Hello,

Here are few more translated messages into Russian
for the PG_DUMP component.

Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>

--
Serguei A. Mokhov
Sun, 7 Oct 2001 14:22:13 -0400
"Serguei Mokhov" <sa_mokho@alcor.concordia.ca>
PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)

I was noticing that most of the translations are just being put into the 
root of the source tree.  I just thought I would point out that could get 
messy and many projects realizing this have created a po directory off the 
source tree to store the translations in.  It might be worthwhile to 
create such a directory and implement this now then when more and more 
translations start pouring in.  Just a very concrete sequential way of 
keeping the "real" code visible.


On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Serguei Mokhov wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> for the PG_DUMP component.
> 
> Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> 
> --
> Serguei A. Mokhov
>   
> 

-- 
//========================================================\\
||  D. Hageman                    <dhageman@dracken.com>  ||
\\========================================================//


Sun, 7 Oct 2001 15:06:53 -0500 (CDT)
"D. Hageman" <dhageman@dracken.com>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: D. Hageman <dhageman@dracken.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 4:06 PM


> I was noticing that most of the translations are just being put into the 
> root of the source tree. 

Not exactly into the source root, but to the source
of individual components prepared for the NLS.

> I just thought I would point out that could get 
> messy and many projects realizing this have created a po directory off the 
> source tree to store the translations in.  It might be worthwhile to 
> create such a directory and implement this now then when more and more 
> translations start pouring in.  Just a very concrete sequential way of 
> keeping the "real" code visible.

There was discussion at some point going on AFAIR on the topic or
close to the topic, but I don't recall how it ended. But this idea is
not new, and I don't remember why this approach wasn't followed...

One could've created a /po dir as you are saying and have translations
under it with directories for every component. But I'm not sure how
the gettext and other tools work, so I it might be specifics of the
tools. I still have to install them in order to use. But it's Peter
Eisentraut is in charge of NLS, so I guess he can clarify these points
better than I.

--
S.


Sun, 7 Oct 2001 19:48:48 -0400
"Serguei Mokhov" <sa_mokho@alcor.concordia.ca>
Place of PO files for NLS (was Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian))
Serguei Mokhov writes:

> > I just thought I would point out that could get
> > messy and many projects realizing this have created a po directory off the
> > source tree to store the translations in.  It might be worthwhile to
> > create such a directory and implement this now then when more and more
> > translations start pouring in.  Just a very concrete sequential way of
> > keeping the "real" code visible.
>
> There was discussion at some point going on AFAIR on the topic or
> close to the topic, but I don't recall how it ended. But this idea is
> not new, and I don't remember why this approach wasn't followed...

I don't have a strong opinion about this other than "it's easier the way
it is now".  Once we get annoyed by it we can always change.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net   http://funkturm.homeip.net/~peter


Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:25:00 +0200 (CEST)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Place of PO files for NLS (was Re: [PATCHES] PG_DUMP NLS
	(Russian))
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 7:25 PM

> > > I just thought I would point out that could get
> > > messy and many projects realizing this have created a po directory off the
> > > source tree to store the translations in.  It might be worthwhile to
> > > create such a directory and implement this now then when more and more
> > > translations start pouring in.  Just a very concrete sequential way of
> > > keeping the "real" code visible.
> >
> > There was discussion at some point going on AFAIR on the topic or
> > close to the topic, but I don't recall how it ended. But this idea is
> > not new, and I don't remember why this approach wasn't followed...
> 
> I don't have a strong opinion about this other than "it's easier the way
> it is now".  Once we get annoyed by it we can always change.

Well, it kind of make sense to keep all the po files under a separate directory,
as a special kind of sub-tree, and it's easier to keep track of because all
translations are in the same place, and there isn't much of "distortion"
and "noise" for an eye of a developer looking for the source files in the source
code tree. For instance for psql we have already Czech, German, French, Russian,
Swedish, and two Chinese translations, that is 6 po files, and one expects their
number ot grow. They don't really belong to the source code... 'me thinks'.

How I invision this is to have a /src/nls dir, and components' dirs under it:

/src/nls/
        postgres/*.po
        pg_dump/*.po
        psql/*.po
        libpq/*.po
        anyothercomponent/*.po

But it's just me, and if it is easier to keep things the way they are
now, well you are the boss, but it might be harder to change them in the future
then if one will want to.

--
S.





Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:38:14 -0400
"Serguei Mokhov" <sa_mokho@alcor.concordia.ca>
Re: Place of PO files for NLS (was Re: [PATCHES] PG_DUMP NLS
	(Russian))

Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at:

	http://candle.pha.pa.us/cgi-bin/pgpatches

I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours.

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> Hello,
> 
> Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> for the PG_DUMP component.
> 
> Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> 
> --
> Serguei A. Mokhov
>   

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Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)

Patch applied.  Thanks.

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> Hello,
> 
> Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> for the PG_DUMP component.
> 
> Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> 
> --
> Serguei A. Mokhov
>   

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Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:25:28 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:25 AM

> Patch applied.  Thanks.

Here is another one :)
Another chunk of translated messages.
Please apply to the same file.

Thanks,

--
S.

> > Hello,
> > 
> > Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> > for the PG_DUMP component.
> > 
> > Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> > 
> > --
> > Serguei A. Mokhov
Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:46:30 -0400
"Serguei Mokhov" <sa_mokho@alcor.concordia.ca>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)

Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at:

	http://candle.pha.pa.us/cgi-bin/pgpatches

I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


 > ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:25 AM
> 
> > Patch applied.  Thanks.
> 
> Here is another one :)
> Another chunk of translated messages.
> Please apply to the same file.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> S.
> 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> > > for the PG_DUMP component.
> > > 
> > > Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Serguei A. Mokhov
> 

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Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:48:57 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)

Patch applied.  Thanks.

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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:25 AM
> 
> > Patch applied.  Thanks.
> 
> Here is another one :)
> Another chunk of translated messages.
> Please apply to the same file.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> S.
> 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Here are few more translated messages into Russian
> > > for the PG_DUMP component.
> > > 
> > > Please apply to </src/bin/pg_dump/ru.po>
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Serguei A. Mokhov
> 

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Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:50:04 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: PG_DUMP NLS (Russian)