I know this is off topic but...

How do the programmers here get paid?

1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
2. Your day job encourages you to spend some of your time developing the db that your company uses.
3. There is an organization that accepts money and distributes it to the hackers.
4. You are all independently wealthy and do this for the fun of it.
5. You are still living at home with mom and expect one day to get a real job from this.

Seriously
My friend and I were talking about the open software movement and how great it is and he keeps on asking how people like us get paid.
Basically my friend and me are the type that like to stay home and not visit customers and just solve problems and write code. Probably a lot like all of you.

thanks
bob

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Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:22:43 -0500
Robert Davis <rdavis@lillysoftware.com>
off topic
> How do the programmers here get paid?
> 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.

Bingo!

> 2. Your day job encourages you to spend some of your time
> developing the db that your company uses.

I know a few developers are in this category.

> 4. You are all independently wealthy and do this for the fun of it.

I could see this as something to do in retirement; a bunch of cranky
70 year olds debating the next development for Postgres isn't a pretty
thought however...

                      - Thomas

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Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:57:32 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
> > How do the programmers here get paid?
> > 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
> 
> Bingo!

I will give him a double-bingo!

> 
> > 2. Your day job encourages you to spend some of your time
> > developing the db that your company uses.
> 
> I know a few developers are in this category.
> 
> > 4. You are all independently wealthy and do this for the fun of it.
> 
> I could see this as something to do in retirement; a bunch of cranky
> 70 year olds debating the next development for Postgres isn't a pretty
> thought however...

We are cranky enough.  "You want to add feature X.  We don't think that
is a good idea."  :-)

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Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:21:07 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 12:21:07PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > How do the programmers here get paid?
> > > 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
> > 
> > Bingo!
> 
> I will give him a double-bingo!

Make this a triple.

Michael
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Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:00:14 +0100
Michael Meskes <meskes@postgresql.org>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Robert Davis wrote:

> I know this is off topic but...
> 
> How do the programmers here get paid?
> 
> 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
> 2. Your day job encourages you to spend some of your time developing the db that your company uses.
> 3. There is an organization that accepts money and distributes it to the hackers.

this one does exist (http://www.pgsql.com) ... part of all the revenues
that are made by "PostgreSQL, Inc" is allocated to be fed back into the
project... the kitty isn't very big ye, but it is there, and its
growing...

Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 


Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:14:09 -0400 (AST)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 12:21:07PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > How do the programmers here get paid?
> > > > 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
> > > 
> > > Bingo!
> > 
> > I will give him a double-bingo!
> 
> Make this a triple.

I think we are all insane, or very sane.  Not sure which.

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Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:56:49 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
Michael Meskes <meskes@postgreSQL.org> writes:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 12:21:07PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>>>>> How do the programmers here get paid?
>>>>>> 1. You do this in your spare time and dont get paid.
>>>> 
>>>> Bingo!
>> 
>> I will give him a double-bingo!

> Make this a triple.

Quadruple-bingo.

Actually I could be put into category (2) --- my company uses Postgres,
so I have some excuse for working on Postgres during working hours ---
but I spend way more personal than business time on it.  It's just an
interesting project, that's all.

			regards, tom lane

Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:46:37 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic 
On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:49PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I think we are all insane, or very sane.  Not sure which.

Ask my wife and she surely says the former. :-)

Michael
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Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:35:07 +0100
Michael Meskes <meskes@postgreSQL.org>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:49PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I think we are all insane, or very sane.  Not sure which.
> 
> Ask my wife and she surely says the former. :-)

The book helped my wife see some value in this.  "Gee, I don't know
anyone who wrote a book", she said.

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Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:03:07 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:03:07AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> The book helped my wife see some value in this.  "Gee, I don't know
> anyone who wrote a book", she said.

Good idea, but you have to find time for writing a book too. Also I already
did this with my Ph.D. thesis so I'm afraid it won't count. :-)

Michael
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Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:54:09 +0100
Michael Meskes <meskes@postgresql.org>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:03:07AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > The book helped my wife see some value in this.  "Gee, I don't know
> > anyone who wrote a book", she said.
> 
> Good idea, but you have to find time for writing a book too. Also I already
> did this with my Ph.D. thesis so I'm afraid it won't count. :-)

Yes, you lose even more time with the book, which is added to the
PostgreSQL time.

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Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:36:16 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] off topic