Symbol renames in APR are going to cause a problem for the web server. Apache 2.0.36 is using the same major MMN as 2.0.35, but it isn't compatible, because apr_explode_time was removed (as a single example, there are more). We need to have some way to fix these problems. My opinion would be that symbol renames stop becoming macros. Instead, the function is renamed, and a new function is added that wraps the old function. This is EXACTLY what Greg wrote in his doc earlier today. Also, the apr_compat.h file should be removed now. Any further compat macros need to be put in the same file as the original function/macro. If we use the apr_compat.h header, then we haven't made things backwards compatible, because they need to add the new header to their source file. Ryan ---------------------------------------------- Ryan Bloom 645 Howard St. San Francisco, CA