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    JOHN METZGER contributes Let us give thanks for chaos and logos and implicate order; for dark matter, bright galaxies, and nonlocal connections; for crystals
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      JOHN METZGER contributes

      Let us give thanks for chaos and logos and
      implicate order; for dark matter, bright galaxies,
      and nonlocal connections; for crystals and
      continents; for Lucy's skull and Mary Leakey's
      footprints in volcanic ash; for Thales' water,
      Heraclitus' fire, and Pythagorean forms; for the
      Indian zero, algebra, and algorithms; for the
      oscillations of the Yin and the Yang; for
      acupuncture, Su Sung's astronomical clock, and
      Huang Tao P'i's textile technology; for Arabic
      alchemists on the Old Silk Road and Ibn Sina's
      Canon of Medicine; for Euclid and Newton and "God
      playing dice"; for Kepler's snowflake and Kekule's
      dream; for Mendel's monastery peas and the genetic
      Tetragrammaton on the spiral staircase of life; for
      fractals, ferns and fall foliage; for caterpillars
      and cocoons; for the infant's first cry; for
      Pachebel's canon; for stained glass windows,
      Leeuwenhoek's microscope, and the Galileo probe;
      for the World Wide Web to help us become conscious
      of cosmic interconnectedness; but most of all, let
      us give thanks for the twin passions which make us
      fully human--the yearning to transcend the
      boundaries of time and space by learning and by

      Ingrid Shafer



      Experiencer and experienced are two sides of the
      same coin. Ok. Without the thing to be experienced
      there would be no experiencer. So experiencing then
      would have no relevance. So, it's good as being
      dead. And then what?


      What an amazing conclusion you jump to! Still, it
      is a very understandable reaction that people hear
      such statements as "no experiencer" and "no doer"
      to be a negation of life. The truth is exactly the

      Please consider that any such analogy is intended
      to merely illustrate something difficult to
      understand by comparing to something easier to
      understand. So let us suppose instead a living
      analogy. Here is a white rabbit. The mind and
      senses give you many bits of apparently separate
      information, such as feels soft, looks white, it
      moves, etc. However, to attempt to actually
      separate the ideas will kill the rabbit! The mind
      is separating and making these bits into different
      ideas simply because that is what a mind does to
      differentiate a rabbit from say a skunk. To really
      separate them is the end of the rabbit. You can
      only *imagine* to separate the white from the
      softness of the fur, without actually destroying

      The coin analogy is the same, it illustrates the
      actual inseparability in comparison to *imagined
      concepts* of two things. Nonduality is "not two",
      remember? Does this help any?


      There never was an experiencer nor an experience.
      There are but seemingly ongoing events of which the
      thoughts of "experiencer and experienced" are but a
      few. A nice analogy is that of a closed long tin
      filled with water which is heated from below. When
      cooking, bubbles form and rise from the bottom and
      they will 'notice' the other bubbles, similar but
      never the same. While rising, the water cools again
      and the bubbles disappear - but on the scale of the
      entire tin, it can be said nothing happened as no
      bubble escaped from it and it contains only water.
