We thought that the most dynamic social scene at that point – this was the late ’60s – was California, and so that’s where we went. But there was not much in San Diego at that time. It was primarily a Navy town. There was a fledgling unit of the University of California ... it was an open playing field, so the possibility of doing things was very great. ... Partch was in San Diego. That wasn’t a reason to go there, but it was certainly an attraction after we got there.