Dear members of the PostgreSQL Community,

I registered the congress at the European Parliament (Brussels Thursday 8 May 
2003 9:00-12:00 room ASP 1G2) to explain in 2 minutes how PostgreSQL and some 
of its offshots (pgAdmin & PhpPgAdmin) can benefit the economy.

If you are interested in joining us, please contact directly Laurence van de 
Walle (Lvandewalle@europarl.eu.int) and CC me. A registration is needed to 
have access to the conference room, get a badge, etc...

Best regards,
Jean-Michel POURE
******************************************************************************


Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware patents !
 
On May 8 morning in European Parliament in Brussels, innovative software
companies such as MySQL, Galeco, Ilog, Opera ... will gather with Richard
Stallman and MEPs from the Greens-efa Group to voice their concerns on the
implications of software patents on SMEs.
 
Software are currently protected by copyright but there is a project for a
European directive to legalize patents on software (com 2002-092). Although
many Members of Parliament are aware that the patent system is not suitable 
for sofware, the rapporteur Arlene McCarthy (UK, Labour) is in favour. If 
Europe would adopt a system similar to the American system, 30.000 software 
patents waiting to be legalized would be inforced. Patents favour huge 
companies that can affoard a legal department, therefore harming small and 
medium-sized enterprises that create most of the innovation in the IT field. 
Patents are expensive, cause a lot of administrative work, are granted slowly 
and for a long period, while the life cycle of sofwtare is short ... 
Moreover, patents kill the free and open source software. The patent system  
does not fit softwares.
 
We call on software developpers, sofware companies, and all those who support
copyright protection for software to come and address a clear signal to the
European legislative body, shortly before the final vote takes place. After 
the conference a joyfull gathering on the theme "Free ideas for a Free World" 
with street theater and a buffet lunch is planned in front of the Parliament 
Place du Luxembourg.
 
Registration and programme : Laurence Van de Walle
Lvandewalle@europarl.eu.int +32-2-2841695
http://www.greens-efa.org
 
This is part of a larger event "Software patents from legal worldplay to
economic reality" with B. Kahin at the Dorint Hotel 7 May 14-18:00 organized 
by FFII
 
!!!!!!!THANKS FOR HELPING WIDESPREADING !!!!!!
 

SOFTWARE PATENTS AND EUROPEAN SME
 
A conference co-organized by the Greens-efa and the Liberal Groups in European
Parliament
 
Brussels Thursday 8 May 2003 9:00-12:00 room ASP 1G2
 
 
 
9:00   Welcome address by Dany Cohn-Bendit MEP chair Green-efa and Graham
Watson MEP Chair ELDR
 

9:15  "The Commission's proposal in a legal perspective" by R. Bakel,
university of Amsterdam, co-author study Juri 107
 With the participation of E. Plooij-Van Gorsel (ELDR, rapporteur ITRE) and M.
Rocard (PSE, rapporteur CULT) to be confirmed
 
9: 45 "Economic consequences of software patents" by Ph. Aigrain, European
Commission
 
10:00  Panel I : "Innovative SME and Software patents" : Case studies
 
David Axmark, CEO MySQL (data bases) Sweden
Hakon Wium Lie, CTO Opera (makes sofware for Nokia) Norway
Pierre Haren, CEO Ilog (object-oriented software engineering) France
Wojtek Narczynski CEO Power Media (Custom web software) Poland
Thorsten Lemke, CEO Lemke Software (Graphic Converter) Germany
nn, CEO Symlabs.com (identity manager) Portugal
 
11:00  Debate with MEPs, SMEs and the public
 
11:30  Keynote speach : Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project : How
Software Patents Affect Software Development
 
12:00  Conclusion by Graham Watson MEP and Dany Cohn-Bendit MEP
 
After the conference a joyfull gathering on the theme "Free ideas for a Free
World" with street theater and a buffet lunch is planned in front of the
Parliament Place du Luxembourg.
 
On May 7 afternoon a conference "Software patents from legal wording to
economic reality" with B. Kahin and Lawrence Lessig will take place in Hotel
Dorint Bd Charlemagne 11-19 Brussels


Thu, 1 May 2003 09:14:29 +0200
Jean-Michel POURE <jm.poure@freesurf.fr>
Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware patents
While you are there perhaps you can make them aware of this absurdity

http://www.kslaw.com/library/articles.asp?1063



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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: [HACKERS] Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware patents


> Dear members of the PostgreSQL Community,
>
> I registered the congress at the European Parliament (Brussels Thursday 8
May
> 2003 9:00-12:00 room ASP 1G2) to explain in 2 minutes how PostgreSQL and
some
> of its offshots (pgAdmin & PhpPgAdmin) can benefit the economy.
>
> If you are interested in joining us, please contact directly Laurence van
de
> Walle (Lvandewalle@europarl.eu.int) and CC me. A registration is needed to
> have access to the conference room, get a badge, etc...
>
> Best regards,
> Jean-Michel POURE
>
****************************************************************************
**
>
>
> Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware patents !
>
> On May 8 morning in European Parliament in Brussels, innovative software
> companies such as MySQL, Galeco, Ilog, Opera ... will gather with Richard
> Stallman and MEPs from the Greens-efa Group to voice their concerns on the
> implications of software patents on SMEs.
>
> Software are currently protected by copyright but there is a project for a
> European directive to legalize patents on software (com 2002-092).
Although
> many Members of Parliament are aware that the patent system is not
suitable
> for sofware, the rapporteur Arlene McCarthy (UK, Labour) is in favour. If
> Europe would adopt a system similar to the American system, 30.000
software
> patents waiting to be legalized would be inforced. Patents favour huge
> companies that can affoard a legal department, therefore harming small and
> medium-sized enterprises that create most of the innovation in the IT
field.
> Patents are expensive, cause a lot of administrative work, are granted
slowly
> and for a long period, while the life cycle of sofwtare is short ...
> Moreover, patents kill the free and open source software. The patent
system
> does not fit softwares.
>
> We call on software developpers, sofware companies, and all those who
support
> copyright protection for software to come and address a clear signal to
the
> European legislative body, shortly before the final vote takes place.
After
> the conference a joyfull gathering on the theme "Free ideas for a Free
World"
> with street theater and a buffet lunch is planned in front of the
Parliament
> Place du Luxembourg.
>
> Registration and programme : Laurence Van de Walle
> Lvandewalle@europarl.eu.int +32-2-2841695
> http://www.greens-efa.org
>
> This is part of a larger event "Software patents from legal worldplay to
> economic reality" with B. Kahin at the Dorint Hotel 7 May 14-18:00
organized
> by FFII
>
> !!!!!!!THANKS FOR HELPING WIDESPREADING !!!!!!
>
>
> SOFTWARE PATENTS AND EUROPEAN SME
>
> A conference co-organized by the Greens-efa and the Liberal Groups in
European
> Parliament
>
> Brussels Thursday 8 May 2003 9:00-12:00 room ASP 1G2
>
>
>
> 9:00   Welcome address by Dany Cohn-Bendit MEP chair Green-efa and Graham
> Watson MEP Chair ELDR
>
>
> 9:15  "The Commission's proposal in a legal perspective" by R. Bakel,
> university of Amsterdam, co-author study Juri 107
>  With the participation of E. Plooij-Van Gorsel (ELDR, rapporteur ITRE)
and M.
> Rocard (PSE, rapporteur CULT) to be confirmed
>
> 9: 45 "Economic consequences of software patents" by Ph. Aigrain, European
> Commission
>
> 10:00  Panel I : "Innovative SME and Software patents" : Case studies
>
> David Axmark, CEO MySQL (data bases) Sweden
> Hakon Wium Lie, CTO Opera (makes sofware for Nokia) Norway
> Pierre Haren, CEO Ilog (object-oriented software engineering) France
> Wojtek Narczynski CEO Power Media (Custom web software) Poland
> Thorsten Lemke, CEO Lemke Software (Graphic Converter) Germany
> nn, CEO Symlabs.com (identity manager) Portugal
>
> 11:00  Debate with MEPs, SMEs and the public
>
> 11:30  Keynote speach : Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project : How
> Software Patents Affect Software Development
>
> 12:00  Conclusion by Graham Watson MEP and Dany Cohn-Bendit MEP
>
> After the conference a joyfull gathering on the theme "Free ideas for a
Free
> World" with street theater and a buffet lunch is planned in front of the
> Parliament Place du Luxembourg.
>
> On May 7 afternoon a conference "Software patents from legal wording to
> economic reality" with B. Kahin and Lawrence Lessig will take place in
Hotel
> Dorint Bd Charlemagne 11-19 Brussels
>
>
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Thu, 1 May 2003 12:23:35 +0100
"Tim Hawkins" <tim@timhawkins.co.uk>
Re: [HACKERS] Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware
	patents
Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> Dear members of the PostgreSQL Community,
> 
> I registered the congress at the European Parliament (Brussels Thursday 8 May 
> 2003 9:00-12:00 room ASP 1G2) to explain in 2 minutes how PostgreSQL and some 
> of its offshots (pgAdmin & PhpPgAdmin) can benefit the economy.
> 
> If you are interested in joining us, please contact directly Laurence van de 
> Walle (Lvandewalle@europarl.eu.int) and CC me. A registration is needed to 
> have access to the conference room, get a badge, etc...
> 
> Best regards,
> Jean-Michel POURE
> ******************************************************************************


This is definitely a good chance to spread the spirit of Open Source to 
the world.
Unfortunately we cannot support you in Brussels since I am on a business 
trip to Greece. However, maybe there is something we can offer you.
I used to work for an Austrian research company focusing on the labour 
market a few years ago. I can try to get some figures about IT companies 
telling us that there are MORE people working in small IT companies than 
in huge ones. I will most likely get those figures for Austria - maybe 
for Europe.

I you guys think that's useful and if you want to present those figures 
please drop me an email and I will contact my friends at Synthesis.

	Regards,

		Hans

-- 
Cybertec Geschwinde u Schoenig
Ludo-Hartmannplatz 1/14, A-1160 Vienna, Austria
Tel: +43/2952/30706; +43/664/233 90 75
www.sapdb.at, www.cybertec.at, www.postgresql.at, kernel.cybertec.at


Thu, 01 May 2003 13:56:08 +0200
Hans-Juergen Schoenig <hs@cybertec.at>
Re: [HACKERS] Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware
	patents
Tim Hawkins wrote:

> While you are there perhaps you can make them aware of this absurdity
> 
> http://www.kslaw.com/library/articles.asp?1063

I had to remind myself that today was May 1 and not April 1. That is
the most sickening thing I've read in a long time...until I read the
letter sent by SBC to museumtour.com:

http://www2.museumtour.com/sbc.html

Mike


Thu, 01 May 2003 08:38:18 -0400
Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse
Le Jeudi 1 Mai 2003 13:56, Hans-Juergen Schoenig a écrit :
> I you guys think that's useful and if you want to present those figures
> please drop me an email and I will contact my friends at Synthesis.

Dear Hans,

I would be very interested in getting the data for Austria.

Best regards,
Jean-Michel


Sat, 3 May 2003 17:13:30 +0200
Jean-Michel POURE <jm.poure@freesurf.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] Join Stallman and Software SMEs to refuse sofware
	patents