I have discussed the idea of contributing our Win32 work to the
PostgreSQL project with management.

We have also converted all of the utilities (initdb, psql, pg_dump,
pg_restore, pg_id, pg_passwd, etc.)

Management is (rightfully) concerned about recouping the many thousands
of dollars invested in the Win32 conversion.

I pointed out that future versions would contain our enhancements and
therefore benefit us directly.

I pointed out that maintenance is 80% of the cost of a software system
and a world-wide team of good programmers would be maintaining the code
for all to benefit.

And last but not least, good computer Kharma.
;-)

They will have to cogitate over it a bit, I think.  If they agree, I
will make a file with our source tree available on an ftp site.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:48 PM
> To: Dann Corbit
> Cc: Tom Lane; PostgreSQL-development
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items
> 
> 
> 
> If you can contribute it, I think it would be valuable to the 
> two other
> Win32 projects that are working on porting the 7.3 code to Win32.
> 
> I don't think they will have any code ready for 7.3 but they 
> may have a
> few pieces they want to get in to make their 7.3 patching job easier,
> like renaming macros or variables or something.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------
> 
> Dann Corbit wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:50 PM
> > > To: Bruce Momjian
> > > Cc: PostgreSQL-development
> > > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > > Win32 - timefame?
> > 
> > I may be able to contribute the Win32 stuff we have done here.  (Not
> > sure of it, but they do seem more open to the idea now).  
> It's only for
> > 7.1.3, and so I am not sure how helpful it would be.  There 
> is also a
> > bunch of stuff that looks like this in the code:
> > 
> > #ifdef ICKY_WIN32_KLUDGE
> > /* Bletcherous hack to make it work in Win32 goes here... */
> > #else
> > /* Normal code goes here... */
> > #endif
> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested.
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Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:41:11 -0700
"Dann Corbit" <DCorbit@connx.com>
Re: Open 7.3 items
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Dann Corbit wrote:

> I have discussed the idea of contributing our Win32 work to the
> PostgreSQL project with management.
>
> We have also converted all of the utilities (initdb, psql, pg_dump,
> pg_restore, pg_id, pg_passwd, etc.)
>
> Management is (rightfully) concerned about recouping the many thousands
> of dollars invested in the Win32 conversion.

Ask them if they are willing to pay us for the many thousands of dollars
we've all invested in giving them something to even convert? *grin*




Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:58:29 -0300 (ADT)
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Open 7.3 items
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 20:41, Dann Corbit wrote:
> I have discussed the idea of contributing our Win32 work to the
> PostgreSQL project with management.
> 
> We have also converted all of the utilities (initdb, psql, pg_dump,
> pg_restore, pg_id, pg_passwd, etc.)
> 
> Management is (rightfully) concerned about recouping the many thousands
> of dollars invested in the Win32 conversion.
> 
> I pointed out that future versions would contain our enhancements and
> therefore benefit us directly.

Also, having some other win32 port as an official version would make it
even harder for them to recoup their money. Saying that your verison is
the base of the "official" is always a good selling point.

They can advance (a little) their recouping only in case when not
contributing delays the native win32 port by some significant amount of
time and at the same time postgreSQL somehow magically becomes popular
among Win32 folks.

I doubt that the last two can happen simultaneously.

> I pointed out that maintenance is 80% of the cost of a software system
> and a world-wide team of good programmers would be maintaining the code
> for all to benefit.

It also gives your customers a guarantee for the case you company goes
belly-up, which /could/ also be a selling point ;)

> And last but not least, good computer Kharma.
> ;-)

You could also mention the argument of "having bigger pies vs. having a
bigger slice of a tiny pie" ;)

---------------
Hannu


02 Aug 2002 12:45:25 +0200
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee>
Re: Open 7.3 items