For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are 
nested transactions.  While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows 
Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job 
programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature I can 
genuinely use in my daily (maybe weekly??? :-) life.

While a focus on things that make postgresql more market acceptable are 
important, the things that make it more feature complete to me as a user 
are the things I'd gladly wait an extra month or two for.  

But I'm not programming any of the code, so I'm just sayin'...


Tue, 4 May 2004 07:40:18 -0600 (MDT)
"scott.marlowe" <scott.marlowe@ihs.com>
The features I'm waiting for.
scott.marlowe wrote:
> For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are 
> nested transactions.  While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows 
> Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job 
> programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature I can 
> genuinely use in my daily (maybe weekly??? :-) life.
> 
> While a focus on things that make postgresql more market acceptable are 
> important, the things that make it more feature complete to me as a user 
> are the things I'd gladly wait an extra month or two for.  
> 
> But I'm not programming any of the code, so I'm just sayin'...

I'm sure everybody has their own favorite feature. But I can say quite 
confidently that the upcoming release contains the most number of highly 
anticipated features ever. Nested transaction, 2-phase commit, Windows 
port... I mean these are all major stuffs. They are paving the way of 
deployments of Postgres in new areas and applications. Plus don't forget 
all the other sweet goodies like autovacuum and PITR.

But the next release could also be the buggies version ever, due to the 
number of these new features. :-)

-- 
dave

Tue, 04 May 2004 22:11:22 +0700
David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com>
Re: The features I'm waiting for.
On Tue, 4 May 2004, David Garamond wrote:

> scott.marlowe wrote:
> > For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are 
> > nested transactions.  While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows 
> > Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job 
> > programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature I can 
> > genuinely use in my daily (maybe weekly??? :-) life.
> > 
> > While a focus on things that make postgresql more market acceptable are 
> > important, the things that make it more feature complete to me as a user 
> > are the things I'd gladly wait an extra month or two for.  
> > 
> > But I'm not programming any of the code, so I'm just sayin'...
> 
> I'm sure everybody has their own favorite feature. But I can say quite 
> confidently that the upcoming release contains the most number of highly 
> anticipated features ever. Nested transaction, 2-phase commit, Windows 
> port... I mean these are all major stuffs. They are paving the way of 
> deployments of Postgres in new areas and applications. Plus don't forget 
> all the other sweet goodies like autovacuum and PITR.
> 
> But the next release could also be the buggies version ever, due to the 
> number of these new features. :-)

Agreed.  My only real point was that userland features are the reason I 
upgrade.  Simple stuff like the inclusion of regex in the substring 
function in version 7.3 or 7.4 was awesome.  It was small and simple, and 
made my life MUCH easier.  

And while I might not be hacking the code, I'm quite willing to be a beta 
tester.  :-0  

So, thanks to all the hackers, for doing such a great job.


Tue, 4 May 2004 09:19:17 -0600 (MDT)
"scott.marlowe" <scott.marlowe@ihs.com>
Re: The features I'm waiting for.
David Garamond wrote:

> scott.marlowe wrote:
> 
> I'm sure everybody has their own favorite feature. But I can say quite 
> confidently that the upcoming release contains the most number of highly 
> anticipated features ever. Nested transaction, 2-phase commit, Windows 
> port... I mean these are all major stuffs. They are paving the way of 
> deployments of Postgres in new areas and applications. Plus don't forget 
> all the other sweet goodies like autovacuum and PITR.
> 
> But the next release could also be the buggies version ever, due to the 
> number of these new features. :-)

If you randomly flipped 20% of the bits in the postgres binary you'd 
not find it to be more buggy than the Postgres95/early 6.x series...

Mike Mascari



Tue, 04 May 2004 11:48:31 -0400
Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
Re: The features I'm waiting for.
David Garamond wrote:
> scott.marlowe wrote:
> > For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are 
> > nested transactions.  While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows 
> > Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job 
> > programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature I can 
> > genuinely use in my daily (maybe weekly??? :-) life.
> > 
> > While a focus on things that make postgresql more market acceptable are 
> > important, the things that make it more feature complete to me as a user 
> > are the things I'd gladly wait an extra month or two for.  
> > 
> > But I'm not programming any of the code, so I'm just sayin'...
> 
> I'm sure everybody has their own favorite feature. But I can say quite 
> confidently that the upcoming release contains the most number of highly 
> anticipated features ever. Nested transaction, 2-phase commit, Windows 
> port... I mean these are all major stuffs. They are paving the way of 
> deployments of Postgres in new areas and applications. Plus don't forget 
> all the other sweet goodies like autovacuum and PITR.
> 
> But the next release could also be the buggies version ever, due to the 
> number of these new features. :-)

The point is that if we stay to the June 1 feature freeze, you will not
have all those features in 7.5, only a few of them.

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Tue, 4 May 2004 11:50:35 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: The features I'm waiting for.
Bruce Momjian wrote:

> David Garamond wrote:
> 
>>scott.marlowe wrote:
>>
>>>For me, the only features I'm likely to use in the upcoming releases are 
>>>nested transactions.  While PITR is a great selling point, and the Windows 
>>>Port is something I do look forward to, having to do half my job 
>>>programming windows boxes, nested transactions are a feature I can 
>>>genuinely use in my daily (maybe weekly??? :-) life.
>>>
>>>While a focus on things that make postgresql more market acceptable are 
>>>important, the things that make it more feature complete to me as a user 
>>>are the things I'd gladly wait an extra month or two for.  
>>>
>>>But I'm not programming any of the code, so I'm just sayin'...
>>
>>I'm sure everybody has their own favorite feature. But I can say quite 
>>confidently that the upcoming release contains the most number of highly 
>>anticipated features ever. Nested transaction, 2-phase commit, Windows 
>>port... I mean these are all major stuffs. They are paving the way of 
>>deployments of Postgres in new areas and applications. Plus don't forget 
>>all the other sweet goodies like autovacuum and PITR.
>>
>>But the next release could also be the buggies version ever, due to the 
>>number of these new features. :-)
> 
> 
> The point is that if we stay to the June 1 feature freeze, you will not
> have all those features in 7.5, only a few of them.

Am I wrong or if the 7.5 will have the 2-phase commit we will see pop up
finally robust tools in order to have postgresql in cluster ( mirror, 
fault tollerance, load balancer, ... ) ?

I'm looking forward to these tools indeed.


Regards
Gaetano Mendola




Wed, 05 May 2004 18:44:16 +0200
Gaetano Mendola <mendola@bigfoot.com>
Re: The features I'm waiting for.