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#3 - doktorwhat (07/05/2014) [-]
I'd like to see that compared to IQ/technological advances/quality of life
#85 to #3 - envinite ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
As comment #31 said before, it's all pretty damn good back in the mid-age/Golden age, and unlike what euphoric atheist think that religion don't support science advancement.   
It gets 						******					 up after these people had so many wars.   
Well 						****					, I'm no historian, but that's the tl;dr version.


#31 to #3 - thegrimgenius (07/06/2014) [-]
Islamic conquest/expansion period AKA the Islamic golden age was filled with amazing alchemists. Around the same time, there was many Christian philosophers doing thinking stuff. After a while, Christianity had a boom in science, with the Catholic church funding so much scientific activities, a lot of advances were made.
Pic Related, Thomas Aquinas, one of my favorite philosophers, is a very revered figure in Christianity and philosophy.
User avatar #88 to #31 - RiflemanFunny ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
There was a shift. Once Wahhabism took place, Islam in terms of advancement goes down hill. Once the Protestant Reformation occurs, then that paves way the Age of Enlightenment. Christianity stopped it's military style crusade after that. Islam didn't. In fact the Muslims were in constant war with each other.
User avatar #74 to #31 - nought (07/06/2014) [-]
I love how aristotle is looking down. Nice school of athens reference
#105 to #74 - doktorwhat (07/06/2014) [-]
hey, I also noticed Aristotle looking down, but don't know why. Would you care to explain?
User avatar #32 to #31 - jusktiinah (07/06/2014) [-]
Thomas Aquinas is full of logical errors and has a very strange Onthology. Although I dislike his style, I recommend Hobbes a lot, try out the Leviathan. But very nice pic, mind if I steal it? I study this **** , and I would use it as the wallpaper of my PC.
User avatar #56 to #32 - thegrimgenius (07/06/2014) [-]
Mind bringing some of his logical errors out, I haven't read all of his stuff yet.
User avatar #135 to #56 - jusktiinah (07/07/2014) [-]
Boy, I don't remember it all. He pretty much tried to push religion onto Aristotle, so most of the flaws are actually just the same as Aristotles.
#106 to #56 - doktorwhat (07/06/2014) [-]
isn't the fact that they have been mentioned enough to prove the Aquinas's fallibility, or is my logic also flawed?
User avatar #108 to #106 - thegrimgenius (07/06/2014) [-]
Eh, that's somewhat of a bandwagon fallacy, but I'm only saying that because I haven't seen or heard his faults.
User avatar #29 to #3 - androidiix (07/06/2014) [-]
Would that be accurate though? Technology really has little correlation with religion or just because something was invented in a christian/muslim/jewish/ area doesn't meant the inventor themselves followed these beliefs.
User avatar #22 to #3 - icameheretotroll (07/06/2014) [-]
IQ wouldn't be easy to calculate, since there was no measure of intelligence back then nor any possibility to calculate anyone's intelligence by merely a fossil
#27 to #22 - doktorwhat (07/06/2014) [-]
dark skin IQ < light skin IQ
female IQ < male IQ
failed civilization IQ < thriving civilization IQ
#21 to #3 - ottox ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
"bbut anyone religious is a halfwit"
User avatar #12 to #3 - mephiblis (07/05/2014) [-]
It would be all over the place because of local crap going on (epidemics, wars between neighbours, droughts etc).
User avatar #11 to #3 - thenewmaroi (07/05/2014) [-]
Quality of life is relative
#14 to #11 - doktorwhat (07/05/2014) [-]
oh, and quality of life can be quantified. There are a few methods, but they all have to do with cost of living, official crime rate, war, population, job security...
#15 to #14 - doktorwhat (07/05/2014) [-]
cost of health care, life expectancy, average education and costs....
#13 to #11 - doktorwhat (07/05/2014) [-]
so isn't religion. There are countries who have something like "official religion" and those who don't enforce it; those who just say "I'm a ____" but don't really practise it.
User avatar #16 to #13 - thenewmaroi (07/05/2014) [-]
That's inforced though, Quality of life is human dependant, you can't enforce quality of life but you can feel it. A homless woman is given an apartment rent free for a year and her quality of life if now Great. A rich man has to live in a apartment rent free for a year and his Quality of life is poor Since all he'll think about is how better it can be in a mansion.
User avatar #17 to #16 - thenewmaroi (07/05/2014) [-]
you can't average a Quality of life just because a lot of americans have 2 car garages doesn't mean that all other americans who don't have a lesser quality of life
#19 to #17 - doktorwhat (07/05/2014) [-]
but if we are comparing regional "official religions" to regional "quality of life", then both metrics have their inherent error. Like I said, just because England is officially protestant might only mean 5% of its population practices the religion 100% of the time, 20% on holidays, and another 30% only on paper. The same goes for "quality of life": it could be that 10% of Londoners earn more than 400,000 GBP per year, but 30% live in poverty. But as far as social science and economics go there are many great methods of measuring "quality of life." It would take into account poverty rate (if you're poor and depend on the state for help, then you still have a better quality of life than someone who's the same poor but doesn't get state aid. The ability for someone to come out of poverty and the amount of money required to do so are also taken into account. Have a look here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_life#Quantitative_measurement

Perhaps what you're thinking about is the "happiness index" - which would indeed mean that perhaps middle-class who pay a lot of taxes to take care of the lower class (Europe) aren't as happy as middle-class who pay fewer taxes and are more self-reliant (USA), but also with the "happiness index" there are more factors than just personal wealth. Average holiday/vacation time; access to free/cheap/good spas, health clubs, parks; better/cheaper education are all factors there, too. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_national_happiness) I guess on the Wiki page it says right at the to pthat the GNH is the qualitative version of the QOL. I was talking about the QOL.

In any event - places where Islam is the main religion will most likely have low QOL and GNH. The real interesting thing would be to look at Christianity and Buddhism/Hinduism and compare QOL and GNH. I dare say Christianity has more QOL and Eastern religions more GNH.
#24 to #19 - ezombio (07/06/2014) [-]
&gt;10% Londoners earning 400,000 GBP   
£65 grand, maybe.
>10% Londoners earning 400,000 GBP

£65 grand, maybe.
#26 to #24 - doktorwhat (07/06/2014) [-]
hey man, many very famous, very wealthy people call London their home. Maybe 10% is off, but think about how many own a flat, own more than one flat, work in TV or film or music biz or in finance. There are a lot or richers in Londonius, my friend.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. I'm at 100% happiness so I'm good. How about you?
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