Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL 
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to 
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is 
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has 
been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing 
PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

                      - Thomas


Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:38:19 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org>
Time to move on...
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Thanks for all your work, Thomas.  I hope to one day achieve similarly -
time be willing!

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
member of the steering committee?

Chris


Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:46:41 +0800
"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>
Re: Time to move on...
Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> 
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee.

Wow.  That was totally unexpected.

A sad day.  :-/


> It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Good luck Thomas.

Truly hope you're going to have heaps of fun, enjoy yourself, and find
the new projects rewarding too.

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


> Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
> been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
> PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
> 
>                       - Thomas

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who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
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Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:48:55 +1100
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: Time to move on...
Hey Thomas,

Although we have never corresponded, I just wanted to say thank you to 
yourself and all the other hackers who have devoted their time voluntarily to 
PostgreSQL. It really is appreciated.

Cheers

Mark Pritchard

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
>
> Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
> been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
> PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
>
>                       - Thomas
>
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster


Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:53:10 +1100
Mark Pritchard <mark.pritchard@modus.com.au>
Re: Time to move on...
"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
> member of the steering committee?

Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

			regards, tom lane

Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:23:03 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Time to move on... 
Tom Lane wrote:
> "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
> > member of the steering committee?
> 
> Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

The logic usually has been to add people to core who are so involved in
the release process that we couldn't imagine scheduling a release
without them.

I am not saying all current core members are that involved, but at the
time they were added to core, they were.

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Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:03:23 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Time to move on...
On Friday 15 November 2002 01:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

I'll echo the sad day response of earlier.  You have done quite a bit for the 
project, and you will be missed.

> Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
> been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
> PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

Thomas, good luck.
-- 
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:37:57 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: Time to move on...
On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
> > new member of the steering committee?
>
> Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a 
new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the 
core members.

If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is.  Having five core versus 
six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists 
of people who are already doing development now.  Having an odd number of 
core has its advantages.
-- 
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:40:11 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: Time to move on...
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
> steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
> participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
> time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

I'm really sorry to hear that.  Good luck in all of your future endeavors.

Vince.
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Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:20:09 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: Time to move on...
Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:
> > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
> > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
> > > new member of the steering committee?
> >
> > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".
> 
> IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a 
> new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the 
> core members.
> 
> If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is.  Having five core versus 
> six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists 
> of people who are already doing development now.  Having an odd number of 
> core has its advantages.

I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

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Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:05:47 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Time to move on...
> I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
> more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
> and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
> issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

Chris



Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:07:11 +0800 (WST)
Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>
Re: Time to move on...
On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
> > more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
> > and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
> > issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

> OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

committers != core
-- 
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:11:09 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: Time to move on...
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:
> On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
> 
> committers != core

Is there any reason for this distinction?

Cheers,

Neil

-- 
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16 Nov 2002 01:21:42 -0500
Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com>
Re: Time to move on...
Neil Conway wrote:
> Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:
> > On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
> > 
> > committers != core
> 
> Is there any reason for this distinction?

I assume you are asking why there is core?  It is really just for
getting a quick vote among folks for final release date, and for
discussing things with individuals and companies who require a private
conversation among PostgreSQL representatives.

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Sat, 16 Nov 2002 09:10:02 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Time to move on...