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Published: Thursday, March 10 2011 3:55 p.m. MST

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Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT


You should do your homework before lumping me in with the BYU haters and the crowd you describe. My posts anywhere on the Desnews web site are always respectful of BYU or any of the Utes opponents. I have seen many BYU fans spew nothing but hatred on these comment boards, even in articles that have nothing to do with the rivalry. So don't try to play the holier than thou card on me. Doesn't fly.

FYI, where I sit in Rice-Eccles there are usually some BYU fans around us during the rivalry game. Other than some gentle ribbing by the Utes in the area, I have never seen the kind of poor behavior you and other BYU fans have described. I don't doubt that there are Ute fans in the stadium who are rude and crude, but don't try to steriotype and lump us all together. I would think any BYU fan or member of the LDS Church would have had enough of that to not try it on others.

Holladay, UT

@ WA_Alum&Dad,

That's very interesting, because I've received the same kind of treatment from BYU fans. Is it possible that it goes both ways? Is it possible that the ugliness of the rivalry could be BYU's fault as well as Utah's fault? Do you truly think that Ute fans are the whole problem? I agree with you that there are some Utah fans that only hate BYU. But I have also seen some of the most hateful words and actions coming from BYU fans towards Utah. The problem involves both sides. Stop drinking the byu kool-aid and have an objective opinion.

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

WA_Alum&Dad, give me a break, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Look at this any and every other story about the UofU and you will see numerous posts from BYU fans like yourself belittling the UofU. You guys such hypocrites as your fans are some the most condescending around. Problem is when you get it thrown back at you act like little girls and claim persecution. BYU where the girls are girls and fans are too.

Salt Lake City, UT

pebble of the marne

It's laughable that BYU-obsessed Utah trolls like you who constantly spam BYU articles would have the chutzpah to complain about BYU fans posting on a Utah article.

Utah fans are simply jealous that BYU may have trumped Utah's move to the PAC 12 by going Independent and signing an exclusive 8-year contract with ESPN.

As much as Utah fans try to pretend that Utah's move to the PAC 12 left BYU in the dust, Utah fans are still obsessed with BYU.

Why is that?

Could it be that Utah fans are worried that if BYU is successful as an independent, it could dwarf any accomplishments that Utah might have in the PAC 12?

Little brother syndrome is alive and well on the hill.

Holladay, UT

@ TrollPolice,

Your main point in your post is that you think Utah fans are obsessed with BYU. Do you realize that you are on a Utah article, which means that you probably read the article, and you are now commenting on the Utah article about Utah fans. You are the one that is obsessed with Utah.

P.S. Nobody in the nation thinks that BYU's move to independence trumps Utah's move to the PAC 12 besides BYU fans.

Marysville, WA

@Mormon Ute:
Glad to know that you aren't one of the haters. I hadn't planned to post on a Ute article, but your characterization made me laugh out loud.

Good to see that a Ute fan knows how to spell belittling, hypocrites, and condescending. Congrats on your use of punctuation as well.

Sorry--you kind of asked for that.

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

Dear Troll Police (ironic title), I havent posted on a BYU story since who knows when (last time I am sure it was positive). Go find a post and prove me wrong. Thing is Mr. Troll, this is story about Utah so once again you and your fellow fans are looking like hypocrites de jure. I don't care about your silly little team. My team is leaving them behind and from now on it will be one game a year just like Weber and USU. It's also laughable to act like going independent is anything near as good as being called up from the mid majors (a neighborhood your team still inhabits by the way). Any team in the nation can "go independent" but the truth is only silly BYU not wanting to be left behind had try to prove it was as worthy (total reactionary move). Please go away BYU fan/trolls, I really don't care to see you on U of U threads anymore with your ever present little brother attitude/insecurity.

Centerville, UT

Troll Police:

Is your post an attempt at stand up comedy? You were trying to be funny with irony right?

Highland, UT


You are perhaps the dimmest of all posters on here. No not everyone could go independent. Actually very few schools could do it successfully and utah is not one of the ones that could. You have to have a large fanbase, BYU has that and utah does not. You need to have a nationwide fanbase, BYU has that and utah does not. You have to field top programs in multiple sports, BYU does that and utah does not. You have to have a national network perceive you as valuable enough to cut an exclusive deal with you for millions of dollars per year, BYU has that and utah doesn't.

What BYU has done very few schools could do. Any school could go to the pac10 and gravytrain on the other schools there. That doesn't take any sort of anything to accomplish. Don't get me wrong about that either because it is a step up for utah from where they were but they haven't done anything that litterally any other school couldn't do also. If utah ever does win the pac10 and goes to the RoseBowl then get back to us about what theyve accomplished.

salt lake city, utah

I smell a lot of Pac-10 envy from the BYU faithful. Let's face it, the Utes just movied into the best overall conference in the country. And while there is no doubt that the basketball team is the pits right now, historically that has not been true. As for football, the Utes are already an elite program despite having the distinct disadvantage of not playing in a BCS conference. Poof! That disadvantage just went away. Where is BYU? Nowhere. The WCC in basketball? Please. And in football? BCS? Nope. Independent. Some advantages there, but in the long run, it is gonna be tough to play a schedule worthy of National Championship consideration. Oh, well. I am happy for the Utes. And I wish the Cougars well also.....

Salt Lake City, Utah

Utah hasn't been relevant in anything besides football for a long time, so as long as the Utes continue to do well in football, they'll be fine.

Salt Lake City, UT

Ill be straight up honest, the reason that I troll this forum is that I am jealous of what Utah has accomplished by securing a Pac-10 invite. For years, my cougars have set out to earn such an invite, but sadly, it never came, and it never will.

Since the announcement, I have gone through at least 200 boxes of kleenex, crying myself to sleep at night. All I really want is for someone to hug me. I am desperate for attention and need others to acknowledge me to feel a sense of self worth.

Please, have pity on me my friends.

Murray, UT


A couple of weeks ago you commented that nobody in your town of Marysville, WA had even heard of the University of Utah. Rather than waste your time ranting against the U of U here on these boards why don't you just go door to door in Marysville and rant against the U. You could kill two birds with one stone, educating the good people of Marysville and ranting against your favorite adversary, the University of Utah. You should also read Mathew Chapter 6. You know, the verses about loving your enemies.

McCammon, Idaho

Eastcoastcoug, don't bring Idaho into this. We had nothing to do with it.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

"I hadn't planned to post on a Ute article"

Do you mean the first time you posted? Or how about the second time?? Maybe it was the third time you were talking about...

at least be honest and admit trolling is in your blood just like DuckHunter and SammyG!!!

Go Utes!!

Palo Alto, CA

Duckhunterr impersonator

Every conference needs it's perennial bottom feeders to pad the records of the elite programs in the conference. Washington State welcomes the company.

Park City, UT

The Utes were nationally exposed three times last season.

The last thing the Utes need is more national exposure.

Palo Alto, CA

duck decoy

I'll be straight up honest. The reason that I troll this forum is that I am jealous of all of the national accolades that BYU has received. For decades, my Utes have set out to earn such respect, but sadly, it never came, and, now, it never will.

Since the announcement of our being consigned to perennial bottom dweller status in the PAC 12, I have gone through at least 200 boxes of kleenex, crying myself to sleep at night. All I really want is for someone to hug me. I am desperate for attention and need others to acknowledge me, to feel a sense of self worth.

Highland, UT


get back to us after that 1-4 start next year.

Holladay, UT

Kind of like BYUs 1-4 start last year?
Does that Utah State game still sting?

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