Ring warsa 1964, ia ngicenin uning jadma pawawancara wantah ring pakaryan "pai babi khusus puniki," ia "ngawitin antuk Stetson sane becik lan nugelin," nekekang sisine antuk yeh gula.
In 1964, he told an interviewer that in making the pork pie, he started with a good Stetson hat and cut it down, stiffening the brim with concentrated sugar water.