 8) i'll try take some pics if i can and bout the skyride, will they stop the skyride from going over that area till construction's finished or is that over-reacting as it wud be unused for almost a year! lol!
Don't think so, you could see the air construction site (sw5) from the monorail!
I wonder if the construction will cause the closure of the skyride at any point - obviously not of choice, but being forced to due to moving track etc onto the site. I remember that the monorail was closed for airs construction at some points.
Doubt there will be any problems though, unless the nature of the "worlds first" is such that it is moved into place in one piece.Is it about time for a three challenge rule? Allowing managers to challenge such poor penalty awards?
Man U have won the league, City are second and the London clubs are in a scrap for the 2 Champions league spaces.
Did the linesman really give a corner which wasn’t, leading to a penalty which wasn’t and a clear offside for the third goal to kill the game which wasn’t given.
So the lino could see a tug of the shirt (IMO both players had hold of each other and the Arsenal player did not have control of the ball, so not a scoring chance) from 50 yards yet he could see that no City player touched the ball leading to the corner from which the penalty was awarded and even after that the offside was right under his nose.
Sorry but clearly guidelines set to ensure the small teams are made to sweat and the big teams protected or a guy who should not be allowed anywhere near a football pitch again.
What should happen next, well surely a complaint by City to ensure this Linesman gets further training in the rules of the game and suspended from future matches.
Funny how this game worth millions is effected by such individuals. Surely a three review process must be looked at by the authorities so that managers can challenge such penalty awards and clear offside. The game is worth far too much to let these little people influence the game at this level.
Whilst I see what you''re saying, what happens next then?Replay the game? Stop the game whilst the manager discusses it with the ref?
Well morty, it works well in cricket for years in American football and it''s also used in Rugby to confirm the correct choices.
The manager should be given three challenges during the game to challenge the ref.
It would not take up much more time and would be a fair process to review the bad refereeing.
[/quote]Again, I''m seeing what you''re saying, but I''m not entirely convinced.Yeah, it has worked well in rugby, and having the ref use a mike has also.But if its an obvious answer, why hasn''t it been implemented yet?
Because football doesn''t have natural pauses.
[quote user="Ches right hand man "]Because football doesn''t have natural pauses. [/quote]You may have hit the nail on the head there actually.
Exactly - impossible to compare football to cricket or American football and to a lesser extent rugby. All are incredibily disjointed games with a pause every minute or so; football flows (which is why many love it).
When would the manager call the challenge? When would it be reviewed? Who reviews it? Some decisions need viewing from several different angles and how many times have we seen the situation when even after seeing it 50 times from every imaginable angle a consensus still cannot be agreed.
Also, might this not favour the richer teams who can afford to have cameras everywhere, watching everything? What happens in the FA Cup when Man U play Bury and they can only afford one camera man (and that is some guy on his iPhone)?
[quote user="Ches right hand man "]Because football doesn''t have natural pauses. [/quote]^^ This.As much as it sucked being on the receiving end of refereeing incompetence on Saturday, I''d hate any sort of challenge system / video review system in football. It works well in Cricket, tennis & American Football because it can integrate into the game without really affecting the flow of it. This would not be the case in football.
So your telling me that between the penalty award and the taking of that penalty there was not an natural break in play? It was about three minutes where the fourth official could have looked at the monitor and clearly turned over the penalty award.
Football has natural breaks all through it, they only actually play about 65 minutes of the 90, the reast is made up of breaks!
I must be watching a different game to you guys.
[quote user="Ches right hand man "]Because football doesn''t have natural pauses. [/quote]There was a pause between the ball going out of play and the corner kick being taken.There was a lengthy pause between the award of the penalty and the taking of the kick.There was a pause between the award of the free kick for handball in the area against Sunderland.There was a pause between Barnett bringing the Stoke player down 3 yards outside the box and the penalty being taken.There was plenty of time between the foul on our player and the Walcott offside for a review request to be made before the ball was in the net. Fact is if play is stopped for any type of foul there will be a pause, the more controversial or incorrect the refs decision the more lengthy this pause seems to be.Poor reffing has cost us approx 10 points this season, at £800k per place that''s a lot of money, same goes for last year we had some shocking decisions against us which ultimately cost us millions of pounds.
[/quote]But that is if a penalty is awarded. What about if the contentious decision is the other way? i.e. A penalty not given, but an opposing manager thinks there should be. There is no 3 minuite break in play for this scenario. Or an offside not given. Or a free kick not given.What then? Do we wait until the ball goes out for a throw in for a natural break to review a decision?
All the training in the world won''t make a scrap of difference if you are fundamentally bent.
Because they want to keep living in a secret, corrupt game where linesmen take great care to cover their mouths so no-one can see what they are saying. The cretin West is the perfect example of all that is wrong with today''s officials. He has the perfect accomplice in Jones, a week as water referee whose only interest is protecting his marks by keeping on the right side of high-profile managers like Wenger. Just ask WBA for their opinion of him and his bent sidekick.
Doesn''t matter how long it takes to review a decision - the issue is a football game can quite easily go 4 - 5 mins without the ball going out of play. When is the decision reviewed? And do you pull the game back 5 mins if the incorrect decision was made? What happens if after a challenge to a decision is made there isn''t another break until full time? Do you start keep the players on the pitch and start again from when the offence happened?
Stoppages in rugby come every 30 seconds or so - and the clock is stopped when the ball isn''t in play; completely different from football.
Let''s break this down to where a challenge should and could be made.
Offside, after a goal is scored, as per no ball in cricket and offside in Rugby a standard quick review by the officials.
Penalty award, review after.
Red card or serious fould play (as per Ageuro this weekend cup seni, disguasting little ****).
If a penalty is not awarded or goal dissalowed for offside then there should be a challenge allwoed by the Manager! just the three per game. It would not take up much time nor would it be every two minutes because it would be upto the manager to use them wisely.
I just don''t buy into this Even it''self out over the season, it doens''t matter over the seaosn but does matter over each game and points lost causing relegations and the loss of 45 million pounds on a p**s poor or biase ref!
takes no longer than 30 seconds to look at a television replay[/quote]But you''re missing a whole piece of the story here.Video review is only used in Rugby for if a try has been scored or not. It has been very successful for this, as there is a natural stop in play at this time.Video review is not used in rugby for penalties and decisions any other time in play. If this were the case, you would find it wouldn''t be as well received in that game.Is there a natural break in play when a goal may or may not have been scored in football? The answer is not always, no.I''d also argue the "it takes no more than 30 seconds to review a decision" in football. How many replays do Goals on Sunday take at incidents, only to have the panel split on the decision?
FWIW this years penalty net gain top two are Chelsea 9 for 1 against and Man Utd 5 for none against. No surprises there then.....
Absolute Rubbish, The 3 challenge system would work perfectly well in a game of football. There are plenty of pauses and most major incidents take approx 3-4 mins to sort out while players Push/Shove/Fake injury etc... and most surround a referee!! There is one simple reason that it will not be implemented and that is " The