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  • peterson1 - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    oh no. chinese products? there are hacking devices or firmware built in the kernel Reply
  • prophet001 - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    It is more likely than it is not likely. Reply
  • Sttm - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    If the Chinese Government tells them to put in a backdoor, they put in a backdoor. This is not like in the west where the US can tell Microsoft to give them data, and they can be like "No, see you in court."

    Chinese companies are allowed to exist at the whim of the Chinese government. Their embrace of Capitalism only goes as far as their Communist Party has control.
  • andychow - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    Hahaha. In the US, the government can tell Microsoft to give them data, and issue a gag order that the company never reveal that the data was given to the government. It's been a US law since 1986 (Electronic Communications Privacy Act).

    Microsoft is just suing (if you're referring to the Microsoft vs ECPA lawsuit) to be able to tell their customers a few years later that they've given the data to the government, but they give the data to the government every time it's asked, and that's not being challenged.
  • Sttm - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    Microsoft is currently before the Supreme Court arguing to be able to keep their customer data from the Government. They moved the data off shore to protect it, and the Government came for it anyway, and they went to court, and the Government lost and had to appeal to the Supreme Court.

    What happens in China if they ask? They give it or their leaders end up in Jail or worse.
  • Ananke - Tuesday, March 6, 2018 - link

    From my personal life experience, corporate "managers" in communist country are usually appointed, unofficially of course, by the Party. The "initial capital" to start a business is also given to them by the party. It is expected, naturally, that the outcomes of that business initiatives, are to be delivered to the Party - being profits, market share, strategic technology, military information, etc. The so called "managers" or "owners" can pretty much enjoy spending some significant amount for their lifestyles, and mostly to funnel /i.e. steal/ money from this business initiatives to finance their children education, obtaining citizenship, and purchasing multi-million dollar properties in US or Europe - that's pretty much the only way to extract some of the Party's money for themselves. And, they very likely will end up shot for graft on some stadium, but if lucky - their children will be US millionaires...
    This is how the Communism works guys, been through that.
  • Strunf - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link

    That's not Communism that's "Chinese Communism"... let's be honest Communism as idealized never existed, for it to exist everyone would need to understand we are all equal, think of a extremely advanced civilization where all needs are met without any effort, we'll never reach this point as such it will never be possible to have Communism. Reply
  • Hurr Durr - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 - link

    You're one gullible goy. Reply
  • Samus - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link

    Literally the only data Microsoft turns over to the government is that collected from their PhotoDNA project. If you have a OneDrive or Azure account with photos in it, they have all been analyzed by PhotoDNA AI and if suspicious photos are found, those photos are reviewed anonymously by a technician and if they are thought to be illegal in nature, they are investigated not so anonymously (think TSA body scans.)

    That's about the extend of what you need to worry about when sharing information on Microsoft servers.

    Google is an entirely different story since their business model is dependent on taking your privacy apart and making money on your data anyway they can.
  • frenchy_2001 - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 - link

    All companies have to respect the law of the land, whether it is in the US or in China.
    He was refering to this case:
    The dept. of Justice asked Microsoft to give them access to emails located in Ireland. Microsoft refused (as Ireland is *not* under the US DoJ jurisdiction and doing so would place them at odds with the European Laws). The case has now reached the Supreme Court and is being argued.

    In the US, some requests are legal and can be covered by a temporary gag order. As stated, if you want to do business in a country, you need to respect its laws...
    Although there has been a lot of noise about possible backdoors in Chinese made smartphones, it is unproven so far...

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