These awkward exchanges became an object of parody. An episode of "SCTV" aired in 1981 featured a sketch of "The Freddie de Cordova Show". The segment was almost an exact copy of the "Tonight Show", except the host's desk was empty; de Cordova conducted all of his interviews from his usual perch off-camera. On the real program in 1988, as a takeoff on the installation of lights in Wrigley Field, Carson ceremonially installed a light on the edge of the set so that de Cordova could finally be seen.