suicide. WHY!

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by RNC, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. Andre3000 Active Member

    This is one of the most idiotic posts I've ever read on this site.
  2. dwreck New Member

    The way i see things is honestly what can be better than living..i know that goes into the whole heaven/hell debate but I can't think of anything better than living if that makes any sense? :?
  3. ModestMMA New Member

    Through early morning fog I see

    visions of the things to be

    the pains that are withheld for me

    I realize and I can see...

    that suicide is painless

    It brings on many changes

    and I can take or leave it if I please.

    I try to find a way to make

    all our little joys relate

    without that ever-present hate


    The game of life is hard to play

    I'm gonna lose it anyway

    The losing card I'll someday lay

    so this is all I have to say.

    The only way to win is cheat

    And lay it down before I'm beat

    and to another give my seat

    for that's the only painless feat.

    The sword of time will pierce our skins

    It doesn't hurt when it begins

    But as it works its way on in

    The pain grows it grin, but...

    A brave man once requested me

    to answer questions that are key

    is it to be or not to be

    and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

    'Cause suicide is painless

    it brings on many changes

    and I can take or leave it if I please.


    This is the MASH theme song just in case anyone didn't know.

    Anyway, don't really know where I stand on the suicide issue.
  4. EdoKaz818 New Member

    Say what you want man, express your self. There the ones hiding and being scared to say what they want. There imprisoned by there own selfes and people around them. The only person they thought about when they killed there selves were only them selves. Its safe they were cowards and couldnt handle life.
  5. RNC New Member

    "Dude,wouild you stop.people are hurt because they lost a friend,or don't have to be such a d---.seriously show some respect."
    "how can you really say that at a time like this when ppl are depressed and sad about the death of a very close friend?"
    "hey gard, f--- you. you dont even know him or whats going on, so i suggest you keep your mouth shut. because no ones gonna respect your for saying that. kbye"

    [Deleted, trolling/insults]
  6. BigJew Active Member

    To me this thread need not be deep. Suicide can either perceived as honorable or cowardly depending on your cultural standpoint.

    About a month ago there was a crazy bad smell coming from down the hall like rotted fish and garbage mixed together.
    Turned out to be a neighbor that killed himself via OD. Turned out he went undetected for about three weeks. His body bloated up to the point of explosion, which explains why the stink factor went from 0 to 100 overnight. It really bummed out the entire building for a while not to mention that our condo association had to foot the bill for the clean up/and disinfection which required a crew of cleaners in full respirator gear, all very expensive for us in the condo. I felt bad for a couple of days like I could have been a better neighbor to the guy, but he was really looking bad in the end with his teeth missing and he got scrawny from drug abuse. His energy was too needy and creepy for me to want to engage with him. After a couple of days I decided to no longer care about him.
    I'd have more empathy if he jumped off somewhere and not left a building of neighbors to deal with his mess.

    If anyone really feels like they have to do it. At least go far away from other people.
    I believe Evan Tanner was a suicide case, his method of going out in desert and dying was more credible IMO.
  7. BigJew Active Member

    Don't die around your pets. They will eat You!

    A buddy told me a story from one of his cop friends who was first on a death scene.

    A call to the police was made to check out an apartment with a bad smell, which usually means a corpse.
    The cop is let into the apartment where he is greeted by a friendly 20lb French Bulldog whose face is completely coated in blood.
    The cop goes into the bathroom to find a nude elderly woman dead who had slipped in the shower with her crotch eaten completely out by the dog! :eek:

    The dog was picked up by animal protection and adopted later by a new family. They never told the story of what this dog went through.
    Not even a bit of advice to watch this dog around their daughter when she gets older.

    I know its not a suicide story, but its relative in a weird and funny way! ;)
  8. EdoKaz818 New Member

    lol now that is some scarry s--- to see. Poor cop. Must of been logged in his brain for ever.
  9. kam300 Active Member

    Mental illness is a serious and complex issue. People who suffer with depression cannot simply be catagorized as weak minded people. it happens to Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers and Burger flippers. The emotional resevoir that makes up our humanity is deep. Until you know what it is like to feel as though you are drowning in sadness and that you feel as though you have no way out than maybe people who suffer with this deserve more than just your discontent.
  10. grapplethis Well-Known Member

    ^^i agree with kam.

    but by the same token, the thought has crossed my mind (let's be honest, who here hasn't had even the tiniest flicker of the thought that it would be better if you were dead? i mean, everyone probably has thought about it for a split second when they were teenagers, i imagine), and the very next thought i had was "don't be a coward, man."

    but it's easy to say that when you're not someone who has serious mental illness or extreme depression.
  11. Lee New Member

    I'd probably kill myself if I had a seriousness illness that was going to be drawn out, painful and remove my ability to function normally. We put down animals in this same situation and I would treat myself in the same way. I think i'd just put a glock in my mouth and pull the trigger, none of this attempted poisonings etc. Nothing says "fail" louder than a botched suicide attempt.

    Anyone who kills themselves because they lose their job, split up with their wife etc just seem pathetic to me. But I guess they must be truely disturbed in the head to think that is an appropriate response, they are not well.
  12. justjustin Active Member

    For some reason I have had lots of suicides in my life from immediate family members to friends and other relatives never mind all the failed attempts. I would say I am not opposed to suicide but it does make quite a impact for a long time on those around the person. I find myself sometimes just spacing out thinking of what happened? Life can get pretty f---ed up for some people and while I don't oppose the choice they make because people should be able to do what they want, that doesn't mean I don't get super pissed at this person for doing it. And if you have never had to directly deal with a suicide I believe you have no comment on the matter and should probably stfu.
  13. squib Active Member

    we're part of a culture that has a decidedly unhealthy attitude towards death & dying, so it's hardly surprising that our views on suicide are generally messed up as well.

    in case justjustin's referring to me:
    I have a tattoo from a family friend who hanged himself, leaving his g.friend & their child behind. My best friend's father killed himself rather than let cancer do it.
  14. Andre3000 Active Member

    This is a great post, Kam.
  15. kam300 Active Member

    I work with kids who have depression and suicidal thoughts and I've been on suicide watch more than once for some clients. It's not all black and white that's for sure.
  16. Jason New Member

    I've purged this thread of all the trolling an insensitive comments.

    Violators suffered no strikes on their records as this is a warning.

    From here on keep the conversation civil and respectful or the consequences will be greater than a normal violation.
  17. grapplethis Well-Known Member

    good! i was wondering when that was gonna happen. i was appalled by the lack of respect shown in this thread. thank you.
  18. justjustin Active Member

    yes I was thinking/feeling the same way, some people just hide behind the internet and say what they want I guess
  19. grapplethis Well-Known Member

    most of those people are named EdoKaz
  20. justjustin Active Member

    the internet is like a muscle suit for some people

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