I just downloaded an tried mpsql (see
http://www.troubador.com/~keidav/index.html) and I have to say I like it.

It's like a graphical version of psql. In fact it is modelled after Oracle's
SQL Worksheet or similar products.

Now I wonder what's the correct way to handle this kind of software. Shall
we try to boundle it with our release? Or is it just a separete program for
us?

Sidenote to Oliver Elphick, I think we package this one for Debian, too.
What do you think?

Michael

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Fri, 29 May 1998 15:01:00 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Meskes <meskes@topsystem.de>
mpsql
On Fri, 29 May 1998, Michael Meskes wrote:

> I just downloaded an tried mpsql (see
> http://www.troubador.com/~keidav/index.html) and I have to say I like it.
> 
> It's like a graphical version of psql. In fact it is modelled after Oracle's
> SQL Worksheet or similar products.
> 
> Now I wonder what's the correct way to handle this kind of software. Shall
> we try to boundle it with our release? Or is it just a separete program for
> us?

	Its bundled as part of the CD distribution...

Marc G. Fournier                                
Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 


Fri, 29 May 1998 19:13:34 -0300 (ADT)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] mpsql
On Fri, 29 May 1998, Michael Meskes wrote:

> I just downloaded an tried mpsql (see
> http://www.troubador.com/~keidav/index.html) and I have to say I like it.

Wie geht's Michael,

I read Marc's reply - that mpsql is bundled with the CD (which I
eagerly await ;-)  I am wondering if mpmgr (the sibling application)
is also bundled?

Also - I have become reliant on Edmund Mergl's DBD-Pg (ver 0.69)
module for the Perl DBI interface.  (Using version 0.91)
Are these also bundled with the CD?  

Marc, can we not have links off the postgresql.org page to these
dandy items?  And could I appeal to the powers that be to include
these tools with the tarball?  I do expect that the reason mpsql
and mpmgr are not in the archive is due to their size but the DBI
driver and Edmund's great module are very lean.

BTW, my superiors have agreed that we will deploy PostgreSQL on
October 01-1998 when I bring our newest server online.
This represents the complete departure from our original model:
PROGRESS 7.3A09 on UnixWare (1.1).  We now use PosgreSQL 6.3.2
(ecpg 1.1, DBI::DBD-Pg) on Slackware 3.4.

We are very pleased.  The week of 15 June 1998 is PC Expo at the
Jacob Javitts Centre in lower Manhattan.  I will be tabling at this
event and expect to trumpet the changes in my shop made possible
by PostgreSQL (dot-org).

Cheers,
Tom


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Sat, 30 May 1998 05:05:34 -0400 (EDT)
Tom Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
Re: [HACKERS] mpsql
On Sat, 30 May 1998, Tom Good wrote:

> I read Marc's reply - that mpsql is bundled with the CD (which I
> eagerly await ;-)  I am wondering if mpmgr (the sibling application)
> is also bundled?

See http://www.postgresql.org/cd-dist.shtml for everything that is
currently bundled in...

I'm working on updating the CD image this weekend, which has held off on
some ppl having been ship'd theirs :(  

> Marc, can we not have links off the postgresql.org page to these
> dandy items?  And could I appeal to the powers that be to include
> these tools with the tarball?  I do expect that the reason mpsql
> and mpmgr are not in the archive is due to their size but the DBI
> driver and Edmund's great module are very lean.

	I can definitely say that none of these tools will be included in
the tarball...right now, that would add another 3+Meg to the distribution
:)

	If there is anything that I don't have listed at the above URL
(ie. that isn't bundled on the CD that you'd like to see), please let me
know.  And, of course, if anything at the above URL is out of date, again,
please let me know...some stuff is just impossible to keep up on :)


Marc G. Fournier                                
Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 


Sat, 30 May 1998 14:08:30 -0300 (ADT)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] mpsql
Tom Good writes:
> Wie geht's Michael,

Gut. Danke, Tom.

> I read Marc's reply - that mpsql is bundled with the CD (which I
> eagerly await ;-)  I am wondering if mpmgr (the sibling application)
> is also bundled?

mpmgr is not that useful right now. I think the author is looking for a
class library to program with. That is to say development is currently on
hold.

Michael

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Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:40:07 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Meskes <meskes@topsystem.de>
Re: [HACKERS] mpsql