19th century to work in the copper mines happened to be Irish. There was also a significant Chinese population, but the Irish won out in lasting power. I have family in Montana and have been to Butte many times; historically speaking, it's a fascinating place full of beautiful old buildings, many of which are unfortunately in dire straits. I'd love to see it revitalized, but who knows if that will ever happen.
Teddy Kennedy and Tip O’Neil made sure the Irish were give preferential immigration treatment.
American here who was raised by a father who was raised Catholic but was never a practicing Catholic in his adult life and a mother who was raised Congregational (Protestant) but has never been religious, so I never grew up with any religion. In New England, religion isn't all that important and it's considered kind of tacky to discuss religious beliefs in mixed company.
I never realized how batshit religious the US really was until I was an adult and traveled extensively throughout the South and the Midwest, I lived in Virginia for a year and North Carolina for two years. When I was in conversation with people and they started talking about God and Jesus I was really taken aback, that is practically unheard of in the Northeast. And they would come right out and ask me what religion I was, another taboo topic where I'm from. When I told them I'm not religious at all and wasn't raised with any religion either, they were shocked and from then on treated me differently.
My experiences with Southerners and Midwesterners really opened my eyes to how there really are two different Americas.
I should've said that my experiences all happened in the 2000s and 2010s so it was all very recent. I know that with this being DL, it often could mean that it happened many, many years ago but that's not the case with me, just to clarify.
I interviewed just outside Salt Lake City once, I had lunch with a group that had hired in from other states and were not Mormon. They said that the Mormons were really nice at first, but that changes when it become clear that you are not converting.
Everybody is more comfortable within their own clan, whatever that is. Since I was a teenage, I’ve lived in Gayborhoods and can’t imagine it otherwise.
Oh, that company outside SLC made rockets and/or rocket fuel, and blew up a few years later.
I went to tour the SLC Mormon temple. The guide says they were just closing. Then she grabbed me by my coat and said she would run through the place with me, pointing stuff out. I though that was very nice.
My Mom was a devout Catholic, but impressed upon us the immorality of being anti-semetic. I never heard a racist or bigoted word in my family. I was really lucky.
R274 The truth of that statement is that it was unfortunately the question asked before getting a bullet in the head in Northern Ireland.  You were for life what you were born into agree, disagree or vehemently reject all you will.
God, you could grow to love, it, God-fearing, God- chosen purist little puritan that, for all your wiles and smiles, you are (the dank churches, the empty streets, the shipyard silence, the tied-up swings) and shelter your cold heart from the heat of the world, from woman-inquisition, from the bright eyes of children. Yes, you could wear black, drink water, nourish a fierce zeal with locusts and wild honey, and not feel called upon to understand and forgive but only to speak with a bleak afflatus, and love the January rains when they darken the dark doors and sink hard into the Antrim hills, the bog meadows, the heaped graves of your fathers. Bury that red bandana and stick, that banjo this is your country, close one eye and be king.  God, you could do it, God help you, stand on a corner stiff with rhetoric, promising nothing under the sun.
I always liked that Irish poetry brings violence into the domestic sphere. It's dark but it's real and it hits hard.
I bury beside him Three teenage soldiers, bellies full of Bullets and Irish beer, their flies undone. A packet of Woodbines I throw in, A lucifer, the Sacred Heart of Jesus Paralysed as heavy guns put out The night-light in a nursery for ever; Also a bus-conductor’s uniform – He collapsed beside his carpet-slippers Without a murmur, shot through the head By a shivering boy who wandered in Before they could turn the television down Or tidy away the supper dishes. To the children, to a bewildered wife, I think ‘Sorry Missus’ was what he said.
When they massacred the ten linen workers There fell on the road beside them spectacles, Wallets, small change, and a set of dentures: Blood, food particles, the bread, the wine.
Before I can bury my father once again I must polish the spectacles, balance them Upon his nose, fill his pockets with money And into his dead mouth slip the set of teeth.
Kamala is in a pretty good position to become the first female person of color, to become President.
R260, consider the countries most Irish emigrants went to: Great Britain (primarily England, which has always had a large Irish population) and the US.
It’s not hard to see, then, that Irish Catholics came to have an outsize influence on Catholicism in the English-speaking world. For much of the 19th century Catholic = Irish in the minds of most Protestant British and American people. In America, the association of Irish with priest (and cop – funny how that works) was a famous stereotype through much of the 20th century.
Also, for many years, the Irish-dominated American Catholic Church was a cash cow for Rome.
I’m not sure the influence you talk about extends beyond the Anglosphere. There has never been an Irish Pope, for example, nor even an English-speaking Pope.
12th century Pope Adrian IV was an Englishman from Hertfordshire.
[quote]There has never been an Irish Pope, for example, nor even an English-speaking Pope.
Likely never will be. The American Church, especially, is in such disarray that the rest of the Catholic world pities them.
This is purely anecdotal but living in the US all my life over the past 50 years I dont actually know a single Catholic person I grew up with that still goes to church except for weddings and funerals. And even that is changing. Their kids who are all of marring age are all opting to have the ceremony outside of the church in a natural setting without the religious hoopla surrounding them. It's basically fading into the background of secularism.
I really don't understand how all those Evangelicals have seemed to go the other way forcing religious judges down our throats and putting up with outrageous a lying, thieving, selfish, narcissist in the White House just to get their bible thumping way. They seem to have gotten more extreme over the years.Big News for 5 Seconds of Summer Fans!Revell
1/32 Panavia
Tornado GR.1
By Michael Benolkin
Background
In 1965, the British Aerospace TSR.2 strike aircraft was cancelled, due to cost overruns and other difficulties. Designed to replace the Canberra, the TSR.2 mission still needed to be filled. For a short time, the British MoD considered a variant of the General Dynamics F-111, but that contract would also be abruptly cancelled. In the meantime, Germany and Italy were also facing upcoming voids in their strike capabilities.
After a number of successful meetings, the Tornado concept was born.
Built by the multi-national Panavia company, the Tornado was designed as a variable geometry fighter that can penetrate into hostile airspace at supersonic speeds as well as operate from short, ad-hoc runways. The Tornado would be one of the only operational fighters to feature thrust reversers that can automatically deploy on touchdown and significantly reduce landing roll with minimal wear on the brakes and no need for a drogue chute. The aircraft also featured a two-place cockpit, recognizing that the workload in flying, navigating, and operating the aircraft's advanced systems was more than one person can effectively manage.
The movable wings are mounted high on the fuselage, giving ample ground clearance for external underwing stores. The wing is designed to pivot the four underwing pylons to compensate for sweep. That takes a significant amount of strength and engineering to suspend a pylon and external stores on a single pivot!
The Tornado was developed in a number of variants, a strike/reconnaissance version for the RAF, a similar version for the Luftwaffe and Italian Air Force, a maritime strike aircraft for the German Navy, a Wild Weasel (ECR) version for the Luftwaffe, and an Air Defense Fighter (ADF) version for the RAF. To date, the only export customer for the Tornado outside the tri-national team is Saudi Arabia, operating both strike and ADF versions.
The Tornado fired its first shots in anger during Operation Desert Storm. Some initial losses were due to getting too close to Iraqi air defenses while using the JP runway denial system. Nevertheless, the Tornado operated as well, if not better than hoped. The RAF realized that the Tornado needed the ability to deliver laser-guided munitions, and procurement was underway for the TIALD system. TIAL