Tucker Carlson: Clueless About Historical Fact Government Engages in Mass Murder

Kurt Nimmo
October 23, 2007

For silver-spooner Tucker Carlson, it is nothing short of stupendous that more than a third of Americans suspect “either the federal government assisted in the 9/11 terror attacks or took no action to stop them so the country could go to war in the Middle East.”

See video clip of Carlson’s astonishment:

Mr. Carlson, presumably an intelligent person, is apparently unable or unwilling to pick up a history or book and discover the obvious—government habitually initiates war for financial or territorial reasons, commits unspeakable acts of mass murder, engages in ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and starves or works to death in forced labor camps millions of its own citizens.

Carlson is no different than millions of other Americans, long and studiously brainwashed—methodically through education and popular feel-good myths reinforced by television and corporate media—that our rulers are somehow different and would do no such thing, never mind the serial crimes committed in their names against millions of others, from Southeast Asia to Iraq and beyond.

Of course, this never enters into the equation, as Carlson and his guests are stupefied to the point of incomprehension by the prospect such an appreciable number of Americans understand all too well the government was more than capable of killing 3,000 people on September 11, 2001, and the fact the victims are largely Americans, primarily middle and working class, does not matter in the least. In fact, this was a plus as it—as Bush might intone—“catapult the propaganda.”

According to corporate columnist Bob Franken, the problem is “you have people who take advantage” of the demonstrable fact government engages in serial murder, including “talk radio hosts and people who blog and are under no requirement to say anything that has any sanity to it,” in other words, people who understand history, are not brainwashed by American exceptionalism, and actually exercise their free speech rights guaranteed by the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. As Franken views it, this is apparently insanity.

Mr. Franken did not mention a particular talk show radio host by name, but considering most radio and television talk show hosts are neocon cheerleaders and outright psychopaths in favor of killing thousands if not millions of people in far away lands who never did anything to them, we can assume who he is talking about.

As 9/11 truth has moved from the street to the television studio, thus prompting the histrionics of Bill Maher and the fascist rantings of Glenn Beck, we can expect more of this sort of thing, as it is now or never for our corporate overlords, nervous we are about to boldly step forward and reveal for all the little man behind the curtain, the not so great and powerful Oz.

Ghandi said it best . . .

In the timeless words of Mahatma Ghandi, which are now more important than ever . . .

"First they ridicule you, then there is violent opposition to what you are saying, then, you win"

(apologies if I got a word or two wrong)

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know it - now"
- Patrick Henry


I think the Ghandi quote is-

First they ignore you
then they ridicule you
then they fight you
then you win.

George Orwell 1984


I believe this is the other quote you may be mixing Ghandi's with:


Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

Just another humble truth and justice seeker.

Tucker contradicts himself:

At -5:30 Tucker says: "I don't believe things that have no basis in fact"

So why does he believe the official story?

After they discussed that 1/3 of America believes that the Bush administration did 9/11 and that they cannot believe that so much people would be willing to believe such outragous things he says:

"It upsets me too much, I don't wanna know these kinds of facts of America."

So he believes things that are not based on fact and doesn 't want to know facts that "upset" him.

Well, 9/11 truth IS UPSETTING, but still it is truth.
Grow a backbone Tucker and look into the facts.
Also look at -2:08!

This is a Neo-Con Poster boy undergoing a Rude Awakening

Beyond the Charade of "intellectual political discourse", the network shills, Washington Post con-artists etc a FIRESTORM OF TRUTH is building up.

What happened at the Bill Maher show is just a drop in the ocean of what is going to happen.

According to a recent GCN- Alex Jones show, most if not ALL of the LAPD itself knows 911 was an inside job.

Factor in military veterans, existing military who realize that they have been lied to and manipulated not just about Iraq but also about 911 itself, the Bush Cabal & Media Cheerleaders are soon going to be brought to FULL accountability.

All the Blackwaters in hell are not going to be able to help them.

The charade that is been put on by the Executive, the Congress, The Senate, the "4th Estate" has its days numbered.

That number is 911.


Tucker is not alone in his fear.


One more reason, why we should not slow down.

80 million with no representation....

A third of all Americans is what....around 80 million people.
80 million people with no mainstream media representation whatsoever.
In a so called democratic country its quite astonishing,

George Orwell 1984


its over 100 million people

Flat minimum

of at least 100 Million being very conservative.
In reality I bet it is more like 130+ Million.

This fact actually saddens me, we have well over 100 Million people in this country that KNOW that this Treasonous little moron was never elected, lied continuously to take the country into an unjust illegal occupation of aggression, KNOW that 9/11 was an inside job and yet where is the massive outrage?
Why aren't there 10s of millions in the streets with fire in their eyes ready to TAKE this government & our Media back?

Personally I find that both embarrassing and disgusting.

Matt Drudge is his news director?

Matt Drudge is his news director?

Matt Drudge is his news director?

Holy Shit!

Why doesn't this provoke a huge reaction?

Talk about an agenda driven program.


What's funny is the sarcastic way Tucker says the media were "outed" by this revelation, as if, on the contrary, it means absolutely nothing that Matt Drudge is his news director.

No, Tucker, on the contrary, this revelation confirms all of our worst suspicions about an idiot like you and your show.

Cognitive Dissonance?

You get the feeling that Tucker is really trying to understand HOW 1/3 of Americans could believe such "absurd" things - like the idea that members of our government were involved in perpetrating 9/11.

Sounds like classic cognitive dissonance to me - when he says "I don't want to know these facts about America." He is irrationally defending the government just like he would defend his uncle if he were accused of child abuse.

Then again, maybe Tucker is PRETENDING to have cognitive dissonance and to pass that idea on to millions of people.

Tucker is the one who called David Ray Griffin "sinful" for his ideas - on his only appearance on mainstream TV.


How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet six years later, the government cannot explain it?


your assessment is right on.


Yes, I Have a Very Close Friend

who is a self-described "conspiracy buff" who was really into Waco and OKC, and who has even questioned the moon landings, who absolutely refuses to accept the possibility that our government could have been involved in 9/11. Whenever I have emailed information or links to him, he tells me not to send him anymore paranoid 9/11 conspiracy links because "it makes me nauseous."

So what he is saying is not that crazy nutjobs are making him sick, but the very idea that our government was complicit is too hard for him to consider. Which is why we need critical mass to break the glass of cognitive dissonance.

BTW guys, AlterNet has another top thread about 9/11 by Chalmers Johnson. "Bush's Response to 9/11 Was Deadlier Than the Attacks Themselves." Come weigh in! It is not moderated. Just sign in a handle and reply to one of the top comments beneath the article. Change the subject heading and fire away. Let's inform these so-called progressives!

The Maher Episode

stirred a huge mainstream reaction. Simply awesome!

Tucker is a dainty, useful idiot propagandist. Handcuff this loser!

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91

I like how they go on and on

I like how they go on and on with all this psycho babble about why so many people believe in these conspiracy theories, as if there is no good reason to doubt the official story. Are these supposed authorities even aware of the facts of this case? They sit there and prattle on, like everything they say is imbued with some kind of god-like authority. Three men defending the official story, and not one voice of dissent is permitted into the discussion to challenge their haughty assertions. Not once was a single fact pointing to 9/11 being an inside job addressed. That is a great way to win a debate: just don't let any voices into the debate that can challenge you. Wonderful job, mainstream media, once again. You guys are consistent if nothing else. You deserve every lost reader and viewer that abandons you in favor of the new (real) news media - the internet. Good riddance, Your hey days were great while they lasted.

The whole time I watched

The whole time I watched that I couldn't help but think about the 1/3 of the population that thought they looked like fools for not even considering the possibility that that same 1/3 of the population was right. You can't profess to hold the higher ground of the intellectual majority while you're rapidly becoming the minority. They'll just distrust you more for your arrogance.

If they talked about the facts

they would have to admit there is a "there" there.

Ad hominem attacks work much better when pretending to be stupid.

I must say, though, that the two panelists look pretty uncomfortable spewing the party line, as if they have seen enough to know that 9/11 Truth is for real.


Where has the enthousiasm gone; is the tipping point in sight?

Keep the pressure on!

Their defense is weakening and spirits are low.. we will break through

What I say to people who tout Popular Mechanics

Look at their book.... read it.... they support the government line 100%.... unwaivering..... there is not one point that they even somewhat question..... the government story according to Popular Mechanics is 100% correct.... right down to the FACT that cell phones are perfectly capable of recieving signal flying at 40,0000 ft over Pennsylvania Dutch country
Together in Truth!

First and Ten

Our Ball.

Time to get the ball across the 50 yard line.

We need to increase the pressure on the weak points in the msm while reaching out even more to the peace, anti-war and impeachment movements to create synergy.

Civility within the movement and with the general public is paramount.


Its more like time for a touchdown

with a point after

Well well well

Isn't it funny how they have 3 people on that panel, sitting there all in agreement on an issue that they WILL NOT EVEN DISCUSS ? They talk about how the media is ignoring the issue then Tucker says "yes I ignore it because it makes me angry that anyone would feel this way!"

Then they proceed to all agree that it must be because people are frustrated with the war. ANYTHING to avoid discussing 9/11.

Nobody wants to discuss 9/11. All they want to do is say "conspiracy theorists" over and over and over. Fuck that. Tucker was shaking in his BOOTS. The Washington Post guy didn't know what to say. This is it, Loose Change Final Cut will be the final blow to these fools.

4 months

It took me 4 months of solid research before I accepted that the government story was highly questionable. This is not an accusation that the people who speak out about this are simple shooting from the cuff.... We are very well researched and knowledgable...

The people who don't want to believe this are doing just that..... believing.... they are not researching this at all.... they are wrapping a warm MSM blanket around themselves and tucking themselves in for the night.

Then they judge those who were willing to take the time and do the research.

This country really sickens me but I can not blame those who choose to be blind.... it's very hard to escape the MSM's red hot poker in the eye
Together in Truth!

Excellent points, my family

Excellent points, my family thinks I am crazy for being a part of the truth movement but they will NOT EVEN LOOK AT ONE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE that contradicts their foolish unquestioning belief in the official story.

I've tried talking to them, but they won't listen.
I've tried giving them DVDs, but they won't watch them.

I'm sure there are millions of other americans out there just like my family, with the "I already know it can't be true so why should I watch a movie on it" attitude.

I just can't imagine being that scared or closed-minded or both!

With all respect:

"Loose Change Final Cut will be the final blow to these fools"?

Uh, I hate to disappoint you, but the road ahead is a helluva lot longer and harder than that.

Brace yourself for a long haul.

Turning the Tables.

I'm sick of seeing Bill Maher run into the audience to take the truth threat away and throw him out. I'm ready to see the mob run up to Bill Maher and Tucker Carlson and throw them the fuck out of our country. Non-violently of course. But damn it. They are the ones who should be chased and thrown out.

Please contact Tucker Carlson

and politely ask him to view the Norman Mineta testimony before the 9/11 Commission.

This should raise his cognitive dissonance to unbearable levels as the testimony is from an unimpeachable official source (and broadcast on CSPAN!) and clearly implicates Cheney's involvement in something fishy, no matter how you interpret Mineta's testimony.

He can be emailed at:

Please keep your messages short, concise and POLITE.

We also need to turn the heat up on Bill Maher, I will write a blog on this very soon.



Also mentioned "operation northwoods" to help him ease his way into the truth. worth the try.

He knows.

Don't kid yourself. He knows. I distinctly remember sending Tucker a nice (love note) email about a year and a half ago when he pulled the same act.
It went something like this.
Tucker, Tucker you silly f#$@er
How can you be so certain?
The Truth is there
If you only dare
To look behind the curtain.


I ask you to send a polite, professional request that he look at the video of the Mineta testimony and nothing more (for now).

While some may view this as futile, I think it will act as our own personal psyop on Mr. Carlson. If he receives hundreds of polite and professionally written requests he will either have to look at it or be forced to redouble his conscious denial of an inescapable truth. In either case, the psychological effect will be an increase in his cognitive dissonance until he confronts the truth or has to remove himself from the arena of public discourse. (Win-win for us)

(I don't think we can be 100% certain that he knows, human beings have an amazing capacity for self-delusion and denial.)


my email


With respect I submit that, if you were to direct some research staff to find out a little more about the 1/3 of Americans who believe elements of the current government were somehow involved with the attack on 911, you would find that they comprise a segment of the population who are not only more educated but also more knowledgeable about history, political science and current world events.

I highly doubt that 1/3 of Americans would take such a radical and courageous position that is contrary to all mainstream media reports if they were idiots. You insult them with the label of idiot based on nothing but the fact they have an opinion which is contrary to your apparent belief about 911. Do a little research and I think you will be surprised to discover who is the real idiot.

Here are some of the more prominent people who fall into the one-third who know more about this issue than you do:

Contact Eugene Robinson...

Eugene Robinson

I couldn't find Bob Franken's contact info.

Is it worth it to take the time to contact these boys???

its always worth a try.

its always worth a try. thanks.


My email to Eugene Robinson, cc to Tucker Carlson

Dear Mr. Robinson,

I regret to say that I cancelled my subscription to The Post,
effective September 11 of this year, after being a steady subscriber
and reader for over 30 years. A front-page photo of Osama Bin Laden,
with the story that a newly-released video was genuine, was more than
I could stomach.

Yes, I'm one of those "conspiracy theorists" who doesn't believe the
official story of what happened on 9/11. I'm also an intelligent,
responsible citizen, a lawyer by training, and I'm absolutlely appalled
that other intelligent people in positions of responsibility, such as
yourself and Mr. Carlson, refuse to open your eyes to the possibility
that this administration committed acts of murder and treason.

At the very least, you should examine the evidence that is being
circulated on the Internet (since no mainstream media will touch it),
before you dismiss it as ridiculous. I guarantee you, it will turn
your world upside down.

Are the people on this website crazy?

Are the professors and scholars on this website ignorant?

Are the architects and engineers on this website incompetent?

Over one-third of this country has taken the time to look at the evidence
and has understood the mass deception. The 9/11 Truth Movement is
spreading faster than a California wildfire, and people who don't
"evacuate" the official story will meet a fate befitting their stupidity.

[name deleted]

Raw Story link

Tucker: 'I don't want to know' what Americans believe about 9/11


Tucker your are ignorant about French beliefs on the 911 attacks

Herblay FRANCE

Tucker Carlson you say ... ... ... 911 insdie job ... ... ... "Of course they beleive it in France".

Sorry but you are so ignorant about what the French believe in on this matter. For the moment looking around me I would say that 99% of French people believe that it was Bin Laden that organised the 911 attacks and they could never accept that it was an inside job!. Please get your facts right.

And I can tell you that the French journalists from our national papers are attacking the 911 truthers just like you and your media colleagues.
Anyone here who dares to question the official conspiracy theory is slapped down and put out the door ! Brave popular Thierry Ardisson "Tout le monde en parle" nearly lost his television job like Rosie O'Donnel.

And as your very worried colleague George Monbiot from the Guardian says


we can imagine the virus is still to arrive in France.

What have you guys got that you are reacting like this ? Are you scared of the truth ? We here in France are doing our best to get the truth out

We here in France will be on the "every 11th of the month" 911 truth action ( "Onze Bouge") the Sunday of the 11th of November 2007. I am trying to be heard via my 911 manifeste for the truth but for the moment no national newspaper has accepted to publish it so I have put it up on the internet at

Tucker Carlson I hope that WeAreChange will be heckling you soon via youtube in waiting for the French to wake up !

Yours John

We need you, and you need us

Keep up the good work, you in France.

The media is manipulated there just as it is here. Remember, if the truth goes mainstream, everything that the powers-that-be say and do is up for reexamination.

And the governments and their slyly controlled media don't want that happening. Not in America, not in France, not in Britain. Nowhere do they want it, and they'll do literally anything to stop it. The battle is just beginning.


"we are hiding the fact that millions of people believe this"

well thanks for admitting it tucker!


How are things in San Diego

Greetings from Malaysia.

Many of us must be concerned about the effect of those fires on 911 Truthers in Southern California.

How are you guys doing and how are things there now?

Let us know pls.



Thanks for the concern, it is greatly appreciated. I am fine and so are fellow SD truthers, luckily the fires are barely in SD just SD county, although I feel very badly for everyone who has had to evacuatet heir homes. Bush and the governator will be in town today!!


Glad to hear it. Pls tell everyone to take care

Have you guys seen this? What do you think?

Fox News Runs With Al Qaeda Wildfires Conspiracy Theory

"Neocon mouthpiece channel Fox News continues to run programming today suggesting that Al Qaeda terrorists may have infiltrated the US and started fires in California that have devastated acres of land and have forced one million people from their homes over the past week."


I am thinking of starting a formal truth organization back here in Malaysia.

Only problem is that just about EVERYONE who THINKS back in my country, KNOWS it IS an inside job.

All races, religion backgrounds, political orientation.

Including leaders of my country some of whom I have met personally on this matter.

We are doing things behind the scenes.

Pls see :

Former Prime Minister of Malaysia Dr Mahathir said he had doubts on the "collapse" of the World Trade Centre in New York.

My question is what can we do for you guys back in the States?

My people already know.

What is important now is for AMERICA to wake up.

So is there anything that we can do for you?

Let me know if we can help.

It is going to take Persistance, Courage and SHEER Determination to see this through.

The Real Americans I know HAVE this.

So Never Give Up.




Push them over the edge.

We've got to keep pushing and upping the level of activism, organization, planning, and communication. Don't back down.

"We Was Twicked, We Was Twicked..."

Will be the line all round from these fools when the "truth comes out"(facts are admitted).

Holy crap!

Did you hear what he said at the end?

He didn't want to talk about 9/11 anymore because the facts upset him!

Yes, the truth sometimes is VERY upsetting.

Would he want his doctor to tell him that he DIDN"T have cancer
and go without treatment??

What an idiotic thing to say!!

Don't confuse us with facts

Carlson can't be bothered doing anything obvious like actually interviewing an articulate 9/11 truther.

No, instead he gathers together a couple of his fellow MSM "journalists," and together they blithely psychologize about the presumed irrationality of those who differ with them. (Remember, none of these three clowns ever interview 9/11 truthers, at least not so that any of us hear about it.)

This isn't journalism, this isn't rational examination of anything: It's just propaganda and obfuscation.

These men are disgraces. Their blatherings aren't worth the proverbial warm bucket of piss.

Something Needs To Be Cleared Up

We, the 9/11 truth movement are not accusing the WHOLE administration of perpetuating the attacks of 9/11. Most of you would agree that this is naive. What we know is that there were people inside the government who were capable of doing it and covering it up.

However, all our attackers pretend that 9/11 truthers accuse everyone in the authority of being complicit in staging the attacks. This is certainly not true.

Carlson is an asshole plain and simple

When Carlson accused Greenpeace activists of "terrorism" during the 1985 Pacific Peace Voyage that ended with French secret service under the direction of highly placed ministers in the French government, bombing the Rain Bow Warrior, I knew the guy was off his rocker. I was on that voyage and filmed a good part of it for Greenpeace films. I tried to get live on the Rachell Maddow Show on Air America to tell this right wing hate monger how wrong he is. Maddow's producer thought that this confrontation was too 'incendiary' and decided not to put me on. Carlson is a fool of the first order.

The crowd who claims to

The crowd who claims to distrust government finds it unacceptable to question the government, despite an absurd 9/11 Commission report? Bizarre.

Textbook 'conservative' authoritarianism.

These a-hole pundits intend to associate 9/11 skepticism with mental illness, anti-American views and treason. Of course reality is just the opposite. The political/media establishment is out of line. They helped cover up the truth about 9/11. They helped sell the notion that police state tactics=protection from terror attacks. They helped cheerlead as the Bush administration pushed the radical notion of a 'unitary executive.'

the silly affectation , thebowtie is gone

but not the damn lies.Fucker carlson is a lousy actor; his mock surpise and phony incredulity
paint him as complicit in the coverup and disinfo disemenation of the 911 false flag ,mass murder event

he is plainly a treasonist and a shill for the secret fascist junta that has hijacked america

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