Topic: Evolution
Quote: I am new to this. It seems that many posters do not take you seriously. This seems unfair. You must be very frustrated after putting so much intelligence and effort into gathering this information.
Response: He is not taken seriously because he gathers information only with his Morton\'s demon in full control.\nsupersport ploughs around the intarwebs, looking for anything he can crib and misrepresent. He\'s gotten really good at cribbing and misrepresenting, but that doesn\'t mean that he can\'t be refuted... or hasn\'t been refuted... or hasn\'t been refuted repeatedly... or hasn\'t been refuted repeatedly on numerous discussion boards... If supersport spent half as much effort reading and understanding what bona fide scientists tell him as he spends looking for "support" and figuring out how to spin it, we wouldn\'t be having this conversation.\nLet\'s put it this way. Suppose you have a friend named Fred who is in your section of organic chemistry. One day your friend comes in and says, "Dude! The prof\'s off his rocker! I have proof that he\'s lying to us!" You ask Fred for some supporting evidence, and he disappears for a while.\nA while later, you see Fred again. "Dude," he says, "I told you. Check this out. Turns out that there are ways besides the so-called \'Grignard reaction\' to lengthen carbon chains. Wittig! It\'s all a ruse! He\'s been telling us about this, but that\'s not what actually happens! (And man, don\'t get me started on keto-enol tautomerization; that one\'s a real doozy!)" You stare at him blankly, point him to the appropriate scientific papers, even invite him into the lab to run the experiment himself, but all he does is tout his own brilliance and avoid every piece of evidence you provide.\nFinally, Fred comes into lecture and tells you about his amazing theory that will totally overthrow all of organic chemistry. It turns out that sulfur can catenate, too, he says. This completely destroys the scientific conspiracy that organic chemistry is really about carbon compounds. In fact, Fred ends up approaching the professor -- someone who has extensive education, training, and experience in the field -- and tells the professor outright that Fred has uncovered the scientists\' evil plan to corrupt mankind and indoctrinate poor little college students into "Grignardism."\nIncredibly, Fred doesn\'t seem to notice that other students, the professor, graduate assistants, scientific articles, and common sense all contradict him. When presented with these problems, Fred pooh-poohs them away as a fabricated part of the conspiratorial establishment, as science as a whole has only one purpose: promoting Grignardism.\nFred repeats this every week, with the same argument every time, dressed up just a little bit different. Every week, dozens upon dozens of refutations pour in, inundating little Fred with questions he can\'t answer and observations he can\'t explain. When even Fred -- the practiced little spinster that he is -- can no longer pretend in the face of such overwhelming evidence, he disappears again... Only to start anew the next week.\nHow long until you no longer take Fred seriously?\nDo you think I\'ve made up this whole scenario? Head over to IIDB and search for threads started by supersport. My story is a sadly accurate representation, although it is much too short to instill in you the understanding of the full depth of supersport\'s... "behavior."\nIIDB has numerous practicing scientists and generally well-educated people; they thrashed sport to pieces every single time. He finally made himself a nuisance and repeatedly broke forum rules so that he\'d be banned and could claim that moderators kicked him off because they couldn\'t debate him.\n
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