

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shridhar Daithankar 
> [mailto:shridhar_daithankar@persistent.co.in] 
> Sent: 17 September 2002 09:30
> To: Pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Cc: Pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PGXLOG variable worthwhile?
> 
> 
> On 17 Sep 2002 at 16:11, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> 
> But I disagree. History says that nobody can compete with 
> microsoft on 
> microsoft platform. Postgres will not be competing with 
> either SQL Server or 
> access. It would remain as toy database..

Like Oracle?

> Let's leave it. The main point to focus postgres on unix is 
> not only because 
> unix is proven/known as robust and scalable, but unix is much 
> more standard to 
> support across multiple OS. The amount with which windows 
> differs from unices 
> on API level, any serious efforts to make postgresql good 
> enough on windows 
> whould be a mammoth task.

Maybe, but it's pretty much there now. The beta Win32 native port has
been performing excellently in the tests I've been able to throw at it,
certainly better than the Cygwin port.

> I haven't tried either port of postgres on windows but I 
> would not bet on any 
> of them.

The thing I wouldn't bet on is not the quality of the code produced by
the developers here, but Windows. Yes, it runs great here at the moment,
and has done for a while now but there's no guarantee that a new release
won't have a nasty bug. But that applies to the SQL user as well though.
Or for that matter the user of *any* other OS...

> There are limits as what postgresql can do on windows and 
> probably postgresql 
> development team can't do much about many of them..

The only real issue afaik with the current beta is that you can only run
one instance on a single server. That is the case with SQL Server as
well of course.

> No offense to anybody.. just some opinions..
> 

Likewise.

Regards, Dave.

Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:48:19 +0100
"Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>
Re: PGXLOG variable worthwhile?
On 17 Sep 2002 at 9:48, Dave Page wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shridhar Daithankar 
> > [mailto:shridhar_daithankar@persistent.co.in] 
> > Sent: 17 September 2002 09:30
> > To: Pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> > Cc: Pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PGXLOG variable worthwhile?
> > 
> > 
> > On 17 Sep 2002 at 16:11, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > 
> > But I disagree. History says that nobody can compete with 
> > microsoft on 
> > microsoft platform. Postgres will not be competing with 
> > either SQL Server or 
> > access. It would remain as toy database..
> 
> Like Oracle?

Oracle is a different story. It's has money but still from what I see around, 
oracle on windows is nowhere in league of oracle on unix..

> Maybe, but it's pretty much there now. The beta Win32 native port has
> been performing excellently in the tests I've been able to throw at it,
> certainly better than the Cygwin port.

That's a real good news..

> The thing I wouldn't bet on is not the quality of the code produced by
> the developers here, but Windows. Yes, it runs great here at the moment,

Exactly my thoughts. Problems with windows are more troublesome because nobody 
can do a thing about it..

> and has done for a while now but there's no guarantee that a new release
> won't have a nasty bug. But that applies to the SQL user as well though.
> Or for that matter the user of *any* other OS...

OK. Very fine. The issue remains two folds..hope I stay with facts

1)Postgres native port on windows will not be same as standard PG CVS head 
because it has come later. This phase lag may cause some troubles, technically 
and/or on expectations from users side.

2)Most importantly, if postgres native ports needs some windows specific 
tweaking, standard PG wouldn't be able to accommodate it being a unix tree now. 
I think Tom and others does not want this situation, which is very correct.

2) is more important here. Either we have branches in postgres with most code 
common if possible or some makefile hackery if large part of code is not 
common..

I would say 7.4 may be a good candidate for merge(Or is it already done. 
Haven't checked out CVS lately..) The native windows stuff will be out of it's 
beta by then as well..

HTH

Bye
 Shridhar

--
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrasewas 
"Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"(By iialan@www.linux.org.uk, Alan 
Cox)


Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:40:54 +0530
"Shridhar Daithankar" <shridhar_daithankar@persistent.co.in>
Re: [HACKERS] PGXLOG variable worthwhile?