In 2004, the illusionist Yuri Gorny, in an interview with the magazine "Science and Life," said that the famous journalist and diplomat AE Bovin, who visited Vanga, noted that she ""absolutely did not guess anything in his past, or in the present, or, as it soon turned out, in the near future"." Gorny himself recalled that he offered his acquaintance a well-known journalist, whose last name he did not name ""for reasons that will become clear a little later,"" to check the perspicacity of Vanga and her possible informants. To do this, he suggested to the journalist, whom the hospitable hosts, who helped him arrange a meeting with Vanga, invited to the sauna, “"before visiting the bath, seal a part of the scrotum with a plaster. He recommended not to answer questions, if any. Just make it clear that he does not want to talk on this topic."” When a meeting with Vanga took place a week later, she, as Gorny notes, “"described quite accurately what happened to my acquaintance in the past, which, however, is not very surprising: he is a famous person, he would have been able to learn about his life in a week and an ordinary astrologer."” Regarding Vanga's prediction of the future, according to Gorny, the following happened:“You will be fine at work,” Vanga said approximately, “but personal relationships will not develop very well. Unfortunately, serious problems with the reproductive organs will not allow you to create a full-fledged family." My friend later told me what efforts he had to keep from laughing.