Hi,

I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org

1. Netscape 3.04 totally unusable to browse postgres site - 
   I see only text of javascript
2. Lynx works better, but still when select "Info Central" I see nothing !

Also, don't forget ALT="" for inline images (not href's) - documents
will look much better in Lynx or browser with images disabled.

О©╫I understand that most users move touse  new browsers but it's good
tradition (not Microsoft) to support (if possible) old browsers.

	Regards,

		Oleg

_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83


Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:29:34 +0400 (MSD)
Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
postgres Web problem
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org

Try going to:  http://www.postgresql.org/index.html to make sure you're
not getting a mirror.  This is the first problem I've heard like you 
describe.  If all works well we'll need to determine which mirror that's
having problems.

Vince.

> 
> 1. Netscape 3.04 totally unusable to browse postgres site - 
>    I see only text of javascript
> 2. Lynx works better, but still when select "Info Central" I see nothing !
> 
> Also, don't forget ALT="" for inline images (not href's) - documents
> will look much better in Lynx or browser with images disabled.
> 
> �I understand that most users move touse  new browsers but it's good
> tradition (not Microsoft) to support (if possible) old browsers.
> 
> 	Regards,
> 
> 		Oleg
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
> Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
> phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
> 
> 
> 

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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:37:14 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:37:14 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
> To: Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
> Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org
> 
> Try going to:  http://www.postgresql.org/index.html to make sure you're
> not getting a mirror.  This is the first problem I've heard like you 
> describe.  If all works well we'll need to determine which mirror that's
> having problems.
> 
> Vince.
> 

Huh, sorry, this is my mirror :-) Original site works fine. Shame.
What do I need to configure ? http://www.sai.msu.su:8000/
But, just reloaded and everything looks ok. Weird.
No idea.

   Regards,
	Oleg


> > 
> > 1. Netscape 3.04 totally unusable to browse postgres site - 
> >    I see only text of javascript
> > 2. Lynx works better, but still when select "Info Central" I see nothing !
> > 
> > Also, don't forget ALT="" for inline images (not href's) - documents
> > will look much better in Lynx or browser with images disabled.
> > 
> > О©╫I understand that most users move touse  new browsers but it's good
> > tradition (not Microsoft) to support (if possible) old browsers.
> > 
> > 	Regards,
> > 
> > 		Oleg
> > 
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
> > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
> > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
> > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 

_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83


Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:56:36 +0400 (MSD)
Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:37:14 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
> > To: Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>
> > Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
> > 
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org
> > 
> > Try going to:  http://www.postgresql.org/index.html to make sure you're
> > not getting a mirror.  This is the first problem I've heard like you 
> > describe.  If all works well we'll need to determine which mirror that's
> > having problems.
> > 
> > Vince.
> > 
> 
> Huh, sorry, this is my mirror :-) Original site works fine. Shame.
> What do I need to configure ? http://www.sai.msu.su:8000/
> But, just reloaded and everything looks ok. Weird.
> No idea.

Seems ok from here.

Vince.
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:20:08 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem

On 26-Jul-99 Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org
> 
> 1. Netscape 3.04 totally unusable to browse postgres site - 
>    I see only text of javascript

   It's well known bug in NS 3.x. 
All 
  <script><!----------
   ......
  //------></script>

 need to be commented exactly like example above (ie without spaces and
 line breaks> and must be placed inside <HEAD> </HEAD>

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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:36:14 +0400 (MSD)
Dmitry Samersoff <dms@wplus.net>
RE: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
Using Netscape 4.07 from Win95. index.html is alright but I get some
garbage in the top left hand corner of the info central page (left of the
main elephant, above the frames tree). It seems OK with IE4.

http://www.postgresql.org/doxlist.html:
<!--- /* We dont
perform mouse
actions on IE3.x &
NS 2.x */ function
msOn() { } function

Ciao
 --Louis  <louis@bertrandtech.on.ca> 

Louis Bertrand       http://www.bertrandtech.on.ca
Bertrand Technical Services, Bowmanville, ON, Canada  

OpenBSD: Secure by default.  http://www.openbsd.org/

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org
> 
> Try going to:  http://www.postgresql.org/index.html to make sure you're
> not getting a mirror.  This is the first problem I've heard like you 
> describe.  If all works well we'll need to determine which mirror that's
> having problems.
> 
> Vince.
> 
> > 
> > 1. Netscape 3.04 totally unusable to browse postgres site - 
> >    I see only text of javascript
> > 2. Lynx works better, but still when select "Info Central" I see nothing !
> > 
> > Also, don't forget ALT="" for inline images (not href's) - documents
> > will look much better in Lynx or browser with images disabled.
> > 
> > �I understand that most users move touse  new browsers but it's good
> > tradition (not Microsoft) to support (if possible) old browsers.
> > 
> > 	Regards,
> > 
> > 		Oleg
> > 
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
> > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
> > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
> > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:36:52 +0000 (GMT)
Louis Bertrand <louis@bertrandtech.on.ca>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 09:37:14AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm a little bit confused with http://www.postgresql.org
> 
> Try going to:  http://www.postgresql.org/index.html to make sure you're
> not getting a mirror.  This is the first problem I've heard like you 
> describe.  If all works well we'll need to determine which mirror that's
> having problems.

As long as we're complaining about browsers...

Using NetPositive under BeOS I get the various buttons seperated and
skewed.  I'll look into it and see if I can figure out exactly what
is wrong, but there could be a strange table in there.


Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:38:34 -0700
Adam Haberlach <haberlaa@ricochet.net>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem

On 26-Jul-99 Louis Bertrand wrote:
> Using Netscape 4.07 from Win95. index.html is alright but I get some
> garbage in the top left hand corner of the info central page (left of the
> main elephant, above the frames tree). It seems OK with IE4.
> 
> http://www.postgresql.org/doxlist.html:
> <!--- /* We dont
> perform mouse
> actions on IE3.x &
> NS 2.x */ function
> msOn() { } function
> 
> Ciao
>  --Louis  <louis@bertrandtech.on.ca> 

Unfortunately, I can't find computer near around to install IE4 
and so I'm unable to fix coverpage.

 This problem, IMHO, waits for MS IEx for FreeBSD ;-)) or
somebody familar with MSIE.
 

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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:53:50 +0400 (MSD)
Dmitry Samersoff <dms@wplus.net>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
Louis Bertrand <louis@bertrandtech.on.ca> writes:
> Using Netscape 4.07 from Win95. index.html is alright but I get some
> garbage in the top left hand corner of the info central page (left of the
> main elephant, above the frames tree). It seems OK with IE4.

> <!--- /* We dont
> perform mouse
> actions on IE3.x &
> NS 2.x */ function
> msOn() { } function

Yeah, I've been seeing the same with Netscape 4.08 (HPUX build) for
some time... quoting problem, likely ...

			regards, tom lane

Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:01:01 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem 
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Louis Bertrand wrote:

> Using Netscape 4.07 from Win95. index.html is alright but I get some
> garbage in the top left hand corner of the info central page (left of the
> main elephant, above the frames tree). It seems OK with IE4.
> 
> http://www.postgresql.org/doxlist.html:
> <!--- /* We dont

Yeah, the <!--- is a comment, but the older netscapes showed it anyway
in some cases.  Is this the only place you see it?

Vince.
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Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

> > <!--- /* We dont
> > perform mouse
> > actions on IE3.x &
> > NS 2.x */ function
> > msOn() { } function
> 
> Yeah, I've been seeing the same with Netscape 4.08 (HPUX build) for
> some time... quoting problem, likely ...

Well, the HTML source for that FRAME is erroneous, as is normal on the
web these days, but it's not that.  My guess is you've turned off the
javascript misfeature, which, possibly combined with the HTML errors
and/or the no less than four comment conventions used in that little
snippet of code, is confusing Netscape.

Incidentally, in the RDBMS comparison chart (whose URL I can't quote,
because of the FRAME stuff), PostgreSQL is shown as lacking row level
locking.  Change to "supported" and add a footnote, someone?

-tih
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27 Jul 1999 07:43:58 +0200
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@Norway.EU.net>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
On 27 Jul 1999, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote:

> Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:
> 
> > > <!--- /* We dont
> > > perform mouse
> > > actions on IE3.x &
> > > NS 2.x */ function
> > > msOn() { } function
> > 
> > Yeah, I've been seeing the same with Netscape 4.08 (HPUX build) for
> > some time... quoting problem, likely ...
> 
> Well, the HTML source for that FRAME is erroneous, as is normal on the
> web these days, but it's not that.  My guess is you've turned off the
> javascript misfeature, which, possibly combined with the HTML errors
> and/or the no less than four comment conventions used in that little
> snippet of code, is confusing Netscape.
> 
> Incidentally, in the RDBMS comparison chart (whose URL I can't quote,
> because of the FRAME stuff), PostgreSQL is shown as lacking row level
> locking.  Change to "supported" and add a footnote, someone?

The comparison is still for 6.4.2, it needs to be updated.

Vince.
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:19:35 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@Norway.EU.net> writes:
> Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:
>> Yeah, I've been seeing the same with Netscape 4.08 (HPUX build) for
>> some time... quoting problem, likely ...

> Well, the HTML source for that FRAME is erroneous, as is normal on the
> web these days, but it's not that.  My guess is you've turned off the
> javascript misfeature,

Good guess.

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:18:45 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] postgres Web problem 