Punika mawinan, para janané kasengguh filsuf sané kapertama antuk dasar pamineh sané cupit, miwah para jana kapertama sané minayang "alam" miwah "konvensi."
For this reason, it is claimed these men were the first philosophers in the strict sense, and also the first people mind in nature essays on the interface of science and philosophy clearly distinguish "nature" and "convention.