Submitted by moegooner88 461d ago | news

Official Statement on what was said yesterday

Major Nelson writes: "I wanted to give you the official Microsoft Statement regarding some comments you may have seen yesterday." (Microsoft, Xbox One)

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dedicatedtogamers  +   461d ago | Well said

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Jek_Porkins  +   461d ago


So far we know Destiny is DRM, now perhaps AC4 and Watch Dogs....it's getting interesting and not in a good way.
JoySticksFTW  +   461d ago
Getting ugly guys.

From Gaf



Man, I'd hulk the f out

Hogan, Incredible, Savage- doesn't matter

Somebody would be getting their ass kicked.

I don't know who. But somebody

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BitbyDeath  +   461d ago
@JoySticksFTW, that would suck bigtime.

sengoku  +   461d ago
this pretty much confirms it.

they have been planing this for sometime.
all trough the internet.


if you don't have internet or cant pay for it,
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cosmoracer  +   461d ago





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gaffyh  +   461d ago
darthv72  +   460d ago



They need to snap out of it. I dont have enough foil for everyone but if i did....it might help them break that singular consciousness and allow them to think as individuals again.
BlindGuardian  +   460d ago


it wasn't "anybody" like you said
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BlindGuardian  +   460d ago



also you can find it here on Major Nelson's blog: http://majornelson.com/2013...


let me know if you still don't get it
NateCole  +   460d ago

MikeMyers  +   460d ago






Again no denial of his comments, only to further wait.
JokesOnYou  +   460d ago
Why deny anything now?


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rainslacker  +   460d ago







Does it still seem good for everyone now?
fr0sty  +   460d ago
A few potenial scenarios here:



3. He's just full of crap.

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cosmoracer  +   460d ago

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rainslacker  +   460d ago


Basically, my counter-argument is


ziggurcat  +   460d ago
@ darthv72:


DiRtY  +   460d ago
@ JoySticksFTW





Ritsujun  +   460d ago
Xdoomx. =/
JoySticksFTW  +   460d ago

Tell all of that to the games tournament communities.


And it's not just multiplayer games that are potentially affected.




That would change if Orth had his way.

Uh, Edit:

He might have been canned


I think MS PR and Legal ninjas might have gotten to him
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FamilyGuy  +   460d ago



"What does Adam Orth actually do at Microsoft?"

"Clean out his desk."

These guys are hilarious.
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JokesOnYou  +   460d ago
@ cosmoracer
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coolbeans  +   461d ago
May Orth's employment be RROD'd.

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optimus  +   460d ago
Evidently it was...
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coolbeans  +   461d ago
I have a sneaking feeling of that as well.
LOGICWINS  +   461d ago
Ashlen  +   461d ago

No, me neither.
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kneon  +   461d ago
coolbeans  +   460d ago

I'm not following.


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BitbyDeath  +   461d ago
Still doesn't make them look good either way now.
The damage is done.
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   461d ago | Well said
@ Logic

I have a better mission for you... open a new tab on your browser and go to google.com, then type "xbox 720" and you'll notice the first results are all about "Always connected, and controversy".

LOGICWINS  +   460d ago
Oh yeah...OH YEAH!



kenshiro100  +   460d ago
...Yeah, I don't think so.

Rusty515  +   461d ago
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   461d ago
On a console they have yet to announce.
Rusty515  +   461d ago
Redempteur  +   460d ago
everybody knows the console is coming.

Their choice
TheDigitalSmoke   461d ago | Spam
Number-Nine  +   461d ago
what was said

"tip your cap and call sony my daddy"
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ame22  +   461d ago
Doesn't change the truth.
M2-  +   461d ago
Which is what exactly?
Angainor7  +   461d ago
the truth he wanna hear
RememberThe357  +   460d ago
That MS plans to have the Xbox require an internet connection to play games.

That wasn't an abstract statement, and with all these comments, you should have been able to put it together.

@below: You can keep your head in the sand as long as you want. But tell me, why would a MS employee defend something that didn't exist? You honestly can't be this dense.
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M2-  +   460d ago


In order for something to be true it has to be fact. Rumors are not fact until proven otherwise.

Sorry for not jumping on the bandwagon so quickly, unlike most I don't treat rumors as fact whether good or bad.

"Always on" does exist, it has existed for sometime and is even present in games that have already been released...

Maybe he's defending SimCity? Maybe he's defending "always on" because the rumors are true about the next Xbox? Maybe he was being sarcastic? Maybe he was just tolling his developer friend? maybe + maybe + maybe != fact.

Why don't we just wait and see?
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Gamer-40  +   461d ago | Funny
Ok, this awesome:-D

"..Sorry, I couldn’t tweet earlier about @adam_orth’s comments about the XBOX always online rumors. My internet connection was down.."

Kaz Hirai.

Minato-Namikaze  +   461d ago
ame22  +   460d ago
ApolloTheBoss  +   460d ago
Pure definition of BOSS.
ZoyosJD  +   460d ago
That's actually a fake account...

Still funny though.
kenshiro100  +   460d ago
Angainor7  +   461d ago
For Christ's sake there is no official confirmation of the 'always on' on the xbox 720. Why the f**k don't you wait until they unveil the damn thing? As for Orth, employee or not, active or not, spokesperson or not, he should be fired. you can't accuse people for slow or no internet even if you don't mean it. they paid you idiot..
_-EDMIX-_  +   460d ago
"wait til its confirmed" = "god don't let it be true"

"Offical statment" along with ZERO opioion regarding the matter = "I'll flip when its confirmed"

I'm sorry but to not have an opioion on the matter and just state "ZOMG NO OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION" etc, is pretty much just saying you fear whats going to happen and don't like MS getting ragged on.

...did we need Sony to confirm what Vgleaks and Edge have been telling us about the PS4 for months? LOL! Mind you they are the same sources leaking out 720 and they got PS4 specs 100% on point. Is it JUST so damn hard to believe the leaks are from a 3rd party developer that has INDEED worked on BOTH systems? LOL! Cause they are "confirmed" sources telling use this. I know so because the PS4 reveal was 100% in line with what Edge has been saying.

How is this any different?
cosmoracer  +   460d ago
This site is for gaming enthusiast. We like to speculate, anticipate the future and opine about it. People like to talk about their feelings about things. Relax man.
Software_Lover  +   461d ago
Gaiki will require an always on connection.

Devils advocate. Just saying.

I'm not getting either console in the first year either way so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. A rumor is a rumor until Microsoft announces anything at E3.

sidenote:yes I know gaiki is an optional service and has nothing to do with retail purchased BD games. I also hate the DRM that Microsoft has now when it comes to the Arcade games. It pisses me off.
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KwietStorm  +   460d ago
That's like saying Netflix requires an internet connection. It's not about being optional. Gaikai is 100% streaming. Not the same thing.
edonus  +   460d ago
We don't know that because nothing has been announced.
They could be absolutely the same thing. There is nothing to say they are not.

Basically wait for the announcement.
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   460d ago
Gaiki isn't a necessity, however.
RememberThe357  +   460d ago
I like the devils advocate angle as well. People either get fired up or they explain their position. Either way I'm entertained or educated; win-win.

In this case I will do my best to explain my position:
There is no good reason from the consumer side to accept always on-line. Yes my cell phone is always connected to a network, but that's it's purpose. And yes Netflix and the like require an internet connection, but that's their purpose too. When we're talking about games on a disc there is no reason to accept being required to be online, it's not necessary. Streaming services require connections because their necessary to deliver the consent, but that's not the case here. It looks like MS is just forcing this for their own benefit, not for us. I expect them to try to spin this to make it look good when they finally reveal the next Xbox, but I'm not going to except this. DRM needs to be on their side not ours.
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sway_z  +   461d ago
If, and especially after the flack 'Always Online' is getting, Microsoft still roll out nextbox with the always online requirement, then Microsoft truly have no place in the gaming industry. Simply for the lack of respect and ignorance shown to their loyal fan base.

...It will truly be the royal kick in the nuts!

*Whom ever disagreed with me either misunderstood my comment or is an advocate of 'always online' ...whadda schmuck!
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BDG  +   461d ago | Funny
I officially rename the xbox720 as xbox365-24/7
greenmeanie  +   461d ago
The fact that they won't comment, only validates the claim! I am so bummed! I truly was hoping this was a rumor, and I will not be buying Xbox. RIP Xbox 2001-2013. The way this guy came out insulting everyone yesterday, is the exact reason why I don't care for Sony and their playstation. I have never owned a playstation, and now I won't be owning the next Xbox, so I guess I am going to find another way to game this next gen.
Dlacy13g  +   460d ago
Really? They wont comment on something that they havent had their official launch release conference for so that means its validated? **shakes head** I wish people would stop and take a breath and realize there is nothing to freak out about yet. If they officially say "its online all the time, DRM, doom, doom" then fine scream your head off but the reality is right now nobody knows anything about how this all actually works.

I agree with you that the guy insulting everyone is a total Dbag, not too mention one of the stupidest people on the planet. How did he not think his comments would come back and bite him in the ass and more importantly hurt the company that gives him a paycheck?
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ceedubya9  +   460d ago
They can't really comment on something that technically doesn't exist. Yeah, we all know its coming, but they haven't officially announced it yet. All answers will be provided once the thing is actually announced.
cyguration  +   460d ago
Sony DID comment on the false rumors before the announcement.

A year ago they shot down the rumors about the PS4 banning used games and then after the announcement they further confirmed that the PS4 WOULD NOT ban used games:

(From May 2012)

(From February 2013)
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cell989  +   461d ago
meanwhile at Microsoft HQ-- All hell just broke loose
Dlacy13g  +   460d ago
lol...you gotta admit it would have been awesome being a fly on the wall.

First few tweets go out...

Adam Orth feels all justified with his tweets

More tweets....

Adam is feeling righteous!

Meanwhile at MS HQ word gets out someone is being a Dbag on Twitter form MS.

MS Management...who the f*ck? What the hell?

Adam now starting to see the shit storm he started... feeling less righteous... now paranoid

Adams phone rings... it explodes with words he has never imagined...it ends with something about termination

Adams twitter goes private....Adam stares at his screen ghostly white...

Adam gets email..."HR would like to speak to you"
Gamer-Z  +   460d ago
still MS won't come out and deny it
JeffGUNZ  +   460d ago
Deny what? MS hasn't acknowledged a next gen. console. So really, what do you expect them to deny? That is the same response they have given since day one back in 2001. It's their policy, it's not going to change so a handful of fanboys on N4G.com can shut up.
Foxhound922  +   460d ago
Hey Jeff bro, I think you are failing to realize the magnitude of the situation here. This game directors comments are about a day old now and the entire inherent gaming community is up in flames. Also you are forgetting how fast word of mouth travels, and how effective it is at swaying opinions. Ms doesn't need to deny the rumor, and pr team with more than a day of experience knows that all they would have to do is say "microsoft does not endorse the comments made by Orth, we will keep you updated as soon as possible. That way they can discard his rude comments all while not confirming or denying the rumors or even that a next generation console exists. It's pretty obvious at this point that ms although didn't agree with his snide comments, aren't denying anything regarding the aforementioned rumour.
JeffGUNZ  +   460d ago
@ Foxhound.

It's really the same thing, no? By MS saying that guy is not their spokesmen and they don't comment on rumors, can be taken that way. It's all a matter of interpretation. That seems to be the issue here. I am not saying the nextbox will be this way or not, but at this point we know nothing that has been confirmed. I know we are all eager, which leads people to believe rumors, but I think we should owe it to anyone to at least let them reveal and explain what they have. If it's bad, so be it, but for now, we have no solid facts.
dark_101  +   460d ago
I don't know if the whole thing is "trolling" or "true facts" about the new XBox..

But if MS is planning to get gamers attention before announcing the next XBox..

It's working soo bad !!
silverbeld  +   460d ago
Wow a lot of xbox fans are commenting lately on N4G now.

Welcome back guys cause this Microsoft road map is not good thing to hear.

Damage control! Lol
_-EDMIX-_  +   460d ago
Same source has been proven cause they leaked out PS4 specs 100%...........must be a rumor. LOL!
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GABRIEL1030  +   460d ago
Maybe the 720 will not block the second hand games and neither will require internet permanent connection, but the damage is done, the stupids comentaries of the fool Adam Orth are very bad publicity.
Citizen_King  +   460d ago
Makes me wonder why Adam even brought up it up in the first place. Since the next Xbox being always online is just a rumor at this point he could of just not let the subject slide.

It would be like a creative director from Sony talking about banning used games right after the Blu-ray patent first appeared.
JoySticksFTW  +   460d ago

His timing (and attitude) was atrocious

Now it seems he might have been fired

Read the last update:

Gaming_Guru  +   460d ago
I would not be surprised if the employee was actually defending a business model than voicing an opinion. People are paying for Xbox Live while everyone else isn't paying for the same thing, and I have been thinking that way before PlayStation Plus.

Yes currently Xbox Live social features are unified than the current PSN, but all that changes with the PS4. In the end, as long as Microsoft makes people think their business model has more value, there will always be money coming in even if it isn't.
Master of Unlocking  +   460d ago
So Always-on DRM is true then, since no denial is an implicit confirmation.

Now only a handful of hardcore xbugs will buy that thing and the next-gen systems war is over before it even started. Well done Microsoft, really, well done! :D
sephx22  +   460d ago
Oh yeah this E3 is gonna be something to remember.
ATi_Elite  +   460d ago
24/7/365 Internet connection is the Future
Stop CRYING about always online/online DRM

24/7/365 Internet is the wave of the future, my PC's are always on, always connected to the Internet so it's NO BIG DEAL.

If you got crappy Internet then I would worry about that first before buying a $500 box game box.

if you live way out in NO REST STOP areas or Bum F Egypt and don't have the Internet then you may wanna move to civilization or just buy new tires for your quad.

MS has done the research and they feel they can make a huge profit marketing to those of us with great Internet service.

With the amount of MMO's that I play having a SP game connected to the Internet is nothing.

ALSO being connected to the server will allow Devs to receive lots and lots of Bug data that can be fixed faster.
-Gespenst-  +   460d ago
Er, a lot of people can't afford to pump money into an internet subscription with the bandwidth limits required to have an always online console.

What you're saying is like calling a homeless person stupid for not having a home or going out and looking for one.

If they implement this they're alienating their less well-off customers- pretending they don't exist even, all just for the sake of stabilizing and controlling their console to a fascist degree.
ATi_Elite  +   459d ago
Well that's the Crappy Console life you chose so just deal with it.

You have choices or illusions of choice until Sony does the same thing somehow.

Just get a gaming PC and be done with CRAP.
SITH  +   460d ago
I am going to wait for the official word on this always on deal, but it looks like I am going all PC soon.
urwifeminder  +   460d ago
As long as it doesnt have sony written on the box ill try anything.
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fr3d0  +   460d ago
Anything, meaning:

-Proven hardware inferiority with 54.2% console failure rate.
-No offline-gaming.
-Forced pay to play online.
-Inferior specs (gddr3 lol).

That would make you a moron.
-Gespenst-  +   460d ago
Anything? You should try this then:

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ylwzx3  +   460d ago
They can screw themselves.. I won't be buying a console with always on required period. Anyone that supports this is a flat out moron and you are the reason why gaming is so screwed up.
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