The core committee has agreed that this bug
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-08/msg00639.php
is serious enough that we'd better push out update releases for
all the affected versions.  I want to hold off a day or so and see
if a couple of currently-open bug reports can be resolved, but it's
going to happen soon.  If anyone has any back-patches that they've
been thinking of getting in, now would be a good time.

BTW, I realized this morning that 7.1.* also has a version of the bug,
because it too writes and flushes an XLOG COMMIT record before it does
anything about marking the transaction complete in pg_log.  So it
likewise would have the problem that a checkpoint occurring just after
the COMMIT might not include the pg_log update, leading to possible loss
of the pg_log update in event of crash and replay from that checkpoint.

Core's feeling is that we will not try to backpatch 7.1.  The patch used
for the later versions will not apply to 7.1 because it doesn't have
LWLocks, so some nontrivial effort would be needed to develop a fix.
Given the age of that release, and the other serious problems it has
(the transaction-ID-wraparound problem for one), it's time to officially
state that it is broken and unsupportable.

Comments anyone?  Backpatches for other bugs?

			regards, tom lane

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:08:10 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 06:08:10PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> The core committee has agreed that this bug
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-08/msg00639.php is
> serious enough that we'd better push out update releases for all the
> affected versions.  I want to hold off a day or so and see if a
> couple of currently-open bug reports can be resolved, but it's going
> to happen soon.  If anyone has any back-patches that they've been
> thinking of getting in, now would be a good time.

Are the packaged versions (OK, the Dea^WRed Hat RPMs) going out at the
same time?

On a slightly related topic, I'm thinking I should only put the
latest, greatest on the bt server, but if others think otherwise, I'd
be happy to put up more.

Cheers,
D
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Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:54:53 -0700
David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5
David Fetter <david@fetter.org> writes:
> Are the packaged versions (OK, the Dea^WRed Hat RPMs) going out at the
> same time?

No, but I'll be working on those as soon as the tarballs are wrapped.

> On a slightly related topic, I'm thinking I should only put the
> latest, greatest on the bt server, but if others think otherwise, I'd
> be happy to put up more.

The 8.0 beta and the latest stable (7.4.3, soon 7.4.4) would seem
sufficient to me, but maybe you should ask this on -general.

			regards, tom lane

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:57:58 -0400
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5 
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 09:57:58PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> David Fetter <david@fetter.org> writes:

> > I'm thinking I should only put the latest, greatest on the bt
> > server, but if others think otherwise, I'd be happy to put up
> > more.
> 
> The 8.0 beta and the latest stable (7.4.3, soon 7.4.4) would seem
> sufficient to me, but maybe you should ask this on -general.

Oh voices of -general, what versions, in your opinion, should be on
http://bt.postgresql.org/ ?  My first thought is that it's there for
the traffic spikes of new releases/updates, but if you vox populi
calls for more than that, I am happy to oblige.

Cheers,
D
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Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:07:07 -0700
David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5
The pg_dump fix in 8.0 that stops the destruction of existing users in 
the target database via "DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (..." 
would be great!

regards

Mark

Tom Lane wrote:

>Comments anyone?  Backpatches for other bugs?
>
>  
>

Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:22:22 +1200
Mark Kirkwood <markir@coretech.co.nz>
Re: Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5
Sorry - I meant pg_dump*all* rather than pg_dump.

Mark Kirkwood wrote:

> The pg_dump fix in 8.0 that stops the destruction of existing users in 
> the target database via "DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (..." 
> would be great!
>
> regards
>
> Mark
>
> Tom Lane wrote:
>
>> Comments anyone?  Backpatches for other bugs?
>>
>>  
>>
>

Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:23:54 +1200
Mark Kirkwood <markir@coretech.co.nz>
Re: Coming soon: PG 7.4.4, 7.3.7, 7.2.5