The Nuclear Dream Is Fading, But The Hydrogen Dream Lives On en-us Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500 Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:43:44 -0500 The Oil Drum mole Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:34:09 -0500 It takes more energy to produce hydrogen than hydrogen itsself produces, kind of like the electric car fairy tale where the electricity to charge the batteries is from nat gas and coal fired generators and electric cars are a net user of more energy than they save, typical green energy B.S.. Actually the government and the elites are aware of energy sources that would be life changing but it is being supressed , read the book ,, the hunt for zero point by nick cook, and the book pandoras box by alex christopher , and check these sites above top secret .com and ? Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:41:51 -0500 What about this Jan 17 2012 Business Insider article about cold fusion? It uses hydrogen. <a href="" target="_blank"></a> Fire up a J Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:39:57 -0500 THORIUM, considered a "waste product" created by uranium mining, is actually a QUITE USEFUL semi-radioactive element that could revolutionize shipbuilding, desalination, and supplying emergency water and electricity via a floating offshore ship to anywhere around the world. Using thorium reactors and molten salt could create safe, clean energy, and help us defray the half-life decaying piles of old waste by reprocessing them into something comparatively more harmless. Personally, I like the design where the pile of thorium balls goes downward into a funnel, after which they're checked carefully before being put back on top. I love simplicity. I'm a regular reader of The Oil Drum and the regular guy's analysis is brilliant. Adding the voice of this new writer to TOD's team is a sure-fire winner. A lot of this stuff sounds like sic-fi, but it's cool to know that someone's doing it somewhere. Science and technology rock, and that's a message we need to be sending STRONGLY to our kids and young students! -- Fire Fire up a J Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:31:50 -0500 Business Insider readers... you're about to enter into a GEEK TWILIGHT ZONE. Turn away! Look away from the light! That said, reading this article made me feel like I just sat through a semester of college, sucking up all the info like a sponge. I'm too intimidated to go to any of the writer's links, but this comprehensive review of what happened at the conference is, by any measure, OUTSTANDING! Excelsior, sir. Thanks, BI! -- Fire Blatz Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:28:58 -0500 I forgot how good The Oil Drum is. ( Hello Rockman. Still eating Blue Bell?) Oil Drum has thoroughly debunked hydrogen in the past. This article sets up the pins, but doesn't knock them down. It's pretty easy to do. Other than being a way to get government subsidies hydrogen is not a part of our energy future. Tyler Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:23:25 -0500 The only real option for a hydrogen economy is hydrogen fusion. If we can develop a sustainable and energy-generating fusion reactor all our energy problems will be an interesting note in the history books. Why hasn't it happened yet? Europe is way ahead of the US with the Joint European Torus. If the US doesn't step up research we're going to still be buying energy from another continent.