> Thus spake Andrew Martin
> > > up just with a comment like "Linux != Unix"...which, it isn't, its a
> > > Unix-like clone...but they can't seem to figure the distinction *rofl*
> > 
> > Agreed... :-)  But BSD isn't Unix either - not officially. [Waits for
> > Marc to disagree, again...]
> 
> Of course it is.  It has direct lineage back the Bell Labs.  There is
> no AT&T code left in but you can most definitely say "BSD Unix" where
> you can't say "Linux Unix."  For many years Berkeley was the main
> development hotbed for Unix.  In fact, BSD was eventually fed back
> into SVR4.

'fraid it isn't. Unix is a trademark and can only be applied to systems
which the trademark owner approves. Just 'cos the code has a certain
heritage doesn't mean that the current version is approved. There is
a FAQ somewhere which discusses all the issues - I forget the details.

> 
> > Not to mention the fact that at least one release of Linux did go through
> > full Posix certification and is thus allowed to be called Unix :-)
> 
> Posix != Unix.  NT is a Posix system.  So is OpenVMS.
True - I was over zealous there. However the release was given approval for
the Unix label to be applied.

> 
> BTW, which version of Linux was Posix certified and who paid for it?
It was Linux-FT - I believe the company producing it is now defunct :-(


Andrew
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Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:41:59 GMT
Andrew Martin <martin@biochemistry.ucl.ac.uk>
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL - the Linux of Databases...
Thus spake Andrew Martin
> > Of course it is.  It has direct lineage back the Bell Labs.  There is
> > no AT&T code left in but you can most definitely say "BSD Unix" where
> > you can't say "Linux Unix."  For many years Berkeley was the main
> > development hotbed for Unix.  In fact, BSD was eventually fed back
> > into SVR4.
> 
> 'fraid it isn't. Unix is a trademark and can only be applied to systems
> which the trademark owner approves. Just 'cos the code has a certain
> heritage doesn't mean that the current version is approved. There is
> a FAQ somewhere which discusses all the issues - I forget the details.

Sure, sure.  It isn't Unix if there's a liar^H^H^Hawyer in the room
but we know who it's parents are.

> > BTW, which version of Linux was Posix certified and who paid for it?
> It was Linux-FT - I believe the company producing it is now defunct :-(

Figures.  Perhaps they should have spent their money elsewhere.  I don't
know anyone personally who is really impressed with Posix certification.
Those who really understand know that it is meaningless and those that
don't could care less.  There's only a small constituency somewhere in
the middle there that think it is important and they aren't buying
anything that has any hint of "free" about it.

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Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:31:14 -0500 (EST)
darcy@druid.net (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL - the Linux of Databases...