 get your blog’s publicity through such talks? You’re sitting there behind that screen of yours, setting harsh comments here and there on someone that you don’t even know. Is that how you think your blog becomes a successful one? Through setting harsh comments on people you don’t even know or making a subject seem awful than it really is? Or is this how you make money? This is very sad, really.
Every magazine out there including bazaar (the magazine ur all giving high credits to) get their main contents like biographies, gossip, technologies etc, etc, from the internet. Do you really think that you can come up with a celebrities biography from that head of urs!? It is ok to surf the net to get such information. That is what every magazine does people! So much of making Studentalk talk of the day, month, year, whatever!
Dima is a very professional worker. She had been so all this time she had been working there and whether you believe it or not,.
Please tell me if any of you had the courage to say no to your boss when asked to do something u thought was unappropriate to do. For those of you that don’t know, it was only in this November issue when plagiarism had taken place. It was not there before when dima used to work there. I repeat, Dima had left the magazine way before the November issue but they still issued it in her name since they had noone else to fill her space. So how on earth are you attacking her!
Ps: Most magazines here in Kuwait are copyrighted either from dubai or lebanon, or jordan etc. They obviously follow the same contents as the ones abroad. As about studentalk, it had started off in Kuwait and dubai has the copyrights!
Chill!
Ladies (move)
Gentlemen (move)
Somebody ring the alarm
A fire on the roof
Ring the alarm (and I’m throwin’ elbows)
I just wanted to join the fun.
actually, this reminds me of another song:
too legit! too legit to quit! HEY HEEEEEYYYYYYYYY
I solemnly swear that I the11thmuse/sixthelement did not mean to plagiarise the lyrics.
I was type-singing for entertainment purposes only.
Comment #1: courtesy of Christina Aguillera, purgatory, and Kay-ma-dah-lin
Comment#2: courtesy of the one and only MC Hammer.
gracias
No Mercy: “Please tell me if any of you had the courage to say no to your boss when asked to do something u thought was unappropriate to do.” –> I think it’s outrageous that you (or anyone else) is too afraid to say no to your boss when asked to do something you find INappropriate (not UNappropriate) - especially when it’s something as unethical (and illegal) as plagiarism. If someone is too timid or scared to stand up to their boss when it’s their own reputation on the line, then that person has no right to complain when they are then forced to deal with the consequences (as in the case with Dima here).
Having said all that, I’m sure it’s been difficult for Dima to be on the receiving end of all this criticism - some of which has been constructive, and some of which has been personal. But when you put yourself in the public eye, as a “journalist” (I’m using that term very loosely here), you leave yourself open to this kind of scrutiny. I think it’s important that K raised this issue here and opened the floor for this kind of debate, because it brings up a very serious issue plaguing the media industry in Kuwait, and it is one that needs to be addressed if any of us want to see our media (be they in print, broadcast, or advertising) move forward collectively on a more successful path. Some media outlets in Kuwait do a great job, and are on the right path. Others, obviously, have a lot of catching up to do, and maybe this whole discussion can serve as a wake-up call for them.
I think the point several people mentioned above regarding the poor message and impression the magazine is giving to their target audience, Kuwait’s students, is an important one. This includes both the plagiarism issue, as well as the lack of proper writing skills. It would behoove the magazine’s “writers” (I’m sorry, I just can’t write that word in this context without quotation marks), editor, and publisher to listen to what people here have had to say.
P.S. Erzulie: That was exactly the same part that I got hung up on too!
No Mercy,
you dont deserve this nickname because with a comment like that, you are giving one of the world’s greatest games a bad name!
ok…that was lame. But someone had to do it!
No Mercy was probably paid by Student talk and Dima for that comment hahahahah
his nick is plagiarized a9lan!
no mercy:
that is the poorest excuse for a defense i have ever heard. OH, and by the way,i just checked the september and october student talk and dima was doin the same BS. so stop defending her and this will all end sooner. And about ur nasty comment about blogging,what u dont realise is that al over the world,blogging has taken over as the best way to ‘out’ news that traditional media might not have the balls or the time to cover (probably cuz of advertising reasons). So pick ur fights carefully and try to realise that we are not picking on her specifically,but on anyone that trys to defend theselves by blaming their boss, or by saying ‘they were just trying to make the magazine interesting’.
if dima and zina had just apologised or just let it go we could have moved on to more interesting topics like how to feed monkeys at the zoo,BUT they had to try to defend their crappy methods,and their crappy magazine which reflect their crappy ethics.
i have an idea for a topic for their mag next month : do you think plagarism is ok?
I think the person didn’t read the post because everything he said was explained in the post on how the faculty of student talk and him (no mercy) are wrong. If only more people could read, how the world would be a safer place.
“I pity the fool”- Mr.T
No Mercy:
“Do you really think that you can come up with a celebrities biography from that head of urs!? It is ok to surf the net to get such information.”
Of course it’s ok to surf the net to get the information. After all, that’s what the internet is there for (although we’re taught at a VERY early age that in some cases it’s unlreliable). What is NOT ok is to copy whatever is on the internet vebatim (word-for-word) and not give credit (or, in some cases, money) to the author. That is a violation of a person’s copy right, and in many countries would mean a lawsuit. The fact that it may or may not mean that in Kuwait STILL does not make it ok. The point here is simple: if you can’t do the job, admit it and find someone who can. Copying and pasting cheats your readers, your advertisers and those who wrote the original piece. Moreover, just because “every magazine out there… gets their main contents… from the internet” does not make it permissible to do so.
“Please tell me if any of you had the courage to say no to your boss when asked to do something u thought was unappropriate to do.”
I’d have to say I’m with Kleio on this one (whose writing is pleasingly eloquent). When you are a journalist and your professional reputation depends on your credibility, then you should have every right to say no to your boss. In fact, WHENEVER you are asked to do something inappropriate, you should have the right to say no. This applies to many aspects of life, but is particularly true of the professional world. Losing your job because of your refusal to compromise your ethics is infinitely better than ruining your reputation and - in countries where these things actually matter - risking not getting a job ever again.
I’m neither attacking Dima personally nor defending Bazaar (which I think isn’t really that much better). Rather, the point here - and of the post - was twofold: a) to show magazines like Student-Talk that they can’t plagiarize and not expect their readers to eventually find out about it (and react to it); and b) to point to the increasingly deteriorating standards of journalism in our country. Thank God that we have students who are actually going abroad to study the craft (I did at one point), many of whom will hopefully return and bring the high standards of their institutions of study back home with them.
Sorry to take up so much time and space! Keep reading K’s blog - he’s one of the best out there - and if you write or blog, “write” on! Ok that last part was cheesy, but you get the idea.
boss: how can u even compare bazaar to student talk. Bazaar is a genuine magazine full of interesting articles and ads and is considered one of the best quality magazines in the gulf region.The fact that it is free and of that quality says enough.i know so many foreigners here who swear by it for the