Some years later, Wozniak was working at Hewlett-Packard (HP) running simulations of chip designs and logic layout for calculators. HP made major inroads in the minicomputer market with their HP 2000 series machines running a custom timesharing version of BASIC. For approximately $100,000, one could build up a reasonably equipped machine that could support between 16 and 32 users running BASIC programs. While expensive, it was still a fraction of the cost of the mainframe machines and, for heavy users, less than the timesharing services. HP followed this with the HP 9830, a desktop-sized machine for $10,000 () that also ran BASIC, which Wozniak had access to.