note grinder <p>I don't think the topic has drifted.</p> <p>The point I wanted to make was that a ternary conditional is a viable alternative to introducing a scope (a 3-line if), if statement modifiers are not favoured by local shop practices. (Which is a reasonable edict, even if I don't agree with it myself).</p> <blockquote><i>I'm not sure where you saw the explicit undef? </i></blockquote> <p>There was none. It came about in my snippet from employing a ternary, which requires one to put something "in the else" part.</p> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-29008"> <p align="right"><font size="-2">&bull; another intruder with the mooring in the heart of the Perl</font></p> </div></div> 762138 762277