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對於江青,雖然小孟同佢接觸唔多,不過亦有啲自己嘅睇法。
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江青每次嚟到啊,總有啲惹是生非嘅地方。
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作為一個工作人員,小孟就想盡量避開啲佢。
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對於自己嘅呢啲睇法,小孟對任何人,包括自己屋企裏便嘅人,亦從來冇講過㗎。
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有一次小孟病嘞,正在輸液嘅時候,江青嚟喇,由小張陪埋佢嚟嘅,話嚟探佢。
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小孟知道江青嚟喇,就趕快眯埋眼,詐假意瞓着。
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只聽見江青話:呢個小孟,係喺空軍嚟㗎?佢今日個樣,顯得好憔悴啊。
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小孟眯埋雙眼詐瞓,係怕江青問呢樣問嗰樣,多一事不如少一事嘞。
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所以小孟聽見主席提到江青,就唔出聲喺度聽,佢冇打斷亦唔插話。
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當然佢希望主席講落去,亦係好有興趣聽。
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因為最近江青幾次要見主席,主席都係避而不見,唔准放江青入嗰道大鐵門。
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並且每次請示主席,江青要求見面嘅時候,主席總係顯出一種反感。
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有時呢只係擰擰頭,有時就乜嘢説話都唔講。
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毛主席主動談到江青嘅時候幾乎冇啊。
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毛澤東嘅談話就係噉樣嘅,多數係漫談式,想到邊度就講到邊度。
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由於佢嘅廣博嘅學識,善於聯想同埋比喻發揮嘅才能,所以聽嘅人呢,都唔會覺得疲勞乏味嘅。
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往往講下講下,喺邊一點上有咗興趣喇,或者某人嘅提問、插話,提醒咗啓發主席。
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佢會用佢嚟做題目,深深噉開掘落去,大大發揮一番,並引以為榮啊。
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睇嚟今日主席將話題,誒,或者話嗰個話題將主席引到江青嘅問題上便喇。
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主席突然向小孟提出一個意想不到個問題:
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孟夫子,如果全國啲人,都知道咗我同江青離婚嘅消息,會點樣呢?
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小孟成個傻晒。
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呢句説話佢雖然聽得十分清楚,但係佢好耐都未反應過嚟係咩嘢意思。
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的確,主席同江青呢種特殊嘅家庭關係,小孟亦有過一啲想法。
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入咗中南海以後,佢先至知道真情。
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佢多次發現主席唔願見江青,甚至唔願提起江青呢個名。
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但係佢又唔明白,至高無上嘅毛澤東,咩嘢事情都可以辦到嘅毛澤東,乜嘢困難、乜嘢敵人都難唔倒、嚇唔倒嘅毛澤東,點解唔能夠痛痛快快噉同江青離婚呢?
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離開,咪算咯,何必噉樣啫?
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佢好天真噉樣想過好多次,甚至好多次同主席傾偈嘅時候,佢都想提出自己呢個疑問。
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但係佢畢竟係有顧慮嘅,佢畢竟唔敢涉及呢個對佢嚟講嘅絕對禁區。
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佢同毛澤東嘅相處,以及地位嘅懸殊,仲未曾達到,係恐怕亦永遠唔可能達到嗰種毫無顧慮嘅程度。
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毛澤東身上依舊籠罩住一個神秘嘅光環,儘管小孟多次想去打破呢個神秘。
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每次當佢為毛澤東護理住日常生活嘅時候,佢亦時時將毛澤東當成係一個普通嘅老人。
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偉人同普通人嘅形象喺度變換住,但係偉人嘅神秘始終迷惑住佢。
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小孟停咗好耐先至話:
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你,唔係冇同江青離婚咩?
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或者呢個問題,主席唔係為小孟提出嚟,而係為自己提出嚟嘅。
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睇嚟,亦唔係今日先至提出嚟嘅添。
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所以唔等小孟回答,主席就自問自答嘞:
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孟夫子,唔使你回答,你係答唔出㗎喇。
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離婚,啊,我去邊度起訴哦?
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離婚總係要辦個手續啩?
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到嗰陣時,唔知道係法官聽我嘅呢,定係我聽法官㗎喇。
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噉可能要大大熱鬧一番喇。
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總有一日,一了百了,通通解決。
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講到呢處,主席又笑起嚟嘞。
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嗰啲笑聲裏便,既有一種頑強嘅自信與豁達,又有一種無可奈何嘅壓抑。
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呢次係小孟自從入中南海以嚟,第一次,亦係唯一嘅一次聽主席主動談江青。
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但係直到今時今日,有一個問題小孟仍然搞唔清楚㗎:
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主席,真係想過同江青離婚咩?
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毛澤東好願意同人談論問題,特別係遇到佢感興趣嘅話題,佢就會滔滔不絕,不知疲倦。
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佢有時會忘記咗自己嘅身份,忘記咗自我。
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即使係到咗晚年,佢依舊談風甚健啊。
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喺小孟入中南海冇幾耐嗰陣,主席嘅精神仲可以,就係視力唔得,説説笑笑嘅時候比較多。
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有一日,主席同小孟話:
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孟夫子,稱呼你做孟夫子呢,真係有啲冤枉你咯。
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你同歷史上嘅孟夫子有相同之處,係一個祖宗。
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嗯佢姓孟,你亦係姓孟。
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不過嗰個孟夫子係個大學問家啊,你呢個小孟夫子,讀書甚少就愧對祖宗喇。
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應該爭一口氣,讀多啲書,讀入去,鑽出嚟。
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我都講過畀你聽嘞,喺我呢一度,係睇書任你睇到夠。
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我呢度嘅存書呀,就夠你有排睇㗎喇。
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你想睇咩嘢書,只要搵小周佢就會借畀你嘅。
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儘管主席嘅語氣十分和緩,近似於漫談,亦好似係開玩笑。
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但係小孟隱隱約約覺得,主席説話裏便嘅嗰種批評成分。
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不過佢唔覺得委屈,因為主席嘅態度係誠懇嘅,所講嘅情況呢亦都係真實㗎。
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佢畀主席嘅真誠同坦率深深噉打動嘞,佢第一次同主席認真噉談論起呢個問題。
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小孟話:主席,你亦都知道我水平㗎啦,讀下報紙、文件就可以。
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你嗰啲書我能夠睇得懂嘅有幾多本啊?睇唔懂嘅咁多,我點讀法啊?
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能夠睇得懂幾本就先睇幾本,呢幾本真係睇得懂咯,就會影響下幾本。
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至少係嚟咗興趣咯,有信心咯,有興趣就唔會覺得枯燥,有信心呢就唔覺得困難。
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真係睇唔懂,噉仲可以問嘛,學問,學問,就係又學又問。
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可以問下周圍嘅人,亦可以問我嘛。
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主席講完,攞起支筆喺一張便條上便寫咗兩個字:學問,順手攞畀小孟。
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主席話:你就係要邊學邊問。
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我年輕嘅時候,做過教員。
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而家老咯,但係教你噉樣嘅學生,噉仲係可以啩?
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如果將我都問起喇,説明我亦唔懂。
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噉我啊再去問嘛,問書、問人都可以。
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總之邊個會,邊個就係老師。
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噉我哋又變成咗同學咯。
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我係唔怕你問嘅,就係怕你唔問啫。
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小孟好高興噉話:我能夠向你請教,請你做我老師噉梗係好啦,就係怕你唔教我呢個笨學生啫。
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主席又笑喇,佢話:我就係願意教笨學生。
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你唔知道咋,我亦有好多老師㗎。
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章含之教我英語,係我嘅英文老師。
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蘆荻啊幫我講歷史,係我嘅歷史老師。
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我喺佢面前呀,亦好笨㗎。
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一句英語教我好幾次,我都記唔住,你話笨唔笨呢?
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不過章老師唔嫌我笨,越笨越教。
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自從呢次談話以後,小孟就有意識噉為自己定咗一條規矩:
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只要主席精神仲可以,佢就向主席,提一啲問題。
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佢仲噉樣想過:如果我提嘅問題,能夠將主席問到啞口無言,噉就有意思喇。
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嗰陣時呀,主席會點樣呢?
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但係可惜嘅係,噉樣嘅情況一次都冇出現過。
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有一日下午,主席同身邊嘅工作人員一齊睇電影,電影嘅名係紅與黑。
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睇完電影之後,大家不免對片中嘅情節同人物進行議論。
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客廳裏便,出現咗少有嘅熱烈氣氛。
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主席呢陣時雖然冇顯出疲勞嘅神態,但係佢坐喺沙發上一言不發。
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唔知係聽大家講呢,定係諗緊第二樣事情嘞。
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過咗一陣間,大家都見到主席攞起一本書嚟睇,就好自覺噉離開咗咯。
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大廳裏便,又恢復返往時嘅寧靜。
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主席擔高頭睇咗一眼小孟,就放低本書話:
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孟夫子,對先頭齣電影,有何意見啊?
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主席並冇等小孟回答,或者佢根本就唔想小孟而家回答。
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佢跟住講咗一句小孟冇想到嘅説話:有何高見呢,今日可以不談。
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你去小周嗰度借一本紅與黑嘅書,睇佢一次,至少一次,然後再談啦。
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書裏便嘅嘢,有時係電影裏便冇法子表達嘅。
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你唔係睇過紅樓夢咩?仲可以再借一本紅樓夢,對照住嚟睇一次,噉樣,可能會更有意思。
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小孟真係問小周借咗呢本書,認真噉睇咗一次,仲做咗讀書筆記,將自己嘅睇法、自己嘅疑問,都記喺個簿處。
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主席睇過紅樓夢就唔止一次嘞,並且能夠對全書,以及書中嘅各種人物作出佢嗰種獨特嘅評價。
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有啲評價猛聽起嚟,似乎係漫不經心噉講笑。
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但係你細心咀嚼起嚟,又不得不承認佢有佢嘅道理嘅。
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佢對王熙鳳嘅評價極之高,認為王熙鳳係做內務部長嘅材料,稱認佢有戰略頭腦。
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有一次佢舉個例講:王熙鳳處理尤二姐事件,真係有理、有力、有節啊。
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主席仲話王熙鳳善使兩把殺人不見血嘅飛刀。
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你睇,佢將賈瑞搞到死而無怨,至死不悟啊。
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就係以噉樣嘅標準,佢唔止一次評説過紅樓夢。
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令小孟認真驚異嘅係,主席雖然係八十幾歲嘅高齡,但係記憶力呢仲係非同尋常,有驚人嘅準確性。
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甚至仲能夠準確無誤噉,講出呢啲取自邊一張,邊一節,邊一頁。
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有時,將各家唔同嘅評説進行比較。
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可見佢對於呢部書嘅特殊喜愛同熟悉嘞。
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主席對紅與黑呢本書亦頗為喜愛,佢睇過好多次。
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西方嘅小説,紅與黑,可能係佢睇得最仔細嘅一部。
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佢曾經幾次建議別人睇呢部小説。
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呢一日,又輪到小孟值班嘞。
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嗰日係初夏嘅一個下午。
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由於主席嘅房間裏便,終年保持住二十三度恆温,屋裏便感覺唔到外便四季嘅變化。
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但係透過窗口,可以見到窗外嗰一片碧綠世界,仲係令人感覺到夏日嘅氣息。
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主席坐喺沙發上便,漫談式噉將紅樓夢同紅與黑相提並論,佢話:
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真係無巧不成書,兩部書名嘅第一個字都係紅字,可見東西方都有紅學㗎。
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孟夫子,點啊?兩本書都睇完啦嘛?
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小孟岌一岌頭。
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今日,我哋先談下西方嘅紅樓夢。
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你睇咗電影又睇咗書,而家有發言權喇,請先發表高見啦。
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小孟由於做咗認真嘅準備,就一、二、三、四噉滔滔不絕噉講嘞噃。
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主席知道小孟嘅習慣,佢講說話又快又急,所以主席只能夠靜一靜噉聽,並唔打斷佢。
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講到收尾小孟話:
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我睇嗰個于連呀,係個膽大包天,無事生非嘅壞蛋,一啲都唔值得同情嘅。
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佢不安於職守,仲想入非非添。
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佢勾引市長夫人,破壞別人嘅幸福家庭。
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見到小孟講完喇,主席先至慢慢噉,講咗佢同小孟嘅唔同睇法。
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你話于連膽大包天啊,我就唔係噉睇嘞。
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于連係有啲膽大,不過仲未大到包天。
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你睇佢吖,只係敢喺枱底摸夫人隻手,仲係夜晚冇人見嘅時候。
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呢啲膽量,唔叫得做包天。
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佢去夫人間房嘅時候,亦係好緊張㗎嘛。
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不過就係膽大包天咯,我睇亦唔係咩嘢壞事吖,男子漢,仲係應該有啲膽量㗎嘛,總係比膽小如鼠好啩?
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我睇嗰個夫人,係欣賞佢呢個膽量嘅。
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呢陣時,毛澤東侃侃而談。
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佢忘記咗自己係一國之首,忘記咗眼前呢個小同鄉嘅知識水平,忘記咗國情。
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佢無所顧忌噉講自己嘅觀點。
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小孟啊擘大雙眼,聽得好認真,又覺得新鮮而驚奇。
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小孟問:噉,你係講于連係個大好人咯噃?
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話于連係壞蛋,就要睇你企喺咩嘢立場上去睇嘞。
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角度唔同,結論亦唔會一樣。
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企喺呢便睇,係個壞蛋;
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企喺嗰便睇,或者又係個大大嘅好人。
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聽到主席呢個講法,小孟想起咗主席平日好少同意別人嘅睇法嘅,總係有標新立異之見。
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因此呢,亦唔覺得奇怪喇。