In 1927, McCay attended a dinner in his honor in New York. After a considerable amount of drinking, McCay was introduced by animator Max Fleischer. McCay gave the gathered group of animators some technical advice, but when he felt the audience was not giving him attention, he berated his audience, saying, "Animation is an art. That is how I conceived it. But as I see, what you fellows have done with it, is making it into a trade. Not an art, but a trade. "Bad Luck!"" That September he appeared on the radio at WNAC, and on November 2 he was interviewed by Frank Craven for "The Evening Journal"s "Woman's Hour". During both appearances he complained about the state of contemporary animation.