
I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those 
without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
have one scanned it can be arranged.

And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:12:37 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
New Globe
>
> I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> have one scanned it can be arranged.

    As  core  members,  Tom  Lane  and me should move up into the
    steering area, I think.

> And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!

    Did you succeed in rendering it?


Jan

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:47:11 +0100 (CET)
wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck)
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> >
> > I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> > let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> > without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> > have one scanned it can be arranged.
> 
>     As  core  members,  Tom  Lane  and me should move up into the
>     steering area, I think.

Doing it right now.


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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:11:28 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jan Wieck wrote:

> >
> > I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> > let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> > without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> > have one scanned it can be arranged.
> 
>     As  core  members,  Tom  Lane  and me should move up into the
>     steering area, I think.

I leave those decisions to Marc. :)

> > And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!
> 
>     Did you succeed in rendering it?

Yep.  Did it on hub.  Took (I think) 6 and a half hours.

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:15:22 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jan Wieck wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> > > let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> > > without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> > > have one scanned it can be arranged.
> > 
> >     As  core  members,  Tom  Lane  and me should move up into the
> >     steering area, I think.
> 
> I leave those decisions to Marc. :)
> 
> > > And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!
> > 
> >     Did you succeed in rendering it?
> 
> Yep.  Did it on hub.  Took (I think) 6 and a half hours.

That's it.  No new developers.  The globe takes too long to generate.  :-)

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:32:30 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
Jan Wieck wrote:
 
>     As  core  members,  Tom  Lane  and me should move up into the
>     steering area, I think.

I was wondering when you two would be promoted.  Congratulations.

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Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:58:17 -0500
Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> > Yep.  Did it on hub.  Took (I think) 6 and a half hours.
>
> That's it.  No new developers.  The globe takes too long to generate.  :-)

    Not  as  much as a problem you might think it is. The default
    make target is a  poor  quality  image,  rendering  aprox.  2
    minutes  on  my  333MHz  PII.  So adding/removing pins can be
    verified/tested quickly.

    Only rendering the final image in full quality is what pushes
    the CPU against the wall.


Jan

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:11:56 +0100 (CET)
wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck)
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> > > Yep.  Did it on hub.  Took (I think) 6 and a half hours.
> >
> > That's it.  No new developers.  The globe takes too long to generate.  :-)
> 
>     Not  as  much as a problem you might think it is. The default
>     make target is a  poor  quality  image,  rendering  aprox.  2
>     minutes  on  my  333MHz  PII.  So adding/removing pins can be
>     verified/tested quickly.
> 
>     Only rendering the final image in full quality is what pushes
>     the CPU against the wall.

That map is just too cool.

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:36:29 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> have one scanned it can be arranged.
> 
> And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!

How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)

Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:13:00 +1100
Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > 
> > I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> > let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> > without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> > have one scanned it can be arranged.
> > 
> > And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!
> 
> How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)

That's a good question.  We normally give "pins" out to people who have
contributed a code over a significant period of time.  For example,
Peter Eisentraut is almost ready for a pin.  We would normally wait for
his feature patches to be released, and then wait a few months to see if
he is still around.  We look for people who we feel are in this for the
long haul.

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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:48:28 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe

Yep those pop-up pictures on the globe are cool.

My initial reaction - I'm glad I've got a beard, because it looks to
be a pre-requisite for hacking on postgresql!!!


Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> > Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> > > let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those
> > > without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> > > have one scanned it can be arranged.
> > >
> > > And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!
> >
> > How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)
> 
> That's a good question.  We normally give "pins" out to people who have
> contributed a code over a significant period of time.  For example,
> Peter Eisentraut is almost ready for a pin.  We would normally wait for
> his feature patches to be released, and then wait a few months to see if
> he is still around.  We look for people who we feel are in this for the
> long haul.
> 
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Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:07:02 +1100
Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au> writes:
> Yep those pop-up pictures on the globe are cool.

> My initial reaction - I'm glad I've got a beard, because it looks to
> be a pre-requisite for hacking on postgresql!!!

I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
member without a beard ...

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 08 Feb 2000 01:47:31 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe 
> Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au> writes:
> > Yep those pop-up pictures on the globe are cool.
> 
> > My initial reaction - I'm glad I've got a beard, because it looks to
> > be a pre-requisite for hacking on postgresql!!!
> 
> I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
> member without a beard ...

But we are going to take care of that, right Tom?  ;-)

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:00:39 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
> member without a beard ...

It's only a matter of time...

                  - Thomas

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Tue, 08 Feb 2000 07:14:39 +0000
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
>> I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
>> member without a beard ...

> But we are going to take care of that, right Tom?  ;-)

Er ... will long hair do?

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 08 Feb 2000 02:43:40 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe 
> >> I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
> >> member without a beard ...
> 
> > But we are going to take care of that, right Tom?  ;-)
> 
> Er ... will long hair do?

Can you wrap it up around your chin?  :-)

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 03:09:06 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Tom Lane wrote:

> Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au> writes:
> > Yep those pop-up pictures on the globe are cool.
> 
> > My initial reaction - I'm glad I've got a beard, because it looks to
> > be a pre-requisite for hacking on postgresql!!!
> 
> I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
> member without a beard ...
> 
> 			regards, tom lane

So where's the photo?

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:09:44 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe 
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> > How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)
> 
> That's a good question.  We normally give "pins" out to people who have
> contributed a code over a significant period of time.  For example,
> Peter Eisentraut is almost ready for a pin.  We would normally wait for
> his feature patches to be released, and then wait a few months to see if
> he is still around.

Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
remove his pin yet ;)

Hopefully he won't be away from postgres for the full 6 year he'll spend in 
America.

>  We look for people who we feel are in this for the
> long haul.

-------------
Hannu

Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:40:13 +0200
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> > Chris Bitmead <chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au> writes:
> > > Yep those pop-up pictures on the globe are cool.
> > 
> > > My initial reaction - I'm glad I've got a beard, because it looks to
> > > be a pre-requisite for hacking on postgresql!!!
> > 
> > I was getting razzed on IRC the other day for being the only core
> > member without a beard ...
> > 
> > 			regards, tom lane
> 
> So where's the photo?

If anyone wants to postal mail me a photo, I will scan it in and send it
to Vince.  Postal address is in my signature.

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:14:25 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Hannu Krosing wrote:

> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > 
> > > How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)
> > 
> > That's a good question.  We normally give "pins" out to people who have
> > contributed a code over a significant period of time.  For example,
> > Peter Eisentraut is almost ready for a pin.  We would normally wait for
> > his feature patches to be released, and then wait a few months to see if
> > he is still around.
> 
> Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
> remove his pin yet ;)
> 
> Hopefully he won't be away from postgres for the full 6 year he'll spend in 
> America.

He's alive and well ... but has >500 email to scan through before he even
gets to this thread :)



Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:37 -0400 (AST)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:
> Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
> remove his pin yet ;)

Certainly not --- but it needs to be moved to San Francisco ...

> Hopefully he won't be away from postgres for the full 6 year he'll
> spend in America.

He's pretty busy at the moment with getting settled in, but I'm sure
he'll be participating again soon.

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:52:28 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe 
> Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:
> > Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
> > remove his pin yet ;)
> 
> Certainly not --- but it needs to be moved to San Francisco ...
> 
> > Hopefully he won't be away from postgres for the full 6 year he'll
> > spend in America.
> 
> He's pretty busy at the moment with getting settled in, but I'm sure
> he'll be participating again soon.

I hear he will be here for 3 years.

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:54:59 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> 
> > Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How much code do I have to contribute to get a marker on Sydney? :)
> > > 
> > > That's a good question.  We normally give "pins" out to people who have
> > > contributed a code over a significant period of time.  For example,
> > > Peter Eisentraut is almost ready for a pin.  We would normally wait for
> > > his feature patches to be released, and then wait a few months to see if
> > > he is still around.
> > 
> > Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
> > remove his pin yet ;)
> > 
> > Hopefully he won't be away from postgres for the full 6 year he'll spend in 
> > America.
> 
> He's alive and well ... but has >500 email to scan through before he even
> gets to this thread :)

Shouldn't take long, that's less than a days worth of mail for me!  But
it's no fun after a long weekend outa town :)

Vince.
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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:57:18 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Tom Lane wrote:

> Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:
> > Vadim seens to have disappeared from earth, I hope you are not going to 
> > remove his pin yet ;)
> 
> Certainly not --- but it needs to be moved to San Francisco ...

Did Vadim indicate that he wanted his pin moved?

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:22:43 -0500 (EST)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: [HACKERS] New Globe 
Yes, let me remind folks Vince still needs more pictures.

> 
> I have the new developer's globe online.  Please check your BIOs and
> let me know if there's anything that needs correcting.  For those 
> without pictures, don't be so shy.  Submit a picture - if you need to
> have one scanned it can be arranged.
> 
> And before I forget.. Good job on the globe, Jan!
> 
> Vince.
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> 
> 
> 
> ************
> 


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Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:01:31 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: New Globe