What a World War I French General can teach us about Obamacare.


I’ve stayed out of the Affordable Care Act/Obamacare debate. Mostly it’s because I don’t know anything about the health care industry and even less about economics. Despite my ignorance on those subjects, I’ve observed with keen interest the technical problems with the web site, and the data showing how many millions of Americans lost their health care due to the ACA. But mostly I’ve been interested in the human factor. Namely, I’ve noticed with both disgust and amusement how hard the political left has tried to blame the ACA’s problems on the political right.

In this interview from November, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, described as an architect of the Affordable Care Act, said this, referring to Fox News and conservatives:

“It [the problems with the ACA] becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We’re going to do everything we can to make it fail, then when it fails, ask, ‘Oh, why did it fail?'” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-L1dTNu2eo)

On November 19th, 2013, President Obama said, “One of the problems we’ve had is one side of Capitol Hill is invested in failure, and that makes, I think, the kind of iterative process of fixing glitches as they come up and fine-tuning the law more challenging.” (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/20/obama_republicans_making_it_difficult_to_fix_obamacare_glitches.html)

During a discussion about the ACA’s problems with Bill Maher, noted liberal director Rob Reiner said, “You have republicans who are refusing to make this better.” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aurY7nvQbU)

Of course, those comments were made months ago. Things have changed now, right? Not exactly, according to this January 30th interview with Nancy Pelosi.


Please note the part right around 2:20. When Jon Stewart asks, “Why do we have so much trouble executing these plans with any kind of efficiency?” she answers, “Again, if you’re dealing with people who have no agenda, who, ‘Nothing is our agenda and never is our timetable’, it’s very hard to negotiate with them.”

So if I understand the President, Dr. Ezekiel, Rob Reiner and Ms. Pelosi correctly, the problems with the ACA aren’t a result of a poorly written law, or poor implementation, or unforeseen second- and third-order effects. The ACA’s flaws can’t be blamed on those who actually wrote the law, voted for it, poorly implemented it, or demonized those who opposed it. Blame for those flaws lies squarely at the feet of those who never wanted it to become law in the first place.

I doubt I’m the only one who finds this amusing.

The left chose the ACA as their crusade. They championed it for years. They vilified anyone who argued against it. I recall the President saying “The one unifying principle in the Republican Party at the moment is making sure that 30 million people don’t have health care.” Dissent against the ACA was never described by democrats as reasonable or logical; it was always a matter of evil, child-hating conservatives actually wanting poor, innocent people to needlessly suffer. The democrats pushing the ACA were, on the other hand, noble and magnanimous knights in sterling armor, defending the health insurance-less from the greedy depredations of horrible ogres like me.

So what does this have to do with a French General in World War I?

When I was a kid, someone brought this book to my house. I must have read it four or five times before I graduated high school.


One chapter tells the little-known story of Nivelle’s Offensive, a huge attack the French Army launched in 1917.


The short version is that General Nivelle came up with what he thought was a great idea for an assault. Other people warned him that it wouldn’t work. He ignored their warnings and went ahead with his plan. The attack was a disaster that cost the lives of tens of thousands of French troops the first day (and many more after that), for little gain. The French Army almost broke from the losses, and mutiny ensued.

So what did General Nivelle do? He blamed the people who tried to stop him from carrying out the attack in the first place.

“Apparently overcome by hysteria, Nivelle traveled to Dormans, General Alfred Micheler’s headquarters, where he stormed into the conference room shrieking accusations… Ignoring rank, [Micheler] turned on his commander in chief.

‘You wish to make me responsible for your mistake,’ he bellowed, ‘me, who never ceased to warn you of it. Do you know what such an action is called?’ he demanded. ‘Well, it is called cowardice!’”


I’m not a republican, but I opposed the ACA. All the problems associated with the ACA aren’t my fault. Nor does any fault belong to others who opposed it, argued against it, and voted against it. If the democrat plan for the ACA’s success relies on cooperation from those who desperately tried, for years, to prevent it from being passed, then the democratic party is following a criminally stupid strategy. If republicans repealed Roe vs. Wade, over strenuous democrat objections and warnings, and the result was disastrous, republicans would rightfully be viewed as morons if they blamed democrats for the debacle. What democrats are doing right now is no different.

If you pass it, you own it. Especially if you pass it with literally no support from the other side.

As I said, I’m no economist or health care expert. Maybe the ACA will eventually be a spectacular success. Or an abysmal failure. Who knows. I can handle a failure as long as the responsible party actually acts responsible. The democrats aren’t doing that. Instead they’re deflecting, clinging to pathetically transparent talking points, and blaming the very people who “never ceased to warn them of the danger.” Do you know what such an action is called?

Well, it is called cowardice.



23 Responses to “What a World War I French General can teach us about Obamacare.”

  1. Agreed!

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  2. I never quite understand how you can choose t criticize the left, but you always say something like “I’m not a Republican”. It’s like throwing a punch in a fight, but running away when other guy is about to hit you back. If you are making accusations about the left, which is a binary argument, then logically you must be supporting the right.

    You don’t think that Republicans have a vested interest in seeing the ACA fail? I find that incredibly naive. If it does pan out, which it will, inevitably, then you will be back to screaming “Benghazi!” at any open microphone.

    And now I will run away giggling like a little girl . . . .

    • 4 Nathalie Leclercq

      To the giggling little girl: Chris’ post isn’t about criticizing the left just because he likes criticizing the left. It’s about the inability to accept responsibility for failure, and about the immature politicians who like to put the blame on others. Criticizing the left is NEVER a binary argument. I’m left-wing myself. It doesn’t stop me from banging my head against the wall whenever one of our many, many left-wing politicians has said something stupid. Which happens so often that my head looks pretty banged up.

      And now I will go find an ice pack to put on my head…

    • 1) This isn’t an either-or proposition. Opposing democrats doesn’t mean embracing republicans. I definitely lean right, and identify myself as mostly conservative, but I’m not a republican. And I will not be a republican as long as significant parts of the party try to force “creation science” into schools.

      2) Of course republicans have a vested interest in seeing the ACA fail. And if republicans passed a law outlawing abortions nationwide, democrats would have a vested interest in seeing that law fail. Republicans think the ACA was unconstitutional and economically damaging to begin with, why would they cheer for it now?

      3) The CBO just reported that the ACA will cost 2.5 million full time jobs over the next decade. Your people, of course, immediately tried to paint this as a good thing. “Isn’t that great? People will no longer be tied to jobs they don’t want, because government subsidies will pay for their health care! Now they can go live their dreams!” And they’re saying this BS despite the fact that your own president claimed the ACA would be good for the economy and create jobs.

      4) Run away, little girl!

      P.S. Captain Liberal and I are old friends who served in Iraq together. We fight every time we talk, but we’re still good buddies, and I would trust him with my life any day of the week.

    • 6 Vendetta

      Politics sure as hell isn’t binary.

  3. 7 Nathalie Leclercq

    “To cover a mistake by telling a lie means to replace a patch through a hole.” (Aristotle)

    The only people who are in a position to sabotage a procedure are those who are in charge of implementing it. I guess that the ACA problems were caused by poor management. And the politicians dealing with this mess would look so much more trustworthy if they simply admitted that mistakes were made. That some people didn’t do their job, their homework, their duty… Can’t be that difficult. Blaming other people or organizations for one’s own failure is just immature, but it’s the kind of behavior that’s typical for politicians. I honestly can’t remember the last time I voted…

    • It’s the immaturity thing that gets me. Part of being mature, of being a “leader”, is taking responsibility for your mistakes. Not shifting blame, not saying, “Well, yeah, we passed this law, and it’s a screwed up, but if those damn republicans would just [blah blah blah],” then they’re not taking any damn responsibility. And that’s not okay by me.

  4. I’m a wee bit more involved in the system, but your impressions are correct, Chris.

    The problems aren’t that the deliberately misnamed ACA is failing.
    They are that it is doing exactly what it was designed to do: separate millions of Americans from the insurance they’d had for decades, and destroy any relationship between care providers and recipients. We aren’t patients any more, we are merely a commodity, with a very low value to government, ad those contracted to see us. If anyone’s wondering how that works, visit the DMV, or the post office. Or one of those lovely VA-run medical facilities. That’s the future of American healthcare, by design.

    It is well on track to get there, and when the former health care system looks like a German city in 1944 after a visit from the 8th Air Force, there will be no choice but single-payer government provided universal health care, a boondoggle that will make Medicare and Social Security look like reasonable and fiscally sound ideas, by comparison. Because there won’t be anything else available.

    Except, of course, for those who work for the government, who – just as under the Soviet system – will have their own taxpayer-subsidized gold-plated plans and facilities unavailable to 99% of Americans. Forever. Welcome to Hell.

    That sharp pain everyone is feeling is a giant government weiner going someplace no one wants it.

    Good luck with that, and remember, the people who vote for a living rather than working for a living voted for the people who put it there.

    • Aesop,

      I’m usually a “don’t suspect a conspiracy when incompetence can explain it” kind of guy, but I see your point. Even if – and I can only say your explanation is an “if” at this point – but even if it’s true, there are still lots of True Believers at lower levels who really think the ACA is going to work. So it’s still a crusade for at least most of its supporters.

      Can you give us any more insight into why you see the ACA as a deliberate attempt to screw the healthcare system? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but as I said, I don’t know the healthcare system and would like to know what led you to this conclusion.

  5. 11 Vendetta

    Follow the money, that’ll usually give you a good read on what’s really going on. Who’s benefiting from this, is it Obama and the Democrats? Nope. Is it those lovable doofii, we the people? No. Is it the insurance companies whose stock prices have been going up ever since the ACA was passed?

    Sounds like a winner…who do you think actually wrote the 2000 pages of healthcare bill? Neither of our parties likes to elect intellectuals to Congress. The actual brainwork of writing legislation gets hired out to consultants, the representatives just argue for the TV cameras and vote.

    Looks to me like the Dems contracted it out to their buddies in the insurance lobby. Obama is the idiot who stamped his name on a piece of legislation he never read all the way through, and now he takes the fall for it as the perpetrators in the party and in the insurance boardrooms laugh their way to the bank.

    • That’s only Act II.

      In Act III, the government gets the last laugh, because:

      1) the fines for dropping coverage are cheaper than the premiums, so the number one consumer of insurance – big business – cancels it in droves. We’ve seen this already on a small scale, but it’s about to skyrocket like the housing bust did in 2007.
      2) the government then gets to continually adjust the regs until no private plan can meet the government standards and turn still a profit without withholding care. Insurance is regulated out of business by the numbers, just in time for – TA DA! – EveryoneCare 2.0, brought to you by everyone’s pal, Team .Gov, and Dear Leader, or his successor.
      At that point, everyone working in healthcare in any capacity is now on the government paycheck, thus tied into supporting the system unless they depart their career or flee the country, from insurance clerks to brain surgeons.

      That’s political economic tic-tac-toe on a national scale, and it’s exactly what they were going for when they drafted this POS. It isn’t incompetence run wild, it’s evil unleashed.

      The insurance companies are merely guilty of appeasement, hoping the alligator would eat them last. And it will.

      We’ve seen this model before.
      Nero removed Roman slums by setting them on fire, and for the two-fer, blaming the Christians.

      Government creates the problems, then it creates the solutions most in its own interest, then the cycle repeats.

      The Founders recognized this, which is why they made it nearly impossible to actually do anything that was constitutional unless everyone wanted it, over a decent interval. Government gridlock was intended as a feature, not a bug.

      Obamacare flunked both those tests, being roundly opposed, and passed in a whirlwind of utterly no debate or deliberation worthy of the name, even jumping the Constitution in how it was originated.

      The only question now is whether it crashes the economy before it destroys our health care system, or the other way around.

      Like Butch told Sundance about not being able to swim,
      “Hell, the fall will probably kill ya!”

      • 13 JimP

        Aesop has it. EXACTLY that.

        “….in the hopes the alligator will eat them last…… and it will.”

      • 14 Vendetta

        Possible…I’m not seeing it, though. You can’t make millions in a government job the way you can at the corporate executive level. I don’t think the Dems are gonna close that particular door for themselves, the paid consultant/executive job they can settle into after leaving politics.

        There will be revisions in the near future. Obama rode into the Presidency on populist rhetoric but the core of the Democratic Party is still a Clintonist Third Way outfit, the crew that likes a big government/big business arrangement as opposed to the Republican small government/big business deal.

        They don’t want to kill the insurance industry – as long as it’s there, then there’s someone else to share the blame with when things go wrong. If they leave no one but themselves, the Republicans have a ticket back into power.

        If the Republican Party really does unravel and break into pieces like some people are predicting now (and some fervently hoping for – not praying though, they’re not really the praying type), maybe the Democrats will feel safe trying to take a bigger chunk of the pie and things will end up more like your prediction.

        As long as they’re actually concerned about the possibility of losing elections, though, trying to run the business themselves instead of just regulating it will be a dead end move for themselves, the people they are most concerned with. Insurance is a dirty business – there is no way people will ever fall in love with the bureaucrats in charge of their insurance, whether they’re corporate or government.

        The Democratic Party will happily trot out naive idealists like Barack Obama to deliver the “hope and change” prattle, because this kind of talk is very good for winning elections, but at its heart the Democratic Party is neither radical nor revolutionary. Neither are most of its voters.

        The Dems could have just nationalized the healthcare industry with the kind of majority they held in 2008…that would have been radical. They had the means to pass whatever they wanted back then…it’s telling that they did so little. They’re afraid of deep and radical change because their voter base is also afraid of deep and radical change.

        Democratic voters are not hardcore socialists. They don’t want a revolution. They don’t want their lives to be turned upside down, to face uncertainty – they want order, they are responding to uncertainty. The Democratic and the Republican voter really want the same thing, a secure and comfortable lifestyle like the one they used to have. The only difference is who they blame for that instability, that threat to their ideal normal lives – rich people or politicians, whoever they’re convinced is more powerful and ruthless. Gun control splits in this exact same way; pro-gun sees firearms ownership as a source of security, anti-gun looks at situations like school shootings where ordinary life becomes a war zone for a few minutes and sees firearms as a threat to security.

        Revolutionaries, people who actually want that insecurity, who want life to be totally different, whether they’re imagining a Bolshevik utopia or a new Wild West where ordinary people are their own bosses again, are a fringe in America.

        They have no real power because the American middle class doesn’t need a vision of some fantastical new future where life is great – the American middle class has already lived that kind of life, the kind of life people around the world dream of. They just want to hold onto that, to keep that kind of life normal in America.

        The Democrats and the Republican both stay afloat on this – that 90% of their respective voting bases just want things to stay quiet, comfortable, and free of stress. The Dems lose their base and then the elecions if they upset the balance too much. The government wiping out an entire industry is the kind of system shock that will see the Republicans back into the White House – just as starting counterinsurgency wars that outlasted the election cycle ran the Republican Party out of the White House.

        Not saying everything will be rosy for ordinary Americans – we’re screwed whether Red or Blue stays in charge and whether we stick with Obamacare or go back to what we had before. But the Democrats are not a totalitarian party, that much I want to make clear – they don’t have that in them. They’re just another band of hucksters. They’re not a nascent Nazi party with a single ideology they’re ready to unleash once the opposition’s out of the way – they’re a coalition, and once their opposition is gone, coalitions fall to pieces.

        We’ll see how it goes, but I’ll bet you anything that it’s nowhere but down, no matter which party gets to hold the reigns, no matter what we do with our healthcare system. Too many cracks in the system, too deep and for too long to ever repair before it breaks apart. Not just Obama’s fault, not just Bush’s fault, not just Obama’s and Bush’s even though their mistakes were among the worst – it’s the fault of every administration for the last 30 years: Obama’s, the Bushes’, Clinton’s, Reagan’s, Carter’s…one unbroken chain of bunglers and scammers who sent the strongest empire in the world running itself straight into the ground.

        What a shame. And what a shame it is upon us, the American people, to look back and see that we were the dupes who wasted the years that our nation was at the pinnacle of its power voting loser after loser into office.

        • You guys are having a hell of an interesting conversation. Thank you all for commenting, you’ve given me a lot to think about.

        • 16 JimP


          A couple of points –

          I believe Mr. Obama IS a revolutionary, who believes the country as founded is Unjust, and is on a Mission to “Fundamentally Transform” it – his very own words …… and maybe he is being used “to win elections” ….but the Democratic Party is also being used by him ….. I will not be shocked when the “Affordable Care Act” collapses the health care system ….. then we have a crisis, which will be used as an excuse to Nationalize the health care system. He is an adherent to Alinsky, and seeks to overwhelm the system in order to destroy it and repace it with a “more just” Socialist one.

          Maybe he is naive, but he has a huge constituancy of even more poorly educated followers ….. never underestimate the raw power of huge herds of dull witted animals moving at high speeds….

          As for “most” Democratic voters not being radical or revoloutionary: ….. with a simple majority of housholds in the country as a whole dependent upon direct payments from the Federal Government for their standard of living…… and my personal observation that Republicans tend to be much more self sufficient, it’s pretty much a slam dunk that a majority of Democratic voters are voting for whoever promises to keep the gravy train running on time. Whether it’s their SNAP benefits, their unending unemploymnt benefits, their student loans, or whatever, So long as that money gets posted to their account at the stroke of midnight on the 1st and 15th, they’ll keep pulling levers for those that promise to keep that happening.

          Kruschev was right: They are burying us, by feeding us Socialism a little bit at a time …..

          None of this would terribly alarm me but for the fact that the system they propose will not work, and will destroy the country in the process. With 40 cents of every dollar the Fed.gov spends being borrowed, we are already bankrupt, and if we stop borrowing money (or if the powers that lend to us simply decline to continue doing so) the whole house of cards collapses almost immediately. We cannot afford the entitlement sustem we have, and the ACA doubles down on it. This entitlement systm is like being locked in a room with a bear. The Democrats (really, we all are!) are stuck- they can’t stop feeding the bear, yet the amount of food they have to feed it is finite. The question will eventually become, “Who will we feed to the bear?”…. at that point, it really will devolve into a political battle be be the last eaten.


  6. 17 reserve corporal

    Hey guys!
    Of course as soon as i read the words ” french general” you can bet i jump on my screen to see your post Chris!
    I find all this debate really interresting, cause from France it’s really hard to understand how your health care system works.
    For a really simple exemple, last week i broke my tiny toe the stupidest way you can imagine, walking barefoot and while i was quitting a room to enter another one, one of my toes decide to stay in the first room really close to his best friend aka the door. Off course i’m a big boy, reservist, doing some Krav maga i didn’t cry, even if my eyes have started to sweat for some reason…
    Iknew it was nothing serious, just a small broken bone, my fiancee is a nurse so she wanted to get to the ER, after an x ray, the doctor said it was indeed broken with no surgery needed.
    In total i paid 10$ (without my private healthcare so with it i won t pay anything)
    The point to this http://www.ilovetellingmylife.com is that, i agreed going to the ER because i knew i will pay almost nothing for it, if i needed a surgery with my private healthcare wich i pay around 60$ a month, even 3 weeks in the hospital wouldn t cost me a thing.

    The point here is to say, when you have any medical need it s always stressful and one shouldn t stress for the cost of the hospital.

    When i worked in NY ( selling christmas trees) a big ass tree fell on my leg and just before hitting me i thought ” oh no! not a broken leg, at least not in the US,have i time to go to canada or to go back to France with my thighbone broken? etc…”
    luckily it wasn t broken but i can only imagine how stressfull it must be for a us citizen without healthcare.

    concerning the left/right political war, i’m affraid the problem is everywhere the same, politics are not debatting as we do, they are fighting, they use everything to fight theyre oponents, even if thoses oponents are right.
    Lots of thing in the obamacare are really messed up, and no need to blame the republicans, but in another and lot s of other tings are really great and no need for the republicans to spit on it.

    to finish,
    I’ve found this video online

    and i found it really interresting, as this guy said, this healthcare system is not a simple problem with a simple solution

    • 18 reserve corporal

      woah! forget all the typos, it’s time to replace this keyboard 😉

    • 19 Jeff Gauch

      “In total i paid 10$ (without my private healthcare so with it i won t pay anything)…i agreed going to the ER because i knew i will pay almost nothing for it, if i needed a surgery with my private healthcare wich i pay around 60$ a month, even 3 weeks in the hospital wouldn t cost me a thing.”

      See, that’s not true. You pay every day. Not just in your private insurance premiums, but in higher taxes and the reduced economic opportunities. There’s also the cost of reduced innovation in any system with heavy bureaucratic control. But those costs are hidden, and people are generally bad at thinking about the unseen. That’s why Keynesian economics, AKA the broken window fallacy, is so popular.

      • 20 reserve corporal

        You’re totaly right Jeff,
        and today, when i hire someone in my company i totaly see the over side of the coin, and how costly it is ( same thing with my taxes).
        But if you look at the differences beetween the average health cost in USA and in over countrys i still think i pay less about it, than you are.
        What Chris said, is true for me too:
        “I’m no economist or health care expert”
        truth is i don’t know the cost of a visit to the doc in your country, nor dentist, or breaking leg surgery. I don t know either, how much do you pay your health insurance and i agree aswell that i didn t double checked everything, the guy said in the video i posted earlyer, but for me he’s got a point.

        Before working in my current company i used to work in a bank in a really poor neighbourhood and trust me sometimes, seeing people having their private healthcare paid by the government really pisses me off, why do i have to pay my rent, my health insurance ( event if it s not much) my taxes, my public transport etc when some of thoses guys didnt have to.
        My economy (and my country’s) will be much better without paying for a part of the population who don t want to work ( not everyone but i can assure you i know plenty of those..bast… gentlemen) but i’m still happy than some people who are in the need (those who want to work) (especially when i was 😉 )can enjoy those things. Maybe not all these services but i still think we shouldn t negociate our health with anyone.

        Finally, i still prefer paying more taxes but having a good healthcare than, saving money by crossing my fingers for not having any physical conditions, or accidents.
        At least your healthcare system gave us something really good:
        Breacking Bad

    • 21 Vendetta

      I’ve actually heard the French healthcare model being touted as a successful alternative to the privatized system of America or to a single-payer government model.

      Obviously it sounds like it’s good for you at the one-person micro level, could you explain how well it’s working at the national level? Are there any major issues or problems you know about with it?

      • 22 reserve corporal

        Vendetta, again there are lot’s of thing than i can t explain totally, but this wiki pedia page is really good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_France
        there is still something that you can here a lot in France about healthcare it ‘s ” le trou de la sécu” ” the hole ( in the buget ) of the healthcare”, but in fact lot s of taxes have benne made by our dear dear politicians 😉 to fulfill it ( taxes on alcool and tobaco mainly). The fact is our dear dear politicians, uses thoses taxes to pay something else, you know why? Because when you create a new tax, you can’t really say “this one is because we fail using our budget” but saying,” this one is to fulfill of our healthcare” is way better.
        our beloved politicians ( from left and right) are happy to maintain the citizens in ignorance about it.
        So, despite this problem our Healthcare system is really good, the only thing you re thinking when you are going to the ER is ” oh god not thoses stupid waiting rooms again”
        our personnal healthcare ( if we want one) will pay 30% of the total cost of our health expense, the other 70% ? the government will take care of it
        for common expenses. if you have some dental or optics needs i t s really important t have a private healthcare ( at least if you want rayban glasses, or ceramic fake teeth)

  7. Excuses are usually lies and the blame game is exactly that excuses and I agree it is an act of cowardice. We have 435 main elected federal officials who manage the affairs of this country and it seems that most of them like to play that game, blame someone else and this is no exception. What I think is lacking in our modern world of politics is accountability; no one seems to get to the root of real issues.

    The health care act is a fancy term for “health care LAW” and there are over 8000 pages of it as I understand. To interpret law a person needs a degree in law and even at that one finds varying opinions of the same text. How confusing is that?

    Who really knows what it’s about? We see the side affects from it; things like friends of mine are now paying unbelievable prices for their health care, we see folks loosing the health care policies they have had for years, loosing their doctor and seeing premiums they cannot afford with unbelievably deductibles.

    One article pointed out that there are many laws within this law which can potentially violate constitutional rights. Apparently if you are on this health care plan the government has the right to come inspect your home without a search warrant if the recipient falls under certain criteria such as “is there is a cigarette smoker in the house” What does that mean?

    Overall it doesn’t seem like a good law to me but who really knows; It seems that it will take on a life of its own and we hope no one abuses the interpretation of its internal laws to undermine our constitution. The people of this nation need freedom and the ability to advance their self through good old hard work if we are to keep the success we’ve seen during our nations brief history.

    One final thought is that because the health care law has over 8000 pages of legal jargon I think many people fear it. Some just listen to the simple words told to them by media and think it’s great or its not but time only time tell the story. I think that trust in leadership is at a very low level and many will resist the health care act simply out of fear of it. You can’t really blame them for that!

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