... while talking to sss.pgh.pa.us.:

>>>>>> MAIL From:<david+cert@blue-labs.org>
>>>      
>>>
<<< 550 5.7.1 Probable spam from 68.9.71.221 refused - see http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php?68.9.71.221
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.

I don't feel like paying some Big Company just so I can relay mail through them when I can do my company's own mail on my own networks.  Big Company will get blacklisted soon enough for [inadvertently] allowing a spammer to send mail through them.

Please don't punish the victim until they're proven guilty.

David
p.s. There isn't any contact address on the above URL for the requested updates.




Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:10:47 -0400
David Ford <david+cert@blue-labs.org>
ATTN: Tom Lane
David Ford <david+cert@blue-labs.org> writes:
> Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.

David, let me explain this in words of one syllable: I am currently
rejecting upwards of 2000 spam messages per day.  If I did not have
extremely stringent filters in place, email would be completely
useless to me.

Advice suggesting that I weaken my filters will be ignored with as much
grace as I can muster, which on most days is not a lot.

This is what comes of having several well-publicized email addresses :-(

			regards, tom lane

Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:44:10 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: ATTN: Tom Lane 






Tom Lane wrote:

David Ford <david+cert@blue-labs.org> writes:
  

Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.
    


David, let me explain this in words of one syllable: I am currently
rejecting upwards of 2000 spam messages per day.  If I did not have
extremely stringent filters in place, email would be completely
useless to me.

Advice suggesting that I weaken my filters will be ignored with as much
grace as I can muster, which on most days is not a lot.

This is what comes of having several well-publicized email addresses :-(

I sympathize with your pain.   However, I've found that the five-ten-sg.com
list is ofter overly aggressive.  There are many other RBL's that are not
as aggressive and used in combination provide very good results.   Also,
you could even try SpamCop's RBL, if your so inclined.

I could not post from my work address to any of the lists strictly because
of the five-ten-sg.com RBL.  They blocked everything from BellSouth's IP
allocation blocks.   They only way around it is to beg them to allow you
a static IP and the ask to have that IP unbanned from the RBL.   It's a lot
of work.

RBL's are good, but I think the one that blocked David Ford and myself  is
perhaps a little too strong.

Just my two cents.

Thomas




Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:27:41 -0500
Thomas Swan <tswan@idigx.com>
Re: ATTN: Tom Lane
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 02:10, David Ford wrote:
> ... while talking to sss.pgh.pa.us.:
> 
> >>>>>> MAIL From:<david+cert@blue-labs.org>
> >>>      
> >>>
> <<< 550 5.7.1 Probable spam from 68.9.71.221 refused - see http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php?68.9.71.221
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> 
> Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.
> 
> I don't feel like paying some Big Company just so I can relay mail through them when I can do my company's own mail on my own networks.  Big Company will get blacklisted soon enough for [inadvertently] allowing a spammer to send mail through them.
> 
> Please don't punish the victim until they're proven guilty.
> 
> David
> p.s. There isn't any contact address on the above URL for the requested updates.

You can manually decode an e-mail address from the first line on that
site :

You can always send email to blackhole3 at five-ten-sg.com even if your mail server is listed here. 

I got my home ADSL un-blacklisted after a few emails to them when they
agreed that my IP is actually static.

---------------
Hannu


14 Jun 2002 11:24:39 +0200
Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee>
Re: ATTN: Tom Lane