Mental health journalist and author John McManamy argues that although psychiatrists do not explicitly deal with the condition of apathy, it is a psychological problem for some depressed people, in which they get a sense that "nothing matters", the "lack of will to go on and the inability to care about the consequences". He describes depressed people who "...cannot seem to make do anything", who "can't complete anything", and who do not "feel any excitement about seeing loved ones". He acknowledges that the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" does not discuss apathy.