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That is what was there prior to your post.--Cerez365
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No. He's never used it.--Cerez365
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Why? --Cerez365
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Currently, the whole "low stamina" thing on the page is a non-sequitor. It's a stand-alone sentence that doesn't fit with the rest of the paragraph. Can someone add in examples from the manga? Also, correlation does not mean causation. It is very possible Itachi has naturally low stamina, even without the disease. Also, instead of using the databooks to compare between two shinobi, I think it is better to compare their stats relative to themselves. That said, a 2.5 standing among 4s and 5s is worth noting.--Formerly140 (talk) 20:27, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Like I've tried to explain before, illness is always directly correlated with low "energy" or stamina if you will especially one that is terminal. Stamina as we've seen, is something that can be expanded/increased through training, case in point Kakashi Hatake. I don't know why, in this specific case, people would believe that the two are totally unrelated.--Cerez365
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(talk) 20:35, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
If one notices his battles, he doesn't last much long...the fact that up to three uses of his MS left him in the gutter, in terms of stamina/chakra, stands to point the Itachi's (sole) weak point is his chakra levels, which while i agree to the whole removal of below average stamina it's a fact that from what was shown Itachi isn't capable of going on a long duration fight. Now we don't know when he contracted his disease or how much he was affected but chakra-wise, in terms of amount/power is his Aquille's Heel. Darksusanoo (talk) 20:45, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
Kakashi is an interesting example. He has naturally low stamina, right? But he also has a sharingan that's constantly sucking away at his chakra. Can we say Kakashi ONLY has low stamina, because of the sharingan? No. Likewise, with Itachi, I'm very sure the disease has some effect on Itachi's stamina, along with his strength, speed/reflexes, etc, etc. I'm never saying his disease is unrelated with his abilities. I'm simply saying, you may be overlooking the fact that even without a disease making his stamina low, it may be naturally low to begin with. Formerly140 (talk) 20:46, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
But here's the thing or things: first due to him being a non-Uchiha, Kakashi's Shraingan sucks up even more chakra than it would on an Uchiha, which was noted that with enough training was negilable. Maybe his stamina/chakra is mediocre but his sharingan is or was a major factor to it. Itachi on the other hand, due to the fact that the details of his illness are non-existant, we don't how much he was affected by it. Maybe your right, maybe not, but the fact is that the details are few and far-between. Darksusanoo (talk) 20:58, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
Not naturally low or low at all. We don't know what kind of stamina Kakashi had except that he says it's not anywhere on Sasuke or Naruto's level. However he was able to train or whatever and is now able to use the Sharingan related techniques for extended periods of time. That being said, there is no way for us to know whether or not he would have low stamina sans the illness, because simply put, he was ill so it cannot be counted as a non-factor. To address the recent post, how do you know it isn't a case where people who wield dōjutsu just naturally have more chakra to wield the eye? Because that's never been explained to us, and I don't know whether or not the eye recognises "my host is not an Uchiha, so i'll suck more chakra from them to work".--Cerez365
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(talk) 21:04, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
Well at least that's what's stated in Kakashi's page, that due to the fact that he is not of Uchiha blood, his Sharingan costs him more chakra to use, plus i do remember a similar mention in the earlier chapters of the series. It does make sense since he's wielding a KK that's not natural to him so he's bound to deal with some backlash. Now in regards to Itachi, it's what i've said before, given how we don't know when or how he contracted his disease or the full extent of the symptoms we don't know if his stamina was low before or due to it, only that his is lower than most other characters. Darksusanoo (talk) 21:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, we don't know if Itachi has naturally low stamina, but it IS a possibility. And I think saying "he has low stamina" is much more neutral and unbiased than saying "his low stamina was a result of his illness." That makes me think Itachi would have a 5 in stamina if he didn't have an illness. He may very well have a 3.5 or a 4 in stamina without the disease, which, relative to himself, is still low. Another reason I don't want a causal link between his stats and his disease is that then we can argue his other stats are affected by the disease as well. Such as, "his 4.5 in taijutsu and 3.5 in strength are also a result of his illness, and thus should be much higher." Formerly140 (talk) 21:20, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

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itachi uses some kind of technique in the games that turns him into a swarm of crows and then these crows gather forming his body again..could that be some kind of replacement or clone technique ?-- (talk) 01:44, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

If for real, Crow Clone Technique, if not, just regular genjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:57, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

What's the point of this?

"Despite his own impressive abilities, Itachi never underestimated his opponents, given his praise of Jiraiya,[32] in which he noted to Kisame that if they fought him, they would either die or end in a tie." Shouldn't this be in the Personality section? It has nothing to do with Itachi's abilities. I mean, at this point we all know why Itachi said that. To protect the Leaf Village and its strongest Shinobi (Jiraiya).--—This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) .

  • He was praised about his abilities by a Sanin- canon source of praise
  • Can fit into both personality and abilities- shows he's not overconfident
  • Not going to answer that last part because it's speculation that will lead to a never-ending discussion
  • Sign your posts.--Cerez365
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    (talk) 11:30, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


Since he was commanded by Danzō himself, doesn't that mean that Itachi Uchiha was a member of Root.?--Omojuze (talk) 19:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so, no. The series specifically stated that Itachi was a member of ANBU, which are under the direct control of the Hokage. Itachi and Danzō's meeting was in secrecy, wasn't it? He threatened Itachi and all that such, forcing Itachi to make a choice, if I remember correctly.--NinjaSheik 19:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Not that we know of--Elveonora (talk) 22:01, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


I changed abilities back to incredibly powerful instead of just powerful. as lesser characters as stated in the manga (orochimaru admitting itachi is stronger) are described as being being extremely or very powerful.

it's only fair —This unsigned comment was made by Seretonin (talkcontribs) .

All of which is already accounted for without the extra adjective. If Itachi's overall skills were less known, then it might be the case, but his skills have been quite detailed. Adding fluff when there's an already adequate amount of info will only make it look there's bias in the article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:36, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Again orochimaru who has showcased all of his skills both defeated and admitted he was weaker has the extra adjective. the same goes for kakazu who was pushed to his limits who gets a "very" and sasori again who gets an 'extremely' so the bias argument isn't valid as it was sated nagato and itachi were the strongest in madara's army.

also note i didn't add the adjective it was there before i just put it back. —This unsigned comment was made by Seretonin (talkcontribs) .

I don't understand. If it can go for one like Itachi, why not go (or not) for everyone else. For me, it's either you add the extra adjective or you don't for everyone because each of those characters, mentioned directly or not, are extremely powerful.--Cerez365
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(talk) 00:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I think my unease in adding adjectives to Itachi comes from those lengthy debates about his skill in regards to his illness, and the mythic wars I've seen on Itachi and Jiraiya. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Which is completley your problem, wiki readers should not have to suffer for your hang up, the 'extrodinarley' powerful orochimaru was still one paneled by a sick itachi.Seretonin (talk) 11:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

The only "extremely" powerful individuals are close-to-impossible-to-beat, like Madara for example. Powerful by itself means someone is very strong. From the dialogue, Itachi and Jiraiya were strong alike. But Itachi defeated Orochimaru, Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya, Nagato also defeated Jiraiya... you get the point. It's better to remove "an extremely" to avoid "versus" wars because such comparisons are hard to and shouldn't be made.--Elveonora (talk) 02:43, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

sasori was 'extremely' powerful until i changed it. Orochimaru never defeated jiraya in the manga.Seretonin (talk) 11:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
You're quantifying a person's strength in the wrong way. Despite the fact that Orochimaru was "one-panelled" as you called it, that does not detract from the fact that he was an immensely powerful shinobi. In fact as I said before all the characters that have that adjective added to their articles have displayed immense power or what not. That is why I said, it's either we keep it for all of them, or none of them at all.--Cerez365
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(talk) 15:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
It would be easier to add it to Itachi rather than removing from everywhere.~ UltimateSupreme 15:51, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Itachi INDEED was immensely powerful (he even stated to be the one to surpass Madara) but hinted that Jiraiya was equal to him, but then again, Jiraiya was inferior to Orochimaru and Orochimaru inferior to Itachi, so it kinda makes no sense. So the best way is to leave the word alone in most cases--Elveonora (talk) 15:57, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I believe we should get as close to fanservicing our characters as possible without o/ding or distorting information so I'd be all for that. Each character's abilities section, to me at least, should read like we're handing them an award. At least when possible.--Cerez365
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(talk) 15:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Sounds familiar (isn't that what I said?) ;) ~ UltimateSupreme 16:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

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