard--"No smoking on this property, please." If that wasn't a giveaway, I don't know what is.

RE: So?
By StevoLincolnite on 12/17/2010 8:53:47 PM , Rating: 3
It's also not the extremity of the concentration that you should only worry about, but how long you would be exposed to said concentration.
Especially true if you intend to live in the residence for a number of years/decades.

RE: So?
By DanNeely on 12/18/2010 12:52:47 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. This study needs to be continued to see how long it takes the residual levels to drop to a negligible amount.

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By foolsgambit11 on 12/17/2010 10:35:55 PM , Rating: 2
And while they use nicotine as a marker for the chemicals in cigarettes, do the explore whether the other toxins in cigarettes are more or less likely to persist after a smoker has left?

RE: So?
By Lerianis on 12/19/2010 1:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
Someone did a study about that a few years ago. I remember seeing it in the USAToday, and it basically said that aside from 'tar' on the walls (which had very low levels of bad things in it, less than background levels in some cases), nothing stayed in the house.

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By kattanna on 12/20/2010 11:24:56 AM , Rating: 2
i like how the pic shows someone holding a lit cig right in front of the little girl.

like the 2 things are the same.

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By bfdd on 12/20/2010 3:39:36 PM , Rating: 1
I'm with you. I see no point in releasing this information without what PPM are bad and how long it would take to build up a bad level. Odds are you're breathing in 1ppm and it ain't shit and won't ever be shit, they're just trying to scare people like they did with the 2nd hand smoke bullshit.

