Female Veterans Speak Out About Women In Combat http://www.businessinsider.com/female-veterans-take-sides-on-women-in-combat-2013-1/comments en-us Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:35:39 -0400 Chicago Tribune http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51018163eab8eab14b000009 Isolated Leadership Examples Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:45:55 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51018163eab8eab14b000009 The only one clearly identified as having a coed army was from North Vietnam, the same country that has unicorn lairs. My particular favorite of the bunch, though, is by far Artemisia I who, when faced with defeat, decided to attack her own army. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51017d58eab8ea553e000012 chrisl v2.0 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:28:40 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51017d58eab8ea553e000012 Mike D, Do the site editor know you're using facts, logic, and reason on this website? They tend to frown down on such things. Loved your take, but the editors won't. USN http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510149f8eab8eacc4a000018 chrisl v2.0 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:49:28 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510149f8eab8eacc4a000018 Combat tends to be very violent. Extremely violent, both sides are trying to kill each other. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5101486069bedd1310000003 ??? Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:42:40 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5101486069bedd1310000003 What does the Violence against women act have to do with women being in combat? http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510145ce69bedd960c000002 NoSingleOne Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:31:42 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510145ce69bedd960c000002 There are numerous examples of female warriors in the last 5000 years of history. Some have even led armies as generals. They have existed on every continent and fought alongside men. Joan of Arc is the most famous example and she clearly held her own in hand to hand combat against men. <a href="http://listverse.com/2008/03/17/top-10-badass-female-warriors/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://listverse.com/2008/03/17/top-10-badass-female-warriors/</a> http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51014449ecad04b96900001d NoSingleOne Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:25:13 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51014449ecad04b96900001d Totally agree. Few women will likely be able to meet male PT standards, but if they do and they want to fight, that should be an option if they want it. However, PT standards should not be lowered for women or anyone else. As far as men abusing them (both on their own side or by the enemy), that is of course a risk they will have to take if they want to fight. Many men are tortured when captured and rape is just one more form of possible torture. I only think they 1) shouldn't be subject to the draft, and 2) if they don't want to be in combat zones they shouldn't be forced. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51014393eab8ea943d000007 Mike D Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:22:11 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51014393eab8ea943d000007 I'm an ex: Infantry, Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces, MMF, Cbt Dvr, Jump Master (Ranger and Cbt Dvr schooled, not assigned to  units). It is my most serious opinion that the ONLY benefit of even  thinking of allowing females into combat units is that it will make it  easier for the men. It will be easier for the men because the physical  standards for all the training will automatically be lowered by half or  more (read "Flirting With Disaster" The femanization of the American  Military). The reality is that combat is not a 'standard' it is a cold  hard set of facts. If one actually researches history (and not watch "GI Jane" or other movies and video games based on pure fantasy), one will  find that women in combat has never been practiced except as a last  defensive effort for survival. Think about this.... why are sports gender divided? If the Olympics were  not gender divided the sports (physical ones at least) would be TOTALLY  dominated by men. There is not a single society that can successfully  eliminate gender in sports but we want to do it in combat. COMBAT !  Where people die for lots of reasons, one of them being not physically  able to compete against the enemy. So, perhaps if we could 'fix' the  sport gender problem, then we could 'fix' the combat 'problem'. As I see  it, we can either make men more physically like women...or make women  more physically like men. Not a particular good choice for either. Living or dieing in combat is measured in microseconds a lot of the time. The difference between you and your team living in combat is measured in speed, strength, and the ability to absorb physical damage. These being the only characteristics that men consistently surpass women in all tests and studies of real life. If women in combat had been a good idea it would have evolved over the last 5000 years as a neccessity. It has not for very good reasons. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510137316bb3f7403a000029 no issue Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:29:21 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510137316bb3f7403a000029 But the risk of abuse if captured is not the issue. It doesnt matter if one is male or female, the risks of abuse in various forms exists regardless of gender if captured. The issue if not addressed head on is not the average women is not as strong as a man either. The issue is the litigation and other nonsense that will arise internally because someone gave a naughty glance or created a "hostile" work environment or all that kind of nonsense that happens now in the private sector and the paternalistic view of how the army or navy should "care" about me. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5101363becad04b751000001 hkgonra Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:25:15 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5101363becad04b751000001 I would just love to know why we are pushing for women in combat at the same time white house is pushing the violence against women act. Either we are equal or women are delicate flowers that need to have special treatment. I tend to think we should all be treated equal and have no problem with women in combat as soon as they have to meet the same standards as men. http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510135786bb3f7363a00000d Bubba Shawn Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:22:00 -0500 http://www.businessinsider.com/c/510135786bb3f7363a00000d Fewer American kids are available to serve because the American birth rate is declining. If women don't consider being captured and gang raped a problem then so be it.