Some say arrogance fuels fracking anger

AP Wire
Jul 30, 2013














But Engelder said the industry can't just focus on positives.



But some industry critics are skeptical.











Speaking of arrogance, President Obama claims the Keystone oil pipeline from Canada would only add 50 jobs in the U.S.! Even the state department claims 5,000-6,000 jobs. Wing scratching head...I thought he was waking up thinking about job creation every day!
This Chicago math is really hard to figure out!
The Keystone pipeline, which will create thousands of jobs and increase North American energy independence, is supported by business, labor unions, and two-thirds of the American people! Why does this President thumb his arrogant nose at this project?


Really Wing, we are all confident you know the answer to the question you pose; oh it's rhetorical, I get it now.

Mystic Michael

What a propaganda piece!

Of course there is a lack of transparency and poor communication. That's because the industry has something to hide. They know there is no environmentally-safe way to conduct fracking. But they flat out don't care - because there's money to had in that thar ground! So much for industry "regulating itself" in the public interest.

As for the arrogance, that just goes with the territory. It's the oil & gas industry, after all: the same industry that regularly extorts billions in unnecessary corporate welfare & other subsidies from the US Treasury, simply because it's filthy rich, and can afford to hire the most cunning, most well-connected Washington lobbyists money can buy. And thus the game gets played, year after year ad nauseum...

Keystone XL? Don't get me started.

After the initial labor outlay to get the thing built, the industry would need no more than a hundred or so people for routine maintenance - at the most. That's it. So much for the so-called "jobs machine".

The great irony is, the tar sands oil - being the lowest-grade, filthiest petro product in existence - isn't even intended for the North American market. If the petro corporations get their way, they'll be shipping it to Third World markets - China in particular - where their product commands a premium. Thus the famous "game over for the fight against global warming" remarks from the climate science community, some 98% of whom oppose Keystone XL. So much for "energy independence".

The State Department review process is a joke. Multiple news reports (for those who read) have revealed that it is riddled with conflicts of interest and corruption - the very reason why the President ordered the project to be re-reviewed last year. Does no one even recall that this happened?


Maybe surreptitious fracking in New York has adversely impacted your fracking brain


Your wise not to wasting your time on your keyboard Vlad and just post links and facts in retort. He'll spin off into Weiner land in a few days.

Mystic Michael

So sorry that you dislike encountering information that conflicts with your preconceived notions. Facts is facts.


Here educate yourself if you dare:
"In work completed in the last 18 months at Penn State, it has been shown that certain ionic liquids, ILs, can be used to separate bitumen from tar or oil sands and oil from beach contaminated sand. The separation is usually conducted in conjunction with a non-polar solvent to lower the viscosity of the tar or bitumen and facilitate separation. The separation occurs at room temperature and does not result in the generation of waste process water. Essentially all of the bitumen is recovered in a very clean form, with no detectable mineral fines, which interact preferentially with the IL, and no contamination from the IL. The minerals (sand) are also recovered in an uncontaminated form after removing residual IL with small amounts of (cold) water. Because of the unique properties of ILs, the water and IL used in this process can be readily separated, recovered and recycled through the system".


...and if your drinking the koolaid about the safety of the pipeline itself:


What is your problem with profit? You attack issues, always, by bringing up big money this or big oil company that. (ie) "there's money to had in that thar ground!" Everyone on this post is profitable including, you! Profit is apart of freedom and the American capitalistic experience that saves the world from tyranny. So, if you don't like us or you being profitable in America then, get the hell out.

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