The iPhone Is Being Outsold At Verizon By The HTC Thunderbolt en-us Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500 Mon, 17 Mar 2014 06:13:51 -0400 Jay Yarow Dan Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:35:38 -0400 Yea, it totally works. Except the post doesn't use any information to categorize the stores. I work for Verizon and there are different kinds of stores, Corporate stores, Premium Retailers, and Authorized Retailers. 95% of the Authorized Retailers do not get the iPhone, but get the Thunderbolt. Even some premium retailers are unable to get it. Not to mention the amount of stock they get will vary. This post is inaccurate, and not very well thought out, if you just call a store they aren't looking at numbers, they're just guessing. Confucious Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:29:22 -0400 It's very funny when you use a survey to find what "happened", not what is "going to happen". You can find these data every 3 months from Earning Calls but every now and then, some "experts" come up with the brilliant idea of doing a "survey". tim.hobbes and other Apple haters will go into hibernation after 20th April when Apple will release their earnings. Happened every last 3 years. But don't worry, you will have your time between the quarterly Earning Calls. KarmaPolice Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:52:20 -0400 The 4G Network in the US????? Oh please! That's similar to a fuel efficient Hummer. There will be A LOT of returns when they find out it's NOT "lightning" fast. America - Home to the worse cellular service in the world™ PassiveResistance Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:35:55 -0400 Lots of flaming from this story. Interesting how excited people get over a phone. Seriously. Anecdotal does imply there is nothing scientific; it implies the calls made were to get a gut feeling from the stores as to how they felt about sales. Without actual sales numbers all of the arguments are wasted time. Folks, if you love the iPhone then buy one. If you love an android phone, any one of the many, then buy one. You do not need the validation of your peers to enjoy your phone. I simply do not understand why folks get so excited about someone else's phone choice. Unbelievable Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:56:43 -0400 After years speculating when the iPhone would come to VZN... this. I call it FAIL. Jason Stone Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:49:46 -0400 I call it HUGE FAIL, but fanboys will deny it till dead. Pretty predictable if you are not living under an iStone for the last 2 years. FYI Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:29:51 -0400 Fanboys predicted that the iPhone on Verizon would crush Android market share and stop its grow. Reports like this will bring them back to reality. Unbelievable Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:27:28 -0400 After so many years speculating when the iPhone would come to Verizon... this. I call it FAIL. KenC Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:02:59 -0400 Yes, the difference is Gallup is actually asking individuals about their intentions. This "survey" is asking stores. There's going to be far more variation in the quality of the info depending upon whom you speak to at each store. Plus the three possibilities of equal, a is more or b is more, isn't very precise. The validity of surveys depends so much upon methodology, so I wouldn't necessarily call it the same as Gallup. FYI Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:31:11 -0400 > IPhones are also sold at Apple stores, Best Buy The point of this research is to measure how the iPhone is selling on Verizon stores only, not elsewhere. This is relevant to predict if Android will keep or even extend their market share lead in USA in 2011. dug Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:20:28 -0400 The HTC is a much better phone. My sister saw Steve Jobs the other day playing with one. She said he looked pretty down about it. Can you imagine, even if there is a better phone out there SJ will always be stuck with an iPhone. Behang Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:16:47 -0400 This does not seem like a joke to me... DaveW Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:07:47 -0400 April fool's joke? No? then: 1) Verizon said the iPhone was the greatest selling phone launch in their HISTORY , so did they make the same announcement for the HTC T? CEO dan Mead " “In just our first two hours, we had already sold more (i)phones than any first day launch in our history." Verizon also said that 60 % of iPhone sales were online and only 40% stores. the HTC survey was for stores. 2) Iphone has been sold for a while already on Verizon, Thunderbolt just launched. To poll 150 stores means the analyst must have started pretty early. Sales are usually hot during launch and tapers down: According to Msft Zune and Kin sales were also ok the first week of launch... Apple probably sold over a million iPads in the first few days , does it mean those numbers will continue months on end? Launch sales does NOT equal sustainability. 3) IPhones are also sold at Apple stores, Best Buy etc. Lots of people PREFER to buy their iPhones from Apple stores for example to get the customer service, I bet you the HTC thunderbolt has many fewer outlets than iPhone. So just counting verizon stores is not very meaningful. Unbelievable Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:02:37 -0400 After two years of speculations about when the iPhone would come to VZN... nobody wants it. I cal it FAIL. coolrepublica Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:44:50 -0400 Yes it's called sampling. It works. That's how Gallup does it. They call a few people to get a general sense on what America is thinking about something. tim.hobbes Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:40:29 -0400 You are missing the other half of the story. Thunderbolt is also the most modern smartphone in the market right now. Everybody who wanted an I-Phone already got one on AT&T, which explains the lack of lines, announced sales numbers and general buzz. Marc SIry Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:30:41 -0400 News Flash: Brand new 4G phone outsells year old phone on slower network. Wei Yang Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:30:55 -0400 Ladies, it's April Fools! (or is it?) JAC Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:30:37 -0400 Very sensational headlines - but far from a meaningful analysis. 1. Scope of Survey. Where is the input from Apple and HTC stores? Oh wait, there are no HTC stores. 2. Timing. First two weeks - heavy advertising for the Thunderbolt - check back in a few weeks. 3. Methodology - calls - opinions - is this actually a research firm or an undergraduate project for Walter Piecyk Maketing 101 class at Springfield Community College? Mike777 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:28:43 -0400 You are missing the other half of the story. Thunderbolt is also tops in after sales returns due to poor battery performance. Joel H Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:19:16 -0400 It seems the salespeople are pushing anything but the iphone. Beltway Greg Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:16:57 -0400 He called the stores. Gosh that's scientific. tim.hobbes Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:12:32 -0400 Nice. Well deserved.