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Mar 8, 2012


Muslim Surveillance Shows Tensions Between NYPD, FBI

    • Holder's reactionto NYPD surveillance of sites and individuals identified with a well documented potential source of threat is misplaced..The implicit suggestion that NJ had not also initiated such surveillance is profoundly disturbing (or should be to all concerned with prevention of jihad-based acts of mayhem, destruction and murder)..

      Until the objects of NYPD's warranted attention come to be perceived as being identified primarily with thoughts and actions benign, keeping them under surveillance everywhere makes very good sense and should be part of any such model NYPD and other law enforcement agencies might design.

      If Muslim complainants, NJ’s ACLU and their other supporters are intent on casting blame, they should consider placing it properly on the late, unlamented bin Laden, al Queda, jihadists and jihadism, the murderer at Fort Hood, would-be underwear bombers, would-be car-bombers in Manhattan, murder-by-suicide bombers everywhere in the world, and other such entities too numerous too mention, who bear sole responsibility for giving "Muslim(s)", generally, a bad name..

      Wrongly tarred Muslims should become resigned to the likelihood that the tar they share wrongly albeit understandably with similarly named evil-doers won't go away until, mirabile dictu, one distant morning daily news reports have no new accounts of Muslim-related depredations to convey.

      And, it goes without saying, good defense against stealth attack requires officials who don’t quibble re jurisdiction--something national security officials engaged in to our collective sorrow, pre-9/11.

    • It's too bad ACLU and muslims and Crispy Creme Christy are not concerned with the safety of Americans. That says it all. Two of my clients were killed on 9/11 along with almost 3000 other poor souls. The attacks could have been thwarted if the mosques were under surveillance. Political correctness will destroy this country.

    • " individuals identified with a well documented potential source of threat"

      Let's tease apart that phrase.

      Work forward from the back end of the sentence, from the noun toward all your weasel words.

      These people are known to be a threat? No. Certainly, most Muslims are not a threat. (That's one reason profiling is a poor law enforcement technique. Too many innocent people "fit the profile," and too many attackers don't.)

      Well, then, these people are a potential source of threat? No.

      So you pile on more modifiers.

      These people are a potential source of threat? No, you can't even go that far, not with the facts for support.

      So you're left with, they've been identified with a potential source of threat. Which seems to mean that they have the same religion as some people who are a threat, and the same religion as many milliions of people who are not.

      That is as tenuous as tenuous could be.

    • Incredible how a discussion like this can take place . We are at war with fanatical murderers . Period . Its not like they are rounded up and put in a detention facility . Law enforcement has a tough job and its extremely difficult when arguments on both sides of the line interfere with their duties . I know everyone has a right but I have nothing to hide if someone looked at my emails or cell calls .They would be bored to death as my life is not really the most exciting thing to occur , as I'm sure a lot of us are as well . Why are the Muslims so upset that someone took a look to see if there were any radicals that wanted to blow up innocent people ? What would happen if we did not use these techniques and someone here died ? Is this acceptable carnage / losses ? Equal treatment for everyone , if the Law thinks you may be a part of something then yes , They have a right to investigate .

    • I think that if there is nothing to hide, that noone should be upset. I don't care if law enforcement checks me out, I have nothing to hide, so why are muslims so upset?? Hmmmm???

    • I was targeted by a "CIA" group, and they are actually connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, even Communist New World Order....and let me tell you...when they roll into town, in their shiny black muscle cars, the local cops obey them. They aren't really even CIA, they just say they are. They might not even be human! Ok I don't want to lose you here...but read about the MIB...they AREN'T human. B.O.B. The Watchers! They get local cops to gang stalk their victims! They target psychics, remote viewers, or anyone they feel is not controllable by hypnotic suggestion. Seriously, stick to your TV..get off of the Internet, and above all: DO NOT LOOK AT THE SKY.

    • If several Catholic's become a terrorist group should all the Catholic churches be subject to surveillance? NO-that would never happen (look at the uproar about birth control) imagine if the catholic church found surveillance inside - all HELL would break loose!!!! C'mon people use some common sense here the terrorist should be the subject to surveillance not the place of worship or the whole race !!! This is unconstitutional ! - IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ONE THING- RACIAL PROFILING IN THE NAME OF THE GREATER GOOD...
      PS. By the way I am bi Partsian in other words -------- I am not a muslim - I am a christian-born in the USA .. o and I am caucasian

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