 the amount of money he wanted in the deal. He gutted his future teams assets and put them out of the CP3 sweepstakes. Now NY has to hope CP3 is still a FA next year or make a push for DWILL or Nash. But Nash on their team just screams the 07 and 08 suns and they never even made It to the finals. NY might just settle on Melo and Amare and add role players (like chandler) and hope they build chemistry.
Not only did he ruin the chances, he ruined the whole entire Knicks squad. They had so many solid people playing that they could have been deadly this year with Anthony. You guys don't even have the pieces to trade for CP3 now. I used to watch Danilo, Felton, Wilson Chandler, Mosgov, etc and that was a great team when Stoudemire showed up.
Knicks fans aren't even stressin' about CP3 anymore. We got a squad.
The funny thing is everybody was screaming how none of those players we traded away were worth anything.... who cares now, we have the center we need which will be more impactfull i believe than acquiring chris paul and really leaving us with nothing.
I don't know about that, but we'll definitely be in the convo come playoff time. Which for most Knicks fans is a blessing after what we've been through.
As much as I like our current team, there is no denying the possibilities we would have available had Carmelo signed as a free agent.
Thank you for pointing out what we've all known for the past ten months.
The Nuggets were not gonna let Melo walk away with nothing in return so end of discussion.
Yes. It should be common knowledge that he did. Had he have waited, NY could have signed him and would have had enough assets to move for CP3. They also might have been able to take on Okafor's contract, which would have given them the defensive/rebounding C they need (I'd have to do some research before I claim that w/ certainty though).
no. chandler was a great addition. that team needs D not scoring.
if everyone knew what was gonna happen on this lockout, cba, cap limit etc., then he would have waited it out too isnt it?
and who wants to play with scrubs when you can play on that same team while having good players around you?
obviously thats not the case, no one knew what the cap limit will be and what agreement will be agreed upon once the lockout is over.
its just that he and the knicks didnt wanna gamble and made sure that melo will be a knick.
personally i liked the pre-Melo knicks team. but i dont blame them.
did the knicks gave up too much to denver? YES.
but they saw a rare chance of securing a Star player on his prime with the knicks so they grabbed that rare opportunity.
Ridiculous thread, no Melo meant no cp3. The knicks don't need an all star at every position, the last time i checkecked every team that has ever won a championship has a weakness at one position. So please Knick haters stop worying about us and worry about your own team, without cp3 we are a top 3 team in the east and yet and still you want more.
This again? How many times did people break down that we would have had to get rid of Chandler, Mozgov, Bill Walker, Turiaf and AR to clear up the room to sign him outright?
If you get past that...how many of "those great young players" we sent to Denver are even on Denver's roster right now? Felton warmed their bench and got traded. Chandler is in China and was gonna be an RFA anyway. Mozgov didn't ever take off the warm ups. Our pre-trade team was.500. Let it go...the knicks are much better w/o CP3 or waiting for Melo.
He should've planned it better like LeBron, Wade, and Bosh had with the Heat back in 2008.
Jesus Christ....MELO DID NOT WANT TO ENTIRE FREE AGENCY WITH A LOCKOUT. It's that simple and we are much better without Paul right now.
I'm sure any trades we made for Paul would be rejected by the league. So, this is another "did the knicks ruin the knicks?" thread.
But not getting Carmelo woud ruin NY's chances of getting Carmelo.
the blame is not solely on melo. stat needs to bear some of it as well.
Frankly I'm gonna speak on behalf of my fellow knickerbockers and tell you guys in the NBA forum that we don't care anymore! We have a team that's being put together right now that's looking very formidable. I for one wanted Paul but I didn't know we would have a chance at Chandler and other pieces. I pray for everyone's team after Melon, Amare, and Chandler get acostomed to one another. That ish is scary! We good right now, you guys can stay in the Chris Paul sweepstakes all you want. Any team that trades for him is gonna loose a major piece and salary flexibility for the future.
We don't need chris paul. Knicks have been beating him for three straight years. I think we swept the hornets when we were *****.
He had to make his move when he did because he "prioritized winning". lol.
The Knicks should be happy with who they have. Their franchise as a whole has completely 360'd over the past season and now they're a legitamite playoff team off the bat. Amare and Melo should be untouchable. They're the cornerstone and the best thing that's happened to this team in a long time. With Chandler and even Bibby, and possibly more moves still to be made, you have to think very optimistically about them.
Don't think I'm a knick hater because I like most Knick's fans think the team they have now is very very good, but yes I think Stern would. Knicks are his fave team ;).
Yea he should of just signed as a fee agent.
if Carmelo hadn't been traded to the Knicks, the Nuggets would have ended up trading him to the Nets for their package. he wouldn't have reached free agency.
Knick fans already said this many times and its true... If there wasnt a lockout there would be a good chance he would of waited. For an nba player to be a free agent at time was probably a little scary for them because it looked lke there was no season. So why risk that.
Also the nuggets werent gonna just let him walk anyway without anything.
I also find it funny that the pieces that the knicks traded are like these good young players. And that they gave too much. When they were on the knicks they were scrubs to u guys. I always said from day 1 when lebron was a free agent knicks with that team would of been best suited for him.
You would think Paul got traded already. Reason why this thread is pointless is as it stands, the league is wants more than what Denver got from Melo on top of the fact we would have not been able to resign some of the trade chips just to sign Melo.
Right now it works out better for us to not have a season of trade rumors and the effects it has on the players involved. We can focus on winning and winning now!
Better to ask a question like this if/when he gets traded to see what was given up for him.
This, and frankly that would've been a devastating blow to the Knicks franchise. The trade had to happen, period, and I'm happy it did.
They can still get Deron can they?
I'm gona say it again Melo would've been a NET if the trade didn't happen. /thread.
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