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Hi!
I've compiled and installed PostgreSQL v.6.5.2.
(I use SuSe Linux 6.2.). 
Now I want to replace it with v.6.5.3.
There is "make clean" statement in Makefile.
But where to find "make uninstall"?
Is PostgreSQL install only in /usr/local/pgsql
(I used default Dir) and it's enough to 
rm -f from that directory(?!).

(I would like to make PostgreSQL.RPM for SuSe 
Linux.that's why I have to know how to 
uninstall...)
Thanks for any help!
Adam(adam.walczykiewicz@multiuser.com.pl)




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Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:16:41 -0800
"Adam Walczykiewicz" <archiver@db.geocrawler.com>
Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Adam Walczykiewicz wrote:

> This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Adam Walczykiewicz" <adam.walczykiewicz@multiuser.com.pl>
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> 
> Hi!
> I've compiled and installed PostgreSQL v.6.5.2.
> (I use SuSe Linux 6.2.). 
> Now I want to replace it with v.6.5.3.
> There is "make clean" statement in Makefile.
> But where to find "make uninstall"?

One more reason to move to automake, ey?

> Is PostgreSQL install only in /usr/local/pgsql
> (I used default Dir) and it's enough to 
> rm -f from that directory(?!).

Yes.

> 
> (I would like to make PostgreSQL.RPM for SuSe 
> Linux.that's why I have to know how to 
> uninstall...)

I think you have a misconception about RPMs. Your easiest bet would be to
start at with the RedHat RPMs and adjust what needs adjusting.


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Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:38:17 +0100 (MET)
Peter Eisentraut <e99re41@DoCS.UU.SE>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!
Does the PostgreSQL project officially only support Red Hat - I sure would like to see SuSE supported and
mentioned instead of just Red hat.  I'd be happy to generate SuSE RPMs for distribution via the PostgreSQL
site.

I thought I saw some discussion about this issue earlier.

Who generates the SuSE rpms distributed with the SuSE release.  These are of no value to me because I wish
to use /usr/local/pgsql for PostgreSQL.

Steve


Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Adam Walczykiewicz wrote:
>
> > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Adam Walczykiewicz" <adam.walczykiewicz@multiuser.com.pl>
> > Be sure to reply to that address.
> >
> > Hi!
> > I've compiled and installed PostgreSQL v.6.5.2.
> > (I use SuSe Linux 6.2.).
> > Now I want to replace it with v.6.5.3.
> > There is "make clean" statement in Makefile.
> > But where to find "make uninstall"?
>
> One more reason to move to automake, ey?
>
> > Is PostgreSQL install only in /usr/local/pgsql
> > (I used default Dir) and it's enough to
> > rm -f from that directory(?!).
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > (I would like to make PostgreSQL.RPM for SuSe
> > Linux.that's why I have to know how to
> > uninstall...)
>
> I think you have a misconception about RPMs. Your easiest bet would be to
> start at with the RedHat RPMs and adjust what needs adjusting.
>
> --
> Peter Eisentraut                  Sernanders vaeg 10:115
> peter_e@gmx.net                   75262 Uppsala
> http://yi.org/peter-e/            Sweden
>
> ************


Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:20:30 -0800
Stephen Birch <sbirch@ironmountainsystems.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!
Hi Steve,

The PostgreSQL project is willing to support any os it
can. We have Redhat RPMS on our site, because someone
(Lamar Owen) took the time to do it, then submitted them.

You may do the same. Ideally we'd like to have a package/bin
for each os.

Jeff

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Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:57:52 -0400 (AST)
Jeff MacDonald <jeff@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!
Stephen Birch wrote:
  >Does the PostgreSQL project officially only support Red Hat - I sure would l
      >ike to see SuSE supported and
  >mentioned instead of just Red hat.  I'd be happy to generate SuSE RPMs for d
      >istribution via the PostgreSQL
  >site.
  >
  >I thought I saw some discussion about this issue earlier.
  >
  >Who generates the SuSE rpms distributed with the SuSE release.  These are of
      > no value to me because I wish
  >to use /usr/local/pgsql for PostgreSQL.
 
If you generate RPMs for SUSE, rather than just for your own use, you will
surely need to conform to their policy.  I should be most surprised if
that allowed their RPMs to use /usr/local, which should be for the local
administrator rather than for the distribution.

That is, of course, why Red Hat's RPMs and Debian's packages relocate
PostgreSQL into directories that conform to those distributions'
policies.

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Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:56:18 +0000
"Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!! 
Oliver Elphick wrote:
> 
> Stephen Birch wrote:
>   >Does the PostgreSQL project officially only support Red Hat - I sure would l
>       >ike to see SuSE supported and
>   >mentioned instead of just Red hat.  I'd be happy to generate SuSE RPMs for d
>       >istribution via the PostgreSQL
>   >site.
>   >
>   >I thought I saw some discussion about this issue earlier.
>   >
>   >Who generates the SuSE rpms distributed with the SuSE release.  These are of

SuSE does their own -- according to rpmfind.net, they've split things up
worse than RedHat ever did.  They also put things in different places
than RedHat does, which, of course, they are certainly free to do.

> If you generate RPMs for SUSE, rather than just for your own use, you will
> surely need to conform to their policy.  I should be most surprised if
> that allowed their RPMs to use /usr/local, which should be for the local
> administrator rather than for the distribution.
> 
> That is, of course, why Red Hat's RPMs and Debian's packages relocate
> PostgreSQL into directories that conform to those distributions'
> policies.

Thank you, Oliver, for explaining that.  I really wish that the various
Linux distributions could standardize some things -- it is really
aggravating as a packager of RPMS -- SuSE has one way and place to store
things, RedHat as another, Caldera has yet another.  Which is why I have
labeled the RPMS I have built as _RedHat_ -- that's what I've got, so
that's what I am able to support.

I just received documentation from a nice chap who has successfully
installed and gotten working the JDBC client in the RPM distribution --
man, I'm very grateful for documentation!

I know that there have been a couple of users who have gotten the RedHat
RPM's to be usable under SuSE -- I just need more information -- in
particular, where does SuSE like to put things?  What environment
variables and RPM macros are defined under SuSE during the build, so
that conditional logic can be put in the source RPM -- having a single
source RPM is a big plus, because then everybody can build from a common
knowledge base.

According to rpmfind.net, the SuSE RPM's are very different from the
RedHat ones -- which I regret.  However, I picked up the maintenance of
an existing RPM so that existing users wouldn't be drastically surprised
at the changes, rather than me building a whole new set of RPM's.

Feel free to look at the source RPM for RedHat, and look carefully in my
README.rpm as to package rationale.  Feel free to take what I've done
and modify it for SuSE.  And, if you're going to do the above, please
document it so that others can understand it.  I would like to see a
single RPM base that worked for all the RPM-based distributions -- sure
would make support easier!

--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:52:02 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!
Jeff MacDonald wrote:
> The PostgreSQL project is willing to support any os it
> can. We have Redhat RPMS on our site, because someone
> (Lamar Owen) took the time to do it, then submitted them.

Thanks, Jeff.

> You may do the same. Ideally we'd like to have a package/bin
> for each os.

If anyone wants to pick up RPM's for SuSE or Caldera (or any other
RPM-based distribution), I'll be perfectly happy to help them get
started.

I would like any other RPM's to be as close as possible to the RedHat
ones to simplify support, but that's not absolutely necessary.  I'll
also offer any of the spec file stuff and upgrading scripts to them to
expedite their efforts -- after all, I was able to take Oliver's Debian
upgrade scripts and modify them to work very nicely under RedHat without
a great deal of effort (once I understood them, that is).

The documentation of the packaging differences in the various
distributions would be very helpful to have on the PostgreSQL site --
I've put the RPM readme on the ftp site under bindist/RPM  (Jeff, if
SuSE and Caldera folks get this running, we might want to rename the
bindist/RPM dir to bindist/RedHat, as those RPM's and that documentation
is pretty RedHat-specific), and I'd like to see the Debian documentation
(simple docs -- where is PGDATA, what is the name and parameters of the
startup script, etc) placed on the PostgreSQL site as well -- Oliver has
already mentioned that the standard download site for the Debian
packages is the Debian distribution's site, so ftp.postgresql.org may
not need the .deb's online.  Just a thought.

Of course, those are just the Linux packages.  There are many other
systems that have package managers for which it would be useful to have
prebuilt binaries available for download.

I am bothered more than a little of the thought that the RPM-based linux
distributions are so different that a single RPM set can't work with all
of them equally well.  Of course, that can happen under open source --
the distributors are certainly free to do it their own way.

--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:18:08 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Uninstalling PostgreSQL ??!!