Scott Shiflett left the band in 2004, replaced by Omen Starr. The band released its first full-length album, Western Ballads in 2004. After touring, Lascala and Starr departed, and Scott then returned to band in 2005. 2008 saw the release of their second full-length album, Harmony And Dissidence. As the band were without a drummer at the time, Foo Fighters bandmate Dave Grohl offered Chris his services, along with bandmate Taylor Hawkins. When touring for the album Scott was busy with a reuniting Face To Face, so Charlie Ellis was recruited to play bass, and Mighty Mighty Bosstones member Joe Sirois took over on drums.