Pre Work Out Supplement to replace Noxplode?

Discussion in 'MMA Training: technique, diet and fitness' started by Jak, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. Sedulous OG Heavyweight

    Has anyone tried ShroomTech sport by Onnit?
  2. TheCanuck Featherweight

    no....i actually don't know anyone who has tried any of the onnit supps. some of the stores up here haven't even heard of the stuff and i haven't been f---ed to order it online to try, or have the cash right now
  3. Jak Moderator

    There's apparently a new C4 out called C4 50x. Has a proprietary blend for the caffeine part. Heard the taste is actually worse, but the boost is better.

    Will see if they have some here.
  4. TheCanuck Featherweight

    i am almost done my first go of the c4, didn't really enjoy it. Not that much better than others and the taste is meh....probably going back to NO after i take a ew weeks off pre workouts
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  5. Jak Moderator

    I could imagine if you are actively at the gym C4 not being enough. I use it more as a kick start for sports.

    I still haven't found anything that replaces No Xplode 2.0. Might try Mr. Hyde if I don't go for the C4. The bad taste experience was a pretty big deal. When you cringe just having to try to drink it. :mad:

    But I have learned my lesson that going too cheap always has it's drawbacks.
  6. TapEmOut Well Liked OG Lightweight

    I have never used any pre-workout supplement. How safe are they and how well do they work?
  7. Jak Moderator

    I started using them after I tore my knee and crippled my arm. For me, it was the difference between getting to the gym and getting a good work out while fighting through the pain. I'm also 36, so with age, often the motivation isn't there. If you work a 10 hour day, sometimes you need an extra boost to get you to the gym. I started using pre work outs after the age of 30.

    The Pro's.

    Essentially it's a cheap form of redbull or coffee. A scoop of pre workout is about 0.75-1.00 and has more than an energy drink in it. So if you drink energy drinks, think about what you spend in two months, compared to a preworkout which will set you back about $60 of 2 months worth. for me it's a cost effective energy drink. I don't drink coffee or energy drinks.

    if you've been a long time active gym user/fighter and have peaked, then it's something to try. If you are out of shape and find getting to the gym to get started pretty hard, it's a great way to kick start yourself.

    Those are really the only three(lethargy, peaked, injuries) reasons that I would really recommend pre-workouts.

    Realistically if you're under 25, there's really no reason to take a pre workout. And starting early on a pre work out can lead to easy dependence and puts pressure on your heart.

    The Cons

    Some people are easily addicted to things.

    Like health supplements, you can get a lot of what is in supplements from a good diet.

    Some will make you crash when you stop taking them.

    Depending on how you look at it, they're overpriced. If you take it in place of energy drinks, you save tons of money.

    They're constantly changing their formula's, and hiding things in proprietary blends. Many of the things, DMAA's, and other stuff keep getting taken out of them, so they're turning into overpriced tubs of caffeine.

    They are not FDA approved.
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  8. Jak Moderator

    I went for Mr. Hyde today. 1 scoop is 400mg of caffeine. Felt absolutely great. I balked on going for C4, just isn't strong enough.

    The taste of Mr. Hyde was good as well. Similar to No-Xplode.
  9. TheCanuck Featherweight

    I have seen this hyde in the store, never really looked at it as there are now seemingly hundreds of pre workouts out there

    let me know how it is after a few goes and maybe i will give it a go next week
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  10. Jak Moderator

    So far it's got a crazy a** kick that I haven't felt since NO-xplode 2.0.

    Certainly far and away the second best one I've tried(Noxplode being the first) in terms of giving an absolute punch.

    Will give another update in a week or so on it.
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  11. Jak Moderator

    So to answer the original thread question:


    Like No-Xplode, if you take more than a scoop it'll probably be too much.

    Like No-Xplode, it makes you jittery enough that you HAVE to go to the gym. It's not a sitting around pre workout. However, the jittery lasts only the first 30 minutes and hasn't made me crash. (like No-Xplode)

    Like No-Xplode and unlike some of the other preworkouts, less IS more. With C4 I found myself needing two scoops or constantly adding. With this, nope, 3/4 of a scoop is plenty for me(5'10 175lbs).

    Like No-Xplode it has a decent taste. Not chemically, no bad after taste.

    Like No-Xplode in the early years of trying it, I hit the gym and wanted to more than my body was capable of doing. Actually had to slow myself down to make sure I didn't overdo it on the muscles. <--- the whole point of a pre-workout!

    Like No-Xplode it doesn't just feel like caffeine, it feels like it's really pushing you. A good mix of ingredients and no proprietary blends.

    Super happy with this supplement. After No-Xplode for years(and would still go back to 2.0 or possibly in the future) I had tried EVL ENGN, C4, TRIGGER, Razor Blast, SuperPump 3.0.

    Have not tried Pre Jym or MusclePharm Assault.
  12. imhungry4444 Well Liked OG Heavyweight

    Just got some Pre Jym and used it today. It's pretty outstanding. I am a big big fan of Jim Stoppani and his programs. Pre Jym is not just a caffeine and heart rate elevator, it's got pretty much all the essentially pre-workout supplements mixed into one anabolic energy boosting formula. It may seem pricey, but for you're getting your moneys worth considering the serving size and the ingredients per tub. Same with his Post Jym.
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  13. Jak Moderator

    Question. How much better would you say it is than other pre workouts? Or in what way? I want to try it. It's just hard to justify the difference in price. It's $2.33 a scoop if I buy it in Canada. Where as every other pre workout maxes out at $1.30 a scoop.

    Up here it's 20 servings for $45 dollars.

    I might have to treat myself to it next week. :)
  14. imhungry4444 Well Liked OG Heavyweight

    The quantity per scoop is way different too. Usually it's a small scoop for 6-8 oz of water. This one is 14 oz of water per scoop...yea, it's a big scoop which surprised me. Something like C4, is geared more towards 30-45 mins of energy then a gradual decline. Based on my first time using it today, no crash or decline. Solid energy and pump thought my workout, start to finish, which was roughly 90 minutes. I'll wait until my longer and intenser days to base my a rating but so far so good Id say. Also, may not matter as much, but it tastes great. Cherry limeade!
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  15. TheCanuck Featherweight

    bought the hyde today, was pretty good, felt like s--- all day so it got me there which is all i needed, tomorrow hopefully will be a better day so i can gauge it more properly
  16. Jak Moderator

    Well hope it's a decent alternative for you for No-Xplode.

    (i'll feel bad if it isn't)

    (i feel bad anyways, i don't know why people listen to me)

    ( :) )
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  17. Jak Moderator

    I'm probably going to spring for some prejym next week and alternate between the two.
  18. TheCanuck Featherweight

    You seem like reputable folk, won't hold it against you if it sucks
  19. Cootersaurous Well Liked Featherweight

    Just ordered pre jym today when it comes in I will let you guys know how it is
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  20. Jak Moderator

    Sweet. Heck yeah let us know!

    I don't feel too bad about the Mr.Hyde recommendation. I've been drinking it since I first posted it and I've found it to be a pretty decent energy burst consistently.

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