According to various reports, the group fought over the new direction. Wilson recalled that the group "liked new music but they said it was too arty. I said, 'No, it is not!" Marilyn said: "When Brian was writing "Pet Sounds", it was difficult for the guys to understand what he was going through emotionally and what he wanted to create. ... they didn't feel what he was going through and what direction he was trying to go in." Tony Asher remembered: "All those guys in the band, certainly Al, Dennis, and Mike, were constantly saying, 'What the fuck do these words mean?' or 'This isn't our kind of shit!' Brian had comebacks, though. He'd say, 'Oh, you guys can't hack this.'... But I remember thinking that those were tense sessions."