

Dr. Ivar Giaever  (Source:
Dr. Ivar Giaever announced his resignation Tuesday, September 13






From: Ivar Giaever []

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: I resign from APS

Dear Ms. Kirby




The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.



Best regards,


Ivar Giaever


Nobel Laureate 1973



Ivar Giaever




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RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By dgingerich on 9/15/2011 6:00:05 PM , Rating: 0
I believe that is exactly what Bildan is saying...

RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By dgingerich on 9/15/2011 6:38:32 PM , Rating: 5
To clarify:

The GW crowd says the data and their conclusions are "incontrovertible", and that they can't certainly be wrong. This is drawing a very arrogant conclusion, saying that their error can't exist.

This scientist is saying that their statement is monstrously arrogant and that there is always the possibility that they are wrong, and that their data needs to be proven more thoroughly. Their error is certainly possible to exist.

This fits quite well with that Arthur C Clark quote.

RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By someguy123 on 9/15/2011 6:39:23 PM , Rating: 2
I don't really understand how his quote applies in this context.

Nowhere does he imply that it's impossible, but that it's not proven possible, and that labeling it as proven without evidence is unscientific. Basically he's saying they aren't in a neutral position. Clarke's quote is directed and old people that claim "possible or impossible", not those demanding neutrality.

