A plea to Healers


85 Troll Priest
You could let bad players die, but for what?

-They are not going to learn anything.
-They are not going to get better.
-They are not going to accept responsibility for getting themselves (and especially the group) killed.
-They are not going to listen to anything you have to say, no matter how polite or constructive.

And the reason they are like that is because Blizzard has spent the past 3 solid years - and from the latest info posted, that's about to stretch out to at least the next 2+ years as well - rewarding them for apathy, obnoxious behavior, piss-poor attitudes and bad game play skills.

Letting them die accomplishes nothing. All it does is slow the run down because you have to stop and rez them afterward (because they certainly can't be bothered to run back).
85 Blood Elf Priest
Of course in a PuG, there will always be people who queue as a tank to obtain a faster queue, and the tanks with enough ilvl to be able to get into the dungeon. I do agree, that yes things have gotten a bit easier in cata, but there is only so much us healers can do.

Refusing to heal the tank, because he has dps gear on is really, not a choice unless you want to be kicked or harassed. The only thing we can really do when we have obtain tanks like this through the Dungeon finder system is to leave.

The dps usually agree with the tank if anything goes wrong, because if the tank leaves, the queue will be longer, but if the healer leaves, they will get an instant queue with the tank.
Edited by Vallentha on 1/16/2012 5:01 PM PST
90 Blood Elf Mage
Yeah I gots to put it out here!

The game has gone from hard to pretty easy at this time, since folks get gear so easy now.

90 Pandaren Shaman
I honestly never ever see this situation anymore. I don't know why. I was healer for many years. I never check peoples gear...unless something really silly happens...like a tank getting 2-3 shotted...or we all slowly die...meaning no heals.

I don't know why anyone does it. I will offer advice if someone struggles, however, I am more apt to start offhealing if my healer is in trouble.

I guess I am just lucky to not get jerks...(I have had jerks but I don't tolerate them. I will also gladly spend 2 hours in a dungeon with random folks if someone is genuinely trying to learn to heal or tank.
90 Draenei Priest
I am a big fan of letting people die. I don't heal stupid. If your pet has growl on I am not healing it, if you stand in the fire I think you are suicidal & won't stand in your way, if you are a dps who pulls yet can't take the hit I will laugh at your corpse. & don't even ask me for a rez...

Yet I have never ever ever been removed from any group. I think the majority of groups will realize that the tank is the one who sucks & if not don't be afraid to say something. I am not saying to be rude/yell & make a scene lol but saying tank you are extra squishy did you forget to put on your tank gear? You die before my heal has time to cast lol
Mostly because I am a good judge of my group and if the group as a whole is going to be not worth my time I will leave.

I do agree that we shouldn't baby people. If we as healers allow people to get away with something they will just continue on thinking everyone should. If you heal the stupid dps who stands in the fire they will think that it is ok to stand in fire and that the healer should just heal through it....

Let them die and they MAY learn their lesson and be alittle bit smarter. Sure not everyone will but they still died lol But honestly in all my time I find the majority do learn. The first few times they die you see them paying more attention, not standing in stuff, etc... & that feels great. I think the real key is not to flip out about it just act like it doesn't matter. They die or they live no biggie to me. If they ask I will be like fire=bad lol

But at the same time there comes a point where you trying to teach a lesson is just not worth it. Losing one stupid dps is not going to matter but losing your tank is prob going to be a wipe and hurts you and the rest of the group that didn't deserve it. Plus wastes your time and energy.

I would either say right away dude I can't keep you alive & refuse to heal a dps trying to tank & vote kick him out. Or leave myself for a better group. But if in my gear I am not struggling to heal them then I don't see the issue? I think you just have to think about what is worth your time/energy/effort and what isn't. But it wouldn't be the same for each healer.

If you are raid geared now the heroics are insanely easy & boring now. I have been running them on my pally healer for VP once a day & I am so bored I just spam denounce/holy shock most of the time and keep EF on the tank lol
90 Night Elf Druid
epic necro
90 Human Priest
Iono man I just say nothing and heal in dungeons. Don't care what anyone else does. I just heal everything and leave. Sometimes I even throw in a "<3" for no reason in party chat.

epic necro
90 Blood Elf Priest
I almost never run into tanks that cause serious problems in LFD. I can think of one in all of MoP and two in Cata. And since I only heal dungeons while gearing, all of my experience is from the gearing up process, healing in greens and blues. Other than those three total tanks, I've basically never had an issue on any of my four characters that healed dungeons in Cata and three in MoP.

I've also never been blamed for a wipe (I hardly ever see a wipe in a 5m). I've never been told that I'm a bad healer in a dungeon. I've only been kicked once, and it was by an entire group of idiots in Stonecore at Cata launch who couldn't grasp the idea of "AoE the crystals before they grow and kill the healer" and were offended that I even suggested the idea. Had to be one in a million.

And while I'm usually a fairly decent priest, I am not a good druid or shaman and I was not a good paladin when I was running 5mans. I am not exceptional. I am merely decent and willing to make a good-faith effort.

If you are having this problem often enough to come to the forums and complain about it, you should probably look at the common factor in the equation.
Edited by Kaels on 3/22/2013 12:17 PM PDT
90 Blood Elf Mage
epic necro

He necroed his own thread from *more than a year ago*

90 Night Elf Druid
that is what makes it epic
90 Night Elf Hunter
Even more epic that he is whining about 5 mans LooooL!
90 Blood Elf Mage
Somebody go necro a thread bit****g about the changes implemented in this darn Burning Crusade.
90 Draenei Priest
I've never been kicked from a group either. In rare instances like on my horde priest who is in pvp gear or was in not so great gear I'll just have to say "I have to drink I can't keep up at this rate" or something. Otherwise it's always "you were globalled" or "I won't heal through standing in stuff sorry".
90 Blood Elf Priest
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