Others have suggested that some people who feel lonely desire the nurturing community and social services that support people with HIV/AIDS. Other research suggests that semen contains a wealth of meaning for those who engage in bugchasing and gift giving fantasies and practices and that "HIV infected semen containing the men's DNA are a way of overcoming the sense of isolation that results from 'cold, sterile', protected sex". Others suffering from depression and suicidal ideation report fantasising or engaging in the practice as a form of suicide.