



I. Manning: Call Me Chelsea






He signed the letter "Chelsea E. Manning"

Bradley Manning sign


II. Does Eighth Amendment Require Taxpayer Funded Sex Changes for Inmates




Ophelia De'Lonta





Prison population  U.S. prison population


Sources: Bradley "Chelsea" Manning, NBC TODAY Show

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RE: Well...
By drevas3053 on 8/22/2013 9:10:38 PM , Rating: 3
"The reality is any information available to that number of people, to people like manning, isn't really secret to anyone but the likes of you and me."

As someone who had the same job as Bradley Manning, an Intelligence Analyst with a TS (SCI) Clearance, I can tell you that you are badly mistaken. We saw things back in the 80's that I still haven't seen discussed in public or in the media. That is the whole idea of "Secrets".

Oh, and the Russians are notorious cheapskates when it comes to buying Intelligence.

RE: Well...
By Dribble on 8/23/2013 4:53:26 AM , Rating: 2
Yes it is a secret, but you are only keeping your secrets from the general public - people like me - everyone else knows. The truth of it is this level of secret is really only meant to be kept from the public because they don't "play the game", and might kick up a fuss if they knew all the laws that were being broken.

Manning and particularly Snowdens exposure is so terrifying for the NSA not because any foreign agency might be able to use the information (they already had it) but because the people they are meant to be protecting might use the information and actually stamp down on their illegal activities.

RE: Well...
By drevas3053 on 8/23/2013 10:23:44 AM , Rating: 2
No, again your lack of actual experience in the field gives you a badley mistaken point of view. We classify information to keep it out of the hands of our enemies, and occasionally our friends, not just the general public. You don't posses a working understanding of the subject. There is information that is reported in the Press that within the walls of the Intelligence Community is Classified as Secret. You tell me the rationale of that and your opinion might be credible. Otherwise it is just supposition without any real context. "Everyone" doesn't know our secrets, if they did it would be pointless to have them.

RE: Well...
By drevas3053 on 8/23/2013 10:52:25 AM , Rating: 2
One last thing, because if you don't understand now you never will, Spies exist for a reason. I was stationed in West Berlin in the late 70's. At that time it was one of, if not the largest, training ground for Russian and East Bloc Spies. I, and pretty much all of my buddies were approached by one of them at some point. Sometimes more than once. We thought it was a game. I was 17 at the time and thought I was SO smart. So one night at a Club one of them approached the group I was with. Unfortunately not a "Hot" Mata Hari type, it was a dude. So we decide to screw with the guy and feed him crap that sounded credible, but wasn't true. I didn't understand how STUPID that was until later after going to the Intelligence School and working in the field. As far as we knew the information was bogus, but it was close enough to the possibility that it could be true and we might have steered him to it. Get it?

There is an old Navy saying that "loose lips sink ships". I can assure you, the Commander of the Chinese Navy doesn't have the 7th Fleets Battle Plan on his Desk to be perused at his leisure. That Battle Plan is a SECRET.

