The ‘Science of 9/11′ Discussed in Two U.S. Universities

Amidst the break down of the Zuccotti park Occupy Wall Street encampment, other tremors to the collective psyche are reverberating around our nations’ universities. Two events are set to discuss the science of the destruction of the three WTC towers on 9/11 this week.

Abstract: To most people, the image of the World Trade Center (WTC) is confined to the famous twin towers, which dominated the New York skyline until September 11th, 2001, when they collapsed after each one being hit by an airliner. However, the trade center was an assembly of seven buildings around a plaza. The youngest of these, WTC7, was a huge office building, reaching 186 meters and 47 stories into the air. The ground-plan area was little less than a soccer field.

WTC7 was not hit by an airliner. Still, it collapsed seven hours after the twin towers in a totally symmetric movement with free-fall speed. It was the most unexpected collapse in the history of modern building construction.

The talk outlines the factual circumstances around this event. These facts are held up against the official account of the event as it has been presented in a report from National Institute of Standards and Technology. According to this report, WTC7 collapsed due to fire. But never before – or since – in history has a steel-framed high-riser collapsed due to fire.

In the second part of the talk it is proposed that the collapse of WTC was due to controlled demolitions using explosives. In addition, unambiguous evidence points to the use of thermite, which is an energetic material used to cut and weld steel. The newest findings in the dust include still-reactive remains of so-called nano-thermite.

this is good. I hope that more Americans start paying attention to the criminality of not only the financial institutions and the government, but also of the military. America’s military might and persuasion is what I’m afraid of..

trish

this is good. I hope that more Americans start paying attention to the criminality of not only the financial institutions and the government, but also of the military. America’s military might and persuasion is what I’m afraid of..

It’s good to see this getting attention in the academic field where it can be given proper scientific scrutiny. Unlike the thousands of YouTube videos that try to explain what happened.

http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

Wasn’t my choice of words either. Yes free fall accelerations is the more accurate terminology, and it is utilized by the over 1,600 Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth to describe accurately the destruction of all three towers but most notably that of WTC7 which falls as admitted by NIST for 2.25 seconds of free fall accelerations indistinguishable from gravity. This admission alone is more than enough evidence for an immediate new and independent investigation of 911. Thank you.

A 99% er

Thank You for posting this!

http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

Thank you for reading and responding

Redjade

this statement is why so few take ‘9/11 scientists’ seriously – statements like ‘It was the most unexpected collapse in the history of modern building construction.’ also discredit themselves. totally unqualified unverified blah blah blah engineered to scare people into buying their books and videos. ten years later, this is a new industry.

redjade

this statement is why so few take ‘9/11 scientists’ seriously – statements like ‘It was the most unexpected collapse in the history of modern building construction.’ also discredit themselves. totally unqualified unverified blah blah blah engineered to scare people into buying their books and videos. ten years later, this is a new industry.

joe

science is a new industry??? the only thing verifying these studies are chemicals and physics dude.

Dave T

What the hell are you talking about? All I read is “blah blah blah denial kicking in, trying to deal with it by writing complete nonsense.”

Greenjade

Congratulations on your theory. I’m sure everyone will take your statements seriously, I mean, since your so qualified.

It’s too bad that in your little fantasy world engineers and scientists are totally unqualified to speak about scientific and engineering issues. Do they have cars where you live, or do you just float around by using the hot air in your head?

GIJane

Its simple really, If a Brick falls to the ground thru the air its falling at free fall. If a brick falls thru a car it won’t hit the ground at the same time. This building fell as if there were no metal beams supporting it. No 14ft concrete floors to support generators. Its not expected because it doesn’t happen. Its never happened save for that day. The evidence AE911truth has presented has caused the National Institute of Standards and technology to recant on several occasions. If you lost someone, even if years later, wouldn’t you want to find out? Plus there is So much at stake. 3,000 Americans , tens of thousands of soldiers, and over one MILLION Iraqi’s over this. Someone should start asking questions. I’m glad its science and not speculation. they have physical evidence and researchers who were also apart of the investigation. Its not a career boost. They lose credibility even raising the question. BUT – they do it because it is right.

Joe Joe

Awesome rebuttal. 😉

Honu

It’s your tactic of making disparaging remarks with absolutely no fact or evidence that would actually refute 9-11 truth statements that make what you say just empty words.

And in regards to “scaring” people into believing 9-11 truth…yeah right, cause the Bush administration shyed away from scaring the American people into buying into their bogus war and opening the tax coffers at 12billion/month for 8 years and counting not to mention the lives lost along the way. If you believe 9-11 truth is about scaring people that’s fine. I don’t give a sh-t but the facts still speak for themselves. At the end of the day…you can curse 9-11 truth, you can spit on it, you can make all the remarks you want but you will still be on the wrong side of science and your position will be proven wrong in the end.

joe

science is a new industry??? the only thing verifying these studies are chemicals and physics dude.

Dave T

What the hell are you talking about? All I read is “blah blah blah denial kicking in, trying to deal with it by writing complete nonsense.”

Here is an article covering last night’s presentation at the University of Chattanooga at Tennessee. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/nov/16/seminar-on-science-of-trade-center-disasters/?local
About 300 people showed up. A good turn out considering they only had a short lead time from the approval for the event being given, to the date of the show to promote.

This quote is priceless and really the sole purpose of events like this, to ask questions without being overwhelmed by the emotions they can bring up.

“Rorie Jones, 19, attended the panel discussion to get extra credit and write a paper about it for her sociology class.
When the freshman entered the auditorium at the University Center, she didn’t have an opinion on the matter. When she left, she only had more questions.”It brought up points I hadn’t thought about before, like the physical aspects of how the buildings collapsed,” she said.”It makes you think,” she added, “but in order to come up with any conclusions we have to remove our emotions.”

http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

Here is an article covering last night’s presentation at the University of Chattanooga at Tennessee. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/nov/16/seminar-on-science-of-trade-center-disasters/?local
About 300 people showed up. A good turn out considering they only had a short lead time from the approval for the event being given, to the date of the show to promote.

This quote is priceless and really the sole purpose of events like this, to ask questions without being overwhelmed by the emotions they can bring up.

“Rorie Jones, 19, attended the panel discussion to get extra credit and write a paper about it for her sociology class.
When the freshman entered the auditorium at the University Center, she didn’t have an opinion on the matter. When she left, she only had more questions.”It brought up points I hadn’t thought about before, like the physical aspects of how the buildings collapsed,” she said.”It makes you think,” she added, “but in order to come up with any conclusions we have to remove our emotions.”

Camronwiltshire

Wasn’t my choice of words either. Yes free fall accelerations is the more accurate terminology, and it is utilized by the over 1,600 Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth to describe accurately the destruction of all three towers but most notably that of WTC7 which falls as admitted by NIST for 2.25 seconds of free fall accelerations indistinguishable from gravity. This admission alone is more than enough evidence for an immediate new and independent investigation of 911. Thank you.

That was the 767’s engine which is made out of titanium alloy, tungsten, etc. It’s basically indestructible and would easily go through the building at that velocity.

The pod, however, on the underbelly of the plane which was used to remote control it. Much more interesting to watch that detach from the plane and hit the building before the 767 does.

Dov Zakheim, Look him up!

He was the Pentagon comptroller when the 2.3 trillion dollars was reported missing on 9-10-01; Former CFR member;In a document called “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century” published by The American Enterprise’s “Project for a New American Century”, System Planning Corporation (SPC) International executive, Dov Zakheim, called for “some catastrophic and catalyzing event “like a new Pearl Harbor” being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region. A respected and established voice in the intelligence community, his views were eagerly accepted, and Dov went from his position at Systems Planning Corporation to become the Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001. Perhaps not so coincidentally, it was an SPC subsidiary, Tridata Corporation, that oversaw the investigation after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993SPC, according to their official website, specializes in many areas of defense technology production and manufacture, including a system developed by their Radar Physics Group called the Flight Termination System, or FTS. This is a system used to destroy target drones (craft that would be fired on by test aircraft or weaponry) in the event of malfunction or “misses”. This highly sophisticated war-game technology allows the control of several ‘drones’ from a remote location, on varying frequencies, and has a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.Flight 77 Is What Really Ties Zakheim To 9/11. Here is an interesting list of passenger who died on that flight:Robert Penniger worked for BAE Systems, (“an industry leader in flight control systems”), whose Board is comprised of many from the intelligence community. BAE has apparently removed their Board of Directors page, but it listed a “who’s who” of high level connections to the CIA, DARPA, and NSA.Robert Ploger and his wife were added “late” to the original CNN passenger list. He is the son of Major General Robert R Ploger USA, Ret, another “flag” link.John Sammartino and Leonard Taylor worked at Xontech (missile defense), another company connected to the intelligence community, also with ties to Boeing.Vicki Yancey worked for Vreedenberg Corp, yet another company connected to the intelligence community. Her father describes her death as a “planned murder.” Her widower works for Northrup-Grumman.Mary Jane Booth was in a position to know what was going on at Dulles Airport as secretary for American Airlines general manager.John Yamnicky, 71, Capt USN Ret, was a defense contractor for Veridian who had done a number of “black ops,” according to his son.

GIJane

It was Very Interesting that the portion of the Pentagon that was destroyed was the finance /records department. A man who was married over 45 years lost his wife whose office was moved to that side of the pentagon only the week before. I’m sure that and Cynthia McKinney’s carrier being attacked after asking about where that money went on Sept 10th were not coincidences.

And the people who still think that this is a just war are deluded. Glad to see people knowin their stuff.

GIJane

Career – excuse me not carrier.

rat

Yes parts of a Boeing jet engine are nearly indestructible. But what punches through the building is not a engine that has had the outer aluminum housing torn from it as you would expect after it’s high speed travel through a steel and concrete building . If it was you would see it fall away from the building in pieces, not explode.

They’re Going Down Hard

That was the 767’s engine which is made out of titanium alloy, tungsten, etc. It’s basically indestructible and would easily go through the building at that velocity.

The pod, however, on the underbelly of the plane which was used to remote control it. Much more interesting to watch that detach from the plane and hit the building before the 767 does.

Dov Zakheim, Look him up!

He was the Pentagon comptroller when the 2.3 trillion dollars was reported missing on 9-10-01; Former CFR member;In a document called “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century” published by The American Enterprise’s “Project for a New American Century”, System Planning Corporation (SPC) International executive, Dov Zakheim, called for “some catastrophic and catalyzing event “like a new Pearl Harbor” being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region. A respected and established voice in the intelligence community, his views were eagerly accepted, and Dov went from his position at Systems Planning Corporation to become the Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001. Perhaps not so coincidentally, it was an SPC subsidiary, Tridata Corporation, that oversaw the investigation after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993SPC, according to their official website, specializes in many areas of defense technology production and manufacture, including a system developed by their Radar Physics Group called the Flight Termination System, or FTS. This is a system used to destroy target drones (craft that would be fired on by test aircraft or weaponry) in the event of malfunction or “misses”. This highly sophisticated war-game technology allows the control of several ‘drones’ from a remote location, on varying frequencies, and has a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.Flight 77 Is What Really Ties Zakheim To 9/11. Here is an interesting list of passenger who died on that flight:Robert Penniger worked for BAE Systems, (“an industry leader in flight control systems”), whose Board is comprised of many from the intelligence community. BAE has apparently removed their Board of Directors page, but it listed a “who’s who” of high level connections to the CIA, DARPA, and NSA.Robert Ploger and his wife were added “late” to the original CNN passenger list. He is the son of Major General Robert R Ploger USA, Ret, another “flag” link.John Sammartino and Leonard Taylor worked at Xontech (missile defense), another company connected to the intelligence community, also with ties to Boeing.Vicki Yancey worked for Vreedenberg Corp, yet another company connected to the intelligence community. Her father describes her death as a “planned murder.” Her widower works for Northrup-Grumman.Mary Jane Booth was in a position to know what was going on at Dulles Airport as secretary for American Airlines general manager.John Yamnicky, 71, Capt USN Ret, was a defense contractor for Veridian who had done a number of “black ops,” according to his son.

theblacksmith

it just goes to show how corrupt and/or incompetent the mass media is. How many newspapers or TV or radio stations bothered to contact strutural enginneers or demolition experts?Very damn few. In the shock of the moment, they simply parroted GW Bush’s blatant lies. whn a few enginneers said “Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire-they HAVE to be cut apart with explosives.” the Republican noise machine screamed “traitor!” and the corporate media largely ignored them. Whether out of cowardice or corruption, the Democrats went along with Bush & Co. The result is two wars and trillions of dollars in debts.
The republicans are literally just Nazis who dont wear their swastikas in public; September 11 was thier Reichstag fire and iraq was thier Stalingrad. And far too many “democrats” are really republicans. we need to throw their Fascist asses out of office-and ideally into prison.

theblacksmith

it just goes to show how corrupt and/or incompetent the mass media is. How many newspapers or TV or radio stations bothered to contact strutural enginneers or demolition experts?Very damn few. In the shock of the moment, they simply parroted GW Bush’s blatant lies. whn a few enginneers said “Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire-they HAVE to be cut apart with explosives.” the Republican noise machine screamed “traitor!” and the corporate media largely ignored them. Whether out of cowardice or corruption, the Democrats went along with Bush & Co. The result is two wars and trillions of dollars in debts.
The republicans are literally just Nazis who dont wear their swastikas in public; September 11 was thier Reichstag fire and iraq was thier Stalingrad. And far too many “democrats” are really republicans. we need to throw their Fascist asses out of office-and ideally into prison.

Greenjade

Congratulations on your theory. I’m sure everyone will take your statements seriously, I mean, since your so qualified.

It’s too bad that in your little fantasy world engineers and scientists are totally unqualified to speak about scientific and engineering issues. Do they have cars where you live, or do you just float around by using the hot air in your head?

GIJane

It was Very Interesting that the portion of the Pentagon that was destroyed was the finance /records department. A man who was married over 45 years lost his wife whose office was moved to that side of the pentagon only the week before. I’m sure that and Cynthia McKinney’s carrier being attacked after asking about where that money went on Sept 10th were not coincidences.

And the people who still think that this is a just war are deluded. Glad to see people knowin their stuff.

GIJane

Career – excuse me not carrier.

GIJane

Its simple really, If a Brick falls to the ground thru the air its falling at free fall. If a brick falls thru a car it won’t hit the ground at the same time. This building fell as if there were no metal beams supporting it. No 14ft concrete floors to support generators. Its not expected because it doesn’t happen. Its never happened save for that day. The evidence AE911truth has presented has caused the National Institute of Standards and technology to recant on several occasions. If you lost someone, even if years later, wouldn’t you want to find out? Plus there is So much at stake. 3,000 Americans , tens of thousands of soldiers, and over one MILLION Iraqi’s over this. Someone should start asking questions. I’m glad its science and not speculation. they have physical evidence and researchers who were also apart of the investigation. Its not a career boost. They lose credibility even raising the question. BUT – they do it because it is right.

Joe Joe

Awesome rebuttal. 😉

guy fauXs

Again Im going to go into too much detail because this is such a waste of time, haha except for all the nutters who are profiting from this silliness…

I was a “truther” for a bit. Until one day I started doing my own research and found the majority of the claims made by truthers are complete non-sense. Thats the problem here lol The infamous confirmation bias. Truthers wont even bother with debunking. They want to believe so much that anyone who says otherwise is a secret government agent…

Anyway, its really NOT about what you’re shown, its about what you aren’t shown. For example, several buildings were destroyed on 911. I don’t remember exactly, maybe up to 7 total. How come no one even mentions this on the truther side? Kind of makes the whole “collapsing into their own footprint” argument a joke.

Building 7 was compromised by falling debris. There is proof of this. As I mentioned last time find it on your own. You might be surprised at what else you can find. Look at some unbiased photos, there is literally thousands. Most importantly think for your damned self and stop being spoon-fed.

guy fauXs

Again Im going to go into too much detail because this is such a waste of time, haha except for all the nutters who are profiting from this silliness…

I was a “truther” for a bit. Until one day I started doing my own research and found the majority of the claims made by truthers are complete non-sense. Thats the problem here lol The infamous confirmation bias. Truthers wont even bother with debunking. They want to believe so much that anyone who says otherwise is a secret government agent…

Anyway, its really NOT about what you’re shown, its about what you aren’t shown. For example, several buildings were destroyed on 911. I don’t remember exactly, maybe up to 7 total. How come no one even mentions this on the truther side? Kind of makes the whole “collapsing into their own footprint” argument a joke.

Building 7 was compromised by falling debris. There is proof of this. As I mentioned last time find it on your own. You might be surprised at what else you can find. Look at some unbiased photos, there is literally thousands. Most importantly think for your damned self and stop being spoon-fed.

You sound like an idiot….nothing personal. If you’re going to argue against 9-11 truth, don’t write a post slinging airy subjective beliefs that you don’t include evidence to support. You come off like someone who hasn’t done adequate research informing yourself. So you were once a truther? What…over an afternoon smoking weed with a buddy who blew your mind for a few hours and then once you came down you decided it sounded too crazy to truly believe? I’d contest your very general statements you pass off as the truth but it’s clear by the way you wrote your post that you haven’t studied the facts.

Jez

Building 7 could not have been destroyed like you say. The supports failed simultaneously. The kind of damage that you imply caused the collapse could not have caused the many 30-40 support members to fail simultaneously. How does a bonfire collapse? All at once? Or does it slowly cave in? Same science, same behaviour.

Yes parts of a Boeing jet engine are nearly indestructible. But what punches through the building is not a engine that has had the outer aluminum housing torn from it as you would expect after it’s high speed travel through a steel and concrete building . If it was you would see it fall away from the building in pieces, not explode.

Honu

You sound like an idiot….nothing personal. If you’re going to argue against 9-11 truth, don’t write a post slinging airy subjective beliefs that you don’t include evidence to support. You come off like someone who hasn’t done adequate research informing yourself. So you were once a truther? What…over an afternoon smoking weed with a buddy who blew your mind for a few hours and then once you came down you decided it sounded too crazy to truly believe? I’d contest your very general statements you pass off as the truth but it’s clear by the way you wrote your post that you haven’t studied the facts.

Honu

It’s your tactic of making disparaging remarks with absolutely no fact or evidence that would actually refute 9-11 truth statements that make what you say just empty words.

And in regards to “scaring” people into believing 9-11 truth…yeah right, cause the Bush administration shyed away from scaring the American people into buying into their bogus war and opening the tax coffers at 12billion/month for 8 years and counting not to mention the lives lost along the way. If you believe 9-11 truth is about scaring people that’s fine. I don’t give a sh-t but the facts still speak for themselves. At the end of the day…you can curse 9-11 truth, you can spit on it, you can make all the remarks you want but you will still be on the wrong side of science and your position will be proven wrong in the end.

Jez

Building 7 could not have been destroyed like you say. The supports failed simultaneously. The kind of damage that you imply caused the collapse could not have caused the many 30-40 support members to fail simultaneously. How does a bonfire collapse? All at once? Or does it slowly cave in? Same science, same behaviour.

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