Robert DeLeo had wanted to work with him on a song for the album, he invited them over to do so. The result of their meeting was a track called "A Better Place", and a twelve-hour jam session. Patrick felt so strongly about the music that he put the fourth Filter album on hold, despite his record label urging him to continue, in order to start a new band with the DeLeo brothers. Ray Luzier was called to audition after the DeLeo brothers were impressed with Ray's sound check at a show. Luzier joined the band later after a successful auditioning.