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RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By fxnick on 3/19/2007 10:47:47 PM , Rating: 2
Your totally right, hybrids are a big waste of time and money, diesels really are the future when it comes to the power/MPG ratio. Hybrids are over-rated on their actual MPG too.

Watch in like 5 or 10 years there will be tons of hybrids out there from this generation with batteries that are no good.

Ill take a nice fire-breathing Mustang GT500 or Powerstroke over those woman cars.

RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By Tsuwamono on 3/19/2007 11:35:21 PM , Rating: 1
except that diesels polute more dude. Ya great millage but tell that to your kids when they earn our crappy planet once we are done fucking it up real good. If i could i would go hydrogen. Much better.

RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By Martin Blank on 3/20/2007 12:49:21 AM , Rating: 2
Check your facts. Aside from PM10, diesels are quite clean, especially with the new ultra-low-sulfur fuels.

RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By timmiser on 3/20/07, Rating: 0
By otispunkmeyer on 3/20/2007 5:34:17 AM , Rating: 2
Carbon Dioxxide (CO2) - This is the stuff that is hurting our environment. It causes global warming but it does not cause health issues. CO2 emissions are directly proportional to fuel consumption and since diesel engines use 30-40% less fuel, they emit 30-40% less CO2 than gas engines.

now first off, there are many many green house gases, we produce many of them too, but all anyone wants to believe in is man made CO2.

on top of that, im not entirely convinced that man made CO2 is the cause of GW. alot of people, jobs and money and based on the premise that man made CO2 is the sole contributing factor to GW. im not denying GW at all, im just sceptical as to the cause... i think man madeCO2 is just a small portion of a very big pie that includes other man made products, the sun and the earths natural cycle.

most cars have catalytic converters...these actually make a car produce more CO2 than they normally would because they are converting all the nasty gases like CO into something less detrimental to our health.

i honestly think, despite all this push to be green, driving green cars and paying large green taxes the outcome will be exactly the same. the earth will continue to warm and we'll be heavily out of pocket because of it.

RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By Calin on 3/20/2007 6:03:21 AM , Rating: 2
Diesel engines use less fuel, but those 30-40% are on volume. As diesel fuel is denser than gasoline, the output contains more CO2 than the MPG seems to imply.
The only pollution component that is checked for diesel engines here is particulate (the smoke out of the tail pipe must not be black). Black smoke out of diesel engines is bad.

RE: Underwhelming fuel economy
By Samus on 3/20/2007 6:44:33 AM , Rating: 3
Deisel's output the same amount of hydrocarbon/gallon than any unleaded gasoline engine. the reason they have a bad reputation is because of poor implementation of polution prevention devices, especially on trucks, so they smell awful and make a lot of noise.

I bet you'd drive my Passat and not even notice it's deisel because its responsive, quiet, and the pipes run clean.

Then you have to consider that deisel engines are built like tanks and statistically last hundreds of thousands miles longer than unleaded engines, making the cost savings in the end quiet substantial.

