Some have linked the name "Armenia" with the Early Bronze Age state of "Armani (Armanum, Armi)" or the Late Bronze Age state of "Arme (Shupria)". These connections are inconclusive as it is not known what languages were spoken in these kingdoms. Additionally, while it is agreed that Arme was located to the immediate west of Lake Van (and therefore in the greater Armenia region), the location of the older site of Armani is a matter of debate. Some modern researchers have placed it in the same general area as Arme, near modern Samsat, and have suggested it was populated, at least partially, by an early Indo-European-speaking people. It has also been speculated that the land of "Ermenen" (located in or near "Minni"), mentioned by the Egyptian pharaoh Thutmose III in 1446 BCE, could be a reference to Armenia.