The production practices associated with the loudness war have been condemned by recording industry professionals including Alan Parsons and Geoff Emerick, along with mastering engineers Doug Sax, Stephen Marcussen, and Bob Katz. Musician Bob Dylan has also condemned the practice, saying, "You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like—static." Music critics have complained about excessive compression. The Rick Rubin produced albums "Californication" and "Death Magnetic" have been criticised for loudness by "The Guardian"; the latter was also criticised by "Audioholics". "Stylus Magazine" said the former suffered from so much digital clipping that "even non-audiophile consumers complained about it".