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The vaccine is not 100% effective, therefore it’s possible for the vaccinated to catch it and some have. The vaccine however reduces your chances of catching it and reduces the chances of spreading the virus to others and reduces the risk of people dying.
The unvaccinated are more of a threat because they are more likely to catch it than the vaccinated and therefore are more likely to spread it.
But you know all that anyway don’t you?
“The vaccine however reduces your chances of catching it and reduces the chances of spreading the virus to others…”
It reduces the hospitalisation of the old and vulnerable and the number of serious complications that lead to death in these groups,most younger people don’t realise they have covid.The reduction of catching or spreading it is plain nonsense.You can either catch it or you can’t.It is proven you can catch it vaccinated or not!
Believe what you want. There is plenty of evidence that it causes death and major problems to ALL age groups.
Comforting to know however that we have a world class expert in infectious diseases on the forum to keep us all safe from the virus.
Tell me BPG should I cancel my booster jab appointment tomorrow given your expert advice that the vaccinated can still catch Covid?
And if I can still spread Covid, do you think there is no point having it to protect others?
Everything you don’t like is communist. When getting into a car I am legally obliged to wear a seatbelt and ensure passengers are too. Until today I didn’t know this was the mark of Karl Marx.
Seemingly you don’t know the definition or the word ‘rate’.
Your Communist leanings are showing”
Alcy, I have checked the Wiki pages for Johnson and Javid and can’t find any reference that either are or have ever been Communists.
As BRI says it’s an accusation you seem to throw at anyone you don’t agree with. Are you a Nazi?
The logic is about minimising risk.
Any measures that do that should be implemented IMO.
Risk, rate, probability don’t exist in BPG’s 100% black and white world. You either believe or you don’t.
I think we know the effect of COVID if it spread through such an establishment. It seems, to me, perfectly reasonable to have stringent rules on entering the buildings if they reduce the risk – and as people have already said, vaccination reduces the risk. If a nurse decides to not vaccinate (it is their decision) they still have to follow the building rules. If they can do their job without entering the building, then they can keep their job.
If the vaccination meant 1 out of 12 could still catch COVID, albeit with less effect, and the unvaccinated Jesus (he thought he was bigger than COVID) was visited by 3 of his vaccinated disciples, there would be a 75% (on the flawed idea that it was 1 out of that 12) chance that they weren’t carrying. If, however, he had a big supper with all 12, the chance would be much higher, and maybe Barabbas would be crucified.
I have little qualms with measures to encourage vaccination, so the morality of having enforced vaccinations doesn’t bother me. It’s all very well and good talking about choice, but the choice of the unvaccinated puts others at risk. Those put at risk need to be considered too by those who concern themselves with those who choose not to get vaccinated.
My worry is that if some just sack off their job we might have a further stretched system, which may lead to more negative consequences.
Fifty Pence-“if the vaccination meant 1 out of 12 could still catch covid”.
Do tell who are these imaginary 1 in 12?
…who can still catch it (and spread it obviously!)
In my fictional universe, the one in twelve would be Simon the Zealot.
Careful Fifty, BPG is an expert on fictional universes!
Just like catching fish in a garden pond easy
“Just like catching fish in a garden pond easy”.
That would be a more constructive use of your time than hanging around on here like a bad smell. Run along along along.
I really don’t like using the same old same old but time to calm down your BP must be sky high
Just to let you know the more and more you and your friend carry on the longer I’m staying because it upsets you simple