EVG 9 Page 39 and said, Jack he was director then of the Water Management District he said, Jack, I know you were down here last week, and I promised you I would vote for this thing. Well, he [said], now I cannot; look here, look at this audience, look outside; these are people I work for. He says, you ain't got no support for this thing; everybody is against you. He said, my own people are against it. He said, Jack, I cannot do this; I got to vote to kill it. Then he killed it in-house. G: What exactly was this again? J: It was a structure, a big one. G: The broader plan. This was Hendry County? J: Hendry County project. They were trying to get more drainage so that they could drain all those wetlands. That night, I was really tired when I left there. I was staying over at a friend's house in Fort Lauderdale. He went and got the car. At that time, I was limping for some reason. I do not remember why, but I had a cane and I was limping. He said, I will go get the car; it is way on off down there. The place was packed with people, and everybody had the whole parking lot taken up. He said, let me go get it; I will come back and pick you up. He came back and got me, but by the time he got back, some guy walks up behind me, tapped me on the shoulder and he said, we gonna get you, boy; we gonna kill you; we gonna kill your wife and all your kids; you wait and see. Some guy walks up behind him, which was a guy from Hendry County, who was in the same car with him, puts his arm around his neck and says shut up. They walked out behind a big long Lincoln or Cadillac limousine ooh whee. I do not know who they were, but they looked awful. Something like some of these guys you see on television, the ones who carry machine guns in the back of their car. Anyway, he threatened me. I informed the law about it. G: Was that something that happened frequently? J: No G: So, this was not a recurring event type thing? J: It happened all the time. Oh yeah, I carried a gun with me all the time. I always carried a gun under my coat behind here. G: These were landowners or people in that bank? J: Yes. They were affected because they wanted to use land they had that was flooded. Their land was almost a lake. I understood how they felt; I really did. I am not mad at [them], and I never have been. He was just mad. He got beat. He got beat bad. That killed