Women had a role in grunge bands such as L7, Lunachicks, Dickless, 7 Year Bitch, The Gits, Courtney Love's band Hole (and Love's other 1990s groups), and Babes in Toyland, the latter an "... all-female Minneapolis band", and grunge was closely "linked with Riot Grrrl", an underground feminist punk movement. "VH1" writer Dan Tucker stated that L7 was an "... all-female grunge band emanated from the fertile L.A. underground scene and [which had strong ties with ... Black Flag and could match any male band in attitude and volume." Bam Bam , who formed in 1984, was fronted by an African American Women named Tina Bell, breaking the norm of what was predominantly a 'White' dominated scene.