Two Charts That Should Make Anti-Vaccine People Ashamed en-us Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:11:11 -0400 Dina Spector Fred Jones Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:27:46 -0400 The seizures occurred a few weeks after the vaccinations. That is much to long a time gap to think that the vaccinations caused the seizures. Unfortunately some people who are not that intelligent will blame a vaccine for something that happens weeks later. This is silly. John F. Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:49:52 -0400 If there's room to fix the vaccines, then by all means let's fix them. And forget, for a moment, the cruelty of denying those protections to children of the anti-vax crowd. But just consider this: pushing to ban the vaccines and/or spread misinformation about them -- and that is what Jenny M. and others like her are doing -- isn't just a question about choices for our own children, but making a choice for the whole community that we do not at large agree with. When these diseases spread and are allowed the room to adapt, we're all at greater risk. P.S. This article would be greatly improved if it showed (a) the real outcomes of these diseases and what they do to the human body, besides -- in many cases -- killing it and (b) show some comparative statistic about how many might die in demographic group of any one of these diseases vs. how many in that group might be diagnosed with autism. It might seem cold to say, but even IF vaccines caused autism -- there's ample evidence that they don't and that many, many other factors might be far more likely to blame -- in a weighing of disease protection vs. autism risk, the level of autism risk would surely be extremely low compared to the risk of death or damage from these ailments, some of which by the way, if they don't kill you can absolutely cause disabilities like deafness, blindness, immobility or -- yes -- brain damage. me you Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:13:57 -0400 It would be kinda funny if she died from one of those diseases. SAugsburger Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:14:13 -0400 Wakefield was caught making up data! His Lancet paper is pure fraud to the point that virtually everyone except him has denounced their support for his conclusion. In over 10 years where is the corroborating peer reviewed research to back his conclusion? His sample was far too small to even make a firm conclusion other than that more research should be done on the topic and his supporters act like like it is gospel ignoring that he not only falsified data, but had a conflict of interest. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:30:22 -0400 Yep - because I understand that correlation does not equal causation. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:29:26 -0400 There is no 'other side' of this debate. The science is quite clear - vaccines are safe and effective, and an important tool for protecting the public health. That's the thing about peer reviewed, reliable scientific evidence- it's true regardless of your willingness to believe in it, or your personal bias. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:27:06 -0400 Scarlet fever is a consequence of an untreated Strep infection. Thanks to antibiotics, most cases of strep are controlled, and scarlet fever never develops. A baby is at risk of Hep B because, after vertical transmission (from mother to child) the majority of children who contract Hep B are from an unknown source. The younger you are when you contract it, the more likely you are to develop liver cancer. Since the Hep B virus is a rather hardy virus (it can live on surfaces for quite some time) - and all it would take is a Hep B positive dad with gingivitis or bleeding gums to put that baby's pacifier in his mouth and then give it to the baby. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:23:32 -0400 The DPT is not used in the US anymore, and hasn't been for around a decade, if not longer. We have the DTaP - an acellular pertussis vaccine, which does not contain thimerosal. Furthermore, the amount of formaldehyde in a vaccine is negligible if you consider the amount of endogenous formaldehyde produced by our bodies as a byproduct of 1 carbon metabolism. Seriously, your liver is metabolizing around 22 milligrams of formaldehyde per minute. Adding in 50 micrograms to that won't rock the boat. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:20:03 -0400 How do you separate the chemicals from the food. Damn that dihydrogen monoxide! linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:19:23 -0400 It's not a choice between vaccines and autism or vaccines and GBS - there's no link between any childhood vaccine and either of those illnesses. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:18:18 -0400 Thimerosal (or thiomersal, if you like) has been removed from the childhood vaccine schedule. Ethylmercury (which is the metabolite of thimerosal) is rapidly excreted via the fecal route. The methylmercury you're exposed to when you eat tuna is more dangerous. I don't see folks protesting 'Big Tuna'... linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:16:38 -0400 Which diet will prevent HPV? Measles? Oh, that's right - no diet will prevent a vaccine preventable disease. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:14:34 -0400 Folks have received awards for encephalopathy - which is NOT autism. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:13:16 -0400 Autism wasn't defined as an 'illness' until Kanner. Before those times, folks were just considered retarded or insane. So an autism diagnosis did not exist until the mid 1900's, however folks were indeed autistic prior to that - they just didn't call it autism. linda.tock.7 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:09:06 -0400 Deaths were dropping from disease due to advances in medical care, but the incidence rate of disease had not decreased. Death wasn't the only outcome of the measles, you know - folks were left blind, deaf, and disabled from encephalitis as well. Once we started vaccinating, the death tolls dropped even further - because if you can't catch a disease, you can't die from it. murkey waters Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:49:40 -0400 Two adverse reactions temporally related to administration of the same vaccine... not proof, as you say, in the sense that no mechanism is demonstrated, but certainly concerning and suspicious enough to be investigated. I assume it was reported to VAERS, but what would you have this person do to further demonstrate proof? The next step isn't clear, because the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want it to be clear... they just want the trail to end there, so they can perpetually keep telling each case "you haven't proven anything yet". If you're so sure the poster's anecdote is unrelated, then answer truthfully: knowing the history posted above, would you take YOUR children to get the same vaccines, at the same clinic, on the same day as NotSheeple's daughter? Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:30:53 -0400 Add a comment.. autism isn't something that can be "cured" let alone though a "diet." That is completely and absolutely absurd. It is unbelievable that anyone, anywhere, could or would actually take this seriously. I don't know what was/is wrong with her kid, if anything at all but I do know that she didn't cure his "autism" by moving him to a gluten free diet. Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:26:55 -0400 Add a comment...I'm sorry about what happened to your daughter but that doesn't actually prove a single thing. Until and unless you can actually prove that the vaccines your daughter received caused her issues, let alone a death, you can't make these claims anymore than someone could claim that receiving a vaccine DIDN'T cause a problem. P Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:13:00 -0400 Best of luck... NotSheeple Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:09:54 -0400 My uncle was infected with polio from the vaccine that Canada bought off the USA once they discovered it was giving people polio int he states and pulled it off the shelves. He died a few years ago from complications, but it was proven through testing that the strain he got was from the actual vaccine. (early 60's I think, but dont quote me). PKH Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:00:51 -0400 Riiiiiiiiiight. McCarthy has ADMITTED that her son never had autism. Hundreds of millions, likely in the billions, of vaccines have been administered. If only 89 have been harmed because of them, that's a pretty damn good case for the safety and efficacy of vaccines. That is 0.0000178%, assuming a conservative 500 million vaccines. NotSheeple Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:59:34 -0400 My oldest daughter, now 12, was a healthy, intelligent, outgoing girl, but a few weeks after her first round of vaccines to go to school she developed seizures, now has trouble concentrating, and was deathly ill for more than a month. Fast foreward 7 years, and she still has cognitive difficulties. We observed the radical changes in her mental capabilities, but we're happy she survived, our friends who took their son for the same vaccines, same day died. It was heartbreaking, and terrifying as we didnt know if our daughter would pull through. Our second child will NOT be getting any vaccines, I dont care how many studies you drop in front of me (mostly pharma group funding anyhow), we watched with horror our first daughters near death experience, and are intelligent enough to recognize that it was the vaccines that caused it. Hatchetwoman Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:33:31 -0400 Speaking of polio, did you know that the polio vaccine was contaminated with a virus that is believed to cause cancer? From about 1960-63, somewhere between 10-30 million people all over the world received the contaminated vaccine -- and that's just what the CDC admits to. kryptonite hammer Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:27:41 -0400 A simple question which is surprisingly difficult to answer, because the criteria for what counts as "autism" has been continually changing. A lot more kids are called autistic or "autism spectrum" than used to be, so the goalposts keep moving. thedalton Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:48:25 -0400 What "studies?" Guset500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:45:21 -0400 By"other side" do you mean the non scientific community? The same ones the are proponents for nonsense like homeopathy and reiki? The people that aren't actual scientist and who don't have medical educations. Yes, those are the people I'd like to spend time getting my medical advice from. Tragically Ignorant Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:37:57 -0400 I'm sorry, but there is no basis for your claim that "there are too many toxins" being introduced to babies. The virus' that are introduced for a vaccine are dead, not alive. There are no "toxins" being introduced and further, a baby has a fully formed immune system. Finally, and most importantly, there has been no evidence, none, that shows a correlation between autism and vaccines. If that is ever proven then fine, at that point, we'll have actual scientific proof and hopefully a path forward. Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:48 -0400 You are a colossal, ignorant, fool who has greatly endangered your kids. You might note the whooping cough and measles outbreaks over the last few years. Unsurprisingly, the "victims" have been people that didn't get vaccinated or skipped the booster vaccine. You should be in jail, if nothing else, then for your staggering stupidity. Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:24:07 -0400 You are a fool and a moron. Dr. Wakefield lost his medical license because his "test" to determine that vaccines caused autism consisted of a sample group of a total of 6 kids, used falsified data, and didn't subject the results to peer review. He then went out, proclaimed the results as true, sucked in Hollywood fools and idiots like Jenny McCarthy, and duped and scared millions of innocent people all while raking in millions. This is why, fortunately, he's no longer allowed to practice medicine. Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:17:44 -0400 Btw, there are hundreds of thousands of scientists that work in the medical industry? Are any of them trustworthy? The CDC also employs many, many scientists, are they all also untrustworthy? And are these, collectively, millions of people all getting together and colluding so they can cheat the unsuspecting public out of vaccine money? Think about how ludicrous your statement is. I know, 911 was an inside job too.. Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:12:56 -0400 Sorry, but the issue with "people trusting their own minds" is that those people don't have a medical or science background and can't make a logical decision. Skipping vaccines endangers the rest of the population. Do you have an MD? Are you a legitimate scientist? There is no debate, zero, about the benefits of vaccines in the science and medical community. If you have some sort of actual scientific evidence I suggest you submit it for peer review. That's how science works. Broad Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:06:42 -0400 I have never heard anything so idiotic in my entire life as this rant against a Doctor who has been struck off by the British Medical Association for serious professional misconduct and falsifying data. You really need to get a grip and understand that there is zero link between autism and vaccines and then understand that your Dr Wakefield is nothing more than a fraud without a medical license as it has been revoked and he cannot practice medicine in the UK. <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ></a> Try reading sometime it may help you with your knowledge of what this quack of a doctor spread out in to the world. You are attacking her Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:57:39 -0400 Shoot the messenger every time, here is a great way to solve this issue, let people make up their own minds. It is their bodies, there money, let them choose. I for one have never trusted the CDC or drug companies so anything they say I automatically call BS. If you trust them fine, give them to your kids and grand kids and leave mine alone. You forgot Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:53:37 -0400 You forgot to include Autism, increase in neurological disorders especially in children, the numbers of children that "parents" say died as a result of vaccination. The number of adverse reaction that "parents" record in the days following vaccination. Also take a look at the funds set up to pay for adverse reactions to vaccination, they always go broke long before there suppose to. Then take a look at those population of children that refuse the vaccinations and notice the generalize better health of those kids over the normal population. If vaccinations were really worth it, do you think you'd have to force people to get them. Would insurance have to pay for them. Of coarse not, people would be lining up to get them. How come with 1/150 kids with autism we are not spending the lion share of the CDC's budget on getting to the bottom of the epidemic? They know the cause and it is why every time the issue comes up they attack the person bring it up. They never allow a good open debate about the problem. All you ever hear is we had a panel look at it, well a panel and five bucks get's a Starbucks Scott Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:02:56 -0400 This article is extremely pro-vaccine slanted itself. There are many studies that show these same declines in disease absent of vaccines as a result of better hygiene, cleaner water, etc. There are also many reports that show the risk rate for vaccines and efficacy. It should be peoples right to vaccine or not and their choices should not be criticized. We live in a world where access to information/ knowledge is easily accessible to most people. There is much personal opinion that gets interjected form Business insider to its articles. Journalism should reports the data not personal or corporate opinion and present both side of a debate should the information be available. We need knowledge and data resources. We do not need Business Insider or anyone else to form an opinion for us. zzz76 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:37:38 -0400 The author should do a better job of researching historical facts rather than spewing big Pharma propaganda. Most of these diseases already had a 60-90% decline BEFORE the vaccines were introduced (polio, pertussis) due to increased sanitation efforts in society. I am not one to discount vaccines totally, but people that download a chart from the CDC and crap out a pathetic article like this irritate me to no end. Shame on you as a writer Dina Spector. doodle Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:33:51 -0400 maybe " bend down & pull your panties down" hurt more then the cold. sasha grey her first guest " squinting, why -do you squint ?" "' how I got jimmy to delete the stolen tapes" motaki Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:39:02 -0400 I'm not sure where I stand with this one--I had received a flu shot 1-2 times in my life and both times I got pretty sick--since then I've refused to get them again and i've been sick free forever it seems, but in other vaccines I am willing. Danielscott1976 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:47:48 -0400 Our uninformed voters get all of their "facts" from the television. A more pressing question is, "why would we take advice from a playmate? We have already established that she doesn't make good choices! Unless money is involved! She looks smarter with glasses... Guest500 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:28:59 -0400 The argument that this is a money issue, as if a vaccine is a vitamin or something is entirely absurd. Show the proof I.e. evidence if you are making a claim like this. Otherwise you might want to consider that Jonas Salk gave away the polo vaccine so that the rest of humanity could benefit for free. Maria in DC Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:31:52 -0400 Like you would really know anything about that specific case... whether her kid did or did not have autism... whether he has it now, and whether diet had anything to do with it. You are overstepping yourself. Jenny R Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:41:15 -0400 I have had the flu shot for ten years in a row, and never once did I get any strain of flu. Of course I got plenty of colds, but no flu and I only got bronchitis once. Lindey Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:28:38 -0400 I'm curious when YOU last had your boosters? You do realize vaccination does not equal immunization? They admittedly wear off per the CDC -that is IF they are even effective at all! So, I ask...are you current on your vaccines? Have you had your booster shots? Why, why why! much children...BABIES bear the burden of sacrifice for the so called 'greater good' Sickening! Kat Peterson Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:00:06 -0400 You take the vaccine because the bacteria or the virus is rather in existence. There are 0 cases BECAUSE of immunizations! Ppl stop taking the vaccines, ppl start getting these diseases's called modern science and common sense! Kat Peterson Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:55:35 -0400 McCarthy is a big mouth know it all! She uses her celebrity to push her BS crap onto people. Unfortunately, a high percentage of the American public is very impressionable to whatever may come out of a big mouth celeb! McCarthy also claims her kid is no longer autistic due to her special diet...more baloney! She is the biggest reason childhood vaccines are not being taken and these dreaded diseases are on the rise. Wait until a child dies of one of these preventable diseases because its parents listened to her. Then who will pay the piper? all vaccines are not created equal Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:54:55 -0400 Everybody commenting here, pro- and anti- vaccine, are speaking as if every vaccine has the same risk/benefit ratio, which they definitely do not. Some of the most established vaccines, like polio, are medical miracles and definitely have saved millions from morbidity and mortality. Others, like the HPV "Gardasil" have pretty low benefits... cervical cancer has been practically eradicated by the Pap smear, and most of the cases of cervical cancer seen today are by women who don't get that done regularly. Gardasil advocates even admit that their vaccine only covers a few types of HPV (there are over 30), so even with the vaccine, you still need to get the Pap, so extremely low benefit compared to something like polio. dan green Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:45:00 -0400 We all know what 'established medicine' says about vaccines, but if you take time to research the other side you may just change your mind. These charts are completely misleading and don't show the years of the 'pre vaccine era'. You will find that almost every one of the these diseases were more than 90% eradicated before the vaccine was even introduced. You could also include scarlet fever in that chart, but guess what, there are no vaccines for this disease ... so why is no one scared of getting it anymore and what caused it to almost disappear without vaccines? Hygiene, sanitation, higher standards for food, clean water etc... were responsible for the decline. All parents want what is best for their child, unfortunately we spend more time researching what kind of smart phone to buy than what the doctor will inject into the bloodstream of a 2 hour newborn infant. The Heb B vaccine is given HOURS after a baby is born, but the baby is not even 'at risk' to get the disease unless the mother has Heb B already, in which the vaccine is useless. You get Heb B the same way you get aids, sharing of dirty needles and unprotected sex. Are you scared of getting aids, then why would a baby be at risk to get Heb B? Science tells us that mercury, squalene, aluminum, thiomersal and formaldehyde, etc ... are all highly & neurotoxic and detrimental to human health when injected into the bloodstream (these are vaccine ingredients). If you believe in science, you might think twice before you get your next vaccine ... it is kind of sad that people form their opinions from articles like this, BI is just after pageviews/clicks/visitors and write hot topic/emotional articles that divide just like the trayvon martin case. Do your own research, you will find many prominent doctors and scientists do not vaccinate commentator Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:11 -0400 brings your immunity down...this is the biggest crock of crap i have ever read, and i've read lots of crocks full of crap. your body is assaulted daily with MILLIONS of pathogens FAR more dangerous than an INACTIVATED FLU virus, but somehow the antibodies created in response to the flu vaccine is what brings your immune system down?? does anybody even think anymore before they spout such nonsense??? i guess we can't expect much in a country that believes adam rode a dinosaur to work cmonster Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:57:31 -0400 That's why I don't see the big deal in her hosting the show, it isn't as if people should consider entertainers as experts in such things. If anything people should be concerned that about the fact that she was in a relationship with Jim Carrey. lindey Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:34:08 -0400 If you knew what you were speaking about, you would know that McCarthy's son is RECOVERED! Mom's are pulling their children out of the nightmare that is autism as we speak. It is all consuming...meaning time money...emotions...all of it!! AUTISM IS MEDICAL! A certain amount of people will be pushed beyond their toxic tipping point by VACCINES and will be vaccine injured. 89 people, last I checked have been awarded settlements by the US Vaccine Compensation Program for their "autistic like symptoms" as a result of vaccine injury. I know warrior momma's that are busting their asses to detox their children and heal their guts in order to get their autistic children out of their diagnosis and I know families who have succeeded and/or are on their way to success! Matt Van Ryn Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:27:03 -0400 Multi-dose bottles are used here, too, sweetheart. And I HAVE "looked it up". I am the parent of a 20 year old with autism, and have attended more scientific conferences on the topic than I wager you have. And despite claims to the contrary, in the US we do not exclusively used single dose bottles of vaccine. Also, the DPT still has thimerosal in it. Many, if not most, vaccines also contain formaldehyde. Do you suggest that it is also safe for human consumption? It also effects the human nervous system, and as you know, of course, autism is a neurological disorder. The long-term effects of ethyl mercury have not been well studied. There are studies saying it metabolizes faster and passes out of the body faster than methyl mercury, but it still goes into the brain, it still passes through the placenta and it still distributes throughout the body. There are studies saying it is 20-50% as toxic as methyl mercury - so I guess that's something, but it certainly doesn't mean it's "safe". Lindey Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:26:57 -0400 FALSE! Dr. Wakefield most certainly did not withdraw his theory!! His years of research led him to see that FACT that there is increased GI/gut issues in those with an autism diagnosis and that "there needs to be more studies done looking into this." He was bullied and attacked by big pharma because the have BILLIONS to loose!! AUTISM IS MEDICAL! Wakefield is a champion while the CDCs lead scientist who is responsible for their cigarette science that supposedly dispels that vaccines lead to regression/autism is on the FBI's most wanted list for embezzling the millions of dollars he was given to do research with. Not sure about you, but I'm going to go with the guy who asked for more research to be done over the criminal on the run! 0% Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:54:54 -0400 If there are 0 cases of several of these viruses today why would you even take the Vaccine! floridiot Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:44:59 -0400 Summer is the season for polio. Ask your grandparents if they are old enough to remember. Janna Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:14 -0400 It's a different, more toxic form of mercury. Look it up. And while you are at it, look up the fact that this chemical is only used in multi dose bottles shipped out to third world countries where they are stored for long periods of time. Austism is not on the rise in these countries, Think critically. You can't get all the answers and be an informed citizen all from one article. floridiot Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:40:58 -0400 Exactly. What's the problem? Perfection is not an option. Trish Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:30:15 -0400 They don't use thymersol anymore and never did in the UK, which happens to have the same autism incidence as the US. hmm Matt Van Ryn Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:16:46 -0400 Vaccines are a net social good. No one argues that point. The point of people like Jenny McCarthy is that the *amount* of vaccines given to very young children, before their immune system can handle these toxins, has quadrupled. We parents were lied to by NIH when they claimed all thimerosal was taken out of vaccines in 1999. It wasn't. It's still used as a preservative in bottles that contain multiple doses. Sure, there may be environmental factors, too, along with genetic ones, but a 400% increase in the amount of mercury and formaldehyde that infants are exposed to is not without risk. It also happens to coincide with an enormous spike in incidence of autism that cannot be attributed solely to "better diagnosis". It used to be that 1 in 10,000 children a generation ago were diagnosed with autism; now it's 1 in 100. The "need" for more and more vaccines is driven by one concern - profit. That's why pharmaceutical companies lobby state legislatures to mandate an ever-widening net of vaccines. What happened to my right to choose what substances are introduced into my body (and the bodies of our children)? We wiped out so many deathly childhood diseases back when we all used to only get 8 of them before we turned 5 years old, instead of over 30 as children do today. What may have been a safer practice (ingesting trace amounts of mercury) before is pushing the boundaries today. Why do we object to too much mercury in tuna and other seafood, or tell people not to touch it with your bare hands, but suggest that it's OK in vaccines? It's not harmless, folks, and it builds up over time in our systems, just like it does in those tuna. Kat Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:13:36 -0400 At the point where autism became an umbrella syndrome coupled with over use of plastic in microwaves. My sister was autistic before all of these vaccinations came into play. In addition, the scientist who came up with the theory that these vaccinations caused autism withdrew his theory. That almost never happens. toddd Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:10:26 -0400 Up to 600 Patients Received Vaccines Tainted With Meningitis 600 Californians part of 13,000 patients who received tainted medicine. Roll the dice. Yeah, you avoid lock get meningitis. Ignorant Man Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:06:09 -0400 As it relates to whooping cough, Dina your misrepresenting facts: (<a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ></a>) 2nd point: Ask yourselves, is whooping cough worse than autism, or an any auto-immune disease like guillain barre? Whooping cough is treatable after contraction, as well as most other diseases vaccines are poised to prevent....Diphtheria, Measles, mumps, etc. Weigh the risk/benefit. Don't follow any argument blindly. Evil Empire Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:50:23 -0400 Here is thought: why don't they find an alternative to Thymerisol in vaccines? Who wants a mercury derivative injected into them? P Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:41:00 -0400 Yes, because chemically laced foods were all the rage in the 1700s which is why life expectancies have almost doubled since then. toddd Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:27:45 -0400 There are people with medical backgrounds that also have issues with vaccines. Injecting a health body with foreign material is always a tricky proposition. I never get flu vaccinations and I'm always more healthy than the people that get them. Realize that a common flu shot just injects the most common strains of flu virus into your body. This helps create defenses against these viruses. But it also brings your immunity down as it is creating antibodies for these viruses you just shot into your blood stream. It's great if one of the selected flu strains hit you, not so great if a strain that you have no immunity to hits you....while you are in a weakened state. Also realize that vaccines can be tainted if created incorrectly. You have to measure the risk/rewards of injecting viruses into an otherwise healthy body. For Flu vaccines, I pass. And I've never regretted it. ClownFart Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:06:22 -0400 Don't eat chemically laced food, provided by Monsanto and you won't need vaccines. Easier said than done, I know, but you are what you eat. Tmac Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:00:23 -0400 . . I'm not trying to formulate a scientific hypothesis. I'm asking a simple question. At what point did we see an explosion in Autism in the US?. R U Serious? Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:53:51 -0400 I guess the bloggers at BI must be upset that a (gasp) moderate will be taking up residence with the moonbats at The View. As to the efficacy/harmfulness of vaccines, do you expect CDC/Big Pharma to be honest about the potential toxicity of vaccines when BILLIONS of dollars are stake? Klaus H. Mastensund Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:51:56 -0400 Your unvaccinated kids enjoy an environment with fewer disease vectors thanks in no little part to those who do, in fact, vaccinate their kids. If you must ride the coattails of responsible parents, a simple "Thank you" would be in order. Incidentally, which diet prevents lockjaw? Y'know, the infection through wounds that kills you by turning your entire body into one huge cramp, until - probably mercifully - your diaphragm locks up and you pass out and die unable to breathe? Or could it be that a tetanus vaccine every 10 years or so was the rational choice? Hero's Duty Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:48:59 -0400 "This model is sick-care NOT healthcare." We're talking about VACCINES, Einstein. That's not sick-care. I'm not going to hope your kids get smallpox, because that's not cool. But I won't be surprised. Hero's Duty Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:46:38 -0400 Why do you hate intelligence? Klaus H. Mastensund Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:44:01 -0400 You don't think a 50% reduction is worth taking? Klaus H. Mastensund Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:43:08 -0400 Post hoc ergo propter hoc is no way to formulate a scientific hypothesis.. Western NJ Trader Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:41:19 -0400 Dina, you've swallowed the medical model hook line and sinker. This model is sick-care NOT healthcare. They push their agenda and profits with large war chests. I haven't vaccinated my three kids, and yet they live breath and function. It's a miracle. Tell you what I'll do, I'll refuse to feed them the disastrous diet that most vaccinating parents feed their kids day in and day out, and I'm betting that my kids will experience a net improvement in health over their cohorts. Don't be a shill for the medical model. They already have enough money and influence to push their snake oils and elixirs, they don't need volunteers. Stay golden Pony Boy... Christopher Green Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:45 -0400 If thousands are saved compared to a very few that are harmed by vaccines, do you care about the vast majority that are saved? To say that no one cares about the few that are harmed reveals a vast ignorance about the people trying to keep us healthy. Vaccines, along with clean water and food are the best public health measures ever devised. They are the main reason why our average life spans have increased. People like you are trying to return us to the dark ages. Flawed charts Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:34:27 -0400 Dina, the charts don't tell the real story. All these diseases were already declining massively right when the vaccines were introduced. Studies continuously show that vaccines are not responsible for the drops. Anti Scientist Scientist Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:31:08 -0400 She DID work at a butcher shop before she got the job to host the MTV game show that launched her career. 1100cc Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:26:23 -0400 Anti-vaccine? Or perhaps just pro- "choice?" Oh wait, that's right, CHOICE is only a valid argument for murdering unborn children. ClownFart Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:09:12 -0400 Vaccines are for sheep that think the US medical system actually cares about cures. That Guy Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:03:49 -0400 While McCarthy's started this crusade in 2005 saying her kid got autism from vaccines, in about I want to say 2010 it was determined her son doesn't have autism at all. Google it, not hard to research yeah her whole foundation of vaccines cause austim went up in smoke. do! Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:52:08 -0400 According to the CDC, the efficacy of the 2012-2013 flu vaccine against three strains was disappointing. Netting it out, it was about 46-53% efficacy. In other words, flip a coin. You've got a 50/50 chance. Heaven help you if you're over 65 because the efficacy rate was as low as 9%. Thanks but no thanks. do! Data: Interim Adjusted Estimates of Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness — United States, February 2013 February 22, 2013 / 62(07);119-123 ewebcat Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:42:22 -0400 you blew my mind with that insight. not. Marcossa Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:34:09 -0400 Vaccines save many lives. Vaccines also kill.a few lives. Unfortunately, no one cares about those hurt by vaccines. Chrysippus Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:26:17 -0400 What you fail to mention, which is quite relevant to the discussion that no peer reviewed scientific articles manage to find a link between autism and vaccination. See for instance; <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ></a> Tmac Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:18:43 -0400 Question. Which came first - Autism or vaccines? Guest500 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:18:05 -0400 She's another Hollywood idiot that has no background in science, no understanding of evidence based medicine, and no ability to do critical thinking. Her stance on vaccines is simply unconscionable and massively irresponsible but considering this is the show that also hired Whoppi and that other idiot, hardly surprising.