Around 2005, he started the band Potbelly, with a younger singer named Milky. Although, they only released the single "Crash, Crash, Crash" on August 22, 2005. In 2006 he collaborated with Fake? (fellow Luna Sea member Inoran's band) for songs on their album "Songs From Beelzebub". Also in 2006, he became a support drummer for Dead End front-man Morrie's project, Creature Creature, and teamed up with La'cryma Christi drummer Levin for several exhibitions in celebration of the 60th anniversary of Pearl Drums.