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Am I missing something, Jeremy, are you saying Jesus death on the cross was NOT in God’s plan? I do agree that man; the Romans, Jews and even in reality; ourselves, are guilty of crucifying Christ, but is that not what God planned from ‘the foundation of the world ‘?
Good question. I probably need to clarify what I have written on this. I think the difference is between God knowing that the crucifixion would occur, and actually organizing the events so that they did occur.
Yes, one of the proverbial diamonds in the sand of which we’ve spoken. When you pick it up and consider its various facets, you should find the answers to your questions from your current field of study. You might also note that this is that of which our friend-in-common has been writing. I wonder, however, if you are holding it right-side-up or upside-down.
You are a blessing to me. Thanks!
Forget the myths and concentrate on the facts!
Jesus of Nazareth was a Prophet of Israel, just like Prophet Jeremiah and repeated what the Prophets had said before him. He was a TORAH believer and condemned TALMUDIC Judaism (The Oral Traditions).
Jesus demanded the death penalty.
You’re right, God is not the violent perpetrator. Far from it. God it totally right, righteous, and good. No evil can be found in Him.
But I must mention one very important detail. God didn’t demand the death of Jesus, without Jesus’s consent. In John chapter 10, we see the following important details.
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his live for the sheep.” (John 10:11) He gave his life, willingly, for fallen human beings.
Later in the 10th chapter of John, He says “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
He laid it down, as a perfect Sacrifice, totally willingly. He wasn’t an innocent victim, in the light of having no ability to stop his execution. He wasn’t a scapegoat, cruelly put to death, without his consent, with no divine plan being in place that the whole Trinity didn’t willingly agree on. No, I’m not saying that they would disagree, they are perfect. But, the point is, all 3 Persons of the Trinity, The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit, all agreed that the Sacrifice of Jesus’s blood was the only way for sin to be forgiven, and for the debt to be paid for, so we didn’t have to face the judgment that our sins deserve, an eternity in a lake of fire.
I have to say that the scapegoat mechanism was in the human heart because OF the sin nature. Since God is the Judge (Psalms 50:6), and “…hath prepared his throne for judgment. And he shall judge the world in righteousness…” (Psalms 9:7-8), sin must be dealt with, and in righteousness. If God didn’t judge the evils of the sin nature, then He wouldn’t be true and righteous in his judgment. He couldn’t be trusted as God. He would have been lying, if scripture says He will judge in righteousness, and if He ended up in not administering righteous judgment.
So, we conclude that the way He, and thus, the whole Trinity chose to handle sin, is righteous.
After those statements, I make the comment that it was God’s Predetermined plan for the Son to die for the sin of the human race.
Thus, we see that, in conjunction with Acts 2:23, and the rest of the context of Scripture, that God, in HIS mercy, created the blood sacrifice system. Yes, it was for our sin. Because we had rebelled.
 An omniscient (all knowing) GOD knew that we, the human race, would choose sin. So He, in HIS infinite foreknowledge, choose to use himself as the substitute (in the 2nd Person of the Trinity, Jesus), taking our sin, so we didn’t have to bear the weight and full punishment that we deserve.
Jesus wasn’t the innocent victim. No, far from it.
One last point. In Exodus 12, the LORD commanded the children of Israel to kill a lamb on Passover night, eat the meat, and sprinkle the blood on the doorposts of their houses. (Exodus 12:7) “…and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you…” (vs.13). 
The Bible says “… and he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it. And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.” Mark 14:23-24.
This was by God’s design, as Acts 2:23, 1st Peter 1:20, and John 10:18 show.
Hebrews saying that without the shedding of blood, there is no remission for sin. “…and without shedding of blood, there is no remission.” (Hebrews 9:22).
Can you show us the Scripture verses that leads you to your conclusion?
I am not exactly sure what you are asking. Could you summarize your point and restate your question?
It seems to me that I agree with your comment, and yet your question at the end seems to imply that you think I disagree. So somewhere along the way there is some misunderstanding.
I am curious about which scriptures you use to draw the conclusion that it isn’t the wrath of God that requires the propriation for sin. Or am I misunderstanding?
Good question. You are not misunderstanding.
There was a long comment that Iattempted to submit earlier today, but I’d forgot to add my name and e-mail address in the fields that require it.
So, to restate it’s ideas.
I had wrote my earlier reply before seeing your reply to Tony Vance’s question, so that clarified your positison on the issue of God’s planned will vs. His permissive will, which is something I had wondered about.
There are 2 major, but erroneous, viewpoints concerning the Nature of God. One says that God is a cruel, heartless, judge, and in His anger, He punishes the guilty without a chance for mercy. Another paints the picture that God is a “doting Father”, who lavishes love on His children. One who beleives this way could view God, using another way of describing it, as a grandparent who spoils his grandchildren rotten, minimizing the child’s responibility, not properly diciplining them, or not diciplining them at all, and giving the child everything he asks for and thinks of.
The problem with the second view is that, again, God judges the world in righteousness. Going back to Romans 2, those who rebell agains the goodness of God (which leads to repentence: Ch.2:4), will receive a fate that goes agains the “doting father” view. “But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto theyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;” (2:5) Note… it’s mans’ fault that they are judged for their evil, not God’s cruelty that unto them. Also, the day of revelation reveals the righteous judgment of God… that’s the same topic we see dicussed in Psalms 9:8.
And for the saved, he “…whom the Lord loveth he chaseneth…” (Hebrews 12:6).
With all that in view, a proper view of the Nature of God balances the Justice and Mercy, the Wrath, and the Love of God.
Bringing these3 views of the Nature of God back to the subject of this blogpost, it appears that those of us who replied could catagorize your statements about plan of God, the statments about the blood sacrifice, and thus, your theological view, as being not “straight up and down” & balanced, but leaning towards the “doting father” catagory.
But, if you agree with my previous post, then that reveals that you believe in the “balanced” view, which is Scriptually supported.
“And his way of giving life is to overthrow the religion of scapegoating and sacrifice.” could raise some feathers in a way that makes it look like you’re demeaning the importance of the sacrifice, since God ordained the sacrificial system, (that dealt with lambs, rams, and bullocks). I realize that if the events of the Fall, as recorded in Genesis 3, never happened, then everything would literally be perfect. There would be no need for any sacrificial system.
If you meant with that statment, the man made sacrifical system of blaming others for our own sin, then yes, that makes sense. I alone am to blame for my own choices, thoughts and actions, that were in God’s view, sin. The way