> Thomas, we now get:
>         select usesysid from pg_user  union select null ;
>         ERROR:  type id lookup of 0 failed
> which not good either.  Can you address this issue?

I'm almost back on-line (I hope) after massive hacker activity took out
the alumni pop server at Caltech. From looking through the hackers
mhonarc archive (hmm, don't much like that name "hackers" anymore; it's
cost us a _lot_ at work and taken me out of Postgres for more than a
month :( I see two issues for me to look at: the one above and the one
from Brett regarding a core dump from a mal-formed query. Will look at
both.

I have some additional patches in the parser area which continue the
type matching/coersion work from the last two months.

I've got patches to put 64-bit integers into the backend; they should
work for Alphas and at least some gcc-compiled 32-bit machines, but
we'll need beta testers to help get the configuration for our other
supported platforms. Once we have that for v6.4, we can also use this
type internally to implement additional types like numeric() and
decimal().

All mail sent to me from June 12 to now has been lost (I lost access to
the pop server and procmail went away, and so my .forward file reference
to procmail was broken and unfixable). It is not yet fixed, but should
be in a day or so. Talk to you then. In the meantime, I will be looking
at the mhonarc archives to keep up (great feature scrappy!)...

                          - Tom

Tue, 07 Jul 1998 15:15:39 +0000
"Thomas G. Lockhart" <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: [BUGS] Small bug in union
> > Thomas, we now get:
> >         select usesysid from pg_user  union select null ;
> >         ERROR:  type id lookup of 0 failed
> > which not good either.  Can you address this issue?
` > 
> I'm almost back on-line (I hope) after massive hacker activity took out

Yea, that is on my list too.  One of us will have it fixed for 6.4.  The
rest sounds good to me.  I am not particularly happy with 'hackers' name
either.


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Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:47:08 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [BUGS] Small bug in union

Aww.  Hackers is a great name.  Devel might be more appropriate, but
hackers isn't so bad.

On Tue, 7 July 1998, at 14:47:08, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Yea, that is on my list too.  One of us will have it fixed for 6.4.  The
> rest sounds good to me.  I am not particularly happy with 'hackers' name
> either.
> 
> 
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> 

Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:27:43 -0700 (PDT)
Brett McCormick <brett@work.chicken.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [BUGS] Small bug in union
Brett McCormick <brett@work.chicken.org> writes:
> Aww.  Hackers is a great name.  Devel might be more appropriate, but
> hackers isn't so bad.

My two cents: "hackers" != "crackers".

"Hacker" is an ancient and honorable term for a dedicated programmer,
and the PostgreSQL group ought to wear it proudly.

The sort of common thieves and vandals who attacked Caltech's system
don't deserve the name "hacker"; that crowd is trying to appropriate
a term they don't have the right to aspire to.  Bad enough that these
low-lifes cause us everyday grief, but to steal the hacking community's
self-label is an intolerable insult.  Don't give in to it.

BTW, if you somehow are not familiar with the history of the term
"hacker", you might care to visit the Jargon File
(try http://sagan.earthspace.net/jargon/), and/or Eric Raymond's
page about hacker history and culture
(http://tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.html).

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 07 Jul 1998 19:04:51 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [BUGS] Small bug in union 
> BTW, if you somehow are not familiar with the history of the term
> "hacker", you might care to visit the Jargon File
> (try http://sagan.earthspace.net/jargon/), and/or Eric Raymond's
> page about hacker history and culture
> (http://tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.html).

Actually, for some reason we used to use the term (circa mid '70s) to
refer to an unaccomplished, undisciplined coder. Sort of like a bad
golfer is called a hacker (you know, hacking and slashing at the ball).
I haven't found the usage in anything recent though, and the folks who
answered my mail at jargon hadn't heard of that usage either (boy, I
must have way too much time on my hands...). Still have trouble applying
the term to coders with skill :)

                       - Tom

Wed, 08 Jul 1998 01:39:23 +0000
"Thomas G. Lockhart" <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [BUGS] Small bug in union