The next day, Crown attorney Kelly began his cross-examination of Aravena. Kelly noted that Aravena, who stood 6'2, weighed 280 pounds and was very muscular, did not try to help Flanz despite the way that Kellestine kept pistol-whipping and insulting him for being Jewish. The boxer and MMA fighter Aravena replied: "So I can get smacked around?", causing the courtroom to laugh at him. When Kelly produced a photograph taken in early April 2006 of a topless Kellestine-who was born in 1949 and had a scrawny build-leading him to ask: "How many of your opponents looked like that?" Aravena replied: "One was old, but he wasn't that old". When Kelly pointed out the contradiction between Aravena's statement that he believed the "no surrender crew" were going home after their patches had been "pulled" vs. his statement he was afraid for his life, Aravena looked very confused for some time, before answering that he had never thought about that before About Aravena's statement he was too afraid to stop the massacre, Kelly noted that Aravena was doing guard duty outside of Kellestine's barn and that: "In the dark, is not twenty yards like twenty miles?" Aravena replied "Yeah", which led Kelly to ask why Aravena did not flee into the darkness to seek help. Aravena answered that he didn't know, saying he was a very stupid man who had much trouble when it came to thinking.