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[–]Whysoblunted 20 points21 points ago

Can someone explain how this interaction works or when you would use the whip to trigger it properly ?

[–]jumpboy88 59 points60 points ago

If under any case your opponent manages to get rid of Obzedat before you get to your end step, you can use the whip's ability to bring him back from the graveyard onto the battlefield on a following turn, triggering Obzedat's ability again for life loss / gain. Then, at your end step, you stack Obzedat's exile ability over the whip's exile, effectively bringing Obzedat back from the dead permanently.

[–]fuckengineering 13 points14 points ago

How does Obzzy trump the "if it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else" of the whip? Isn't exiling leaving the battlefield, so the whip overrides the ability? Am I wrong about that?

[–]Japeth -2 points-1 points ago

It's a matter of how the triggers stack. Obzedat leaves for his special exile, then the whip checks to see if he's still there in order to exile him, he's not, so he dodges that trigger. Then since he was the cause of his exile, next turn he comes back in.

I had the same question as you, that his exiling was him "leaving the battlefield," but Wizards has confirmed it works in this exploitable way instead. (Granted I can't find the link right now.)

[–]psymunn 3 points4 points ago

I think the key point of confusion is why when his special exile happens, it isn't seen as him leaving the battlefield. It 'is' but the whip only replaces leaving the battlefield to anywhere that isn't the exile zone

[–]more_exercise 0 points1 point ago

triggers stack.

Technically, "triggered ability and replacement effect," but only pedants and jerks (I repeat myself) care.

[–]TheGuyInAShirtAndTie 0 points1 point ago

*And judges.

[–]TesticularArsonist 0 points1 point ago

He said that. ;p

[–]gravityplanx -1 points0 points ago

It's not about him being exiled or about any stacking of abilities. Obzedat says he will re-enter play as part of his EOT ability, so that will happen.

You can get the same effect using Rescue from the Underworld.

[–]phantomkelt 0 points1 point ago

Can you explain what you mean by "not stacking of abilities"?

[–]gravityplanx 0 points1 point ago

Obzedat's ability says to return him to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep. As long as that ability can reference the exiled obzedat, it will trigger.

The whip's replacement effect could occur, but it would not change Obzedat's ability. This is because either way, obzedat leaves play with a trigger that says he should return at your upkeep. The only way to stop this from happening would be to force the obzedat to change zones after it leaves play.