During a question and answer session at CommVEx v11 (July 18, 2015), Jack's son, Leonard Tramiel, finally revealed to the crowd his version of what really transpired between Jack and Irving Gould during the 1984 Consumer Electronics Show resulting in Tramiel leaving Commodore: On January 13, 1984 during a meeting with Irving, Jack told Irving that treating the assets of the company as his own and using them for personal use was wrong. He said to Irving, "you can't do that while I'm still president" to which Irving responded by saying "Goodbye". Three days after the show, Jack announced to the public that he was resigning from the company.