With this deviation from Plato's doctrine is connected another which takes a wider range. As the ultimate "principle", Speusippus would not, with Plato, recognise the "Good", but, with others (who doubtless were also Platonists), going back to the older "Theologi", maintained that the "principles" of the universe were to be set down as causes of the good and perfect, but were not the good and perfect itself, which must rather be regarded as the result of generated existence, or development, just as the seeds of plants and animals are not the fully formed plants or animals themselves.