Hi Michael,

I know all about the story of PostgreSQL for NetWare.

I will tell you the story now:
First I want to introduce myself:
I'm a Novell DeveloperNet SysOp and i'm working with the database
team and the C Library team at Novell in Provo/Utah.

The story starts last year in may at Novell's BrainShare in
Nice/France.
I've spoken with several people about the open source community and
what's missing on NetWare and how this can be combined with Novells
Directory Service to manage all this stuff. During this time only
Apache 1.3
and Tomcat 3.2 was available as open source on NetWare.

The Database area was a totally vacuum and the need for an alternative
for Oracle was huge.

The result was that I've started to analyze a lot of databases and
after some
discussions i've decided to port PostgreSQL because of the features
and
stability. Nearly at the same time Novell was working on a new C
Library
to offer a C/C++ environment that is as much POSIX/ANSI C/BSD/UNIX98
compliant as possible. The first step was to enhance this C Library to
have
all the functionality I need for PostgreSQL. In November i've been in
Utah
to discuss the open source database PostgreSQL and how it's going. The
result was that there is a small team now working on MySQL and
PostgreSQL.

I'm the man who drives PostgreSQL and another guy, R.Lyon drives
MySQL.
There are several other people supporting us.

Additonal PHP4, mod_perl, JBoss, Motif and several other open source
initiatives are in the works at Novell. We are all working together to
have a
unique solution. Everything is planned to be pushed back to the open
source
community. I think that's a great benefit for all these projects.

In march at Novell's Brainshare in Salt Lake City some of these
projects have
been demonstrated and nearly everything was functional. Now there is
much work in stability, performance and in directory integration
together
with one unified management tool across all of these open source and
the commercial projects. At the end all open source projects will be
stress
tested in Novell's superlab, the biggest testlab on earth. It's
possible to
test on hundreds of different servers and thousands of client
machines.

The first Beta's of PostgreSQL for NetWare have been sent out last
week
to some selected customers and next week a first beta refresh will be
sent
out.

It is planned to ship all these open source projects during this
summer,
and the new management tool in the 1st half next year.
Apache2 was the first in that line.

Ulrich Neumann


>>> Michael Meskes <meskes@postgresql.org> 12.06.2002 16:49:11 >>>
Hi,

there were several people at my talk asking if PostgreSQL is available
on Novell Netware. I know I read about someone working on this, but
didn't follow the thread at all since I do not have any Netware
servers.

Does anyone out there know more?

Thanks in advance.

Michael
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Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:08:38 +0200
"Ulrich Neumann" <U_Neumann@gne.de>
Antw: PostgreSQL and Novell Netware

I am going to take all of your patches, make one mega-patch, then send
it to you for review.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ulrich Neumann wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I know all about the story of PostgreSQL for NetWare.
> 
> I will tell you the story now:
> First I want to introduce myself:
> I'm a Novell DeveloperNet SysOp and i'm working with the database
> team and the C Library team at Novell in Provo/Utah.
> 
> The story starts last year in may at Novell's BrainShare in
> Nice/France.
> I've spoken with several people about the open source community and
> what's missing on NetWare and how this can be combined with Novells
> Directory Service to manage all this stuff. During this time only
> Apache 1.3
> and Tomcat 3.2 was available as open source on NetWare.
> 
> The Database area was a totally vacuum and the need for an alternative
> for Oracle was huge.
> 
> The result was that I've started to analyze a lot of databases and
> after some
> discussions i've decided to port PostgreSQL because of the features
> and
> stability. Nearly at the same time Novell was working on a new C
> Library
> to offer a C/C++ environment that is as much POSIX/ANSI C/BSD/UNIX98
> compliant as possible. The first step was to enhance this C Library to
> have
> all the functionality I need for PostgreSQL. In November i've been in
> Utah
> to discuss the open source database PostgreSQL and how it's going. The
> result was that there is a small team now working on MySQL and
> PostgreSQL.
> 
> I'm the man who drives PostgreSQL and another guy, R.Lyon drives
> MySQL.
> There are several other people supporting us.
> 
> Additonal PHP4, mod_perl, JBoss, Motif and several other open source
> initiatives are in the works at Novell. We are all working together to
> have a
> unique solution. Everything is planned to be pushed back to the open
> source
> community. I think that's a great benefit for all these projects.
> 
> In march at Novell's Brainshare in Salt Lake City some of these
> projects have
> been demonstrated and nearly everything was functional. Now there is
> much work in stability, performance and in directory integration
> together
> with one unified management tool across all of these open source and
> the commercial projects. At the end all open source projects will be
> stress
> tested in Novell's superlab, the biggest testlab on earth. It's
> possible to
> test on hundreds of different servers and thousands of client
> machines.
> 
> The first Beta's of PostgreSQL for NetWare have been sent out last
> week
> to some selected customers and next week a first beta refresh will be
> sent
> out.
> 
> It is planned to ship all these open source projects during this
> summer,
> and the new management tool in the 1st half next year.
> Apache2 was the first in that line.
> 
> Ulrich Neumann
> 
> 
> >>> Michael Meskes <meskes@postgresql.org> 12.06.2002 16:49:11 >>>
> Hi,
> 
> there were several people at my talk asking if PostgreSQL is available
> on Novell Netware. I know I read about someone working on this, but
> didn't follow the thread at all since I do not have any Netware
> servers.
> 
> Does anyone out there know more?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Michael
> -- 
> Michael Meskes
> Michael@Fam-Meskes.De 
> Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire!
> Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
> 
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Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:59:56 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: Antw: PostgreSQL and Novell Netware