The police are sending out the wrong message if these substations are a "massive risk" and there are "life-threatening voltages".
Remove all safety measures and put a big sign up outside saying "Free metal within"happycyclist

maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........

The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?

maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........
The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?Rumpole

Rumpole wrote:
maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........

The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?

That still doesn't give them the right to go and steal cables.

At the end of the day all of us our going through recession, everything is on the rise and still is, i.e petrol, food, tax etc. We still have to put up with it and pay up, don't see why it should be different for anyone else, do u?

[quote][p][bold]Rumpole[/bold] wrote:
maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........
The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?[/p][/quote]That still doesn't give them the right to go and steal cables.
At the end of the day all of us our going through recession, everything is on the rise and still is, i.e petrol, food, tax etc. We still have to put up with it and pay up, don't see why it should be different for anyone else, do u?LawAbidingCitizen_MS

Rumpole wrote:
maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........

The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?

That still doesn't give them the right to go and steal cables.

At the end of the day all of us our going through recession, everything is on the rise and still is, i.e petrol, food, tax etc. We still have to put up with it and pay up, don't see why it should be different for anyone else, do u?

Why is it that a tongue in cheek comment is always taken seriously by the cockerel in mouth brigade?

I do not condone these thefts at all, the same as i don't condone these companies making obscene profits off the backs of ordinary working people.

Prices are going up to protect the profits of these big companies and to feed the greedy bosses that can't survive life without millions of pounds in wages.

I would estimate that for every pound these companies make at least half of it is taken out of the economy forever so no wonder we are in a recession and being forced to pay higher prices for everything.

These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits.

There are alternative energy sources but these will not become widespread until people can afford to have them installed but they can't do that when they don't have the money in the first place.

We are held to ransom by these companies and nothing will change while people keep on paying up without complaining about the rising costs and no affordable alternatives.

[quote][p][bold]LawAbidingCitizen_MS[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rumpole[/bold] wrote:
maybe they are stealing the big thick cables to sell so they can pay their electricity and gas bills..........
The profits of these utility companies are supposed to go towards providing cheaper and sustainable energy supplies for the future but i don't see my bills getting any cheaper while their profits are rising, can you?[/p][/quote]That still doesn't give them the right to go and steal cables.
At the end of the day all of us our going through recession, everything is on the rise and still is, i.e petrol, food, tax etc. We still have to put up with it and pay up, don't see why it should be different for anyone else, do u?[/p][/quote]Why is it that a tongue in cheek comment is always taken seriously by the cockerel in mouth brigade?
I do not condone these thefts at all, the same as i don't condone these companies making obscene profits off the backs of ordinary working people.
Prices are going up to protect the profits of these big companies and to feed the greedy bosses that can't survive life without millions of pounds in wages.
I would estimate that for every pound these companies make at least half of it is taken out of the economy forever so no wonder we are in a recession and being forced to pay higher prices for everything.
These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits.
There are alternative energy sources but these will not become widespread until people can afford to have them installed but they can't do that when they don't have the money in the first place.
We are held to ransom by these companies and nothing will change while people keep on paying up without complaining about the rising costs and no affordable alternatives.Rumpole

"These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits."

I say build some Giant Hamster Wheels, connect them to a Turbine and put the unemployed on the Hamster Wheel for a few hours a day. Genearte Electricity, pay the unemployed the feed-in tarrif. It's green, sustainable and would also keep the blighters fit and do something to fight obesity levels.

"These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits."
I say build some Giant Hamster Wheels, connect them to a Turbine and put the unemployed on the Hamster Wheel for a few hours a day. Genearte Electricity, pay the unemployed the feed-in tarrif. It's green, sustainable and would also keep the blighters fit and do something to fight obesity levels.Redbike

frank wrote:
can't wait to hear that one of these thieves had tried to nick some live cable.

im sure it was in the news a few months ago, someone got seriously burnt trying to nick live cable, and lives to say ' don't nick cable, its dangerous'?! born idle or what

[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote:
can't wait to hear that one of these thieves had tried to nick some live cable.[/p][/quote]im sure it was in the news a few months ago, someone got seriously burnt trying to nick live cable, and lives to say ' don't nick cable, its dangerous'?! born idle or whatLawAbidingCitizen_MS

Redbike wrote:
&quot;These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits."

I say build some Giant Hamster Wheels, connect them to a Turbine and put the unemployed on the Hamster Wheel for a few hours a day. Genearte Electricity, pay the unemployed the feed-in tarrif. It's green, sustainable and would also keep the blighters fit and do something to fight obesity levels.

ELEVEN people on bike generators took 5 minutes and 6 seconds to boil enough water just for a cup of tea.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=oWWwRtkUI
yQ

Do keep up ;)

[quote][p][bold]Redbike[/bold] wrote:
"These big companies that make billions of pounds a year should be made to create more jobs out of their profits."
I say build some Giant Hamster Wheels, connect them to a Turbine and put the unemployed on the Hamster Wheel for a few hours a day. Genearte Electricity, pay the unemployed the feed-in tarrif. It's green, sustainable and would also keep the blighters fit and do something to fight obesity levels.[/p][/quote]ELEVEN people on bike generators took 5 minutes and 6 seconds to boil enough water just for a cup of tea.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=oWWwRtkUI
yQ
Do keep up ;)happycyclist

Turning off the supply to a substation is a straightforward affair, as it must be quickly effected in emergencies; the safe removal of metal can follow. The interruption of supply to large areas is easy to those with confidence and little know-how. Irresponsible of me, perhaps, to say even this much.

Turning off the supply to a substation is a straightforward affair, as it must be quickly effected in emergencies; the safe removal of metal can follow. The interruption of supply to large areas is easy to those with confidence and little know-how. Irresponsible of me, perhaps, to say even this much.Graham Hartley

A responsible utility operator would have reviewed its risk assessment by now and would conclude that the security of these sub-stations is insufficient. If they then made plans to improve security they would probably help young people get jobs in the building and security industries locally instead of passing wealth to the investment bankers. I would suggest that unless they review their risk assessments soon the thieves would have a good case for compensation should they be injured while removing the cables.

A responsible utility operator would have reviewed its risk assessment by now and would conclude that the security of these sub-stations is insufficient. If they then made plans to improve security they would probably help young people get jobs in the building and security industries locally instead of passing wealth to the investment bankers. I would suggest that unless they review their risk assessments soon the thieves would have a good case for compensation should they be injured while removing the cables.Zoroastrian

PC Brindle said: “It’s a massive risk, as life-threatening voltages run through these stations.

No, voltages do not run. They can be expressed as energy changes when charge moves, or equivalently as line integrals (Faraday's Law). However one does it, one must acquire a technical education; and read plenty of Wittgenstein, thereby assuming eternal doubt.

PC Brindle said: “It’s a massive risk, as life-threatening voltages run through these stations.
No, voltages do not run. They can be expressed as energy changes when charge moves, or equivalently as line integrals (Faraday's Law). However one does it, one must acquire a technical education; and read plenty of Wittgenstein, thereby assuming eternal doubt.Graham Hartley