

Should fireplace fires be banned?

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  1. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    Should fireplace fires be banned?
    Jeffrey Earl Warren








    Is this decision truly about air quality or global warming?


    Of course, that position is politically absurd.




    Then there is this question: Why do we burn?

    We stoke our hearths for two reasons.











    Jeffrey Earl Warren lives in St. Helena. His columns can be read at www.jeffwarren.com.
  2. notherbob

    notherbob Active Member

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    Cars and trucks run 24 /7/365. Fireplaces make only a small contribution part of the year from far fewer sources. The big money in fossil fuels and autos naturally want to blame someone else.

    Influence peddling is alive and well as is fear mongering.
  3. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    no fires in a fireplace. wow, next thing you know we can't take a dump in the toilet cause of the damage we do.
  4. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I agree...too far and too few for them to make a difference.

    This is not London in the dark years.
  5. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    Do you mean I stopped eating meat for nothing? It's not the cow's gas? :D
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Never trusted a vegetarian. Can't trust a person that turns into a salad shooter when they get the runs.:p: ;)
  7. jman

    jman Active Member

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    Whoooo...didn't need that visual at 6 am this morning...LOL
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    This is what happens when you let libs run things. Nanny state to the max. So much for individual freedom.
  9. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    It hasn't been 'libs' running this country for the last 7 years...
    It's been politicians.
  10. CowboyJeff

    CowboyJeff New Member

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    Who cares what socialist California does......Texas will never go along with that.......thank goodness!!!!
  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    sadly, politicians are all we have now in washington and too many other places. Leaders with brains and courage and charactor are in very short supply.
  12. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    No worries fellas. In a few years global warming itself will eliminate the need for such devices. "Gather 'round the iceplace kids..........." :)
  13. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    well at least that will resolve the debate.
  14. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    If San Fran wants to address public safety(i am not saying anything about sexual preferences if thats what you clods thought:~ hehe ok so it crossed my mind too) they need to flatten out some of those gawd-forsaken roads.
  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
  16. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    as a Californian, I can give a little more context here. First, fireplaces are crap. They don't heat at all and many have no system in place to clean the particulates in the smoke. Wood stoves on the other hand are used throughout CA in rural areas because they generate far more heat -- you could actually heat your home with a wood stove whereas a fireplace does not provide heat outside a 10 foot radius and requires far more fuel. Modern wood stoves recycle and combust the particulates. Most stove manufacturers make inserts that go directly into the fireplace.

    The argument that poor people need fireplaces is BS. You visit any rural home and you'll find a wood stove, not a fireplace. Rich people use fireplaces to show off. People who live in warmer climates use fireplaces. Nobody in their right mind would heat a house with a fireplace.
  17. Nors

    Nors Benched

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    Nobody is ever going to legislate that I can't burn wood in my fireplace. Sure seems like a more natural way to recycle resources (wood) and heat my house.
  18. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    But you can burn cleaner w/ some sort of catalytic system (or other non-catalytic) systems - that's what legislation should focus on for new construction.
  19. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    Well let them come in my house and write me a ticket. You better get a search warrant first to find out what I'm burning. I suppose next you're going to tell me not to fry bologna because of the smell.
  20. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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