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RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Thu 21st Mar 2013 23:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kwan_e"
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Everyone would just hack together something and take it to this 'board' to be paid. How much? Who knows! We'll have lobbyists to maximize payment.
What gets accepted as an invention?
Well, now you have the same problem as today with a 'patent' office evaluating patents to see if they are valid or not.

Yes, but if the government is paying for invention disclosures, EVERYONE has a vested interested in making sure worthless inventions do not get accepted.

The problem is no evaluation is really happening. But if taxpayers are now invested in the process, they want value for money.

And it's not a free for all. The only compensation they get is some percentage over their research costs. If everyone hacks something together to get it evaluated and it passes, well, where are their research procedures?

And given their record, they don't seem to be able to evaluate the validity of a patent... much less how much that patent is worth. Now you're doubling the complexity and workload of a system that has been proven to be incompetent?

Again, it's because no evaluation is happening, because of the assumptions that patents are magically good for the economy. But now if the government pays for it, then we can actually ask the question: well how much is this invention worth to the economy?

Right now, that question isn't asked when a patent is evaluated because it's assumed that, once granted, the worth to the economy .

Lastly, you seem to forget that inventors in the proposed system do not get any control of the invention. So no licencing, thus no patent trolling, or even patent lawsuits. That would reduce the amount of inventions that gets submitted from those who are looking to extort a continued licence fee.

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RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e
by Yamin on Fri 22nd Mar 2013 09:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e"
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At times it is amazing to me how people think bureaucracy can micromanage things.

Money tied to research costs.
You don't think people can make stuff up?

In Canada, we have something called R&D credits where the government hands out R&D money. Do you know what happens? There are entire consulting firms who just sit around writing applications and getting money.

It is insanely easy to make up anything to submit.
And if you then make the cost tracking too high, good luck with any small inventor keeping enough records and everything to actually make use of the process.

And now what you've done is moved the monetary value of a patent from it's utility to how much time was spent on it. This would like paying software developers based on lines of code instead of functionality.

As to the 'people' having a vested interest. This doesn't work elsewhere in the democratic system, why would it work in relatively small regulatory body of the government? This is not healthcare or education where people can get up in arms about... and even in those cases they rarely demand value for money... instead... they just want more stuff.

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