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sandy and the fiscal cliff. 146,000 jobs have been added. and the unemployment rate fell to a four year low of 7.7% from 7.9% in october. coming up at 6:00 we look at one bay area industry where just having a job creates jobs. the impact one worker can have on the economy . >> authorities are serging for a 63 year old woman who is missing. they say she caulk r walked away from her home around 1:00 a.m. . >> here in the bay area and around the world, people are marking the day, 71 years after the attack on pearl harbor. . >> here at the top of the mount, you can see something that happens just once a year, the beacon is lit up to commemorate pearl harbor day. it was an early day for survivors in alameda. the memories are still fresh for the men that were there. >> i saw that first or the pediatric doe drop --. >> i felt six hit the port side of my ship, tore a big hole in there. . >> 94 year old george larson was in the coast forward that day and saw the planes. >> one flew right over me but 200 feet above me. i could count the rifts on the lane. >> 71 years later, larson feelts

cliff, fiscal cliff," but not "job crisis, job crisis, job crisis"? >> it tells me, quite frankly, that many of these people, who by the way did not have much to say about the deficit when we went to war in iraq and afghanistan and didn't pay for it, i didn't hear from any people in the media complaining about that. what it tells me is that behind the corporate drive for deficit reduction is a significant effort to try to cut social security, medicare, and medicaid and other programs that working families need, not so much because of deficit reduction, because this has been the agenda of republicans and right wingers for a very long time. >> so how do you see this fiscal debate playing out in the next couple of weeks? >> we have, those of us who say that deficit reduction is a serious issue, i believe it is. but believe very strongly that at a time when we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth, people on top doing phenomenally well, middle class is disappearing. that most americans agree with many of us in the senate, who say, "yes,

to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending than in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can

should be done that should cost us more jobs. can you fix the fiscal cliff and send the economy downward. >> the fiscal cliff, isn't it having real impact in the economy now? >> it's having real impact and name pact will growth longer we take to come to a deal, some deal, any deal. what everybody wants, individuals who are going to be paid in january, they don't know how much and businesses, so what's the deal? what are -- what do we have to plan on? >> the best down payment would be to continue tax rates at the middle class for the rates they are, the best down payment. that's the best easy first step and i hope congress will realize take a step and take it now and give the president something he can sign. >> that has to be the last word. thanks, guys. >>> from the downward slope of the cliff to the upward climb on jobs, a big surprise in the november jobs numbers. it's a step in the right direction, but ali velshi will join me with a look at why we need to do much more. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, a

what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we have seen a lot of obstructionism from the republicans. trying to stop progress has z how they do business. latest move from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just might take the cake. he threatened to filibuster his own bill. mcconnell proposed legislation to give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling. under the plan, congress would need a two-thirds majority to stop him. it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. he wa

to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are w


to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for dragging their feet. at least publicly, seems we're walking on a treadmill, getting nowhere. anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> we certainly hope so. the fact two sides do toin to talk, even if we don't necessarily hear about every detail is encouraging. it does appear republicans are getting close to the idea of raising -- sorry, of cutting taxes for middle income americans and maybe sorting out higher incomes a little later. certainly things aren't necessarily going the republicans way. i think we've seen polling this week that suggests congressional republicans would be held to account if, in fact, the country does go over the cliff. but friday sort of signaled, as boehner said, there really hasn't been su

up, the fight over the fiscal cliff is putting american jobs at risk. one of these congressional members is lying about the problem. we'll use the newest job numbers to get to the truth next. >>> and republicans in michigan are ramming through antiunion legislation and hurting middle class americans in the process. the people of michigan are outraged. we're talking to lansing, michigan's mayor. we're right back. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. ve a cold,nouncer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announ

, fiscal cliff talks, legalize medical marijuana. all the news was fodder for late night comedians this week. here are just some of our favorite late night laughs. >> some good news. the u.s. unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been in four years. or as makers of sweatpants put it. >> the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level in four years. well, the bad news, most of those jobs involve wearing a red suit, a beard and have a kid pee in your lap. >> house speaker john boehner said his efforts to work with president obama on the fiscal cliff have resulted in a lot of talk, but no action. yeah. a lot of talk, but no action or as they call that in college, date. >> you know what's really popular now, weed. weed. yeah, you can get it in washington legally and you can get it in colorado legally and 60% of americans say they're in favor of legalizing weed and it's, it's too bad that this comes just when twinkies is going out of business. i mean -- >> day two of legalized marijuana in washington state and you think pot smokers are celebrating, you should see ronald mcdonald



. there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. 8 days ago, secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts and an infinite increase in the death lemmas like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president thought the tax rate hikes he wanted, we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. the president does not agree with our proposal. i believe he has an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, and plan that can pass both chambers of the c

, republican and democrats will handle this jobs report in their fiscal cliff negotiations? >> well, you know, you're right. some folks look at this and say the economy's strong enough. it should be able to digest big tax increases spending cuts. others look at it and say look we still have a very high unemployment rate, a long way to go to get back to full employment. the economy can't tolerate big tax increases and spending cuts. most political debates the reality is in between. we do need to address our fiscal problem so we do need to go through some spending cuts and we also need some tax revenue increases. but we have to phase it in over time, otherwise the economy will choke on that. we can't have too much restraint too quickly. so we have to phase this in, smooth it in to make it palpable for the economy. >> susie: until that happens, there is a lot of anxiety in the labor market. the big fear for many individuals and for investors is that companies are going to start laying off workers. we saw this week that cities have announced 11,000 job cuts, is this the beginning of a trend, mar

purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. >>> new job numbers, fiscal cliff talks, legalized marijuana, all the news was fodder for late night comedians this week. >> some good news, some good news. the u.s. unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been in four years. or as makers of sweatpants put it, uh-oh. >>> climate rate has fallen through its lowest level in nearly four years. the bad news, most of those jobs involve wearing a red suit, a beard and having a kid pee in your lap. >> house speaker john bainers says his efforts to work with president obama on the fiscal cliff have resulted in a lot of talk but no action. yeah. a lot of talk but no action, or as they call that in college a date. >> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. victor is off today. it's 9:00 on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. thanks so much for starting your day with us. we start this morning with the supreme court and the decision to hear two major cases on same-sex marriage. justices will hear arguments against the federal government's defense of marriage act and california's propo

numbers. rebuilding should help. >> heather: and facing this fiscal cliff, based on these job numbers, where do we need to be in order to serve that? >> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos unfolding in the middle east as egypt's military threatens the protestors there. syria preparing to unleash chemical weapons and people are scared seen here running for their lives to prevent two catastrophes from getting a whole lot worse. staechb yates will be with us next. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like ourender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fa


. >> this is in the progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actually some pretty strong incentives for the president to take the country over the fiscal cliff. if you look at what the president's stance to gain if the country goes over the fiscal cliff, there are very clear and identifiable things. on the ne hand te president could idtify himself as a tax cutter. he could sa - on january 1st the president in terms of the country and say, now in favor of cutting these taxes that have been raised because we did not solve this before the fiscal cliff. he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can positi himself as sort ofthe protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear centives to t

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serves as another reminder that the fiscal cliff may be obscuring the fact that america is actually poised for an economic renaissance. short-term indicators are looking good. jobs are being created. consumer debt is shrinking. goldman sachs said last week despite a market rally this year, stocks can rise another 10 to 15% in 2013. forget silver lining. how about the golden lining around the economic cloud? with mortgage rates expected to stay low through 2014, home affordability is as good as it's been in generations. that's going to attract buyers who have b

to add jobs in november, despite worries about a looming fiscal cliff in washington and the effects of a k perstorm in the northeast. >> thank you very much. or reporter: at chobani, the greek yogurt maker based in new york, c.e.o. hamdi ulukaya has been hiring. how many employees do you have? >> close to 2,000. >> reporter: the turkish-born ulukaya started chobani just four years ago. since then, greek yogurt sales re g exploded. chobani is now nearly a billion- dollar business. >> think we're going to be over 5,000 to 6,000 people by five years. >> reporter: so another 3,000 or ll000. th yeah. >> reporter: nationally job f owth has been steady but slow. so far in 2012 the economy has added an average of 151,000 jobs a month. >> we are creating more jobs but the pace of that hasn't really thanged much in the last two years. >> reporter: this chief investment strategist with the the blackrock says the economy is caught in a circle. >> one reason the job market isn't better is consumers aren't spending and the reason consumers aren't spending is etcause the job market isn't i wier. t

cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house is has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle-class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35% to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to sho

was an empty letter. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united states from super power status. >> this president just won a big election and you would think that he would want to lead. >> we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cuts. >> tax cuts. the whole premise of tax cuts is going to be blamed for all of this economic mess. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking, christmas it coming, the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america, it's a very, very lean time. >> the reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> greta: with us is co-host of the five, greg gutfeld. he has a new book out, the joy of hate. he's been on a road trip having a book tour, so he has been talking to lots of people and they have been talking to him. so we want to know. are americans frus


of the fiscal cliff fast approaching, only 25 days, going over it threatens to ruin the holidays for millions of americans. danielle nottingham says republicans are waiting for the president to make the next move. >> vice president joe biden at lunch with middle class americans who will take a $200,000 hit if their tax cuts expire. >> this is no time to add any additional burden on middle class people. >> while the white house is pushing congress to renew middle class tax cuts, the president says he won't take any deal that won't extend tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> it will take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. >> reporter: both parties are leaving the talks to president obama and house speaker john boehner. here on capital hill, boehner says he is still waiting for the white house to respond to the latest gop proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $

this fiscal cliff it will be good for the manufacturing sector. you are not saying happy days are here again, but there is cause for caution. >> i am saying let's not pop champagne bottles. let's see how this goes month after month for a period of six months. and then make a better a -- make a better assessment fnlt. >> if you were advising those people, kyle, who find themselves with smaller salaries, what do you say? >> i say be very protective over your job that you have now. continue to hone your skills in not only the job you have, but make sure -- you noy a lot of people are changing -- you know, a lot of people are changing careers to be productive in the workforce and to contribute. i think education is key. whether it be going to school part-time -- and i know these things cost money, but whether it be on-line or it be seeking some sort of education in another area to make sure that your skill set is diverse. >> you mentioned on-line. there is a lot of stuff on-line in a good way that you can actually gain some knowledge. >> absolutely. >> kyle always good to see you. thank you for

as part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. >> we must reform the job killing tax code by getting rid of loopholes. our goal should be to create new taxpayers. the gop commented raising taxes won't solve the nation's 16 trillon dollar debt. the potentialal candidate in 2016 he said only economic growth and reformingen titlement programs can control the debt. >> the former florida governor said is he a democrat now. he announced that last night. he posted a photograph where he was holding a voter application. the times reported that he signed papers to change to democrat at a christmas reception at the white house. >> yesterday marked the 71st anniversary of the pearl harbor attacks and many paused to remember that faceful day. in hawaii there was a moment of silence. that surprise attack killed about 2400 people. it was the start of the united states involvement in world war ii. >>> in alameda pearl harbor survivors took part in the ceremony at the coast guard island. the 21 guard salute honored the survivors, they are still fresh for the men who were there. 91-year-old was on the w

than expected in the wake of hurricane sandy and fiscal cliff anxiety. >> so it looks like sandy will not affect the numbers even after revisions. >> reporter: georgetown's harry holzer, former chief economist for the labor department. >> in terms of the fiscal cliff, so far we are not seeing any big impact. >> reporter: not even an impact on retail which, for all the talk of online supplanting bricks-and-mortar buying, added 53,000 jobs last month-- much of it holiday hiring, no doubt-- but a healthy 140,000 overall increase in the past three months. not all the new numbers were festive, however. construction shed 20,000 jobs, though perhaps influenced by sandy. manufacturing dropped 7,000. grinchier still, job growth in september and october was revised down by 49,000 jobs. and for all the talk of a lower unemployment rate, its explanation seemed to be that several hundred thousand more americans stopped looking for work in november and were counted out of the labor force. again, economist holtzer. >> this month's change was driven completely by the fact some people stopped loo

this -- i hate to even say it anymore -- fiscal cliff is? today we got an incredible employment report from the labor department. with 146,000 new jobs. i was looking for 90,000. the unemployment rate dropping to 7.7. i thought it might be 8%. and all this despite the effects of hurricane sandy. who knows how high we could have been if it weren't for that darn hurricane? yet the market barely blinked. yet the potential layoffs if we go over the cliff make these rearview numbers seem almost irrelevant to the market. hence the mixed performance of the averages today. sure, dow gained 81 points, but the s&p barely budged, edging up 29%. and the nasdaq actually declined .38%, led once again by the slip sliding away apple, which you know i like, but how many times during a particular show can i say i like it? so with that in mind, what's the game plan for next week? first off, perhaps the most important day of the week is monday. but not for any earnings. not for any releases. that's when we process the results of the weekend talk shows, which you now have to watch as if we were instead of watch

up this year, although it is now drifting back downward on account of the fiscal cliff is people feel a little bit more secure in their jobs. they know their company's in pretty good shape. what we need to see next are companies starting to grow, get more demand for treer products and services and start hiring. let's hope we see it in 2013. host: morgantown, go ahead? caller: yeah, i think george bush sold all our jobs overseas, and he ought to be sell all that oil he got and give the money to the people where they can take that money they've got there overseas -- caller: yeah, mr. newman, i think it is. you've really got some good points. but i was wondering, can you give me an answer for this theory i got. we got to remember that we were living in this bubble and we're never, ever, and we shouldn't ever try to get back to that inflated, unnatural way that we lived. we all don't need a big 50 inch screen tv. i mean, it's got to start at home. we have to learn to live within our means and i mean the big companies too. because they get to hire the big tax lawyers, accountants who can d

, it was 8.8%. how does this play into the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> well, i think the president can and will, i'm sure, make the case that the economy is now clearly headed in the right direction. that the lowering of the unemployment number is not an aberration nor was it a political trick that occurred during the campaign that some had charged. so the president can say, okay, we need to resolve this fiscal cliff issue. or else we're going to start heading in the wrong direction. don't interrupt the recovery that we're having. and if you do, congress, it will be your fault. >> and then as far as the job approval numbers for the president, and this is going to play into this leverage negotiation, as well. how is the president handling his job as president. this is an average of the major polls. 53% approve of the job he's doing. 43% disapproved. that's a three-year high. >> and our monitor poll out this week. 53% approval. and the widest gap we've had on whether people prefer him or republicans. he has a stronger hand in this debate, partially because his approval rate was up. but m

: from our facebook page, chris makes this comment. this fiscal cliff media coverage is absurd. you people are grown adults. get something done. if i could get something done in my job, i would probably be terminated by now. enough already. do something for all americans, not just your party. >> guest: the only criticism i would have with that comment is we're not the ones that are negotiating. there's a limited number of people. i believe if you put me in the room i could get a deal done. but i wouldn't do it -- i would like all republicans up and say what is it we believe in? we willing to give $800 million in terms of income. here's what one for the. here's where we're going to stand. we had to reform medicare to some degree because the real spending is this demographic shift in growth and medicare entitlements. here's what we have to have. most people don't realize the size of token is twice the size was 11 years ago. how many people realize that? that in 11 just the federal government is twice the size in terms of dollars and people? most people don't realize that. so here's th

. fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if we go over the cliff. now, working for the cuts they will make if we do actually go over the cliff. a diner, middle-class taxpayers and the vice president, telling republicans a deal to extend tax cuts for all but the wealthy is easy. >> the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. >> reporter: not really. even though the two sides are talking, they aren't making much progress. remember that phone call between the president and the speaker a couple days ago? >> the phone call was pleasant. but it was just more of the same. >>

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