

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Clift [mailto:justin@postgresql.org] 
> Sent: 09 March 2003 09:57
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgman@candle.pha.pa.us; greg@turnstep.com; 
> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Who puts the Windows binaries on the 
> FTP server?
> 
> 
> > PS. Is the source on the ftpsite - if not you'll have Jason 
> after you 
> > before long :-)
> 
> The source?  It's the standard version of cygwin.  It's just packaged 
> differently.  :)
> 

Doens't matter. The GPL requires that the source be made available from
the same place as the binaries. Someone got pulled up on that on on the
pgsql-cygwin list the other day after publicising a similar installer to
yours.

Regards, Dave.

Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:21:01 -0000
"Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?
Dave Page wrote:
<snip>
> Doens't matter. The GPL requires that the source be made available from
> the same place as the binaries. Someone got pulled up on that on on the
> pgsql-cygwin list the other day after publicising a similar installer to
> yours.

Ok.  Will download the cygwin source and the PostgreSQL-cygwin source 
and put it on the Techdocs site, with a link to it from the same page 
that refers to the PostgreSQL Cywin package, and also create a README 
file for the package pointing to the source as well (and put it in the 
FTP download directory).

Just added this to my ToDo list.

:)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


> Regards, Dave.


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"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi


Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:19:30 +1030
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 19:19:30 +1030,
>   Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> wrote:
> 
>>Dave Page wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>Doens't matter. The GPL requires that the source be made available from
>>>the same place as the binaries. Someone got pulled up on that on on the
>>>pgsql-cygwin list the other day after publicising a similar installer to
>>>yours.
>>
>>Ok.  Will download the cygwin source and the PostgreSQL-cygwin source 
>>and put it on the Techdocs site, with a link to it from the same page 
>>that refers to the PostgreSQL Cywin package, and also create a README 
>>file for the package pointing to the source as well (and put it in the 
>>FTP download directory).
> 
> Are you sure you need to do that? Shouldn't you just have to provide source
> to the gnu programs you are including?

Probably, but it seems a more time efficient approach just to download 
the whole lot, tar it up, and provide links to it.  It's all BSD or GPL, 
so there's no stress in doing that.

:)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

-- 
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi


Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:21:32 +1030
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 19:19:30 +1030,
  Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> wrote:
> Dave Page wrote:
> <snip>
> >Doens't matter. The GPL requires that the source be made available from
> >the same place as the binaries. Someone got pulled up on that on on the
> >pgsql-cygwin list the other day after publicising a similar installer to
> >yours.
> 
> Ok.  Will download the cygwin source and the PostgreSQL-cygwin source 
> and put it on the Techdocs site, with a link to it from the same page 
> that refers to the PostgreSQL Cywin package, and also create a README 
> file for the package pointing to the source as well (and put it in the 
> FTP download directory).

Are you sure you need to do that? Shouldn't you just have to provide source
to the gnu programs you are including?

Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:54:15 -0600
Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:21:01AM -0000, Dave Page wrote:

> > > PS. Is the source on the ftpsite - if not you'll have Jason 
> > after you 
> > > before long :-)
> > 
> > The source?  It's the standard version of cygwin.  It's just packaged 
> > differently.  :)
> 
> Doens't matter. The GPL requires that the source be made available from
> the same place as the binaries.

Really?  Where?  The clause about providing source says (note the "or"
between the clauses):

  3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:

    a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable
    source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections
    1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,

    b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
    years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
    cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
    machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
    distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
    customarily used for software interchange; or,

    c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer
    to distribute corresponding source code.  (This alternative is
    allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you
    received the program in object code or executable form with such
    an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)


Did Justin compile the whole Cygwin package he is distributing?

-- 
Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>)
"Cada quien es cada cual y baja las escaleras como quiere" (JMSerrat)

Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:43:27 -0400
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
<snip>
> Did Justin compile the whole Cygwin package he is distributing?

Nope, I just used the already-compiled version of things.

Ran the cygwin installer as per normal, selected PostgreSQL, removed 
some files that didn't look necessary (the GPL and BSD licenses were 
left in of course), ran the packaging utility on them, and uploaded them 
to the site.

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

-- 
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi


Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:31:22 +1030
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
Re: Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?