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RE: Jeez
By daftrok on 9/26/2007 7:38:09 PM , Rating: 0
True, however most of the big exclusives on the 360 either simultaneously launch on PC or is released on the PC a year or so later. Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Fear, Oblivion, these big games are/will be available on PC. Granted its a plus side for those that do not have a 360, but for those that predominately play on the 360, it makes it seem more of a waste. Now don't get me wrong, Halo 3 is a great game and has great lasting appeal, but will be available on the PC within two years. Some might think that is a long time, however in the five+ year lifespan of a console this becomes a serious issue. Not only are games cheaper on the PC, but also (with the right hardware) can surpass the capabilities of the console for around the same price. The Wii and PS3 are different. It is a negative for those that don't have the console, but in turn makes us WANT the console because the games are exclusive exclusive (no PC). PS3 Games like Gran Turismo 5, God of War 3, Warhawk, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Resistence, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (a stretch, but still a game in its own), Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy vs XIII, Uncharted, Tekken series, etc. These are BIG exclusives and these numbers continue to grow. Wii Games like Metroid series, Wii Sports, the Super series, Legend of Zelda series, Mario sports games, Donkey Kong games. The 360 exclusives, Halo 3, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Condemned, Dead or Alive, Blue Dragon and I guess you can include Bioshock, Mass Effect, and the others that I can't remember. But the main fact is this: people bought the 360 mainly (and in some cases, only) to Finish The Fight. And that fight is now finished. So there are a few (and I emphasize FEW) exclusives, but the fact that most of them are/will be on the PC makes the 360 not that great of an investment, which is why I haven't jumped in the current gen consoles. For me, I am going to buy the AO rated Manhunt 2 and wait for a price drop on the PS3. I love the Wii, but its lack of graphical capabilities and not really my genre of gameplay keep me away from it. I played Condemned and Crackdown beginning to end on the 360, but its still iffy hardware issues and lack of MULTIPLE exclusives not on the PC keep me away from it as well (that and I don't want to pay to play online). The PS3 is what I want, but because I am in college and spending enough on eating, I am waiting for a price drop and, of course, the release of the multiple exclusives.

RE: Jeez
By daftrok on 9/26/2007 7:40:34 PM , Rating: 1
..and rumble.

RE: Jeez
By afkrotch on 9/26/2007 7:59:22 PM , Rating: 2
xbox 360 controllers work on pc.

RE: Jeez
By Hemipower on 9/27/2007 4:59:41 PM , Rating: 2
I would agree that pc's are superior to any other gaming device out there, but I believe you are missing out on a lot of fun just to save 300 dollars. The 360 is a steal at the price for what you get, not like the wii which is a gamecube ($50) with a motion controller.

The only reason to buy a wii is the games not the hardware, and I think that is a cheap move by nintendo to not upgrade the system further. Hell I think the ds has better graphics.

Anyways I know that if I had to chose between waiting 2 years and saving 300 dollars to play a game or just spending the 300 dollars and getting the game, I am going to spend the 300 dollars. Besides that, to get better graphics than the 360 you would have to spend a lot more money on the pc. Notice that I said a BETTER picture not a comparable picture. Oh and you can take the 360 with you to work or wherever your going. Try that with the tower, monitor, mouse, keyboard etc.

Oh and your going to have to buy a 600 dollar monitor that is only going to be used to play games. Where for a console you could get a nice 42" 1080p for like 1000 and use it to play games and watch movies and HD sports games, it doesn't get better than that!

This is coming from someone with a WII, Ps3, Silver Ps2, DS, 360 (6th one so far, but only spent the original 400) and a 1500 dollar pc (including 20" 1680x1050 monitor). Oh yea and a 61" 1080p tv. So basically everything has its reason to be bought. I don't agree with anyone that says, "why did you buy that you could get this and have more games" or "don't play that on a console wait to get it on the pc" or "why did you spend so much money on a pc, you could have bought a 360 and ps3 with that"

RE: Jeez
By clovell on 9/27/2007 5:20:11 PM , Rating: 2

The Wii has double the clockspeed of the Gamecube. It shares an architecture, but it's hardly the same. And, the only reason to buy any console is the games.

RE: Jeez
By Icelight on 10/1/2007 4:05:31 PM , Rating: 2
That it may, but tell the developers that. It's still fairly rare to see a Wii game that looks as good as Rogue Squadron 2...a Gamecube launch title

RE: Jeez
By SavagePotato on 9/26/2007 7:44:58 PM , Rating: 1
How about not writing so much? Asstard! Learn to paragraph....

RE: Jeez
By SiliconAddict on 9/27/2007 1:47:37 AM , Rating: 1
What? Reading taxing your brain beyond its capabilities? I guess he should have used text speak. God forbid you actually read.

RE: Jeez
By Legionosh on 9/27/2007 9:42:26 AM , Rating: 4
I disagree with you SiliconAddict.

I OFTEN write lengthy posts here (and on various other sites as well), but I use paragraphs to make it easier on everyone who is interested in reading what I have to say. What he wrote, while it may or may not have been punctuated correctly, looks basically like a jumbled mess with punctuation scattered throughout.

If a book was written like that, or even a web page, I wouldn't be interested in reading it. Not many people would. Paragraphs are usually used to show a change in an idea or train of thought...or at the VERY least to not have a 5,000 word long paragraph that looks like the one above.

Reading is one thing. We do it all the time, and I read (and write) lengthy posts quite often, but it is harder to comprehend something written like that than something written the way it should be, sectioned and paragraphed.

The only thing worse are the guys who write just as much but don't use punctuation of ANY kind. It was invented for a reason..

..but you'll probably say it's my fault if I can't comprehend what the person was trying to say. I would say that person is either A) too lazy to use punctuation or B) doesn't KNOW how to use to use it so they don't bother.

(There is always option C) it's just cool NOT to use punctuation. Using it makes you look like a dork or if using punctuation and paragraphs makes me looks intelligent, I'll ALWAYS opt for that thank you very much.)

Personally, I'd rather someone UNDERSTAND what I am trying to say easily without question, rather than someone thinking I am cool because I can use 377t speak.

Now, WHAT was your point again?


RE: Jeez
By Misty Dingos on 9/27/2007 2:58:27 PM , Rating: 2
The burden of communication is on the person writing the missive. Not on the person reading the document.

Poor communication skills are a sign of ineptitude or laziness.

Name calling and overtly emotional outbursts are simply childish.

I myself skipped over the post in question because it bore many of the hallmarks of poor communication skills. No paragraph structure. No opening statement. No closing argument.

If we think before we write or speak more people will listen to us with an open mind. Also if we think before we communicate the chance that we will make an ass of ourselves is greatly reduced.

I looked up your rating. Perhaps you could benefit from engaging your brain before your emotions. daftrock seems to be similarly handicapped. If you provoke emotion and not thought you relegate yourself to the background noise.

You will note that my message here seems to be arrogant and condescending. It was meant to be that way. I knew what emotion I wanted to provoke in you. And by communicating in the way that I did I am hopefully successful in that endeavor.

RE: Jeez
By Legionosh on 9/27/2007 4:17:49 PM , Rating: 2
Misty Dingos..

...who exactly was your comment

If not, it would've been nice had you clarified to who you were speaking.

If it was meant towards me I am at a loss, since my posts are usually (for the most part anyway) generally well written and convey the message I am try to get across VERY well. I very rarely have "emotional" posts as you put it, unless someone is getting on my bad side for no reason (like the recent negative because it was a long post. Not poorly written, not fanboyish, nothing that should get a post lowered. It was simply too long, and I got ragged on for it AND got my rating lowered.)

You said you checked my ratings..did you actually READ any of what I'd written? Do I write award winning posts? No, but I think my low ratings were from people who couldn't counter my argument(s) and so they decided to lower my rating. I don't write "garbage", I don't blindly hate or flame anyone, and I at least make the attempt to use proper grammar, punctuation and sentence/paragraph structure...for the most part anyway.

(while my grammar definitely ISN'T 100% perfect, no one EVER complains that they can't understand my post(s), regardless of forum)

My posts tend to have more logic behind them than half the ones I read, here or anywhere, so your statement about me engaging my brain is definitely ill placed.

Again, if it wasn't meant to be towards me then please ignore this post.

I can't tell if your posts was meant to be demeaning or was used as an example of some sort..but since you say you were trying to "provoke" me I can only assume it is the former.

I would however like to know WHY you wanted to "provoke" me. Was it to show that you're smarter than I am? Was it to try and "make an example of me" for whatever reason?

Maybe you'll be kind enough to answer those questions..

..and lastly, if it wasn't meant towards me, maybe you should have been a little more clear in your post my friend.


RE: Jeez
By damncrackmonkey on 9/27/2007 5:48:04 PM , Rating: 2
There's an easy way to tell who she was replying to. Just click the link that says "parent" or infer it from indentation or following the dashed lines leading from the post back to its parent.

You'll note that she was obviously replying to the same person you replied to. In fact, it's rather obvious that she wholeheartedly agreed with your post.

RE: Jeez
By Legionosh on 9/28/2007 9:31:40 AM , Rating: 2 apologies.

(I wasn't aware you could do the whole parent thing. Reading her post most of it seemed she did agree with me. My fault 100% for not knowing about the whole parent thing)

Again, my apologies to Misty Dingo. :-)


RE: Jeez
By fk49 on 9/26/2007 7:47:42 PM , Rating: 1
and geez, learn to use the Enter key

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Man, is this a bogus post?


C2D E6600 oc/d 3.33ghz + 7900GTX non-oc

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and how much did you spend on that rig again?

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Just how stupid are you?

Its the price you have to pay for graphics that matters.


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RE: Jeez
By Spotacus on 9/26/2007 10:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
I doubt Halo 3 will be available on PC within 2 years, as much as I wish that it would be. Halo 2 took 2 1/2 years. While Halo:CE was a little less than 2, I expect Halo 3 to take as long or longer than Halo 2. Mostly because it is a more important game to keep exclusive than Halo 2 was.

And it sucks too because Halo:CE still has a pretty good size group of players for a 4 old game (on Windows) and 6 overall.

RE: Jeez
By daftrok on 9/27/2007 12:25:23 AM , Rating: 1
Did I really get a -1 rating because I didn't space it out? At least I didn't forget periods!

RE: Jeez
By Blight AC on 9/27/2007 9:30:04 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah.. I stopped reading after the first sentance or two.. wall of text. It's not that I mind reading larger posts, but Paragraphs FTW man.

RE: Jeez
By tedrodai on 9/27/2007 9:54:56 AM , Rating: 2
Ditto. I wouldn't vote someone's post down just for that, but I skipped around 75% of the post simply because it gives the impression of rambling. Yada yada yada...

RE: Jeez
By Aikouka on 9/27/2007 8:47:32 AM , Rating: 2

I mean, you can pick your own poison, but there are 360-only exclusives even though you have this mindset that any 360 game will eventually become a PC game.

But the thing is, you're forgetting about one aspect of a gamer. Gamers like to show off what they do... and what's the easiest way to do that? Rack up that Gamerscore! The Gamerscore is Microsoft's best part of XBOX Live, because why would someone buy a game for the PC when you don't get achievements, but you could boost your score by buying the game on the 360. It may sound weird, but I've even heard gamers recant the same ideology to me. If they bought Bioshock on the PC, they would lose out on the achievements. Personally, I bought Bioshock on the PC and I wish I bought it on the 360, but that's another news story =P.

Then again, just because a few games also come out for the PC as well as the 360 doesn't mean that the console has no worth to it when it comes to games. People are going to be waiting at least a year to see Gears of War on a PC... Halo 3 (if released on the PC) will probably be similar in timespan. Not to mention there are exclusives that aren't even planned to be released on the PC! You brought up Mass Effect, yet there's absolutely no reports of this game going to the PC.

To me, it looks more like you're grasping at straws to validate your waiting to buy the PS3.

RE: Jeez
By damncrackmonkey on 9/27/2007 5:57:07 PM , Rating: 2
How can you point out a port of an Xbox game (Ninja Gaiden) as a PS3 exclusive and ignore the fact that its sequel is a 360 exclusive? You also make conjectures about exclusive 360 games going to the PC while making the claim that MGS4 will remain PS3 exclusive.

Also, please let me know how you intend on getting the AO rated Manhunt 2. I'd really like to get ahold of that myself.


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