Announce: First public release of PgSQL Version 1.0
===================================================

PgSQL v1.0 has been released.  This is the first public release of PgSQL.
It is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql.

PgSQL is a package of two (2) modules that provide a Python DB-API 2.0
compliant interface to PostgreSQL databases.  The first module, libpq,
exports the PostgreSQL C API to Python.  This module is written in C and
can be compiled into Python or can be dynamically loaded on demand.  The
second module, PgSQL, provides the DB-API 2.0 compliant interface and
support for various PostgreSQL data types, such as INT8, NUMERIC, MONEY,
BOOL, ARRAYS, etc.  This module is written in Python and works with
PostgreSQL 6.5.2 or later and Python 1.5.2 or later.

PostgreSQL is a sophisticated Object-Relational DBMS, supporting almost all
SQL constructs, including sub-selects, transactions, and user-defined types
and functions. It is the most advanced open-source database available
anywhere More information about PostgreSQL can be found at the PostgreSQL
home page at http://www.postgresql.org.

Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming lang-
uage.  It combines remarkable power with very clear syntax.  It has
modules, classes, exceptions, very high level dynamic data types, and
dynamic typing.  There are interfaces to many system calls and libraries,
as well as to various windowing systems (X11, Motif, Tk, Mac, MFC).  New
builtin modules are easily written in C or C++.  Python is also usable as
an extension language for applications that need a programmable interface. 
Python is copyrighted but freely usable and distributable, even for
commercial use.  More information about Python can be found on the Python
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Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:47:42 -0400
"Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org>
Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant interface to
	PostgreSQL
Billy G. Allie writes:

> PgSQL v1.0 has been released.  This is the first public release of PgSQL.
> It is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql.

Sounds interesting, but isn't "pgsql" an extremely unfortunate choice of
name, given that it's already used as an abbreviation for "PostgreSQL"?

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Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:27:21 +0200 (CEST)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: [INTERFACES] Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to  PostgreSQL
I need to know how this is different than our current python interface,
PyGreSQL.

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> Announce: First public release of PgSQL Version 1.0
> ===================================================
> 
> PgSQL v1.0 has been released.  This is the first public release of PgSQL.
> It is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql.
> 
> PgSQL is a package of two (2) modules that provide a Python DB-API 2.0
> compliant interface to PostgreSQL databases.  The first module, libpq,
> exports the PostgreSQL C API to Python.  This module is written in C and
> can be compiled into Python or can be dynamically loaded on demand.  The
> second module, PgSQL, provides the DB-API 2.0 compliant interface and
> support for various PostgreSQL data types, such as INT8, NUMERIC, MONEY,
> BOOL, ARRAYS, etc.  This module is written in Python and works with
> PostgreSQL 6.5.2 or later and Python 1.5.2 or later.
> 
> PostgreSQL is a sophisticated Object-Relational DBMS, supporting almost all
> SQL constructs, including sub-selects, transactions, and user-defined types
> and functions. It is the most advanced open-source database available
> anywhere More information about PostgreSQL can be found at the PostgreSQL
> home page at http://www.postgresql.org.
> 
> Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming lang-
> uage.  It combines remarkable power with very clear syntax.  It has
> modules, classes, exceptions, very high level dynamic data types, and
> dynamic typing.  There are interfaces to many system calls and libraries,
> as well as to various windowing systems (X11, Motif, Tk, Mac, MFC).  New
> builtin modules are easily written in C or C++.  Python is also usable as
> an extension language for applications that need a programmable interface. 
> Python is copyrighted but freely usable and distributable, even for
> commercial use.  More information about Python can be found on the Python
> home page at http://www.python.org.
> 
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Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:17:35 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant interface
	to  PostgreSQL
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> I need to know how this is different than our current python interface,
> PyGreSQL.

Is this a product of pgsql.com?

Vince.

> 
> -- Start of PGP signed section.
> > Announce: First public release of PgSQL Version 1.0
> > ===================================================
> > 
> > PgSQL v1.0 has been released.  This is the first public release of PgSQL.
> > It is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql.
> > 
> > PgSQL is a package of two (2) modules that provide a Python DB-API 2.0
> > compliant interface to PostgreSQL databases.  The first module, libpq,
> > exports the PostgreSQL C API to Python.  This module is written in C and
> > can be compiled into Python or can be dynamically loaded on demand.  The
> > second module, PgSQL, provides the DB-API 2.0 compliant interface and
> > support for various PostgreSQL data types, such as INT8, NUMERIC, MONEY,
> > BOOL, ARRAYS, etc.  This module is written in Python and works with
> > PostgreSQL 6.5.2 or later and Python 1.5.2 or later.
> > 
> > PostgreSQL is a sophisticated Object-Relational DBMS, supporting almost all
> > SQL constructs, including sub-selects, transactions, and user-defined types
> > and functions. It is the most advanced open-source database available
> > anywhere More information about PostgreSQL can be found at the PostgreSQL
> > home page at http://www.postgresql.org.
> > 
> > Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming lang-
> > uage.  It combines remarkable power with very clear syntax.  It has
> > modules, classes, exceptions, very high level dynamic data types, and
> > dynamic typing.  There are interfaces to many system calls and libraries,
> > as well as to various windowing systems (X11, Motif, Tk, Mac, MFC).  New
> > builtin modules are easily written in C or C++.  Python is also usable as
> > an extension language for applications that need a programmable interface. 
> > Python is copyrighted but freely usable and distributable, even for
> > commercial use.  More information about Python can be found on the Python
> > home page at http://www.python.org.
> > 
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> 
> 
> 

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Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:29:33 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to  PostgreSQL
Nope, neigher PyGreSQL nor ""PGSQL"" are products of
Pgsql.com (aka PostgreSQL Inc)On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> > I need to know how this is different than our current python interface,
> > PyGreSQL.
> 
> Is this a product of pgsql.com?
> 
> Vince.
> 

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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:58:05 -0300 (ADT)
Jeff MacDonald <jeff@pgsql.com>
Re: Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to  PostgreSQL
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Jeff MacDonald wrote:

> Nope, neigher PyGreSQL nor ""PGSQL"" are products of
> Pgsql.com (aka PostgreSQL Inc)On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

I knew PyGreSQL wasn't but PgSQL appeared a bit misleading.  Thanks
for clearing that up.   I guess on the website I should call it
PgSQL - NA 

Vince.


> 
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > 
> > > I need to know how this is different than our current python interface,
> > > PyGreSQL.
> > 
> > Is this a product of pgsql.com?
> > 
> > Vince.
> > 
> 
> Jeff MacDonald,
> 
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:47:33 -0400 (EDT)
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Re: Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to  PostgreSQL
Bruce Momjian writes:

> I need to know how this is different than our current python interface,
> PyGreSQL.

> > PgSQL is a package of two (2) modules that provide a Python DB-API 2.0
> > compliant interface to PostgreSQL databases.

DB-API is the standard database interface for Python.  Kind of like
DBD/DBI for Perl.

The existing one is hand-crafted, kind of like the Pg Perl module.

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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:54:07 +0200 (CEST)
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: [INTERFACES] Re: Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API
	2.0 compliant interface to  PostgreSQL
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Billy G. Allie writes:
> 
> > PgSQL v1.0 has been released.  This is the first public release of PgSQL.
> > It is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgsql.
> 
> Sounds interesting, but isn't "pgsql" an extremely unfortunate choice of
> name, given that it's already used as an abbreviation for "PostgreSQL"?
> 
> -- 
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> 

PgSQL is the name of the module you import in Python to access a PostgreSQL
database from Python using the DB-API 2.0.  The project name on SourceForge
is "Python Interface to PostgreSQL".  Of course, it there is too much heart
burn with the modules name, I can change it.
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:45:43 -0400
"Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org>
Re: [INTERFACES] Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to PostgreSQL
"Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org> writes:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> Sounds interesting, but isn't "pgsql" an extremely unfortunate choice of
>> name, given that it's already used as an abbreviation for "PostgreSQL"?

> PgSQL is the name of the module you import in Python to access a PostgreSQL
> database from Python using the DB-API 2.0.  The project name on SourceForge
> is "Python Interface to PostgreSQL".  Of course, it there is too much heart
> burn with the modules name, I can change it.

FWIW, my initial reaction was the same as Peter's: that name is certain
to cause confusion.  I don't want to try to force you to change it, but
I think it's not a good choice.

Don't have a better alternative to offer offhand, however.

			regards, tom lane

Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:06:40 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [INTERFACES] Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to PostgreSQL
Tom Lane wrote:
> "Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org> writes:
> > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> Sounds interesting, but isn't "pgsql" an extremely unfortunate choice of
> >> name, given that it's already used as an abbreviation for "PostgreSQL"?
> 
> > PgSQL is the name of the module you import in Python to access a PostgreSQL
> > database from Python using the DB-API 2.0.  The project name on SourceForge
> > is "Python Interface to PostgreSQL".  Of course, it there is too much heart
> > burn with the modules name, I can change it.
> 
> FWIW, my initial reaction was the same as Peter's: that name is certain
> to cause confusion.  I don't want to try to force you to change it, but
> I think it's not a good choice.
> 
> Don't have a better alternative to offer offhand, however.
> 
> 			regards, tom lane

I couldn't think of a better alternative, either.  That's why the module
name is PgSQL.  Of course, seeing 'import PgSQL' in the python code seems
to imply loading code to access PostgreSQL.  It's kind of self-documenting,
don'y you think? :-)


I am, however, open to suggestions to a better alternative if one can be
offered.


I am, however, open to suggestions to a better alternative if one can be
offered.
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:42:42 -0400
"Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org>
Re: [INTERFACES] Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to PostgreSQL
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Billy G. Allie wrote:

> Tom Lane wrote:
> > "Billy G. Allie" <Bill.Allie@mug.org> writes:
> > > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > >> Sounds interesting, but isn't "pgsql" an extremely unfortunate choice of
> > >> name, given that it's already used as an abbreviation for "PostgreSQL"?
> > 
> > > PgSQL is the name of the module you import in Python to access a PostgreSQL
> > > database from Python using the DB-API 2.0.  The project name on SourceForge
> > > is "Python Interface to PostgreSQL".  Of course, it there is too much heart
> > > burn with the modules name, I can change it.
> > 
> > FWIW, my initial reaction was the same as Peter's: that name is certain
> > to cause confusion.  I don't want to try to force you to change it, but
> > I think it's not a good choice.
> > 
> > Don't have a better alternative to offer offhand, however.
> > 
> > 			regards, tom lane
> 
> I couldn't think of a better alternative, either.  That's why the module
> name is PgSQL.  Of course, seeing 'import PgSQL' in the python code seems
> to imply loading code to access PostgreSQL.  It's kind of self-documenting,
> don'y you think? :-)

D'Arcy's is PyGreSQL ... 
> 
> 
> I am, however, open to suggestions to a better alternative if one can be
> offered.
> 
> 
> I am, however, open to suggestions to a better alternative if one can be
> offered.
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Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:58:08 -0300 (ADT)
The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [INTERFACES] Announcing PgSQL - a Python DB-API 2.0 compliant
	interface to PostgreSQL