In my early years as a scientist — diving, using submarines, living underwater, exploring the ocean, the joy of personal discovery was a large motivator. But now I am increasingly driven to not only explore myself but to try to get others to explore. The more people can be engaged personally to actually get in the ocean, to see for themselves how beautiful it is, how vulnerable the ocean is, how much we’re changing the ocean, I think that gives us a better chance as a species to survive.