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#10 - obliviousduck (07/12/2013) [-]
Shouldn't the devil be considered a good guy..? Since, you know, he punishes the bad guys in HIS hell.
I would much rather be a Satanist than a Christian..
#11 to #10 - anonymous (07/12/2013) [-]
He's the reason there's bad people in the first place.
User avatar #40 to #11 - captainfuckitall (07/13/2013) [-]
If he is the reason there are bad people, then Satan is the one who gave us free will (which means god made us without it and thus wanted us NOT to be able to choose)

If he is not the reason there is bad people, then god gave us free will, which means that we are punished because of mistakes an all-knowing being didn't foresee
#13 to #11 - obliviousduck (07/12/2013) [-]
How? God was the one that gave us free will.
#46 to #13 - anonymous (07/13/2013) [-]
Well Lucifer introduced us to sins.
User avatar #17 to #13 - thejerseyjenn (07/13/2013) [-]
And Satan is the route of temptation.
User avatar #41 to #17 - captainfuckitall (07/13/2013) [-]
There have been far more evil christians in the world than evil Pagans. Not to mention, the last time I checked, no wars were ever started in the name of Satan
User avatar #87 to #41 - thejerseyjenn (07/13/2013) [-]
Satan is the christian explanation as to why humans sin. In terms of Christianity no one goes around saying FOR THE GLORY OF SATAN. No, it's like why does one gamble? Because Atlantic City exists and I have the possibility of hitting the jackpot. It's the temptation. The christian explaination for feeling that temptation is "oh, satan put that there. He makes it look good so that I will want to do it." Wars, started in the name of God were made to liberate the heathens or something. They believed God would love them and welcome them to heaven if they would kill those people. Obviously, to people like you and me that's ridiculous, as no one with half a brain could justify genocide. However, it was not evil to them. So, the sense of good and evil was different. Thus, that was a good act and not the work of Satan. Am I making sense?
User avatar #89 to #87 - captainfuckitall (07/13/2013) [-]
Yes you are making sense and I understand just fine. I apologize if I came off as harsh before, I just thought you were that stereotypical christian "If god does it, it's always good. If Satan does it, it's always evil". My simple point was that if Satan as a deity exists, chances are he doesn't see himself as evil, nor does he act our maliciously or out of gruesome intent
User avatar #93 to #89 - thejerseyjenn (07/13/2013) [-]
I actually have to disagree. I think that if Satan does exist he seems himself as what he is. He is the angel that tried to disobey God. God was like no, and had Micheal banish Lucifer to the underworld. From that point I believe Satan's intent was to bring unto humans what was brought unto him. He was jealous that Adam and Eve got to spend time in doing nothing, petting lions and drinking from rivers while he was miserable and alone. God set one rule, do not eat from the tree of knowledge. Satan knew that if God's rule was broken the humans would be cast out of paradise just like he was. So he convinced Eve to eat from the tree. He told her that God just didn't want humans to eat from that tree because they would become like him. This was false of course as the tree's fruit only took away our ignorance and bestowed unto us the burden of knowledge. It did not give us the power of a god. Satan used false but very tempting promises to get us out of Eden. If Satan really does exist, it would only make sense for him to not see himself as evil but certainly as bitter and malicious. However you could be right, but I'm sure Hitler didn't see himself as evil either. We'll never know how Satan sees himself though will we? Well maybe when we die. In relation to society, Satan is rebellion, and it's understandable why old leaders would not want their citizens to rebel and thus why Christianity was so widespread. I'm sorry I'm jumping all over with this. I just don't discuss Christianity in such depth very often.
User avatar #18 to #17 - thejerseyjenn (07/13/2013) [-]
User avatar #24 to #18 - twistedtheturtle (07/13/2013) [-]
So you're saying he's the connection of weeds that connects to the ground?
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