I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

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Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:00:27 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
mailing list messages
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> not appear?

I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

A subscription option to turn 'em off seems sufficient, though.
We don't need to automate the choice for people.

			regards, tom lane

Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:23:31 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: mailing list messages 
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> > for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> > not appear?
> 
> I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I hear you.

> A subscription option to turn 'em off seems sufficient, though.
> We don't need to automate the choice for people.

I figured it is a pain to have people do that when 95% of current users
don't need it now anyway because they have been around for >30 days.

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Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:28 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: mailing list messages
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> > for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> > not appear?
> 
> I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I think the tips would be greatly enhanced if there was a 25% chance
that they included the output of the fortune program.

Ian

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06 Mar 2001 09:06:26 -0800
Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>
Re: mailing list messages
Bruce Momjian writes:

> I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> not appear?

I once again refer people to RFC 2369
<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html> about how to embed email list
management information into messages.  Secondly, I would also tolerate the
"monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
Bridge).  At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
'<dash><dash><space><newline>' sequence so that some mail readers can
strip them off in replies.

I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.

# for procmail users
:0 Bbf
| sed -n -e '/^---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------$/q' -e 'p'

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Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:18:06 +0100 (CET)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: mailing list messages

oh, let me add that as a TIP :)

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> Bruce Momjian writes:
>
> > I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> > for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> > not appear?
>
> I once again refer people to RFC 2369
> <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html> about how to embed email list
> management information into messages.  Secondly, I would also tolerate the
> "monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
> Bridge).  At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
> '<dash><dash><space><newline>' sequence so that some mail readers can
> strip them off in replies.
>
> I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.
>
> # for procmail users
> :0 Bbf
> | sed -n -e '/^---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------$/q' -e 'p'
>
> --
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>
>
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Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:06:29 -0400 (AST)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: mailing list messages
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Just a thought,
                                        Andrew.
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Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:47:45 +1300
Andrew McMillan <andrew@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: mailing list messages
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
> > for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
> > not appear?
>
> What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
> especially cute for -novice, I think.
>
> We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
> about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)




Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:56:32 -0400 (AST)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: mailing list messages