Nutter also thought it peculiar that Israel Swan would simply give Packer his rifle and wish him well before pressing on with the four other men with only one rifle as a means of shooting game. Furthermore, where was Packer's Colt revolver that he had been carrying when he left both Provo and Ouray's camp? Where did his drinking money come from when Packer was flat broke when he joined the party? Nutter also noted that Packer had in his possession a skinning knife that had belonged to Frank "Butcher" Miller. Nutter asked Packer how he came to have it, with Packer stating that Miller had stuck it in a tree and walked off without it. Having had doubts about Packer's story from the beginning, Nutter was all but convinced that something nefarious had happened. In addition to his suspicions, Nutter had come to view Packer in the same negative light as Loutsenhizer, based on his performance and overall character leading up to their arrival at Ouray's camp. Accusations were flung and words were exchanged, with Nutter threatening to hang Packer. Nutter later stated, regarding Packer, “He was sulky, obstinate and quarrelsome. He was a petty thief willing to take things that did not belong to him, whether of any value or not." The two men were separated, and Packer made plans to move on.