

Speech denounces countries that prevent the free flow of information to citizens








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RE: How ironic
By superPC on 1/22/2010 4:34:14 PM , Rating: 0
i think we all forget how expensive freedom is. and what it cost to maintain that freedom. the US got a taste of how high freedom can cost thanks to 9/11. after that flying never feels the same. and each terror attempts kept on reminding us how expensive freedom really is. and that is just a small taste. in the past freedom cost even higher. with Nixon watergate US nearly turn into an authoritarian country. with the patriot act privacy has just become one of the price for freedom.

give credit where credit is due. the price for freedom in china may be too high. right now they're one of the fastest growing economy. if they're as free as the US, that might means civil unrest, or worse, civil war. freedom is what they pay for their amazing economical growth. and if you ever talk to someone that lives in china (city not countryside), they would tell you that freedom is a price worth paying for that economical growth.

RE: How ironic
By masamasa on 1/22/2010 5:07:57 PM , Rating: 2

They will tell you the opposite, among other things mentioned in this thread. Who do you think is getting the benefit of the economic growth? It isn't the people. To sum it up and rich get richer and.....well you know the old saying.

RE: How ironic
By superPC on 1/22/2010 5:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
you may be right there about who gets the most benefit out of economic growth. but the poor stand to loose more in a civil unrest or civil war as the rich would undoubtedly have long left the country before that happened (or have better protection). you might say china is choosing the lesser of two evil (civil unrest or no freedom).

RE: How ironic
By Penti on 1/24/2010 12:08:51 PM , Rating: 2
Many in the cities are actually rich party members, it's those who can send their kids to study abroad. I.e. they make more then most working class people or blue collar workers in the west.

The rest is stuck earning like $150 a month living at a factory dormitory. Or a really crappy apartment. But there's still hundreds of millions that got a high living standard. Got their own apartments or houses, good paying jobs, can afford to travel, own a car and so forth. The party would be nothing without members. Then you also always got the people who's poor and are working in the informal sector living on building sites, illegal housing, squatting in make shift houses, under bridges or whatever.

Then again, US got millions of illegal immigrants living in sub standard housing, running it's agricultural sector. There's problems in any society. US is pretty broken.

