Later that year, Abrahamson, head of SDIO, called a 6September 1985 meeting to review the status of the programs. Roy Woodruff was there to present LLNL's status. Teller arrived in the middle of the meeting and said Reagan had agreed that $100million should be turned over to Excalibur. Without questioning this, Abrahamson then assigned $100million to him, taking it from other programs. As one official noted, "Do you really want to challenge someone who says he's talked to the President? Do you really want to risk your status by asking Reagan if that's what he really said?"