Zerby, and other Family members, had their locations isolated and their names kept secret with pseudonyms. Rodriguez, according to Munumel, spent years trying to find Zerby and his half-sister, Techi, who he wanted to take out of The Family. In summer of 2004, Rodriguez left Munumel. Later, they both separated, but according to her they continued to talk "every day". Rodriguez traveled to San Diego, where he met Martin in person. Rodriguez had staked out a branch of the Family Care Foundation, according to Martin, who also said Rodriguez noticed Smith served on board the charity, in addition to being a member of Elderhaven, a nursing home his grandparents ran, in Tucson, Arizona. According to a statement made later by Munumel, Rodriguez also heard Zerby and Techi were going to visit his grandparents there at Elderhaven, during Christmas of 2003. He stayed with his aunt, Rosemary Kanspedos, and her family in Tucson for a month. He also received a job as an electrician. His boss, electrical contractor Mark Flynn, and his wife, said he never gave him details about his prior life.