Hi!

After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to 
get a status update on said port. 

The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked 
over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial 
success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now, 
the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners 
who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are 
stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.

Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from 
PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test 
scenarios.

So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the 
on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some 
hints how to get involved myself(!).

Questions would be:
- does it compile?
- on which compiler?
- which branch in CVS to use?
- what are the most needed open points?
- is anyone actively working on those?

... you get the idea.

Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)  
*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!

Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
	Joerg
-- 
Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:30:45 +0200
Joerg Hessdoerfer <Joerg.Hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com>
Win32 native port
Hi,

I think this would be interesting for many postgresql users.

The opensource database market is moving where quick at the moment, see
the sh*t with sapdb and mysql. So it would be very interesting if there
is a free alternative for windows and linux in the near future, because
some customers still use windows for some strange reason.

Like Joerg I would like to offer support if needed.

Thanks to everyone working for opensource.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

Alexander Schulz

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[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] Im Auftrag von Joerg
Hessdoerfer
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. September 2003 12:31
An: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Betreff: [HACKERS] Win32 native port


Hi!

After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really
like to 
get a status update on said port. 

The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was
talked 
over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with
initial 
success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp.
Now, 
the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it.
Questioners 
who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we
are 
stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.

Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from

PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale
test 
scenarios.

So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
the 
on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
some 
hints how to get involved myself(!).

Questions would be:
- does it compile?
- on which compiler?
- which branch in CVS to use?
- what are the most needed open points?
- is anyone actively working on those?

... you get the idea.

Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some
others)  
*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!

Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
	Joerg
-- 
Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


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Tue, 2 Sep 2003 17:09:14 +0200
"Alexander Schulz" <alexander.schulz@solutionary.de>
Re: Win32 native port
Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas T, 02.09.2003 kell 13:30:
> Hi!
> 
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to 
> get a status update on said port. 
> 
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked 
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial 
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now, 
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners 
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are 
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
> 
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from 
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test 
> scenarios.

...

> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)  
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!

Currently the whole PGSQL/Win32-for-v7.4-or-perhaps-7.5-or-8.0 saga does
indeed seem like a microsoftesqe ploy to scare off commercial
PGSQL/Win32 vendors and keep postgresql an UNIX-only thing ;)

-----------------
Hannu



Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:27:58 +0300
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee>
Re: Win32 native port

'k ... quick and dirty summary .. Bruce will probably add to it, but I
know he's busy ... he's so busy that some of the stuff that we put in
place for the Win32 hasn't even been announced yet :)

First, there was a branch created a couple of weeks ago: WIN32_DEV that
you can access via anon cvs ... this is where work in Win32 is going to
happen until its ready to be brought back into the mainstream, and is
based on code from "date: 2003/08/08 17:17:17" (or thereabouts) ...

Second, we created a list specifically for those wishing to dive into and
work on this: pgsql-hackers-win32 ...

Things are in beta right now, which means that most of the developers time
is being spent hardening up for v7.4, but that doesn't preclude anyone
from diving into that branch and submit'ng patches for it ... in fact, if
you are kind enough to put WIN32_DEV in teh subject on postings to
-patches, I'll happily merge in those patches to free up some of Bruce's
time ...

Right now, I'm the only one on the win32 list, so don't expect my heated
discussions from me ... I'm a Unix guy, don't even have a Win box setup
for compiling :)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:

> Hi!
>
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
> get a status update on said port.
>
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
> scenarios.
>
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
>
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
>
> ... you get the idea.
>
> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> 	Joerg
> --
> Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
> Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
> WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
>
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Alexander Schulz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think this would be interesting for many postgresql users.
>
> The opensource database market is moving where quick at the moment, see
> the sh*t with sapdb and mysql. So it would be very interesting if there
> is a free alternative for windows and linux in the near future, because
> some customers still use windows for some strange reason.
>
> Like Joerg I would like to offer support if needed.
>
> Thanks to everyone working for opensource.
>
> Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
>
> Alexander Schulz
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> solutionary GmbH, Reuchlinstrasse 10-11, 10553 Berlin,
> http://www.solutionary.de
> mail: alexander.schulz@solutionary.de
> tel 030.343462.40 / fax 030.343462.58
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] Im Auftrag von Joerg
> Hessdoerfer
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. September 2003 12:31
> An: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Betreff: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
>
>
> Hi!
>
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really
> like to
> get a status update on said port.
>
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was
> talked
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with
> initial
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp.
> Now,
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it.
> Questioners
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we
> are
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
>
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale
> test
> scenarios.
>
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
> the
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
> some
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
>
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
>
> ... you get the idea.
>
> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some
> others)
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> 	Joerg
> --
> Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
> Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
> WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
>
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Hannu Krosing wrote:

> Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas T, 02.09.2003 kell 13:30:
> > Hi!
> >
> > After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
> > get a status update on said port.
> >
> > The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
> > over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
> > success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
> > the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
> > who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
> > stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
> >
> > Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
> > PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
> > scenarios.
>
> ...
>
> > Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
> > *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Currently the whole PGSQL/Win32-for-v7.4-or-perhaps-7.5-or-8.0 saga does
> indeed seem like a microsoftesqe ploy to scare off commercial
> PGSQL/Win32 vendors and keep postgresql an UNIX-only thing ;)
>
> -----------------
> Hannu
>
>
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Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:12:48 -0300 (ADT)
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: Win32 native port
Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>'k ... quick and dirty summary .. Bruce will probably add to it, but I
>know he's busy ... he's so busy that some of the stuff that we put in
>place for the Win32 hasn't even been announced yet :)
>
>First, there was a branch created a couple of weeks ago: WIN32_DEV that
>you can access via anon cvs ... this is where work in Win32 is going to
>happen until its ready to be brought back into the mainstream, and is
>based on code from "date: 2003/08/08 17:17:17" (or thereabouts) ...
>
>Second, we created a list specifically for those wishing to dive into and
>work on this: pgsql-hackers-win32 ...
>
>Things are in beta right now, which means that most of the developers time
>is being spent hardening up for v7.4, but that doesn't preclude anyone
>from diving into that branch and submit'ng patches for it ... in fact, if
>you are kind enough to put WIN32_DEV in teh subject on postings to
>-patches, I'll happily merge in those patches to free up some of Bruce's
>time ...
>
>Right now, I'm the only one on the win32 list, so don't expect my heated
>discussions from me ... I'm a Unix guy, don't even have a Win box setup
>for compiling :)
>
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
>>get a status update on said port.
>>
>>The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
>>over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
>>success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
>>the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
>>who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
>>stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>>
>>Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
>>PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
>>scenarios.
>>
>>So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the
>>on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some
>>hints how to get involved myself(!).
>>
>>Questions would be:
>>- does it compile?
>>- on which compiler?
>>- which branch in CVS to use?
>>- what are the most needed open points?
>>- is anyone actively working on those?
>>
>>... you get the idea.
>>
>>Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
>>*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>>
>>Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
>>	Joerg
>>--
>>Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
>>Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
>>WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
>>
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>>    
>>
>
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Alexander Schulz wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I think this would be interesting for many postgresql users.
>>
>>The opensource database market is moving where quick at the moment, see
>>the sh*t with sapdb and mysql. So it would be very interesting if there
>>is a free alternative for windows and linux in the near future, because
>>some customers still use windows for some strange reason.
>>
>>Like Joerg I would like to offer support if needed.
>>
>>Thanks to everyone working for opensource.
>>
>>Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
>>
>>Alexander Schulz
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>solutionary GmbH, Reuchlinstrasse 10-11, 10553 Berlin,
>>http://www.solutionary.de
>>mail: alexander.schulz@solutionary.de
>>tel 030.343462.40 / fax 030.343462.58
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
>>[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] Im Auftrag von Joerg
>>Hessdoerfer
>>Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. September 2003 12:31
>>An: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
>>Betreff: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
>>
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really
>>like to
>>get a status update on said port.
>>
>>The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was
>>talked
>>over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with
>>initial
>>success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp.
>>Now,
>>the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it.
>>Questioners
>>who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we
>>are
>>stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>>
>>Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
>>
>>PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale
>>test
>>scenarios.
>>
>>So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
>>the
>>on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
>>some
>>hints how to get involved myself(!).
>>
>>Questions would be:
>>- does it compile?
>>- on which compiler?
>>- which branch in CVS to use?
>>- what are the most needed open points?
>>- is anyone actively working on those?
>>
>>... you get the idea.
>>
>>Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some
>>others)
>>*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>>
>>Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
>>	Joerg
>>--
>>Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
>>Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
>>WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
>>
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>
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Hannu Krosing wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas T, 02.09.2003 kell 13:30:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
>>>get a status update on said port.
>>>
>>>The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
>>>over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
>>>success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
>>>the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
>>>who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
>>>stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>>>
>>>Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
>>>PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
>>>scenarios.
>>>      
>>>
>>...
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
>>>*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>>>      
>>>
>>Currently the whole PGSQL/Win32-for-v7.4-or-perhaps-7.5-or-8.0 saga does
>>indeed seem like a microsoftesqe ploy to scare off commercial
>>PGSQL/Win32 vendors and keep postgresql an UNIX-only thing ;)
>>
>>-----------------
>>Hannu
>>
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

'k ... quick and dirty summary .. Bruce will probably add to it, but I
know he's busy ... he's so busy that some of the stuff that we put in
place for the Win32 hasn't even been announced yet :)

First, there was a branch created a couple of weeks ago: WIN32_DEV that
you can access via anon cvs ... this is where work in Win32 is going to
happen until its ready to be brought back into the mainstream, and is
based on code from "date: 2003/08/08 17:17:17" (or thereabouts) ...

Second, we created a list specifically for those wishing to dive into and
work on this: pgsql-hackers-win32 ...

Things are in beta right now, which means that most of the developers time
is being spent hardening up for v7.4, but that doesn't preclude anyone
from diving into that branch and submit'ng patches for it ... in fact, if
you are kind enough to put WIN32_DEV in teh subject on postings to
-patches, I'll happily merge in those patches to free up some of Bruce's
time ...

Right now, I'm the only one on the win32 list, so don't expect my heated
discussions from me ... I'm a Unix guy, don't even have a Win box setup
for compiling :)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:

  

Hi!

After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
get a status update on said port.

The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.

Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
scenarios.

So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the
on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some
hints how to get involved myself(!).

Questions would be:
- does it compile?
- on which compiler?
- which branch in CVS to use?
- what are the most needed open points?
- is anyone actively working on those?

... you get the idea.

Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!

Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
	Joerg
--
Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Alexander Schulz wrote:

  

Hi,

I think this would be interesting for many postgresql users.

The opensource database market is moving where quick at the moment, see
the sh*t with sapdb and mysql. So it would be very interesting if there
is a free alternative for windows and linux in the near future, because
some customers still use windows for some strange reason.

Like Joerg I would like to offer support if needed.

Thanks to everyone working for opensource.

Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen

Alexander Schulz

--------------------------------------------------------------------
solutionary GmbH, Reuchlinstrasse 10-11, 10553 Berlin,
http://www.solutionary.de
mail: alexander.schulz@solutionary.de
tel 030.343462.40 / fax 030.343462.58
--------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] Im Auftrag von Joerg
Hessdoerfer
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. September 2003 12:31
An: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Betreff: [HACKERS] Win32 native port


Hi!

After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really
like to
get a status update on said port.

The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was
talked
over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with
initial
success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp.
Now,
the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it.
Questioners
who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we
are
stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.

Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from

PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale
test
scenarios.

So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
the
on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
some
hints how to get involved myself(!).

Questions would be:
- does it compile?
- on which compiler?
- which branch in CVS to use?
- what are the most needed open points?
- is anyone actively working on those?

... you get the idea.

Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some
others)
*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!

Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
	Joerg
--
Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Hannu Krosing wrote:

  

Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas T, 02.09.2003 kell 13:30:
    

Hi!

After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
get a status update on said port.

The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.

Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
scenarios.
      

...

    

Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
*really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
      

Currently the whole PGSQL/Win32-for-v7.4-or-perhaps-7.5-or-8.0 saga does
indeed seem like a microsoftesqe ploy to scare off commercial
PGSQL/Win32 vendors and keep postgresql an UNIX-only thing ;)

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Hannu



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Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:17:07 -0700
"Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Win32 native port
So far as I'm aware Joerg, we didn't have enough time to get all the Win32
stuff done for 7.4, and it was felt (rightly so) that it wasn't worth
holding off on 7.4 to get it in.

At the moment, the main developers are doing nothing but fixing bugs in 7.4
as we are now in feature freeze.

Once 7.4 final has been released, work will continue on Win32, and I see no
reason (since there have been many offers of help) why it wouldn't be done
for 7.5.
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
the
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
some
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
>
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
>
> ... you get the idea.

I have no idea of the answers to these questions!  Bruce is your man for
them.

Chris


Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:40:34 +0800
"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>
Re: Win32 native port
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> So far as I'm aware Joerg, we didn't have enough time to get all the Win32
> stuff done for 7.4, and it was felt (rightly so) that it wasn't worth
> holding off on 7.4 to get it in.
> 
> At the moment, the main developers are doing nothing but fixing bugs in 7.4
> as we are now in feature freeze.
> 
> Once 7.4 final has been released, work will continue on Win32, and I see no
> reason (since there have been many offers of help) why it wouldn't be done
> for 7.5.
> > So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
> the
> > on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
> some
> > hints how to get involved myself(!).
> >
> > Questions would be:
> > - does it compile?
> > - on which compiler?
> > - which branch in CVS to use?
> > - what are the most needed open points?
> > - is anyone actively working on those?
> >
> > ... you get the idea.
> 
> I have no idea of the answers to these questions!  Bruce is your man for
> them.

This will all be on the web page, hopefully today.

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Wed, 3 Sep 2003 16:38:18 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Win32 native port

OK, I have created a Win32 project page that contains all relevant
information:

	http://momjian.postgresql.org/main/writings/pgsql/win32.html

I have CC'ed this to the new native win32 port mailing list as well.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to 
> get a status update on said port. 
> 
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked 
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial 
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now, 
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners 
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are 
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
> 
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from 
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test 
> scenarios.
> 
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the 
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some 
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
> 
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
> 
> ... you get the idea.
> 
> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)  
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
> 
> Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> 	Joerg
> -- 
> Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
> Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
> WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
> 
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Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:09:35 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Win32 native port


just made sure the -win32 list is added to archives as well ...

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

>
> OK, I have created a Win32 project page that contains all relevant
> information:
>
> 	http://momjian.postgresql.org/main/writings/pgsql/win32.html
>
> I have CC'ed this to the new native win32 port mailing list as well.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
> > get a status update on said port.
> >
> > The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
> > over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
> > success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
> > the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
> > who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
> > stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
> >
> > Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
> > PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
> > scenarios.
> >
> > So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the
> > on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some
> > hints how to get involved myself(!).
> >
> > Questions would be:
> > - does it compile?
> > - on which compiler?
> > - which branch in CVS to use?
> > - what are the most needed open points?
> > - is anyone actively working on those?
> >
> > ... you get the idea.
> >
> > Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
> > *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
> >
> > Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> > 	Joerg
> > --
> > Leading SW developer  - S.E.A GmbH
> > Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
> > WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com
> >
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Wed, 3 Sep 2003 22:24:35 -0300 (ADT)
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
Hi!

Thanks to all who have replied (privately or via the list), it seems sometimes 
it's just necessary to be a bit insistant!

That said, I'm positively surprised by what has been done already (especially 
Bruce and Marc, this is really a GoodThing to have the web page and the 
list). 
I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how the 
heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...), and then 
I'll go adventuring in the code.

Thanks again, all. Looking forward to seeing you on the -win32 list.

Greetings,
	Joerg
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Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:22:08 +0200
Joerg Hessdoerfer <Joerg.Hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com>
Re: Win32 native port
Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas N, 04.09.2003 kell 10:22:
> I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how the 
> heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...)

there is a precompiled bison in the MinGW filelist
http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml#hdr2

dunno about flex ;(

> , and then 
> I'll go adventuring in the code.

--------------
Hannu


Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:13:17 +0300
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee>
Re: Win32 native port
Hi,

On Thursday 04 September 2003 10:13, Hannu Krosing wrote:
>
> there is a precompiled bison in the MinGW filelist
> http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml#hdr2
>
> dunno about flex ;(
[...]
> --------------
> Hannu

Thanks, I should have seen it. Well, anyway, with bison installed flex 
compiles ootb.

Greetings,
	Joerg
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Mail: joerg.hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com
WWW:  http://www.sea-gmbh.com


Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:11:34 +0200
Joerg Hessdoerfer <Joerg.Hessdoerfer@sea-gmbh.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Thanks to all who have replied (privately or via the list), it seems sometimes 
> it's just necessary to be a bit insistant!
> 
> That said, I'm positively surprised by what has been done already (especially 
> Bruce and Marc, this is really a GoodThing to have the web page and the 
> list). 
> I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how the 
> heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...), and then 
> I'll go adventuring in the code.
> 
> Thanks again, all. Looking forward to seeing you on the -win32 list.

Uh, I should have mentioned that on the web page --- I will now.  I
normally mount the Unix file via Samba and run everthing from there so I
can run bison/flex and CVS from Unix, and just do the compiles via
Win32.

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Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:14:34 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Win32 native port
Joerg Hessdoerfer writes:

> I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how the
> heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...),

Use the Cygwin tools.

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Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:20:01 +0200 (CEST)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Win32 native port
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Thanks to all who have replied (privately or via the list), it seems sometimes 
> > it's just necessary to be a bit insistant!
> > 
> > That said, I'm positively surprised by what has been done already (especially 
> > Bruce and Marc, this is really a GoodThing to have the web page and the 
> > list). 
> > I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how the 
> > heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...), and then 
> > I'll go adventuring in the code.
> > 
> > Thanks again, all. Looking forward to seeing you on the -win32 list.
> 
> Uh, I should have mentioned that on the web page --- I will now.  I
> normally mount the Unix file via Samba and run everthing from there so I
> can run bison/flex and CVS from Unix, and just do the compiles via
> Win32.

I have added a Compiling section to the web page:

	http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/win32.html

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Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:13:37 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
On Thursday 04 September 2003 09:22, Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks to all who have replied (privately or via the list), it seems
> sometimes it's just necessary to be a bit insistant!
>
> That said, I'm positively surprised by what has been done already
> (especially Bruce and Marc, this is really a GoodThing to have the web page
> and the list).
> I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment (how
> the heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...), and
> then I'll go adventuring in the code.
>


See the page : http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml

	There are msys and mingw binary packages including bison and gettext.
If You have teouble with that, feel free to contact me (I have some experience 
with that concerning I have succesfully compile pgAdmin on MinGW.

Regards !

Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:48:41 +0200
Darko Prenosil <darko.prenosil@finteh.hr>
Re: Win32 native port
On Thursday 04 September 2003 19:20, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Joerg Hessdoerfer writes:
> > I'm currently in the process of setting up my development environment
> > (how the heck do I get bison/flex to compile under MingW/MSYS? Oh my...),
>
> Use the Cygwin tools.

There is no need for that, MinGW has bison and gettext packages.

Regards !

Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:50:42 +0200
Darko Prenosil <darko.prenosil@finteh.hr>
Re: Win32 native port