Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Hallowed ground? Really??








superstreamingtweetingfacebookingstormchaser said...

"The majority of christians are being manipulated to repudiate our Constitutional guarantee of religious freedom"

So is there a chance that the majority of Muslims are being manipulated to believe in "Fight them (infidels) and Allah will punish them by your (muslims) hands" And if we are going to be using degrading terms like "teabaggers" to describe Americans what degrading term would you suggest we call Muslims? Or can we not do that because we must be tolerant except for when it comes to christian teabaggin foxnews republicans haha!

The Queen Mother said...

Thanks for putting the wording down that eloquently describes the fear that I have for our country. The very values that we use to advertise our justification in invading Iraq and Afghanistan are now under attack here.

If our Educational system devoted as much time to civics as we devote to athletics maybe there wouldn't be an issue as this has become because the fearmongers would have no teeth.

Chuck Doswell said...


What muslims do or do not do is irrelevant to my point, which you've quite evidently failed to grasp.

As for "teabaggers" ... sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you. Are you feeling offended by "teabagger"? Check out my previous blogs.

superstreamingtweetingfacebookingstormchaser said...

Haha! No the "teabaggers" thing did not offend me! I am neither a "teabagger" or a "hope and change person". Just saying if I had the choice of living in a neighborhood of "teabaggers" or "muslims" you can figure out which one I would choose! Which one would you choose? Keep in mind most of those "teabaggers" water their grass haha!

Chuck Doswell said...


You seem enormously amused by your own humor. What's the sound of one hand clapping?

superstreamingtweetingfacebookingstormchaser said...

I am amused easily! Just pushing your buttons Chuck! You and I would probably be best friends if we were neighbors haha! Of course my grass would look better than yours! But you are about a 1000 times smarter than I will ever be when it comes to science/weather so I promise I will never try to argue those points with you! So back to the sticks and stones thing, what should I call muslims since it will never hurt them?

Chuck Doswell said...


I'd prefer you not waste my time (and that of my readers) with "pushing my buttons", thanks. Do you really need my help to dream up pejorative names for muslims? Somehow, I doubt that.


It may surprise you that I, as a Christian and also a strict constitutional constructionist, have no legal or constitutional problem with that mosque being built there.

Is it insensitive and thoughtless to pick a spot so close to where their comrades, who (as you alluded) they are not condemning forcefully enough if at all, committed horrifying crimes of mass slaughter, and so soon afterward? To me, yes. Being a jerk isn't unconstitutional, however. They do have a right to do so, much as that gaggle of deranged pseudo-Christian assholes from the so-called "Westboro Baptist Church" has the constitutional right to picket funerals from public rights-of-way (via freedoms of assembly, speech and religious expression).

What do you think of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League's rationale for opposing the mosque (which shares some similarities with the other groups you mentioned/disparaged, but not exactly the same)? See

I agree with them, at least on this issue. It's not an argument of rights, but about what's right.

Chuck Doswell said...


I see it as something of a stretch to call the islamic terrorists "comrades" of the folks wanting to build a muslim community center near ground zero. Of course, religious moderates have their own issues to consider as I (and you) have pointed out.

I just shared a link on my FB profile to an editorial by Keith Olberman on this subject which nicely summarizes my position.

Regarding the ADL's comments ... given the controversy, it might be expedient for the local muslims to slink away and find another site. I wonder if they'd be allowed to build their community center anywhere within the confines of their community? However much I feel for the victims of the WTC attack, though, the issue of fear-mongering and fanning the flames of religious hatred in this country is more important, imho. And the ADL might not be the most dispassionate voice in this dust-up.

superstreamingtweetingfacebookingstormchaser said...


I really do need your help dreaming up a pejorative to describe muslims!! Obviously you came up with “teabaggers” and did not get that from “faux cnn” so help me out! And I am one of your readers and have been for a long time!!

Chuck Doswell said...


I'm glad you're a fan, but ... I'm not going to help you with this. Go search out the teabagger sites. I'm sure they have some nice terms for muslims.

superstreamingtweetingfacebookingstormchaser said...

Ok! I really went to google for help in finding a pejorative for Muslims using "teabaggers web sights" as a search term. The only thing that came up was a really bad thing that I won't even discuss here! Do those teaparty people really engage in that type act? That is disturbing! Do they know that is what they stand for? WOW!