) | about 5 months ago | (#46828949)ing stock price. So they stopped doing that. We need Mr. Moneybags to come in and rescue us, but the telecom and cable companies are making that as hard as possible. Which is rational, but it makes me hate them even more.
Re:Wrong battle. (2)
n8_f (85799) | about 5 months ago | (#46829105):Wrong battle. (5, Insightful)
n8_f (85799) | about 5 months ago | (#46829005). (1)
Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | about 5 months ago | (#46829101) own (and affiliates') carried-by-ISPs services an advantage, or artificially DISadvatntge packets of other providers unless an extra toll is paid, to the disadvantage of their customers.
The FCC is not the place to fight that battle. The correct venues are the Department of Justice's Antitrust division (is giving content the ISP's affiliate provides an advantage over that of others an illegal "tying"?), the FTC (is penalizing others' packets a consumer fraud, providing something less than what is understood to be "internet service"?) and perhaps congress.
I don't see how this can reasonably be resolved short of breaking up media conglomerates to separate information transport from providing "content" and other information service beyond information transport. Allowing them to be combined into a single company is a recipie for conflict-of-interest, at the cost of the consumer.
Re: Wrong battle. (1)
Scowler (667000) | about 5 months ago | (#46829165)
All Traffic is Equal (1)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828761)
Though, some traffic is more equal than others.
I guess some checks cleared today
The F.C.C. shouldn't be the ones to decide (2)
Dega704 (1454673) | about 5 months ago | (#46828769)
The best government that Comcast can buy (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828775)
I guess they finally hit the government's price point.
Hooray for... (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828779)
getting to pay more for the same shit I have already accessing. I look forward to paying double for netflix, triple for hulu and out the ass for porn. YAY!
End of the Internet as we Know It (4, Insightful)
cosm (1072588) | about 5 months ago | (#46828803)).
Comcast says the routers cost too much (1)
state*less (246807) | about 5 months ago | (#46828819) in the case of phone companies, their are alternatives to Apple.
Re:Comcast says the routers cost too much (1)
n8_f (85799) | about 5 months ago | (#46829167)%).
Stop complaining and do something about it (5, Informative)
synthesizerpatel (1210598) | about 5 months ago | (#46828835)
The FCC has an open issue for this, 14-28 Protecting and Promoting the Open Internet
You can see existing comments here:... [fcc.gov]
You can add your two cents here:... [fcc.gov]
it would be OK if..... (1)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828837)
and it's a big huge giant if....
internet providers were prohibited by law from degrading connections between their customers and content providers (aka web sites and services) that do not pay the extra.
in other words, net neutrality would remain, but content providers could pay to BOOST the speed at which the internet provider customers received their content (example: subscriber with 5mbit connection could download from youtube at 20mbit IF youtube paid for the **extra** speed, but that customer would still get unmolested 5mbit throughput if google did not pay).
Re:it would be OK if..... (2)
Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | about 5 months ago | (#46829135)..... (2)
Scowler (667000) | about 5 months ago | (#46829217)
so... (5, Insightful)
deander2 (26173) | about 5 months ago | (#46828867)..."
It can be changed in the longrun, but meanwhile... (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828881)
...a country gets a government it deserves.
Multiple peering (2)
Knightman (142928) | about 5 months ago | (#46828889) (5, Interesting)
Bob9113 (14996) | about 5 months ago | (#46828927)
Only one reasonable response: Drop all your paid over-the-interent content subscriptions, and start pirating everything. Burn the media industry to the ground.
Re:Drop Netflix, Pirate Everything (1, Insightful)
preaction (1526109) | about 5 months ago | (#46829017)
Clark from Popehat agrees:... [popehat.com]
Even better... (1)
Atmchicago (555403) | about 5 months ago | (#46829031)
Re:Drop Netflix, Pirate Everything (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46829079)
Better yet, include the ISPs as co-defendants on every trial involving anything piped over their lines. Child porn, liability and defamation lawsuits, organized crime, etc. etc.
Also, sue them for use of your property without appropriate compensation.
If they want to be able to regulate their lines as their own, treat them that way.
*That's* what pisses me off about this--it's not just about net neutrality as a freedom-of-speech issue, it's about the rich (once again) being held to a different standard than everyone else.
Re:Drop Netflix, Pirate Everything (1)
Burz (138833) | about 5 months ago | (#46829097) (1)
Scowler (667000) | about 5 months ago | (#46829237)
Wrong target (1)
Fwipp (1473271) | about 5 months ago | (#46829245)
Netflix isn't the bad guy here.
Monopoly Rights Are Wrong (2)
TrollstonButterbeans (2914995) | about 5 months ago | (#46828931):Monopoly Rights Are Wrong (1)
n8_f (85799) | about 5 months ago | (#46829161)
How is this different (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828943)
How is letting an ISP provide a "fast lane" if a content provider is willing to pay for it any different from letting an ISP provide a "slow lane" to any content provider NOT willing to pay additionally?
To ask more bluntly, it seems like these new rules might open the floodgate for extortion.
Re:How is this different (1)
mythosaz (572040) | about 5 months ago | (#46829007)
It's like having a VISA sticker in your window, and not being allowed to charge more for credit transactions.
See? That's totally fair and within both the letter and spirit of the law..
..or something. :/
Here that sound? (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46828961)
That's the rest of the world wishing the united states would implode on itself already, without fucking up the rest of the world.
Oh the irony (2)
TsuruchiBrian (2731979) | about 5 months ago | (#46829027) (4, Insightful)
EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | about 5 months ago | (#46829061).
Hybrid lanes (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46829153)
Can you imagine if some company bought all the highways in your area and then started charging higher fees in order to go in the passing lane but then started really gouging all the food deliveries to certain grocery stores?
Kind of like the multiple occupancy lanes allow hybrids, which the poor generally can't afford?
Seems to me a lot of DNC policies like to take tax money from everyone and only give it back to people they agree with. This is just one more example.
Re:Think of real highways (1)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46829199)
You mean like they did in Northern VA with the Hot Lane project?
The 95 Express Lanes project was part of that. Control of the tax payer built and maintained interstate I95/395 HOV lanes that has been in place for over 30 years was turned over to a private company for profit business.... [wikipedia.org]... [about.com]
Oddly most areas that have done this are not actually making money which will lead to a very interesting dilemma in a few years. No doubt, at the tax payers expense.... [theatlanticcities.com]
A legitimate question (0)
Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46829073)
Why are we using the government to salvage shitty business