"sarupo iko se nak ambo alah bajalan pula ka arah Sungai Nanam kalau ambo caliak tampek tu sangek rancak untuak di buek gunuang, dan di alahan panjang ko ado pulo tigo bukik jadi katigo bukik ko bia lah niniak pindahan se ka Sungai Nanam untuak di jadian gunuang.
And then when I worked with him on playing out from the back in a line of three [defenders], he moved from the three to become a holding midfielder because of his quality.