Great Bridge ceased operation and not going to support postgreSQL
(because of lack of investor)

In these days of economic downturn, recession and world-wide  economic
depression...(and even the looming war) I am wondering
how the MySQL team is finding time to support and develop duplicate SQL
server products...

I am NOT FINDING time even to fully understand every line of postgreSQL
source code and use all the capabilities of POstgreSQL!!!

I hope the MySQL team will drop the development and Jump into PostgreSQL
development. Pgsql going to be the only sql server  to
run the WORLD ECONOMY smoothly.. There is no time support and develop
two duplicate products!! PostgreSQL is very advanced SQL server
more advanced than mysql.

If they (mysql developers) have lot of time to waste, I can give them
plenty of work at my home!!


Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:57:34 GMT
peace_flower <"alavoor[AT]"@yahoo.com>
Where do they find the time??? Great Bridge closed now!!!??
peace_flower <"alavoor[AT]"@yahoo.com> writes:
> I hope the MySQL team will drop the development and Jump into PostgreSQL
> development. Pgsql going to be the only sql server  to
> run the WORLD ECONOMY smoothly.. There is no time support and develop
> two duplicate products!! PostgreSQL is very advanced SQL server
> more advanced than mysql.

What a coincidence.  I was about to say the exact opposite.  Obviously,
PostgreSQL isn't the one true database and everyone should Jump into MySQL.
It is easier to type.

I hope your post was meant as a joke because it was hilarious.
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14 Sep 2001 12:06:20 -0400
Matthew Rice <matt@starnix.com>
Re: Where do they find the time??? Great Bridge closed now!!!??
> What a coincidence.  I was about to say the exact opposite.  Obviously,
> PostgreSQL isn't the one true database and everyone should Jump
> into MySQL.
> It is easier to type.
>
> I hope your post was meant as a joke because it was hilarious.

These days MySQL is less of a database and more of an SQL interface to about
10 different database backend products...

Chris


Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:53:38 +0800
"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>
Re: [HACKERS] Where do they find the time??? Great Bridge closed
	now!!!??
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> 
> > What a coincidence.  I was about to say the exact opposite.  Obviously,
> > PostgreSQL isn't the one true database and everyone should Jump
> > into MySQL.
> > It is easier to type.
> >
> > I hope your post was meant as a joke because it was hilarious.
> 
> These days MySQL is less of a database and more of an SQL interface to about
> 10 different database backend products...

On that note, maybe we should write a wrapper function so it becomes a
frontend interface for PostgreSQL!

;-)

+ Justin

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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:25:12 +1000
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Where do they find the time??? Great Bridge 
Heh, don't laugh.  That would actually be a great product, considering all 
those pre-written PHP and PERL scripts for MySQL.  I'm the SysAdmin of an 
ISP, and I have  a lot of conversations with our web clients like:

Do you support MySQL?

No, we use Postgres, it's got better features.

Yeah, but I found this script on the web, but it only supports MySQL, and 
I'm to lazy/stupid/cheap to convert it to Postgres.

Of course, I'm too lazy/cheap to admin two different database servers, so 
the clients are out of luck unless they want to pay extra for MySQL (no one 
has as of yet).


At 12:25 AM 9/17/01, Justin Clift wrote:
>Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
>[snip]
> > These days MySQL is less of a database and more of an SQL interface to 
> about
> > 10 different database backend products...
>
>On that note, maybe we should write a wrapper function so it becomes a
>frontend interface for PostgreSQL!
>
>;-)
>
>+ Justin
>
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Heh, don't laugh.  That would actually be a great
product, considering all those pre-written PHP and PERL scripts for
MySQL.  I'm the SysAdmin of an ISP, and I have  a lot of
conversations with our web clients like:

Do you support MySQL?

No, we use Postgres, it's got better features.

Yeah, but I found this script on the web, but it only supports MySQL, and
I'm to lazy/stupid/cheap to convert it to Postgres.

Of course, I'm too lazy/cheap to admin two different database servers, so
the clients are out of luck unless they want to pay extra for MySQL (no
one has as of yet).  


At 12:25 AM 9/17/01, Justin Clift wrote:
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
[snip]
> These days MySQL is less of a database and more of an SQL interface
to about
> 10 different database backend products...

On that note, maybe we should write a wrapper function so it becomes
a
frontend interface for PostgreSQL!

;-)

+ Justin

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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:47:45 -0300
Charles Tassell <ctassell@isn.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Where do they find the time??? Great
I wonder if it would really be possible to do?

+ Justin


Charles Tassell wrote:
> 
> Heh, don't laugh.  That would actually be a great product, considering
> all those pre-written PHP and PERL scripts for MySQL.  I'm the
> SysAdmin of an ISP, and I have  a lot of conversations with our web
> clients like:
> 
> Do you support MySQL?
> 
> No, we use Postgres, it's got better features.
> 
> Yeah, but I found this script on the web, but it only supports MySQL,
> and I'm to lazy/stupid/cheap to convert it to Postgres.
> 
> Of course, I'm too lazy/cheap to admin two different database servers,
> so the clients are out of luck unless they want to pay extra for MySQL
> (no one has as of yet).
> 
> At 12:25 AM 9/17/01, Justin Clift wrote:
> 
> > Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > These days MySQL is less of a database and more of an SQL
> > interface to about
> > > 10 different database backend products...
> >
> > On that note, maybe we should write a wrapper function so it becomes
> > a
> > frontend interface for PostgreSQL!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > + Justin
> >
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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:51:10 +1000
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Where do they find the time??? GreatBridge
Hey,

>I wonder if it would really be possible to do?

Sure is.

For php there's Pear (or I've written a DB wrapper, easily changed for 
databases)
Perl - already has DBI / DBD, no point redoing that.
Python - no idea, never used it.

The dumps would be a bit different but, something to work on.

Of course, it depends on the script you're looking at, whether it's worth 
re-writing from scratch or trying to convert it.


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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:58:56 +1000
Chris <csmith@squiz.net>
interfacing multiple db's (was Re: Where do they find the
	time??? GreatBridge)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:51:10PM +1000, Justin Clift wrote:
> I wonder if it would really be possible to do?

Well, it seems to me you could do it at serveral levels:

1. Have a proxy running on whatever port MySQL uses that simply translates
the queries coming in and emulates the protocol. Problem is, you'd have to
possibly translate function names, etc. I don't think there'd be any real
SQL constructs they support be we don't. You can always ignore anything not
supported unless it really has a material effect.

2. Support multiple grammers, configurable by database. Then you could
support:

CREATE DATABASE dummy EMULATING mysql;

Create a table of all the functions in mysql with a loadable module that
defines them all. Would make lots of people *really* happy. You could
emulate every database under the sun. That'd be an excellent marketing
point.

"PostgreSQL is much more powerful then MySQL. It even has an emulation mode
so all your existing MySQL programs will run without changes."

The thing is, I don't even think this would be too hard to do. A bit of time
to setup maybe. You could define a function pg_parser which is the parser
for this database.

Oh, you'd also have to support different client communication protocols. I
have no idea how hard that would be.

Would also need to provide a per connection override so that psql and
pg_dump could be used without having to rewrite them.

3. Similar to proxy but built into the database. Don't like this. Too many
levels of parsing. Seems the wrong place.

4. Supply a MySQL perl module that does the converting. Maybe be easy to do
but only covers one application at a time. More robust as a separate
application but would probably have to do complete parsing to give complete
support.

Probably others but I can't think of any right now.

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Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:40:41 +1000
Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Where do they find the time??? GreatBridge