While in college, I started working for an anti-censorship paper, "The Independent". After I left college I started working there full time. So, I never had a normal job where I had to be interviewed and wear a suit and tie. I became their managing editor and also did freelance stuff for "Mad" magazine. But "Mad" was aimed at a teenage audience, and there was no satirical magazine for adults. So it was a kind of organic evolution toward "The Realist", which was essentially a combination of satire and alternative journalism.