


LulzSec's actions haven't pleased everyone in the hacking community


I. More Attacks

On Tuesday a group calling itself "LulzSecBrazil" wrote:
The greater LulzSec cheered:
II. Civil War







Neuron - Engineering Student, US

Redacted - Engineering Student, US
Sabu aka God aka Brazil
Age 34, Leader of the group. Webmaster and Coder

Tflow aka Bottle of Rum aka Tmesis aka Sejus Christ
Possible location - UK, Suspected name - Solomon

Topiary aka T aka WhirlPool

Kayla aka LOL aka Parr0t

Joepie91 aka Joepie92

Possible Location - Spain

Confirmed Location - Florida, US

Pwnsauce aka Pwnage
Confirmed Location - Ireland

Confirmed Location - US

Redacted aka Recursion
Confirmed Location - US

III. First Arrest Rolls in





But its highest priority target -- Sabu remains at large.

IV. Hacker Warfare





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Anarchists leader
By danobrega on 6/22/2011 10:17:23 AM , Rating: 5
Is it just me or it's funny that a group of anarchists have a leader.

RE: Anarchists leader
By TSS on 6/22/2011 11:35:41 AM , Rating: 2
It makes perfect sense. In a world of anarchy you can do anything, so i declade myself leader. Somebody else protests, i kill them without reprocussion. Now everybody who doesn't want to die falls under my command and i can force them to get the rest to fall in line.

Anarchy always leads to dictatorship. Wether it's on the internet or real life doesn't really matter.

Though if they don't have a leader and are truely equal to eachother within their own group, their more like communists then anarchists. Equal to eachother, better then the rest.

If they really where anarchists they wouldn't be a group to begin with.

RE: Anarchists leader
By SPOOFE on 6/22/2011 5:39:21 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, it's not that simple. Outside a social structure, people will gravitate towards the most charismatic or the "wealthiest" (whoever's got the most of "insert desirable item here") or whomever can convincingly project power. If you're just some schlub declaring yourself in charge, and if you lack the Alpha traits that groups of people tend to keep out an eye for, it's just a matter of time before someone with better Politicking Powers ousts ya.

It's not guaranteed that "anarchy" leads to a dictatorship; in fact, there's reason to believe that anarchistic situations can be very fair and just, depending on the particulars.

RE: Anarchists leader
By inperfectdarkness on 6/22/2011 9:36:01 PM , Rating: 2
you clealy need to study human behavior more.

anarchy is naturally devoid of a controlling body/individual. that kind of power vacuum cannot self-sustain in the face of human-nature to usurp power and the desire to control others.

it may manifest in a variety of guises. "protection for the group", "preservation of group dynamic", etc. it's still a power-bid. no system can self-regulate without some level of power being delegated to a regulatory body. disputes WILL arise between individuals. eventually, one of these will demonstrate its inability to be resolved only between involved parties. when this happens, someone or something will have to step in to arbitrate.

you cannot arbitrate without power. anarchy leads to power convergence. ultimately this will lead to some kind of fascism, dictatorship, totalitarianism, or other authoritarian regime.

anarchy > power corruption. every single time.


