"Empire" Questions

I watched The Cookie Show again this morning and then turned on some music.  Seemed fitting that Jazzmine Sullivan's "Forever Doesn't Last Too Long" because that's what I was thinking.  Forever sure in the hell doesn't last too long anymore.

My thoughts on Lucious?  That dude has the type of issues I wouldn't want to be anywhere around.  Watching Cookie fall out of love with him has been eye opening to say the least.  See...had he not divorced her while she was in jail, she never would have.  She would have stayed married to him like Whitney and Bobby and being around that level of ugly on a regular basis would have surely turned her into a Cookie we wouldn't like.

Cookie is, above all else, a mother.  And she has shown that time and time again.  She will put her kids first no matter what and realizing what Lucious subjected them to while she was locked up has awakened her into a MAJOR MAMA BEAR.  

Sure, she's a woman and she has needs so I'm really wondering if Lucious asks her to marry him again, will she?  I mean...sure...she is digging Sweetface big time but she's a smart businesswoman and knows that Lucious is dying so if she marrieds him then she doesn't have to worry about anyone taking Empire away from her and her kids.

Lucious is so germy to me.  I don't like him at all.  Dude is the worst-er-est.


1.  Do you think Lucious was lying about the baby?

2.  Do you think he will still ask Cookie to marry him?  Do you think she'll say yes?

3.  Do you think Cookie will accept that bipolar disorder is very real and her son has it?

4.  Do you think Lucious and Vernon are going to have a for real show down?

5.  What do you LIKE about Lucious?

6.  Besides Cookie...who is your favorite character and why?

7.  Will they ever find out what Boo Boo Kitty did to Elle?

8.  Lucious has offended each of his sons beyond reason.  Do yall think they are going to mount up and be done with him lead by Jamal and take over the company?  

9.  Were you surprised at how Andre's wife went in on Lucious about those shares?

10.  Who do YOU think should run the company?

Lucious and THE GAY AGENDA

The morning after the last episode of "Empire" I fell down a rabbit hole following links while reading recaps.  (I enjoy reading what others say about the show when they have a good voice.  LOL!)  I kept falling and falling tumbling head over heels until I landed on an extremely precarious ledge watching a YouTube video with 4 Black men sitting around in old school Black power meeting fashions discussing the show.  Like...I had to *BLINK* and get my mind right because what I was seeing looked as if it was from 1969...but they were discussing a show from 2015...that was on just last night.

Moving on...

The main guy began to say just how dangerous the show is to Black people because of how it is pushing the gay agenda on us and how the gay agenda is a major contributor of the downfall of the Black family and community.

I put my hand up on the slippery wall behind me from the ledge I was standing on...feeling the ledge crumble under me as I scrambled to get the hell up outta there.  I closed my eyes to the daishikis and caps without bills and pulled myself up.  Along the way, I clicked on another video with a young man who, I'm sorry to say, LOOKED gay and SPOKE gay (I know that sounds horrible...but hey...he did) pretty much saying some of the same things.

And I was puzzled.

When my head cleared the dankness of that hole and I started breathing clean air again...it made me start thinking of this GAY AGENDA.

I have gay family, framily and friends.  We all do if we're honest with ourselves.  I'm pretty close to many of them and we share our life. I thought about what their agenda seems to be when I'm talking to or being with them and I'll be honest when I say...such conversation never comes up.  Maybe because we're all comfortable being ourselves with each other.  But again...maybe because THE GAY AGENDA is pretty much just having the same things we straight people take for granted.  If that is THE GAY AGENDA...cool.  No biggie.  You want to love who you want to love, you want to not be discriminated against, you don't want to be targeted violently by hateful azz people, you want your spouse to have the same benefits as that of a straight couple spouse, you don't want to suffer the pain of being ousted from your spouse's hospital room on their deathbed by their "legal" next of kin who believes your love is immoral.

Seems pretty basic to me.

But the way those men sitting around the table were discussing THE GAY AGENDA...it was as if they saw something I never considered.  Some evil, banal part of being gay that exists on the other side of acceptance.  Like...the world would never, ever be the same good that many of us believe it to be, again...if gay people were...well...gay.

I mean...we can all agree that gay people exist right?  I'd hope so.  I mean sheesh...no brainer there.  What are WE supposed to do with them if we aren't supposed to accept them?  And who are we to even think we have a choice in if they get to be gay or not?

I stopped thinking about it because those types of conversations always bother me.  I moved on with my week.  

A conversation lead me right back to thinking about it recently when someone whose opinion I respect shared with me that they believe homosexuality was a sin.  I'd never heard this person actually say this out loud before so it stopped me.  I have a tendency of having selective memory when it comes to those I love so hey...maybe they've shared this before and I just choose to skip on past it and subconsciously knew to never bring it up in conversation with them again so I could keep my level of respect of their opinion intact.  The conversation wasn't contentious.  I shared that I didn't believe it was a sin stating that the Ten Commandments were pretty clear as to what is considered a sin and well...homosexuality isn't listed.  The person is a good debater so they stated their belief didn't come from a place of hate and that they accepted that gay people existed but yes it is a sin.

And I struggled to put together the connection of the conversation we started with to where we were.

Knowing me as I do...I decided it was time to end the conversation.  I simply didn't want to discuss it any longer and got off the phone.  I was disappointed in the person and, my not being able to continue to discuss it with them, disappointed them in me.

"Sometimes we get disappointed."

When my husband came home from the golf course, I was still feeling some kinda way and I discussed it with him.  He shared with me that I'd probably be really surprised at how many people we knew actually felt the same.

And I wanted to know for sure so I sent out a text message to the people I'd recently spoken to via text that asked:

YES OR NO QUESTION:  Do you believe homosexuality is a sin?

The answers started coming back immediately and I was shocked at the responses but I did note a few patterns and some things that really stood out.

1.  Those I was the closest to, and interacted with daily, did not think it was a sin.

2.  ALL the Black men (except for one) thought it was a sin.

3.  ALL the White people did NOT think it was a sin.

4.  The most Catholic Black woman I know did NOT think it was a sin.

5.  Only ONE Black woman who said yes answered with one word.  The rest who said yes, felt the need to explain their belief.

The most shocking person to me was an Elder Black man who I straight up thought was going to say yes.  His answer?  "No it's not sin...but it's nasty and I'm eating.  Get off my phone."  The more I thought about it however, and thought about him and how he lives his life...I should have expected him to respond in that exact way cuz he's a trip and he's the happiest man I know.

The exercise made me realize that there are no precursors for being yes or no on this issue but...if you're a Black man...you are probably going to believe it's  sin.  

I remembered in that rabbit hole, one of the "panel" members saying he understood Lucious not wanting his son to be gay and how Lucious wanting his son to be a MAN was admirable.  I remembered thinking...Lucious killed his best friend at point blank range.  He then stood up in the church house at his funeral and spoke.  Lucious has killed countless other people and might drop Anika in that same river this week.  Lucious cheats, sold drugs to his community to get his family out of the hood and let his wife go to jail for 17 years while he lived high on the hog she laid at his feet.

But...you're comfortable aligning yourself with the way Lucious thinks.  Lucious clearly thinks he is God and owns the power to decide who should live and whom shouldn't live and HOW they should live.  

Saints and sinners.

It all just made me think.  My mind all over the place knowing the church's stance on this matter is one of the main reasons why I stay out of the church.  Especially Catholic churches.  One of the most poignant text conversations I had was with someone who doesn't believe it is a sin but still grappling with their "Catholic guilt" over the issue.  She stated...

If they are Catholic, they are “supposed” to believe it is a sin. But they can still embrace that person. “Love the sinner, not the sin.” But, for me (and this probably makes me a bad Catholic) I believe, since we all are already “sinners”, according to Catholicism, that the real sins are the ones that hurt someone else. I, personally don’t feel that homosexuality truly hurts other people, unless it is someone who is a [Catholic] homosexual and feels so conflicted inside as to hate themselves because they do not want to be that way.

To which I responded...

One of the major reasons why I fell out with the Catholic church early on. I believe they took that hard lined stance forever ago because they wanted to add additional guilt to priests contemplating or CURRENTLY raping little boys.

And...we moved on as we do.  We'll probably never discuss this issue again.  I was simply wondering.

Surprisingly I was only disappointed in the response from the initial person I was talking to and I guess I need to deal with that.  It's probably because I respect pretty much everything about them so maybe I'd put my own feelings onto what I thought they felt about this issue too.  Like...taken for granted it was something we'd agree on and didn't have to THINK about.  

But again...I have selective memory when it comes to those I love.  You have to right?  We all do.  When we love someone...our mind justifies our love and creates blank spaces when necessary.

Again...this was simply a personal exercise for me.  It didn't change anything.  I just wanted to know and well...it's not something I discuss on a regular with people I don't interact with daily.  There is so much more that could be said, of course, like another conversation about the deadly sins and if those are sins against God or against man and if sins against man are the same as SINS. So much that is up to personal interpretation.  

And so much personal interpretation of things which don't affect many of us end up affecting those who are living that life.    

So...I'll ask you the same:

YES OR NO QUESTION:  Do you believe homosexuality is a sin?  Do you ever discuss this topic with people?  

Link to AudioBlog of this post:  Lucious and THE GAY AGENDA