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12:03 AM
My corner on Shog didn't work. :(
You'd need to also corner some folks in that other room
something going wrong for me in reopen queue , anyone else?
someone upvoted that answer :/
I know. :/
sd fp-
@SmokeDetector fp-
Apparently, sd syntax doesn't trigger message removal.
Heh, I just closed a question as a 5th voter, triggering automatic DV from my own VLQ flag a few hours earlier. VLQ-downvote test completed.
12:25 AM
@hichris123 got declined flags for 3/4 of those
@Dronehinge That makes two of us, just noticed the error when I went to look at it
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@KevinBrown Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
Q: Reopen Review Queue seems breaking down

Have No Display NameCurrently I am reviewing on SO, and click Reopen Review queue but got below error message, while all others review queues working fine. I tried 5-6 times, but the same message.

@SmokeDetector fp-
Can Smokey take the age of posts into account? If a year old post contains a "phone number"... it's a false positive.
1:00 AM
don't know if it that big a deal to alert us to those but..
1:12 AM
@xkcdBot that seems like fun
After posting my feature request Search questions by relative time of creation I found that the existing created:1d is good enough for filtering questions to answer. intags:mine answers:0 score:0.. closed:0 created:1d returns something of manageable volume.
It's nice to have a fixed set of questions that can be considered at leisure, instead of trying to drink from the firehose.
@Dronehinge I've been told that was a misclick.
Ugh, moar health to do.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Cant connect to any available wifi network by Brandon Barlow on windowsphone.stackexchange.com
1:21 AM
@bjb568 lost his m's.
so, roaring is part of health care actions of kittens? TIL
I love when my weather alert says things like this
@Andy check if your postal code isn't negative....
1:24 AM
There is also this
!xkcd find negative zip code
woooooOoooooooooOooooooo \o/
!xkcd find negative zip code
Lol. I don't remember that one
1:27 AM
download more rams
Q: How can I manipulate the DOM without a library like jQuery?

bjb568I am used to using jQuery for manipulating the DOM, for example: var mything = $("#mything"); mything.on("click", function() { mything.addClass("red"); mything.html("I have sinned."); }); But now I want to do the same things with Vanilla JavaScript. Is this possible? How can I do it? ...

Hmph, this seems to be pretty controversial.
Because nobody would ever ask a question like that. People don't sit down and think "I feel like manipulating DOM today. How do I do that?"
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1:32 AM
:3560373 fp-, nice to know that all 9's are a phone number
ineffective regex is ineffective
@HomegrownTomato It N does need to be ARQ if it's general reference.
!!/report gogole.com
I don't think that's how it works
gogolē is how you pronounce it?
yes, it's faster to type that efficiently with alternating hands
(ignore what I said, need coffee...)
1:38 AM
@HomegrownTomato No, that must be a (possible) phone number as libphonenumbers verified it as a phone number.
I measure effectiveness by the % of true positives that were identified thanks to the addition of this regex.
It's near zero, it seems.
At least there is a pity upvote on each.
There were 74 votes in the election, probably SE-wide record.
1:46 AM
> A calorie is a unit of heat used to measure the energy your body uses and the energy it receives from food.
It's a unit of energy, not heat…
Sounds like what you'd see in a terrible health/nutrition book
if I remember correctly is the amount of energy required to evaporate a cm3 of water
There are two different units with that name, just to keep things interesting.
One kg of water for food calorie (kcal), one gram of water for normal calorie.
> A calorie is 1000 calories.
yeah, we should just use joules
1:48 AM
^^ That's more accurate
@Braiam To heat by 1 degree. Evaporation is a whole another story.
> The calorie was first defined by Nicolas Clément in 1824 as a unit of heat
checks year
Nope, not 1824.
!find calorie
> if I remember correctly
I love to write wrong statements starting with "if I remember correctly" :D
1:51 AM
Nicolas Clément (1779–1842) was a French physicist and chemist. Also known as Nicolas Clément-Desormes, he was born in Dijon. He was a colleague of Charles Desormes, with whom he conducted the Clément-Desormes experiment. The two chemists are also credited with determining an accurate value of gamma in the gas law (see Equation of state) that relates the heat capacity of air when expanded at constant pressure vs. constant temperature. They also conducted research on iodine and played a role in determining that it was an element. This research eventually led others to invent the process of photography...
@AndrewT. bot is shut down again
^^ Article confirms he used it as kcal, not really as heat
Not sure why they describe it as heat tho if they also say he described kcal.
Go research it while I do teh healthz!
@bjb568 calories comes from "calor" which means heat
What is it, hace calor? I think that means it's hot.
gah, I have to write an essay for spanish over the summer…
and do duolingo
> Due to a flaw in it make, Mjolnir ended up with a handle too short to be practical. As such, it was often thrown by the god.
I know I am
instruments made for gods have flaws
1:58 AM
omnipotence paradox
> However, Loki worms his way out of the bet by pointing out that the dwarves would need to cut his neck to remove his head, but Loki's neck was not part of the deal. As a consolation prize, Brokkr sews Loki's mouth shut to teach him a lesson.
2:13 AM
Gah, it says eating calcium-rich foods helps prevent osteoporosis.
Yeah, right.
and produce cancer
Reading the health textbook "literally" gives me cancer.
2:32 AM
> Make half your grains whole.
The chat parser doesn't even think that's a valid link.
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Adding more than 15 digits in Excel by user111921 on superuser.com
And it also apparently breaks oneboxing.
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Hidden files missing from my phone by user77011 on android.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu, spam
2:37 AM
@KevinBrown Blacklisted user.
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@AstroCB and linking
Q: Why/how does the browser decide ☃.net goes to xn--n3h.net

wimIf we type into firefox or chrome http://☃.net/ It takes us to http://xn--n3h.net/ Which is a mirror of unicodesnowmanforyou.com What I don't understand is by what rules the unicode snowman can decode to xn--n3h, it doesn't look anything like utf-8 or urlencoding. I think I found a hi...

@AstroCB ?
s all around, I see.
@SmokeDetector not a phone number but... @HomegrownTomato :P
2:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user, phone number detected: How can I recover photos that may have been deleted from Google backup? by user77011 on android.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu- I almost felt bad for blacklisting them before
3:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Calculating weird numbers by Robert G. Wilson v on mathematica.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector naa
@SmokeDetector ignore- TEXT ("The Shit Program!"),
@AndrewT. and some f words
coding makes programmer swear
3:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Mail App keeps HANGING. Not crashing -- HANGING. Yosemite 10.3.3 by David on apple.stackexchange.com
Q: Do tomatoes really need support to grow?

cspirouI am new to gardening and I am starting out with tomatoes. I keep reading that tomatoes need support like a stake or a cage. However is there a reason why they can't just grow on the ground like pumpkins or watermelons? Do wild tomatoes grow with support as well?

I do.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Best Skincare For Oily Skin by kinzeea wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
3:26 AM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: This Product protect My Skin Naturally by Marry Ray on askubuntu.com
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4:01 AM
Half done with the health…
Oh, it's going to be a long night.
Are you going to have any classes-free time at all?
I mean during this summer.
@bjb568 just write on a piece of paper IANAD so I can not answer these questions
IANAD is a TL;DR of the health textbook.
@HomegrownTomato Yeah, summer camp, uh… the one week of scrambling summer homework together.
Too much schoolwork, too little time left to think. :/
4:11 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Asus memopad7 170C, unlocking bootloader fails by David Amaya on android.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector naa
4:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INVISIBLE HARD DRIVE by Nelson Wafula on apple.stackexchange.com
Those Apple design innovations...
dang triagers, that's what i get for entering the HIQ :o
New logic: Needs Improvement → review ban
How can I delete chat-room created by me?
4:37 AM
@Pandya you can't (I don't think that is) , you have to wait for it to become inactive and remove itself, or you could always bug a mod, but that should be last resort for very desperate situations
@Dronehinge you mean wait until became frozen ?
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: products similarly as Pax Vapor? by vineyaromy on drupal.stackexchange.com
@Pandya Yes. Or you could ask a friendly mod to delete it.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Professional skin care manual? by Mary Situ on superuser.com
@Dronehinge ok. how do I ask mod?
4:39 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Make over your spring skin care by MarryRay on askubuntu.com
Depends on the site you're on. Usually there is a main chat room where at least one of them hands out.
Yeah, and also hands out suspensions.
So don't bother them without a good reason.
Oh, look, a mod.
4:41 AM
while commenting on post, I accidentally click on
"Please avoid extended discussions in comments. Would you like to automatically move this discussion to chat?" and chat-room is created
Don't worry about that. Happens all the time. Those rooms go away on their own.
@Pandya i'd just leave it be, no big deal
@Pandya they get automatically frozen or deleted after a while. Click tiny "faq" link below-right for details.
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I kind of stopped doing Triage after earning Steward (badge hunter, me). But I do like "reaching consensus" with random people....
4:44 AM
So, a feature request: also show "consensus" page on Unsalvageable outcome. This post was certified as crap and will be flushed shortly.
Job satisfaction++.
That idea was... REALLY unpopular internally. Something about kicking while down.
But it's not shown to the author of the post.
And I'm not even proposing suggesting to downvote.
@HomegrownTomato no shaking downvote arrow?
4:47 AM
If that's what makes it unpopular, no.
what fun is it without downvotes?
@Shog9 ok this is helpful
yeah, see? Fine print isn't always pointless and annoying.
The satisfaction of the job well done: the post was classified correctly, it will be hidden from many users, and will be dispatched shortly.
Reviewers mention now and then that there is little feedback about the correctness of their decisions.
4:49 AM
Blatantly obvious audits hardly count.
Q: Feature-request to add total no. of reviews under IMPACT box

PandyaAt the Right side in Activity page of user, there is box heading "IMPACT" which shows No. of people reached No. of helpful flags No. of vote cast screen-shot:- As well as helpful flags, I think reviewing is contribution for improving site and moderation. So, feature-request to add one thi...

I think that one of the main reasons why people drops /review is that they don't feel that their effort accomplish anything, and any kind of stat, ie you have reached consensus on % of your reviews in y,z,x actions, would have a immense impact in keeping those people from not reviewing entirely
@Pandya Already available under all actions > reviews.
5:03 AM
@Braiam that may be the best thing you've ever written here.
@Shog9 I don't know if that's a sick burn or a high complement
@HomegrownTomato No. of posts edited is also available under all actions > reviews
5:22 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: You can reduce your chance of injury by Kenneth Rhoades on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: It can be hard to build muscle by jqulin lemo on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: You need to strengthen your thigh by Kenneth Rhoades on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector Doesn't say which one...
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Tired of Your Muscle Building Routine? by Kenneth Rhoades on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: AIDS or whatever there's a their by Mary Escalante on drupal.stackexchange.com
Anyone know?
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5:35 AM
@Pandya yours, tag edits and tag excerpt/wiki edits are not count, it's said in the tooltip
@Braiam uh, which tooltip? Mine says "Total number of edits to improve existing posts"
@Braiam I think close/reopen & delete/undelete are not count in vote cast as well so differs from ?tab=votes
@AndrewT. darn, they pulled it? The copy editor badge explains it in more detail
@Pandya delete/undelete and close/reopen are counted correctly if you are 10ker
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Forge X Back Pain Causes And Solutions by alyskath on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Forge X Back Pain Surgery by alyskath on superuser.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
5:49 AM
@SantaClaus Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector tpu
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Forge X Various Forms Of Herniated Disk Treatment by alyskath on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
Today is a muscle day. With just a touch of AIDS or whatever.
ugh done
It's almost 2
See if you can detect the degrade in quality as it progresses :p gist.github.com/anonymous/5e834bcbd11f9e64e688
5:52 AM
@bjb568 Nonsense, its almost 11. :P
what year is it?
going to bed
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Going back to previous employer by mark on workplace.stackexchange.com
@bjb568 1984
> This instant soup cannot be labeled as "health" because it would exceed the sodium limit.
H and Y are too close yogeather
5:55 AM
> ♬ Baby, instant soup doesn't really grab me because it would exceed the sodium limit. ♬
@SmokeDetector tpu
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6:12 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Simple cell highway so the fair our military by Diana Magee on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: The Skin That Is Best Care by Vincent B Jeffery on meta.stackexchange.com
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The other one I'm not sure about
it might be spam, but I don't think so
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: How to get free 20M buy rs3 gold from RSorder Hide and seek on June 12? by rsstar on gamedev.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Restore hidden pictures Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom by Lue Croshere on stackoverflow.com
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6:28 AM
@SmokeDetector detected as phone number, which is wrong, but good job.
@Braiam I'm going to start an overhaul of the review history page soon. It was something we wanted to do as part of the quality project, when we introduced the helper queue - it just turned out to be complex enough to become its own larger project.
People need to be able to see "That thing you spent time editing? Yeah, look how well it went on to do a month later", and it's also very useful to see how your review actions pair with the ultimate fate of the post.
I'd like to make this just become another part of your profile, although it kinda is now, it's not very easy to discover (or, much less, show off)
@TimPost What about declined flags? They need some care too. Currently they just get buried in the flag log unnoticed until you reach the warning threshold, then the system warns you.
@bummi gone
@Unihedron Yeah, what I'm thinking of doing is small bar graphs that shows something of a percentage. It's not just flags, how are your close votes ultimately falling? How are your triage actions ultimately falling? Because it's good to know that only, say, 10% of what you call unsalvageable actually ends up closed unanswered.
@TimPost So, a fancy inventory page? :)
Feb 3 at 13:23, by Unihedro
We also still need an inventory page - how much rep, flags, and cvs left for the day, etc.
6:38 AM
@Unihedron Ssssssssssssorda. When I start, I'm hoping to just grab a designer. I don't want to build something that compels people to use all their things:
Because knowing you can pull the trigger 95 more times isn't always a proper motivator in and of itself.
@TimPost True.
Knowing you have ammo left and stuff in your known tags, on the other hand? That's a pretty good thing.
So instead of an inventory page, it's more like a dashboard?
@Unihedron Yep. It's a place that shows you how you're doing by your actions being in line with eventual consensus, highlights things that really stand out from what you did in the helper queue, and gives you stuff to do based on how much 'ammo' you have left and targets you'd be likely to hit needing reviewed.
Good luck!
6:50 AM
Well, that's what I want, anyway. Any time you mix tags into it, you get kinda .. expensive .. pretty fast. But that's the big picture of what I'm going to try to push.
Expensive is bad.
7:19 AM
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@InfiniteRecursion cute duck :)
sd tpu
blacklist candidate cheaproduct.com
7:53 AM
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8:16 AM
@SmokeDetector fpu- dunno how to improve it
Bart offline?
what happened?
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@SPArchaeologist I'm here
@SPArchaeologist giggles Don't have a cow, man
Argh. He managed to return before I could gather all the mana for the spell "Circle of protection: eyeglasses"
8:55 AM
sd fp
9:09 AM
@SmokeDetector ignore- tl;dr
9:26 AM
21 messages moved to Sandbox
@InfiniteRecursion Uni was asking for some room bumps before. You should move those message there.
Can we not set up smokey to just dump all those messages into Uni's place?
I am seriously thinking of programming a bot that only does minor edits, to steal all the available food from the low-hanging fruit hunters
9:42 AM
and get the bot edit banned...
@AndrewT. why? As long as the bot runs on an user with 2k rep, minor edit are fine since they don't require review->time from other users.
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Number format in CSV file by GullitsMullet on stackoverflow.com
The whole idea would be to stop users with <2k from entering the queue by having some automated process that does all their minor edits instead.
well, if it's not rate limited, bumping all those posts from edits might incur a meta post regarding suspicious/annoying activity
@AndrewT. you know, that wasn't actually a serious idea, more of a ranting hyperbole
9:47 AM
not that I disagree with it, since Andy has done it for flagging comments
Extrapolation: Bots invade every minor activity on Stack Overflow by 2017.
Bots takeover Stack Overflow by 2020.
@SmokeDetector fpu-
Humanity overthrown by 2031.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website, repeating characters in body: technology providing an implausible? by Liam juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Problem with Leaflet Boundary Canvas plugin by Mapin on gis.stackexchange.com
10:10 AM
@Unihedron @AndrewT .... yeah, like bots could overthrown us... It is widespread know that the world will meet his end in the approaching great war of kawainess, that will see the ponies armies from the lunar republic facing the only force great enough to represent a menace ... the armada of Hello Kitty
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Screen capture software that can record 3D games by Kervin Lee on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com
@SPArchaeologist don't tell them that. They can't handle the hoof!
@Bart jokes aside, probably Hello Kitty stands as the only force that could conquer the world and make people feel happy about it. I mean... there is a single market area that doesn't have at least one Sanrio/Hello Kitty item on sale?
Hello Kitty is an abomination and a weak copy of Dick Bruna's work. There ... statement made.
10:38 AM
I don't know this guy you are speaking about, but I was just point out that Kitty is everywhere, no more
Look him up. Great work. :)
11:34 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Search a string without . character by user3276223 on stackoverflow.com
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@Mooseman Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
wait a sec.....
isn't this one a little to similar to Concerning Hobbits?
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Luhn algorithm check digit in formula field by mascot on salesforce.stackexchange.com
All of these HNQ's recently from SO have been super simple (and some dupes). :/
11:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Is there an idiom for being consistently unlucky? by SeanR on english.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: How to get/load/download source for quickfixj by FxMax on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: THE MOBILE# +639192616111 TEXTONLY by user2797884 on math.stackexchange.com
@AstroCB When it got suggested, my idea was that it could be useful to make Smokey report a post, and then you could TP it afterwards to train the Bayesian filter. However, perhaps @Manishearth (who suggested it) had a different idea why it would be useful.
@SmokeDetector tp
@ProgramFOX Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector fp
12:14 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Buy High Quality Fake And Real Diplomatic by oridiploms on english.stackexchange.com
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12:34 PM
slow day
(if we don't consider the usual spam feast)
12:49 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WINE MSIEXEC ERROR by NiXt on askubuntu.com
1:18 PM
@SPArchaeologist too hot to chat ... I need a swimmingpool and a drink. Doesn't @InfiniteRecursion has some duckpond we can use?
^ ... that smells
Wait... basically... the sample is a list of flat panel TVs from a specific producer?
I am so gonna click that link
I clicked ... and it's not a list
So I flagged it as spam
And if it's wrong, I blame it on the lack of swimmingpools and drinks in my area.
@Bart so it was stealth spam
1:30 PM
spealth ... stam ... something like that.
well.... I am jumping on the "this is a spam attempt" train too.
this might be a silly question, but how are the spamming botnets getting around the captchas so easily?
@CarrieKendall Captchas are pretty easy to break. Alternatively, it may not be automated. They may be paying pennies (or less) for breaking X captchas
ugh, that's such a disturbing thought
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: payezzee web service integration by Jitender Dhaliwal on stackoverflow.com
1:44 PM
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Q: Find IP address of cyber stalker

Robert ArthurIs there anyway to find out the IP address of a cyber stalker who is hassling my 16 yr old sister?

lol, i wonder why askubuntu
Ubuntu --> Linux --> 1337 H4X0RS
