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its own budget. the law says that the president must submit a budget by the first part of february. and kelly ayotte. >> good to be with you. >> greta: and you're not responsible for the president, but are you curious? >> i'm very curious where it is. you think about it, i'm glad the senate democrats are finally going to do a budget in the senate, but basically he's rendered himself irrelevant because his budget is apparently going to come after the house puts forth its budget, after the senate does its budget, and so, where is he on this issue? you'd think he would have a fiscal blueprint for the country. >> greta: now what i don't get? you're a lawyer, i'm a lawyer and maybe i'm too literal about it he's obligated to do it i think by the first monday in february. presidents before him have also failed and not the first time the president-- and he's failed a number of times. and when all of these presidents, the reason why we have the rules, we have some semblance of order. he said now the end of march and now we hear into april. what's the point of these rules and these laws? >>


a republican form of government that we're not exempting ourselves from the operation of laws. so, it's a small money saver, but i think it speaks to a larger principle. >> and i guess under the constitution you can't do it. you have it wait. you can't adjust your salaries, congressional salaries until the next term, right? you can pass it now, but-- >> until the next election, this would take effect right after the next election and really, that the 27th amendment was put there to prevent pay increases, but we have to abide by the text of i don't want to lose support for the bill by raising the 27th amendment issue. >> what's sort of interesting, this is bipartisan, and you have a democrat on board with you. >> barra from california and i think it speaks to frustration that people have with congress. for example, we talked about the whole issue not doing a budget. required by law and haven't for four years and because we shamed them with the no budget, no pay, they've done a budget. so i think it's the idea na the american people, they have to avoid by rules fthey don't abide by rules there's

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