I've posted the 7.1 hardcopy (postscript) docs at

  ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/doc/7.1/*.ps.gz

and

  http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs

I've also generated standalone html versions of the docs in case someone
wants that format. All are available at the http reference above.

I was not able to get into the site to test the ftp connection, but it
*should* work. Let me know if it does not. Also, if there is interest in
an A4 layout of the docs, let me know...

afaik things should be available on mirrors by tomorrow.

                      - Thomas

Can someone generate PDF versions of these? Sorry I can't remember all
those who volunteered, so perhaps we should coordinate on the -hackers
list so folks don't duplicate work. Thanks!

Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:45:13 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Hardcopy docs available
> Can someone generate PDF versions of these? Sorry I can't remember all
> those who volunteered, so perhaps we should coordinate on the -hackers
> list so folks don't duplicate work. Thanks!

If you have Postscript, does ps2pdf do anything useful for you?  The
issue is that the site that generated the Postscript should be the one
who generates the PDF because the font metrics use to generate the
Postscript should be the same as the fonts embedded in the PDF file.

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Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:16:00 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available
There may be a better way to create PDF files if you have TeX.  See
http://www.tug.org/applications/jadetex/

I haven't used Jade, so I don't know, but the PDF files that are output by
pdftex and pdflatex are smaller than those created by ps2pdf and easier to
read on your monitor (I think because they use the built-in PDF fonts where
they can.)

Ken Hirsch
All your database are belong to us

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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available


> > Can someone generate PDF versions of these? Sorry I can't remember all
> > those who volunteered, so perhaps we should coordinate on the -hackers
> > list so folks don't duplicate work. Thanks!
>
> If you have Postscript, does ps2pdf do anything useful for you?  The
> issue is that the site that generated the Postscript should be the one
> who generates the PDF because the font metrics use to generate the
> Postscript should be the same as the fonts embedded in the PDF file.
>
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Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:02:41 -0400
"Ken Hirsch" <kenhirsch@myself.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ]
> There may be a better way to create PDF files if you have TeX.  See
> http://www.tug.org/applications/jadetex/
> 
> I haven't used Jade, so I don't know, but the PDF files that are output by
> pdftex and pdflatex are smaller than those created by ps2pdf and easier to
> read on your monitor (I think because they use the built-in PDF fonts where
> they can.)

There is nothing inherent with TeX that makes embedded fonts more or
less likely.  You will need Ghostscript >= 6.0 to embed any nonstandard
fonts.

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Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:52:28 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available
Thomas Lockhart writes:

> I've posted the 7.1 hardcopy (postscript) docs at

This list is getting out of hand:

                     Read the Administrator's Guide online
                     Download the Postscript version of the Administrator's Guide
                     Download the HTML version of the Administrator's Guide

                     Read the Developer's Guide online
                     Download the Postscript version of the Developer's Guide
                     Download the HTML version of the Developer's Guide

                     Read the Integrated Docs online
                     Download the HTML version of the Integrated Docs

                     Read the Programmer's Guide online
                     Download the Postscript version of the Programmer's Guide
                     Download the HTML version of the Programmer's Guide

                     Read the Reference Manual online
                     Download the Postscript version of the Reference Manual
                     Download the HTML version of the Reference Manual

                     Read the Tutorial online
                     Download the Postscript version of the Tutorial
                     Download the HTML version of the Tutorial

                     Read the User's Guide online
                     Download the Postscript version of the User's Guide
                     Download the HTML version of the User's Guide

There should only be one link "Read Documentation Online".  When you click
on that you get all the tables of content and you can make a much better
decision which book you actually want to read.

In any case, this list could be better organized visually.  Maybe
something like

_Read Documentation Online_

_Download the Documentation_

* HTML

    Complete documentation set (tar.gz, 648k)
    Complete documentation on a single page (xxxk)

    Administrator's Guide (tar.gz, xxxk)
    Administrator's Guide on a single page (xxxk)

    Developers' Guide (tar.gz, xxxk)
    etc.

* Postscript

    Administrator's Guide [ A4 ] [ US Letter ]
    Developer's Guide [ A4 ] [ US Letter ]
    etc.

* PDF

    ...

> I've also generated standalone html versions of the docs in case someone
> wants that format. All are available at the http reference above.

Should we integrate these into the build system?

> Can someone generate PDF versions of these?

ps2pdf

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Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:14:45 +0200 (CEST)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available
Okay, you're right.  I just updated my Ghostscript to 7.00 (just out) and it
produced very nice PDFs.  I can upload them somewhere if you give me an FTP
address.

Ken Hirsch

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From: "Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
To: "Ken Hirsch" <kenhirsch@myself.com>
Cc: <lockhart@fourpalms.org>; "Hackers List" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>;
<pgsql-announce@postgresql.org>; <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available


> [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ]
> > There may be a better way to create PDF files if you have TeX.  See
> > http://www.tug.org/applications/jadetex/
> >
> > I haven't used Jade, so I don't know, but the PDF files that are output
by
> > pdftex and pdflatex are smaller than those created by ps2pdf and easier
to
> > read on your monitor (I think because they use the built-in PDF fonts
where
> > they can.)
>
> There is nothing inherent with TeX that makes embedded fonts more or
> less likely.  You will need Ghostscript >= 6.0 to embed any nonstandard
> fonts.
>
> --
>   Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
>   pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 853-3000
>   +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  830 Blythe Avenue
>   +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
>


Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:33:52 -0400
"Ken Hirsch" <kenhirsch@myself.com>
Re: Hardcopy docs available
> I've posted the 7.1 hardcopy (postscript) docs at
> 
>   ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/doc/7.1/*.ps.gz
> 
> and
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs
> 
> I've also generated standalone html versions of the docs in case someone
> wants that format. All are available at the http reference above.

Great work!

> I was not able to get into the site to test the ftp connection, but it
> *should* work. Let me know if it does not. Also, if there is interest in
> an A4 layout of the docs, let me know...

Yes, please. We need A4 layout...
--
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Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:36:49 +0900
Tatsuo Ishii <t-ishii@sra.co.jp>
Re: [HACKERS] Hardcopy docs available
> Okay, you're right.  I just updated my Ghostscript to 7.00 (just out) and it
> produced very nice PDFs.  I can upload them somewhere if you give me an FTP
> address.

Just mail them to me and I'll post them for you. ps2pdf seems to do a
nice (simple) job from the 5.50 version I'm running, so presumably 7.00
will do even better.

                       - Thomas

Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:43:24 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: Hardcopy docs available
> ... if there is interest in an A4 layout of the docs, let me know...

I've gotten several requests for the A4 format, and have completed four
of the six docs in that format. Thanks for the feedback. They should be
available in the next couple of days...

                     - Thomas

Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:04:36 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: Hardcopy docs available
> > ... if there is interest in an A4 layout of the docs, let me know...
> I've gotten several requests for the A4 format, and have completed four
> of the six docs in that format. Thanks for the feedback. They should be
> available in the next couple of days...

OK, A4 docs are now posted on the web site and the ftp site. Also, I've
put copies of the html tarballs on the ftp site, so there should now be
tarballs, two kinds of postscript, and PDFs available there.

If someone wants to run the A4 docs through a PDF converter, send 'em to
me and I'll post them too.

                         - Thomas

Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:05:17 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: Hardcopy docs available
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> > > ... if there is interest in an A4 layout of the docs, let me know...
> > I've gotten several requests for the A4 format, and have completed four
> > of the six docs in that format. Thanks for the feedback. They should be
> > available in the next couple of days...
>
> OK, A4 docs are now posted on the web site and the ftp site. Also, I've
> put copies of the html tarballs on the ftp site, so there should now be
> tarballs, two kinds of postscript, and PDFs available there.
>
> If someone wants to run the A4 docs through a PDF converter, send 'em to
> me and I'll post them too.

Tom, ps2pdf is on hub.

Vince.
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Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:16:30 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Hardcopy docs available
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> If someone wants to run the A4 docs through a PDF converter, send 'em to
> me and I'll post them too.

I just did the userA4 pdf from hub with this:

$ gzcat userA4.ps.gz | ps2pdf - > userA4.pdf

Do you want me to do the rest of them?   Or we can probably have the
makindex script do it for us.

Vince.
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Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:00:42 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [GENERAL] Re: Hardcopy docs available
> > If someone wants to run the A4 docs through a PDF converter, send 'em to
> > me and I'll post them too.
> I just did the userA4 pdf from hub with this:
> $ gzcat userA4.ps.gz | ps2pdf - > userA4.pdf
> Do you want me to do the rest of them?   Or we can probably have the
> makindex script do it for us.

Sure. Anything is fine.

                   - Thomas

Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:58:14 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: [GENERAL] Re: Hardcopy docs available
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> > > If someone wants to run the A4 docs through a PDF converter, send 'em to
> > > me and I'll post them too.
> > I just did the userA4 pdf from hub with this:
> > $ gzcat userA4.ps.gz | ps2pdf - > userA4.pdf
> > Do you want me to do the rest of them?   Or we can probably have the
> > makindex script do it for us.
>
> Sure. Anything is fine.

Already done.  a42ps in the doc index.

Vince.
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Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:16:44 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [GENERAL] Re: Hardcopy docs available