In the fall of 1981 Desjardens attempted to establish the band on a permanent basis. Following an X show on September 2, 1981, Desjardins was introduced to guitarist Don Kirk by John Doe and Exene Cervenka. Kirk had played the instrument for 16 years but had never previously been part of a band. Other members were soon added, including Robyn Jameson (bass) and Steve Berlin (saxophones). The group's fifth member, drummer Chris Wahl, was found through a bulletin board advertisement in an area record store called Vinyl Fetish.