 “again.” Those are the remarks you regard as “small and petty.”
What was that again about not liking the “cult” comparison?
Hadn’t really thought a great deal about how a lefty like me could have such affinity for Sen. McCain and his family until listening to Megan McCain eulogize her father. When the Navy whisked my teenaged Dad out of high school at the beginning of WW II to prep school, university, medical school, Korea, and eventually home, it led to him, me and my siblings gathering round my mother playing piano to sing all the parts and verses of Travelers together as that’s who we were, who we remain, a sort of US Navy auxiliary. I always wanted to fly like John McCain, not practice medicine like my father, but never did either; I did become a patriot like both of them, and share a disgust of Donald John Trump, who should resign and crawl under a rock someplace, perhaps at one of his golf courses.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels”
……….Samuel Johnson
And also Republicans.
As Paul Krugman (among many others) has pointed out, since the 1960’sthe Republican party has been about acquiring power, not governing.
Republican voters have become fixated on maintaining the social order. That is, the dominance of the white upper classes (as Garrison Keillor has pointed out, they all thing that they’re above average).
As long as Trump puts ‘the others’ down and keeps them down, he’ll keep his hard core voters.
Hopefully, those opposed to him and his ilk will get out and vote this time.
I think McCain’s family had the right to say anything they wanted to say at his funeral; they certianly didn’t say anything McCain himself wouldn’t have said.
In fact, let me say for the record, that there isn’t anything anyone can say at any time, or in any place that would surprise me; after all it’s the current year.
However I’m at a loss to understand the nasty disrespect he and his family showed to Sarah Palin. Like her or hate her, she was a loyal 2nd Lieutenant to McCain. Snubbing her was an obvious fit of pique, and pretty trashy.
Palin was thrown on the ticket for political expedience. By all accounts, McCain was never enamored with her and their political partnership ended the day he gave his concession speech. Considering the vitriol that Trump and his supporters (which Palin considers herself) have shown McCain, his family showed nothing but class throughout this ordeal.
I find it fascinating that Trump is lauded for his vulgarity and “tell it like it is” persona but his supporters recoil and whine about shoddy treatment when that same standard is mirrored back.
Warfare and service to the country are issues most of us don’t think about much because so few Americans (including at least a few who aren’t even citizens!) are involved. It’s one of the (presumably) unintended consequences of eliminating the military draft. Most of us don’t think about warfare or national service because very few of us have taken up arms in defense of the country, or in some other way served the country, nor will many of us even know someone else who has done so. I suspect people who have loved ones in the military are far more attuned to these kinds of things than are most citizens, and even in that context, perhaps because the numbers involved are so small compared to our population, it’s pretty easy for those in the military to simply become another special interest group, lobbying Congress for more money.
I usually disagreed with John McCain, but I always listened to what he had to say, especially on matters of war and peace, because he had actually walked the walk – painful though it surely was as he and his injuries aged – and generally avoided pontificating unnecessarily. Most of the flag-waving rhetoric comes from people who’ve never been in combat. Those who have are not often eager to see more people killed without very good reason.
Huh? John McCain was an avid war monger if nothing else. Can you name me any intervention since Vietnam that he was against?
The is the man who sang “bomb Iran”, was apoplectic that Obama didn’t put boots on the ground in Syria.
If I were still in the Marines, or if my kids were in uniform, I would be very happy that McCain is no longer in the Senate advocating for more foreign interventions.
We should have mandatory service again, certainly not exclusively a military draft, but no one questioned the draft until we made fundamental errors during the Cold War, including Vietnam. Whether it is a year or two of grunt work or that for which we have passion and the ability to do, it could end this schism we have lived with since the Vietnam War, a schism that hardly mattered to John McCain.
Though McCain was on the other side from many of us, unlike those in the majority of his party, war monger or not, he could and would sit and talk about issues with political opponents and perhaps even reach consensus on what to do; that is how a guvmit with a two party system works, but that path died with McCain.
McCain’s party remains the real roadblock to our liberty. Republicans led by Donald John Trump have brought us down so far, so fast, that we need to sweep them all out in November to preserve it. MAGA: vote for a Democrat and prod them all to do what is necessary to return us to “liberty and justice for all.”
Some folks leave a better message in death than others in life. From this vantage point we have Maximus Decimus Meridius (McCain) and Commodus as (Trump). McCain was honored and buried as a soldier of America. Trump, that finale is yet to be written. But it appears the “Trumpies” really like the gladiator games, each day someone, some country, is thrown in the arena! Ironic wouldn’t you think on the similarities?
“The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end… “Highness””
We’ll finally see if Trump can get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue in NYC. He tried to outshoot a dying war hero with brain cancer — much to his tribe members’ cheers — but the fellow got justice at his own funeral like it was an old Frank Capra movie. This must have been the tipping point for at least a few of those people.
In 2000 the GOP Race was decided in South Carolina by a whisper campaign alleging McCain fathered an illegitimate child with a woman of color. If McCain had gotten the GOP nomination, it’s likely he would’ve won the Presidency. What a different world we would be living in now.
Just how would the world be different? Would Iraq have been spared in favor of invading Iran? Or been would it have been Syria? Quite possibly it would have been both, because it’s difficult to imagine 4 or especially 8 years of a McCain White House without an invasion or tow somewhere.
“Bomb bomb bomb…”Not being a registered Republican or a registered Democrat, I wonder if any of us registered citizens who are interested in the people, not the party, care about what's going on in Washington?
We had eight years of Nixon, two years of Ford, four years of Carter, eight years of Reagan and four years of Bush. Did the expression "health care for all" come up?
No. Now that we have a likable hayseed in office, who promised national heath care, all of a sudden all these characters are shouting for their version of a health care bill. Most of them have been in Washington the last 24 years. Where have they been on this issue? Nowhere. They couldn't care less, as long as we sucker citizens pay for their medical bills.
It's time to bring in new crooks to Washington. Maybe the little guy would get a break.
LESTER KALISH
Boca RatonYeah, I don't need to be disrespectful, I don't judge people by any means. 

 Her fans calling people insecure, cucks, afraid of women, etc etc. and it's usually directed at the people calling her a man but they go after the people that are just pointing out the obvious in a not so mean way too..

If women's division had been around as long as the men, I am sure a lot more of them would be just as big but as it is, her division isn't even entertaining. Bringing 135'ers up with ten extra lbs of fat isn't the answer by any means. I'm not sure what they could do but this isn't it.

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