In September 2007, it was announced that she would leave 5 Live after 13 years; on Monday 8 October 2007 she joined BBC Radio 4's "Woman's Hour" programme as the second principal presenter, succeeding Martha Kearney in the role. She created a minor stir in February 2008 in an interview in "The Guardian", describing "Woman's Hour" as too middle-class and fixated on cooking. She returned briefly to BBC Radio 5 Live in November 2011 as a stand-in presenter on the "Double Take" programme.